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Donna Powell's Incredible Journey of Faith, Cancer & Manifestation · 4biddenknowledge Podcast

• 1:00
  SPEAKER_09: Sure, so I had a post-dated check for$250 is how I started my agency with the post-dated check.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_09: I had it gutted, rebuilt, and open in October.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_09: I purchased the build the building May 15th, 2017.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_09: Um that same day we went to go turn on my phones, mine and my daughter.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_09: And I my I got a phone call on my phone while we were turning on her phone from my doctor saying I had cancer and that I needed to get home and that I needed cancer treatment.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_09: So like I just signed my life away to get out of the US.
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  SPEAKER_09: And then there goes that, you know, Matrix.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_09: There comes the matrix, gonna suck me back into the game, you know, and I'm getting out of the game.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_09: The quicker you can get to acceptance, game over.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_09: Because it's the it's not accepting the truth of your reality that keeps you in the loop.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_09: But I mean, I can keep saying, well, Billy should do this, uh, Billy should do this, that the moment I accept that Billy doesn't have time to do this, that this is my it's my responsibility, well then boy, there there goes the problem.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_09: There's 18 stages to get all the way to ascension, right?
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_09: To be able to manifest what?
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_09: Instantaneously.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_09: That's just like me sitting here with Billy Carson.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: Did I say meditation and just manifest it?
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, I did.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you but you've taken all that you've gone through and you've alchemically converted it into knowledge, wisdom, ascension, and help for other people, and that's an absolute blessing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I hope everyone watching right now is really paying attention to what Donna Powell has been talking about, what she's been teaching.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_01: She's lived this life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Her book is called The A Game.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm telling you, you want to go and get this book immediately.
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  SPEAKER_01: The link will be underneath this video, and the link will also be in the audio as well.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, what's up, everybody?
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's Billy Carson, aka Forbidden Knowledge.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to talk to you guys today about the 12-day forbidden tour of Egypt.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: This is not your average Egypt tour.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity hosted by myself, Billy Carson.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna go beyond the Taurus traps.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've secured private closed door access to the Sphinx, the Assyrian Temple, the Esna Temple, the Serapium, and also the Step Pyramid in Saqqara.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of course, we're gonna visit the Great Pyramid and spend a lot of time in it doing great meditations and exploring underneath the shafts, deep beneath the pyramid itself.
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  SPEAKER_01: You'll stay in the five-star hotel.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're also gonna pool down the Nile in complete luxury on our brand new ship.
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  SPEAKER_01: Every day is packed with sacred site visits, exclusive lectures, ancient wisdom, gourmet food, and of course, spiritual connections.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you're gonna create incredible friends that will last a lifetime, I guarantee it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Last year, over 100 people joined us, and every single one of them left completely changed forever.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: Now only a handful of seats remain, so make sure you hurry up and join us on this amazing journey before it sells out.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you've ever dreamed about walking the path of the ancients, now is your chance.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure you register today to reserve your spot before it's all gone.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can't wait to see you in Egypt.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I guarantee it's gonna change your life.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, everyone, welcome to another amazing episode of the Forbidden Knowledge Podcast, and I'm Billy Carson.
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  SPEAKER_01: And today I have an amazing guest and really great friend and also a mentee right here on the Forbidden Knowledge Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Her name is Donna Powell, and she has spent her entire life traveling the world looking for truth, looking for wisdom, seeking wisdom, gaining wisdom, seeking delight.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's been on tours with me.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's been at many, many events that I've done around the world.
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  SPEAKER_01: She just came back from Australia hiking in the Outback with me for many miles.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she's here now to talk about her journey in business and also transitioning into beliefs and building businesses there and writing this brand new amazing book, which we're going to talk about today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the show, Donna.
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  SPEAKER_09: Thank you, Billy.
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  SPEAKER_09: I appreciate you.
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  SPEAKER_09: All right.
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  SPEAKER_09: And thank you for your guidance and your mentorship.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_09: I appreciate it.
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  SPEAKER_01: No problem.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's an honor.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you have been um on this journey for quite some time now.
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  SPEAKER_01: I remember seeing you in Egypt.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: What year was that?
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  SPEAKER_01: 23?
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  SPEAKER_09: 2024.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_09: 2024.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right, October of 2024.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_09: Right after you were sick.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
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  SPEAKER_09: I wanted to go to Turkey with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I got sick in Turkey.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um, and I I was like doing everything I could to not cancel that Egypt tour.
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  SPEAKER_09: I know, and I was so worried about it.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and I made it there.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: I made it too.
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  SPEAKER_09: But you did, and I was so proud of you that I don't know how you did, because you shouldn't have.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_09: To be honest, you shouldn't have.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: The people were relying on me, and I uh I think I was weighing 199 pounds when I got there, so I was just trying to hold it together.
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  SPEAKER_01: You did.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: You did.
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  SPEAKER_01: You've done a beautiful job.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you know, over the years you've been uh I've seen you at so many events, online workshop classes, you know, the academy, everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: What is the driving force behind, you know, your quest for this kind of knowledge and information?
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  SPEAKER_09: Um just trying to um understand this reality, you know, just understanding like why people behave the way they do.
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  SPEAKER_09: I've just kind of um went through um a transition of just working really hard my entire life and then waking up one day of like this is not my country.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_09: This is not the this is not the package that I that I was told, you know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_09: This is not the truth that I've been told to work hard and you know, um grind for everybody and you know at the end of the day, you're gonna be loved and and given that that same energy back.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, gotcha.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so let's go into a little bit of your history.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're coming out of uh Oklahoma, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when did you start your first business?
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  SPEAKER_01: Was it in Oklahoma?
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  SPEAKER_09: Yes, uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_09: I was um 20.
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  SPEAKER_09: My first real business, I mean, I had several businesses, stay-at-home mom businesses.
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  SPEAKER_09: I'd done toner cartridges, I done children's personalized books, I um done um McGruff um drug awareness programs within the schools that I got fundraising and stuff like that when I was when my children were in kindergarten, first and second grade.
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  SPEAKER_09: And then um I s I started a toner cartridge business that I sold re-manufactured toner cartridges because it was something I could do out of my home.
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  SPEAKER_09: I was um probably in a a relationship from a very young age.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_09: So there was a lot of control issues and you know, just not knowing how to behave.
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  SPEAKER_09: I didn't have an education and um and neither did he.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, um, and come from you know, very from people that did not have education.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_09: So um we just wasn't, you know, codependency and um sacrifice, self-sacrificing was just part of part of relationships, you know.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: Um didn't have no one to look for.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_09: So I've just always been a person that prayed and asked God for guidance.
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  SPEAKER_09: So I've just always been led through prayer.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: That that's all I knew.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_09: That's I had no one to guide me.
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  SPEAKER_09: So I've just always had a relationship with God and um Jesus, you know, yeah, as my friend because I, you know, had no one else to go to.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: So um the one thing that I I mean I just told myself and would tell was that you can't control, I mean, you might tell me I can't have friends, I can't be around my family, but you can't tell me I can't make money.
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  SPEAKER_09: You know, that just doesn't make any sense, you know.
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  SPEAKER_09: Like, you know, you can't tell me I can't go make money.
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  SPEAKER_09: So I always just figured out a way to um make money, you know, and I knew that was important.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_09: Even as a child growing up, we'd get a little um allowance and I would save two dollars and then spend the rest.
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  SPEAKER_09: I mean, like your story.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, I I so resonate with your your whole story is my story in a different person, in a different state, in a different environment, but the same story where we're where you're you know, where we're just resilient kids.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, we set out to say, like, huh, why do they have that?
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  SPEAKER_09: I think I can do that.
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  SPEAKER_09: Like, there's no reason why I can't do that if they're doing it.
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  SPEAKER_09: And the same thing is like, how can you tell me I can't make money?
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  SPEAKER_09: You know, if they can make money, I can make money, you know.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_09: If they can go to school, I can go to school.
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  SPEAKER_09: If they can learn that, I can learn that.
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  SPEAKER_09: You know, it's not a different story.
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  SPEAKER_09: Why is it different?
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  SPEAKER_09: You know, why can I not?
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_09: So I just would always just like, that's that doesn't make sense to me.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_09: You know, what you're telling me doesn't make sense.
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  SPEAKER_09: And I just looked at my whole family and friends and doing the same thing over and over.
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  SPEAKER_09: And and here I have two children, and I just want to be able to provide for my children and not depend on other people that are guiding me wrong.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_09: And I can see what everybody else is doing.
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  SPEAKER_09: So the only thing I knew was to do the opposite.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_09: You know, like I don't want to do what they're doing, so the only thing to do would be the opposite of what they do.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_09: So that's that's how I became who I am, is just the opposite of everyone else.
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  SPEAKER_09: So whatever the herd's doing, I'm gonna do the opposite.
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  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, y'all do this, I'm gonna go do this.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and when you got when you started your, you said like one of your most like solid, what you call quote unquote real business.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, not just little side hustle or something you came up with, which those are great too, but what was your very first business business?
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  SPEAKER_09: It was a staffing agency.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
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  SPEAKER_09: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_09: I I went to school to be a legal assistant, so I worked in the district attorney's office, and um I worked in um an attorney's office after the district attorney's office, which you know what, I was not, I was a redneck.
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  SPEAKER_09: I was uh from the other side of town, you know.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_09: So from I was from the neighborhood like you're where you fought.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_09: You didn't know.
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  SPEAKER_09: I mean, I you know, so I probably wasn't the right person to be in the district attorney's office or in the court clerk's office or in an attorney's office for that matter.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_09: But um, but I I did get hired, and I sometimes I feel like they hired me to punish the staff.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_09: Like, watch we're gonna hire you somebody.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_09: You want more staff?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_09: Let me show you this girl.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_09: So, but anyway, I I was very fortunate and got um I interned in the um court clerk's office, and then I got a job in the district attorney's office in child support.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_09: Um, so I did that for several years, and then um when I when I was no longer doing that, I got a job with the just the district attorney that hired me, um, hired me in her attorney's office later.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_09: And um she gave me the idea of telling me that she was hiring me as a temporary because she couldn't find a good temp through a temp agency.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_09: So boom, my higher self says, Donna, are you listening?
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and I said, Oh, you wanted a you needed a temp, but there's not one in Durant, and you had to go to Sherman and and you couldn't find something you needed.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_09: Is that not something that needs here?
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_09: You know, so my entrepreneur spirit was was like already screaming to me, and she had a nice location which with an upstairs building.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_09: And um I was just like, Well, if I went and done a business plan, would you would you open a staffing agency with me?
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_09: And of course everybody's like, yeah, Donna, you know, they don't take me, no one takes me seriously.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_09: And I'm just like, but my brain was like, but what if, but what if?
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_09: So I went to um do the business plan, said a month in the um um small business administration at our university, you know, and this was like in May, I think, of 1998.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_07: Wow.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and my kids were um, it was summer and um I so anyway, I went to the small business administration.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_09: They had never seen anybody, you know, I mean, no one ever went in there.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, here it's May, they get uh you have a professor sitting there all day at the small business administration with nothing to do because nobody knows to utilize these services.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_07: Wow.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_09: So I had his full attention to help me create a business plan for um takes on the business services.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_09: Um LLC is what it is.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and I got the business plan and I presented it to the attorney.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and of course, again, yeah, Donna, yeah, Donna.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_09: So um eventually I I just did it on my own.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I love that.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_09: I just did it on my own.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_09: I went to pay my insurance and there was a look for a rent sign um at my insurance office for the next door, and I went in there and said, you know, hi, how much is the rent there?
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_09: And and this is just three blocks from my house where I could walk to work if I needed to.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_09: And um, they said it was$250,$250 a month.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_09: And I'm like, would can I post date this check until September when my children go to school?
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_09: So I because I didn't have a babysitter.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_09: And um they said sure.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_09: So I had a postdated check for$250 is how I started my agency with a post-dated check.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_09: Wow.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and then so I have the office and then and I have the business plan, and then I got a newsletter and uh in the mail.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_09: And because I wrote it, because they say, Oh, you need to become a member of the National Association of Secretarial Services.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_09: You got to become a member of the um Chamber of Commerce.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_09: So I I did all these things, you know.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_09: So I'm manifesting this um staffing agency.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_09: I really don't even know what a staffing agency is to begin with, until I go and create, you know, go and do the business plan.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_09: And I found out, oh my God, that's a lucrative business.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, and I call around and do um learn about it, and like everybody, oh, it's very lucrative.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, it's very lucrative.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_09: I don't I have to look up the word lucrative.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_09: So I'm gonna look, oh, huh, lucrative.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that's exactly what I want for.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_09: Abundance.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_09: Abundance, yes, lucrative.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_09: It means abundant.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_09: And um, so what happened was I got my first um newsletter in the mail.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_09: Um, it was from the National Association of Secretariat Services, but an ad on the back of it was, do you want to start a staffing agency?
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_09: Thank you, God.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, I want to start a staffing agency.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_09: And so I called the number and I get on the phone with these people and they're telling me their whole marketing spill.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_09: It's a company out of New York City, you know, get a rope.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_09: Um, so then I um called the number and I and they're giving me their spill.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_09: And um and they're saying, Well, Miss Pal, we would love to sign you up.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_09: You know, it's two thousand dollars.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, two thousand dollars?
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I don't have two thousand dollars.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_09: They're like, Miss Powell, how much money do you have?
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_09: The only thing that popped in my head was that post-aided two hundred and fifty dollar check.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I have two hundred and fifty dollars, you know.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_09: And they say, Miss Powell, send us that two hundred and fifty dollars.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_09: We're gonna, we're gonna come and help you.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_09: So I sent them the two hundred and fifty dollars.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_09: They sent me a box this big of binders upon binders upon binders, because you know what we had eight megabytes on a floppy drive.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Back in the day.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_09: On a floppy, so they didn't send that much information.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_09: So I got these binders and they said, read all these binders, you know.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_09: So I read every binder and they gave me a a list of stuff I needed to do.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_09: I needed to um there's three things that I had to do.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_09: Number one, I had to um get all these supplies that I needed and have my office.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_09: And number two, I needed to set up appointments for interviews.
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  SPEAKER_09: And then number three, I needed to call companies and get up um uh meetings to um try to get their business.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_09: So then a lady, her name was Debbie Golden.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_09: Still doesn't remember.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_09: They flew her for the two, I mean 1998 flew her to Oklahoma, rented her hotel room, and she came and she helped me set up my office.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_09: She taught me how to do interviews, and she went and helped me get my first clients.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, amazing.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_09: Amazing for$250.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_09: You know, I paid$250 for 10 years in that office.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_09: That's not even an electric bill.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's just that's mind blowing.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_09: It's just my I mean, my I mean, it's just mind blowing.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and I still own that business 27.7 years later.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: You still own the business?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_09: I still work there every day.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_09: My desk, the same desk that I bought then.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_09: Uh-huh.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, so so then I need office furniture, right?
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_09: I don't have any office furniture.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_09: We have a um our old hospital in my town was being renovated into the elementary school.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_09: I'd been sitting there vacant forever.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_09: And they turned it into um our intermediate school.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_09: Well, they needed to auction off all that old furniture from that hospital right before I was opening.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_09: I bought all my furniture for$12.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_09: Wow.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_09: I still set the same desk 27 years for the desk and the furniture that I have is the same furniture from 1998 that I bought at that auction for$12.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: This is an incredible manifestation.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: This is incredible.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_09: Completely, you know, and um, and that and that business has given me the um, you know, and but my prayer, the prayer was is that I never wanted to depend on anybody.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_09: Um, and I wanted to make my own money, but I needed, I wanted to be a good provider for my children and still be a good mother.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_09: I did not want, I mean, that's where the manifest came was my prayer every night was to um to to give me a job that I would be a good provider for my family and still be a good mother.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know what really intrigues me about this story, because it's my first time hearing this story uh uh from you.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: And one of the things I talk about in my mentoring programs, uh, when people come to me for the one-on-one mentoring, the first thing I tell them is let me see your business plan.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll let you give it to you.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: 99% of the time they do not have a business plan, they never even thought about a business plan, haven't written a business plan, don't know how to make a business plan.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the first thing you actually need.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_07: You have to.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: Because you discover the business model.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: You discover if it's lucrative, or maybe you discover it's not lucrative.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_09: And you also have to think about the insurance cost.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_09: You got to think about, you know, I mean, things that most people creating a business will never even think about.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_09: You know, workers' comp.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, in a staffing agency, there are so many, and people as employees don't even have a clue what the business owner has to pay to have them on their location working.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_09: You know, and and so everyone's like, oh, you make so much money.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I do make good money, but there's a lot of liability in me making this money.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_09: A lot of expenses have to go out to cover that liability.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_09: A lot of expenses.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_09: And in the staffing industry, you might not see a payment for 90 days, but you're paying these people for for months.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, you're out 20 people's salary making$20 an hour plus all the expenses that go in go into that$20 an hour in liabilities, you know, and then I might not see that$45,000 that I already spent the money on six months ago.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_09: And then what if they go out of business before I get that$45,000?
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_09: I've already paid that staff.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_09: And that's not something that you can when they file bankruptcy.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_09: I'm a vendor.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not an employee.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_09: I don't have access to that money.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not in that first line of people.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_09: So, you know, the money that I make is me taking on a lot of liability.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_09: And trust me, I had two businesses go out of business on me, one owing me$54,000 in the beginning, and one owing me$27,000.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_09: And this is before I don't even know how to do collections.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_09: Right, right.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_09: Wow.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's incredible.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, before I even know how to do collections, when I'm too scared to ask.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that just shows that starting a business is always risk involved.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_09: So much risk.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: But if you don't, or if you're not willing to take the risk, you're never going to get the reward, right?
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to leverage the risk versus reward, and you have to evaluate how much of a risk is this versus how much of a potential reward, and how can I uh how can I um hedge against some of the risk.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to have a certain amount of clients, you have to understand a certain amount of um uh vendor uh invoices that are going out, a potential understanding some of these might not get paid on time.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: How do I keep the float going?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's a lot of things to be an entrepreneur, right?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_09: So I'm especially when you're a multi um entrepreneur like yourself and I, you know, because then you're and then you get so here you you're creating this business, and then you're getting this crazy idea on this next one when this one isn't even going.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_09: And then so then now you're you're um yeah, you know, playing this game of yeah, you know, and they say, Well, do you need multi-different um income streams to to even make it?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_09: So when this one's lowering, you need to be one that's that's raising, and when this one's raising, you know, this one is lowering.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_09: So you gotta position yourself to where when one's slow season, then the next one's coming up.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_09: And then when this one's slow season, then the next one's coming up.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_09: But you can't have two high seasons at the same time, right?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: Or you will not so script you too thin.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_09: So you gotta structure.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_09: So if you are a multi-dimensional person, which like you and myself are, and then people are wondering, like, how do y'all do all that?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_09: Well, because we're don't think in We're not thinking linear.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_09: We're not thinking linear, we're thinking multidimensional, even if we didn't realize it at the time that we were multidimensional people and understanding things that we weren't supposed to understand that we understood as you as a child and as me as a child, right?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_09: When you just wake up and you're like, why is everybody behaving this way?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_09: Right, right.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_09: You could see it in your family, I could see it in mine.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_09: It's like none of this makes any sense, you know, and you're just sitting there watching everybody wondering, yeah.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not from here and I'm not from this world.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_09: And you just sit there alone wondering, why is nobody else seeing all this mess?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_09: Right, right.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what set us on our journey.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: So you you create this staffing business, which is still running today, 27 years later.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: What was your next business after that?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_09: Um, my next business is let's see, I had the toner cartridge business and the children's personalized books, um, which I kept that toner cartridge business for 15 years.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a great business.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, lots of very lucrative money.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_09: I did not even realize how lucrative what I would do, and I still have the same clients and that and they're still my friends.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_09: Those people, those guys that would um, my FedEx guy and um the my client, which was the hospital in my town, which is my favorite people, favorite people that watched me grow from nothing.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, they watched me every day, every day go from this bait two babies on my hips to get my FedEx guy delivered my cartridges.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I packaged those cartridges up and I delivered on to the hospital.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_09: And those two guys were actually went to the same school together that I learned about later, and they just witnessed me.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_09: You know, they both witnessed my they witnessed me.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_09: Um, and they're still my friends to this day.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's amazing.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: And um that's a great business to be in the yes.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: People don't realize the toner cartridge business is still huge, you know.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_09: Still huge.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, it's a it's a it's a like residual income.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_09: It's residual, and they have to, and it's just money going out, you know.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, you know, and and they're gonna be a good thing.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's an expense.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's an expense.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_09: And it's an expense.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_09: But when the when the re recycled and remanufactured industry started, I mean, I would buy a cartridge for$35 and sell them for$135.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_09: And all I did was set them on a shelf.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they brought them to me, yeah, boom, and I made$100.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yeah, so great.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I just had to re replenish my laser uh printer cartridges upstairs.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: I think I spent$450 for, and those are the you know, those aren't the factory, those are the the ones that you sold.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, the remanufacture one.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_09: I I got this um again something that came in the mail because God has always spoken to me through the newspaper, through the mail, newsletter.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_09: I've just been one that watched, I know that he's talking to me and directing me, but you have to watch and be pay attention that because he's telling us all what to do, giving us all these signs.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_09: So um, I was gonna actually try to remanufacture myself.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I would get these magazines um on um home based businesses.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_09: They'd come in the mail, you know, and I would order these magazines.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_09: So I'd go through there looking at these home based businesses and the toner cartridge was one.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_09: So I was gonna do this self, but then there was a company that said they would repackage it with your Name on it, give you brochures and everything.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_09: So that's what I did is I got with this company.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_09: I bought them from them.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_09: They repackaged them with my company name, gave me the brochures, which then I went and held out.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_09: And again, I my I only needed one good company.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_09: Which was the hospital.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's great.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_09: And what he and he fought for me for 15 years, fought for me for 15 years to keep me as his client.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_09: Wow.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_09: But see, they only had a small area to keep store everything in the hospital.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_09: So once I would store them for him, that gave him space in material management.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_09: Nice.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_09: You know, so then and I could be the same, they didn't have same-day delivery.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: Back in those days.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: And just come drop it off.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: Boom.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: Here you go.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: You need it.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: Here it goes.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_09: So I had same-day delivery when that was before it was a thing.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_09: So I would store the cartridges that he needed.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_09: And these are big cartridges for big printing in a hospital.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_09: So for 15 years, you know.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_09: And also he was my counselor.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_09: You know, when I would go in there, I mean, we would talk for hours and hours, you know, delivering that cartridge.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_09: So I knew I was going to see him when my life was crazy.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_09: I had somebody that just would counsel me.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_09: You know, so I delivered the cartridge and we would start talking just like for now.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_09: And three hours later, like, I'm sorry, I'm gonna go.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_09: You know, sorry, I'm gonna go.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, so I was gonna ask you that from that business, how did you expand into Texas and start this other uh uh business?
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I have not had a business.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_09: Well, oh well, actually I did.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_09: I'm sorry.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, I'm so I was like, whoa, I for Texas.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_09: I I um okay, so let's see.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_09: I was um we had a new the um those ladies workout express what was the first one?
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_09: Um Lady of America's or that that was the one that I bought, but um not it was all over the place.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_09: Anyway, it was the first ladies um workout ex the first ladies only um workout place.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_09: Why cannot think of the name?
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_09: Sorry.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_07: That's okay.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_09: Um so anyway, that came into our town and like they people are lined up down the street to get to do this little circuit training.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_09: Uh-huh.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_09: And um I'm not thinking of that name.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and and it was fun, you know, and and you just done the little circuit training and it was like on the rave.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, everybody was um doing the um the circuit.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like a hit workout or something?
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: Or yeah, I'm just I don't I never heard of anything being all women before Lady of America.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: That was the only one I ever knew.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_09: Right, but they uh I think they copied this one.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_09: They they copied it for they did have ladies of America, but I think they copied this one, or maybe they got it from them.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_09: But the one was um I'm gonna remember the name.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: It'll come to you now.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_09: But um, so I saw this and I was like, huh.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_09: I was very interested in um purchasing it.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_09: So I done research and I found Ladies of America Corporation from here in Miami or Fort Lauderdale, I think it is, and um, and I came on a um on a discovery tour and um and and I bought into the franchise.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and I and I found a facility um next to Walmart and um Radio Shack at the time.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, Radio Shack.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_09: Oh my god, Radio Shack.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_09: Do you know that I would go in there and they always have what I need?
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: That was a great place to go.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: And little store and they had the most out-of-place objects that you just like, well, if I go to Radio Shack, it's gotta be there.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_09: It's and they would be there, and it would be there, it would be there, and you're like this little store, but but Radio Shack, and it was like next door.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_09: Um, so I got a really a prime location, you know, and I um, you know, me, I'm one that wants to give everything away.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_09: So I came up with really great ideas.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_09: I had hydro massage and tanning and um the sauna, and I packaged it up to where it would be you got if you signed up for every year that you signed up for my gym, you would get one of these services for free.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, you know, and um so everybody I signed up for three years.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_09: Wow, you know, for each year you get one service free, and they would just sign up for the three years because they wanted those free services, you know.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_09: So I ended up becoming number two club in Texas.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_09: Wow, you know, and um and was part of that for five years.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_09: Um, but then I wanted to go home.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_09: I didn't want to stay in that franchise, so I canceled the franchise and I just opened my own little club in Texas.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, in back in Oklahoma.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_09: I bought a building and um put my staffing agency in one side and put the gym in the other side in.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_09: And I made two entrances to where when you walked in one or the other, I would be the first person you would see when you came in.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_09: So I was, and that's how I've always done my businesses.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I just barely learned to not be the first person in the last four years of my life that I had to sit down and and that and my my third book is about that.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_09: It will tell you all about the story and you know, when God put me by the pond.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_09: You know, that I have four waters that I've set beside and and learned through um this transition, my nine-year journey of um awakening, you know, which my book is called A Game Awakening to Ascension, right, you know, is when I woke and and and then the ascension process because it's not easy.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, when you wake up to the game and you have to learn how to play it because now you have a whole new set of rules because that you did not know were there.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_09: And it's it's it's a it's a journey.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but um I did not learn until this journey how not to stop, just like you, you know what I'm saying?
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_09: How it's still you have not learned to stop.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_09: And and most people don't know how to stop because from our ancestral wounding, you know, we are our DNA tells us we can't stop.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_09: And we don't know how, and just turn that switch off, which is my books teach you right how to turn that switch off through near um through science, through spirituality, you know, through I mean several different idea forms, you know, to where you can see it's not just me saying this, I can show you where everybody else is saying the same thing.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_09: They're just using different language.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_09: And um exactly.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's go into first before we get to that.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: So now you're how did you end up in beliefs?
• 28:46
  unknown: Okay.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_09: Well, that's where the spiritual journey began.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_09: That's when the awakening became was because on November 8th, 2016, I sat there after watching, you know, the the election, you know, and the going up the day that I saw the per um president of the United States, the future president of the United States go down the escalator, um, putting his bid in for the presidency, you know, I was triggered.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_09: My switch turned on and um I became fearful.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_09: Um after 2008 and the financial crisis, you know, and then then, you know, I thought Obama, I I thought we were never going back.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_09: The election happened at seven o'clock.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_09: My higher self, my God, my spirit said, Donna, it's over.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_09: He's gonna be elected.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_09: And I went to my friends and I, you know, we're all in the you know, Chad and everything.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, it's done.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, and I can show you goose finds that my hair's standing straight on, you know, it's done.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_09: And they're like, oh no, you gotta wait till the morning.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_09: You know what?
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_09: We I'm like, God already told me it's done.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_09: So I went to prayer and I just said, Where do I go?
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, my neighbors, my friends, my family all voted for this person.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_09: And he and and I'm scared.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_09: So it kind of activated my witch wound, you know, it my ancestral, you know, of being burned at the stake of that they're coming after me.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_09: They know I'm a Democrat.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, they know that, you know, they know, and I'm uh I'm at the end of the road.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, there's nowhere to go.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_09: I'm on the cul-de-sac, you know, like it all ends with me.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_09: And my witch wound was activated.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, and I was in fight or flight.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, where do I go?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_09: And so I went into prayer and I asked God, where'd I go?
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_09: And he said, Belize.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, no, Donna.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, if you want to be safe, you better go to Belize.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_09: But I Googled it.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_09: And um, Belize, and the first thing that pops up is English-speaking country.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_09: And then it said that, and then plus I'm an entrepreneur and I'm a workaholic.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_09: So I I'm not even foreseeing that I can run my business in the US in Belize.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, that's not even on my um your radar.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_09: Your radar.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_09: That's not even on my radar that you can work from your phone.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, I've been on a landline and on a phone, yeah, yeah, you know, plugged in in a metal desk.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_09: And um, so when it said you could own businesses and that you could retire there at 45, you know, and I'm like, oh, oh, oh, it's tied to the UST.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, you know, oh, um, Queen Elizabeth's on their dollars.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_09: It, you know, like you're like, oh, check mark, check mark, check mark.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, check mark.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_09: So I'm sorry.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_09: Um, so then I started like, well, now um, you know, I'm a workaholic, so what do I need a business?
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_09: So I started looking up businesses and beliefs, and this old apartment um just kept coming up, you know, coming up, and God would tell me, it's that's your that's your business, Fona.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_09: You need to turn it into a boutique hotel.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_09: My daughter's traveling all over the world.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_09: She's in Jordan, she's in Bosnia, she's in El Salvador, you know, working at hostels and um working for free, you know, and and and and that popped in my mind that she would be protected there.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_09: Not only would I be protected, my daughter would be protected instead of traveling the world, giving her um her master, her degrees away for free, yeah, that she could come in and run this um hotel with me.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_09: So um she came home in February, and then we for my birthday went to Belize to look at this um old apartment.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_09: Now, once I got there, I really didn't look at it very because I I felt like I was intruding on it because it was a local apartment where locals lived and you know, and and it was it was just a mess.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it was a mess, you know, and I felt like I was invading their privacy, you know, everything was dark, water running, yeah, you know, water dripping everywhere, you know, no good lighting, no nothing.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_09: So I mean I we did not, there was nothing we could see because there was lots of people in these in this building.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_09: Um I took myself, my daughter, my boyfriend at the time, and then I had our best friend, mine and my boyfriend's best friend, um ran a um resort.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_09: And he went with us too to investigate it with me.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_09: And they both said no, that they didn't, that they did not recommend me doing this.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_09: Um and my by the time we got back, my daughter was a Fulbright.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_09: Um, she had applied to be a Fulbright scholar, and and she told me, I want to do it with you, Mom, but if I win the Fulbright, that's my dream.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and that's what I'm gonna do.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_09: And I'm like, the thought I I did not um I bet against her probably, you know, in reality, that she wasn't gonna win the Fulbright, and that we would go on to start this this hotel.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_09: So um I signed the contract, found the money, um, and we went.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_09: And she did win the Fulbright, so she left.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_09: And but that's what got me there is um just my witch room being activated.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_09: And um, I mean, it's a big long story, you not enough time to tell the whole story, but yeah, that's how I got there was that God told God told me to go and I'm the obedient.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_01: And you you yep, you turned that so you converted that apartment building into a boutique hotel.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, mm-hmm.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, the most popular boutique hotel in San Pedro.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, wow, amazing.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: And uh were you there during the pandemic?
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, I was there um during the pandemic.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_09: In fact, you know, during that that same three years, because it we started in 2017, yeah.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_09: Actually, they would tell me that I could not get open.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_09: It would take me two years just to get open.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_09: And much less renovated.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_09: They would take me two years to renovate it and then possibly four years to get open and be producing.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_09: I had it um, I had it gutted, rebuilt, and open in October.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_09: I put I purchased the build the building May 15th, 2017.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_09: Um, that same day we went to go turn on my phones, mine and my daughter.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_09: And I my I got a phone call on my phone while we were turning on her phone um from my doctor saying I had cancer.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_09: And that I needed to get home and that I needed cancer treatment.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_09: So like I just signed my life away to get out of the U.S.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and then there goes that, you know, Matrix.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_09: There comes the Matrix, gonna suck me back into the game, you know, and I'm getting out of the game and trying to get out of the game and get into another country, but I get sucked right back in the game.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_09: So I so I'm sick for three years because of just but I'm waking up, you know, and I and over these three years I'm getting stripped of every label, just like it says.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_09: Uh-huh.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_09: Just like it says is gonna happen.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, it's 100% true how they tell you it's gonna happen.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_09: That you I mean, it's it's just 100% true.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_09: It none of it's a lie.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_09: If you decide to wake up, you are gonna lose everything.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_09: You're gonna lose every label, you're gonna lose your health, you're gonna lose everything, you know.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: And you well, when you rebuild, you appreciate it more.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_09: Uh 100%.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_09: Oh my gosh.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_09: And and the people that you lose are the people you needed to lose.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_09: You know, and you realize the people that was really holding you back all along that you were actually paying their bills, yeah, giving them your love, giving them your energy to know that once you're sick and um and you have to learn to say no, yeah, that they're not gonna be there.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they're gonna be gone.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, they're gonna vanish immediately.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and and they don't care.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_09: They're they're gonna leave you for the wolves.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: They will leave you for the wolves.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Not everybody's meant to go on the journey that we're on.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, I often uh compare it to um a space shuttle taking off.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: They had two booster rockets, right?
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: But when that space shuttle gets to a certain height, those boosters fall off and fall back to Earth and you keep going.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_09: You keep going.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: And uh that's because those boosters were not meant to head into this place, the heights that you're going to.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, it it hurts a little bit, obviously, you know.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_07: Oh no.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it hurts, but it hurts.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it hurts.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: But you have to realize if you realize and reflect on it and realize that everyone's on their own path to enlightenment.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone's there's 101 ways to enlightenment, and um not everyone's on the journey that you're on.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so it's it does hurt though, looking back and reflecting, because I have been through the same situation.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh gosh.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: Identical situation, you know, not cancer, but something else.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: And then having to realize that when you needed people the most, the people who you thought would be there just weren't there, you know.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: They weren't.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: And so just You had no remorse.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no remorse about it.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: Just very interesting, right?
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: So so now you've got this uh this boutique hotel.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, now you got the cancer, you're fighting that.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: How do you how was it that you came through this cancer?
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: How did you get out of it?
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: How did you beat this?
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_09: I cannot tell you.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I I cannot tell you.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_09: I've just always been guided, and I'm just so fortunate, so fortunate that I've always been led by spirit, which is I don't know if that's my higher self, if that's um Arcturians, if that's you know, aliens out there.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know, but I know that I've trusted Jesus and I and I'm a Jesus freak.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_09: I'm I mean, he is my best friend, he is my savior, and he is my brother.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and um, and he is my mentor, right?
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_09: Um, he's my teacher.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, and that's all I can do is I just I reflect back on what Jesus says, and nobody gonna tell me any different.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_09: I'm only gonna listen to what Jesus says.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_09: And when I listen to Jesus and what he actually has written and read, I don't care what anybody else says because that's not my problem.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_09: But what Jesus wrote and read, that's what I go by.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_09: And he has never left me or forsake me.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, and that it and when I go.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: So that was like your spiritual companion through this whole thing because you didn't have really anybody technically, but you had that spiritual companion there with you to help guide you through and be there to support you to keep you hope.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_09: Grounded, keep keep me in hope, you know, and and and I can show you just like the hair standing up on my arms just right here is that that from since I was a child, you know, he just, you know what, don't go there and don't don't listen to what they're saying.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_09: You know, protect your sister, you know, tell them the truth, you know, and when and and I was very aware as a child, so I knew when things were not right, and and I was also a truth speaker, so I was probably in a lot of trouble most of the time.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: We're always in getting in trouble.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: We're always all the I remember I got I got uh sent down to the office and almost completely kicked out of school, but they suspended me instead for they said that I was inciting a riot.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: Junior high school.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, you know, just because I was t giving the teacher a lesson on the uh Pledge of Allegiance, but whatever.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I've been through it.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_09: Um, we're always blamed.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_09: I know that they're just like, I'm the only one working, but I'm still at fault.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_09: I'm the only one bringing money in and staying consistent, yeah, yeah, but I'm still the problem.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_09: I know.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_09: And that's when you start waking up.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_09: It's like, yeah, how am I always the problem?
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just it's the the people they get entitled.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they want to be fair weather friends, they want to be around when things are good, but when things are not going good, they want to, you know, they'll they'll fade into dark.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_05: Quick.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's what it is.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_01: So you so now you've you come out of this, um, you come out of this uh this cancer with all your spiritual spiritual support, and you find your way, you make your way back to beliefs.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I'm going back and forth.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_09: I have to run this whole show.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh goodness.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_09: I have to run the whole show.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_09: My daughter's in now and hungry.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, she was there for three months to help me get the project started, and then she was gone.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_09: She did not look back.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_09: She she had her own life and she told me she was gonna choose her life.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_09: And she ended up getting married to our college boyfriend at the time.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_09: So I I mean, to me, when you get married, yeah, she's gone.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_09: You do what your husband wants you to do.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, that's where I that's where I was raised.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_09: And that's I mean, my mind thinking that she's not coming back.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_09: I'm on my own.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_09: And um, I just sunk all my money, I'm sick, yeah, I have nobody on my side.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_09: In fact, the people that I'm thinking even in beliefs that are for me are really against me.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, so I'm really, I mean, I'm just under spiritual attack.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_07: Right, right.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_09: Um, and then in 2018, I'm finally getting better.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_09: You know, my health-wise is finally getting better.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_09: So that whole 2018, I'm fighting with my me and my son is fighting to to keep custody of my grandson.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_09: You know, so we spent a whole year in the courts just trying to make sure that we can retain a relationship with my grandson.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_09: Um, and then, and then all of a sudden, here the matrix is trying to, I'm fixing it to pull out, and then the matrix trying to suck me back in.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_09: I get calls from all over Oklahoma for me to run for Oklahoma state representative.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_09: Me, Donna.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_07: Right, right.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, the governor, um, everyone's, oh, I got a free campaign.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_09: Um, huh?
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_09: I'm just getting over cancer and trying to pull out of this fighting, and then all of a sudden I'm qualified to run for Oklahoma State Representative.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_09: Again, this, you know, and of course, when my boyfriend's hearing this after all, you know, he's like, Donna, please don't do that.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, I'm not gonna do that.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, I'm going to Belize.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: That'll bring the cancer back.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_09: 100%.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, I'm I'm just barely getting out of this um this trench, you know, out of this war zone.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and y'all gonna pull me back into it, but they wanted to pull me back into it.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_09: They sure didn't make it enticing.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, my phone's just ringing.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_09: My assistant can tell you, my phone is ringing.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_09: And the people that are in Belize that are um actually fighting against it, oh, you should do that.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, that's what I've always I mean, like even them are like they're trying to get it.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, get it, yeah, get sucked back into that matrix.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they yeah, exactly.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, now you you get down there, obviously.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: So this is completely new territory.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, when did it dawn on you that you you realize, okay, it's time for me to start laying out the groundwork to write this book that, you know.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_09: Well, that that was that was, I mean, people have always told me my whole life that I need to tell my story, you know, because everybody knows that my story is 100% true.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_09: And I mean, it completely validated through tax returns, through um, you know, leases and through employees.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, you can't go anywhere that doesn't, that would not tell you, oh gosh, don't you need to tell your story.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_09: And just my just my family story before it even gets to me is you know, within my mother in my in my family is a whole book in itself that has been written about.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_09: Um because I mean, that's just a journey in itself.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_09: Um, so I always knew that I was to write a book because I mean, people have always told me that, yeah.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_09: And I always knew I would.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_09: I did not know that it would be the book that I'm gonna write that I wrote, or that I was gonna be given the transmission that I was given.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_09: Um, that took and that took years later, you know.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_09: That was that was, you know, during COVID, I had I had premonitions, you know, to tell people get your passport that there's gonna be a last plane.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_09: God told me to create this place, that this is why I'm sent here.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_09: Um and I would tell my friends and family, I can't, I can't get your passport for you.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_09: But I can do is create a place for you to go when things go bad.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_09: And for some reason, I would say, when when I tell you there's a last plane, you better be on that last plane.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_09: And um, three years later, there was a last plane.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, there was actually a last plane, and I was on, and I was on it.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_09: Wow.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_09: I was barely on it.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_09: So you made it to that last plane.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_09: I barely, you know, when I was sitting there like they kept canceling my flight.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, I'm sorry, God.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_09: I'm sorry, God, you know, like because they kept canceling it, canceling, canceling, canceling till in the end, there was only 30 people on my plane.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_09: Wow.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and this is spring break.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_09: And this is at DFW um Love Feed.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_09: Everything is maxed out, and there's there's nobody there.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_09: You're walking through um immigration, you're walking through everything, and you're not allowed to cough because if you cough, people are gonna freak out.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, if you cough, I remember back then, if you cough one time at the airport, it's over.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you're scared to death of needing anything.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_01: I had to cough one time during this whole pandemic thing, and I was like, I was trying to hold this thing in like you wouldn't.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_01: I started sweating.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yes, that's I was just remembering, I just started sweating thinking about it.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_08: That you're sitting on a plane with 30 people and you're just like, if I breathe, I'm gonna be crucified.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_08: Right, right.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_01: Right, I remember.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_01: You make it to uh so you make it to Belize.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: I remember that that day clearly because that was the same day or versus around that time frame that I was lifting off from Australia.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: I canceled my New Zealand trip, and as my plane was taken off, I get a text message.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: We're only like maybe, I don't know, a hundred feet off the ground.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it comes in from uh my friends in Australia saying they just shut down Australia.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: I would have been stuck there for months, you know.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh Australia was very strict with with Oh, they were the strictest.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_01: They were just they were crazy.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: I heard they were they were beating people down for not wearing a mask in the street.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: The cops were uh it was pretty brutal.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_09: Especially in big areas, and Belize was very, they were very, very strict because they have a small population and not the medical facilities.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_09: So they were very, very strict, and I appreciated the strictness.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_09: Um, but also I was ended up being in the jungle in a in an area which was the best time of my life.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_09: I was I reparented myself.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_09: Nice.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_09: I was able cut off from the world, cut off from everybody, and I got God gave me 30 acres to just go work, plant the field, you know, and to work with um indigenous people to be around people that done their done their laundry in the river, yeah, that gathered sticks every day and cooked their rice, and and they included me into this.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_09: You know what?
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_09: When when my life had gone to hell.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_09: In a handbasket, you know, and I nothing that I had seen was anything from 2017 till 2020.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_09: There was nothing in my life that was the same.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_09: Everything had been stripped from me.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_07: Wow.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_09: My grandchild.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, my my my name.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_09: My whole identity.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_09: You know, uh, a boyfriend I had for 12 years that I loved and wanted to marry.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, I had a big, beautiful home.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_09: I I mean, people were at my house in the pool.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_09: I had big parties.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_09: We went on big vacations.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, in 2017, I mean, we done my my my trip of I wanted to go to Greece was my bucket list trip and go to Matoria and all these wonderful places.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_09: And I we got to go do that.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_09: You know, and um you know what?
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_09: But day by day, things just was being stripped of me because in that same 2016 during the election, I started being aware that well, a friend tell me, I mean, we were partying and having a good time, big barbecue at my house, and she said, Oh Donna, people either love you or they hate you.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_09: I said, What wait a minute, what did you say to me?
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, oh you know, people either love you or they hate you.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_09: I said, people hate me?
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, they hate me?
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_09: And she said, Oh yeah, you like it was casual.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_09: And I'm like, all I do is work and provide.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_09: And people hate me.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean that that was just like one of those That's pretty it's pretty normal for anyone who's achieving any level of perceived success.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna have the lovers, the cheerleaders, and you're also gonna have the haters.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's guaranteed.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_09: And it and it is, and I was never aware of it.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, I was just oblivious.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_09: I just worked, I was just on auto pilot, working, working, working, working.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_09: Five jobs, taking care of everybody, making sure they had their car, making sure that they had a place to live.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_09: And if and if and if it was something that somebody needed, I created the business to provide it.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_01: So we're we're problem solvers.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but what happens is, Donna, is this they see your power, but they don't want it to exist.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not that it's you, it's that it's you and not them.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_09: That's right.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_01: And they don't have the wherewithal, they don't have the energy, they don't have the downloads, they don't have the spiritual connection, they don't have the resources, they don't have the consciousness to even begin to create the beginning of what you're able to accomplish.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and so that irks them and it creates this um this envy which turns into anger.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: And that anger turns into frustration, and then they become haters and trolls.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_09: That's right.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: In in the real world, not even in the cyber world.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_09: I can't even imagine, you know what?
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_09: Luckily, I'm so protected, nobody comes against me on the internet.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_09: Because I'm so protected, you know, and they used to.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_09: But you you can go on my Facebook, I can say whatever I say, and you don't see anybody goes into my comments because they know, I mean, I believe, I guess they know my power and I'm protected.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but that not at that time, you know, not at that time.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_09: I had everybody on me, you know, how you know, because they're all Trump supporters in here.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not this is, you know, instead of being the black friend, being the Asian friend, this is my Democrat friend.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_09: But she's okay.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, so I'm introduced as the Democrat friend.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_09: I'm introduced as the one, but she's okay.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_09: She's okay.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_09: And then of course, especially the moment I walk any place, they want to start debating me and then saying it's me debating them.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_09: I'm like, I did not even bring any of this up.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_09: I I don't want to fight anybody.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, that's because the the the polytrickster brain takes over.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's really the Agent Smith effect where Agent Smith pops into their body and is wanting to continuously create this divide and conquer energy so that everyone's always at odds instead of collaborating and just working together.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so the book, let's get back to the book.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: So you're in this jungle now, you're completely disconnected from everything.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_01: You're finding yourself, you're gaining back your center and your groundedness.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: You got this 30 acres.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and now, you know, let's talk about the game.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_09: Well, to begin with, during COVID, and I was on lockdown in San Pedro, and I was in the safest place during those whole three years from 2017 to 2020.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_09: When I would be in Belize, I'd go to the pier and I would watch the sunrise.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_09: I'm a sunrise and sunset person.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_09: I spend my time, and that's very important time to me.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_09: And I and I would just pray and ask, you know, ask for direction.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_09: I've that's what I've always done, just ask, I don't know.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_09: I need direction.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_09: And then one day I'm fine, I'm out on that pier and I just say, Fine God, I'm in the safest place in the world.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you you succeeded.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_09: I'm here.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_09: Now what?
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_09: And and he just gave me this big download, and it was just like this, and then this and this and this, and I'm like, whoa, I saw this picture like you would not even believe of, you know, um uh pharmaceutical company, you know, that we were make um growing hemp and and all these different product lines that um that would be healthy product lines that would be packaged in Belize, you know, all natural products, all natural packaging, um all the models, you know, this whole company that would be completely sourced in Belize.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah um the people, the the food, the products, medicine plants, and everything.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, uh-huh.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_09: So the moment um I was able to get off the because we were on lockdown, you know, I I already looked for a truck, you know, I was looking for a camper.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_09: There's no campers in Belize, none.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_09: And then all of a sudden, the day before I can get on the water taxi, all of a sudden this brand new um three slide-out fifth wheel it pops up on the marketplace.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_09: And um so I'm like, oh my gosh, thank you.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_09: You know, thank you, God.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_09: And then so I start negotiating the deal on that.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_09: So I get off the water taxi, I have five trucks waiting there for me, and I test drive them, and they're like, no, those aren't imp God.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_09: And then boom, go to the marketplace.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_09: Here's a Ford Explorer truck.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_09: So I go look at like, yes, this is my truck.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_09: So I I pay cash for that truck, and I'm on my way to go get this motor home.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, this um fifth wheel travel trailer.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_09: And um, I meet my friends, but I before that, I was me and two other friends was buying 27 acres in the south on City River, and um, and I had already booked a stay there for seven days um to stay on that property because they had a rental property there that we were purchasing that we already had a contract on.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_09: Um, so I got there and then the next day, friends that I'd met through tourism who were my tour guides that's gonna help me with my tour company, um, met me there, and then we all went to the PG area and looked at the camper.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_09: And then um I purchased it and we negotiated it, and then that's where I get to the farm.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_09: Is um so then I have that's not the land that I end up buying.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_09: I ended up buying three acres on the other side of the Sity River, which is now the Maya Cocoon, Gateway to Eden.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_09: And um we named it, we didn't name it Gateway to Eden at the time, we named it the Maya Cocoon.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_09: And um and we and I God had told me to hire well let me go back.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_09: Let me get a drink.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_09: So for 20 years, I owned a staffing agency, and people would always say, Um, I need a job, I need a job.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_09: And I would tell them, I don't create jobs, I just fill them.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_09: You know, I I can get you in the back door of another job, but you know, I I can get you in, but it's not my I I don't create jobs, I just fill them.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_09: And um, so when I got that download, God said, You're gonna create jobs.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_09: You're gonna go create jobs.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_09: That's what you're here for.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_09: So, and so he told me, you know, so it's just crazy after 20 something years, um you don't fill jobs anymore, you're gonna be a job creator.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_09: So then, so then he told me, go create jobs.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_09: And um, I got the PPP money, which was$330,000, that I may or may not have to pay back.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_09: And if I do have to pay back at 1% interest, you know, and uh normally I would not have even filed for that, but you know what?
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_09: We can now file bankruptcy.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_09: Well, uh I decided to take all my money and um and invest it in another country answering prayers in Belize during COVID.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, their whole business base is on tourism, and now they have no tourism.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_09: The tourists have gone home, um, there's no planes coming, and these people have they can't work, they can't, the musicians can't perform.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_09: Um, the agriculture people cannot do agriculture.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_09: So I took all my money and I decided to answer prayers in Belize.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_09: And so I hired 10 guys, and I bought me a truck, I got me a camper, and I bought 30 acres and said, and I and we could hire 10 people.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_09: So I hired those 10 people and said, let's work and go across Belize answering prayers because we all know that construction transfers money seven times.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_09: So the best way to distribute money is to do construction.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_09: You know, um, so that's what I did.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_09: I bought 30 acres and we cleared the land, pushed roads, um, and built infrastructure.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_09: And while we're going to the stores, buying stuff to do all this, you know what?
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: When I you know, everyone recycled the money through the system.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_09: Recycled the money through the system.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_09: And I was actually able to take Belizeans who had never even seen their country, even been in anywhere because they're just working.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_09: They're just, you know, I would get a bunch of Belizeans and we would go to waterfalls, you know, we just would travel and we, oh my gosh, we had just a great time because they actually had the time to have a good time.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and I just had a blast.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, I just built, you know, and I took$330,000 and and we just put it in the economy of Belize.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's great.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and we built the My Cocoon.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_09: So we planted seeds.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_09: We planted seeds and um and now those seeds have grown.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_09: And those those seeds that I planted there are mature now and um they're ready to bloom.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_09: And um during that time, I was given um after we planted those seeds, got that all going in 2021.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_09: Um, I was um told to buy the aguada, which is a a restaurant and hotel in Santa Elena area that a friend had told me about, and I said, I don't need to know about it.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_09: God already told me it's mine.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_09: And and this is where I'm supposed to be, is in this aguada, which has a pond.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_09: And in my book, it'll tell you about you know the pond, because that's where I I watched for once I just once I finished all this, God said, now it's time to sit down.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_09: Now it's time to sit down.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_09: And you gotta, I'm gonna, I got some stuff.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_09: We got we got we got some things to go through now.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_09: You know, you've done your mission, you've accomplished this, but I have something else for you to do.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_09: And um, and he's set me down.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_09: And I had to tell everyone, you gotta do your job.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_09: I can't do your jobs for y'all anymore.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, Haley, you gotta be Haley.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_09: Seth, you gotta be Seth.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_09: Everybody's gotta be themselves because I gotta I gotta figure out who I am.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, I I've I've done everything for everyone and I've put everyone else first.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_09: I put God first.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_09: Donna's got to put her first for once, yeah.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_09: So that way I can live and tell this tale.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_09: Because during this nine-year journey, yeah, I was given it, I lived to tell the tale, yeah, you know, of a death, crucifixion, the crucifixion, the tomb, and the resurrection, right?
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_09: And that and that this walk that everybody has to take if they want to ascend.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's the hero's journey.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_09: It's the hero's journey.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_09: That's exactly right.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_09: And you know, and and and and many have gone before us.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_09: It's not the first.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not the only one, and I'm not gonna be the last.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not special.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_09: You know, and you hear that on all spiritual people.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_09: We're not claiming that we're special.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_09: We're just one that said, when we heard the call, we answered it.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_09: And and and everybody, many are called, few are chosen, few are chosen.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_09: That means few choose to hear the call.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_09: That's right.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_09: You know, it's not that few are chosen, it's few choose to hear the call.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_09: But when the call's there and you go off on this journey, and yes, it's not a fun journey, you know, but there is a path, and it is the hero's journey.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_09: And it, and you know, and you go look at the tarot deck and you go look at you know the spiritual people that went before us.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_09: So they're gonna tell you the same journey, you know, in every ancient wisdom teaching that um, you know, that they all had to seek, you know, they they could stay in their comfortable um castles, they could stay under their comfortable tree, but in the end, they they they go seeking because they know something's not right.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_09: And what and what they find is not what they intended to find.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's the fact.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_09: You know, it's not what they intended to find.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_09: But what they did was find themselves and they found the truth.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_09: And and the truth is hard and it's not easy.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_09: And you can stay in the illusion, but if but the one thing that I can tell you is the basis is if it's not love, it's an illusion.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_09: And if it's not love, look away.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, go find the love.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_09: And in every conversation, every story, every meaning to anything, find the love.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_09: And if you'll just keep following the love, keep following the love, you can find your way through it.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_09: But you got to keep going back to the love.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_09: You gotta bring it back here to your heart, bring it back the moment, you know, and you got to catch yourself because you'll want to get back in that spin.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_09: You'll want to get caught back in that loop.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_09: But if you'll just do that one thing, is where is the love in that story?
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_09: And chase the love, not the hate, not the fear, not the greed, and not the money.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_09: You're you don't chase that.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_09: You chase the love.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_09: And where is the, you know, and and you go neutrality.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_09: It's in one of my poet poems that I would channel, but I mean, you start at neutrality, yeah.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_09: And then you go towards the positive.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_09: You never allow yourself the moment, you know, I'm gonna stay neutral or go positive.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_09: There you can't go back.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, the moment you go back, you go right back into the matrix because that's the matrix.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_09: Fear, greed, shame, guilt.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_09: It's the lower um versions of society, you know, the courage.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, courage is where you ascend.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_09: But if you can't have the courage, yeah, then you can't ascend.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_09: You're gonna stay in the lower um consciousness, which is struggle, yeah, you know, which is the matrix, you know, with greed and um fear and shame and guilt and um grief.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_09: Scarity, scarcity mindset.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_09: Scarcity, you know, that's exactly you're gonna stay as an animal, animalistic, yeah, you know, with lust, and and when but when you have the courage to say, I don't want to be there anymore, but it's a choice.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_09: And and nobody can make it, nobody can force you.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_09: There's not enough time, energy, love, money to force anybody.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_09: That's what you got to give up.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_09: It's trying to convince somebody to be on the journey for you.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_09: That's the mistake.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, I oh, Billy could get me through the journey.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, Robert Grant can get me through the journey.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, my daughter, my son, you know, if you're seeking out there, you got to bring it right back here.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_09: Bring it right back here.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_09: The moment, nope.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_09: I just like Billy publishing my book.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_09: You know, I he I talked to him, I was like, Will you help me publish my book?
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_09: He says yes.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_09: I get the book together, I work my butt off, get the give it to him.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_09: But in the end, he cannot put my book together for me.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_09: You know what?
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_09: He can release it for me, but I can't say, oh, give this to him.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, it's it's mine.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I have to, I have to do it.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_09: Same thing with funding for my nonprofit.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_09: Same thing.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_09: I've never asked for a dime.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_09: Anybody can tell you, I've never once asked for a dime for my nonprofit.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_09: I funded it myself.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_09: You know, and and I, and you can, and even in the Bible it says you will know them by their fruit.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_09: If you're asking for money, if you're asking for money, money, money, money, the first thing that you say when you're then it's not God's because God will fund your project.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_06: Right, right.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_09: God will fund your project, just like with what I'm doing now.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I'm not asking for money.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not gonna give you land.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you're not getting, I'm not saying, hey, give me money without me giving you something of more value that's more value than what I'm asking for.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_07: Right, right, yeah.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_09: God has already provided me a way.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_09: And I'm not gonna ask for nothing.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_09: Trust me, that what I'm gonna give you in exchange is so much more valuable than what um than than what I'm asking for.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_09: Right, right.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_09: By tenfolds.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_09: And but then again, on talking about that tenfolds in the money, that$330,000 five years later, and and what the Bible promises is now worth$3.3 million.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I sat by a pond.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_09: I planted the seeds.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_09: And then I sat by a pond and was downloaded a book.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_09: And though, and that$330,000 turned into$3.3 million, and I can verify it.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_01: I can verify it.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_09: And now I know I'm gonna take this$3.3 million and reseed it and turn it into$3.33,$330 million.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_09: And I it's already promised because it's written.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's written.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna happen.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's already, it's already, you're just rendezvousing with that future outcome.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, it's just rendezvousing, it's just there.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_09: It's already planted, it's already in the, it's already in the ethos, yeah, you know, ethos, it's already there.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_09: It's already waiting to be for me to rise to the to accept it, which is why I got text bill.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_09: I planted those seeds right there next to it.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, is those 30 acres is now could be 1700 acres.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_01: Acres.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_09: That's already full-grown, yeah, you know, ready mature trees that were planted back when I started in 2020.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_09: Now fixing to be mature.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_01: And we're gonna find people that wanna get some of those acres too.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so we're running out of below, we're gonna run out of uh hard drive space soon.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_01: So uh give me uh the top three lessons in your book.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_09: Top three.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, awareness, and the quicker to acceptance, the better.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_09: The moment, I mean, the quickest to acceptance, the quicker you can get to acceptance, game over.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_09: Because it's the it's not accepting the truth of your reality that keeps you in the loop.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_09: But I mean, I can keep saying, well, Billy should do this, uh, Billy should do this.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_09: But the moment I accept that Billy doesn't have time to do this, that this is my it's my responsibility, well then boy, there there goes the problem.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_09: You know, the the sooner I accept that um, yeah, I only have$300 and I need$500, but and accept that I need to go earn$200, then the problem resolves itself.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_09: Now it's solved.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_09: Donna's got to figure out$200.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_09: And then so there's no more questioning.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_09: Donna needs$200, so Donna's got to figure out where$200.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_09: I cannot say, hey, I need$200.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_09: Right, right.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_09: You know, God's gonna, and I can go to my heart and say, how can I earn$200?
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_09: And then I gotta follow whatever guidance I was just told because my higher self's gonna tell me exactly what to do.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_09: But am I gonna listen to it?
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_09: Or am I gonna stay in scarcity and victim mentality?
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, I need$200, so I'm gonna go cry and just hope.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, no, you there takes action.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_09: That's another A word.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_09: So we got awareness that we have to accept it and then take action.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_09: To what?
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_09: Get the abundance.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_01: Get the abundance, that's right.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_09: You know, so it's all the A game, you know, and I can give you those eight, the there's 18 stages to get all the way to ascension, right?
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_09: To be able to manifest what?
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_09: Instantaneously.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_09: That's just like me sitting here with Billy Carson.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_09: Did I sit in meditation and just manifest it?
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, I did.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, I did.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_09: Did I have to take action?
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_09: I had to take action.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_09: Did I have to put my money where I needed to to be able to be in the same spaces with Billy for him to be even aware of my energy, to be able to say, hey, there's something about her that maybe that I can relate to, you know, because if I if if my energy was negative, you would have like, oh, I'm not gonna be around that girl.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not gonna talk to her.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_09: But then you're like, oh, hey, Donna, come take a photo with me, you know?
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_09: Because you felt drawn, and I felt drawn to you because we were on the same energy, and that's how it works.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_09: You know, you're gonna manifest the people.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_09: So if you're with um drug addicts and um crazy people and people that aren't the what does it say?
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_09: The five people around you?
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, right.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_01: The average you're gonna be the average of the five people around you.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna be their conversation level, their health and fitness level, their financial level, you know, uh, even their water cooler talk level, whatever they're gossiping about, all that's gonna be what you're about because the water will always find its level.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes you'll still be the smartest person in the room and you won't be exactly where they are in terms of the buttons some.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_09: They'll keep pulling you down.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_09: And then the moment you want, and that's how you play the game.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_09: Because in the in any game, once you get through all the you get through that level and you're rising, oh, all the ghosts come to pull you back down.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_09: And and and then you'll feel guilt and shame.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, I need to go help them.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_09: They will, the phone will ring, here's another crisis, here, you know, when they will keep you from ascending because you're gonna feel guilt and shame.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_09: So you've got to have the courage to overcome the guilt and shame because that guilt and shame will pull you right back to, oh, they're my family.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, but I've got to because I'm their mother, oh, because I'm their sister, because I'm their cousin, because I'm their friend.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_09: They will pull you right back in the game.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_09: And the only way to that the next level has different characters, different income bracket, different um prizes.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_09: Yep, you know, but you cannot get to those people.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_09: I cannot stay here across from Billy Carson if I had not stayed right where I was, if I would have stayed in Durant, Oklahoma, yeah, doing the same gossip at the same bar with the same friends, yeah, doing the same thing.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, I I was still achieving.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_09: I did.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_01: I achieved.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can achieve at any level.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_09: You can achieve, yes, and I can make all that money, but will I but will my health right?
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_01: There's levels to the game.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_09: There's levels to the game.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_09: There's levels in the and these characters on this level cannot go with you, nor do they want to.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_09: They were not put in the game.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_09: They are NPCs, they're there to help you learn all the lessons and blessings in this.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_09: You go boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_09: You know, and then once you learn that, and just like with any game, once you learn the rules of the game, then you can bend them.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_09: But until you know the rules, yeah, then you can't bend them.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_09: So you know how to bend the rules in your businesses because you played the game so long.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_09: Um, your girlfriend seizures, she knows how to bend the rules in um real estate because she's played the games long enough that she knows the little loopholes.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, she can know the cheat codes.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_09: You know, so when something's not working here, she knows where to maneuver it to get here, but she has to go a different way.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_09: And that's what those cheat codes are in the game.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, in the reality game.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_09: There's cheat codes, and you can bend them, but first you got to understand the rules of the game.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_09: So the first thing you're gonna do is learn every rule of the game.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_09: You're gonna play it the correct way.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_09: You can't start out being a criminal.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you can't start out um being on drugs, you can't start out and then get to the top of the game.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, you're gonna have to go through these levels of being playing it correctly, finding out where all the treasures are and how to get to those treasures.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_09: And then what, then what you find that one little that pass that shoots you up to level eight.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_09: But that's have to be conscious that you're actually in a game.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and you and just like you say, when you plug your brain up that they can read what you're gonna do six seconds.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_09: So that's how you get over that ancestral curse because the ancestral curse is gonna tell you that you're running the same program.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_09: It's it it's automatic.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_09: This is what's gonna happen at the end of that.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_09: You know, but when you're playing ahead of the game and you're like there playing the game and you're six seconds ahead, yeah, you've already Master the game.
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_09: You master the game.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_09: There's no way because you're already in that pre-programmed game of just following along with what the characters are doing in front of you.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_09: You're actually leading the characters by six seconds.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_09: Or after six seconds, four to six seconds.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_09: And the same thing is classing your reality.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_09: The same thing is like, you know what?
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_09: If you're ahead of the game, then you can say, nope, I'm not gonna go down that loop.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_09: Wait a minute, no, I'm not classing my I could say, hey Billy, you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing, and we get all upset, and then there my game just got just got killed.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, I I just lost my manifestation.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_09: I was like, oh wait a minute, sorry, I did not mean to overreact or you know what, sorry about that.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_09: I didn't I got lost in the game.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_09: Let me let me write it back in.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_09: I know you're busy, I know that you've got stuff to do, and that has nothing to do with me.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_09: You know what?
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_09: And that's how I collapse I don't collapse with the manifestation.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_09: I'm getting caught into the loop of my brain trying to tell me, oh, they're disrespecting me, oh they're um not making me a priority.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_09: You know, that's just what I'm saying.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_09: You know, I can get stuck into that game.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_09: But but also I can stay in reality and say they don't need to be.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_09: You know, they're busy people doing their thing and playing their own game, and here I'm only concentrated on my part of the game, they're playing several parts of the game, and I'm playing my set.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_09: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_09: We both are all playing our games.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_09: And if we mess up, then we cannot collapse it into the because I didn't mess up.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm setting here.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's right, absolutely.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_01: This has been an amazing podcast.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_01: You you have a lot of you've been through a lot, you've you've you've taken all that you've gone through and you've alchemically converted it into knowledge, wisdom, attention, and help for other people, and that's an absolute.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I hope everyone watching right now is really paying attention to what Donald Powell has been talking about, what he's been teaching, he's lived his life, and what is called the A game.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm telling you, you want to go and get this book E immediately.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_01: The link will be underneath this video, and the link will also be in the audio as well.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Don, it's been a pleasure.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_09: Thank you, thank you, thank you, Billy, and thank you for publishing my book and giving me the confidence that I can sit here and do this with you because that's not easy.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_09: It's not easy.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_09: And you have really uh honored your agreement and your love for me, and I love you, and I I mean I just you've done the hard work just like I've done the hard work, and we're here between his academy as part of my A game.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_09: You know, so when you buy my book and being part of the academy with him and what we're gonna build together through his academy and through my A game, we've got the answers.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_09: And from lived experience.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_09: No, this ain't philosophy, this ain't you know, this is lib.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_09: This is this is this is the real reality and how you play the real reality game.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_01: All right, everyone, we catch you later.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_01: Peace.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_04: From all us and the masters, help me to remember who I am Let me find my strength, my power within.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_02: Then I will shine like beacon of light, illuminating the whole world and beyond.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_02: Guide me, ancient light, bring me home where I can remember my purpose, my mission for this light.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I am back to one light I are Two Light I come back.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_03: No more darkness.
• 1:11:10
  SPEAKER_03: Let me turn my light and guide others home.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_03: We fight against this dark world together.
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_02: Let's unite all races, all races, all religions, all people, we are one and strong together.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_02: Unity, oh unity, please people remember that we are all brothers and sisters.
• 1:11:34
  SPEAKER_02: Together we can end this dark world and save the future for our children.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_02: Unity, please people together now.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_02: Now is the time.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_02: Big brother, look at me now.
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_05: Tell me I'm not yet Tell me on the same But cause I look different.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_04: Tell me we are not the same, living under one sun in the Milky Way galaxy.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_03: Tell me, tell me, your brother, remind me that the light that shines in me shines also in you.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_03: Nothing can stop us when we together.
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_03: We can make this world brand new Shining like a star, like a vegan.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_03: Borrow the life to come to our beautiful planet.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, brother, tell me I'm your brother.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_03: Tell me nothing can be right us.
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_03: No powers can separate us R1.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_04: Start the Food Street.