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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Friday, December. First time your host
- 0:03Tom Or the game against Michigan in three hundred and sixty five days. Yes,
- 0:08next year is a leap year, so even though it's happening on November
- 0:11thirtieth, it is three hundred and sixty five days. I double checked,
- 0:14all right, So we're gonna stead be talking about the game against Michigan in
- 0:17three hundred and sixty five days. We could be talking about some games that
- 0:20could have a pretty significant impact on this year's Ohio State team, starting with
- 0:24one tonight. We're looking at some of the conference championship games. What needs
- 0:28to fall what way in order for Ohio State to maybe sneaking through the side
- 0:31door into the College Football Playoff again this year, just like they did last
- 0:35year. We'd be going through all of that. Their buddy tonygard bit Bucky
- 0:39Huddle dot com. Tony first game of any note is tonight Oregon and nine
- 0:44and a half favorite nine and a half point favorite against Washington in the PAC
- 0:47twelve Championship game. That is tonight Friday night, eight o'clock on ABC.
- 0:52To me, this one looks like they're probably whoever wins is in. Whoever
- 0:58loses is out. The only thing that could really be an issue for Ohio
- 1:03State I think in this one is if Oregon wins, but wins really really
- 1:07really close, or it goes to overtime or something like that. If Oregon
- 1:11wins by you know, a touchdown or ten points or something like that,
- 1:15it seems fine. If Washington wins, that seems fine. It seems like
- 1:19this is there's only a very very very specific circumstance where a high state can
- 1:23have an issue here. Yeah, first of all, what a tremendous game
- 1:26to go covered these two teams in Las Vegas. And then after the game
- 1:33you have the entire evening still remaining because it's like a you know, five
- 1:36o'clock kickout there or whatever. And I think we're expecting somewhat of a shootout.
- 1:41Should be up and down, should be exciting. Obviously, Oregon looking
- 1:45to exact revenge on their loss in this game earlier in the season, and
- 1:49Tom I will say they they better or else. The aggression that people and
- 1:57I'm just going to go on on aside for a second. I apologize the
- 2:00people complaining about Ryan Day not being aggressive enough against Michigan. Dan Lanning was
- 2:04very aggressive against Washington earlier in the season and they lost because of it.
- 2:09That's two sides of a coin in terms of being aggressive on fourth down and
- 2:14not being aggressive. But if they can win this game, which I think
- 2:17most people expect them to, then that loss goes out the window. And
- 2:22I'm with you, I've I think the only way that Washington loses and still
- 2:27remains in the picture is a close, hard fought, really really good loss
- 2:31for them, and that good loss would be better than some of their bad
- 2:36wins, which the committee has repeatedly held them back for. And the only
- 2:39reason they've moved them up to this point is because they've had no choice.
- 2:43They continue to win, but we know they did not like their fifteen to
- 2:46seven win against Arizona State, they did not like the nine point win over
- 2:51Stanford, and I'm sure they really did not like the three point win over
- 2:54Washington State this past week. So they've had enough games of note that they
- 3:00can drop them back with a loss and not feel too broken up about it.
- 3:06The one data point that Washington would have over Ohio State is just the
- 3:09extra win, But some of those wins are negatives in the eyes of the
- 3:15Committee, so that is Friday night. Odds are Ohio State should make it
- 3:21through Friday night with their college football playoff hope still probably decently alive. The
- 3:29next game noon on Saturday. This is probably the single biggest hurdle that Buckeye
- 3:32fans are going to need to have someone get over. They need Mike Gundy
- 3:38and the Oklahoma State Cowboys to upset Texas Texas, a fifteen and a half
- 3:43point favorite. That is noon on Saturday on ABC. These two teams have
- 3:47not played this year. Oklahoma State has won like nine of the previous thirteen
- 3:53matchups in this series, which is one of those things it doesn't seem possible.
- 3:57I think this is a different Texas team. Everything we've seen this year
- 4:00indicates this is not the same old, same old Texas. But it would
- 4:04really be helpful, Tony if this could be the same old, same old
- 4:09Texas for Ohio State's playoff chances, if the Longhorns could somehow blow this one.
- 4:14It feels like every year Ohio State has needed help in that Ohio State
- 4:16has needed help in the Big Twelve championship game, they almost never seem to
- 4:19get it. This one. They would need a lot of help. I
- 4:24think you said a lot of words, Tom, and what I think you
- 4:28didn't say was Ohio State only needs Texas to choke. That's all you needed.
- 4:33That's all you needed to say. Texas needs to choke, because that
- 4:39is kind of what they've done for a very long time. But yeah,
- 4:43Oklahoma State has won the last two and each of the last two years,
- 4:46twenty twenty two and twenty twenty one home and away. And now we were
- 4:53listening to the what the Oklahoma State BYU game in the car coming back from
- 4:57Michigan, and that was a pretty crazy end. And had it not gone
- 5:00that way, I think if bay You had come away with that one,
- 5:04then obviously we'd be seeing Oklahoma and Texas, which would be make for a
- 5:09much more likely upset for Ohio State fans. But this will be interesting because
- 5:15Oklahoma State has the nation's leading rusher. Texas has like the number five run
- 5:18defense in the nation, So it's strength against strength, and then it just
- 5:24comes down to maybe Oklahoma State quarterback Alan Bowman making plays and pen viewers not.
- 5:31And you know, I'm not going to put anything past Texas, but
- 5:34I'm also not expecting the Longhorns to get upset here. However, if they
- 5:41do, then Buckeye fans might want to start really really getting excited. Yeah,
- 5:49this does feel like the biggest hurdle that Ohio State playoff chances would have
- 5:54to get over on Saturday. If they do, get ready to start barking
- 5:59Ohio State fans because if Texas is out of the picture, then an Alabama
- 6:02win over Georgia probably gets them. You know, I think I think there's
- 6:06an argument that a one loss SEC champion Alabama doesn't get in over Texas because
- 6:12of the head to head win for Texas at at Bryant Denny earlier in the
- 6:16year. If Texas is out of the way, Alabama is probably win and
- 6:23you're in. So buck guys would need Georgia, who was a six point
- 6:26favorite to knock off the Crimson Tide. That one is four o'clock on CBS.
- 6:30I mean Tony, Which is there a way neither team makes this.
- 6:36It doesn't feel like you could see the SEC missing out entirely on the playoff,
- 6:43and I think it's I think it's more likely you see two SEC teams
- 6:46than zero. Yeah, I would agree with that, And you know,
- 6:50how how does an SEC team not make it. Obviously it's in Alabama win
- 6:57and a Texas win, and what a Florida State win. But we also
- 7:00know the Committee they have their own thoughts on Florida State as well. Now
- 7:04without Jordan Travis. So I'm operating under the premise that somebody from the SEC
- 7:13is making it, and if Alabama wins, then pretty good chance two teams
- 7:16from the SEC are making it. It's gonna get really interesting in terms of
- 7:20what happens if Texas and Alabama both win, how they're going to handle this
- 7:27because somebody is probably gonna get left out there. But in terms of Ohio
- 7:30State and fans, Buckeye fans, yeah, root for Georgia. I assume
- 7:36that won't be too difficult for you to do. Alabama has one I believe
- 7:42what seven of the last eight, but zero of the last one. Yeah,
- 7:47they lost one, lost the last one, but had you know that
- 7:51was the I think what the first time that a Nick Saban assistant had beaten
- 7:55Nick Saban. So yeah, we'll see, we'll see if the Tide can
- 8:00together. The Tide seems like they have just been sort of just barely scraping
- 8:03by and just doing enough. I mean, they almost lost it speaking of
- 8:07crazy games who listened to in the car on the way home from ann Arbor
- 8:11last weekend. Oh boy, they should have lost to Auburn. They should
- 8:13have lost to Auburn at least two different ways. And then Auburn refused to
- 8:18refuse to give it to him. And so now onto the nightcap the two
- 8:24games in primetime, the one with I think a much more direct impact on
- 8:28the Buckeyes ACC title game, Louisville and Florida State Floridas hit a two point
- 8:33five point favorite eight o'clock on ABC Tony earlier in the week. I think
- 8:39it was Bill Hancock on the playoff Committee call said it is not most deserving
- 8:45its best, Tony. Why is Florida State, who is projected as like
- 8:48a two touchdown underdog against virtually everyone in the college football playoff field potentially,
- 8:54why are they even in this conversation if it really is best and not most
- 8:56deserving, because I have not really seen it with Florida State all year,
- 9:01and with Jordan Travis or as they would call him, an Auburn Jordan Travis
- 9:05with him out now, boy, I really don't see why Florida State is
- 9:11in this conversation if it really is best and not most deserving. Yeah,
- 9:15it's gonna be interesting to see what they do because as we know, they
- 9:18start with a clean sheet each week. But if Florida State is four in
- 9:24week thirteen or whatever it is, why wouldn't it be four or so in
- 9:31week fourteen? But we also know there was Boue Corgan, the chair of
- 9:37the CFP committee, said that Florida State is a different team without Jordan Travis.
- 9:43So obviously the undefeated record is the reason they are still there, and
- 9:50they they have not moved them down yet after what the nine point win at
- 9:56Florida. They probably should have if they were going to stick to their guns
- 10:01on that and say, hey, look, this isn't the same Florida State
- 10:05team. They got a good win at Florida. I think what they're obviously
- 10:09hoping for is another obviously a loss to Louisville or some kind of unimpressive win,
- 10:15and then you move you know whomever up and move Florida State aside.
- 10:24A little subtle thing that happened in this in this game for Ohio State was
- 10:30Kentucky beating Louisville on Saturday and removing the and one record of Louisville, because
- 10:37there would have been some sort of an argument that an eleven to one Louisville
- 10:41acc Champ would have an argument over Ohio State. Now, Louisville has no
- 10:48wins of note other than Notre Dame, and I guess you could say the
- 10:50same thing of Ohio State except for the Penn State game. But getting that
- 10:56second loss eliminates them from any sort of conversation. Florida State losing to them
- 11:01eliminates them, obviously. And without a fifty nine nothing, thirty nine nothing
- 11:09emphatic win for Florida State, and this one, I expect to see them
- 11:13drop, and if the quarterback doesn't play well, they still win like thirty
- 11:16one nothing. I still wouldn't be shocked if they dropped, because at least
- 11:20when Ohio State went and beat Wisconsin fifty nine to nothing with a backup quarterback,
- 11:24that backup quarterback was lighting the Badgers up and obviously it was a huge
- 11:30part of that win in that game. Here, everybody is rooting against Florida
- 11:35State except for Florida State fans, and that includes the committee that includes the
- 11:39television execs. Probably they've got a lot of things going against them. I
- 11:45don't think they have anything going for them other than they're undefeated, and they're
- 11:50probably also hoping things other teams lose as well. And speaking of teams that
- 11:56a lot of people are probably rooting against Michigan playing against another team, speaking
- 12:01of teams with birds with teeth for mascots for some reason, Iowa the Iowa
- 12:05Hawk guys from Louisville, the Louisville Cardinals with teeth to the Iowahawkeyes with teeth,
- 12:09very unsettling. Michigan a twenty two point favorite over Iowa eight o'clock on
- 12:15Fox. This is one where I think Ohio State fans I can't imagine that
- 12:20Michigan losing would be the difference between Ohio State making it or not. But
- 12:26if Michigan looks dominant again in this game and the fact that they're playing Iowa,
- 12:30they should win something to a very small number, probably a very small
- 12:35prime number. I think that probably helps Ohio State. If you know,
- 12:41if Michigan goes out there and wins this one thirty one to three, that
- 12:43probably helps Ohio State's case in terms of, you know, hey, the
- 12:48only team to really give them a real serious run. You know, Maryland
- 12:52was kind of close, but never really threatened. Ohio State clearly was the
- 12:56biggest threat to Michigan all season, almost pulled it on Offen Ann Arbor.
- 13:01I guess Ohio State fans, I'm sure this is going to google in everyone's
- 13:05nature. It's probably an Ohio State's best interest of Michigan wins this game.
- 13:09But you know, I don't think we're going to tell an audience largely made
- 13:13up of Ohio State fans like, here's what you should do, go on,
- 13:16Painter, you face blue. I don't think even if we ask that,
- 13:20Tony, I don't think that many people would be willing to do that.
- 13:24No, And the thing is kind of like the twenty fifteen ending with
- 13:26between Michigan and Michigan State that hurt Ohio State. Ultimately, it was something
- 13:31that is a beloved moment. The trouble with a Snap is a beloved moment
- 13:35for Ohio State fans. I think Ohio Ohio State fans would gleefully watch Michigan
- 13:39lose to Iowa, knowing that it was going to cost them a shot in
- 13:43the playoffs. Anything anything bad for Michigan is something that I don't think Buckeye
- 13:48fans will ever get upset about. I do think if Iowa wins, Ohio
- 13:52State really has no argument over Michigan other than the fact that Michigan's loss will
- 13:58be worse than Ohio State's loss. But when you look at who that loss
- 14:01was too, and they had to have nature of things right there. So
- 14:03yeah, root for Michigan, I do. I do think Tom it'll be
- 14:07interesting if if Oklahoma State beats Texas and Georgia beats Alabama, the ratings for
- 14:16the ACC Championship game in the state of Ohio will be I expect to be
- 14:22higher than the ratings for the Big Ten Championship game here here in state,
- 14:28as you know, because I think everybody knows how that game game is going
- 14:31to go and it's not going to be pleasant to watch. All eyes in
- 14:33Ohio will be on the ACC Championship game. Yeah, that that could shake
- 14:39out to be a very very dramatic Saturday night in the state of Ohio.
- 14:41But there's a lot of stuff that needs to happen between here and there,
- 14:46starting tonight with the PAC twelve Championship game, and then of course the Big
- 14:50twelve Championship game and then the SEC Championship game. So you have, you
- 14:54have a lot, you have your you have your to do list. They're
- 14:58Ohio State fans. Get out the get out the face paint for all your
- 15:03different teams, and we'll see, well, we'll see where everything stands Saturday
- 15:07night, and then Sunday afternoon, we will be at the Woody Hayes Athletic
- 15:11Center talking to Ryan Day but wherever Ohio State is going bowling, whether that
- 15:15is in the College Football playoffs or not, and we'll have another breakdown of
- 15:18that. And then the basketball team opens Big Ten schedule, opens their Big
- 15:22Ten schedule on Saturday night or sorry, Sunday night against Minnesota, so we'll
- 15:26be there for that as well. So it could be it gonna be a
- 15:28rather eventful weekend in this in the city of Columbus. Get make sure your
- 15:33remote batteries are are fresh and new. Gonna be a lot of clicking around
- 15:37on the TV all day Saturday, So hopefully you guys enjoyed that, and
- 15:43we'll see how this all shakes out for Ohiose State fans. But there's gonna
- 15:46be however it shakes out, there's gonna be plenty to talk about at Buckeye
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- 16:11Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.