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We are. Talking about North Jersey
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sports.com original multimedia series talking all things
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baseball across North Jersey. This is season 11, episode 9,
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the grand finale I. Am maybe?
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Maybe the grand finale. We could call it the Father's
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Day edition then, just to be safe.
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That's it, Father's Day. I am Corey Doviak, being joined
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by my illustrious panel of North Jersey baseball insiders, a man
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who is very hard to pin down to a season finale edition.
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He is Joey. Official function Sotera.
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What's going on, Joe? What do you mean official
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function? You got a official function?
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Hey Joe, you want to do a show now?
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I got a graduation, Joe, you want to do a show now?
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I got a retirement. Joe, you want to do a show?
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First of all, I gotta, I gotta say that is totally unfair, bro,
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because you, you, you flat out told me.
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I told you I had, I had. No, no, it wasn't graduation.
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First of all. It was our scholarship show at
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at at DuMont High School. OK.
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Then, then it was also the the next time we tried to do it, my
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son had a game and I will not, I will not let anything interfere
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with my son having a game. And then I don't know what it
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was, but you were not available within that time period as well.
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And then how many times did I reach out to you and go, hey,
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Cora, Shell. Yes, absolutely.
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Shell. Yeah, absolutely.
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Right as the season winds down. And, you know, we got a lot
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going on. Well, we got a lot going on.
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What a lot to go, You know, You got a lot of things going on.
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I got a lot of things going on. I'm trying.
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To get out. For dinners and and and all.
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These what's this all about the NJS, the NJSIAA has a lot going
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on because if the business world, if listen, if the
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business world ran, if the business world ran like the
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NJSNJSIAA, nobody would be in business anymore.
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Because you explain to me, explain to me, explain to me how
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you do what they did with Bosco and CBA.
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Explain that to me. There's not even there's.
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It is just beyond belief that that what?
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Go ahead, go ahead. No.
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No, I just. I just want to set it up in case
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anybody doesn't know the situation.
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That might be no. Everybody knows the situation,
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everybody. Well Don Bosco prep and
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Christian Brothers Academy were to play in non public a state
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final and the game was scheduled at a county field which had a
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10:00 curfew which and they scheduled the game for a 7:00
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but. In fairness, in fairness, I
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don't think it was 10. OK.
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I don't think it was 10. I think regardless, listen,
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regardless of whether we we know it's 10.
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Game of a double header and you can't do that with baseball
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when? It's an open Indian.
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There's there's no, there's no scoreboard that says the game is
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over in 10 minutes. And not only that, but the
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coaches weren't even made aware of it.
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The coaches weren't made aware of of of the curfew.
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And then you have these guys who are managing the game using
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pictures. The kid from CB CBA is cruising.
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I think he faced 9. He struck out seven.
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They're cruising. Oh, oh, by the way, by the way,
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the curfew's at 11:30. I think it was 11/30.
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It was 1030 when they shut the game down from what I
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understand, and they didn't think they were going to and
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they didn't want to risk anything.
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Well, how about the fact that you risked everything when you
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schedule the game at 4:00 and 7:00 Like, you know, and, and
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I'm going to tell you something. I'm not blowing my own horn or
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Mike's own horn or our Bergen County baseball tournaments own
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horn. But we put a lot of time and
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effort into scheduling things and into, hey, if we don't do
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this, what do we have as our backup plan?
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So not only did they do that, but then they back it up and
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they choose a weekend for the finals and they go 10147, right?
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Which was supposed to be yesterday.
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They don't have a rain day of Sunday because the rain day is
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Father's Day. So now they push everything to a
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Monday, Corey, everything to Monday, Monday and interrupt,
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interrupt the educational process of final exams, so on
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and so forth. So I, I just don't understand.
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I don't understand for the life of me why we don't use a, a Kane
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University. Why don't we don't?
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Why don't we use William Patterson?
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Why don't we use William Patterson?
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They used to use Ramapo. Why don't we use Rutgers
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University? Why don't we use a a a a
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facility that you know, it would help college baseball in New
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Jersey. It would help kids get exposure
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and we don't have a curfew. I it is it is beyond this was
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one of the biggest, biggest fumbles in NJSIAA history.
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This was so bad. I I mean, do you agree?
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Like how Corey, how bad was it? I, I will.
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Well, I have been the leading proponent over the last 10 years
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of seceding from the NJSIA. So if anybody gets that feeling
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now, please join me. I've been saying it for years.
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It's unnecessary. We have guys like yourself, We
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have very talented and very capable athletic directors
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across New Jersey who can do this without a pseudo governing
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body that only that that when things run, when things run
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smoothly, you're surprised. I mean, this is the the
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organization that put into practice this football state
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final with this idea of playing down to 1 state champion when
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you're actually playing down to seven state champions to get rid
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of the Tournament of champions in sports where it works like
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basketball where it was a tradition and softball where
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kids could play every day. But they're all about
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lengthening the football season because that's where the money
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comes from. Where the money comes from?
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Yeah, they have done away with any type of local rivalries that
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have made that have sustained high school sports since high
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school sports started now with snaking state tournaments.
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So that Ulta plan Pan plays W Morris in a game that nobody
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cares about, while Pascack Valley plays.
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Name your school from that. No one knows where it's from
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across town and nobody cares about.
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They're gotten rid of Thanksgiving Day football
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everywhere except for where you are.
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They have done numerous things that have made high school
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sports and the people who are interested in it, the people who
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cover it and the people who watch it, they've made it worse.
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So this is just the latest in a long line of, as you say,
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fumbles. But here's the question, Joe, as
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you eloquently put it, this is as bad as it gets.
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Who is responsible and what is the outcome of their, I don't
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want to say punishment, but what is the outcome?
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Who? Who's losing their?
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Who's losing their job? Nobody is because there's zero
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accountability. There's 0 accountability.
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And then whenever there's a problem, whenever there's a
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problem, they want to throw their hands up and go.
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That's a conference issue. Whenever there's a suggestion,
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whenever there's a suggestion and, and I've made numerous
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suggestions. I've made numerous suggestions.
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They are just. It's not.
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Put to the way, put to the wayside.
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Yep, Yep. Nope.
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You want to, you want to dictate, you want to dictate and
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you want to make your you. You want to make your rules and
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you want to dictate what goes on and when it goes on.
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But then when the you know what hits the fan and I won't curse
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you off the beat, but when it when it hits, when it hits the
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fan, Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That that that's a big N issue.
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That's a big N issue. That's that's a that.
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They've also screwed up PowerPoints over the years.
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They. Oh, brutal Corey, the baseball
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PowerPoints, Corey, the baseball PowerPoints are an embarrassment
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because you know what happened this year?
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And I'm not going to get into how they figured out what they
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do, how they do. Basically, it's an average, but
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you know what happened this year?
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The teams and and then, oh, here's here's classic.
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They they extend they arbitrarily.
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That's another one. Oh, I got.
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OK. I want to make just go ahead and
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continue with that. I'll have to make.
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A point. So they they, they arbitrarily
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send out a blast e-mail and go, oh, by the way, I think it was a
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day or two before the finals. The, the, the final gains, the
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cut off date was supposed to be right.
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So Yep, they arbitrarily cut it off right.
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And they go, oh, by the way, we're going to extend it to
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Wednesday. I don't remember the date.
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I I think it was the 21st. I'm not sure.
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Whatever it was, yeah. I'm not sure.
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I think it was the 21st, right? So now here's what happens,
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Corey, because it wasn't average, OK, if Doviak baseball
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plays 17 games, right? And Sotera baseball plays 24
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games. If I play one game, whose
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average is going to be impacted more, mine or yours?
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Who's good? What?
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Whose impact? Where's it going to don't react?
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Baseball is going to get many more points and is going to move
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on that scale much more than the team that played 24 games.
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Yes. So the teams, so the teams that
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put their record on the line, which is what, and I'll speak
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for the Bergen County tournament.
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We, we tell our guys all the time, time in Bergen County, put
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your record on the line, put your record on the line, put
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your record on the line, right? Yep.
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So now, so now the teams that put their record on the line,
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which was the majority of Bergen County baseball teams, got
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screwed because they played more games than teams from other
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counties. And you had teams like Ramsey
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that were jumped when they had 24 games played or whatever it
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was. They were jumped by teams that
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played 17 or 18 games, six or seven games less than them.
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Because we extend it. We don't talk to anyone.
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We have a Rules Committee, we have all, but we don't talk to
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anybody about it. Oh, by the way, we're moving
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this. Right.
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And what are the repercussions? What are the repercussions for
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that? And they're not here's here's a
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perfect example. It was on May 20th.
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I went to shoot Senior Night for Indian Hills baseball, right?
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Just not covering the game, just hey, can you come take pictures
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of Senior Night? OK, So I walk in last year, I
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forget who they played. Well, I know who they played,
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but I'm not going to say it out loud.
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But they walked, you know, there was the typical Senior Day
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opponent and Indian Hills got their seniors in there.
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They won the game by 13 and it was fun.
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You know, I walk in there this time and it's Ridgewood.
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And why Corey? Why was the Ridgewood Corey
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right? So I say to George Hill.
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I look at him like I hate George.
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What kind of maniac schedules Ridgewood for, you know, senior
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night? And he looks at me and goes.
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It was supposed to be after the cut off.
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Right. So Indian Hills, which had been
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in the 1-2 or three spot for the entire.
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Yep, Luke. Is on senior night, gets jumped
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by two or three teams, winds up with off draw they and lose to
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Midland Park as the number six seed in the semi finals.
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Now I don't know, you know, if they had been to three, it cost
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Indian Hills. Hey it it cost Indian Hills a
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home game. Yes, that's my point.
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It cost Indian Hills a home game or could have cost them a home
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game and they they don't even understand that there's
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repercussions like people schedule properly.
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George Hill scheduled Ridgewood for after the cut off so it
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didn't affect his seating as a Group One team playing at Group
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14. And still challenge his team
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though, you know what I mean, To get ready.
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He didn't care if you know originally, he doesn't care if
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he wins or loses that game. He's going to get his senior
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some playing time. He's going to put his other
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team, you know, his other players in later and.
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Try but his team and his team is going to see a quality opponent.
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But what did? But what did we do?
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Oh, FYI, that e-mail was absolutely when I tell you that
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all coaches went off the rails. Athletic director just went off
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the rails. At least the ones I spoke to.
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Did you? Get was there any, was there any
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like, hey, this is or any like we understand about not about
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this. But this is what we got, no?
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Just just no. Just here's our degree.
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Live with it you peasants and and pay your dues.
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Unbelievable. It really is.
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I mean, it's it's a joke, but I. Mean it's it was an e-mail that
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basically it was an e-mail that came out and said this is what
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we're doing live with it. It was basically as as cut and
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dry as it is. It was it said the state cut off
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has been extended to whatever it was May May that Wednesday.
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So it went from, I think it went from Saturday the 17th to
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Wednesday the 21st. That's right, that's what it was
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because it was the day before and I'm just looking at the
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folder and that. It's crushed schools, man.
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It's crushed schools. And Corey, if you look at the
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amount of schools that didn't have the amount of games played,
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it was like 5. So did somebody call in a favor?
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Like, what the hell happened? What happened?
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Yeah, you're wondering, Leaves. Leaves open that and there's no
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transparency, so it leaves open the the question of did somebody
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make a call? Was did somebody call marker and
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had it changed? I mean, how do we know?
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It, it, it, it you're, you're looking at a scenario where it's
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like, OK, let me look across the state of New Jersey.
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Let let's take Bergen County for example, because that's what
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we're familiar with, right? We have 51 or 5054 teams, OK?
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If you look at the Bergen County tournament in and of itself, use
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that as, as the, as the sub subgroup.
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OK. I, I don't know, in the Bergen
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County tournament, we, we didn't have any teams that didn't have
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16 games played. I, I don't think, I mean, we, we
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might have had a couple that had 1415.
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But but, but, but that was, but Corey, do you know when that was
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by three weeks before. Do you know when that was by?
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That was by May. That was that was by the the the
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cut off? That was by April 30th, I think.
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So your team's, your team's a Frank County that had 13 games.
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I mean, I mean 1415 games. OK, so by the time May 17th
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rolled around, you're looking at 20 games.
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So you mean to tell me that you can't play 16 games by May 17th
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when the season started? What was it, Corey?
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March 31st or March 28th? Whatever it was, was the was was
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the first game. Yeah, right.
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It was actually the Friday before the Monday.
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Yeah. So that's a.
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Laughable. Official opener, yeah, and I
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always. And then you get a, you get an
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e-mail. Do not reply.
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Do not reply. This is what this is what we're
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doing. The e-mail said.
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This is what we're doing. Oh yeah, you always that that
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that's how it comes out. Do not reply.
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I always. I was equated to Rand Paul
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because they have a tough home field, you know, it doesn't
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drain it. And so one day of rain is 2 days
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of rain outs. And with the horrible weather
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that we had, I mean, being on it, it was, it was the worst
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spring for weather that I can remember.
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I mean, I covered best games. I covered best games this spring
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that I have probably ever in the 26 years in North Jersey
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sports.com. It's simply because I wasn't
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going out in 50° and, and rainy. I just.
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I. It was bad.
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It was bad, buddy. It was real.
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Bad, but Ramapo. Ramapo had played their full
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slate of games before the. So if they can get it done.
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With a whole field that takes two days to drain, anybody can.
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I mean, it's it, it, I, I just don't, I, I, I don't understand
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it. I, I don't think it did to
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anybody. I, I mean, and, and honestly,
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you know, I, you know, Mike Rooney from, from Bosco, I, I
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don't know if you saw the clip on, on jersey sports zone or
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whatever that Channel is. No, but I mean, what, what a
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what a very classy, you know, that he had when yeah, when he
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said, you know, I don't think, you know, this game is about, he
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said this game is about Don Bosco and Christian Brothers
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Academy. It's about Bosco and CBA.
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It's about the players. It's about what was done on the
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field. It wasn't about a suspended
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game. And and the reality of it is
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those kids went out, you know, they went down there, then they
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went back again the next day and did what they had to do.
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You know, they they did what they had to do.
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But the reality of it is the NGSIA really kind of, you know,
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doesn't realize that that their decisions like fact, people
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affect like you're an in game manager, like you're managing
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that game right now with no curfew.
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You're managing that game as if, you know, we, we got to win it
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now. We got to win it tonight.
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There is no coming back. Guess what, guys, there is
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coming. There is a coming back because
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nobody told you about the curfew.
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Like I, I, I, I just don't, I don't, I don't understand how,
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how that is just it's beyond understand.
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It's, it's beyond comprehension. It really is.
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It's beyond comprehension. Yeah, yeah, it's it's terrible
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and good for Don Bosco Prep. I mean, they finished off.
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We talked about it after the Bergen County department.
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How about how this was the best Bosco team since the undefeated
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team? And they were, they were really
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a juggernaut this year. I mean, no one, no one was
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beating them except, you know. They're good, man.
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Portly had the chance. And what Portly couldn't, you
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know, close it out in the bottom of the second inning?
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You knew that this this team was good.
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They were so good. They were really good, you know.
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The players, maybe some potential draft picks on that
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team, they got they're they're a top, top notch.
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They. Yeah, they are.
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They are they, They, they, you know, I, I, I take it back to
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their game against JT Dorisso and Pascal Valley.
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Like I, I go, I go to that game and and I thought the kid
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Dorisso battled his ass off like I, I really do.
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Like I don't know how sharp he was, but he was sharp enough to
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hold them to three one. You know, when he came off the
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mound, Bosco was up three one. And and I keep saying that like.
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The approach that Bosco had in that game, those kids did not
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chase, they did not expand. They were I, I, I, I think if
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they pulled 3 or 4 baseballs in the entire game, like their,
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their approach at the plate was just phenomenal.
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They didn't, they never wavered, they never got nervous.
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They never got tense. They, they just did things, you
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know, the way that you want a baseball team to, to do things,
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you know, when things are going bad, when things are, when
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things are tense, when things are not going your way, you kind
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of just make a play, make something happen, you know, and,
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and that was their, that was their MO.
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You know, they, they, they just grind and grind and grind.
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And you know, I, I, I wasn't at the finals, but you know, from,
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from the updates I was getting, they, they, they pretty much did
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the same, the same type of approach to that game as well.
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You know, they got, they were down, they came back, they got
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up and when the trips were down, they, they, you know, they made
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the plays. They're, it's a, it's a tribute
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to them, a tribute to them. You know, a lot of teams, a lot
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of teams, you know, Glen Rock, Glen Rock winning their, their
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that sectional, you know, beaten, confident Valley.
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In the final, yeah. Yeah, that was that was a big
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one. You know what's funny, we say
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all the time, like last year I covered Pascal Valley's run all
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the way to the state final and they gave Governor Livingston a
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heck of a run in the state championship game.
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And you know, as you're driving back from Trenton back up the
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Turnpike or however, which way you go, you just the season like
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all the kids that they have coming back, including JT
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Duriso, who is the starter in the, you know, state
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championship game last year, coming back to lead your
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rotation with Brendan Gaston, who was their number 2 as a
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sophomore coming back as a junior.
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And he had a great year as well. You had a lot of injuries at the
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end of last year that those kids were going to come back healthy.
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And you say, you know what, we're going to go, we'll we'll
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do it again next year. But Yep, it just reaffirms when
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you have the chance, you have to grab it because nothing is
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guaranteed. And although it was another
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great year for Pascack Valley, as I said in the when I wrote
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the story on the county championship, they were the de
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facto Bergen County Public School champion because they
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beat Ramapo in the semi finals and then they, you know, made
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the county final. But they lost at home in the
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section final against Glenrock with JT Duriso in a game at JCJ
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Till. Again, Theresa, again, Theresa
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came out of that game. He came out of that game.
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I think he was up five one, right?
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What? What was the score, you know?
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I don't know what. Yeah, no, I.
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Don't you know he's up? He's you know, he's up and, and,
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and, and what a what a what a testament to Glen Rock like like
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what a what a great job they did like, you know, to to go on
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their home field, you know, Pascack Valley's home field and,
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and win a sectional title is is absolutely tremendous and it.
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This. Call is now being recorded.
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Go ahead. So, so Corey, if you remember,
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you know Glenrock, we were talking earlier about how they
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extended cut offs and so on and so forth.
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Glenrock was like a top three team.
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And then they extend the cut off and Glenrock gets screwed and
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gets dropped to a six seed. OK, there's another one that I
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wasn't aware of, but yeah. It, you know, that's like they
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were one of the best 6 seeds that I can remember in, in, in
24:02
state tournament history. Like that's a very, very good
24:06
baseball team that was a top three or four seed that gets
24:11
dropped to a six. And granted, you know, you're a
24:13
six, you still get a home game. You're A6 instead of a three
24:18
because the state decided to say, Oh yeah, guys, on the 11th
24:23
hour. We we, we changed our minds and
24:25
we're going to extend the cut off 5 days.
24:29
Yep. Like it's UN unbelievable.
24:32
Like it made me when I saw the e-mail come across.
24:37
It didn't affect us. Like it didn't affect Duma.
24:39
Like we were, we were 12 or 13, whatever we were, we were and we
24:44
were going to see who we saw. But I'm looking at all of these
24:48
other schools that got moved or didn't move when it would have
24:52
benefited them, then they were moved when it didn't benefit
24:56
them and it hurt them. And it was all because why?
25:00
Somebody said we're done, We're going to extend the cut off
25:04
because five schools in the state of New Jersey didn't play
25:08
enough games. I mean, you look at that
25:11
bracket, you look at that bracket too, like last.
25:14
Bracket. No offense, I I don't know I
25:17
didn't cover Vernon baseball this year, but you cannot tell
25:21
me that a team playing in Vernon is the number two seed.
25:25
Correct. And the thing you know, Ramsey
25:27
is the three ma was. Did you see what Glenmark did to
25:30
Vernon? I think, I think, I think
25:32
Glenmark beat Vernon 11. Nothing. 11 Nothing in, you
25:37
know, 5 innings, 4 1/2 in five again, drive all the way out to
25:41
Vernon. That game probably lasted 45
25:43
minutes. They beat him. 11 Nothing and.
25:46
Maximum 5. Thank you.
25:48
Yeah. So.
25:49
See ya. It there, there's no common
25:53
sense in it. It's just it's just crazy.
25:56
So let's, you know, sum that up a great year for Glen Rock to
25:59
win the North one through state sectional championship.
26:02
And let's give Pascack Valley some credit too.
26:05
They made the county tournament final and they got beat by in
26:09
Glen Rock in the final and that day.
26:12
Speaking of good teams, now usually I go on a run like I'll
26:15
pick a team early in the States and yeah, I will get jump on
26:19
board. Everything I tried this year
26:22
came up zeros for me. You know, the, the first thing
26:26
was I was thinking, you know, if Pascack Hills beats Jefferson at
26:30
home in the first round, you got the Pascack Valley, Pascack
26:34
Hills Game 2, you know, in the quarterfinals, I'm covering that
26:38
game and then Pascack was one to Jefferson at.
26:41
Home in the. Opening then in the later
26:44
rounds, I figure, you know what, Morris Knowles.
26:46
I looked at their schedule, the teams they lost to, they were
26:50
the two time defending sectional champion.
26:53
So I'm like, you know what, Ultipan's going to beat him in
26:55
the semi finals. Yeah, whatever.
26:57
And it's going to be a good and it's going to be a good story.
26:59
So I went to do Ultipan Morris Knowles and that was a mistake.
27:04
Yes. So then I'm like, well, Ramapo
27:07
is going to play them in the final and I'll get Pascal.
27:11
You know, I I I covered Pascal Valley in the section final last
27:13
year and I'm like, well, and they were playing Glen Rock.
27:16
So I'm like either one of those teams is my team.
27:18
So whoever wins, I'll get in the state semi finals.
27:22
So I think let's do Ramapo against Morris Knowles because
27:25
Morris Knowles is the two time defending champion and Ramapo's
27:27
good and Ramapo's at home and Ramapo's going to beat them.
27:30
And Ramapo, 5 batters into the game, had a four nothing lead
27:34
because Ty Barber hit a one out Grand Slam in the first inning
27:39
and Cody Herman was throwing darts at Morris Knowles.
27:45
And then I had to go to my car to get my recorder and I was,
27:48
I'm walking back to the field. One of the longest home runs
27:52
I've ever seen hit in high school baseball goes sailing
27:54
over the left field fence. The kid whose name I can't
27:57
remember, Dylan Fitzsimmons from Morris Nelson, hit to left field
28:03
to get Morris Knowles back in the game.
28:04
They come all the way back from down 4, nothing in the bottom of
28:07
the first to A5 four win and they beat round Paul.
28:10
So I got. And then just to top it all off
28:14
in softball, I went to watch Old Japan against Roxbury in the
28:18
North one Group 3 sectional final.
28:20
It was so perfect set up for North Jersey sports.com.
28:24
Basically a home game right around the corner from the world
28:26
headquarters of North Jersey sports.com.
28:29
Entering the 5th inning, Old Japan has a one nothing lead and
28:32
loses 12/1 in the sixth. Thanks for coming season over so
28:38
North Jersey Cory struggled. Corey, you're like the great
28:42
Bambino. You're like the curse.
28:45
Oh my God, And usually I'm the opposite.
28:47
I get, I get him. I went down to Woodridge.
28:49
I went, drove all the way down because I got pressure on
28:53
Twitter from the mailman umpire, from Choo Choo, Jesse Romano.
29:01
Oh, he doesn't go below Route 4. You know, he promised us he's
29:04
going to see us in the quarterfinals if we win in the
29:07
opening round, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
29:09
The Hell's he talking about? You cover more South Jersey.
29:12
You cover more southern Bergen County baseball than anybody
29:16
else I know. What is he talking about?
29:19
Yes. What is he talking about?
29:20
And honestly, honestly, you, you're, you're going to be
29:23
inducted into the Woodridge Baseball Hall of Fame as an
29:29
honorary inductee. So whatever Romano's talking
29:33
about, he needs to reevaluate first of all, first and
29:36
foremost. Way to barely Dickinson
29:39
University at Madison. Then what happened, Corey?
29:44
What happened, Mr. Lucky? Oh, I got the story of the year.
29:49
Nobody else is here, no reporters, no nothing.
29:52
I got the story because Woodridge is up five, nothing on
29:55
Hanover Park in the first inning.
29:57
And they lost. Joe and I drove all the way home
30:02
saying the whole time, what were you thinking?
30:07
What were you thinking? Did you get a thank you from
30:11
Just to remind you, did you get a thank you from Jesse Romano?
30:15
No, You know what I got from Jesse Romano?
30:17
A mamba. What'd you get?
30:18
You know those little candies? He gave me one.
30:21
Yeah, Yeah. That's it.
30:23
That's great. Thanks, Jesse.
30:25
Thanks. Jesse Romano, pitching coach,
30:28
Woodridge High School. What I did find out, though, is
30:31
remember Emerson. Former Emerson football coach
30:34
Mike Mendido is The Athletic. Great guy.
30:36
Salt to the earth, Salt to the earth.
30:38
Good dude. So I got to see him.
30:39
That was nice. He's the athletic director at
30:43
Hanover Park. Yeah, very, very good guy, Very
30:46
good guy. So I I even wrote the story
30:48
because whatever it was a good a good run by Hanover Park,
30:50
though, but I had Jersey sports.com really struggle down
30:54
the stretch of the of the state playoffs here and.
30:58
I mean. We still have one left and I
31:00
ain't going. I'm not going.
31:02
Well, you know, I mean, we haven't, we haven't had him on
31:06
yet. And, and I think, I think he's
31:08
getting, I think he's getting a little bit of a complex.
31:11
But we, we've been going back and forth with Frank Clark.
31:14
Yeah, we've been going back and forth with Frank Clark about
31:17
we're going to have you on. We're going to call you.
31:19
We're going to do this, as a matter of fact, tonight, tonight
31:21
I said, yeah, we're going to call you in a little bit.
31:23
And then you and I get on the show and we're like, ah, forget
31:25
it. We're not going to call him.
31:27
We'll just do the show with me and you.
31:29
And if he wins, then we'll call him.
31:30
So Frank, we're not calling you. You're not doing the show, but
31:34
we're rooting for you. Well, well, we want you to win
31:36
because you're the only Bergen County team left And and that's
31:39
all we have to say about you and Midland Park.
31:43
But you don't feel crazy, honestly.
31:45
Yeah, Go get honestly about Midland Park.
31:47
And I don't mean this. I don't mean this in a bad way.
31:49
I don't mean this in a disrespectful way.
31:51
I mean this in the most complimentary of ways.
31:54
And if anybody out there understands team sports, he has
31:58
a bunch of good average high school baseball players.
32:04
Like there's not one kid on Midland Park that stands out and
32:08
goes, holy cow, this kids unbelievable.
32:11
He's got kids that just grind and it's, you know, one kid, one
32:17
game, it's another kid, another game.
32:20
They don't have that outstanding arm that's going to blow you
32:22
away. They're just a team of kids that
32:26
grinds and, and comes at you and doesn't go away.
32:30
You know, they, they just do things fundamentally, right.
32:33
They, they have a very good, a very good overall demeanor in
32:39
terms of they don't stop, you know, they, they, they just
32:43
don't stop. They, they, they do a great,
32:45
great job. And I think that starts with
32:48
him. You know, he, he's a competitor,
32:51
he's a positive guy. You know, we never get down.
32:54
And, and that's honestly, man, that's why they are where they
32:57
are. They're, they're, they're not a
33:00
team that you look at and go, holy cow, they're loaded with,
33:03
you know, 9 kids that, that, that just stand out.
33:06
They're just not and and that makes it.
33:09
It's got to make it that much sweeter than just a bunch of
33:11
kids that grind every day. And the other thing about it is
33:15
Midland Park in the modern day has had the best season a Group
33:23
One school from Bergen County can have.
33:24
Now they can make it a little bit better by winning against
33:27
Middlesex in the Group One final on Monday.
33:30
And if they do, we will have Frank Clark on and we will talk
33:32
all about it and we will be excited about it.
33:34
But if you think about it, they won a league title, they made
33:38
the Bergen County Tournament, then they got dropped into the
33:41
BIT and they made it all the way to the final where they put up a
33:44
good fight against Group 4 Ridgewood.
33:46
So that's as good of like that's that team is bound for the
33:51
Athletic Hall of Fame, if there is such a thing at Midland Park
33:54
High School. That's as I mean, how much
33:57
better are you going to do nowadays as a Group 1?
33:59
School. You're not.
34:00
You're not. You're not, so I mean. 100% that
34:04
team they win a sectional title. Listen any any high school team
34:08
that wins a sectional title belongs in their schools Hall of
34:11
Fame. Yes, correct.
34:12
It's that simple. It's that simple.
34:14
Like if you win a section. Final say they lose that game in
34:17
a section final. It's still an unbelievable
34:19
season because you know, like the team they lost to in a BIT
34:23
was Ridgewood, which, yeah, you know, as always in in a in a
34:26
mediocre season. And I'm sure, you know, I don't
34:29
know if Kurt Holman would agree with that or not, But from, you
34:31
know, a guy who's covered Richard for a long time, it's a
34:33
mediocre season for Ridgewood and they still wound up in the
34:36
section clown and they want to be they.
34:38
Lost, right? They lost the PCTI.
34:40
Right. Yeah, at PCTI, they only give up
34:42
four runs in in the Yankee Stadium of high school
34:44
basketball, high school baseball, the beat the band.
34:47
Take it easy because I you know what?
34:49
You know what, I could totally say something about what
34:51
happened at Shea State Citi Field last night, but I will
34:56
not, I will not say it. I will not go into how I feel
35:00
about what happened at City Field last night.
35:05
Just leave it up. But I do, I do have a question
35:08
for you though. I do have a question. 190 foot
35:10
right field porch but it's OK, take it.
35:12
Take it. It's not too 90.
35:13
It's it's it's it's. It's not too many same same
35:15
dimensions with the Palisades parked literally in 1989.
35:18
No, no. That would be that would be the
35:19
old Waldwick, the old Waldwick field, or actually the the
35:22
Waldwick. Field.
35:22
Yeah, yeah, the right field porch, that is true.
35:25
Bob Bruto, bruto, Bruto. Let me let me ask you a
35:28
question, Corey. Hypothetically speaking, how
35:32
would you feel when you come down to All County that we no
35:37
longer have an All County team that combines Big North and
35:42
NJIC? We have an all NJIC team and we
35:45
have an all Big N team. What's her opinion on that?
35:48
Go oh, it's it has to happen because it's it's two different
35:53
levels of competition. So it's not fair either way.
35:58
I mean, it's not fair because how can you put NJIC team
36:03
especially? I mean, you look at some of the
36:06
schedules, some of those NJIC teams don't play anybody outside
36:09
the NJIC. Yeah, you know who who's going
36:12
to play. So you know, I can understand.
36:15
And again, people don't know Leonia had a kid this year.
36:18
And as far as I know, I graduated from Leonia High
36:21
School in 1990. And in the time that I.
36:25
Was there? We've been through this many
36:28
times on the football show. I went to Palisades Park through
36:31
11th grade and in my senior year I transferred to Leonia where I
36:34
actually graduated from SO. Why did you why did you
36:37
transfer? Well, I mean, they were.
36:39
They were, as Dan Vivino will say it was, I was the original
36:44
athletic transfer. But if you saw my game in 1990,
36:48
you knew that that was not breaking any laws.
36:51
I mean, we moved, I moved to Edgewater so that that was in
36:53
the Leonia, Leonia sending district.
36:55
I fair enough. Listen, we don't need to rehash.
36:58
Also so so my my my thing is this OK?
37:01
Yep, my my thing is this. But this is the first, first
37:04
team all all county player from Leonia in my 35 years of knowing
37:10
if there's an all county player from Leonia.
37:12
Yeah, no, understood, but but, but what do you feel about the
37:17
OR, or do you agree? I should say not what do you
37:20
feel? Do you agree that you have
37:24
competition against, you know, you're, you're, you're talking
37:28
big North? Well, I do feel like we should
37:31
have one. We should, we should have one
37:33
integrated team. Now I don't, you know.
37:36
How do you integrate A-Team though?
37:38
How? How?
37:39
It's all going to be big N players.
37:41
Yeah, you're right, You're right.
37:42
Because you could say we'll have a team, you know, let's call it
37:45
the coaches, All County overall, all county team, which
37:48
incorporates all of it. But that's what you do anyway,
37:50
so. Right.
37:51
It doesn't make sense. You're right.
37:52
You're 100% right. Now you got to have an all NJIC
37:55
team and you got to have an all. And I think and I think.
37:59
You can get away with they may be doing a parochial team group
38:02
three Group 4 and a Group One group 2.
38:04
No, no, no, don't, don't even don't even separate, don't even
38:07
separate the the the parochial. Like don't, don't do that.
38:11
Do I? I think you do a a big north and
38:15
I think you do an all, all NJIC. And here's my thing though.
38:18
Like everyone wants to immediately jump on that and go,
38:22
oh, why? Because no, no, no, if you do an
38:25
all NJIC team, think about how many more NJIC team kids are
38:30
going to get recognition. Yeah.
38:34
Right. Am I right or am I wrong?
38:37
But do they do? I mean, you know, everything's
38:38
broken down into these small leagues, so you guys should have
38:40
all league and then all. Do they do an all NJIC team?
38:44
I don't know because the Big N does not do an all big N team.
38:48
No, they they, they, they do you know, you get your first team
38:52
all counting and and you get your first team.
38:54
You know, you're, you're, you're I'm sorry, your your first team
38:57
all league and you get your first team all league in both
39:00
conferences. And then and then you have your
39:02
pushes. But but my thing is, is, is
39:05
that, you know, if you got a kid that's let's let's be honest and
39:12
say what it is. You, you, you got a kid that's
39:15
hitting 530 against in a, in a conference in a, in a division
39:25
that's, you know, I mean, you, you had three state qualifier
39:30
Joe, you had did you? Hear that, ladies and gentlemen,
39:33
that was Joe Joe Santerra trying to have some tact.
39:37
Yes, trying to be trying to be trying to be correct here, but
39:41
you have with with all due respect, you have teams that
39:45
don't qualify for the state playoffs in divisions that are
39:49
not that are not very strong to say the least.
39:53
And you have, you know, first team all county kids.
39:58
I mean, listen, if you're a first, how does that?
40:00
Work. How does that work though?
40:01
So Jake Capra of Leonia and Damon Rivera of Hasbro Kites are
40:05
at large hits on the 1st. Team right Yeah, County so very
40:09
good and then. And then you look at OK, but
40:12
then you look at at the second team of and Trevor Kirkby, who
40:18
was the starting third baseman and number what, 3 or 4 hitter
40:22
on Pascack Valley, which made the final and the section final,
40:26
and Steve Klein of Westwood, who's probably.
40:28
From. You know one of the clients
40:30
from. Westwood, he's, he's going to be
40:32
arguably one of the most decorated athletes to come
40:35
through Bergen County in, in, in, in God knows how many years.
40:40
I mean, if you look at there were so many kids that were on
40:44
that second team, all county team that belonged on 1st
40:50
county, first team, all county. Yes and look at Alice Belovich
40:54
from Ramapo, LJ Renshaw from Indian Hills.
40:57
Indian Hills is best player. I mean, listen, I mean, look at
41:02
this, if you're a first team all county kid, like if you're a
41:07
first team all county kid, you better stand out in every single
41:12
game you play, whether you're O for three or three for three,
41:15
that that's that's just that's how it is.
41:18
I mean, you can't you there is no way that you can go over in
41:24
in an NJIC game or you know, it would and you know, so out of
41:30
baseball. How do you make and?
41:31
I don't want to pick on these kids.
41:34
I mean this is this has nothing. To do no.
41:36
It's not about that. It's not about that.
41:38
It's an above the level. Like I'm pumped for Jay Capra,
41:42
Leonia High School graduate and I'm sure he had a great year,
41:46
you know, and I'm pumped for Damon Rivera of Hasbro kites.
41:50
So listen that that is not the issue here, but the issue is how
41:55
do you make an all county team without taking one swing in your
42:00
career in the Bergen County Baseball Tournament.
42:03
I, I, I don't know Corey, I don't know.
42:06
I, I, I mean, it's like that, that that's what you and I are
42:10
talking about right now. It's, it's, you know, you, you
42:13
have some kids that are on that second team, second team, all
42:17
county that deserve first team and didn't get it.
42:23
And they did play in the Bergen County Tournament for three or
42:27
four years. Yeah, you know, they they did
42:30
play in 3 or 4 Bergen County, Torrance, some of whom made the
42:34
finals. What's going on over?
42:37
You got a burglar or something? Doug the mascot, the North
42:41
Jersey sports.com mascot Not happy about your dog's name is
42:45
Doug? Yes.
42:47
And it's not Eddie. It should be Eddie, but Doug is
42:51
not happy that some other person with a dog has the temerity.
42:56
To walk the nerve in front the nerve.
42:59
To walk right in front of the world headquarters in North.
43:02
Jersey imagine if it lifted his imagine if it lifted his leg and
43:06
his pissed out of her lawn. You don't want to went through
43:08
the window. Girl, he's doing his job.
43:15
He's he's like a chopper from standby.
43:24
So that's I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, I
43:28
don't. Want no the bottom.
43:29
The bottom 1 sounds like. We're telling it that these kids
43:31
don't deserve it and. No, no, that's not what I'm
43:34
saying. Even if we.
43:35
Believe that I don't mean to convey that, you know.
43:37
No, what I'm saying is that that in fairness to the conferences
43:42
and in fairness to the kids that play in each conference, there
43:45
needs to be an all pick N and there needs to be an all NJIC.
43:50
Or if you're not going to do that, then you need to do
43:53
something along the lines of you need to have a double.
43:58
You need to have two teams that are first team all county
44:02
because if you have so you have a a a a first teamwell county
44:06
and then you almost you know, you have a second group of kids
44:09
that are first teamwell County because or, or 18 kids because
44:15
to have an enough for I said that wrong.
44:18
You have 18 kids on 1st teamwell County.
44:22
So you have basically the potential for two teams.
44:28
You know what, you don't you understand what I'm saying?
44:29
Am I saying that the right way? OK, Because because you, you
44:34
there, there's no way, and I don't mean this in any, in any
44:38
disrespectful way to any kid from any conference.
44:42
But you know, you take a kid from, from, you know, the, the,
44:46
the, the freedom division or or whatever, like it, it just,
44:51
it's, it's not equitable. It's not equitable.
44:54
And, and I think the accomplishments are wonderful.
44:58
We want the exposure for all our kids.
45:00
We're happy for kids. We're not trying to take things
45:03
away from kids. But when you, when you talk
45:05
about what you're earning and what you're really getting.
45:10
Frank Clark is calling me right now.
45:14
Do you want to? Do you want to have Frank Clark
45:16
on? I mean, we're on the air right
45:19
now, so I guess we kind of have to.
45:23
Should we just call them back out of the blue?
45:25
Yeah, I think we should. OK.
45:28
I think we should all. Right, your decisions made on
45:32
the fly here. Just text them and tell them
45:34
we're going to have them on 30 minutes into the show.
45:37
I feel like we got bullied by Ed Ahern again into doing this.
45:42
Eddie Ahern Eddie Ahern Let me tell you something about Eddie
45:44
Ahern. Salt, salt of the earth guy like
45:48
best one of the best best human beings, he.
45:51
Lives. He will do anything to you.
45:53
Eddie Ahern will do anything for anybody.
45:56
He is absolutely one of the greatest human beings ever.
46:01
But he's a bully. He's a big bully.
46:05
That's what he is. Did you text Frank?
46:10
No, I've been talking to you. Should we have them on or
46:15
should? Are we on the air?
46:17
Are you leaving this on? Are you leaving?
46:19
This on, I'm totally leaving this on.
46:21
I want people to know what goes on in our heads here.
46:24
And you know, we're going to have, you know.
46:26
Frank Clark. Frank Clark talked to a dead
46:29
body for like 45 minutes. So, so 8:00 I'm going to say
46:35
that that's the whole thing. Like my kids are standing at my
46:37
sliding door and going how much longer the pieces?
46:40
How much longer for the pieces? And I'm like, I'm, I'm depriving
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them. So, so do you want to call him
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up? You have his number.
46:47
I do. Are we?
46:48
We're going to have them. We're going to have them.
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Yeah, just do it and we're going to be quick.
46:53
It's gonna be quick. You know, I was just about to
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wrap up the show and say, like, you know, Joe Sottera, junior
46:59
grad, Did he graduate? How's graduation?
47:02
No, he graduates on on June 23rd.
47:05
He's he has been pitching with, with CTBA in on on this team
47:12
where like his 18 U team is a bunch of kids that are committed
47:16
to college, but they haven't started yet because CTBA doesn't
47:20
start their stuff due to graduations and Proms.
47:24
So they don't start until like June 20th.
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So he's been pitching with a a group of kids.
47:29
Actually he's playing with the kid from Wesley.
47:32
Remember the kid? Mike Korsich?
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Yes. Yeah, he's, he's playing with
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that team and he's been doing very well.
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He's at Muhlenberg, Yes. Yep, Yep, Yep.
47:44
He's at Muhlenberg. Having a very nice had a very
47:47
nice season there. And Joe is is, you know, getting
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acclimated to throwing against college hitters.
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And I have to say it's he's he's been doing very well.
48:00
So we're very, very proud and and happy for him.
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Although his brother James, his brother James seems to think
48:08
that he would dominate that league, which is not surprising.
48:15
With his dry fit North Jersey sports.com T-shirt through.
48:18
Well, they're very upset. They they fought, they actually
48:20
fought over the shirts because you gave you gave like a really
48:25
nice maroon you. You have the.
48:28
Maroon ones really nice. You gave the royal blue like
48:31
there was like a royal blue, I think, and then you gave this
48:34
you gave this Jelly green one that is absolutely disgusting.
48:38
Like a lot of the colors. All the Kelly so bad.
48:46
James and Thomas the literal Who's wearing the cream?
48:59
I'll send out a shout out here because Evan Baumgarten, who is
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the ground post soccer coach and also the pride sports time, he
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he supplies those T-shirts. It's free.
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Ask them if the green ones for free because they're ugly.
49:16
No more green ones. No green now, no more green.
49:21
They're ugly now. Hold on, hold the line here.
49:22
I'm going to try to put first time ever on any North Jersey
49:26
sports.com multimedia presentation where I'm going to
49:28
try to pull in a a guest while we're talking and we'll try to
49:33
do it without losing a beat here.
49:35
So all right, Joe. Well, we said we were going to
49:37
have Frank Clark on. And it's not that we lied.
49:39
It's just that we did the interview and it was so great.
49:42
So we're going to keep it as a separate section, a separate
49:46
standalone edition. It'll say his own season 11
49:51
episode 9 A. So check that out on North
49:54
Jersey, sports.com and Spotify as well.
49:57
The Frank Clark interview which got me, you know, it was so
50:02
great that I always thought about driving down to Trent
50:04
tomorrow, but I'm not doing it anyway.
50:06
Yeah, I, I, you know, getting getting back to the NGSIA while
50:10
while we're hammering them what like, I don't even understand
50:15
like the the the games used to be played at Toms River right
50:19
Core Remember when they used to be played at.
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Toms River. Toms River north.
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Toms River East. Yeah, yeah.
50:25
So when when it's not broken, don't fix it.
50:29
Like, why would they in their right mind move it to whatever
50:35
park veterans park in Hamilton? Like, I want to know the
50:39
explanation for that. Who got a kickback for that?
50:42
Why did that happen? Why did that happen?
50:45
Veterans park with a curfew and then you start games at 4:00 and
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7:00. Explain that.
50:52
Explain. That oh, it's it's it's not
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there is much which makes it curious what are we doing like
50:59
and what is the. What are we doing?
51:02
Why does football, Why does football play at Rutgers in the
51:04
Meadowlands? Why?
51:07
Why? Well, football is all messed up
51:10
too. Can you imagine if if we did
51:12
like the section? Like the section finals, Group
51:16
1, the North Jersey Group One state football championship
51:19
followed by two 3-4 and five right in a row at a local venue.
51:23
You'd have 15,000 people through there.
51:25
It would be amazing. Do it at Clifton.
51:27
Do it at Clifton Stadium. Not just the last one now.
51:31
Well then you have it at Ramapol.
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I just don't understand. I, I, I just, I just don't
51:37
understand it. I, I, I don't understand.
51:39
Like every single sport, soccer, volleyball, baseball, softball,
51:46
football should all be played at a venue where there is
51:51
absolutely no question that the games will be played to its
51:55
entirety. No question, it's not a 13 new
51:59
travel game at in in in a town field.
52:03
It's a state final against against two of the best teams in
52:08
the nation and you have a curfew and you're not sure.
52:12
It may end. It may not end.
52:14
We may have to bag it. So let's bag it at 10:30, even
52:18
though the lights don't go out until 11:30.
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Give me a break, Give me a break.
52:23
You want to know what it does? Court.
52:25
It adds validity to the. Where where are you saying that
52:28
you you might have been a little bit hard on the NGS?
52:34
Oh, yeah. I don't care.
52:37
I don't care. I don't care because you know
52:39
what? You know what?
52:41
It's, it's. And and here's what makes me so
52:44
irate is that when I make a mistake as, as as an athletic
52:48
director, as a father, as it doesn't matter.
52:51
I'm accountable for my mistakes. I am accountable, and in my
52:57
life, people hold you accountable.
53:00
Who holds them accountable? What's going to happen?
53:03
Nothing. There's going to be a lot of
53:05
hearsay, there's going to be a lot of conversation, there's
53:08
going to be a lot of criticism. But in the end, at the end of
53:11
the game, at the end of the night, at the end, who holds
53:15
them accountable for the decisions?
53:18
Not a soul. Nobody.
53:20
They don't have to answer to anyone and it's a shame because
53:24
you know what, if I'm CBA, if I'm CBA, I am out.
53:30
And and kudos to the way they handled it because like I said
53:34
before, kudos to them. They're the kid that they
53:37
brought in, faced 9 hitters, struck out seven and was
53:41
cruising cruising. I'm not saying, I'm not saying
53:46
they were going to win the game that that's but but in that
53:50
moment when you have Mr. MO on your side, right, your 4/4 extra
53:58
innings and your guy is absolutely dealing and carving
54:02
people up and you got this guy that comes and goes.
54:05
Oh, by the way, slight we have, we have a slight little thing we
54:10
have to tell you guys that we didn't tell you at the beginning
54:12
of the game. That's your take.
54:16
Coach, you got a quick second. It's got a Just want to ask you
54:19
something. Curfew.
54:21
Coach, Coach, can I see can I see you over here in the dugout
54:23
for a second, please? Yeah.
54:24
Just something. What's up?
54:25
What's up? You know, I I know your guy is
54:29
like not a lot of base runner for three innings, but we we
54:33
have a curfew on field curfew and we have to shut the game
54:37
down. Like, give me a break.
54:39
Awful, Corey, just awful. I agree.
54:42
I agree, but you know what's not awful?
54:44
Season 11 of Talking Baseball here on North Jersey sports.com.
54:49
Have we done quarter we've had? Now we've had Frank Clark on and
54:52
we may have him on again tomorrow if they win.
54:55
As I said, I'll pass the phone around from the victorious on
54:58
the way back to Bergen County. But.
55:00
If Midland Park, if Midland Park wins, right?
55:05
If Midland Park wins, we're going to have another episode.
55:10
Is that correct? That is correct, yes.
55:13
If Middlesex wins, nobody gives a crap.
55:16
No, we hate Middlesex. Hate them?
55:18
Right, I I don't like what their coach did to Frank.
55:21
Like no, I don't hate them. You know, like if I was Frank.
55:24
Yeah, like, give me a break. Like if I was like, yo, who do
55:26
you play first of all? Who do you even?
55:28
Play right. Where is Middlesex?
55:32
Like where you where? It's in Middlesex.
55:34
Where do you live? Yeah, yeah.
55:37
Who do you play? Yeah, who do you play, 11?
55:40
Game your 11 game schedule. All right bro, that's a wrap.
55:47
See. You know he's happy, though.
55:49
You know who's happy who? Eddie Ahern.
55:54
Eddie Ahern can, he can work the mail route 3 straight days
55:57
listening to this. He can, he can chop this up into
55:59
as many parts as he wants and he can listen to this whole thing.
56:02
So Eddie, this one's for you. See you next.
56:05
This one's for you, Eddie Ahern. Follow the leader.