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10-08-26 Hour 2 - Chad Brown/Moser's breakdown of the Avs loss/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio brings you CU Buffs legend, three-time NFL pro bowler,
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  Speaker 1: and tackling machine.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk to the monster of God himself, Chad Brown.
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  Speaker 1: let's tackle some football analysis.
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  Speaker 4: Did Craigman call you, Chad? Chad Brown with us. The mother,
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  Speaker 4: or I'm sorry, the monster of God? Is that what
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  Speaker 4: he just called you?
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  Speaker 5: That is what he called me, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Have you not seen that series yet? Have you seen
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  Speaker 2: that series, Brett?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 6: What is it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's these crazies like Chad who are into reptiles.
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  Speaker 6: And they.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Chad, I don't know if you know Chad's history.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I'm well aware.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Of your reptilian tendencies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unreal, the lack of fear for him, for
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  Speaker 2: a guy like him.
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  Speaker 6: He fears.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever been afraid of a snake, Chad?
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  Speaker 5: I was in Indonesia, and there were some 18- and
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  Speaker 5: 20-foot pythons. And to walk into a cage with an
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  Speaker 5: animal that large, it was the first time in my
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  Speaker 5: life I realized that. I could possibly be prey. But
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  Speaker 5: outside of that circumstance, no, in a U.S. setting, I've
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  Speaker 5: never been afraid of a reptile. It was in the
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  Speaker 5: wilds of Indonesia where I thought, yeah, there's something out
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  Speaker 5: here that could snatch me up and end my life quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and I don't want to turn this into reptile hour.
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  Speaker 2: But you're mowing the lawn, as I do. I love
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  Speaker 2: mowing my lawn. And you're mowing along the fence line.
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  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, you happen upon a rattlesnake.
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  Speaker 2: What do I do? What's my move? What do you do? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what would your move be? What would your move be
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  Speaker 2: in that situation?
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  Speaker 5: Well, my move would be to go over there and
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  Speaker 5: hopefully get that snake and move it to a safe place.
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  Speaker 7: How?
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  Speaker 6: Your move? How? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Because I'm a skilled snake handler, I would get a
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  Speaker 5: trash can or something and maneuver the snake into a
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  Speaker 5: trash can. Rattlesnakes are typically pretty slow in their movements.
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  Speaker 5: So to get a hoe or a shovel and pick
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  Speaker 5: it up and put it into a trash can and
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  Speaker 5: move it to a safe place would be very easy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I can find a hoe.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. For you, you call animal control. Don't do anything
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  Speaker 5: with a hoe or a shovel, any related tool set.
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  Speaker 5: You call animal control and let the professionals handle that
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  Speaker 5: for you, Dick.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to do something dumb and you're going to
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  Speaker 5: hurt the animal or you're going to hurt yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 6: Now, Chad.
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  Speaker 2: Just call my wife and say, move this thing.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, true.
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  Speaker 4: Chad, I want Vic to relay something to you that
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  Speaker 4: he had an exchange yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: And Vic, just give him what you heard.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the word on the.
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  Speaker 2: Street is that Sean Payton is going to take over
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  Speaker 2: play calling duties. I did some due diligence, made some calls.
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  Speaker 2: And it turns out that. There is a movement that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be made, and I don't know the extent
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  Speaker 2: of his play-calling duties. I don't know if he's going
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  Speaker 2: to take full ownership of it, take a bigger role
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  Speaker 2: in it. But something is a-popping at Dove Valley and
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  Speaker 2: Bronco headquarters. Today we'll find out. Davis Webb, he has
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  Speaker 2: turned to speak to the media. He will be asked
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  Speaker 2: about this play-calling exchange. He will answer. I wonder how
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  Speaker 2: much Sean Payton will take over the play-calling. But he's
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  Speaker 2: taking over some of it today, Chad.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not shocked with the ineffectiveness of the offense, but
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  Speaker 5: you don't have to do a very deep dive into
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  Speaker 5: Broncos tape to see that Bo Nix needs to release
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  Speaker 5: the ball. There are certainly opportunities where he is in
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  Speaker 5: the pocket, where the protection is good, and he's not
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  Speaker 5: reading the routes down the field. There are receivers that
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  Speaker 5: have gotten separation, and he's dumping the ball down. When
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  Speaker 5: you have 214 yards of passing, but 180 of those
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  Speaker 5: yards are yards after catch, that's an indicator that you're
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  Speaker 5: not pushing the ball down the field. and becomes impossible
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  Speaker 5: to operate your offense if your quarterback is constantly checking
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  Speaker 5: it down. The safeties have no reason to stay back.
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  Speaker 5: They can come up fast against the run. They know
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  Speaker 5: nothing's going over their heads. So it compresses the run game.
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  Speaker 5: It compresses the pass game. Your quarterback has to press
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  Speaker 5: the defense and attack the defense. So maybe there is
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  Speaker 5: a play-calling component to this, but I also see a
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  Speaker 5: Bo Nix issue in this as well.
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  Speaker 2: So how would a different voice in his ear? Let's
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  Speaker 2: say Sean Payton does handle it. How would that change
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  Speaker 2: what you just described?
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: How would that change what I just described? You know,
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  Speaker 5: the play caller has an opportunity to add things into
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  Speaker 5: someone's ear other than just the play call. So if
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  Speaker 5: Davis Webb is just... giving the play call and not
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  Speaker 5: giving some kind of instruction on where he wants the
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  Speaker 5: ball to go. Maybe Sean Payton assumes that's going to
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  Speaker 5: be the difference. I'm going to call this particular play
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  Speaker 5: spider Y2 banana, and I want you to hit the banana.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what that conversation was like with Sean
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  Speaker 5: Payton and Bo Nix in the past, but if that's
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  Speaker 5: the missing piece of some kind of prompt or instruction
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  Speaker 5: to go where to go with the football, then maybe
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  Speaker 5: that's the difference between that Sean Payton is looking to
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  Speaker 5: include by taking over some of this.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Chad Brown with us. All conversations with Chad
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  Speaker 2: It's something that I thought about.
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  Speaker 3: It's so odd to me.
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  Speaker 4: And one thing is confirmed, if this is true, that
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  Speaker 4: the decree given to give up play-calling duties did not
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  Speaker 4: come above Sean Payton. Because if that happened, then he
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't be taking them over four weeks into the season.
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  Speaker 4: This was a Sean Payton decision, which leads to why
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  Speaker 4: did he do it in the first place? If this
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  Speaker 4: was going to be, if he was going to take
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  Speaker 4: the reins back this quickly, especially given the fact that Chad,
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  Speaker 4: they faced four of the best defenses in the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm trying to accept Vic's birdies and what they've
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  Speaker 5: told him, but I immediately have those same thoughts that
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  Speaker 5: you just talked about. It seems very early in this experiment.
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  Speaker 5: It seems if you were to give play calling up
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  Speaker 5: to somebody that there's got to be more of a
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  Speaker 5: window of opportunity there. You've got to– now often when
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  Speaker 5: we see Sean on the sideline and the offense is
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  Speaker 5: calling plays, Sean's got hands on knees. He doesn't seem
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  Speaker 5: to be in constant communication with his play caller. So
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  Speaker 5: I would think that would be an intermediate step rather
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  Speaker 5: than you taking over.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: This series, let's keep it on the ground early. Let's
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  Speaker 5: attack them on third down. I've heard Bill Cowher say
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  Speaker 5: that to an offensive play caller, even though Bill Cowher
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  Speaker 5: wasn't calling plays. I've heard Bill Belichick do that. So
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  Speaker 5: I've heard all kinds of coaches give a play caller
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  Speaker 5: a theme or some kind of level of instruction and
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  Speaker 5: then still left the individual play caller up to the
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  Speaker 5: play caller. So there's a middle part of that if
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  Speaker 5: Sean Payton is truly taken back over play calling, that
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  Speaker 5: would have been leaped over and been a common part
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  Speaker 5: of my football experience in the past that they have
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  Speaker 5: not done.
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  Speaker 4: Chad Brown with us. I want to play a clip
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  Speaker 4: from Bo Nix yesterday. He was talking about risk-taking. And
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  Speaker 4: this is about 40 seconds, but I want you to
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  Speaker 4: listen and get your response.
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  Speaker 9: What does the play ask for? What situation in the
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  Speaker 9: game are we? Are we in the fourth quarter to
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  Speaker 9: where we're down by eight? It doesn't matter. I got
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  Speaker 9: to do this anyway. yeah, then let's, let's do it.
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  Speaker 9: But at the same time, we weren't in that situation.
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  Speaker 9: Majority of the game to where it's just, you know,
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  Speaker 9: all or nothing, let's just be dumb. So at the
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  Speaker 9: same time is like, I want to be aggressive. I
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  Speaker 9: want to be really when it's open, let's hit it.
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  Speaker 9: But at the same time, I've been gotten too many
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  Speaker 9: times trying to do too much in this day and
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  Speaker 9: age in our offense. I don't have to be a
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  Speaker 9: hero on every play. I don't have to do too much,
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  Speaker 9: get the ball to RJ and he'll run for 20.
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  Speaker 9: You know, that's just as good as sometimes throwing it
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  Speaker 9: 20 yards in the air. I'm, Actively looking at it,
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  Speaker 9: seeing where I can grow. But the labels and stuff,
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  Speaker 9: that's where you can sort of get caught up in it.
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  Speaker 9: And if you're not careful, turnovers may go through the roof,
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  Speaker 9: and that's just not what I need to be doing.
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  Speaker 3: What's your reaction to that?
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  Speaker 5: I think that's an incomplete telling by Bo Nix. You
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  Speaker 5: don't want to turn your quarterback into some gunslinger. You're
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  Speaker 5: not looking for Jameis Winston-esque stats. not looking for 30
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  Speaker 5: touchdown passes and 30 interceptions. But just as there's a
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  Speaker 5: gray area between Davis Webb calling plays and Sean Payton
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  Speaker 5: calling plays where they're in collaboration, there's a gray area
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  Speaker 5: between Bo Nix becoming check down Charlie and Bo Nix
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  Speaker 5: becoming a gunslinger. You have to press the ball downfield. Now,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes it is smarter to take the safer dump down
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  Speaker 5: and allow your athletes to run. But if RJ Harvey,
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  Speaker 5: it keeps having 10 receptions a game, that's taking away
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  Speaker 5: receptions for wide receivers. That's taken away the ability to
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  Speaker 5: be aggressive with the defense and force them to respect
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  Speaker 5: intermediate and deeper throws and keeps the safeties back. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's not one or the other. We're not asking you,
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  Speaker 5: Bo Nix, to be a gunslinger. We're asking you to,
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  Speaker 5: on a couple of third downs, a half, press the defense,
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  Speaker 5: throw the ball deep, get the defense to respect you.
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  Speaker 5: which then opens up other things so you it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: have to be one or the other there's another place
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  Speaker 5: in the middle that we can go to and and
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  Speaker 5: i think he's in that answer really stepping over that
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  Speaker 5: and missing what i'm trying to communicate here Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 5: an opportunity to do that. You don't have to press it.
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  Speaker 5: We're not asking you to play it outside of yourself.
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  Speaker 5: We're not asking you to take sacks and hold the
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  Speaker 5: ball too long and put the ball in harm's way.
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  Speaker 5: That's not what the request is. The request is, again,
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  Speaker 5: if you've got 214 yards passing, 180 of those are
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  Speaker 5: yards after catch, that means you didn't throw the ball
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  Speaker 5: very far down the field, and it does not affect
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  Speaker 5: the defense the same way a more aggressive approach would.
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  Speaker 2: Last question on this topic and we'll move on. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I've been told, good authority, that play calling duties are
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  Speaker 2: shifting back towards Sean Payton. How much of those duties
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  Speaker 2: remain to be seen? But I'm very interested today when
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  Speaker 2: Davis Webb meets with the media. Nobody wants to be embarrassed.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody wants to go through this. Nobody wants to be
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  Speaker 2: put in the public light that, oh, it didn't. How
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  Speaker 2: do you think he'll answer the question when he's asked
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  Speaker 2: about play calling? Let's say that Sean Payton is taking
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  Speaker 2: a bigger role in this. What does Davis Webb say?
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  Speaker 5: I think he could accurately say the offense hasn't been
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  Speaker 5: what we would hope it would be. That's an actual, factual,
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  Speaker 5: true thing. And the offense has been the limiting part
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  Speaker 5: of this football team so far. That's actual and true
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  Speaker 5: as well. I'm a fan of coaches taking accountability. I
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  Speaker 5: know there's a thing. with coaches and politicians and CEOs
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  Speaker 5: where they step up and they spin things and they
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  Speaker 5: try to present a different side rather than what we're
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  Speaker 5: at with the question that's asked. So I love the
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  Speaker 5: fact that coaches are willing to stand in front of
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  Speaker 5: the media and some coaches are willing to take accountability.
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  Speaker 5: And hopefully Davis Webb does. This would be a great
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  Speaker 5: lesson for him. This would be a great feather in
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  Speaker 5: his cap when he becomes a head coach eventually down
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  Speaker 5: the line in this league, that that future owner goes, okay,
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  Speaker 5: I like this guy. He's stepping up to the mic,
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  Speaker 5: and he's taking accountability, and he's saying the truth here.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't have to say, I was awful. He can
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  Speaker 5: just say the office wasn't what it would be. The
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  Speaker 5: head coach is in charge, and he's decided to change things.
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  Speaker 5: And I am going to, as my job, assist Sean
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  Speaker 5: Payton and assist Bo Nix the absolute best way that
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  Speaker 5: I can because my obligation is not to me and
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  Speaker 5: to my glory. It's to the district.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we missed the very end of it.
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  Speaker 2: It was going to be so good, too.
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  Speaker 4: It was going to be good.
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  Speaker 2: That was going to blow the top off this place.
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  Speaker 2: It really was. We've got to get him back because
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  Speaker 2: I've got to ask him about Prime on accountability. I
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  Speaker 2: have to ask him about what's going on at CU.
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  Speaker 4: As we try and get him back, Vic, one thing
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  Speaker 4: that I heard from Chad Brown and both Bo Nix
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  Speaker 4: and Sean Payton is there's a middle ground. to what
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  Speaker 4: they're doing that they are just completely skipping over. There,
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  Speaker 4: there is a Bo Nix doesn't need to be everything
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  Speaker 4: or nothing at all.
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  Speaker 3: There is a middle ground to that.
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton doesn't have to go from I'm calling the
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  Speaker 4: plays now, or I'm not doing anything at all. There's,
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  Speaker 4: there's a middle ground to both of these. Now it
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  Speaker 4: looks like we got Chad back. So Chad, um, Vic
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  Speaker 4: has another question here regarding college football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned coaching accountability. How did it make you
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  Speaker 2: feel after the most recent CU loss where the coach
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  Speaker 2: met with the media afterwards and was asked what's wrong,
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  Speaker 2: and he pointed to the quarterback?
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  Speaker 5: That's a dereliction of coaching duty in my mind, a
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  Speaker 5: dereliction of coaching duty. You are the coach. It falls
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  Speaker 5: on you, particularly if you have said things like, I
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  Speaker 5: handpicked every player on this roster. So if you're the
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  Speaker 5: coach who's handpicked these players– and they don't perform up
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  Speaker 5: to expectations, unfortunately, I think that's someplace where you should
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  Speaker 5: take accountability. If I'm going to talk about Davis Webb
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  Speaker 5: stepping to the mic and doing that, I would love
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  Speaker 5: to see Coach Prime do that. And I did not
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  Speaker 5: think that presser after the last game against Texas Tech
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  Speaker 5: was him taking accountability at all. So very disappointing. And
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  Speaker 5: particularly from a college standpoint, we're not looking to blame
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  Speaker 5: the kids. You as a coach have to take that
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  Speaker 5: responsibility there. That's got to be on your shoulders. it
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  Speaker 5: was very ugly and unfortunate for me, and hopefully the
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  Speaker 5: next press availability, there's a far more accountable tone from
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  Speaker 5: Coach Prime.
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  Speaker 4: It's also very weird that a guy makes his first
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  Speaker 4: start for you, and you're forcing him to throw the
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  Speaker 4: ball 44 times, and he runs the ball 17 times,
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  Speaker 4: and you're saying that's his fault. That feels like a
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  Speaker 4: lot on somebody's plate for a first start, number one.
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  Speaker 4: Number two, what did you think about the playbook being found?
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  Speaker 5: Well, before I get to the playbook, there's a clip
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  Speaker 5: of coach prime at halftime saying, we're going to run
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  Speaker 5: the ball down their throats. And then you go out
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  Speaker 5: and I think you run the ball four times in the,
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  Speaker 5: in the second half. So how is this connecting? How
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  Speaker 5: is this adding up? How you're doing a proper to
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  Speaker 5: this guy in your first start, as you just mentioned,
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  Speaker 5: it has to be some kind of play call and accountability.
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  Speaker 5: And then this is the playbook issue is one of
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  Speaker 5: those details that is just so easily handled. Anytime anything
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  Speaker 5: is handed out, it has the player's number on it
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  Speaker 5: or the coach's initials on it. And then when we
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  Speaker 5: get back together after our time at the hotel, those
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  Speaker 5: things have to be turned in. And there is someone
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  Speaker 5: on the staff who is responsible for checking all of
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  Speaker 5: those off. This is not very difficult. This has been
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  Speaker 5: a part of football since I was at CU when
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  Speaker 5: we had paper playbooks. You handed those in on game day.
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  Speaker 5: You handed those in after the preparation for the week.
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  Speaker 5: So if your team is not doing some of these
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  Speaker 5: basic football things that are conventional football wisdom to ensure
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  Speaker 5: there's no lost playbooks, to ensure that there are not
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  Speaker 5: eight or nine guys on the field, when you do
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  Speaker 5: things counter to conventional football wisdom, you get counter to
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  Speaker 5: conventional football wisdom results. And we've seen how those results
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  Speaker 5: have gone for CU's offense and for CU's special teams.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I was just, sorry, last thing on this.
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  Speaker 4: The special teams part is crazy because you don't have
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  Speaker 4: a special teams coordinator, which I think they got to
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  Speaker 4: be the only school in the country that doesn't have one.
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  Speaker 4: But to have that, and then you have eight guys
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  Speaker 4: out there on special teams, you have to call a timeout,
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  Speaker 4: only to have nine guys out there afterwards is pretty nuts.
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  Speaker 5: It's bananas. Not every team has a special teams coordinator.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: When I was with the Buffs, we did not have
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: a special teams coordinator, but Coach McCartney himself coached the
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: punt team. And hey, no surprise. We were typically the
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: best punt team in the country.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Until you had to punt it to Rocket Ismail.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: I was going to go there. But outside of that circumstance,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: we were incredibly successful as a punt team. And that's
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: where Coach Matt got his confidence that, yeah, even if
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: we missed a kick, we could kick it to him
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: like Rocket and get him down. Because There were guys
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: who were starters covering those punts. I was a starter
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: at CU for four years. I was also a starter
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: at left guard on punt team for four years. So
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: Coach McCartney ensured that that was a very viable unit
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: because it was such an exchange of field position. So
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: you don't have to have a special team coordinator, but
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: the head coach has to be involved in some way
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: in special teams rather than Being upset on the sideline,
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: that's not the right number of guys on the field.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: What unit are you coaching, Coach? Gary Barnett talked about
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: the same thing at his time at CU. He did
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: not have a special teams coordinator, but he personally coached
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: one of the four special teams units.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Who you got this week?
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: I am off this week, but next week I got
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Ohio State at Indiana. Last week I had Ohio State
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: at Iowa. So Ohio State seems to be for real.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Julian's saying Indiana. Maybe playing some of the best quarterbacks.
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: In the country.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: He's better than just the best wide receiver in the country. Sorry,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: Malachi Toney. He is the best football player in college
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: in this country.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Chad Brown.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: He talks to us every single Thursday. Always appreciate it, Chad.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: Thanks, guys. Have a good one.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Texture said, when Chad's feed cut out, did he get
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: eaten by one of those pythons? Chad Brown joins us
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: every single Thursday. We will talk to Jeff.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Legwald at 9 o'clock. Stick around. It's a Nuggets ticket Thursday.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Club level seats to the home opener against the Pelicans
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: are up for grabs. Text Thomas with your first and
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: last name to 303-504-0925. Limited tickets still available for October
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: 24th at Nuggets.com slash tickets. But again, the key word
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: for this hour is Thomas. So we just talked to
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Chad Brown. We'll talk to Jeff Laywald about this. Looks
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: like Sean Payton in some capacity is going to be
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: more involved within the offense. And we'll get there in
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: a second.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: But Moj is joining us from Calgary.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Hi, Moj. What's up?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Got a cute little flowery room there, Moj. Good job
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: on the call last night. I know you had a
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: tough turnaround. So appreciate you joining us this morning.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Got to get used to that getting to the hotel
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: at like 1245, 1 a.m. thing, you know, kicking around
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: behind the TV, finding a way to hook up the
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: equipment and then going, oh yeah, I got to sleep
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: because I got to wake up in four hours. That's,
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: I got to get used to that again.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Well, can I, can I, Vic didn't want me to
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: say it, so I didn't say it. Can I say
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: the Avs got a little G'd last night?
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: Don't do it. I ain't going to do it either.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: You know why? Because man, they got a little. Yeah, listen,
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: Skinner played well early. But, you know, you've got to
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: make your own breaks in a game like that. Winnipeg
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: is so top-heavy. They're a one-line team. And when the
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: one line for Winnipeg scores all three goals for them
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: and you got a minute to go in the game
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: and they got a partial rush on you, you know,
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: partial odd man rush and you don't gap up on
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: them quite the way you should. And you allow these
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: things to happen. You deserve your fate. And they'll learn
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: from that today. I'm sure this morning in meetings and
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: film and then have something to say about it against Calgary.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: But that's just one of those, that's one of those
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: classic Vic hang around type of games. You can double
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: up shots. You can double up scoring chances. You can
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: double up this and that, and you can have, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: the better team, but unless you, Unless you play the
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: right way all the time, man, you're going to get
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: bit in the butt in this league.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I warned you about Connor, by the way. I don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: know what it is about that guy against the Avs.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: He always makes plays.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: He really does. You know, guys, he's such an underrated guy.
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: Coming into this year, he's got eight straight seasons of
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: 30 or more goals.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: He's already at five.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Riker thinks he's going to get to 50, and
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: he very well could. Now, listen, no offense to Winnipeg.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: But if this guy played in New York or this
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: guy played in Denver or this guy played in, you know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: I mean, wherever, he would be an absolute star. And
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: he is. He really is. He's an all-star. People recognize
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: how good he is. But, again, he's just kind of
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: buried north of Minnesota in Winnipeg, and that's just how
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: it goes. But he's a damn good player, that guy.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: It just feels like, man, at least a point would
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: have been sufficient last night to walk out of that
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: building– With nothing. And I know it's only game three.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: You don't get frustrated this early in the season. But
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: why is it so hard to win there? Why is
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it so hard for the Avs to get anything out
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of Winnipeg?
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: Vic, I wish I knew. Listen, the last six trips
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: into that building, you've got seven goals. That's six games.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: You got seven goals and you're one in five and
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: you're like, the hell's going on. But you recall 2024, man.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: They went in there and they just spanked Hellebuck. Spanked
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: him and the Jets. And they put, you know, 5-6-7
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: on him. You recall that, right? And Val went crazy
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: at that time and so on and so forth. Postseason,
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: no problem. But in this regular season environment, even in Denver,
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: the Jets just present some sort of silly problem for
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: this Avalanche team. It's really weird, man. Weird.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: You know, and I was thinking, Moj, Skinner is probably
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: highly motivated. to get things done this year. You know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: he finally, after years of being in Edmonton, shipped off
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh then says goodbye at the end of
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: the year. He looks at Winnipeg as, look, Hellebuck says
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: he wants out. He's suspended from the team. If I
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: play well, I could be here for a while.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: You're damn right. You're exactly right. He's got an opportunity
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: right in front of him. And so he's, I'm sure,
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: highly motivated. And he's not a bad goalie. He's not junk.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, he backstopped the team to two straight Stanley
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Cup Finals. It's just that he ain't Hellebuck because Hellebuck
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: is super elite, but that ship has sailed. Hellebuck, he
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: ain't playing another game, I don't think, for the Winnipeg Jets.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: The interesting part is that he hasn't reported. If he
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: chooses to report, they don't have to play him, but
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: they have the time that he was out, and they
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: have that same amount of time to get rid of him.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: It's a really weird... It's not weird, but it's just
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: a really unique situation. And, look, you went in there
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: last night. I thought you needed to capitalize on your
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: chances early. Yeah. I mean, you were peppering him early
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: on in that game, and you had all these odd
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: man rushes and McKinnons flying around. You had a couple
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: of hit posts. Skinner made a couple of brilliant, I mean,
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: just reactive saves. The save on Marty Nates is where
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: it went off like his inside of his elbow. You know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: he just sort of flings and you're like, Damn, is
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: that the way it's going to be tonight? Sometimes you
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: just get that dang feeling. I hate it.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Kale rips one 102 miles an hour to start the game.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: It's just like, here, eat this. You know, Vic, Bretzky, Nelly,
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: it's funny because watching games through all the years, you
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: can tell, I mean, just instantly when that puck has
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: tremendous heat on it. And I was like, whoa, holy crap.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, it was a bomb, and he stepped into
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: it like a man. Moj. Yeah. Then all of a sudden, phew, blocker.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: And it might have been just a reactionary blocker save, Vic,
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: but he made the save.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: To give up the game winner that late in the
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: game always hurts. Just walk me through. What could Sam
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Malinsky have done differently there?
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: Well, you've got the top line coming in, Vic. So
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: he's sort of drifting back a little bit into no
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: man's land. He can step up. I mean, he can
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: step up on Kyle Conner. And it's all timing play,
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: and it's all– And he tried to, at the last second,
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: get his stick on it. But part of the problem
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: is this. Kyle Conner is one of those guys who
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: can receive that pass and fire it like that. Not
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: a lot of guys can do it sort of all
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: in one motion, right? I mean, it's a very quick receive, shot,
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: kind of sliding to his right, short side. It's a really,
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: really high-end play. So I don't blame Malinsky if he
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: doesn't think that... that guy or, you know, the typical
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: guy can't do what Kyle Connor did. So he thinks
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: he's in a pretty good spot. Then he sort of,
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: he tried to go down, but Connor goes through his legs.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. The pass I thought was just as impressive.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah. It was Mark Shifley.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was sick.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: And again, they've got one scoring line for crying out
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: loud and that scoring line to counter for all three goals.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: And it probably is going to have to throughout the
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: course of the season. So Molenski can gap up, Vic,
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: which means he can get on him quicker, right? But
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: he's sort of drifting back into normal. And I'm not
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: sure he expected that pass to come across, but you've
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: got to anticipate that from a guy like Shifley. And
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: that literally is the only line that can do that
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: on that team. So you have to have that situational
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: awareness at that time. He'll learn from it. The whole
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: team will learn from it. The pass could have been denied.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: And it didn't, again, it's this Titanic. It didn't start
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: when Shifley came down the wall and made the pass.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: It started back. in the Avs' offensive zone when you
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: were late getting out of the zone and the top
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: line for the Winnipeg Jets has a partial 3-on-2. Essentially,
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: a 3-on-2.5 is what it was. You need your rush
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: coverage to be better from the get-go coming out of
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: the offensive zone.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Well, the good news is tonight you take on Calgary,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: the second leg of a back-to-back, which the Avs are
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: always good at, but also Calgary, who last year just
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: fell apart the second half of the season traded away
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: their guys, including cadre. Um, they have started this year. Oh,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: and three being outscored 16 to three in three.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Let me, uh, well, I don't want to cast
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: dispersions on anybody. They are not good.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: They're terrible.
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: They are. They are. Listen, they got a new building
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: coming in. Um, They got a new building coming in
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: next year. So we've got two more games at the Saddledome.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: I want to tell you what happened to me last night.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: And this, for the first time, was a problem for
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: me before the game got started.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Is this a good story or a bad story?
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: I think it's probably a good story.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: They've got some guys who I like. They've got, you know,
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Morgan Frost, and they've got Matt Coronado, and they've got
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: Farabee and Backlund and Sharon Govich. Okay, fine. But mostly guys,
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: these are guys who have no business being a top
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: line in the league.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: They just don't.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: If their number one center is Morgan Frost, they're going
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: to lose a lot of games. And no offense to
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: Morgan Frost, but on the abs, he'd be a three
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: at best. You know what I mean? Okay. So, and
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: Dustin Wolfe is their goalie, and he's proven to be
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: good in the past, but you need to pace him tonight.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is no holds barred. You need to
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: stick it to him. Huberto's out. Hubie Dupes, he's been
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: beat up since he got there. All right, so let
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: me explain. You've got to do the turnaround for the camera, right, Vic?
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: You've got to do your turnaround. You've got to talk
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: to the studio and that sort of thing. But where
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: we sit, the desk is about this wide. It's less
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: than a foot, okay, at Winnipeg and Calgary. And there's
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: a little plastic railing. But if you fall behind you,
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: you fall literally 150 feet straight down into the stands.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: Like if I leaned back and fell over, I would die.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: You'd fall just straight into the stands. I can't get
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: it out of my head when I'm turned around, so
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: I lean forward because I'm scared. Again, I'm thinking to myself,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: the headline, it finally happened in Winnipeg. The bench broke
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: and the guys fell out of the booth into the stands.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: I lean forward, but as I do that, I'm propping
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: myself up with my legs, but I've got to do
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: that for about seven minutes. At the end, my legs
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: are literally shaking. Not only am I scared, but they've
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: just been propping me up for so long right in
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: that weird position so we do the turnaround to then
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: start the game but my legs are still shaking and
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: my nervous system is still going like this because I
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: I'm afraid of heights I can fly an airplane but
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: I'm afraid of heights it's a really weird dynamic and
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: so I'm like I'm trying to get the words out
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: to go to the national anthems and the same thing
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: I'm sure will happen tonight in Calgary because it's even worse. Oh,
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: my God.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: It's still going.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: It's still going.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: That's a hell of a story.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: It's an even worse booth. And I just, I can't
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: get it out of my head. It scares me to death, dudes.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: I need a harness.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Now, let me tell you a little story of my
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: own after we heard your story.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, great story, huh?
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: No, it's a good story.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: It's a quality story. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Um, you've met my beautiful boy, my beautiful baby boy.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: Right, Moshe?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: You've met my beautiful boy.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Of course. Many, many, many, many, many, many times.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: How would you characterize him? He's a good kid, right?
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: Good kid. Oh, Dante's a great kid. Yeah, he's a
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: great kid. Very respectful kid. Yeah, he's very respectful. He's
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: a good kid. He texted the family chat last night.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: Sent me a picture of you. He's got a dumb cat,
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: but he's a good kid.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Sent me a picture of you and sent a text, said,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Why is Mosher rocking that crazy soul patch? So, Mike,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: this isn't me. This isn't me because, you know, I
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: pick on you a lot. This is my good kid.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: This is a cool kid.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: This is an objective, cool kid.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Good-looking lawyer kid who has now called you out.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: It's coming off today.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: We go through this all the time.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: But, Moj, Moj, maybe you keep it for one more
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: game in case you do take a header over that
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: to your death.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Maybe your soul patch can flap in the wind on
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: the way down.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: Parachute down with my soul patch. That mother trucker's coming
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: off as soon as I shower for the game today.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: Because as soon as this show is done, I'm going
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: back to bed.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: We do this all the time. I'm just curious.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: It's coming off. We belittle you.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: We have fun. And then you grow it back. Why
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: do you grow it back?
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: I was brushing my teeth last night. I don't know, Vic.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I was brushing my teeth last night
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: trying to get to sleep at like 1.30 in the morning.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: And I looked at it. And what it looks like
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: is it's about a collection of six or seven daddy
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: long legs stuck to my face backwards. So their legs
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: are going out like this. Right. It looks atrocious. It
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: looks ridiculous. It's coming off.
• 31:45
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• 31:56
  Speaker 6: If it had a little more fill-in, Brett, you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: if it wasn't such like a dolphin in daddy long legs,
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: I might be okay, but I'm not okay.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Um, Jeff Legwald is going to join us at 9
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: o'clock this morning.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Stick around.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Stories out there that are weird and dumb.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: Bye. I'm sick of this alien crap. The.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Is this for your information?
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: What's the name of this segment? Wait. Oh, by the way. Oh,
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: by the way.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: A Mexican Batman duct taping thieves to light poles.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: With Mosher Lombardi and Kane. Altitude Sports Radio 92.5. I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: like turtles.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: Stories around sports in the world we feel like you
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: should be aware of.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get back to the.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton potentially taking over play-calling duties thing here in
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: a little bit with Jeff Legwald.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: But can I start with CU?
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Bomani Jones on his podcast was talking about Deion, saying
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: that his days are numbered, he thinks.
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  Speaker 3: Here you go.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't going to work.
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  Speaker 3: That's how I feel, is that this is not going
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  Speaker 3: to work.
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  Speaker 5: He hasn't covered himself in glory. He doesn't have a
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: special teams coordinator.
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  Speaker 6: How?
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  Speaker 9: How?
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  Speaker 2: How?
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  Speaker 7: I've never heard of a team in modern times not
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: having a special teams coordinator.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: Why would you not do that?
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  Speaker 7: That's a job we have to fill.
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  Speaker 3: Who's doing that?
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: And that's why they was out there with eight dudes.
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  Speaker 5: Eight people last week, man.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: So they had to call a timeout. And then they
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: went out of the field again with the wrong number
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: of people, right?
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: Nine, yeah, right.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Who are these other two people?
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Is it the dudes that he kicked.
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: Off the team for laughing?
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: That's one part of it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Listen to this real quick.
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  Speaker 5: Travis Hunter and Shador covered up a lot of flaws
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: within that program, right? That's how good of players they are.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: I know people can * * * * on Shador now,
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: but he was a very good college quarterback.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: But my other thing is that, man, everybody fails at
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Colorado now.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: That's not a good job anymore.
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: He was in a position when they were in the
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: Big 12 and before the money really got rolling that
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: the presence of Deion Sanders gave them a comparative advantage.
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: And that comparative advantage is gone.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I think that is the most important point of this.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I think Dion, when he got here, pre-NIL, would have
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: been a lot better because you weren't competing with money
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: so much as trying to attract just people in the
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: transfer portal. Once money got thrown into the equation, it
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: negated a lot of the assets that he had.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: You're so right. You're so right. His currency was his personality.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: Correct.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: His motivation. his ability to lead men, that was.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: The currency he used.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: Being cool? Exactly right.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: The currency is now replaced by actual currency. You're so right.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: The game changed, and it happened in light speed.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: So anyway, that's what Monty Jones' thoughts on it, and
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: I tend to agree.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: That's pretty interesting. The winning has to take over, and
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: if you don't have an advantage because of the name
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: and so on, then something has to give. By the way, Nelly,
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: I just sent you something. If you could bring that
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: up for when I do my part, I would appreciate
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: it very, very much. And you can get to the chorus.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: That's fine. Oh, by the way, I've got to know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: by the way, for you. Everybody has sort of that play,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: sort of that act during a game that they try
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: to mimic when you're a kid, right? The Jordan dunk.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, me living above the rim, I'm always attempting
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the Jordan dunk from the free throw line during dunk hoops.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Everybody tries that play.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: There's going to come a day when you just can't
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: do that anymore.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic, Nikola Jokic Moshe has gotten to that day. Yesterday,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Houston Rockets players, before one of their games or at
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: their practice, were attempting the Nikola Jokic pass. And I'm
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: looking at this video saying, you know you've arrived when
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: other professional athletes are on video trying what you did
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: during an actual game. They're doing it during practice. The
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: behind-the-back length of the baseline pass, and all of them
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: tried it, but none of them really accomplished it like
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Joker did on a whim. That's when you know you're
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: big time. It is crazy.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: And to see them struggling to try and pull it
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: off in practice is hilarious to me. This guy did
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: it in-game, now preseason, but still, he could have done
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: that in any regular season game.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: They can't do it in practice. Oh, by the way.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: There's supposed to be some weather this weekend in the
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Giants game. The Giants are a 3-1 football team. Jameis
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Winston has won two consecutive games in place of Jackson Dart.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Jameis Winston was asked about the weather on Sunday, how
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: he's going to deal with it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Would you guys like to hear Jameis?
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I always do.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: I always want to hear Jameis, everything about him.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Are you aware of the weather forecast for Sunday? Could
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: be stormy. Today is beautiful. The sun is shining.
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: The birds are chirping. I can only focus on now.
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: Right now, it's a beautiful day. When Sunday comes, I'll
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: still be glad and rejoicing in the day that God
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: gives us.
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: It's important to note that when he was answering that
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: question about how it was beautiful weather outside, he started
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: gazing off Into the distance.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: In an inside area, in a building.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: With a roof. In 100 years, people will look back
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: and say, Jameis Winston was the greatest philosopher of our generation,
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: of that generation. Listen, I saw this, and Ellie, I
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: hope you have it up. You guys will appreciate this.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: I didn't realize it, but I may have to become
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: an Iowa Hawkeye fan now.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Because?
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: Because they have a band called... Van Halen.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Huh?
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: It's a Van Halen cover band dedicated to the memory
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: of former Iowa coach Hayden Fry. And they take Van
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: Halen songs and they turn them into Iowa Hawkeye songs.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: Like Panama, which is now Iowa. Iowa. If he can
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: get it. Go ahead and punt. Come on and punt.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Come on and punt is really funny, actually.
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: That's great. The Panama song is Iowa, Iowa. Anyway, they
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: have what's called the tailgate tour. So they tailgate at
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: Iowa Hawkeyes games. They tailgate around Iowa City and all
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: that kind of thing. And they all look like Hayden Fry.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: They all look, they have the mustache and the glasses.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad I wasn't paying attention during that.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: It is actually pretty good.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Hey, you guys off the top of your head, name
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: me some teams that can win the Super Bowl this
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: year in the AFC.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: Bills, Broncos, Chiefs.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Keep going.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I think Jacks.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Jacks.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Jacks are a great answer.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: I think Ravens have a chance.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Here's what's interesting.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Imagine you have a team that is good enough to
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: win a Super Bowl, and the Jags certainly have that.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Good defense, great offense.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: And for the.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Next two years, 26 of 30 games are played away
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: from your home stadium in Jacksonville.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: That's so weird.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: That's pretty tough.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Like, Jacksonville's finally got a team that they're like, hey,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: we got something cooking here.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: And because.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: they're building the new stadium and all the games that
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: they play in London, 26 of their next 30 are
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: away from Jacksonville.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's stupid. All right, I got one.
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: Wait, where are they going to play home games outside
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: of London?
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I think it's Orlando. I'll check on that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: But I think it's Orlando.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Are they not playing in.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: The Swamp?
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: Gators? Are they playing in Gainesville? Are they really? Maybe.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know. But I do know that they sort
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: of take that as a badge of honor. Kind of
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: an all-for-one, one-for-all type of idea.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I got to know, by the way, while you look
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: that up. Only Mosier and I can truly appreciate this.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: All right? We're the only ones. This might be the
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: greatest substitution stint in the history of broadcast. I've had
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to sub at times. doing play-by-play for Nuggets. Back when
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Marlo would get sick on occasion, I'd have to sub. Some,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: at times, only had like two hours notice, right?
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Whatever.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: You go in, you do the job. Moj, I'm sure
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: you've had to sub to do things, right?
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: I did. I had to do game one of the
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Stanley Cup final between the Avs and the Tampa Bay
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: Lightning because E.J. Raddick, his kid had a graduation, so
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: they asked me to fill in with Kevin Weeks.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Kenny Albert, a veteran broadcaster, Had to sub for Joe
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Davis in the National League Division Series a couple nights ago.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Joe Davis' voice went away. It just went bad. So
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: they called Kenny Albert.
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: One problem.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Kenny Albert had begun his prep for a colonoscopy. Now,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: only two of us on this show understand what prep
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: for a colonoscopy entails.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm wondering right now how deep into that prep
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: he was. Because if you're prepping young people, if you're prepping...
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: You ain't going to be able to sit there and
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: call a baseball game. You'll be able to sit there.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Sit somewhere else, maybe.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: How did he do.
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: That, Moj? I do not know. I guess it depends
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: on what part of the prep he was in. By
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: the way, I will say this. First of all, it's
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: not as bad as it used to be, only because
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: the juice tastes better than it did before, but it's
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: still horrible. I am never as hungry in my entire
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: life ever for anything as I am after my colonoscopy
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: is done and I finally get to eat again because
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: I will go to Chili's and I will eat everything
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: on the frigging menu, dude, like a pig.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I go to Denny's, you know, and I'm not, oh,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I just go to, I go to town.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: Oh, dude, it's like your whole body.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: You can't eat for two days, Brett. You know what
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: that's like?
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: It sucks. Brett, do you know what it's like?
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: No.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: By the way, just to get an answer on this,
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: because they're doing a $ 1. 4 billion renovation to the stadium
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: in Jacksonville, they're driving two hours south to play at
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Camping World Stadium in Orlando.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: Okay, that's what it is. Oh, by the way, who's
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: the guy I hate the most on the PGA Tour?
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Patrick Reed.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, he's... coming on out and talking. He's trying
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: to get back to the PGA Tour. You know, he
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: spent the last year on the European Tour, the DP
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: World Tour. And he played pretty good. But he says,
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: I just let my clubs do the talking.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: That angered you, didn't it? That angers me.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: Every fiber of my....
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: Okay. I got one. I shouldn't, Vic, I shouldn't let
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: another human whom I don't know affect my psyche the
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: way it does. But I just, everything about that, dude.
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: I got one.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: And I've suddenly become a Drake May enthusiast. Oh, by
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I'm a Drake May fan all of a sudden. He
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: was quoted as saying, and I don't know if he
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: was saying this in jest, tongue in cheek. I have
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: no idea. I'm just going to tell you what he
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: was saying. He was asked about moon landings and space
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: and all that business. And he doesn't believe that humans
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: actually have gone to the moon and landed on it.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: He says, quote, I don't know about the moon. I
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: think I could see back in the day why we
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: would put on the mask if we went there, but
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not really sure 200% if we went there or not.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I'm leaning one way or the other.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I just know I'm very skeptical about it. I mean,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: we see all these photos from the moon and stuff.
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: Come on, man.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: And space and Mars.
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: That's a long way.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm watching movies. I'm watching movies with Ryan,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: what's his name again? Gosling. Gosling and a rock. And
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: how much of this is make-believe?
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: Hey, Kyrie, Kyrie, why don't you just take the rest
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: of the show off, okay? I'm here now. Daddy's here.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Nobody's explaining to me what the point is.
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: Daddy's here to pet your little head. Don't even get
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: into this conspiracy trap.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: When the ball got knocked out of Drake May's hand.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: I just, I don't understand what's the point of doing
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: the lie.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Just to show people that there's room for growth when
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: we get overburdened here and we have to move.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: You can't move to the moon. You're telling me the
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: moon rocks that I've touched at the Smithsonian many, many times.
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: I've had this conversation with you guys. Those actually came
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: from your backyard dug up when you were building a deck.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: They got a moon rock at Wings Over the Rockies.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Again, I don't know how many times I have to
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: have this conversation with you guys. If somebody said to
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: me today, Vic, we're going to give you a choice.
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: You get to decide.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Go to the moon today with our astronauts and just
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: check it out. I mean, it's a rare opportunity. Or
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: you play 18 holes at the worst Muni in town.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Gimme golf every day. It's not even close. What the
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: hell am I going to do up there? What am
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I going to do?
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: What?
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Let's get some info on what's going to happen this weekend.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Really at 2 o'clock for this press conference with Davis Webb.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Jeff Lightwell joins us next.