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Seahawks vs Niners: Week 5 Game News, Notes, and Top Predictions · Sea Hawkers Podcast: for Seattle Seahawks fans

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  Hello, and welcome to the Sea Hawkers Podcast.
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  I'm your host Brandan Schulze, and I am joined by a couple of my good buddies
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  on a Saturday before game day as we get into our news, our notes, and, some
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  top predictions for the game tomorrow.
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  let's kick it off with my good buddy who is on the road, Clinton Bonner.
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  Hey, what's up, everybody?
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  What's up, flock?
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  I'm fired up.
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  I'm out here in Reno, Nevada.
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  Didn't get to explore too much of it.
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  Nevada.
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  Neva- … That's how East Coasters say it, the fun way, Nevada.
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  Well, hey, if you like to say it wrong- I guess it's Nevada … that's cool.
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  Yeah.
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  There you go … Co- Coloradi, you know, Missoura, and Nevada.
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  but yeah, so I'm out here.
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  It looks lovely so far.
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  Mountains and desert and blue skies.
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  Gonna be at a wedding later today, and, yeah, excited to talk Seahawks.
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  There's a bunch of news, bunch of notes, and as you guys know, we got some amazing
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  predictions because, Adam, you and I, we really cooked last week, buddy, didn't we?
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  Yeah.
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  we, we definitely cooked.
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  we cooked, salmonella in a pot.
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  Like, that's what we cooked- … because our bets turned out terrible.
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  It's been a rough start for me, in this betting season, but, look, man,
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  we're gonna have to start hitting bets because you're in Reno along with the DCH.
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  We're gonna need extra bail money, 'cause I know something's gonna go down with
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  the two of you running around out there.
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  I can't wait.
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  I'm, …
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  He's picking me up tomorrow, or I, I might go to the bar we're going to.
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  I might go beforehand.
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  He's got something going on, but, but we're meeting up
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  tomorrow to watch the game live.
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  And he goes, he s- he texts me, he goes, "Hey, big warning."
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  He's like, "This is kinda Niners land, man."
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  Yeah.
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  And I wrote, I wrote back, "Perfect.
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  I am so excited to drink some Niners tears live at the bar we're going to."
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  So to get to hang with DCH, what a, just an extra cherry on top of what's
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  a fun trip out, out west for me.
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  The closest place that Niners fans can escape California and, and still be
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  somewhat close to the Bay Area, I suppose.
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  That, that makes all the sense.
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  It does.
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  It does.
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  Well, cool.
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  All right, guys, we got a lot to get into.
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  There's not only, the game notes for…
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  We'll look at, we'll look at the injury report, we'll look at the
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  rooting guide, we will get into our Blue Friday bets, but there's some NFC
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  West news we're gonna cook on as well.
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  Adam, you came up with this lovely thumbnail, the big cat prowls,
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  because we know Leo is back.
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  We'll talk about that as well.
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  Always a reminder that, neither the Rams…
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  You guys framed it beautifully.
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  The Rams won the off-season, the 49ers won September, but Adam, who won the
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  actual Super Bowl last time it was played?
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  Oh, that's your Seattle Seahawks, who are- Yeah … hosting a team that
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  is, wildly overrated offensively.
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  And, get to find that out for themselves as they roll into,
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  Lumen One, - … as they come up from Lumen Two to compete.
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  Love that.
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  Love that.
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  And of course, folks, like, subscribe, do all the things.
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  It helps more than you know.
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  We've got more, more and more people.
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  Numbers are up, and we thank you for that, but, we…
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  Yeah, w- we can be selfish.
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  We want more.
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  So hit those likes, hit those subs, drop your comments, hit
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  the hypes, do all the things.
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  Look, Julian Love's asking you to do that.
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  You can't ignore Julian Love, because he's the man.
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  And maybe a little precursor, guys.
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  We should probably talk a little safety position, too, when we get to our
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  news and notes later for our Seahawks, because it's not just Julian back.
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  We'll talk somebody else in a second as well.
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  All right, so it is time for news and notes, but Brandan, we,
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  we were talking a little bit earlier that, look, there's some
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  NFC West news to, to maybe digest.
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  On the left-hand side there we got Schefty reporting, and Rap Report
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  confirmed that Marvin Harrison Jr.
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  is on the move.
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  We don't know where yet though, Brandan, but sounds like he gone.
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  He finally did it.
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  He's finally breaking out of Arizona.
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  It only took him 33 games of pretending to be bad, because I can't…
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  I just have to believe that a dude who was good at catching the football in
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  college doesn't suddenly become bad at catching the football unless he really
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  wants out of that poverty franchise.
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  he finally got out of there, and, good for him.
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  It sounds…
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  Some of the rumors is that the Texans had probably the most negotiations with
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  Arizona, so maybe he's going to Houston.
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  Hmm.
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  Hey, if he does, I mean, I look forward to seeing him at guard, or tackle.
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  Oh, wait, he doesn't do that for the Texans, so that's kind of a bummer.
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  really interesting.
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  I'm, I'm just curious how much, Marvin, Harrison Senior
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  had to pay in ransom money to get his son, out of the desert.
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  'Cause I'm sure Marvin Harrison Jr.
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  is elated at the opportunity to leave there and go and, be
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  able to maybe try to resurrect his career and play actual football.
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  You're right though, Brandan, it's tough to think that a guy who was so prolific
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  at catching the football in college would struggle in the NFL catching it.
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  And really, I think it's the running part, Clinton, that- Hmm
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  is the part that really betwixt us, poor Marvin Harrison Jr.
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  your time in the NFC West was lovely.
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  We'll miss you, buddy.
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  Yeah, so we saw Marlon guessing o- on, saying, hey, he thinks he's going to KC.
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  That's his guess.
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  That's a guess.
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  You mentioned Marvin Harrison.
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  Yeah, I think it's a very good guess.
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  Especially when they have, - Indeed.
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  I have another very good guess if you want to guess both.
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  I heard, but yeah, I heard that the one thing I'd saw from, I think it
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  was Sleeper, who's very good with the updates, typically very accurate
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  and usually first, - Was that Marvin Harrison, no, that MHJ Jr.
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  was not gonna be going to the Colts.
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  So interesting that of course it could be to tie back to his pops as,
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  you were referencing there, Adam.
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  But sounds like it's not the Colts.
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  Texans are, in the mix it sounds like, and then, hey, KC, Rashee
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  Rice is down for a couple of weeks.
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  They just lost, Thornton, one of their speed guys, for a few weeks, so
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  interesting to see what happens there.
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  And if it is, if it is the Chiefs, we play them in a couple weeks, so
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  that'll be ti- in time for, you know, MHJ to be maybe hooking up with
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  Mahomes and, and to play us again.
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  Which, which would be cool 'cause we just shut him down again.
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  That'd be…
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  I, I wouldn't mind shutting down, Marvin Harrison one more time
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  in a different uniform, guys.
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  I'm usually not a fan of prediction markets, but I'm guessing the prediction
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  markets got this one nailed down already.
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  Ooh, that, that'd be a cool one to check.
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  I, I agree.
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  This is a, a cool use case where you can't go manipulate it, you can just
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  kinda go maybe, find out what, what the, what the crowds are thinking.
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  'Cause you know one of the Arizona executives has money on it.
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  That exa- I was gonna say- Yeah.
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  There you go.
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  There you go … you can't manipulate it, dude.
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  Come on, now.
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  Sorry, sorry.
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  Fully, yeah.
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  Mahomes knows he's losing his job in like, you know, six months.
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  He's trying to, you know, store a little extra away for himself.
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  Fully manipulatable, therefore, go check the prediction markets.
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  That's actually way more accurate and more, more right.
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  also right on the right-hand side of the, of this, slide, I, I
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  clipped a quote from Grant, Grant Cohn, because not only is that dude
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  funny, and he's a Niners reporter, but kinda tells it like it is, and
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  I- I've grown to like that guy a lot.
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  But he puts out a tweet just yesterday saying, "This trade has been a disaster
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  for the Rams," because it's talking about, McVay, who was supposed
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  to have an update on Myles Garrett, coming to the podium being like,
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  "Mm, I thought I was gonna know more.
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  I don't got an update."
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  But guys, the funniest part about this is I think Grant Cohn's pretty much a
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  truth talker, and then the copium that's going on in the comments under it, I just
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  clipped a couple, Adam, from, Rams fans who were like, "He's gonna be back."
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  Like, "He's not dead."
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  And it's like, but in what world would you not just agree that
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  right now this is a bad trade?
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  Like, it, it's complete copium going on by the Rams, who should be one and three.
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  But I thought you might get a little bit of a fizz out of this one, Adam.
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  So if I take off my sports hate hat and I put on like an objective hat here,
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  short-term, has it been a disaster?
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  Yes.
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  Long-term- … we haven't seen yet.
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  He is going to come back.
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  We'll see if the Rams can overcome a sluggish start as they've done
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  multiple times in the McVay era to be competitive down the stretch, and
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  Garrett could be a big part of that.
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  I do think that when they get him back and Donald going, if
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  Donald can hold up his health.
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  I, I would say that's almost been more the disaster for them, is that
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  Donald's already hurt, couldn't play last week, didn't suit up for the
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  first game It's gonna be a tough road to hoe because they put a lot
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  of their eggs in this Garrett Donald basket, and it hasn't come to fruition.
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  Will it?
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  Remains to be seen.
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  I hope it doesn't.
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  That would be amazing for our deal.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's not a lot of money either.
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  It's, so it's, it's not like…
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  The, the, the thing that they're missing out on- Well- Well, as long as things
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  come together- Jack Burst … for the playoffs, that's what they're,
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  if they can make the playoffs.
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  Playoffs.
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  Exactly, though.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, th- this team might be, m- you know, in a different situation.
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  I guess the, the piece for me, though, is he's expect- expected to be back, but
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  he also wasn't expected to go have, to have to have knee surgery after game one.
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  So, you know, maybe he'll be back, but maybe he won't.
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  You, you just don't know at this point either, so.
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  look, I, my sports hate is, dripping with this one.
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  I love this one, so just wanted to bring that up because, it's always good
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  to get, you know, stick it, stick it to the Rams a little bit, Ram fan,
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  because, they're still, I don't know, they're a bloated group in my opinion.
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  But more importantly, guys, what I did this time was instead of showing
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  the injury report first, I went to the bigger stories, then the overall injury
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  re- injury report for the respective teams in case there was something
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  else that we wanted to pick up on.
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  But the biggest one, I think, yesterday, look, Upton Stout,
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  he's a good, good nickel corner.
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  He's a, he's aggressive, brings his hat, hits hard, good in coverage, a
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  very key player for this 49ers team, and he was a DNP yesterday, Brandan.
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  So he was kind of fluctuating throughout the week, and then it was
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  limited on Thursday, a DNP on Friday.
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  I think the big thing to discuss is what happens to this Niners middle
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  of the field if Upton can't go.
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  I, I guess, he, he is probably their best cover corner, but- Mm-hmm …
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  I don't necessarily, I don't know if the defense of the Niners is gonna come down
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  to whether or not one guy plays, Adam.
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  No, because what it comes down to is the s- 16 dudes that
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  have played up front for them.
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  If, Mykel Williams comes back this week- Yeah.
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  Hmm … that's where it really comes down to, is those boys up front.
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  The secondary, you look at it across the board, it sounds like Sigle's
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  injured, and it's probably gonna be Mustapha at safety, or at least that's-
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  Yes … the last thing that I had seen.
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  You know, Stout being out, like, that's definitely a downgrade for them.
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  Mustapha's decent, though, like, at safety.
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  What's that?
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  Mustapha's decent at safety.
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  I- He was projected to be the starter, but, you know- Yeah … he wasn't.
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  So I mean, you're taking one guy off the field that you liked
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  a little bit more, I guess.
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  But with that said, you said he might be their best corner, Brandan, Stout.
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  ask 49er fan, they'll tell you all about, Lenoir and how they
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  really hope that we throw at Lenoir, because he's gonna get- Well, Lenoir
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  talks like he's the best corner.
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  Like, if you were, if you were to ask- Sure does … each corner who's the
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  best corner, like, Lenoir would be very convincing that he's the best one.
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  He, he definitely has an opinion about, his place- … in this
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  league, and it may, or may be overinflated, Clinton.
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  Like, there's definitely no may not there.
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  I, I really think that this secondary is gonna look a lot like
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  last year, because it's the exact same secondary as last year, and
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  what's gonna make them effective is if they can get some pressure up front.
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  But it turns out they don't have Nick Bosa again, so that's
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  no different than last year.
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  And really, what they're gonna be relying on is blitzing Fred Warner more, as
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  they have this first half of the season.
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  So if they can't really get any extra pressure up front with this D line
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  that is- kind of full of tweeners and, and guys that really are, are
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  underperformers as a whole, then the secondary's gonna struggle as well.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, for sure, I think that is where it all starts for most NFL teams.
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  we did see that on the bottom of the screen if you're watching on YouTube.
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  If you're listening, the, a clip to something from Grant Cohn.
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  Again, just his opinion, that if, if Upton Stout can't go, and if, Jack
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  Jones has to play in his place, that Seattle's winning this football game.
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  So he clearly has an opinion of the, who backs up Upton Stout.
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  And, you know, he covers the team as a beat reporter, and not a lot of confidence
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  in who might back him up, and I guess the, our personnel who could maybe eat
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  over the middle if Upton can't play.
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  So something just to watch, and maybe as we get to the second half
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  of the show and we look at some Blue Friday bets, might come into
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  play as well, which is an underdog.
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  I don't even know why this matters, Clinton.
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  Brock Purdy is 4-0 in the regular season- Oh, yeah.
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  That's it.
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  I lose- … against the Seahawks.
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  Yeah.
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  I love that, right?
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  I mean, his regular season record is, he's unbeatable when he- So- … comes
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  into Lumen in the regular season.
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  So I'm listening to a, a, a betting podcast.
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  I li- I like, there's a betting podcast called The Betting Pros podcast.
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  They cover the whole NFL, and I just like them.
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  They're, they're good.
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  It's a derivative of, of, of their fantasy, stuff and, and they're good.
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  And they're throwing a- all these stats and it's like, "Oh, Brock
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  Pur- Purdy's undefeated at Lumen."
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  I'm like, "No, he's not."
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  Like, like, no, do games in the…
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  A- Adam, do games in the playoff- Games in the
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  playoffs don't count … yeah.
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  Do- His monkey paw wish- … was for the regular season, and he gets his wish.
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  Words matter.
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  But the…
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, words matter- Yeah, yeah … when you're wishing.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  They, …
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  True, true fact, right?
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  Stephen King taught us that.
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  Look, the last time he played a football game in Lumen, he lost 41 to 6.
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  So it- it's, it's…
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  I, I just, I was just, like, appalled by that.
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  It's like, no, he is not undefeated in Lumen Field.
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  That game actually matters.
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  Maybe even some might say matters more, 'cause that's how you
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  actually win Lombardi's, not in August and not in September, but in
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  February when it actually counts.
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  All right, we got Mike Evans on screen here.
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  Just one tough dude.
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  It looks like he has no designosh- na- no designation.
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  He's playing, but he's still banged up, Adam.
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  So do you think it matters that he's banged up, or it's just, it's just
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  the fact that hey, he's a tough guy and he's gonna go make plays 'cause
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  he's Mike Evans, he's darn good?
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  Well, first and foremost, tip of the cap to Mike Evans in a lot of respect.
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  Watching what he did versus the Broncos in term of his toughness
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  and getting out there and taking hits and, continuing to drag his
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  ass out there and make it happen.
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  Like, nothing but respect for Mike Evans.
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  He made one bad decision coming to the Niners for one last year.
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  But beyond that, I can forgive him for, you know, that right there.
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  But- … with that said, - When they brought him in, as a
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  Seahawks fan, it was like, "Okay, I think he can make you 10% better.
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  I don't think he's gonna be the field stretcher that, Niners fans all
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  felt like that he could and would be."
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  He's been kind of like a, a Super possession receiver, right?
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  And- Like a be- a better Jauan Jennings?
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  Yeah, I heard that said on the, Athletic Football Show, after
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  they talked about the Niners for 18 minutes and then the Seahawks for one.
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  in regard to this matchup.
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  But it, it doesn't allow them to push the ball down the field, Mike Evans doesn't.
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  And that's the biggest thing that I come into this game looking at,
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  Clinton, is everybody tells me this is such a different team, and it's
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  like, "Oh, but they have Kittle back."
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  Well, they had Kittle the first two games.
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  "Oh, but they've got Trent Williams."
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  Well, they had Trent Williams two out of the three games that they played, and
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  they still only scored 17 points max.
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  "But they have Mike Evans now."
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  Well, cool.
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  Well, he doesn't solve the problem that you have, which is pushing
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  the ball downfield so that Macdonald can't play top-down and just smother
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  the life out of you like a python, which is exactly what's gonna happen
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  this weekend coming up on Sunday.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah, I just wanna congratulate Mike Evans on defeating the substation,
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  because- … dude had broken ribs in Denver, versus Denver, and now he
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  didn't even make it on the injury report.
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  So- Yeah … well done, buddy.
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  Yeah, I lo- love that.
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  I mean, look, this is my Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Andy Samberg, "Stuff
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  can be two things," meme, which I, which I love to use a lot.
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  It is true that Evans and Deebo are better than Kendrick Bourne and Jauan Jennings.
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  Like, that's true.
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  And to your point, Adam, and you guys talked about on the flagship show,
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  too, like, they drafted Stribling and they had Pearsall to, to be the
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  quicker twitch and field stretchy guys.
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  And they're not here.
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  So, so if they're gonna dink and dunk against a team that, that is,
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  that rallies as well as we do, with the speed that we have because
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  of the personnel we could deploy, well, let's see how the chips fall.
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  I like our chances when the chips fall, w- if that's their game plan.
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  So, if they do get one o- u- you know, behind our safeties, I'll
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  be, A, shocked, but if they do get one, it could be a game changer.
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  So let's watch for that, but I just don't see a 60-yard over-the-top touchdown from
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  Purdy to one of these dudes happening.
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  Could you get something very well blocked or, a perfect
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  call like you did last week with Kittle's screen, tight end screen?
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  Sure.
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  You know, that's to me more likely, but I think you guys nailed it
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  with getting over the top there.
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  So putting on screen here the rest of, who's gonna, gonna
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  be playing or not playing.
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  Adam, you mentioned Mykel Williams, the, the young edge who has
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  been just oft injured so far.
• 17:13
  He is going to play, so maybe that gives them a little bit more juice
• 17:17
  off the edge with their pass rush.
• 17:19
  But Brandan, to you first, any other areas or people you wanna flag
• 17:23
  and say that's interesting to you?
• 17:25
  Well, I, I know that the Juszczyk being out is f- it could be probably
• 17:29
  the single biggest thing for them.
• 17:31
  So if, if I'm gonna point to a 49ers fan excuse, yeah, okay, Kittle
• 17:36
  is back, you got Trent Williams, but you know, not having Juszczyk,
• 17:40
  which is our, our biggest chess piece on the field according to them, then,
• 17:44
  that's gonna make the difference.
• 17:47
  Yeah.
• 17:47
  How about you, Adam?
• 17:47
  Any- anybody else besides the juice, not getting loose?
• 17:52
  Yeah, I mean, obviously the Juszczyk thing is huge here.
• 17:55
  Just kind of looking through.
• 17:58
  Yeah, I mean, you kind of covered, Sigle and Stout early on,
• 18:01
  you know, just a couple starters.
• 18:03
  I mean, I'm gonna think of nickel guys as starters, at
• 18:06
  this point in the NFL, right?
• 18:07
  Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 18:08
  Yep.
• 18:08
  Agreed.
• 18:08
  yeah.
• 18:09
  That- Yeah … that's a bummer there.
• 18:10
  But, the good- And Mykel Williams is gonna play based on
• 18:13
  that trend, you know, being limited- Yep … and then full on Friday.
• 18:16
  Right.
• 18:16
  Yeah, I saw- You know, more known for his run stuffing there … I
• 18:20
  saw something saying that he…
• 18:20
  Yeah.
• 18:20
  Oh, sorry.
• 18:20
  I saw something that he's- he's absolutely playing, like, or very expected to play.
• 18:23
  So, but, Adam, I, I cut you off there.
• 18:25
  I think you were going about his more run-stuffing ability versus
• 18:28
  maybe prowess off the edge.
• 18:30
  you didn't cut me off.
• 18:31
  We just had, the exact same start.
• 18:32
  so look, M- Mykel Williams, you know, kind of more known as a run stopper
• 18:37
  than, like, a pure pass rusher, right?
• 18:39
  And that's kind of the story of this Niners team.
• 18:42
  I keep hearing about the pressure rate that this Niners
• 18:45
  team, is able to generate.
• 18:48
  And it's like, yeah, okay.
• 18:49
  I saw that against, you know, a bunch of teams that were struggling
• 18:54
  at the time, or continue to struggle.
• 18:57
  And, I'm just not that worried about it with our front five.
• 19:01
  And so the Mykel Williams thing doesn't much move the needle for me.
• 19:06
  It probably won't.
• 19:07
  Let's…
• 19:08
  Again, we'll watch.
• 19:09
  We'll see.
• 19:09
  We'll see if the, if the young man can bring something extra to this,
• 19:13
  defensive line for, for the Niners.
• 19:15
  But, you know, game-changing plays, probably not.
• 19:18
  Probably not, right?
• 19:19
  kind of like will Mike Evans get over the top on, on a Seahawks', DB room?
• 19:24
  Probably not.
• 19:25
  So all right, let's, let us flip it over to some of the biggest news this week.
• 19:29
  Brandan, I'll toss it to you.
• 19:30
  First, he was our…
• 19:31
  You know, he's on our cover to fully oper- operational battle station.
• 19:35
  The dark side's here.
• 19:36
  Leo.
• 19:37
  Was there really ever a doubt in your mind that he was, that he might miss?
• 19:40
  Well, I think there was some concern on Thursday when he didn't practice as to
• 19:45
  whether or not that would have been a setback after being limited on Wednesday.
• 19:49
  It seemed like most of the speculation was that it was just, you know,
• 19:54
  they wanted to be smart about, his foot injury or ankle injury, and
• 20:00
  then he was full go on Friday and does not have an injury designation.
• 20:04
  So yeah, super happy to see that about Leo, 'cause we, we, we could
• 20:08
  use a little Leo Williams in this game.
• 20:11
  We sure can.
• 20:12
  Adam, if, if Purdy is to throw turdies, which he does do, how
• 20:18
  does that happen typically?
• 20:19
  How, why does, when does Purdy get flustered and throw up a turdie or two?
• 20:23
  I mean, have you not watched the 49ers this entire first four game?
• 20:26
  If Brock doesn't throw interceptions anymore.
• 20:29
  He's impossible to sack.
• 20:30
  It won't happen.
• 20:31
  He'll go through the whole season with zero sacks, and,
• 20:33
  that's the way it's gonna be.
• 20:35
  look- They get pressure up the middle and they disrupt things there,
• 20:40
  and then that kind of mush rush, that contained rush that the Seahawks
• 20:45
  are actually really good at- Yeah
• 20:47
  and are very disciplined with their rush, that's the type of
• 20:49
  thing that gets Brock rattled.
• 20:51
  And when you can't run the football and you make Purdy
• 20:54
  throw for 30, you get the 30s.
• 20:56
  That's what I said on the flagship.
• 20:57
  And, yeah, 30 or, or more attempts and it starts to get dicey for Brock.
• 21:02
  I don't care if it's, the first four games suggest
• 21:05
  otherwise according to Niner fam.
• 21:07
  Yeah, love that.
• 21:08
  And look, this is…
• 21:09
  And people, m- p- I've heard, had people like, "Oh, but
• 21:11
  Purdy's, Purdy's MVP caliber."
• 21:13
  It's like, cool.
• 21:15
  In the season where Brady, where they went se- 16 and 0, and then, you know, made
• 21:19
  it to the Super Bowl, they lost because he, they, they faced pressure up the
• 21:23
  middle from four people, from four Giants getting consistent pass rush in his face.
• 21:29
  It, it literally happened to the best of them, the best to ever
• 21:32
  play the game, Tom Brady, twice.
• 21:34
  so- Yeesh, typical East Coaster comparing the Niners to
• 21:38
  the, the Brady-led, - Well, what I'm saying- … Patriots.
• 21:42
  What I'm saying is that Purdy's good, but he's nohe- he's nowhere,
• 21:45
  he's still nowhere near Tom Brady.
• 21:46
  He's just not.
• 21:47
  So let's bring that type of heat up the middle.
• 21:49
  We're glad to have Leo back.
• 21:50
  All right.
• 21:50
  Guys, I had this open hankering, I'm not sure if that's even a thing,
• 21:54
  but I was hankering with this one.
• 21:56
  Look, Holani is all of a sudden, got, I think it's a knee or a foot,
• 22:00
  till, it's on the designation that we see next, next slide.
• 22:03
  but Holani might not- Well, he had, he had ribs and he
• 22:06
  added a knee, or vice versa.
• 22:08
  Yes.
• 22:09
  I know, I think the knee was added later in the week.
• 22:11
  Yeah, the knee was added.
• 22:12
  So all of a sudden he's limited and he's questionable, he's
• 22:14
  not trending the right way.
• 22:16
  Guys, I don't even really know who backs up Emanuel Wilson
• 22:21
  if Holani can't go, Brandan.
• 22:23
  Yeah, well, Velus Jones was the one who got called up last week, so
• 22:28
  with Jacardia Wright injured, and then the, the dude that they got
• 22:33
  from Washington, Robert Henry Jr.,
• 22:35
  could be, the other guy.
• 22:37
  I still think if, if you need a third down back, I, I think Brady Russell
• 22:42
  can play a little third down too.
• 22:44
  Mm-hmm.
• 22:44
  Yeah.
• 22:45
  So Adam, what do you think we…
• 22:46
  If, if no Holani, let's play it through, do you think we see more Velus Jones?
• 22:50
  Do you think we see the guy we just got off the UDFA heap, who, Mike
• 22:56
  Macdonald had some, some comments about this week from the podium?
• 23:00
  Where do you, where do you, who do you think we see?
• 23:02
  So listening to the press conferences, I picked up Mike talking about
• 23:06
  Velus Jones a little bit, right?
• 23:08
  And if Mike's talking about it, that means that's probably not what they're
• 23:12
  gonna do, because I think he's very disciplined and on message in, a
• 23:17
  lot of that with the press conferences.
• 23:19
  Now, then I heard Brian Fleury in his press conference yesterday, and
• 23:23
  they asked him about, the kid from the Commanders, Henry, right?
• 23:27
  He's like, "Yeah, I don't know.
• 23:28
  I wanna move on."
• 23:29
  Like, it was basically his response.
• 23:31
  Oh.
• 23:32
  I mean, he brushed it off like it was nothing, right?
• 23:34
  So- So stealthy, so you think it's stealthy?
• 23:36
  He's just like, "D- don't look over- That's right … don't
• 23:38
  look over here" type thing?
• 23:39
  That's right.
• 23:40
  And he completely brushed that off.
• 23:42
  So I think it's gonna be a little bit more Henry than anybody would expect.
• 23:48
  That's my guess- Mm.
• 23:49
  I like that … for reason.
• 23:50
  So Brandan, did you see when, Mike was asked, Macdonald was asked about it?
• 23:56
  I'm not, not sure which, which reporter it was, though we have,
• 23:58
  though we have microphones there now.
• 23:59
  We're grateful to hear the questions, which is really cool.
• 24:01
  Thank you, new owners.
• 24:02
  but he was asked about, "Hey, since Henry has been, been on a practice
• 24:07
  squad this entire time, is he more, like, game ready right now because
• 24:11
  he's been practicing every single day?"
• 24:13
  And Mike thought about it for a second.
• 24:14
  He was like, "Yeah."
• 24:15
  You know, he just flatly said, "Yeah, that's pretty…
• 24:18
  a, a fair assessment."
• 24:19
  What'd you, what'd you take, take from that?
• 24:22
  I, I, I don't know what to take from that.
• 24:24
  I, I- Fair … May- maybe Adam has a, a thought that, because yeah, I,
• 24:30
  I didn't take away anything from it.
• 24:32
  Just him talking about Henry's potential readiness?
• 24:35
  Yeah, because he's been pract- he's been on a practice squad since the
• 24:38
  draft process, and he's like, has not missed a beat this- Oh, more ready
• 24:41
  than a guy who has been at home?
• 24:44
  Yeah, I guess you'll mix it.
• 24:45
  Yeah, something like that.
• 24:46
  Maybe that was the juxtaposition they were going for.
• 24:48
  I don't know Yeah, I, I don't know.
• 24:50
  It, it, tough to take anything from that.
• 24:53
  I, that didn't really hit me.
• 24:54
  I, I did enjoy the question about Mixon though, and he's like,
• 24:58
  "It just didn't work out, so…"
• 25:02
  And then let it go.
• 25:02
  It was great.
• 25:03
  But yeah, though sometimes with the process, the process doesn't work out.
• 25:06
  Yeah, so- Yeah.
• 25:08
  That's it, process over results, right?
• 25:09
  Well, speaking of, the beautiful process, bringing the
• 25:12
  results, Reed Go Hawks, $4.99
• 25:14
  Super Chat live with us.
• 25:15
  Thank you Reed.
• 25:16
  "So excited.
• 25:17
  Might be hard to sleep tonight."
• 25:19
  Is that weird?
• 25:20
  No.
• 25:20
  I feel like we're more talented if our offense can pick it up, and, and pick
• 25:25
  it up a little, and it'll be a win.
• 25:26
  So Reed, love that.
• 25:28
  I'm out on this West Coast, guys.
• 25:29
  My East Coast clock was ticking 4:00 AM this morning Pacific Time.
• 25:34
  I woke up, and I'm like, "Okay, what do I do?"
• 25:36
  So I just did some work and did some stuff, got this show ready as well.
• 25:40
  but no, Reed, it's absolutely not, for me, not weird at all to get the,
• 25:45
  get the goosebumps, get excited, and have a little bit of hard time sleeping.
• 25:49
  But Brandan, if Reed goes to bed tonight, what should he dream of tomorrow?
• 25:53
  a Seahawks victory, obviously.
• 25:55
  Just simple, right?
• 25:56
  Simple, simple, simple.
• 25:57
  All right.
• 25:57
  Beautiful.
• 25:58
  Thank you, Reed.
• 25:58
  We appreciate you.
• 25:59
  Hey, put this back up on screen.
• 26:01
  There is a couple of players we haven't talked about yet, and there's an
• 26:04
  omission in a positive way, Adam.
• 26:07
  I'll just say it so I don't have to leave you a breadcrumb and, and maybe
• 26:10
  you can't guess in the early morning.
• 26:12
  But Ty Okada is a full go, which is great.
• 26:15
  And Mike confirmed Ty is gonna play, and this is not, probably
• 26:19
  not a rotational situation.
• 26:21
  We'll see, we'll see what they do with Rodney, who's, who's, filled in and
• 26:24
  played very well in the first four weeks.
• 26:27
  What happens to our Seahawks when we get both starting safeties
• 26:30
  back from your perspective, Adam?
• 26:32
  they get better.
• 26:34
  Because it turns out when you've got more starters on the field instead
• 26:37
  of less, your defense is then better.
• 26:40
  Look, this is really exciting having Ty Okada back.
• 26:42
  Number one, we're all biased just because of the Montana
• 26:45
  connections, me and Brandan.
• 26:46
  Mm-hmm.
• 26:46
  But, with that said, look, having this defense at the healthiest that it's
• 26:53
  really been all season, coming in to face the hottest offense in the league
• 26:58
  that can't possibly be stopped, that's gonna hang 50 on the Hawks at Lumen.
• 27:01
  it's, it's, it's really sweet to have everybody back, and that's
• 27:05
  what gives me the type of confidence that I have regarding the matchup
• 27:10
  between our defense and their offense.
• 27:12
  Like, I just- It annoys me to no end the commentary and the thought
• 27:18
  process of a lot of people coming into this week when they're just…
• 27:23
  The false narrative that this offense is so much different when it's not,
• 27:27
  and that somehow the Seahawks just aren't good anymore on defense.
• 27:30
  Like, I, I can't wait for them to shut them the [catfish] up.
• 27:34
  I can't wait.
• 27:35
  Well, Brandan, for me, as Adam's saying it, it's just like we just saw this.
• 27:41
  Like, last year at the end of the year, the Niners were on absolute fire,
• 27:44
  ripping apart bad teams, and then in, what, a span of, like, three weeks,
• 27:50
  they scored nine points against us.
• 27:52
  A- and I, I just…
• 27:54
  Is the memory in the NFL that short, I guess is the question, Brandan.
• 27:57
  I- it's a different year.
• 27:58
  It's a different team.
• 28:00
  It's the…
• 28:01
  I, I think the- The Niners are a different team or the Seahawks?
• 28:03
  Because I don't see either of these two teams- I mean, they're- … and
• 28:06
  be like, "Wow, look at that.
• 28:07
  Radically different" They're technically different, but I, I think
• 28:11
  that- Also, teams are a little bit different to start the season, too.
• 28:16
  I, I feel like the run defense hasn't been up to where we saw it toward the end
• 28:22
  of the season, so if there's, if there's any chance that Christian McCaffrey can
• 28:28
  show up a little bit more early in the season than he did late last season,
• 28:32
  I, I feel like maybe there's a chance.
• 28:34
  Th- there's been some C-gap runs that I wish guys would've maybe,
• 28:38
  played the edge a little bit better on, that I feel like if they don't
• 28:41
  get that cleaned up, like that could be a problem against the Niners.
• 28:45
  Hmm.
• 28:45
  We'll see.
• 28:46
  We'll see.
• 28:46
  I, I…
• 28:47
  Look, I think the way the Se- the Seahawks talk about it, and certainly
• 28:51
  Macdonald- They're not scoring 30, though.
• 28:54
  Correct.
• 28:54
  I don't think so either.
• 28:55
  W- we shall see.
• 28:56
  They ain't scoring 20.
• 28:57
  Well, speaking of 20, that, that's, that's the segue, boys and girls.
• 29:01
  We got one of the best, one of the best names out there, the best
• 29:04
  to do it, Senior Tiny Baby Goats.
• 29:07
  That's just a phenomenal name.
• 29:08
  A $20 live Super Chat.
• 29:09
  We appreciate that.
• 29:10
  He says, "I am excited to see our offensive scheme improve,
• 29:14
  and I'm confident they'll win.
• 29:16
  Last year, San Francisco came in late the season with a hot offense, and we showed
• 29:21
  the league the worth of their schedule."
• 29:23
  Very well put.
• 29:25
  You know, and then it happened again the Super Bowl with the worth
• 29:28
  of the Patriots' schedule, because they did not play murderer's row.
• 29:32
  And then when they play a team that could bring it for 60 full
• 29:35
  minutes, they got their asses kicked.
• 29:37
  So Senior Tiny Baby Goats, thank you very much.
• 29:39
  That's a, a great, a great job by you.
• 29:42
  and I don't want to be overconfident.
• 29:44
  The Niners are good, and Brock Brock Purdy is good.
• 29:46
  But I know that we have the right, we have the right dudes and
• 29:52
  the right rotation to continuously frustrate him throughout the
• 29:55
  game, and I know what happens when you do, because we've seen it.
• 29:58
  So I'm excited for that tomorrow.
• 29:59
  I cannot, cannot wait.
• 30:01
  And, Handel, Handel…
• 30:02
  How do you say that?
• 30:03
  Handel Naah?
• 30:04
  Handel Naah.
• 30:05
  Handel Naah saying, "Emanuel Wilson era".
• 30:07
  Hey, look, two touchdowns last week.
• 30:09
  We know he's gonna get the ball a lot this week.
• 30:11
  We still have Blue Friday bets coming up.
• 30:13
  So let's get to that second half of the show.
• 30:16
  Brandan, besides folk c- coming in live with us right now being so
• 30:20
  generous, what else can they do if they really wanna raise the hawkra?
• 30:23
  Yeah, you can go to getintheflock.com,
• 30:25
  help support the show.
• 30:27
  I know one of our members of the flock is Fernando Tejada, and,
• 30:30
  I believe this is his tag here in chat saying, "Can we use Milroe as
• 30:35
  a runner just as Shaheed last week?"
• 30:37
  I, I know with the running back room in a lot of flux, and this is probably
• 30:41
  the big question, 'cause, y- having a good run game against this Niners
• 30:44
  defense would be a, an important part.
• 30:46
  We, we don't necessarily wanna see Sam throwing it around 30-plus times.
• 30:51
  What do you guys think?
• 30:52
  Milroe as a runner, I, I don't know if we see it.
• 30:55
  I think we would just more likely see a little bit more Shaheed than seeing
• 31:00
  maybe a gadgety Milroe play, Adam.
• 31:03
  You know what's interesting is this discussion about Milroe and being put out
• 31:08
  there as a potential runner and kind of that Taysom Hill role and all that, like,
• 31:12
  I have been anti that very much so from the drafting of Milroe, let him develop
• 31:16
  as a quarterback, all that good stuff.
• 31:18
  And he is developing as a quarterback.
• 31:20
  We saw the gains that he made in the preseason.
• 31:23
  It's awesome to see he could very well be the future.
• 31:26
  This would be maybe the one kind of circumstance that I look
• 31:29
  at and I go, "You know what?
• 31:31
  Maybe now is the time to, you know, in emergency, break glass and bring
• 31:36
  Milroe out and try to get him in some packages and use that speed since we
• 31:40
  are struggling to get the edge with our backs and that sort of thing."
• 31:44
  Not as a solution long term or anything like that.
• 31:47
  We know with Price coming back and Charbonnet coming back that
• 31:50
  that's gonna be the long-term answer for those problems.
• 31:53
  But in the interim there, Clinton, I don't know, man, I, I'd be kinda into it.
• 31:59
  So it's, so first thing we gotta, we gotta watch 90 minutes
• 32:02
  before kickoff is, is he active?
• 32:04
  And I know that's tactical, but it's like, check the box there, is he active?
• 32:08
  'cause he's been inactive a couple times now this year,
• 32:10
  at least once and maybe more.
• 32:12
  for folks in, in, comments can correct me if it's more than that.
• 32:15
  So let's, let's see that first and foremost.
• 32:18
  I do think we have an opportunity to see Shaheed get three to five
• 32:22
  touches as a running back, and it, that would not shock me.
• 32:26
  Watch, I did watch Shaheed's, presser as well.
• 32:29
  And, you know, he…
• 32:30
  By the way, Shaheed is extr- dude, that guy's smart.
• 32:34
  I don't think I've ever, listened to him talk before.
• 32:37
  I'm like, "Oh, I got this g-".
• 32:38
  Oh.
• 32:38
  I didn't, I didn't…
• 32:39
  I, not, not previously, so I was like, I was like, "I mean, this is a smart dude,"
• 32:42
  which is really, really great to, to hear.
• 32:44
  But he also was pretty candid, I thought, about like, yeah, like, you know, Fleury
• 32:49
  has dis- discussed specifically like, hey, doing the Deebo thing with him,
• 32:55
  and how do they maybe get that a little bit, you know, d- do that a bit more.
• 32:58
  So interesting that he was, like, I think so forthcoming with that,
• 33:02
  and, I'd like to see that.
• 33:03
  With Milroe, to bring it back there- I, I was so into this last year.
• 33:09
  I was the Pied Piper of- … do the Taysom Hill thing, and it was so bad so early
• 33:15
  that, I've gotta be consistent and say I'm still attracted to the idea of trying
• 33:19
  it and seeing if it could be better.
• 33:22
  and see if we can get one o- over on the 49ers, because at the end of
• 33:25
  the day too, you could put Milroe back there, and he can throw the ball.
• 33:29
  He does not just have to be a decoy that's getting a snap and
• 33:31
  running it, like Wildcat style.
• 33:33
  He can throw the ball too.
• 33:34
  So, hey, maybe, maybe we get a, a chance at that.
• 33:37
  It's, it's an interesting question, for sure.
• 33:39
  If I had to guess, I'd say they don't do it, but, you know, wouldn't be,
• 33:43
  wouldn't be, poor if they did.
• 33:45
  All right.
• 33:45
  So, boys, we are going quickly to our rooting guide as well.
• 33:49
  Not as many games.
• 33:50
  There's a couple of byes this week, the bye start, so not as many games overall.
• 33:54
  But quickly running through our rooting guide, you always wanna get your Hawkra
• 33:58
  right, not just for our game, of course.
• 34:00
  That's most important, but you wanna get the gate right for
• 34:02
  all the games across the NFC.
• 34:03
  So, Commanders over the G-Men, because the G-Men are three and one.
• 34:07
  We don't need them going to four and one, so go ahead.
• 34:10
  A big, a big one, go Saints over the Vikings.
• 34:13
  The Vikings are frauds.
• 34:14
  At four and O, their defense is great.
• 34:15
  Kyler Murray stinks.
• 34:17
  He is not a good quarterback.
• 34:19
  He is not- He's not good.
• 34:21
  And they're not good with him because that's a timing offense,
• 34:24
  that Kevin O'Connell needs timing, and the scribble quarterback that
• 34:27
  he is, that is not a good offense.
• 34:30
  It's going to…
• 34:30
  It's gonna fade anyway, but I'd love to see the Saints get that
• 34:34
  dub over the Vikings and take them off the undefeated ranks.
• 34:37
  Packers are off to a terrible start, the Bears are not, so go Pack
• 34:42
  over da Bears and, you know, rest in peace to the, to the legend Dick.
• 34:46
  They're gonna be fired up, so it…
• 34:47
  I think the Bears win that game, but go Pack.
• 34:50
  Cards over Lions, Ravens over the Dirty Birds, who are suddenly playing
• 34:54
  some good football with Penix back there, and Bills by a billion on Monday
• 34:58
  Night Football over the stupid Rams.
• 35:00
  Adam, of the games on screen here, which one, which one are you most
• 35:03
  interested in besides our Seahawks?
• 35:05
  Oh, clearly it's, Bills, Rams, and- Sure … just watching that
• 35:09
  go down, see what happens there.
• 35:11
  Look, to kinda just go over a lot of this here, like,
• 35:14
  Commanders over G-Men, who cares?
• 35:15
  Neither of them are relevant.
• 35:17
  Saints over Vikes, same thing.
• 35:19
  Who cares?
• 35:20
  Not relevant.
• 35:20
  Vikes with the second-best defense in football.
• 35:23
  They'll tell you all about that they're the first best defensive football team-
• 35:25
  Well, well, let me pause you there.
• 35:26
  Yeah.
• 35:26
  But are they re- are they relevant if they somehow scrap…
• 35:29
  Let's say they scrap together a 13-win season.
• 35:31
  It's ugly, but they do it because they're 4 and 0 already.
• 35:34
  Wait, wait, wait.
• 35:35
  Do- Are you arguing that Kyler, a Kyler Murray-led football team
• 35:39
  would be relevant in the playoffs?
• 35:41
  I'm…
• 35:41
  No, no, no.
• 35:42
  No, no, no, I'm not.
• 35:43
  Okay.
• 35:43
  I'm arguing, what happens if they take away a seed from a
• 35:47
  better team like our Seahawks?
• 35:48
  Like, that- that's what I'm arguing.
• 35:50
  Like, we end up having to go on the road because the Vikings somehow, you
• 35:53
  know, the- Are they in our division now?
• 35:55
  It, it, like, what- No … what would happen if a meteor struck the Seahawks-
• 35:59
  and took them off the…
• 36:00
  Like, we're talking- Well- … about something that's so improbable-
• 36:02
  But that's- … it doesn't even matter … but, but- Like, the Vikings
• 36:04
  will be- But to say it doesn't- … 7 and 10- To say it doesn't matter-
• 36:07
  … when this is all said and done.
• 36:08
  I hope you're right.
• 36:08
  But to say it doesn't matter, I still want the Vikings to lose tomorrow, so I…
• 36:12
  But okay, you were going through them, telling me why this is
• 36:14
  all- All right … poo anyway.
• 36:15
  But anyway, who are you- anyways, - Also, I'm with the Snail.
• 36:17
  I hope that the Giants win that division, so go G-Men over the Commanders.
• 36:21
  Okay.
• 36:22
  I mean, to…
• 36:23
  They're probably the best team- I do What, are you worried about
• 36:26
  the Giants in the playoffs?
• 36:28
  like the Cowboys- I'm not worried- … at least have an offense … about
• 36:30
  the NFC East in the playoffs, man.
• 36:32
  Like what team?
• 36:33
  The, the Vikings are unraveling.
• 36:35
  The Dallas Cowboys can't find a defense for the life of them.
• 36:39
  And the- The Eagles are, the Eagles are unraveling.
• 36:41
  You said Vikings there, but the, we know what you meant.
• 36:43
  The Eagles are- Oh, did I say Vikings?
• 36:44
  Yeah, yeah.
• 36:45
  I did mean the Eagles.
• 36:46
  Thank you for the- Yeah … for the catch there.
• 36:47
  No problem.
• 36:48
  And, yeah, the G-Men, okay.
• 36:52
  they weren't a great roster to start with coming into this year, then
• 36:55
  they lose their starting quarterback and it's the Jameis experience.
• 36:58
  Like, who cares about any of these people?
• 37:01
  Packers over Bears, though.
• 37:03
  I can get on board with this because I do think the Bears are a team to be
• 37:06
  taken seriously going down the stretch.
• 37:08
  Yeah.
• 37:08
  I don't believe in their defense, but you know what?
• 37:11
  Ben Johnson on that offense.
• 37:12
  They can run the ball really, really well.
• 37:14
  Yeah, they can run the ball.
• 37:15
  Cards over Lions, this is just for, draft seeding.
• 37:19
  I think the Lions- … with their, their defense, I don't think they have a shot
• 37:23
  to make the playoffs in, Falcons.
• 37:26
  look, once a coincidence, twice a trend.
• 37:28
  Like three times I might start to believe you.
• 37:31
  Penix came back, it's helped them.
• 37:33
  Bijan is unbelievable.
• 37:35
  No doubt.
• 37:35
  So good.
• 37:35
  I need to see it for a minute, though.
• 37:38
  Well, how about you there, Brandan?
• 37:39
  Besides the Bills hopefully taking down the stupid Rams, what
• 37:42
  about that Ra- Ravens-Falcons?
• 37:43
  Is that intriguing to you?
• 37:45
  Because the Falcons were 0 and 2 with the Cooper Rush experience Yeah.
• 37:48
  which was not great, but they've won two games easily now with Penix
• 37:52
  back and Bijan just being amazing.
• 37:55
  I, I kinda like the Falcons as the team to come out of the South,
• 37:58
  so I, I, I guess it's my interest in Penix that it, it has me…
• 38:05
  I, it makes it hard for me to root against, Michael Penix and Bijan
• 38:09
  Robinson, but maybe that's why you necessarily have the Ravens over them
• 38:13
  because they're in our conference.
• 38:15
  yeah.
• 38:16
  I- Oh, you know what?
• 38:17
  You know, yeah, something to check on.
• 38:18
  Sorry to cut you off.
• 38:19
  The, - Lamar Jackson's out this week.
• 38:22
  Yeah.
• 38:23
  Oh.
• 38:23
  He's out.
• 38:24
  So they, I'm assuming they're going with Huntley and not my, not my boy
• 38:27
  Fagnano from Yukon who made the team.
• 38:29
  He's, he's good.
• 38:30
  If he gets a chance, he's gonna, he'll show everybody.
• 38:32
  He's good.
• 38:32
  But, - Okay … interesting.
• 38:34
  Okay.
• 38:34
  So no, no Lamar this week, so if the Falcons can't beat a Lamar-less Ravens,
• 38:39
  that'll be a telltale right there.
• 38:41
  Yeah, that's a problem.
• 38:41
  And that's a pretty- That division is- Dude- That's another division
• 38:46
  that I don't- But, okay- … worry too much about … I, I understand.
• 38:49
  I, I get all this.
• 38:51
  The Panthers can run the football.
• 38:52
  The Falcons can run the football.
• 38:54
  The Falcons are getting good pressure with this s- scrappy, happy hero
• 38:59
  pup line they've put together.
• 39:00
  Like, I'm just saying don't be so dismissive of teams that, like
• 39:05
  last year, teams were dismissive of us in the same, in the same way.
• 39:09
  And- It's week five.
• 39:11
  Oh, there's a massive difference between that, Clinton.
• 39:13
  Like, number one, I'm gonna need you to move west to the mountains
• 39:16
  so you can stop with this East Coast bias [catfish], all right?
• 39:19
  Like, first and foremost, right?
• 39:21
  Oh, the Giants, they might be good.
• 39:22
  Nope.
• 39:23
  oh, but the South, you know- The Panthers are pretty good
• 39:26
  you can't be dismissive of- Are the, are the Panthers not?
• 39:27
  You can't, you can't be dismissive of the South.
• 39:29
  Yes, I can.
• 39:30
  You know why?
• 39:31
  Because the difference between people being dismissive of the Seahawks last year
• 39:35
  and people being dismissive of the truly garbage NFC South is that the Seahawks
• 39:41
  were good and had a good record and kept showing it week after week, and the
• 39:46
  South is all over the fricking map- Okay
• 39:49
  every single week every game day.
• 39:50
  The Panthers lost to the Browns, Clinton.
• 39:52
  Yeah.
• 39:52
  The Pan- and the Panther- yes, and the Panthers lost, in the last second
• 39:57
  to the Rams last year, and they went, they, they, they should've won that game.
• 40:02
  So- I'm just asking for a little bit of like, maybe they're okay.
• 40:07
  Okay, so- Maybe they're pretty good.
• 40:08
  Maybe they're pretty good.
• 40:09
  Let, let me…
• 40:09
  You put a lot of eggs in the basket of September Tua, I mean Bryce Young.
• 40:14
  Because it's the same crap.
• 40:17
  It, oh, a noodle-armed quarterback looks good in September and October.
• 40:21
  No way.
• 40:22
  No way.
• 40:23
  And then they, they eventually look like garbage when you get
• 40:26
  into the weather later in the year.
• 40:29
  Look, Bryce Young is what he is, and he's a 20th best quarterback in the league.
• 40:34
  Congratulations to him, that's hard to do.
• 40:36
  But- … he's, he's not it, and that team's going nowhere.
• 40:40
  Yes, I'll dismiss the entire NFC South- I love- … because I have brain cells.
• 40:44
  I love this.
• 40:45
  I, it, the Rooting Guide was like this throwaway thing.
• 40:47
  It's become my favorite thing because I, I just like, I love,
• 40:50
  I love the reaction to it all.
• 40:51
  'Cause, - Yeah … what it, what usually ends up happening is like over
• 40:54
  time I'm wrong, and I'm just like this.
• 40:56
  That's, I mean, I kn- I know this, right?
• 40:58
  Over time, like, "Oh no, they, they kinda stunk."
• 41:00
  And I just pick up the Bears.
• 41:02
  And I just, I, I definitely inflate these, players and
• 41:05
  quarterbacks and wide receivers.
• 41:06
  I do it all the time.
• 41:07
  I don't think I'm gonna learn, but I do think those teams can run the football.
• 41:11
  At least you said the Bears are, I think, pretty legit because- Yeah … one
• 41:14
  thing f- Falcons can run the football.
• 41:16
  Falcons can.
• 41:16
  Oh, yeah.
• 41:16
  And so can the Panthers.
• 41:18
  But anyway, all right.
• 41:18
  So that's our Rooting Guide.
• 41:20
  Brandan, our Pick 'Em league is fantastic.
• 41:22
  It's from members of the Flock.
• 41:24
  Who took it home in week four, and who's leading so far this year?
• 41:27
  We had six people pick 12 games correctly in week four.
• 41:32
  Great job.
• 41:33
  yeah.
• 41:33
  And, so congrats on all the, all the folks that got 12 picks correct.
• 41:37
  But we do have a tie-breaking system.
• 41:40
  It is guessing the points.
• 41:41
  I believe this was the Falcons-Saints game.
• 41:44
  They combined for 69 points.
• 41:47
  And- Nice … What the Flock had 56 points as the, tiebreaker.
• 41:53
  So What the Flock taking first place with Glass of Chardonnay
• 41:57
  Please, Godfrey Vandeleur, Withers s- W- With- Witherspoona Matata.
• 42:03
  Yeah.
• 42:04
  That's a banger.
• 42:05
  I love it.
• 42:05
  Witherspoona Matata.
• 42:07
  Yeah.
• 42:07
  Ryan Curtin and Josh Rhodes, and then that takes us to the 2026.
• 42:13
  Overall, and Glass of Chardonnay Please is leading the pack with 44 picks correct.
• 42:20
  And then we got four teams all tied for second.
• 42:23
  Josh Rhodes, Lock It Away, C-Ball Get Ball, Go Hawks, and Unlimited Flocker.
• 42:28
  Well, look, Josh Rhodes has gotta do better here, right?
• 42:30
  He's doing very well, but if you listen to the flagship, then you hear Evie, our
• 42:34
  overlord, telling you underlings, "You gotta get a, a punny name in there."
• 42:39
  And Josh, if you had…
• 42:40
  Unless there's something I'm missing with Josh Rhodes, I just think it's your name.
• 42:43
  But, but if you did a little better with your name, I think you're
• 42:46
  gonna find some extra Hawkra.
• 42:47
  I'm just saying, Evie is extraordinarily smart, and
• 42:51
  she's a gracious overlord, guys.
• 42:53
  You have Witherspoon and Matata on the previous slide- Exactly … and
• 42:56
  then you have Josh Rhodes.
• 42:57
  Like- Right.
• 42:58
  So Josh Rhodes- I know you can do better, Josh
• 43:00
  you got, you got…
• 43:00
  I mean, you're one point.
• 43:01
  You're right there.
• 43:02
  You're jockeying.
• 43:02
  It's early, but you're jockeying, so good job.
• 43:04
  All right.
• 43:05
  Adam- Maybe, maybe he likes to just, like, Josh Route teased Rhodes.
• 43:08
  You know?
• 43:09
  Just, just do that.
• 43:09
  Maybe that's, that's what it is.
• 43:10
  Like, he gets- Maybe it is … on a gravel road and he's like, "You're not pavement."
• 43:14
  Like, maybe that's what it is.
• 43:15
  Well, it is time.
• 43:15
  I understand.
• 43:16
  I, I'm looking at some nice pavement right here on this
• 43:17
  little patio in my Airbnb in Reno.
• 43:20
  so it is time for us to get a little Goose boys.
• 43:23
  It's time for Blue Friday bets.
• 43:25
  Yes, Taco Tuesday on a Wednesday, Blue Friday bets on a Saturday.
• 43:29
  It's how we do it, 'cause it's fun, and it is a game within a game.
• 43:33
  We're gonna, we're gonna go through four unique bets for $31 total
• 43:37
  wagered in honor of Kam Chancellor.
• 43:40
  Bet one, bet two, bet three, $10.
• 43:42
  Any bet that's available on the board, which means, like, your DraftKings,
• 43:46
  your, you know, yada, yada, yada.
• 43:47
  All the ones.
• 43:48
  Come on, sponsors.
• 43:49
  G- Br- bring it, and you could be the one.
• 43:51
  We could talk about you every single week, so you should be the one.
• 43:54
  Then the last bet, fourth down, is a dollar bet.
• 43:57
  We call it the Fail Mary.
• 43:58
  It must be plus 1200 or longer odds to qualify.
• 44:02
  Adam, you and I stunk up the place.
• 44:04
  I noticed you didn't even do- No.
• 44:05
  Yeah, you didn't even do a graphic for this.
• 44:08
  You shouldn't have.
• 44:09
  Yeah, I did.
• 44:09
  So I just put the- I, I even sent it to you Oh, I, I, I- It's in the text.
• 44:13
  It's on the drive … don't think it's in either of them or all three of them.
• 44:16
  No, for real it is.
• 44:17
  That's okay.
• 44:17
  Yeah.
• 44:17
  Okay.
• 44:18
  Cool, cool, cool.
• 44:18
  But either way, I- Oh, I don't think I texted it to you … that's fine.
• 44:21
  I, I don't think it was in the drive either, but doesn't matter.
• 44:24
  What I did do is put the Family Feud X over our week because we
• 44:28
  all went, we took a goose egg.
• 44:30
  We went 0 for 3 each, 0 for 6- -huh … which is hard to do.
• 44:33
  On our regular bets, Fail Marys don't often hit.
• 44:36
  We did not hit those.
• 44:37
  So, for the year, I'm still losing less money than you are, Adam.
• 44:41
  That's bad.
• 44:42
  Yeah.
• 44:43
  I'm not proud of this to this point.
• 44:45
  - … this has been a really, really tough start as a whole, to the bets
• 44:50
  here, and I do realize what happened here.
• 44:52
  I didn't have it in the right folder.
• 44:54
  That's why you didn't get it.
• 44:55
  - Okay.
• 44:56
  No worries, guys … so anyways there, but, at the end of the day, I was,
• 44:59
  I wanted to open it up here so I could tell everybody where we're at here.
• 45:03
  so we both went 0 for 3 on our regular bets.
• 45:06
  Yeah.
• 45:06
  We both missed our Fail Marys.
• 45:07
  We both went down -$31, last week.
• 45:11
  Yikes.
• 45:11
  That's two in a row for me.
• 45:13
  Clinton, you sit at negative $47.
• 45:15
  I sit at negative $71.
• 45:17
  This has to change.
• 45:19
  This has to change now- … and I believe it will with our bets.
• 45:22
  So let's see how it goes.
• 45:23
  Yeah.
• 45:24
  Do not take financial advice from us, but if you're going to bet our
• 45:27
  bets, just maybe buy Amazon stock.
• 45:29
  It'll pro- probably be better for your deal.
• 45:31
  But, but we press on, so I'm on first down.
• 45:35
  It's a lot of fun, and, I like this one.
• 45:38
  I, I'm intrigued by these quarterly bets, so again, if you're listening, not
• 45:41
  watching on YouTube, we got these gorgeous slides now to talk about these bets.
• 45:45
  First down, I got Brock Purdy under 47 and a half yards passing in
• 45:50
  the first quarter alone at minus 118, so a $10 bet nets me $8.47
• 45:57
  sets of, s- cents of profit.
• 45:59
  So, boys, I could see a sluggish beginning to this game, and that's
• 46:05
  kinda what I'm banking on, Adam.
• 46:07
  Look, I think that that's probably a good thing to bank on.
• 46:10
  They have not seen a high-quality defense to this point.
• 46:13
  You can point at the Broncos and say- Oh, Broncos … that's it, but without
• 46:17
  Cooper, it just doesn't look the same.
• 46:20
  And I don't think- Yeah … the second level of the Broncos defense
• 46:23
  even touches what the Seahawks bring to the table at the second level,
• 46:26
  at the linebacker/nickel dime spot.
• 46:29
  So, I think it's gonna be a tough road to hoe for Purdy to at least to start.
• 46:33
  I think it will be all game.
• 46:35
  I genuinely believe that.
• 46:37
  47 and a half yards, that would have to be a roughly what?
• 46:42
  10 completions to get over that since, we don't throw- Mm-hmm … more than
• 46:46
  eight yards past the line of scrimmage so-
• 46:48
  for a nearly even odds bet, not bad, not bad.
• 46:51
  Yeah.
• 46:52
  So Brandan, what do you think here?
• 46:53
  It's not a huge number, but you know, first quarters in the NFL tend
• 46:57
  to be a bit more sluggish anyway.
• 46:59
  I figure keep him under 50-ish and maybe this hits.
• 47:04
  Yeah.
• 47:04
  I, this is, a little bit…
• 47:06
  So I was looking at his average in first quarters.
• 47:09
  He's a- about s- a little over 60 yards on average, but I can see
• 47:14
  them wanting to maybe go with the running game early, trying that,
• 47:17
  maybe more three and outs early on.
• 47:19
  I, I can, …
• 47:21
  Th- this one makes sense to me, but, you know, I thought a lot of
• 47:24
  your bets last week made sense too.
• 47:27
  Yeah.
• 47:27
  Th- I- they sure did to me too, but I, I took the goose egg.
• 47:30
  All right.
• 47:31
  That's my first.
• 47:31
  Adam, you're up on first down.
• 47:33
  Where'd you take us?
• 47:34
  All righty.
• 47:34
  So, I also went with one of these quarter bets because it was really
• 47:38
  difficult to find odds that I liked, - Hmm … on practically anything right now.
• 47:43
  And also betting on the offense to me is a little difficult because
• 47:47
  that is the volatile side of the ball in terms of production.
• 47:51
  But what I went with here was something that I hope is relatively
• 47:55
  simple to achieve and I actually get positive odds for it.
• 47:59
  So I've got- Mm-hmm … Emanuel Wilson to record five plus
• 48:02
  rushing yards in each quarter.
• 48:03
  So basically- Two carries a quarter?
• 48:07
  you know, and you should get there- Jeez … in theory.
• 48:11
  Like, I, I feel like that's not crazy.
• 48:13
  Plus- … 110 are the odds, so if I bet $10, I win 11.
• 48:17
  These, these are, you know, these all quarter bets, I don't know if
• 48:21
  they're sucker bets or not, because I tend to like- If I know … I tend
• 48:25
  to like, I tend to like love them, like, "Oh, that's a great bet."
• 48:27
  It just seems like all too obvious, and they're giving you
• 48:30
  plus money, and five paltry yards.
• 48:33
  And it's just, you know, yes, sometimes a quarter gets away
• 48:36
  from you, Brandan, right?
• 48:37
  It's like you look up and you had a drive.
• 48:39
  But even if it's just a drive, five yards per, w- when we really, we spent
• 48:45
  five minutes earlier saying who's even backing up Emanuel Wilson this week?
• 48:49
  I mean, he's gonna probably get, I don't know, 20 carries.
• 48:52
  Yeah.
• 48:53
  Yeah.
• 48:54
  It's, it's so good.
• 48:55
  It makes a lot of sense.
• 48:57
  And then you have Maximus Reldis coming in saying, "Maybe you have
• 49:00
  to hit all six bets before- … a gambling company sponsor you."
• 49:03
  Let's not hold our breath.
• 49:03
  and I would argue that maybe going 0 for 6 is better.
• 49:06
  And, and Maximus says, "Ah, yes.
• 49:08
  This is the perfect advertisement."
• 49:12
  Very funny.
• 49:13
  So, Adam, I do like this though, and I do…
• 49:15
  And you know, this bet happens with the Holani news.
• 49:18
  We don't know exactly what's gonna happen there.
• 49:20
  I just think it trends even to the more positive, meaning
• 49:23
  that the odds will get worse.
• 49:24
  So I think you got in at the right time on this one, if it's not Holani tomorrow.
• 49:28
  Not that he's, great shakes, but we know who he is.
• 49:32
  So all right.
• 49:32
  Good stuff there.
• 49:33
  I like that a lot, Adam.
• 49:34
  Good, good first down bet.
• 49:36
  Okay.
• 49:36
  I don't typically go with touchdown scorers.
• 49:39
  this one is pure feel, guys.
• 49:42
  I'm going with JSN as an anytime touchdown scorer at minus 110.
• 49:47
  The only dude in the game with lesser odds or, more likely to score
• 49:51
  in terms, is what Vegas says, is CMC.
• 49:54
  And I just think that, you know, a little bit of a quote-unquote down
• 49:58
  week last week, I think we're gonna put up points against this Niners team.
• 50:02
  I don't think it's gonna be like a 17-point game for our Seahawks.
• 50:05
  I think we'll get into the 20s, maybe even a little higher.
• 50:08
  And if that's the case, I think JSN catches one of these, Adam.
• 50:12
  Interesting bet.
• 50:13
  I can understand where your head's at here.
• 50:15
  I mean, obviously JSN is the dude- Mm-hmm … for the Seattle offense right now.
• 50:21
  And, a- anytime obviously gives you the full game, so I don't hate that.
• 50:26
  What I…
• 50:27
  What kinda gives me pause is even looking back to last year, in the three games
• 50:32
  he scored one touchdown against- Mm-hmm
• 50:33
  the 49ers.
• 50:34
  And it is- Yep … fairly volatile.
• 50:36
  So, but maybe, maybe this is the, the week where he
• 50:41
  genuinely lights the 49ers up.
• 50:43
  no Sigle, no Upton Stout.
• 50:46
  L- Lenoir, he shut up this week.
• 50:49
  Maybe that'll help him.
• 50:50
  I hope he runs his mouth maybe today.
• 50:53
  Get on Twitter, Lenoir, if you hear this, and, call JSN.
• 50:56
  that'd be, that'd be pretty fun.
• 50:58
  But yeah, man, I don't love this one, only because of the history.
• 51:02
  Hey, Lenoir- I got you … might have convinced the defensive
• 51:06
  coordinator now that he, you know, they moved on from last year, right?
• 51:09
  Yeah.
• 51:09
  that, that maybe he'll get to cover JSN the entire game.
• 51:14
  And if that's the case, I like JSN getting by him for a touchdown.
• 51:20
  Yeah, me too.
• 51:21
  Me too, guys.
• 51:22
  so hopefully, h- you know, we covered Upton Stout out.
• 51:24
  Hopefully, that means those digs over the middle, and some slants,
• 51:28
  and things that can go a long way.
• 51:29
  Or, or just JSN just burns, burns a couple dudes and he's over the top looking
• 51:35
  backwards doing his breaking, breaking the tape celebration as he often does
• 51:40
  across, across the goal line for six.
• 51:42
  I don't normally, I don't normally bet JSN, and I don't
• 51:45
  normally take touchdown scorers.
• 51:47
  It's just a feeling, so we'll see how it goes.
• 51:49
  We'll see how it goes.
• 51:50
  Perfect recipe to get off the O and three slide.
• 51:52
  Yeah, exactly.
• 51:53
  Yeah.
• 51:54
  Perfect.
• 51:54
  and, and but Adam, like you said, I didn't love a ton of these
• 51:57
  bets, so I was like, "All right.
• 51:58
  Well, the rules are the rules.
• 51:59
  We gotta take some stuff, so why not lay some chips on JSN?"
• 52:03
  You're up on second down.
• 52:04
  I love this bet.
• 52:06
  I love this compilation.
• 52:07
  It's, these are one of the ones I'm like, "Oh, this should
• 52:09
  happen," but go ahead, man.
• 52:10
  Take it away.
• 52:11
  Yeah.
• 52:11
  So again, I can't be going O for three, - … on these bets, man.
• 52:16
  Like, it puts you in such a hole that you just can't hardly climb out of it.
• 52:20
  So again, trying to find things that are very likely, and then tie them
• 52:24
  together, and then hope for the best.
• 52:25
  So basically I've got Tory Horton to have five plus receiving
• 52:29
  yards in the game, in the game.
• 52:31
  Like, not per quarter.
• 52:32
  Like, the entire game, one catch, right?
• 52:35
  175 plus pass yards for Sam.
• 52:38
  he should do that before he comes out of the tunnel.
• 52:40
  And then the Seahawks, they don't even have to win.
• 52:43
  They could lose by up to three points and I still hit on this bet.
• 52:46
  So the Seahawks plus three and a half points, that gets me to plus 115.
• 52:50
  So a $10 bet wins me $11.52.
• 52:53
  yeah.
• 52:54
  Ooh.
• 52:55
  A little parlay party here.
• 52:56
  A, a three-leg parlay, Brandan.
• 52:58
  Parlay.
• 52:59
  Are you into, these many variables?
• 53:01
  Handle Na says, "I like that bet, Adam."
• 53:04
  All right.
• 53:04
  I, I hate this bet because- Oh … Clinton, he gives you crap all the time
• 53:08
  about rooting against our own team, and adding s- adding points to the Seahawks,
• 53:14
  like, that feels unnecessary to me Well, which maybe, but hey, it's nice
• 53:19
  to take points when you can get them.
• 53:21
  I- We don't even have to win.
• 53:22
  I, I don't subscribe to that at all, so I'm, I'm not gonna go…
• 53:27
  I'm not gonna get on Adam for, for that.
• 53:28
  I don't think it's negative Hawkra.
• 53:30
  I think the- Oh, it is … I don't think it is.
• 53:33
  What's the most dangerous part of this bet?
• 53:35
  Is it Horton getting five yards?
• 53:37
  Yeah.
• 53:37
  Or is it, or is it Seattle losing the game by four?
• 53:40
  Don't wanna talk about it, but what's the most dangerous part?
• 53:43
  Oh, the Horton part by far to me.
• 53:45
  Like, there, there could be a world…
• 53:46
  Like, I honestly believe this game is gonna be 17-10, 17-13 Hawks.
• 53:52
  Mm.
• 53:52
  I, I, I don't see too many paths to where the 49ers are able to win this
• 53:56
  game, other than if the Hawks come out sloppy, like they did against the
• 54:02
  Chargers or the Commanders, and they were sloppy in different ways, right?
• 54:05
  But I have a feeling that this week throughout the building…
• 54:09
  Do you guys remember from Hard Knocks when Mike looked at Derick Hall and said,
• 54:14
  "Turns out I run the [catfish] practice"?
• 54:17
  I feel like- Yeah … there was a lot of those kind of talks about-
• 54:20
  Mm-hmm … discipline and details.
• 54:22
  We've heard it a lot in the press conferences, leading up to this week.
• 54:26
  I think they're gonna be on their Ps and Qs here, and if that's the case, I- If
• 54:31
  the Seahawks were to somehow lose, it's not gonna be more than three points.
• 54:35
  It's gonna be a, a really tight game Squeaker That's why I
• 54:38
  added that the way that I did.
• 54:39
  but the Horton part, yeah man, I don't know.
• 54:42
  Maybe he just doesn't get a target.
• 54:43
  Well, Brandan- Did, did you check week one last year, Adam, to see
• 54:46
  how many yards that Darnold threw for in that, loss to the Niners?
• 54:51
  Was it like 174?
• 54:53
  Oh, in week one when things are weird?
• 54:54
  Yeah, no, I didn't.
• 54:54
  Yeah, it was week one, but this is- Yeah … essentially week three for him.
• 54:57
  He had 150 yards passing against the Niners.
• 54:59
  Yeah, that's all right.
• 55:00
  Hey, completely different teams though, guys.
• 55:02
  Just completely.
• 55:02
  What did he have, the next two?
• 55:05
  Yeah, true.
• 55:05
  True facts.
• 55:06
  look, I…
• 55:08
  So interesting, I would be okay, I, I'd like this to bust and I'll
• 55:12
  tell you here, I'll tell you how.
• 55:14
  I would like this to bust by Tory Horton scoring two touchdowns for three yards,
• 55:18
  just 'cause that'd be- That'd be amazing.
• 55:20
  'Cause that'd be funny.
• 55:21
  'Cause his, his touchdown this year- Yeah … is like, what, a little, a
• 55:23
  little two-yard slant right at the goal line, which was a really cool iso play.
• 55:28
  Hat t- All the consternation about Fleury, "Oh, he's not this, he's not that."
• 55:31
  It's four weeks in, we don't have a starting running
• 55:34
  back, and it's, it's okay.
• 55:36
  Just, we don't have a starting running back on a team that
• 55:38
  wants to run the football.
• 55:39
  It's okay.
• 55:40
  It's okay.
• 55:41
  And yet he schemes open Horton at the two-yard line on a beautiful concept.
• 55:45
  So, that, that's the line we want.
• 55:47
  Two touchdowns, three yards.
• 55:48
  What we need though, funny, funny there.
• 55:51
  Let's, let's put Snail back on to give him some love too.
• 55:54
  Thank you, Snail.
• 55:55
  He's saying, "Thanks for the entertainment to start my workday
• 55:58
  on a Saturday," a $12 super chat.
• 56:01
  We love that number.
• 56:01
  Thank you, Snail.
• 56:02
  You've been here for, with us for many, I think like three, four, four years now.
• 56:06
  Four years?
• 56:06
  I think it's been at least three.
• 56:07
  I think it was 48 months- Yeah … out on YouTube.
• 56:09
  So dude, you're the man.
• 56:10
  Thank you so much for all you do.
• 56:12
  All right, so I got my third down coming up here.
• 56:14
  This is my favorite bet, of the week.
• 56:17
  So, let's, let's talk about how this will crash and burn.
• 56:20
  But fourth quarter, I like these quarter bets, man.
• 56:23
  Fourth quarter rushing yards for Emanuel Wilson, 15 yards plus 108.
• 56:30
  What I like about this is if the game goes the way I think the game can go,
• 56:36
  and we're not playing, we're not down 10 the fourth quarter and we have to, you
• 56:40
  know, just throw the ball, then I think Emanuel Wilson's gonna get five to six
• 56:46
  attempts in that fourth quarter, Adam.
• 56:49
  And if you give a cat a cupcake, if he gets five or six, he's getting those
• 56:52
  15-plus yards in the last quarter.
• 56:55
  Yeah, it seems plausible that you could pick up 15.
• 56:58
  It, I wish it were 10.
• 56:59
  I- you know what I mean?
• 57:01
  Like, when you- That was available … you're not gonna get
• 57:01
  down- That was like a minus 130 or something like that, minus 140.
• 57:05
  So it was there.
• 57:06
  I think I like that a little better, but I, I do think that the style of
• 57:10
  game that you're talking about and getting to the fourth quarter and, you
• 57:14
  know, having a lead and trying to get to that four-minute offense, we've seen
• 57:18
  that Fleury has the propensity to that.
• 57:19
  It was awesome against the Cardinals.
• 57:21
  It was a little less awesome against the Chargers.
• 57:23
  But it's something that they can do.
• 57:25
  What, the other thing I like about this bet, Clinton, I've been
• 57:27
  hearing all week long from anybody who wants to talk about the game
• 57:31
  of the week here between, you know, the Niners and, and Seahawks,
• 57:35
  is that, "Well, Seahawks can't win.
• 57:37
  They don't have a running back, so."
• 57:38
  Mm.
• 57:38
  And it's like, well, okay.
• 57:40
  well, it's all predicated on the, on the running game
• 57:44
  for the Seahawks offensively.
• 57:45
  And it's like, no, y- I don't think you understand the way the offense is built.
• 57:50
  It, it, we don't have to necessarily be crazy successful running the
• 57:54
  football like we weren't for the first 10 games of last year- Mm-hmm
• 57:57
  yet still went on a tear, only losing one game to the Bucs off of a helmet.
• 58:01
  So they, it's not that they have to be successful, it's that they have to do it.
• 58:06
  Like, that's just it, and that's totally within their control.
• 58:09
  And if that's the case, then Wilson should get his touches and he
• 58:11
  should get his 15-plus rush yards.
• 58:13
  I like the bet, in a week where it's tough to find good ones, to me, Brandan.
• 58:18
  Yeah.
• 58:18
  And, Emanuel Wilson on the year, majority of his yardage has come
• 58:23
  in the fourth quarter, 58 yards.
• 58:25
  I think most of that was from the Cardinals game.
• 58:27
  But, yeah, third- … his third quarter yardage is only 15 for the season.
• 58:33
  Second quarter yardage 25, and first quarter 11.
• 58:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 58:38
  All right, so trending the right way there.
• 58:40
  If the game goes as we think it might, then Wilson gets those
• 58:43
  touches and we'll be dancing in the fourth quarter with this one.
• 58:46
  I like it.
• 58:47
  It's my fav of the week so far.
• 58:48
  If I could prophet goose it, I would.
• 58:51
  We should probably introduce, introduce that next year when we, where we get to
• 58:54
  goose, you know, get to goose one of our favorite bets and, a- another wrinkle.
• 58:58
  Why not?
• 58:58
  But third down for you.
• 59:00
  This one's pretty interesting, Adam.
• 59:02
  This is a, this is getting you a Hawkra right with this one.
• 59:06
  I mean, it's just being realistic.
• 59:08
  So the- … end of the day, if I'm gonna sit and talk about the overratedness
• 59:15
  of the, 49ers offense and how everybody just thinks that they're
• 59:19
  gonna come out and, and tear it up like it's 2020 with their cast of,
• 59:24
  ancient stars, then I need to obviously put my money where my mouth is.
• 59:30
  And the number one thing that I wanted to bet on in this game was the Niners
• 59:35
  and the lack of explosives that they're going to experience throughout the
• 59:39
  day on Sunday, because they will.
• 59:41
  look, they talk about, well, they'll get the run game going and it'll be
• 59:46
  a little bit better and all of that, but because this team is so different.
• 59:50
  Well, four out of your five offensive linemen are the same dudes
• 59:52
  that got their ass handed to them in those three games last year.
• 59:56
  I don't see any of that changing.
• 59:58
  So that starts with the McCaffrey part of this bet.
• 1:00:01
  McCaffrey to have under 89 and a half rushing plus receiving yards.
• 1:00:05
  Look, he has lost the juice.
• 1:00:07
  He is not the same guy that is gonna go out there and have,
• 1:00:11
  like, three explosives a game.
• 1:00:12
  And I believe that he's gonna have somewhere in the neighborhood of under 50
• 1:00:17
  rushing yards and under 20 passing yards.
• 1:00:20
  They haven't used him a ton in the pass game like they did last year.
• 1:00:23
  They're not spamming CMC, and maybe this is the game they do it, maybe they've
• 1:00:27
  been saving him for this one, but it's not what we've seen to this point.
• 1:00:31
  Then Kittle's longest reception, as a part of this, to be
• 1:00:34
  under 22 and a half yards.
• 1:00:37
  He's not fast enough to run away from anybody on this defense, and I
• 1:00:42
  don't see him being able to create separation that far downfield.
• 1:00:45
  And after watching the Niners offense the last couple weeks,
• 1:00:48
  that's not what they do anyways.
• 1:00:50
  So a Niners team that has a hard time generating, the typical
• 1:00:55
  explosives that you see in a game against a defense that says, "You won't
• 1:01:00
  do that anyways," I like this bet.
• 1:01:02
  It got me all the way up to plus 227 on the odds, and that would win me $22.70
• 1:01:09
  on a $10 bet.
• 1:01:10
  So McCaffrey under 89.5
• 1:01:12
  rushing plus receiving.
• 1:01:13
  Kittle longest reception under 22.5.
• 1:01:16
  Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  Big, big, big numbers there.
• 1:01:18
  Oh, Brandan, go ahead, man.
• 1:01:19
  You take it.
• 1:01:19
  Well, I would just…
• 1:01:20
  The, the Kittle longest reception part, like I understand that we have
• 1:01:24
  a good tackling team, but Kittle is still very good at breaking tackles.
• 1:01:27
  So that is- Mm-hmm … a reception.
• 1:01:29
  It, it…
• 1:01:29
  That can be yards after the catch to, to bust that number.
• 1:01:33
  Of course.
• 1:01:33
  The one that's crazy to me though is the 89.5.
• 1:01:36
  Like McCaffrey's done that once, rushing and receiving.
• 1:01:40
  You would think that for an eight, a, a number at like 90 that, he
• 1:01:44
  would have more games above, combined above 90 rushing and rec- receiving.
• 1:01:51
  He's only done it against the Cardinals.
• 1:01:52
  He's been…
• 1:01:53
  He was at 88 against the Rams.
• 1:01:55
  he was way under against the Dolphins of all teams.
• 1:01:59
  I don't know, did he get hurt in that game against the Dolphins?
• 1:02:01
  He had like 23 rushing yards and 43 receiving.
• 1:02:05
  And then last week against Denver, 52 yards rushing, 18 receiving.
• 1:02:09
  So yeah, the, the under number on that one, especially against the
• 1:02:13
  Seahawks defense, is the one that, that seems the most certain to me.
• 1:02:18
  I think you nailed it, Brandan, that it's, if this busts, it's because
• 1:02:22
  of a missed tackle, and that could come for either of these sides.
• 1:02:25
  And Adam, if I'm gonna bet on something that Seattle is
• 1:02:28
  very good at, it's tackling.
• 1:02:30
  We rally to the ball well, we tackle well.
• 1:02:32
  It does happen.
• 1:02:32
  These are, these are really good players.
• 1:02:34
  s- probably both Hall of Famers, if we're being honest.
• 1:02:38
  I think CMC's a lock, and I think George Kittle's the best tight
• 1:02:40
  end in the, in football, and has been for a couple of years.
• 1:02:43
  with that being said, you know, w- we are the best tackling team in the NFL.
• 1:02:47
  So if we tackle soundly, if we rally, if we do the things we know we can do,
• 1:02:51
  this has a very good shot of hitting.
• 1:02:53
  Love it.
• 1:02:54
  So good, good to get that juice.
• 1:02:55
  Definitely the spiciest of our bets this week.
• 1:02:58
  We both were a bit more conservative after getting our hats handed to us last week.
• 1:03:03
  but that takes us to our fail Mary.
• 1:03:04
  It means you're up first.
• 1:03:05
  We, we reverse the order.
• 1:03:07
  So the $1 bet at +1280, but you got the need, Adam.
• 1:03:12
  I got the need.
• 1:03:13
  Look, you gotta find something to bet on with the fail Mary, and maybe this
• 1:03:18
  is, maybe this is the week that they get Shaheed just a little bit more involved.
• 1:03:22
  He takes a, a little flare pass or a screen for, like, 30 yards,
• 1:03:27
  and then they hit him on one bomb, and he gets to 80-plus receiving
• 1:03:30
  yards, which gets my odds to +1280.
• 1:03:33
  We gotta be over 1,200 odds, so my $1 bet would win me $12.80.
• 1:03:37
  so yeah, maybe.
• 1:03:40
  That's where I'm at on this bet.
• 1:03:41
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:43
  Brandan, if it's not, if it's not Shaheed just, you know, running
• 1:03:46
  a nine route like he did against the Rams to start the game in the NFC
• 1:03:50
  championship, which we won, by the way, on the way to our Super Bowl victory.
• 1:03:53
  if it's not that, what if, what if Shaheed's getting three or four
• 1:03:57
  receptions out of the backfield this week?
• 1:03:59
  What do you think?
• 1:04:00
  Yeah, that could be a way to get this.
• 1:04:02
  You know, get him out in space, and yeah, it doesn't have to…
• 1:04:05
  Again, like with the Kittle thing, it doesn't have to be long, deep passes.
• 1:04:09
  it can be some of those short connections, and, and give him the ball
• 1:04:12
  to, to run with it on a, on a screenplay.
• 1:04:14
  We've been good at screens.
• 1:04:16
  Maybe we give the- Very good … the guy who is the fastest guy the screen passes.
• 1:04:20
  I've got real wood right here.
• 1:04:22
  Right here.
• 1:04:22
  That's some real wood.
• 1:04:23
  I'm knocking on the wood because we have been the most successful
• 1:04:27
  screen team in the NFL this year.
• 1:04:29
  That's by the stats.
• 1:04:30
  We are the most, per screen, we are the most successful running it.
• 1:04:34
  So what a world we're living in.
• 1:04:36
  So oh, but by the way, Fleury's trash, and he's, he's terrible.
• 1:04:38
  Eh, calm down, people.
• 1:04:39
  Calm down.
• 1:04:40
  All right, my fail Mary.
• 1:04:41
  look, Brandan, you've been calling for a little Brady Russell, and we've
• 1:04:45
  talked about Fleury mixing things up- Ooh … and Brady Russell getting involved.
• 1:04:49
  And like we say, you gotta put the dollar somewhere.
• 1:04:51
  It's gotta be +1200 or longer odds.
• 1:04:53
  So if you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly.
• 1:04:55
  Adam, +2700.
• 1:04:59
  I got Brady Russell getting a tutty for his first of the year versus
• 1:05:02
  these 49ers because, you know, these surprising things happen against
• 1:05:06
  our rivals, so why not Brady here?
• 1:05:09
  Plus 2,700 on the odds, man.
• 1:05:11
  That shows, exactly what Vegas thinks of this.
• 1:05:14
  And, i- it's not just fail Mary unlikely, it's double fail Mary unlikely.
• 1:05:19
  Yeah.
• 1:05:20
  a- and then some, according to them.
• 1:05:23
  they just don't seem to have a lot of interest in giving Brady
• 1:05:27
  the ball, i- in any way.
• 1:05:30
  - More than Ouzts though last year.
• 1:05:31
  More than Ouzts, you know?
• 1:05:33
  Like, Ouzts had zero receptions.
• 1:05:35
  Well, he's also been healthier than Ouzts.
• 1:05:35
  I know, but Z- O- Ouzts had zero receptions last year, and I like Ouzts a lot.
• 1:05:39
  Yeah.
• 1:05:39
  But we saw Ouzts get the ball in the preseason last year.
• 1:05:41
  We're like, "Oh man, he's gonna get some, he's gonna get some chances out there.
• 1:05:44
  He's got soft hands.
• 1:05:45
  He can rumble."
• 1:05:47
  Zero.
• 1:05:47
  Zero.
• 1:05:48
  But Russell, what does Russell have, Brandan, now three receptions on the year?
• 1:05:52
  Four?
• 1:05:52
  Yeah, do you know how many career touchdowns he has?
• 1:05:57
  Is this gonna be his first?
• 1:05:58
  Am I gonna win with his first?
• 1:05:59
  It would this would be his first career touchdown.
• 1:06:01
  Let's go.
• 1:06:01
  But he was one yard short just a couple weeks ago.
• 1:06:04
  There we go.
• 1:06:05
  There we go.
• 1:06:06
  I love that.
• 1:06:06
  Okay, so th- so there we go, guys.
• 1:06:09
  To get his first career touchdown, to hit the first ma- first Hail Mary of
• 1:06:14
  our season, I don't know, boys, the stars seem to be aligning on this one.
• 1:06:17
  I like it.
• 1:06:18
  I like it.
• 1:06:19
  Well, that was a lot of fun.
• 1:06:19
  All right, so that's our Hail Mary.
• 1:06:21
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• 1:06:22
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• 1:06:24
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• 1:06:26
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• 1:06:28
  it is, it helps us a ton.
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  We hope you like these Saturday mornings.
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  you know, back in our day there were Saturday morning cartoons.
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  We get the big bowl of cereal, you get your Frosted Flakes, may- maybe a
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  nice banana, and you watch, you know, hours upon hours of, of cartoons.
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  Now, as we age a little bit, we just get to still talk
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  about and do something we love.
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  We get to talk Seahawks football on Saturday mornings, and
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  it's been a lot of fun so far.
• 1:06:51
  I will be with DCH tomorrow, one of our executive producers, to
• 1:06:55
  watch this game with him in Reno.
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  Guys, I'm fired up.
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  Adam, what are your big plans for tomorrow to get your Hawkra right?
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  Well, I'm gonna give you a call, y- maybe a little bit before
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  the game, an hour or two, and, it's just for a production meeting.
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  This, this is my plans for tomorrow.
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  Nice.
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  Because, you keep bragging about this Saturday morning [catfish].
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  that's gonna change.
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  there's literally no reason for us to be on at 10:00 AM, Pacific Time.
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  none.
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  People like it.
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  No, we do better a little bit later.
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  and I do better a little bit later.
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  So that's my big plan, is to, chastise you even more tomorrow
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  in private than I am here in public a- at this point, Brandan.
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  do you like my early plans for Sunday?
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  Look, if you guys keep going 0 for 3 going early, you gotta switch it up, and,
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  and you gotta start- There we go … picking in the afternoon just to see if
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  it, reverses the, the bad Hawkra that you've brought to the betting show.
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  I love, I love that in, in Adam's world 11:00 AM is too early.
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  I love, I love that for you.
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  I just think it's the greatest thing ever.
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  Meanwhile, I look like crap- It's too early for me to be on camera, coherent-
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  … and, you know, anything like that.
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  Like, you just- You're done good … why?
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  You're done good.
• 1:08:04
  Well, so then what's your plans for the London game tomorrow?
• 1:08:06
  You're up bright and early watching Jaguars/Eagles?
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  Who?
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  And I think with that- There's only one thing left to say.
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  Go Hawks.
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  Go Hawks.
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  Go Hawks.