Latest / The Mark Simone Show / Ken interviews Howard Lim, Secretary of the Conservative Party of NYS.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Bill Mark Simone Show Live from the wo R Life
- 0:04Speaker 1: Back Studios. Guest hosting from Mark Today, Here's Ken Rosano.
- 0:10Speaker 1: I had a very good morning to you. Having a
- 0:11Speaker 1: conversation off air. Somebody just said I won't say who said,
- 0:15Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see how you don't find Luigi
- 0:17Speaker 1: Mangoni marginally attractive and well, I said, maybe when sometimes
- 0:23Speaker 1: his face looks puffic. Look he's a killer. I don't
- 0:26Speaker 1: find him attractive in any way. I don't like his
- 0:28Speaker 1: personality and I don't like him. He's a killer. I know, Ken,
- 0:30Speaker 1: he hasn't had his day in court. Ken, he may
- 0:33Speaker 1: not be Okay, we have videotape we have. I just
- 0:37Speaker 1: think about this. Anytime somebody says he is marginally attractive,
- 0:40Speaker 1: I say, really, you tell that to the children of
- 0:44Speaker 1: Brian Thompson, who who they've lost their dad. You tell
- 0:49Speaker 1: that to Missus Thompson, who lost her husband. I don't
- 0:52Speaker 1: find somebody who allegedly killed this individual. Whether you like
- 0:56Speaker 1: you like healthcare people or not, has nothing to do
- 0:58Speaker 1: with it. That's what changes it for me. So I'm sorry.
- 1:01Speaker 1: That's just me. I don't care how pretty some people
- 1:04Speaker 1: think the person looks. You got to look at the
- 1:06Speaker 1: entirety of the person. Seven to ten, woor the Voice
- 1:09Speaker 1: of New York. This is Ken Risotto went from Mark,
- 1:12Speaker 1: sorry to get on that stool there for a moment
- 1:14Speaker 1: and to preach, but I had to. It is a
- 1:17Speaker 1: Friday morning. Mark has the day off, and ten years ago,
- 1:21Speaker 1: if you were to call yourself a socialist, it would
- 1:25Speaker 1: have meant kissing your chances of getting elected goodbye. With
- 1:29Speaker 1: rare exceptions, of course, maybe for parts of San Francisco
- 1:32Speaker 1: or Oakland, California, New York City, you know, possibly Well,
- 1:36Speaker 1: today there are over two hundred Democratic Socialists of America
- 1:41Speaker 1: elected to various offices all over the country, in large
- 1:44Speaker 1: and small communities. And what used to be a phenomenon
- 1:47Speaker 1: experience only in those liberal urban centers is now spreading
- 1:51Speaker 1: to cities far and wide. So the question is what
- 1:53Speaker 1: is prompting it. Howard Limb is the secretary of the
- 1:56Speaker 1: New York State Conservative Party. He joins us to talk
- 1:59Speaker 1: about it. We say good morning, Howard, morning, Ken, nice
- 2:02Speaker 1: to have you back, sir. So ten to fifteen years ago,
- 2:06Speaker 1: a guy like Zoron Mandani would not have stood a
- 2:09Speaker 1: chance in hell at getting elected mayor of New York.
- 2:12Speaker 1: But here we are. So the question is what is
- 2:14Speaker 1: causing the rise of this political movement?
- 2:18Speaker 2: Well, I think the names have changed over the years.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Believe it or not. The simple word liberal used to
- 2:27Speaker 2: be the most common descriptor of Democrats, and all of
- 2:32Speaker 2: a sudden that got a bad reputation, and now they're progressives.
- 2:37Speaker 2: It's the same politicians, it's mostly the same policies, perhaps
- 2:41Speaker 2: even more radical now. In the case of New York
- 2:45Speaker 2: City's socialist Democrats, keep in mind that in New York
- 2:51Speaker 2: City there are three million Democrats. In twenty twenty five,
- 2:56Speaker 2: when Mandami won the weird ranked choice primary that the
- 3:02Speaker 2: Democrats have for their nomination, he got sixteen percent of
- 3:07Speaker 2: that of those three million Democrats because of the turn
- 3:11Speaker 2: low turnout and the fact that he just barely on
- 3:15Speaker 2: multiple rounds beat Andrew Cuomo. So he is and what
- 3:22Speaker 2: he represents is a sliver of a sliver of a sliver.
- 3:27Speaker 1: So basically, four hundred and sixty thousand votes or so
- 3:29Speaker 1: or what got a guy in a city of eight
- 3:31Speaker 1: and a half million people elected mayor?
- 3:34Speaker 2: That's right, And in a democratic primary in which there
- 3:38Speaker 2: were three million eligible Democrats and only around a million
- 3:43Speaker 2: of them showed up and less than half of them
- 3:47Speaker 2: went with Mondami.
- 3:48Speaker 1: That's amazing. It's amazing when you think about it that way.
- 3:50Speaker 1: And that's why the whole rank choice voting thing just
- 3:53Speaker 1: bothers me, you know, using the excuse that, well, it's more,
- 3:57Speaker 1: it's easier this way, you don't have to come out
- 3:59Speaker 1: and vote again about nonsense. There's got to be interior
- 4:02Speaker 1: voted for it.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken. The Democratic National Committee has just promulgated a
- 4:10Speaker 2: proposed change to their bylaws that makes ranked choice voting
- 4:16Speaker 2: illegal in the selection of delegates to the twenty twenty
- 4:24Speaker 2: eight Democratic National Convention. The Democrats have seen what can
- 4:30Speaker 2: happen when you have this convoluted, complicated, easily managed system
- 4:36Speaker 2: called ranked choice voting, and they want to make it
- 4:38Speaker 2: illegal within their own party.
- 4:41Speaker 1: But it's okay to have the Mayor of New York
- 4:43Speaker 1: collected under it. It's just ridiculous, I mean, because think
- 4:45Speaker 1: about it. You have a number of people who will
- 4:47Speaker 1: actually vote, say the top five in order, and then
- 4:51Speaker 1: you'll also have a number of people in that same
- 4:53Speaker 1: election who'll only put the first name in and they
- 4:55Speaker 1: won't put the other five. So all of a sudden
- 4:57Speaker 1: you get certain people who have a monstrous amount of
- 4:59Speaker 1: votes and other people have none because of it.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the breakdown of how the ranked choice process
- 5:07Speaker 2: worked in that primary election is out there for everyone
- 5:10Speaker 2: to see. The Working Families Party, the Democratic Socialists, the
- 5:17Speaker 2: public employee unions, all these different special groups that depend
- 5:23Speaker 2: upon government money for their sustenance had come up with
- 5:26Speaker 2: a plan in which they said, well, there are four
- 5:30Speaker 2: very progressive leftist candidates that legitimately seemed to be as
- 5:36Speaker 2: part of this field. We want to have a system
- 5:40Speaker 2: in which they can vote for anyone they want to
- 5:43Speaker 2: vote for among these four extreme leftists, but the main
- 5:47Speaker 2: thing you have to do is not put in Cuomo's name.
- 5:51Speaker 2: That system worked so that as we went through different
- 5:55Speaker 2: counts in the ranked choice system, all of the leftists
- 6:01Speaker 2: started to pile their votes up for Mondambi, who was
- 6:04Speaker 2: their first choice candidate.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Anyway, gotcha. Just reminding everybody whom we're talking to. This
- 6:09Speaker 1: is Howard Limb, who is the secretary of the New
- 6:11Speaker 1: York State Conservative Party, and it's good to have him
- 6:14Speaker 1: on here. Seven to ten wore the Voice of New
- 6:17Speaker 1: York Ken Risotto in for the great Mark Simone on
- 6:20Speaker 1: a Friday. And the question now is will this continue
- 6:23Speaker 1: to grow or is this kind of like the Tea
- 6:26Speaker 1: Party was at one point. This is a kind of
- 6:28Speaker 1: flash in the pan thing, or have they peaked or
- 6:31Speaker 1: are they still going to well.
- 6:34Speaker 2: I think you have to see the performance in the
- 6:38Speaker 2: elections just this week, in which some of the worst
- 6:43Speaker 2: examples of democratics socialists lost. Some of them did pretty well,
- 6:50Speaker 2: sometimes hiding out behind the overwhelming Democratic majorities in their
- 6:58Speaker 2: states and in some cases trying to wind back things
- 7:06Speaker 2: that they've said in the past that made them potentially
- 7:10Speaker 2: totally unelectable in the general election. We know we have
- 7:14Speaker 2: to accept the idea that in many cases the Democrats
- 7:18Speaker 2: will nominate people like this, but we can only hope
- 7:21Speaker 2: that in November, when independents and Republicans are also voting,
- 7:27Speaker 2: that these people get pushed aside.
- 7:30Speaker 1: We can only see and we can only hope. We'll
- 7:32Speaker 1: keep our figures crossed. But it's kind of unnerving to
- 7:35Speaker 1: see that, you know, it starts with the smaller election
- 7:38Speaker 1: of state Assembly position, et cetera, and then boom, before
- 7:42Speaker 1: you know what the person is mayor. And I just
- 7:45Speaker 1: and I said this earlier in the broadcast. It just
- 7:48Speaker 1: drives me insane that you have so many Republicans in
- 7:52Speaker 1: the state of New York who either A have given
- 7:55Speaker 1: up hope or B they say, I only come out
- 7:57Speaker 1: and vote for governor and president after that, I can't
- 8:01Speaker 1: be bothered. Yeah, well, this is the problem. When you
- 8:04Speaker 1: can't be bothered, you end up having a State Assembly
- 8:07Speaker 1: and a State Senate that's ninety percent liberal. And so
- 8:11Speaker 1: even if you do get a Republican governor elected, and
- 8:13Speaker 1: we keep our fingers crossed for Bruce Blakeman, when you're
- 8:16Speaker 1: dealing with the two houses up there that are so liberal,
- 8:19Speaker 1: how could you get anything done?
- 8:22Speaker 2: Well, you're right. The Sienna University poll that came out
- 8:26Speaker 2: just a few days ago shows that even within New
- 8:29Speaker 2: York State, which of course is generally viewed as a
- 8:32Speaker 2: pretty blue state, the Democratic Socialist label only has a
- 8:37Speaker 2: thirty percent favorable while it's forty seven percent unfavorable among
- 8:43Speaker 2: likely voters throughout the state, especially now. In this in
- 8:48Speaker 2: regional breakout, New York City is fifty percent favorable for
- 8:53Speaker 2: Democratic Socialists, but in the suburbs it's fifty nine percent unfavorable,
- 8:59Speaker 2: and upstate it's forty nine percent unfavorable, with I don't
- 9:03Speaker 2: want to just keep ridling off numbers, but when you
- 9:06Speaker 2: have a forty nine percent unfavorable upstate, you have to
- 9:09Speaker 2: consider that the favorable and the undecideds are broken out
- 9:14Speaker 2: in the other direction. So we really believe that Bruce,
- 9:19Speaker 2: as you were saying, gives us a good clean chance,
- 9:22Speaker 2: particularly since it's going to be much less likely that
- 9:26Speaker 2: Hockel is going to be able to disguise her relationship
- 9:31Speaker 2: with the Democratic Socialists and Mundami, since she's signed so
- 9:35Speaker 2: many of the state laws that have allowed Mountdami to
- 9:39Speaker 2: do to proceed with some of his worst policies.
- 9:42Speaker 1: She knows that if she has any shot at reelection,
- 9:44Speaker 1: she has to kiss his backside like there's no tomorrow
- 9:48Speaker 1: and make sure that he gives her a nice, warm endorsement,
- 9:52Speaker 1: or else she doesn't stand a chance. At this point,
- 9:54Speaker 1: she knows that she knows that he has her in
- 9:56Speaker 1: her back, in his back pocket. I should say, well,
- 9:59Speaker 1: Howard Limb, said Secretaria of the New York State Conservative Party.
- 10:02Speaker 1: We love when you come on. Your analysis is just wonderful,
- 10:04Speaker 1: spot on. We appreciate you. Have a wonderful day and
- 10:07Speaker 1: a great weekend you too, Thank you, sir. It is
- 10:11Speaker 1: Ken Rozotowin from Mark on your Friday seven ten WR.
- 10:14Speaker 1: When we come back, we will take more of your calls.
- 10:16Speaker 1: The number is eight hundred three two one zero seven
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- 10:23Speaker 1: WR