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President Trump in China | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty. Bill Handle here, Good morning on a Wednesday morning,
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  Speaker 1: hump Day Wednesday. It is May thirteenth. President Trump is
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  Speaker 1: now visiting with President she and Beijing and a twenty
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  Speaker 1: probably going to go into that segment, and if not,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it tomorrow because this is going to go
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  Speaker 1: on for several days. And what I do want to
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  Speaker 1: cover is the World Cup. FIFA is coming to town.
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  Speaker 1: The US, Canada, and Mexico are going to be hosting
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  Speaker 1: the various games. And what they did originally is they
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  Speaker 1: promise free public transportation for ticket holders. If you had
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  Speaker 1: a ticket, you had free transportation to go to the venues. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what happened is is that FIFA recognized the financial challenges
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  Speaker 1: of hosting the games in general, said okay, we'll let
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  Speaker 1: you and by the way, FIFA controls all this, we
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  Speaker 1: will let you charge a price to to cover the
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  Speaker 1: cost of providing the transportation. So New Jersey said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: at least we can cover some of the costs. So
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  Speaker 1: to go from downtown Manhattan where a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are staying, to MetLife Stadium. I think it's a eight
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  Speaker 1: or ten minute ride. It's going to cost one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty dollars for a round trip ticket. Normally you
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  Speaker 1: pay thirteen dollars for that ticket for a round trip ticket.
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  Speaker 1: This time around, it's one hundred and fifty dollars. And
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  Speaker 1: that there was so much backlash they graciously lowered it
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  Speaker 1: to one hundred and five dollars, but only because some sponsor,
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  Speaker 1: some unnamed corporate donors decided to jump in. So this
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  Speaker 1: all starts tomorrow. Now, the World Cup generates a bucket
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  Speaker 1: of money, but for who. For FIFA, that's it. FIFA
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  Speaker 1: is going to take in thirteen billion dollars from tickets, parking, merchandise,
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  Speaker 1: on site concessions, sponsorships, TV rights. In the meantime, the
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  Speaker 1: cities and states, they get to pay for stadium retrofits, security, transportation, administration, administration,
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  Speaker 1: fan zones where people were not actually in this statement,
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  Speaker 1: that stadium. That's a big deal people who don't have tickets.
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  Speaker 1: And not only does FIFA not share tournament revenue, local
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  Speaker 1: organizers are saying that those contracts that they signed with FIFA,
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  Speaker 1: there is no way that money can be made or recouped.
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  Speaker 1: It is impossible. Now when FIFA goes into countries like
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  Speaker 1: Russia and Qatar, they just order up new stadiums. What's it,
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  Speaker 1: we'd like a new stadium, and of course those countries
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  Speaker 1: say absolutely yes. The problem is is that when we're
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  Speaker 1: dealing with democracies, there's a lot of deal making and
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of negotiations which incidentally, at first glance said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, we're going to get some some kind of
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  Speaker 1: a benefit. No, no, FIFA gets at all. For example,
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  Speaker 1: there's now a forty eighteen competition in the World Cup
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  Speaker 1: and FIFA they get all the money now, managing partners
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  Speaker 1: across three countries, dozens of city states, transportation agencies, stadium authorities,
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  Speaker 1: host committees, satellite stadium towns. I mean, that is a big,
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  Speaker 1: big deal. The problem is is that the cities aren't
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  Speaker 1: getting the benefit. FIFA gets all of the money. And
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  Speaker 1: here's what FIFA can do. If a city doesn't like it,
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  Speaker 1: We'll go to another city. That's all because unlike the Olympics,
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  Speaker 1: which you have cities that are going wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: this is costing us way too much money. FIFA the
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  Speaker 1: World Cup, people are still just they want and so
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  Speaker 1: it's billions and billions of dollars, and right now the
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  Speaker 1: preparations are only making things a lot tougher for the hosts.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things is the crowds. American football stadiums
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  Speaker 1: deal with crowds the size all the time, but those
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  Speaker 1: fans have cars and they have to be parked. FIFA
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  Speaker 1: is demanding huge parking lot, real estate, extra large security cordens,
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  Speaker 1: space for VIP tents, Jersey sales photo ops. For example,
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  Speaker 1: you go to met Life Stadium, You're paying one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty dollar round trip for Manhattan to MetLife. There
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  Speaker 1: is no parking at all at MetLife Stadium during FIFA
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  Speaker 1: you get to figure it out yourself. Wow. So just
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  Speaker 1: to give you an idea of parking for Democratic Republic
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  Speaker 1: of Congo match against Uzbekistan one hundred dollars in Kansas City,
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  Speaker 1: Ecuador playing Corus out one hundred and twenty five dollars Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be one hundred and twenty five dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Boston Haiti versus Scotland one hundred and seventy five dollars.
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  Speaker 1: All that goes to FIFA every dime and the people
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  Speaker 1: that go there, let's say people coming into New York
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  Speaker 1: to see the world to see the FIFA World Cup.
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  Speaker 1: They come in, but they don't go to shows. They
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  Speaker 1: just get drunk at the stadium, so you have you know,
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  Speaker 1: New York doesn't do that well. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: the argument is they do worse during the World Cup
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  Speaker 1: than they normally would. And the other thing I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: end it with this is that for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: local hosts can cut a deal with sponsors, their own
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  Speaker 1: sponsors to recoup some of the money, as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: FIFA making all the arrangements. I mean, FIFA has sponsors,
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  Speaker 1: but the local committees cannot cut a deal with any
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  Speaker 1: sponsor that has already sponsored, that is already involved in FIFA,
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  Speaker 1: which makes sense. So the only thing that's left because
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  Speaker 1: Coke and American Express and everybody is going to be
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  Speaker 1: involved of course in the World Cup. So the only
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  Speaker 1: thing that's left is law firms, supplement companies. You're going
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  Speaker 1: to see local ads for penis extensions, more girth, extra length, sponsonators.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we're going to be seeing World Cup.
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  Speaker 1: God bless Yeah, all right, coming up, and you've got
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  Speaker 1: FIFA coming, the World Cup coming to Sofi, don't you
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  Speaker 1: so that's And are you gonna be able to park
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  Speaker 1: anywhere near Sofi? No, it'll be like the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: They park us off campus and make us shuttle in.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh, by the way, that one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty five one hundred and twenty five dollars transportation fee
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  Speaker 1: if you bring your own car in, which of course
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  Speaker 1: parking is it's impossible. But if you bring your own
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  Speaker 1: car in, you can park for one hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 1: five dollars, but you have to walk a mile. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: there's a World Cup. I love it all right, big,
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  Speaker 1: big international news. President Trump is in Beijing as we speak,
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  Speaker 1: and he's meeting with President g of China. And the
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  Speaker 1: President Trump is not coming in with the strength that
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  Speaker 1: he thought he was going to have because at this
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  Speaker 1: point he thought that the war would be over, that
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  Speaker 1: the United States has prevailed, and at this point it's
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  Speaker 1: anything but. And here's why it's so important in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the Iran war. Now, first of all, keep in
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  Speaker 1: mind there's going to be a range of issues. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk tech, they're gonna talk trade, they're gonna talk Taiwan,
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  Speaker 1: which is really important to China, and the US has
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  Speaker 1: been a staunch ally of Taiwan. And that's that is
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  Speaker 1: something that we have been We the United States have
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  Speaker 1: been in odds with with the with Chinese for well, frankly,
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  Speaker 1: ever since we started dealing with China when it was
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  Speaker 1: Red China. And so the President is going to come
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  Speaker 1: in and ask for cheese help. She is holding all
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  Speaker 1: the cards. She has influence in not as much as
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  Speaker 1: Russia does, or maybe as much as Russia does, but
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  Speaker 1: Russia is on the other side of our alliances. At
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  Speaker 1: this point, Russia is almost an enemy of ours. China
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  Speaker 1: n's because of the Ukraine War, China not so much.
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  Speaker 1: So one of the things that the President is going
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  Speaker 1: to ask Chi is use your influence to negotiate some
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  Speaker 1: kind of an end, some kind of a peace deal,
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  Speaker 1: opening of the Strait of Hormuz, and see what you
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  Speaker 1: can do. Two problems with that problem. Number one is
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  Speaker 1: that Iran doesn't necessarily have to. I mean, they're struggling
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  Speaker 1: like crazy, but they can probably outlast the United States
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  Speaker 1: even though their economy is devastated. And to the amount
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  Speaker 1: of influence that China actually has against an autocratic, theological,
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  Speaker 1: theocratic state like Iran, because frankly, there are a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of lunatics over there. It's that simple. And they're doing
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  Speaker 1: just great against the United States, even at the cost
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  Speaker 1: of their economy. And so the request of China to
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  Speaker 1: get involved and jump in and arrange a piece deal
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  Speaker 1: and help us out, China really doesn't care. China doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to care. Now. One of the things that is
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  Speaker 1: pretty important is China gets a huge amount of its
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  Speaker 1: oil from Iran. But China can outlast this. China is
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  Speaker 1: probably in the best position, I mean, economically we are.
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  Speaker 1: It's just going to hurt us a lot. China is
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  Speaker 1: going to be hurt worse. Iran is going to be
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  Speaker 1: hurt the most. But we have a democracy in the
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  Speaker 1: United States can only hold so much. I mean, wait
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  Speaker 1: till you see what the midterms are going to happen
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  Speaker 1: as a result of this war China. China has a
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  Speaker 1: lot more on its plate. It's dealing with trade, it's
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  Speaker 1: dealing with the balance of trade, and this relationship with
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  Speaker 1: the United States. This is pretty complicated stuff. To the
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  Speaker 1: United States, it's not complicated at all. China, help us out,
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  Speaker 1: But the philosophy of China is it's not our war.
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  Speaker 1: We really don't care. Now, we're gonna pay more for oil.
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  Speaker 1: We get that, and we're gonna have to find oil
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  Speaker 1: in another another way. Okay, it's not gonna be easy,
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  Speaker 1: but it still doesn't help us. You're on your own,
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  Speaker 1: and the weaker the United States is, the better off
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  Speaker 1: China is because economically we're at war with China, even
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  Speaker 1: with the tariffs going back and forth. Now, last year
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  Speaker 1: there was that meeting summit with Chi and President Trump
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  Speaker 1: where some of those tariffs were reduced, but they're back up,
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  Speaker 1: so don't expect too much shot of this summit. Now
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna hear no matter what it's gonna it's a
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  Speaker 1: win for us. It's a will. It doesn't matter what
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  Speaker 1: it is. We have won it. We've gotten exactly what
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  Speaker 1: we wanted. The strait of horror moves is open. Even
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  Speaker 1: if it's not, we have won the ward Jess Marco Rubio,
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  Speaker 1: even if we have not. We have decimated everything that
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  Speaker 1: Aron has. All of its military uh uh, its military
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  Speaker 1: might is gone. They don't they can't do anything. Those
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  Speaker 1: drones don't exist, those ballistic missiles don't exist because we've
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  Speaker 1: wiped them out. Well, uh, okay, you know it's a
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  Speaker 1: little more complicated than that. All right, So much for that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk a whole lot more about that because
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  Speaker 1: today all the meetings start and there'll be a state banquet,
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be high level meetings. Some are open
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  Speaker 1: to the press, summer not. And so we've got a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days of discussing everything is happening. Okay, it's
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  Speaker 1: time for our medical news. Doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical
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  Speaker 1: officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach,
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  Speaker 1: also an er, Doctor Jim. Last night we were talking
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  Speaker 1: and I asked you a simple question, and that is
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  Speaker 1: regarding this haunt of virus business, and it's become world
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  Speaker 1: news obviously ands front page world news, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: is it really that big a deal? And so I
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  Speaker 1: want to answer that if you will.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, So, I mean, yeah, we're all we all have
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  Speaker 2: a little PTSD after COVID, right, and especially for me,
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  Speaker 2: you know, dealing with people coming off cruise ships who
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  Speaker 2: are infected. You know that puts food back in a
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  Speaker 2: bad space. So, but this is not COVID, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you why it's It's not anything like that. So
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  Speaker 2: the reason it's scary is because it is a high
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  Speaker 2: consequence virus. Right when you get it, fifty percent chance
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to survive it. But that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: it's good at passing from person to person. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean that it's going to create some type of a
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  Speaker 2: pandemic again, because it he doesn't, it doesn't, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it mostly doesn't past person in person. It's mostly from
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  Speaker 2: aerosolized rodent drops. So that's aerosolized and airborne. Two different things, right.
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  Speaker 2: Aerosolized roadent droppings are when you're sweeping things up and
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  Speaker 2: you put them into the air, like you force them
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  Speaker 2: into the air. Airborne is when something just floats in
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  Speaker 2: the air, sometimes for hours after someone's been in the room.
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  Speaker 2: So that's COVID. You know, it's airborne and measles and
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  Speaker 2: things like that. But this is aerosolized, so you have
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  Speaker 2: to kick it up into the air and then inhale it.
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  Speaker 2: That's really the number one way you get it. Some
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  Speaker 2: rare cases of this ANDES virus have been past person person,
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  Speaker 2: but we don't even have any evidence that that's happened yet. Right,
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  Speaker 2: everybody who's gotten it so far have been on the
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  Speaker 2: cruise ship at least from the reports I've read, and
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  Speaker 2: from what I've heard, we've all been on the cruise
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  Speaker 2: ship or have been very close to these people, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think that this is going to turn
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  Speaker 2: into and nobody does. By the way, my opinion, nobody
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  Speaker 2: really used this is a high risk for a pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: I remember, and back to COVID, when COVID first came
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  Speaker 1: out of China, and even before it hit the United States,
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  Speaker 1: even before it really went around the world. I remember
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  Speaker 1: the news reports from the medical world saying we're in trouble,
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  Speaker 1: we are in deep trouble, and sort of knowing in
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  Speaker 1: advance how bad this was getting. Do I have that right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I actually thought we were in
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  Speaker 2: trouble many years before that with the stars one outbreak
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  Speaker 2: remember in Taipei, and then there was a brief outbreak
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  Speaker 2: in Toronto, and I thought, for sure, this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be a worldwide pandemic, you know. And my ambulance
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  Speaker 2: group actually went and picked up the doctor from the
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  Speaker 2: CDC who became infected with the first stars or that
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  Speaker 2: they believed he was infected by the time we got
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  Speaker 2: him home, and then they did all the testing and everything.
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  Speaker 2: It turned out he tested negative, brought it back thinking
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  Speaker 2: that he had this very deadly virus.
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  Speaker 1: So let me ask, if you're limiting the virus to
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  Speaker 1: those people that were on the ship and all of
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  Speaker 1: them are either testing or in quarantine. Again, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to ask, what's what's the big deal? Is it already
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  Speaker 1: taken care of at this point, it's located where it is,
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  Speaker 1: that it's going to burn itself out, they're going to
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  Speaker 1: deal with it again, Why is this such a huge deal?
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  Speaker 2: Well again, so number one, yeah, high consequence. You know,
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  Speaker 2: most half the people are going to die from it,
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  Speaker 2: so very high consequence but low risk for the general population.
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  Speaker 2: But we want to keep it that way, right, so
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  Speaker 2: good containment protocol is exactly what you want to do.
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  Speaker 2: This thing has an incubation period of up to six weeks,
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  Speaker 2: so if it is being past human to human, how
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  Speaker 2: many more humans do you want to get it? Right?
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  Speaker 1: We don't.
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  Speaker 2: We'd like no more humans to get it. So what
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  Speaker 2: they do is they'll kind of isolate these people, and
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  Speaker 2: it's it's a crazy long time. It's six weeks of isolation,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because you can come down with the symptoms later,
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  Speaker 2: you can test negative because you just don't have enough virus,
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  Speaker 2: your antibodies haven't formed yet be negative for it for
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  Speaker 2: quite a while in the beginning, so a negative test
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  Speaker 2: doesn't rule it out for you. You just have to
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  Speaker 2: be quarantined for six weeks and then if there is
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  Speaker 2: any small chance, because we do know that this Andy's
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  Speaker 2: version of the virus can be transmitted human to human
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  Speaker 2: in rare conditions, at least we won't cause any more cases.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how you get a virus like this burnout
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  Speaker 2: and to you know, disappear from human infection.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, are you at all concerned?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not concerned at all, not at all, even
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  Speaker 2: if we're treating people in the er, I mean, wearing
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  Speaker 2: a simple mask and somebody has a call, which we
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  Speaker 2: already do. Our standard you know, infection prevention protocols will
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  Speaker 2: stop any of our staff from getting this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just wondering, knowing you as long as I have, Jim,
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  Speaker 1: is it you're not concerned because of the chances of
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  Speaker 1: this thing spreading and causing the kind of death or
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  Speaker 1: you just don't care if people die. Oh no, that's me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I always get confused. All right, Back we
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  Speaker 1: go to doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical softicer for Saint
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  Speaker 1: for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center. Jim, this is one
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  Speaker 1: that why not a sweetener that could raise the risk
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  Speaker 1: of stroke? I mean, what doesn't Which sweetener is this?
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  Speaker 1: I hope it's not Splendor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the one in diet coke. So you're okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a erythrosol. It's this. So this sweetener is
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  Speaker 2: a sugar and alcohol sugar. So it's you know, been
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  Speaker 2: touted as it's more natural. It's not an artificial sweetener.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually found in nature. Your your body makes tiny
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  Speaker 2: amounts of it as well. But you know, in the
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  Speaker 2: past they've shown that there is association with cardiovascular risk
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  Speaker 2: when with rithotol can increase blood clot formation, and this
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  Speaker 2: new study it just kind of confirms with this is
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  Speaker 2: a mechanism study. It kind of showed the mechanism of
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  Speaker 2: it actually reducing some of the chemicals that your body has,
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  Speaker 2: chemicals that balance clotting, so you form blood clots, you
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  Speaker 2: melt away blood clots, and it reduces some of those
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  Speaker 2: chemicals that can melt away unnecessary or unwanted blood clots,
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  Speaker 2: and it can also cause spasms of the arteries and
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  Speaker 2: vessels so that they're tighter. So all together it can
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  Speaker 2: increase your risk of heart attack and stroke. So this
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  Speaker 2: is just again a lot of this is not that
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  Speaker 2: solid science that if you inject this stuff the person
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  Speaker 2: immediately has a stroke. It's just an association and now
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  Speaker 2: a mechanism that actually makes sense that it really does
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  Speaker 2: do this. So it's just something to be aware of
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  Speaker 2: and maybe take a look at stuff you're especially if
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  Speaker 2: you're at high risk, if you have previous strokes or
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  Speaker 2: heart attacks, have atrial fibrillation, you probably don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be adding your risk of stroke or a risk of
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  Speaker 2: clotting by eating more of this stuff. And look at
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  Speaker 2: products things like you'll see sweeteners that say monk fruit,
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  Speaker 2: for example, but the heavy lifting is being done by
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  Speaker 2: erythrotol as far as making it sweet and a lot
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  Speaker 2: in some products, so it'll say sweetened by monk fruit,
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  Speaker 2: but it's really erythrotol.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I have one wonder because you know, wake
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  Speaker 1: up every morning and give me a list of what
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  Speaker 1: causes stroke, cancer, you know, heart attacks, whatever, and every
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  Speaker 1: every day it's hundreds of them. How do they No
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  Speaker 1: one goes after this and looks for it. Do they.
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  Speaker 2: Looking for the things that cause strokes and heart attacks? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I know, but I mean I'm talking about you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at, for example, this particular product as opposed
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  Speaker 1: to cholesterol in eggs, as opposed to diet coke, but
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  Speaker 1: not the aspertain part of it as opposed to It's just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how do they get all of these thousands
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  Speaker 1: per year of connections of products that connected to some
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  Speaker 1: kind of uh an illness, a syndrome, a sickness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you basically pick what you're looking for, right,
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  Speaker 2: This is the kind of you're you're asking about. The
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  Speaker 2: scientific method really is is you have to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: figure out what you're looking for, and then you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to identify a variable that changes that might make something
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  Speaker 2: you know happen more often or less often, and you
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  Speaker 2: kind of try and prove that theory. Ideally, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: the best way to do it. But now there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of powerful studies that are association studies because you know,
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  Speaker 2: a quote big data, right, we can just throw a
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  Speaker 2: lot of data into a computer and say, hey, are
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  Speaker 2: there any things that match up here or any things
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  Speaker 2: that when you see a lot of one thing, you
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  Speaker 2: also see a lot of another that's less that's less powerful. Right,
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  Speaker 2: because association doesn't always mean cause. And we talked about
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  Speaker 2: that before. Right, the rister crows, the sun comes up.
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  Speaker 2: The rooster did not make the sun come up, come up.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody understands that. But when you see these associations, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times people think, oh no, you know that
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  Speaker 2: one is causing the other. So once you see an association,
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  Speaker 2: now you have to move on to a study that
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  Speaker 2: would look at whether it really causes it.
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  Speaker 1: Got it all right, Jim, Thanks, we'll talk again next week.
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  Speaker 1: Always a pleasure here, Okay. I just love talking about
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• 22:33
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  Speaker 1: just love all of that. All right, we're done, guys.
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