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The Late Debate | 15 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late General, Welcome, Late Base, thanks for your company. I'm
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  Speaker 1: James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and filling in for this
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  Speaker 1: store at Danika de Giorgio.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Katie Perry returns to Earth from her space odyssey, but
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  Speaker 1: her head is still very much up in the clouds.
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  Speaker 2: Will show you why a little later.
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  Speaker 1: Plus, when we get to what's making news tomorrow, the
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  Speaker 1: Reserve Bank says another rate cut isn't needed because apparently
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  Speaker 1: mortgage holders are doing just fine. And the Australian newspaper
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  Speaker 1: reporting doctors slamming Anthony Albanese's flagship health policy. All of
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  Speaker 1: that when we look at tomorrow's newspapers. But first, the
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  Speaker 1: SICKI is a great Australian tradition, right, call in sick
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  Speaker 1: on a Friday and give yourself an early mark. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: if you're going to do this, you probably shouldn't post
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  Speaker 1: photos of yourself enjoying a long weekend on social media.
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  Speaker 1: But that's exactly what a Melbourne solicitor did, and when
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  Speaker 1: he got sacked, he blamed stigma around mental health days.
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  Speaker 1: Commercial lawyer Mitchell Fuller claimed to be sick last year
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  Speaker 1: when he was actually on an interstate footy trip. Enjoying
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  Speaker 1: the AFL's gather around with mates. He told the Fair
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  Speaker 1: Work Commission he was entitled to the SICKI because he
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  Speaker 1: needed a mental health day, and besides, he'd run out
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  Speaker 1: of his ADHD medication. He said, quote, I could barely
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  Speaker 1: hold a conversation, let alone focus on legal drafting. The
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  Speaker 1: existing situation in the office became almost unbearable. I was
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  Speaker 1: burning out on fast forward. I realized I desperately needed
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  Speaker 1: a circuit breaker with close friends that care about me.
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  Speaker 1: I had plenty of personal leave, and I decided to
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  Speaker 1: take the Friday off. So he went to Adelaide, watched
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  Speaker 1: the AFL, went to the beach, and hung out in
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  Speaker 1: pubs with his mates. When the Commission found he'd lied
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  Speaker 1: to his employer and deserved to be sacked, well, Mitchell
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  Speaker 1: Fuller transformed himself into a mental health advocate. He told
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  Speaker 1: journalists and I quote, as a society at large, we
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  Speaker 1: need to quit sniggering at the idea of mental health
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  Speaker 1: days and start writing them explicitly into workplace laws. Caleb,
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  Speaker 1: you're a big fan of the AFL. Do you agree
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  Speaker 1: with him? Mental health day would be about in order
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  Speaker 1: for you?
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  Speaker 3: Well look, I will say that I would never do
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  Speaker 3: anything like this, and I have never done anything like this.
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  Speaker 4: I have been renowned in all.
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  Speaker 3: Of my workplaces for avoiding sick days at all costs,
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  Speaker 3: which is great because when you finally want to pull
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  Speaker 3: a SICKI no one questions at whatsoever. And I'm so
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  Speaker 3: dedicated to this channel here, scar News and my employment
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  Speaker 3: that I will be working on Good Friday and Anzac
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  Speaker 3: Day this year because you know, I just want to
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  Speaker 3: be here all the time to serve you the viewer.
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  Speaker 3: That being said, the man has a point.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: He wanted to go to Adelaide, the greatest city in
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  Speaker 3: the country, and for that I do not blame him.
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  Speaker 3: The therapeutic qualities of that city I'm sure would help
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  Speaker 3: fix him, and the therapeutic qualities of Ossie rules football.
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  Speaker 4: Cannot be denied either.
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  Speaker 3: I can't think of a better way to get your
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  Speaker 3: head back in shape than to go to Adelaide and
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  Speaker 3: watch eight or nine games of footy in the one
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  Speaker 3: place on one weekend and have a few beers with your.
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  Speaker 4: Mates at the pub.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going down a warning ball in a few weeks
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  Speaker 3: time for the races down there. They call it schoolies
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  Speaker 3: for middle aged men. I don't quite qualify as a
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  Speaker 3: middle aged man, i'd like to think.
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  Speaker 4: But we know what.
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  Speaker 5: I go away for that week.
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  Speaker 3: And I come back feeling fantastic because I've gone and
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  Speaker 3: drunk shed loads of wine and watched some Mortses race
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  Speaker 3: and hung out with some mates, and I feel brilliant
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  Speaker 3: when I so, I can see his argument he should.
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  Speaker 1: Have told his employer that he just said he was
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  Speaker 1: sick and didn't give any specific reason.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I've won a few things. First.
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  Speaker 6: I love how Caleb started off his little preamble thereby,
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  Speaker 6: you know, basically sucking up to.
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  Speaker 5: His employer on his employment.
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  Speaker 6: The channel here like this, Now, look, who hasn't taken
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  Speaker 6: a sick day?
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  Speaker 5: Come on, if you haven't taken.
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  Speaker 3: A set, I've only ever had legitimate sick days. I've
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  Speaker 3: never thrown a sicky.
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  Speaker 6: You've never thrown a sick Well, I mean, Caleb, you
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  Speaker 6: are a star employee.
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  Speaker 5: Congratulates employee.
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  Speaker 2: You have taken sickis.
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  Speaker 5: I've I've had taken a SICKI before.
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  Speaker 4: Go on, you know what the most recent onnder there, oh.
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  Speaker 5: Like maybe six seven years ago, wasn't anything?
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  Speaker 7: All?
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  Speaker 5: Come? Yeah, mu's come on.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, look, we don't do it all
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  Speaker 6: the time, but yes, I think that the majority of
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  Speaker 6: people out there would say that they have indeed taken
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  Speaker 6: a SICKI.
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  Speaker 5: Here and there, and that's fine.
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  Speaker 6: I don't have a problem with that. But a couple
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  Speaker 6: of things with this story. At firstly, the mental health
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  Speaker 6: excuse really irks me actually from the very very beginning.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to go into people's own mental health problems.
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  Speaker 6: However, he wants to put mental health leave into laws
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  Speaker 6: That really bothers me from a business perspective, from an
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  Speaker 6: employer perspective, to then have that clause in somebody's contract
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  Speaker 6: as well, that they're allowed to take several days off
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  Speaker 6: here and they're willing nearly whenever they feel like it
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  Speaker 6: to take mental health days.
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  Speaker 5: I do actually think it is.
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  Speaker 6: In a police officer's contract that they are allowed to
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  Speaker 6: take mental health days. Fair and that I think is
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  Speaker 6: completely fair enough that I that I understand, but really
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  Speaker 6: that's just more burden on the employer. Now, second thing
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  Speaker 6: I would point out, if you are indeed going to
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  Speaker 6: take a sicky for goodness sake, rule number one, amateur,
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  Speaker 6: this is and this is this is real amateur hour
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  Speaker 6: from this bloke. Okay, do not post it on yes
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  Speaker 6: social media, go into hiding. Go into hiding, pretend like
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  Speaker 6: you're not, pretend that you are indeed sick.
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  Speaker 5: Do not post it on your social media. That is
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  Speaker 5: the problem.
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  Speaker 6: But with this case, the Fair Work Commission actually threw
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  Speaker 6: it out, so you just got to wonder what's going
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  Speaker 6: on really.
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  Speaker 1: With his point, you know he wants this inscribed in law.
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  Speaker 1: We should point out he is a former Green's candidate,
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  Speaker 1: so well figure my point with this, and you know
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  Speaker 1: he wanted a mental health day. Fair enough, AFL, But
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  Speaker 1: I'm a North Melbourne supporter, Caleb Helbn game any.
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  Speaker 2: Health today to recover from my mental health day.
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  Speaker 5: It's a very fair point.
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  Speaker 3: But but I mean, you know he took two sickies
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  Speaker 3: and the law firm found out four months later when
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  Speaker 3: they looked at his Instagram and then decided to sack him.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if this is the standard that they're now
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  Speaker 3: going to set up in the Fair Work Commission, that
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  Speaker 3: you can be sacked for bumming two sickis and your
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  Speaker 3: employer finds out four months later, so clearly that you
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  Speaker 3: know that not much had happened in that time. That
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  Speaker 3: caused them to go and try and sack him. Like,
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  Speaker 3: if that's now the standard for getting sacked, there are
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people in this country who are going
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  Speaker 3: to be in serious trouble. I mean, remember when Bob
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  Speaker 3: ll said anyone, any employer who sacked someone for not
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  Speaker 3: turning up to work tomorrow is a bum. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: when we won the America's Cup, I mean, going by
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  Speaker 3: the Fair Work Commission, now it would sound like everyone
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  Speaker 3: can be sacked for chuck and a Sicki's much dangerous.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's too extreme, to be honest.
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  Speaker 6: I can understand if you were an employer you've got.
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  Speaker 5: A staff member who's chuck.
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  Speaker 6: To SICKI has gone on a holiday, gone on a vacation,
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  Speaker 6: gone to the gather around, done something like that. You
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  Speaker 6: might you would definitely think of them as a less
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  Speaker 6: favorable employee.
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  Speaker 2: You would.
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  Speaker 6: They probably would miss out, maybe on key roles in
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  Speaker 6: the company. I understand perhaps I would get less work.
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  Speaker 6: I completely understand that, but I'm not really sure if
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  Speaker 6: it's grounds for dismissalm.
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  Speaker 5: Come on, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think there may have been some.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to know who his footy team isn't
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  Speaker 3: and whether in fact that's why he had the second sicky,
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  Speaker 3: because he might have been in the same position as you, James.
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  Speaker 3: Now you might have seen over the last couple of
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  Speaker 3: days Peter Dutton's son Harry has been with him on
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  Speaker 3: the campaign trail. He popped up yesterday, took questions from
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  Speaker 3: the media, spoke to the media about the fact that
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  Speaker 3: he wants to be able to buy a house for himself,
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  Speaker 3: but it's very expensive to do so he's a little
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  Speaker 3: reminder if you didn't see it yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: I am saving up for a house, and so as
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  Speaker 8: my sister back and a lot of my mates. But
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  Speaker 8: as you've probably heard, it's almost impossible to get in
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  Speaker 8: in the current states. So I mean my saving like mad,
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  Speaker 8: but it doesn't look like we'll get there in the
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  Speaker 8: near future. But we'd love that to change.
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  Speaker 3: And soon after the lefty journalists and proponents of Albanomics
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  Speaker 3: were saying, well, why doesn't your father just pay for
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  Speaker 3: you to buy a house? As though lefties have now
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  Speaker 3: decided that it's a good thing to use intergenerational wealth
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  Speaker 3: to get into the property market. I thought they would
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  Speaker 3: have been on board with the idea of everyone able
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  Speaker 3: being able to afford things for themselves without having to
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  Speaker 3: lean on the wealth of their parents to do it.
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  Speaker 3: But no, when it comes to Peter dutton son saying
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  Speaker 3: he'd like to be able to do it under his
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  Speaker 3: own steam, Well, why aren't you doing it for him,
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  Speaker 3: mister Dutton. Now I don't quite get the reasoning here,
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  Speaker 3: But Peter Dudden yesterday wouldn't actually answer the question. He
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  Speaker 3: waited until today to say, yes, he would help out
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  Speaker 3: his son. Will you help them if their saving for
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  Speaker 3: a deposit and proving to be a good financial, financially
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  Speaker 3: responsible kids.
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  Speaker 9: And I think our households are no different to many
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  Speaker 9: households where want our kids to work hard to say,
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  Speaker 9: and will help them with a deposit at some stage.
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  Speaker 3: But now he could have just said that yesterday and
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  Speaker 3: put it all to bed. But as far as I'm concerned,
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  Speaker 3: it's a moronic line of questioning because what Datlan is
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  Speaker 3: trying to say here, and what his son Harry is
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  Speaker 3: trying to say, is that he shouldn't matter whether your
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  Speaker 3: parents have any money to decide whether you can get
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  Speaker 3: into the housing market.
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  Speaker 4: Surely we shouldn't be in.
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  Speaker 3: A position where you have to rely on your parents
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  Speaker 3: or your grandparents in order to be able to get
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  Speaker 3: into the housing market.
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  Speaker 4: For a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: That's not how it used to be, but it is
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  Speaker 3: now for most people the way it is. If you
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  Speaker 3: want to get into the market, you've either got to
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  Speaker 3: rely on mom and dad to dip into the bank
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  Speaker 3: now to help you to secure your loan or to
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  Speaker 3: give you some extra money for a deposit, or you
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  Speaker 3: have to wait for them to drop off the perch
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  Speaker 3: and inherit their home in order to own property. This
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  Speaker 3: is not a great situation, is it. Because of course,
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  Speaker 3: if you believe in conservative politics, you need to understand
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  Speaker 3: that people have to own something, They need something to
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  Speaker 3: conserve if they're going to continue thinking that way. So
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  Speaker 3: Dutton saying, look, we want people to be able to
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  Speaker 3: buy houses under their own steam, and for some reason
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  Speaker 3: or another, the left doesn't think that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: So it's interesting to see how this has played out.
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  Speaker 3: And of course today Harry was back out with mister
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  Speaker 3: Dutton on the campaign trailer. He posted a photo on
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  Speaker 3: x this morning saying how happy and proud he was
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  Speaker 3: to have his son out on the hustings with him. Look,
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  Speaker 3: it may have blown up a little bit in his
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  Speaker 3: face yesterday. I wonder why it's taken this long to
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  Speaker 3: get the family out there.
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  Speaker 4: I know they were on.
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  Speaker 3: The sixty minutes interview that they did with Karl Stefanovic,
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  Speaker 3: but do you know what, Harry seems like an intelligent,
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  Speaker 3: upstanding young fella who was trying to make a legitimate
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  Speaker 3: argument about how he wants to be able to buy
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  Speaker 3: a home on his own without having to rely on
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  Speaker 3: his dad to bankroll him. Why do they get a
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  Speaker 3: bit more of this out there.
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  Speaker 4: The coalition and that they could give anything a go
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  Speaker 4: at this point.
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  Speaker 5: I agree.
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  Speaker 6: I think that Harry is a secret weapon that the
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  Speaker 6: Liberals should have rolled out from the very beginning of
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  Speaker 6: this campaign, because don't forget, Harry is twenty years old.
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  Speaker 6: He actually represents a cohort that the Liberals are desperately
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  Speaker 6: trying to target through these housing policies, through this first
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  Speaker 6: home biased scheme that they have announced as well, because
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  Speaker 6: they need to win over that cohort because we know
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  Speaker 6: that a lot of young voters, a lot of millennials
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  Speaker 6: for example, a lot of gen Z, they're actually turning
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  Speaker 6: to the minor parties and that's where the Greens could
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  Speaker 6: potentially pick up a lot of seats from these younger voters.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, Harry, I guess represents as well Peter
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  Speaker 6: Dutton's family life. And Peter Dutton has been painted, as
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  Speaker 6: we know, as this hard man, this you know, tough, tough, strong,
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  Speaker 6: strong politician. Well when we see this softer side, people
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  Speaker 6: actually warmed.
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  Speaker 5: To him and warm to his family.
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  Speaker 6: And I know when Peter Kredlin did that sit down
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  Speaker 6: podcast interview you remember with Peter Dutton, he actually spoke
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  Speaker 6: a lot there about his family.
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  Speaker 5: And it's a side we didn't.
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  Speaker 6: See, whereas Alvo he's always trotting out lines about Jodi
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  Speaker 6: when when they're going to get married and Toto the dog.
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  Speaker 3: For goodness sake, don't forget his mum who brought him
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  Speaker 3: up in housing and please.
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  Speaker 6: We can't forget about the social housing comments, and don't.
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  Speaker 1: Forget his son who got conscious lounge to access, and
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  Speaker 1: we can't forget that.
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  Speaker 5: Family point, that family point as well.
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  Speaker 6: But I just thought that the media question though about
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  Speaker 6: whether or not Peter Dutton would help his son out
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  Speaker 6: was absolutely appalling, because what parents, if they had the
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  Speaker 6: means to do so, wouldn't actually want to help out
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  Speaker 6: their children get into the market.
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  Speaker 1: But this is the funny side of it, right, So
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  Speaker 1: so you say Harry is there to emphasize Peter Dutton's
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  Speaker 1: softer side, but it took him fully a day and
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  Speaker 1: a bit to decide whether or not he'd help his
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  Speaker 1: son out.
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  Speaker 5: No, I agree should the very beginning.
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  Speaker 6: But I just think it was a stupid question to
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  Speaker 6: begin with, because what parent out there if you had
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  Speaker 6: the means to do so.
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  Speaker 5: You've got two sons.
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  Speaker 6: You've got two sons, James, if you had the means
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  Speaker 6: to do so to help your kids get into the
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  Speaker 6: into the market, you would do exactly after I pay
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  Speaker 6: to go together out and after you've taken a sicky
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  Speaker 6: as well at the same time. But the point is,
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  Speaker 6: it's like this gotcha moment, We've got him.
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  Speaker 1: I wrote with this, But stupid than the question was
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  Speaker 1: whoever's advising Peter Dutton they should prepare for these things.
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  Speaker 1: That they allowed that to become the issue rather than
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  Speaker 1: the difficulty for young people.
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  Speaker 2: Getting into the housing market.
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  Speaker 1: That's a damnation on the Liberal Party policy advisors, not
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  Speaker 1: on the media. What's interesting to me is whether they
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  Speaker 1: brought Harry into this discussion, as you say, to connect
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  Speaker 1: with younger people regarding this very important issue of housing,
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  Speaker 1: or whether it was not really about housing at all,
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  Speaker 1: it was about as you've also alluded to, trying to
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  Speaker 1: soften Peter Dutton's image in that sixty Minutes interview back
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  Speaker 1: in February, I think it was Dutton's wife, Curly said
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  Speaker 1: that her husband had been traditionally given tougher jobs in
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  Speaker 1: politics and that had created a certain persona which was
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  Speaker 1: not conducive to winning over voters.
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  Speaker 2: But she said, I hope you can see him.
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  Speaker 1: As another person if he does become the next Prime minister. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I would argue people have got to see him as
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  Speaker 1: another person, not when he becomes Prime minister, but before
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  Speaker 1: the election in order for him to ever have a
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  Speaker 1: chance of becoming Prime minister. Hence Harry appeared talking about
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  Speaker 1: housing the last day or two. Now he's back on
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  Speaker 1: the hustings again, not about housing, but just with his dad.
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  Speaker 4: But again, it's all just too late.
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  Speaker 3: I just feel like everything in this coalition campaign has
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  Speaker 3: come too late. Policies have come out too late, They've
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  Speaker 3: trodded out the family too late, and then when things
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  Speaker 3: don't go quite as they should, they just sing to them.
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  Speaker 3: Jumper price saying make Australia great again, or yesterday when
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to carry on a doubt and about how
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  Speaker 3: he should help out his son, they wait too long
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  Speaker 3: to respond to that. They don't seem to have anticipated it,
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  Speaker 3: like they just seem so far on the back foot.
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  Speaker 6: They definitely are on the back foot. But I think
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  Speaker 6: that they're hoping because it is actually proven that young
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  Speaker 6: people do vote for the Coalition, but they're more likely
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  Speaker 6: to be swayed by the party that they believe is
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  Speaker 6: going to help set them up for the future.
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  Speaker 5: And this is where the Coalition I think has been
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  Speaker 5: a bit slow. And of course one of those parties
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  Speaker 5: is the Greens and Boyo boy.
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  Speaker 6: But once again the Greens have proven to us that
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  Speaker 6: they are the most UnAustralian party in our history because
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  Speaker 6: their latest target amid every other day or every other
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: issue they try to socially hijacked, well, they are now
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: targeting Anzac Day. You heard that, correct, one of the
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  Speaker 6: most important days on our calendar, because they want to
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  Speaker 6: host what they're calling a party party.
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: A rave. It sounds like a rave to me. Here
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: it is.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: Here is the flyer the Greens party party. Now this
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: is from the WA branch of the Greens. It was
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: promoted as a ticketed fundraiser to help boast of their
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: bolts of their fundraising efforts to campaign for candidates over
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: in the West. It was set to be a five
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: hour event with a DJ, tickets ranging from thirty dollars
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: to one thousand.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: But here is what the invite read. I'm going to
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: read it off.
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: It says, the federal election is right around the corner.
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: Join us for a night when the dance floor becomes
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: a platform for radical change. Your moves matter on the
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: floor and on the polls.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: How is that? Now? Look couple of issues dancing? Oh okay,
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: well your mind went there. I didn't it did, kayla.
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: But look a couple of issues of course at play here. Firstly,
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: Anzac Day is obviously a day that we as a
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: nation pause to reflect and remember those who not only
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: fought for us and did so so bravely, but also continue.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: To do so.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: And it's not just a day that we fob off
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: as just your average public holiday. And yet what bothers
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: me about this is that the Green sort to take
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: advantage of this, take advantage of our freedoms that we
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: are so grateful for thanks to everybody who has fought
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: for us and continue to do so. To throw a
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: campaign fundraiser, now, obviously I'm aware that pubs are packed
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: on Anzac Day with two up people enjoy the public holiday.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying you can't have
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: a party. I'm not saying you can't enjoy yourselves. But
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: the point is a campaign fundraiser on a day like
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Anzac Day is an absolute disgrace.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: That was the issue. No one's saying you can't have
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: fun on Anzac Day. We should enjoy the freedoms that
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: our souls sacrifice themselves for. The point is this is
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: political and it's generally agreed we don't politicize.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Anzac Day in any way.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Campaign will stop on the twenty fifth as our politicians
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: give honor to our serviceman.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Here's Peter Dutton making just that point.
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: I think it's completely inappropriate and I think it reflects
• 17:20
  Speaker 9: the poor values that the Greens stand for. And I
• 17:23
  Speaker 9: just say to every young Australian who's proud of their
• 17:25
  Speaker 9: grandfather who fought in the war, proud of a cousin
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: who's serving in the Australian Defense Force. Now understand that
• 17:32
  Speaker 9: the Greens have complete contempt for our Defense Force personnel.
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: The Greens, of course would be the partners in government
• 17:38
  Speaker 9: with Anthony Albanezi, and mister Albanezi should condemn these actions.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: This is typical of the Greens.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: They talk about the importance of empathy and love and
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: tolerance and inclusion and then fail to understand Anzac Days
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a day that should be reserved for honoring those who
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: have sacrificed their lives. But I think in order to
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: be a Green, the prerequisite is that you don't think.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: For instance, you know, billionaires will pay for everything until
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: we have no billionaires left. Stop oil and gas now.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: But of course society would break down if we did that.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Defund private schools. Of course public schools would be overwhelmed.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: If we did that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: It's typical of Green thinking on the run. Thought bubbles
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: that are immediately burst the moment, and he thought is applied.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: And Adam Bandt failed to condemn this.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Now he claimed he didn't know about it, but he
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: should have said, look, if this is true, it's not
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: on then again it's true to form for the Greens
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: because not that long ago Senator Jordan steel John. This
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: fundraiser was in part to raise money for him. It
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago. He refused to support a motion
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: condemning vandalism at the Australian War Memorial and Adam Bant
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: supported him in that refusal to support that motion condemning vandalism.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: So the way the Greens feel about this country, as
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you said, Danika, is pretty clear for anybody.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Who's been paying even a mediocrem of attention.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: But I think that's the point.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I think you give them too much credit in saying
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: that this was a thought bubble that just didn't stand
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: up to any actual thought.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: When they came to it, they knew exactly what they
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: were doing. They know it's an Zac Day.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: They just want to take advantage of the public holiday
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: because they don't particularly care about Anzac Day. Because of
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: course Anzac Day means soldiers who've gone off to defend
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: the colony and all the other terrible, wicked things that
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: have gone on in the West, as far as they're
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: concern to the Australian military, is a symbol of colonialism
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: and imperialism and us trying to spread our will upon
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: the rest of the world. They couldn't give two hoots
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: about Anzac Day. And it's quite obvious so that they've
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: canceled this thing, or they've rescheduled it, they've seen it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Some other time, whenever that may be.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: But if you look at the one line statement that
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: they put out today, because of course it's not until
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: people start complaining that they actually go, oh, you know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I suppose we were to do something about this, but
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: it came through it about midday today.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: This was all the statement said.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: The event originally scheduled for twenty five April, has been rescheduled.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Sophie Greer, she's the candidate for Perth, will attend an
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Anzac Day service on that day and she was always intending.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: To do so.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: That is all that the Greens in Wa had to
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: say about the fact that they'd been called out that
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: they were going to take advantage of what is a
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: sacred day in Australia to raise money for political purposes.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: I think that says it all.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: They don't care about Anzac Day. There's no apology in there.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: There was sorry, we didn't read the room, or or
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: you're right, we shouldn't have done it on Anzac Day
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: because it's a sacred day to one of those who've
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: served our country and given their lives, etc.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: None of that in there because they don't believe it.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: That's the point.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: And also to pick up on Peter Dutton's point there,
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: this is actually a worry in the event of a
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: minority government because if you have Labor and the Greens,
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: you're going to hear more ridiculous ideas when the Greens
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: try and hijack every day that's important to us, or
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: every cause or anything that represents our values in this country. Well,
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: here is your proof that this is exactly what's going
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: to happen.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Well, if you're wondering what's gone wrong with the Greens,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: why do they seem to be so mad, maybe it's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: all due to climate change. Check out this headline from
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: our own ABC. They're reporting, quote, rising temperatures could cause
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a surge in mental health disorders, with young Australians most
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: at risk. And this article is based on a study
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: by the University of Adelaide which predicts mental disorders in
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: this country could increase by fifty percent over the next
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: two decades as temperatures rise due to man induced climate change.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: They're predicting everything from mild distress to can you believe it?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Schizophrenia will be on the increase because days will be hotter.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Here's one young person who gives evidence to the fact
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that it's not higher temperatures that are causing mental health issues.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: It's the constant fear of climate change that is doing it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: The ab are more responsible, I would suggest than rising temperatures.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Have I listened to this girl.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: I have experienced eco anxiety since I have been fifteen.
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: I am worried that my future will be full of
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: increased floods, fires, famine, and drought. And I know that
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: the number one driver of that is the continued approval
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: of new coal and gas projects.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So clearly, this girl, Caleb, is quite troubled.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: But what's troubling her is not that the temperature's risen
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: by a couple of degrees. She's troubled by reports like
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: this in the ABC.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: She was the one that went bunter at Anthony Albernizi's
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: press conference last week when he was announcing more funding
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: for mental health, and her argument was, well, you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: it's because a climate change and mental health's going down
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: the toilet.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: But you're quite right, kids are having their heads.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Filled with this nonsense in school that the world's going
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: to end tomorrow and you're all going to be burned
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: and you'll burn alive, and there'll be no world for
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: you to have kids in, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: No wonder this thing called they call eco anxiety exists
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: because if you're telling children of primary school age these
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: massive concepts about the world into the future and what
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: they're going to have to live in. I mean, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: it's like telling a kid, ah, well, mummy and daddy
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: have lost their jobs and you'll be homeless.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I mean you can imagine what a nine year old
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: is going to think and how they're going to react
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: They're going to need a change of underwear.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: And that's essentially what is happening in schools every day
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: at the moment.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: So, no wonder it leads to.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Increases in bad mental health.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: But this study is buncome.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, please, what they have done here is committed
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: the sin of thinking that correlation equals causation, because the
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: way they've done it is to look at the burden
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: of mental health in different locations around the country, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: by their methodology, burden is how bad mental health issues
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: are and what that means to the health system, etc.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And they have found that in places that have generally
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: hotter temperatures like arn and Adelaide and Melbourne, et cetera,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: where they have hot, dry summers, of course they have
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: higher burdens of mental health. And so they've decided that
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: that somehow means that higher temperatures are what cause ill
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: mental health, and so it will continue into the future.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's got to be one of the worst
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: pieces of academic work I've seen in a long term.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: It truly is a shocker. But I agree with you.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: I think it is absolutely indoctrination from a younger age,
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: but also the young people these days, these kids, they're
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: being brainwashed by people like Greta Thunberg. And you see
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: all the Rising Tide protesters like the one we just saw,
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: the ones over in the UK or the US, you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: and they chain themselves to things, and these kids go, Wow,
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: what a fantastic cause this is. But then on the
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: other hand, you know, the other problem here we've got
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: is if you try to say go about your day,
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: go about your business, We'll get this. You're going to
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: go to the hairdresser. You ask for a cut, a
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: blow dry, you ask for whatever, and guess what you
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: could be served up with a slice of climate change?
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Right, slice of climate change? Because now a brush with.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: Climate this is what it's called. It is a movement
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: that started here in Sydney of Australia where a salon
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: owner basically gives you a little bit of a lecture,
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: a bit of history into climate change while cutting your hair,
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: while shampooing your hair. I guess guide you through it
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: and give you the key details about what you need
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: to know about climate change, just in case you're really
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: interested while you're sitting there.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, please, seriously, this.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Is just another joke when people try and butt themselves
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: into your issues.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know about yout. I don't know how long
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: you two spend it the hairdresser.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Bite a while, I think, But listen, if my hairdresser
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: started lecturing me about climate change while blow drying my hair,
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: I would grab that blow dry, blow it in their
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: face and say this is what a hot summer's day
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: in Sydney feels life.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: So please leave me alone.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: No disrespect to hairdressers, but do you really regard your
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: hairdresser as the Authority on climate change and all of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that sort of issue that the Irish Department of Education
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: is spending one hundred and twelve thousand dollars on grants
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: to train hairdressers not to cut your hair, but to
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: talk to you about how best to reduce your emissions
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: in a bid to save the planet. It's a good
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: reason to I reckon grow your hair out, Caleb.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Well, well, good luck to you, James on that instead.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know, and I've got a serious
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: bloody bit of hair on top of my head. Times
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: you go to the hairdresser quite frequently. She's never once
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: tried to talk to me about climate change.
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: Things she wouldn't want to exactly, But you know, I
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: go to my hairdresser to talk about trivial things like
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: married at first sight, or to get the gossip.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, hairdresses are great people to get gossip out
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: of it. It's like taxi drivers because they see that
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: many people in the day who spill the gats about
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: all sorts of things. You learned some serious things when
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you talk to a hairdresser, but climate change probably isn't
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: on my list. And you might even be going to
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: the hair dress and they'll start telling you how bad
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: your dog is too. Because another study again out of Australia.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: What is it with all of these things emanating out
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: of Australia at the studies about how mental ill mental
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: health is caused by climate change, all this business about
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: being told by the person the salon that climate change
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: is bad. Now there's a study out of Australia saying
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: that dogs are bad for the environment. Because of course
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: they've been saying this about cats for a long time,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: and you know, they go out and kill native animals
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: and all this sort of thing. My two little fellas
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: don't do that because they're hold.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Up in an apartment.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if that's good for their mental health actually,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: but we'll come to that later. But they've done a
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: study now here in Australia. This was in the Pacific
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Conservation Biology Journal, and I'm sure you're all reading that
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: at home by bed light before you go to sleep
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: after you've watched the Late Debate every night. But they
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: say that dogs are indeed bad for the environment on
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: basically every metric, including the production of pet food. Apparently
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: the dry pet food industry has an environmental footprint of
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: a tree double the size of.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: The United Kingdom.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: So you know, if you've got a perch at home,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: you are destroying the environment. And I'm wondering how all
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: the lefties are going to come to terms with this,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: because of course a lot of young lefties in particular
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: now who won't have kids because they're worried about the climate,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: they have dogs instead, and they call them their fur babies,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: and yeah, fuss over them as though they were children.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: All of these people are now going to go and
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: have to take their dogs to the pound.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, firstly, I think it's worth pointing out
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: and I think this tells you everything you need to
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: know actually about this research. It was actually according to
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: an Australian review of other environmental reviews, so it's just
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: this being giant environmental review tells you everything you need
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: to know. I would would say, though, probably the only thing,
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: the one little thing I would agree with from this review.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: It says that one of the advices make sure you
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: pick up your dogs well, and I would agree with that.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: I would absolutely agree with that. But the other thing
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: that the reviews said was that lacks uninformed dog owners
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: are to blame as well for the environmental crisis facing dogs,
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: and a simple way to mitigate against the worst impacts
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: was to keep dogs leased in areas where restrictions do apply.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Look, I actually think yeah, but I think that's fair enough.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: I hate seeing dogs off leads in places where they
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: should be on a leads, so I would.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: Agree with that. But the rest of it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: Once again, the left just trying to be a kill
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: joy and now.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Trying to steal man's best friend as well. You hate everything.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: This is peakcat lady journalism as long as they leave
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: greyhound racing alone.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: It was publishing the Mother Jones Journal.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Whatever you think of dogs, they're smart enough not to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: read Mother Jones. Let's go to New South Wales where
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: earlier this month the New South Wales labor government introduced
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: anti conversion laws that make it a criminal offense to
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: try to change or suppress someone's sexuality, even through prayer
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: or counseling that that person has requested. The Antidiscrimination Commission
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: here in New South Wales says praying with a person
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: with the intent to change or suppress their sexuality or
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: gender identity is now a criminal offense and could lead
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to prosecution. Now a number of church ministers in the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: state have written an open letter to the government saying,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: in our churches we seek to honor God by welcoming
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and serving people from all backgrounds, including those who experienced
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: same sex attraction or gender dysphoria. We always aim to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: do so with love, gentleness, and respect, and we utterly
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: reject the use of any form of coercion or control.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: The open letter goes on to say that these ministers
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and members of Christian churches want to obey the government,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: want to be good citizens, but cannot and will not
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: comply with this law.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Now, the issue here at Denika.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Whatever you think about sexuality and gen put those things
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: just to the side for a moment. Does the government
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: have the right to tell you what you can and
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: cannot pray for? That's the issue here. It's not an
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: issue about sexuality or gender. It's really an issue about
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: where does the line between what the government can mandate
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: regarding how.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: You live your life.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: This goes way beyond that to what you can even
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: think in your private thoughts and how you even speak
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: to God himself.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Well, how do you police that?
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: This is the problem here, because my concern is obviously,
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: as you said, freedom of religion.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: But also freedom of conscience.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: Because you don't know what goes and goes on in
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: people's heads. And then what happens then you go to
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: say a pastor or you go to a minister and
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: you say, you know, I'm having all these thoughts, what
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: should I do?
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: And then that religious figure gives you advice?
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: And then what under these laws? Then are they going
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: to be thrown into jail? Could they be fine?
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: They should? They have a conviction. And that's the problem here.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: If you're a parent and you've got a child who's
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: confused and you don't know where to go, and you
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: naturally turn to religion, then what happens there? Look, I
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: will say this, I think conversion therapy is you know,
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: going back, particularly thirty decades ago, it was.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Really really horrific, and I don't think that we should
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: take that lightly.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that at all, and you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: I don't support it, but I worry about how far
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: this legislation actually goes. And then the other issue is
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: is gender affirming care here. I mean, this is such
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: a big issue right now here in this country. We
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: should be actually looking at banning that.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: But what happens there? Then?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: What this legislation, does Caleb, Is it replaces Christian teaching
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: with a new state based religion.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Does it not?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Because essentially we're dealing now with belief. Some people believe
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: certain things and lifestyles are perfectly fine and normal. Other
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: people have a different view. Is that the government's role
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: to tell you what you can and cannot believe?
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: But of course not, I mean, and you can't change it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: The Catholic New South Wales premier has supported this legislation.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: You can't change what people believe, and you know, to
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: make a conflation with sexuality, you know, I thought we
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: were all a gung ho on consent these days.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: But it's illegal if.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Someone comes to you and you've been a pastor, so
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: if one of your parishioners came to you and said,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: you know, I think i'm gay and I'm struggling with
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: my sexuality and I don't want to be gay, and
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I want you to pray for me, it is illegal
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: for you to do so. Someone has asked you to
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: do it, and that is.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Illegal under this law.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: One of the examples that is given by the Equality Commissioner,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Anti Discrimination Commissioner whatever they called in New South Wales
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: is that advising a gay person to be celibate would
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: be a contravention of this law. I thought it was
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: a pretty well known thing in most areas of Christianity
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: that you're celibate until you're married anyway, so you can't
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: now go around talking about what is pretty clear Christian doctrine.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: And the one that worries me the most is the
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: business around gender ideology or gender identity, because there are
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: carve outs in these laws that allow healthcare professionals to
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: talk to people who have issues with gender identity, but
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: when you read what they're talking about, it doesn't actually
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: give them a way to talk about, well, I don't
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: think you are actually having a problem with your gender identity.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: It says that you can advise people of the dangers
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: of going down the road of gender affirming care and
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: the side effects of having a sex change surgery or
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: puberty blockers or whatever it is, But there doesn't appear
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: to be a carve out anywhere that allows someone to say,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I think this is not an issue of gender dysphoria.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I think this is an issue of other mental health
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: disorders that are now leading you.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: To feel this way.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: If a healthcare professional psychologist or a psychiatrist can no
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: longer legally have those conversations with someone in New South
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Wales sitting up a situation where gender affirming care is
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: now compulsory by law, and that is dangerous and insane.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: But also it actually opens up young people and teenagers
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: to more and more mental health problems and more confusion
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: at that, and it actually opens a real can of worms.
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: And I'm just really concerned that we've seen it with
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: hate speech laws as well. It's just this constant blocking
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: of the freedoms that I think we enjoy we when
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: to be enjoying in this country, and it's blocking freedom
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: of speech essentially.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Before we get this is not a religious issue, it's
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: than that.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: A sexuality issue.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: It's an issue of are people free to speak as
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: they feel, believe as they are directed by their own conscience,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: rather than being told by the government what they can
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: and cannot believe and say about essential aspects of human life.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, very quickly, before we get to a break, these
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: money grubbing counsels, they are added again, this time in Sydney.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Two seaside councils, the Mossman and Northern Beaches Councils, are
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: cutting crook because the state government has told them that
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: they should give free parking to renters by the beach. Currently,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: these councils only give free parking at the beach to
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: people who pay the rates. But the state government says, well,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: the renters are living in your suburbs as well and
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: supporting the local businesses and all this kind of thing,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: and they're giving the money to the people who pay
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: the rates so they can pay the rate, So why shouldn't.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: They have free parking as well? Well?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine the councils don't like the sound of
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: that because it might deprive them of some revenue.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: This is in the Daily Telegraph today.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: They say Mossman Council, which rakes in three million dollars
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: in annual parking revenue, claims the changes could upset the
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: quote delicate and accepted balance achieved around parking in high
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: demand locations. I mean, for goodness sake, they reckon they're
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: going to lose five hundred k if they let the
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: renters park there for free. If you live there, why
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: shouldn't you be able to park for free?
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah? I completely agree with you, I absolutely agree.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: And the problem the worry about this though is it
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: could go to the actual owners of the property. The
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: owners don't even live in there. The owners don't live there,
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: the landlords. It needs to make sure it goes to
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: the renters.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: If that's the.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Case, does that then make the parking permit an asset
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that potentially you would sell on it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It already is that people are selling on Facebook marketplace,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: like the slips that you can put in your window
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: to get the free packing.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: It already is an asset.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: So if that's their argument, that that one's already gone
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: out the window, I mean, for goodness sake, either charge
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: everyone or no one. As far as I'm going to
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: make all the parking free, Agraham, I don't want them
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: to have any.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Imagine the council wanting to do things that actually made
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: residents lifess here and who would have thought an amazing
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: thing that would be. We're going to go to a break.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: including the reserve back saying another rate cut is not
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: needed right now because if you've got a mortgage, well
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you're doing absolutely fine.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Talk about that. Welcome back. Let's take a look at
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: what's making news tomorrow.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: We'll start with the Daily Telegraph and a story that's
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: been fairly big throughout the day Putin on a blitz
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: in our backyard question mark reads the headline. Indonesia has
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: assured Australia that reports Russia is planning to base long
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: range aircraft at one of their military facilities just fourteen
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: hundred kilometers from Darwin are incorrect. Last night, Defense Minister
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Richard Males said the reports of the prospect of Russian
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: aircraft operating from Indonesia are simply not true. However, mister
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Miles has so far not ruled out whether or not
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the Russian government had made an approach to the Indonesians. Obviously,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: if this story reported in a military journal was true,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: it would be a massive concern for Australia and a
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: massive problem for the Labor government, already perceived as weak
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: on national security just three weeks out from an election.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: The claim is not without some support that would make
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: it plausible. Indonesia recently conducted military exercises in Indonesian waters
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: with Russian warships, and of course they're president after being elected,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: within a couple of months went to visit Vladimir Putin,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: and another visit is planned for June. The other issue
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: here is, Okay, let's imagine there will be no base
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: in Indonesia for Russian aircraft. Is that to say there
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: won't be increased access for Russian military assets much as
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Australia allows access to US vessels, for instance, that would
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: be just as much a concern. So even though Indonesia
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: have said, look, it's not happening, I think it's still
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a live issue for Australia because clearly Indonesia and Russia
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: are cozying up more than they have done ever before.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, and I think this is the first time we've
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: really heard perhaps the extent to which Indonesia is indeed
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: CosIng up.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: More than ever before.
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: But what I think at once again highlights is are
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: we ready and are we prepared in this country? Is
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: defense ready in the event that, for example, something like
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: this does indeed happen.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: It was only a couple of weeks ago.
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: You remember that the Chinese were conducting those live fire
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: drills off the coast of Australia. Labor didn't know anything
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: about it, Labor Miles, you know, nobody knew anything that
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: was going on. Virgin Virgin well except sorry, the Virgin
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: airline pilots, Thank goodness for them, they knew.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: But it's another example.
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: This is another example of what's going on very potentially
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: close in our backyard, and are we prepared in this
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: country for the event if possible.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Well, well, the obvious answer is we're not. And I'll
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: take Indonesia at face value that they're not going to
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: allow this to happen. But I do think we need
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of the question of whether
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Russia made those overtures. I'm glad Indonesia sees that it
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: won't be happening, but if indeed Russia has made that
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: request and it's been knocked back, I think that ought
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: to become a large part of the negotiations to try
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: to end the war in Ukraine because it puts another
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: perspective on the way Rassia is operating, because that's far
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: that of course, has been a war and a military
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: task that's going on on the other side of the world.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: But when you've got Russia.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Potentially saying that they want to start muscling in on
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: territory much closer to us down here in Australia, that
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: has just become part of the discussion because if they
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: want to move beyond the borders of the old Soviet Union.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: That's a very different Say.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Where does that leave Donald Trump? And what would Donald
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: Trump say about that?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Well, the other thing with this is Australian need to
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: face the fact if you are going to leave your
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: country pretty much defenseless, really be surprised when major powers
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: start to move into the region.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: No.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: Correct, And that goes to the point earlier. Are we
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: really prepared.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Let's move on now to the Australian. A couple of
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: stories on the front page tomorrow. We'll start with the
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: first one, doctors versus PM three for every GP visit
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: a fantasy Labour's fly bag ship eight point six billion
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: dollar election policy promising Australians won't need a credit card
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: to see the doctor has sparked a growing backlash from
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: GPS and medical leaders, who insist many doctors won't make
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: the switch and not all patients.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: Will be bulk billed. Now, look, this.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Is fascinating to me, guys, because Anthony Albernizi has made.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: His entire election pitch solely on.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: The fact that he grabs his Medicare card. Waves it
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: about so flippantly here and there. But this story actually
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: contradicts that they're saying no, Hang on a second, that
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: whole lie of a policy. We cannot support it. And
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: we knew that this was going to be the case.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: There was never going to be any cuts to medicare
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: as they keep peddling.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: But clearly it is indeed a fantasy.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: The PM says, free doctors appointments. Doctors say no, it's
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: not happening. So I guess voters will have to work
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: out who do they believe.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Bulk billing rates have plummeted under this government? Why would
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: they turn around overnight? Pretty straightforward.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely. Let's look at the other one. On the
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: front page.
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: Native Title Failed puts big projects on hold. It says
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: that Per's new airport, runway and developments on the holiday
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: island of Rottenest are among billions of dollars worth of
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: projects and government works facing delays after the Aboriginal corporation,
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: recognized for its cultural heritage work across the metropolitan area imploded.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: This is the Wajak Aboriginal Corporation.
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: The representative has been cut off from the money that
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: flows from Australia's biggest Native title sediment following months of turmoil.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: Well well, here we go again. Now now Rottenest right
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: nest one of the beautiful places of a proud West Australia.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Myself, love Rotto, Here we go again.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: They really need to take a good look at these
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Aboriginal land corporations because they operate under completely different corporate
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: structure to the rest.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Of corporate Australia.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: And if you've ever tried to read the annual reports
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: of these outfits, and I have, they are very murky.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: It's quite unclear where all of this money actually goes.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: It just seems like a great, big Ponzi scheme and
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: sothing needs to.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Be done about it.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Major infrastructure cannot go ahead until corporations does this give
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the go ahead. You've got a runway waiting to be
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: built in Perth being held up because of arguments over
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: finances and who is the chair of the Aboriginal corporation.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Until that gets sorted, Perth commuters have to live without
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: that needed runway exactly.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: And finally, Climate donors Slave labor Links, a labor link
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: to climate charity has been receiving thousands of dollars from
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: clean energy firm backed listed in the United States over
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: concerns they use slave labor with the Greens Lobby Group
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: and it's senior advisor Simon Holmes a court having visited
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: a Chinese company accused of forced labor practices.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean this is this is hell not a
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: good look.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: You would think if you're going to destroy the environment
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: with solar farms and wind turbines, what's a bit.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Of child slave it's all for.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: It's all a bit of fun and games.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the front of the courier mail to borrow.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: We're speaking of not so cheap products. It's his rate
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: cuts off because Reserve banks is you're all doing fine,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: as young mister Grace to saying are you being served?
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: You're all doing very well, Thank you Reserve Bank, because
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: it says here the Reserve Bank has put off any
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: more interest rate relief because it's his homeowners are managing
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: to find ways to meet their extra repayments. According to
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: the latest release of the RBA's Minutes of Monetary Policy,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: a rate cut was not even discussed at its last meeting,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: chaired by Governor Michelle Bullock. They think that household budgets
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: are actually in good shape thanks to lower taxas, higher
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: wages and falling inflation, and of course the cut we
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: got in February. That may well be the case on paper,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: but I suspect people are having to meet their increased
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: repayments because whether if you want a roof over your head,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: what the hell else you're going to do.
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is from the same RBA governor who only
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: a couple of months ago that says that people will
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: really be struggling.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: In the near future.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: We'll have to start digging into their savings accounts. So yeah,
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: I do not believe this one at all.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, there is an election around the corner. That's
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: all I can say there is.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Katy Perry returns to Earth from Space Odyssey. They'll tell
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: you what when you listen to her, her head is
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: still very much in the clouds.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: It's coming up.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Some welcome back. Well, Danika, Katy Perry has returned to Earth.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Or has she?
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Oh she has a baby. You're a firework, she says.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: I tried to.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: Get into Katy Perry round, Thank you, thank you. But look, basically,
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: as you can see here, there was a crew that
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: went up for an eleven minute trip to space on
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: Jeffrey Bezos's Blue Origin spaceship. One of them was Katie Perry,
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: also his girlfriend Laurence Sanchez. But this moment from Katie Perry, well,
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: look here we go.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Please, let's play it. Where are my babies over?
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: Here?
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Go here? I left? Go there? Okay, Jadie who.
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: Now, as a woman, I certainly do not feel inspired
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: nor empowered looking at that vision.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Not just say that's me every time I get off
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: a Jetstar flight.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: That is you actually waste of the time, to be honest, James.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: But so they've landed, they've done this performance theater you
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: just got. You just wonder how you actually okay? But
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: Katy Perry, look is she okay?
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: How do you feel?
• 47:26
  Speaker 11: I feel super connected to love, so connected to love.
• 47:31
  Speaker 11: I think this experience has shown me you never know
• 47:35
  Speaker 11: how much love is inside of you. Dass are common flowers,
• 47:39
  Speaker 11: but they grow through any condition. They go through cements,
• 47:44
  Speaker 11: they go through cracks.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: They go through walls.
• 47:47
  Speaker 11: They are resilient.
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that eleven minute space trip has gone to her head.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Clearly, say Katie Perry is a space cadect.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know they did love bottom he's up there,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: But I'd say she didn't go out with a row.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: That's another We've been out with a whimper in this case.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Now, you know I love to complain about councils. We
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: did a council story earlier in the show, but we're
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: going to end the show on a council story tonight,
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: except this one's not in Australia. If you thought your
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: council was bad here in Australia, spirit thought for the
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: people of Birmingham where the rubbish men have gone on strike.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: They've been on strike for six weeks or so now,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: or just over a month. They went on strike on
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: the eleventh of March and the rubbish is now just
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: piling up on the streets of Birmingham.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: No one has picked this stuff up since.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: The eleventh of March, and it is so bad that
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: they've now called in the military. Now, Unfortunately, you're not
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: going to see any soldiers rocking up to take the
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: rubbish away. They've somehow managed the government to get a
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: small number of office based planners to provide logistical support
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: for a short time.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: They're going to head out masks.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: What the hell can't just get a working beat and
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: get people to go and send this stuff somewhere like
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Heaven's like, how hard can it be? Imagine a smell
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I know, and the fact that they've let it happen
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: for all this time.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I should say, our producers a britt he reckons it's
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: even worse than those images portrayed.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: That's it from us.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Stick Around coming up because they read a penny show,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: good Night,