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The Secret Life of John Wilkes Booth and the KGC w/ Prometheus Lens · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 3: coming on man, and tonight we got the Secret Life
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  Speaker 3: of John Wilkes Booth.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna be totally honest with you.
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  Speaker 3: This was a topic that I didn't know really or
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know of this situation until I saw you
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  Speaker 3: post about it and I was like, oh, I had
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  Speaker 3: no idea, and I was like, fucking it. Hit you
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  Speaker 3: up about it and you're like, yeah, come on, so
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  Speaker 3: well you want to tell us a little bit. I guess, like,
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  Speaker 3: what even got you on to this topic or made
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  Speaker 3: you think about it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Honestly, I always said that I was a history buff.
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  Speaker 1: I love history, but I always just consumed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the mainstream narrative. And it wasn't until I started getting
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  Speaker 1: into like the biblical topics and kind of widely known
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  Speaker 1: conspiracies that I started questioning the narrative and started looking
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  Speaker 1: into these other things. And that's something I even say
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  Speaker 1: on the show that I tried to try to take
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  Speaker 1: a second look at everything, you know, the histories, the Bible,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff too, because more times than not, we've
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  Speaker 1: been lied to when we go back and look at
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  Speaker 1: it for ourselves. And honestly, I just grabbed a book.
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  Speaker 1: I always go to this place called McKay's Used Books
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  Speaker 1: down in Knoxville. It's like hour from me. It's like
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  Speaker 1: a three story tall building full of nothing but books,
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  Speaker 1: old vinyl records, collectibles, video games, all kinds of cool stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It's in that building. But I always go there anytime
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  Speaker 1: I'm around Knoxville, and I always spend at least one
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  Speaker 1: hundred bucks every time I go. But I found this
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  Speaker 1: book and I'll show you guys this. It's ten of
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  Speaker 1: the greatest mysteries be coded, and it's full of pictures
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  Speaker 1: and it's got like little evidence files you can pull out,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like replica documents of the stuff they're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I found this story, and
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  Speaker 1: it kind of piqued my interest, and so then I
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  Speaker 1: started deep diving looking into this stuff. And yeah, once again, guys,
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  Speaker 1: there's pretty compelling evidence that the man that we were
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  Speaker 1: told that shot President Abraham Lincoln and escaped and like
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  Speaker 1: twelve days later was shot in a barn was a lie.
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  Speaker 1: You know, surprise, surprise. There's all kinds of you know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's got theories and legends and things like that, but
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  Speaker 1: there's a couple that I found that has a really
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  Speaker 1: good paper trail, and I just kind of went down
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  Speaker 1: through it and started finding this stuff. And I just
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  Speaker 1: kind of did a little show about it on my
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  Speaker 1: channel for my paying members, and I put like a
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  Speaker 1: little teaser last week on it. But like we were
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  Speaker 1: talking pre roll, I'm one of these guys. I'm like
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  Speaker 1: the dog with the bone, you know, I have to
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  Speaker 1: know everything. So I started researching. I even found some
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  Speaker 1: authors that's dedicated their life to studying into John Wilkes Booth,
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  Speaker 1: Jesse James, and then the Nights of the Golden Circle.
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  Speaker 1: So this was a very deep rabbit hole. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: really excited to sit down and talk with some of
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  Speaker 1: these guys that's dedicated thirty forty years into this topic.
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  Speaker 1: But I've been into it so far for maybe two
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  Speaker 1: weeks now, and I found a lot of really cool stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm excited to share it with you. And some
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  Speaker 1: of you it may be old news because when I
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  Speaker 1: shared some of this stuff on my social media's and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: I had people saying, man, I've known this for twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well I just found out. Bro.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, oh, fuck me for trying to put something
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  Speaker 4: cool out there. I've never heard of it. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean unless it we both see what
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  Speaker 3: people see on social media, you know, and it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of these are coming from people who don't have a microphone.
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  Speaker 2: And however, even the wrong podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah slackers.
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  Speaker 5: Well this brings up an interesting continuity. So do you
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  Speaker 5: think the Knights of the Golden Circle are tied to
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  Speaker 5: the Society of the Cincinnati and then ultimately the Knights Templar.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with the Cincinnati Society, but honestly, the
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  Speaker 1: Knights of the Golden Circle I had never heard of
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  Speaker 1: until this, and so me, I'm just.
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  Speaker 6: Like, I gotta go see all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But from what I have heard and read, it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like it's just a an offshoot brand of the Masons.
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  Speaker 1: And also it was kind of like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the members once the organization got quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote shut down, Uh just kind of migrated into the
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  Speaker 1: klu Klux Klan movement. But this whole thing was blew
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  Speaker 1: my mind. They're like, you know, it's a secret society
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  Speaker 1: But what separates these guys is they didn't write their
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  Speaker 1: stuff down. They were extremely secretive. So the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: we know is just from legends and lore and or
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  Speaker 1: people that has come forward and kind of admitted on
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  Speaker 1: their deathbed to some things. But basically this in a nutshell.
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  Speaker 1: These guys they called themselves the Night of the Golden
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  Speaker 1: Circle because they envisioned a territory like on a map,
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  Speaker 1: in a big circle, and they called it the Golden Circle.
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  Speaker 1: And what they wanted to do was take parts of Canada,
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  Speaker 1: North America and go on into Mexico Co and circle
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  Speaker 1: around to the Caribbeans and Jamaica and back into Florida.
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  Speaker 1: And this was this great, big Golden circle. And a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the men that joined this were influential leaders
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  Speaker 1: and politics. They were wealthy farmers and landowners and railroad tycoons.
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  Speaker 1: These were the elites of the time, and they wanted
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  Speaker 1: to protect slavery for one, because they had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of slavery workers fueling their pockets. But also they just
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  Speaker 1: to keep their business kind of like a monopoly type thing.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they even said it was the Golden Circle.
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  Speaker 1: So they were actually putting these people in this secret
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  Speaker 1: society into political office. They were hanging out at sight
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  Speaker 1: of voting booths and intimidating and beating people to vote
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  Speaker 1: the way they wanted them to vote, and they were
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  Speaker 1: even doing what was called filipbusting, and I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: what this was, so I kind of went down this
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  Speaker 1: show rabbit trail always when I heard that, I thought of, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's when they refused to vote in Congress and they're filibusting.
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  Speaker 1: But what that term actually comes from is people, groups, gangs, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: would go and invade a country or town or territory
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  Speaker 1: and set up a colony and then basically just forcefully
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  Speaker 1: take it over. And that's what we've done with Texas guys.
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  Speaker 1: We moved in and set up a colony and then
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  Speaker 1: we just kicked everybody out and beat them up and
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  Speaker 1: took their property from them. And they were actually in
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  Speaker 1: the process of doing this in Mexico, but all their
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  Speaker 1: plans kind of got thwarted because of the Civil War,
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  Speaker 1: and the Civil War through a big wrench and all
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  Speaker 1: their plans.
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  Speaker 5: Well, in some ways, I think this was like the
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  Speaker 5: escape route for these Civil War major characters, is they
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  Speaker 5: wanted to set up sort of an alternate republical system
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  Speaker 5: within the of Mexico. And to me, it just sounds
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  Speaker 5: a lot like the Carthaginians, which had this sort of
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  Speaker 5: massive sea empire. You know, they wanted to have towns
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  Speaker 5: every thirty miles all the way around the Mediterranean and
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  Speaker 5: sort of set up this trade network. And so what
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  Speaker 5: they were looking to do is have that same sort
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  Speaker 5: of trade network still processing and putting in these slaves
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  Speaker 5: and you know, put them all over South America and
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  Speaker 5: just sort of take over the place from the coasts,
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  Speaker 5: which was, you know, kind of a popular thing to do,
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  Speaker 5: especially with the Freemasons. The Freemasons anytime they would have
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  Speaker 5: an outpost in a colony or whatever, they would do
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  Speaker 5: the exact same thing that you were just talking about,
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  Speaker 5: the filibustering. They would make sure that nothing else could
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  Speaker 5: get in and they were the only ones providing resources.
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  Speaker 6: It was you know monopolization, m yeah, one hund percent.
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  Speaker 1: And all these main political figures and these soldiers and
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  Speaker 1: the Confederacy and things like that. They used this nights
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  Speaker 1: of the Golden Circle as like what's word I'm looking for?
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  Speaker 1: Like what was it call? When some when the snitch
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  Speaker 1: goes into protective protective custody. They kind of used that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this was a group that had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money, a lot of influence, and they would harbor
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  Speaker 1: these people, give them money, send them to go hide out,
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  Speaker 1: and they protected them. And John Wilkes Booth was was
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys. He was in the program back in.
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  Speaker 6: The Confederate States of America.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, but.
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  Speaker 1: John Wicks Booth, he was in he was a member
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  Speaker 1: of it. Uh, the well known Jesse James was in
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  Speaker 1: this group. And once the Civil War broke out, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, it kind of through a rent in their
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  Speaker 1: plan and they kind of had to divert their attention.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, what was wild was when I looked into
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  Speaker 1: this and once again, guys, I'm a Southern man. I
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  Speaker 1: have my biases like anybody else, but I am not
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  Speaker 1: a proponent of slavery whatsoever. But the narrative that we
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  Speaker 1: were given, I was given as a child, was that
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  Speaker 1: the Civil War started out to free the slaves. It
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  Speaker 1: was all about ending slavery. And that was a lie
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  Speaker 1: what happened.
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  Speaker 7: And this is once again, once I started looking into
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  Speaker 7: this stuff, I found the real narrative was that the
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  Speaker 7: Southern States didn't want to vote for Abraham Lincoln.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't want him as president. And he was going
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  Speaker 1: out and publicly saying, you know, hey, guys, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: coming after the slaves. I am not a tyrant, I
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  Speaker 1: am not a king. I don't have the rights to
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  Speaker 1: take away and say what your state does. The states
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  Speaker 1: ruled themselves individually, and you can vote for me, and
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  Speaker 1: rest assured, I am not going to take away your slaves.
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  Speaker 1: And so he got voted in. But when you go
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  Speaker 1: back and look, they had the electoral college back then,
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  Speaker 1: he won the presidents without one single electatorial point from
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  Speaker 1: the South. He got voted in just from that upper North.
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  Speaker 1: And we see that even today, so that the South
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  Speaker 1: was like, our vote doesn't even count. How come that
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  Speaker 1: little strip of land up there in New England controls
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  Speaker 1: the destiny of the entire country. We're out, We're going
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  Speaker 1: to succeed from the union because obviously our vote doesn't count.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what got it all started. And when you
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  Speaker 1: go to Abraham Lincoln's inaugural speech, he says it again,
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  Speaker 1: all my Southern brothers and sisters, rest assured. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to stand by my campaign promise. I am not going
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  Speaker 1: after the slaves. You know, I'm not a king, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a tyrant. The states ruled themselves individually, and I
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  Speaker 1: have no right to take those from you. So rest
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  Speaker 1: assured you have nothing to worry about, because there was
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  Speaker 1: rumors of succession. But they ended up doing it anyway,
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  Speaker 1: and they were losing to fight, they were losing funding,
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't get enough soldiers to sign up. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they were losing. So then they drown up the narrative. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: one of the big slaves to get more people to
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  Speaker 1: donate and more people to sign up.
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  Speaker 5: One of the big things that they were using to
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  Speaker 5: unify a lot of the abolitionists that had formerly not
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  Speaker 5: been a factor in these elections they were standing from
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  Speaker 5: voting is to say that they were going to free
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  Speaker 5: the slaves. Because the northern abolitionists were causing a major
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  Speaker 5: start up in the North, and to get them on
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  Speaker 5: their side, he had to claim he was freeing the slaves.
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  Speaker 5: And what Abraham Lincoln himself said, if I could unite
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  Speaker 5: the Union without freeing a single slave, I would, And
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  Speaker 5: so you kind of have to look at that narrative
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  Speaker 5: a little bit differently. He wanted total control over the
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  Speaker 5: United States, he didn't want there to be any balkanization.
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  Speaker 5: He wanted to have it as a single union. They
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  Speaker 5: were getting ready for their big push out west. You know,
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  Speaker 5: he had to have everybody together, and that was a
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  Speaker 5: big factor in Bleeding Kansas for example. Right, So this
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  Speaker 5: is one of these precursors to the war, is this
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  Speaker 5: massive fight out in Bleeding Kansas to determine whether or
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  Speaker 5: not this was going to be a North you know,
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  Speaker 5: non slavery state and or a Southern state. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: they fought it out there, and this was where John
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  Speaker 5: Brown got his big start. And it wasn't until you know,
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  Speaker 5: later on when he went up to West Virginia that
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  Speaker 5: you see another one of these big kickoffs for the
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  Speaker 5: Civil War, which was he was attacking magazine and he
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  Speaker 5: was going to free all the slaves, and in the
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  Speaker 5: process he actually kills a black man. So as he's
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  Speaker 5: going towards the magazine, here's a black man there as
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  Speaker 5: a witness, and he's got to shoot the witness so
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  Speaker 5: that nobody gets alerted to the fact that they're about
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  Speaker 5: to take over this military side. So you know, John
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  Speaker 5: Browns though hero, he was just a scumbag liberal like.
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  Speaker 6: The kind that we have today.
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  Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people don't realize that even
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  Speaker 5: the heroes that they say were on the North is
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  Speaker 5: just you know, there's not a lot there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And a lot of people don't realize too. It's
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  Speaker 1: like the Northern you know, settlements, colonies, what they used
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: to be. They were a lot larger territories. And what
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: did they do. They started busting up these large territories
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: into smaller states. And they've done that to create more
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: electoral College votes in their favor. That's why even today
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you look at a map and ninety percent of it'll
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: be red or eighty percent of it, and you only
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: got twenty percent just a couple of little blue dots here. Yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: they take they win there, their candidate wins. Well, New
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: York is even fucked up these little states.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: If Manhattan turns right, right, whatever Manhattan is, is probably
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: going to dictate the whole fucking state. It's fucking crazy.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: You're just still looking at how it is in New York.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: You're like, this is fucked and they're doing it now
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: just a different way. But they're opening borders and bringing
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: in all these migrants and where they're saying, hey, we're
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the ones that let you in, you know, you better
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: vote for us. So they're creating more so they can't
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: bust up territories and make smaller states and create more
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: electoraltorial college points now, so now they have to flood
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: these already existing states with migrants that are going to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: vote the way that they want them to. And that's
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: why you see all of the sanctuary cities are all
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: in blue states and blue counties because they're up in
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the population to try to increase their electoral votes.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: To exemplify this where I'm sitting out right now in Wisconsin,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: during the beginning part of the country, this would be
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: considered Virginia. Virginia went out died far. So I mean,
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: these these places were getting you know, portioned out, and
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: the South was getting left out of every you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: that's where all the big block states are and it
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: wasn't really seen as equal treatment. But in a lot
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: of ways, the South was more advanced culturally than the North.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: A lot of these European visitors, in European you know, elites,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: wanted to come to the South because it was a
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: much different kind of a culture that it was up
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: north where they had Again this immigrant problem and all
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: the rest of this stuff that they didn't want to
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: get robbed, They didn't want to go to New York.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you've ever seen the movie Gangs in
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: New York, it was like that. Pretty much all throughout
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: the Northeast, Baltimore, all these places were really rough to
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: go to. The more industrialized city base was not nearly
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: as you know, nice and expansive and you know, quiet
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: as the South was.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you remember that movie Gangs in New York,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: when they went to the harbor, all those Irish and
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: English immigrants are coming off the boat. The Union soldiers
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: were sitting there with the table for you to get
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: in and get your seat if you had to sign
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: up for the Union Army. I mean that shows you
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: how what a rough shape they were in and doing
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: everything they could to try to turn the tide of
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the war. So once this happened, once the war was
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: over and.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: Lee signed the.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Treaty with Grant, Uh, it was just a few days later.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: It was on Good Friday. The North and everybody was
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: celebrating the victory and unity. Well, of course the Southern
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: states that just you know, lost their shot at freedom,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that they were trying to get They weren't so happy,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you know that they weren't happy with the situation. They
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: weren't happy with with Lincoln. They wasn't ready to celebrate.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: And so on that good Friday he went to take
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: his wife to Ford Steetter and they wanted to watch
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: this play. It was called My Something Cousin American, My
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: American Cousin. Yeah, and that's when the night that John
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Booth killed the President. And when I got to looking
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: through that, there was so much stuff that I didn't
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: realize or know. But John Wicks Booth, he was basically
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: our modern day Tom Cruise. He was a famous, well
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: known actor. You know, he was known to swoon the ladies.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: He was a ladies man and was just a really
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: famous actor. And I didn't realize it, but he was
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: so close with the owner of the four Theater that
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: he even had his mail delivered there. He knew the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: place like the back of his hand. Well where he
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: was a member of this Knight's at the Golden Circle.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Him and a group of conspirators got together before the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: war was over, and they were planning on kidnapping the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: president and holding him for ransom to get all the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Confederate soldiers released. Well, while they were planning all this,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the war ended and then they started working out trade
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: agreements to release the othern prisoners of war. So then
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: therefore his plan was for nought. So he kind of
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: given up, but he went to go pick up his mail,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and then the owner of the joint was like, hey, uh,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: we just found out Lincoln's coming tonight to watch the play.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, really okay, So then he drummed
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: up this thing just on the fly. He's like, well,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gonna kill this guy. So he
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: went up and drilled a hole in the side of
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the wall where he could see like a peep hole
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and check things out. And he never even tried to
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: hide his identity. He walked in that night like he
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: owned the place.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Good dad.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, he said that he walked in. He
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: was shaking hands talk with everybody, like everything was just
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: hunky dory, and he walked up and of course you're
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: thinking the president should have some security detail. Back then,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: he only had one or two guys, and on this
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: night they were a couple of streets down having drinks
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: with friends, and it says that he walks up and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: he knew the play well. And in the third scene
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: there was this big hit moment where everybody starts laughing
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and makes a lot of ruckus and noise. He planned
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: on going in and shooting him then that way people
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: maybe wouldn't hear the gunshots or notice it. But he
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: snuck in that grand scene he shot the president. Well,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a nearby officer heard the bang and smelt the sulfur
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: and busted in and Booth ends up stabbing him in
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: a struggle. And they're in this balcony it's like twelve
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: foot off the ground overlooking the stage, and so Booth
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: after he does this, in him being an actor, he
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: couldn't resist the chance for a final curtain call. He
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: jumped off the balcony and landed onto the stage. But
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: during his landing he broke his leg. He broke his
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: left leg, but he still hands up and turns to
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the crowd, and of course there's chaos going on, and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: he proclaims in Latin, thus to all tyrants, and he
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: was quoting from Shakespeare when Brutus killed Caesar, because that's
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: what he said. He said, thus to all tyrants. And
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: then he took off and there. He had his friend
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: of his holding his horse and ready to for a getaway,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and so they ride hard. I think they said they
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: rode like fourteen miles and made it to this tavern.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: We're there. He had food supplies and guns saphos. Yeah,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: basically it was like a tavern cool and so they
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: got their supplies, never even bothered. The booth didn't even
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: get off his horse because of his broken leg. But
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: he couldn't resist to tell everybody that he just killed
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the president. He had to brag about it. And then
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: he keeps riding down further south and he is so
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: much pain that he stops and sees this doctor. I'm
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: trying to thank me. Look, it's remember his last name
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: was mud.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and the mudhouse I used to know by that
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: every day for work.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so he went to see him and he
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: was a doctor that he had known and seen before.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Because when the doctor seen, he knew who he was
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and he reached his leg. He's not going south. They're
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: looking for him in the south. That's where they assume
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: that he's going to go. So where does he go?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: He goes up north and east or north and west.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: So he wasn't he.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Wasn't you know, playing along with the you know, the
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: whole trope. He was going to find a different way
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: to get back to the South because obviously they had
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: headed him off at the past. But on the way
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: out there looking for him, they find this guy named
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: John B. Guida and he was an Italian born Jesuit
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: that was a dead ringer for John Wilkes Booths and
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: they kind of knew each other too. And so this
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: is giving me a lot of vibes like the Kennedy assassination, right,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: because they had that that a police guy who they
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: called JFK because you know, he was a dead ringer
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: for him.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: There was also multiple ols Waltz. That's another thing that
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: people talk about. There's multiple Oswalt's, Like somebody saw him
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: running up the stairs. Another person saw him like by
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: the grassy knoll, another person saw him like whatever. There
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: was like multiple assassins. They all looked to the same
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: and they were all Oswald.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: There's a recent picture with Oswald standing close to the
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Kennedy you know limousine. Yeah, couldn't get up that window.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Right, So that's where like the multiple Oswald thing comes in.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: So there could possibly have been like multiple John Wilkes
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Booth like, you know, to throw people off the trail.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's interesting to me with this whole
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Nights of the Golden Circle thing and then quoting Shakespeare
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: and you know Lincoln was uh doing seances and ship
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: at the White House. It was conjuring Shpit. Definitely into
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: some weird stuff. And also they say that Lincoln had
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: some form of like weird gigantism and he was probably
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: descended from some weird motherfuckers uh family. Yeah, that's what
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like it wasn't like he was just really
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: shit yeah, right, neflhem ship. It's it's not like, oh,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: he was just a really tall guy and he liked
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: to wear these top hats that made him look like
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: a fucking magician. No coincidence there, but no, he had
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: some kind of weird gigantism and he was like half
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: retarded or something like that too. Yeah, he probably had
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: left flip cleft pallette like Joaquin Phoenix that got fixed
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: over time. You know, I don't you know, right, Marx,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. He was into some some nefarious
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: ship and so probably was John Wilkes Booth. Oh, somebody
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: already commented Beehole, the podcast is complete now, nice.
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: It was a great episode.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that one? Were you there for that?
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: It's beautiful?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I wasn't here.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: I was in the chat.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Yah know you were in the chat. Yes? Yeah.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: Did doctor Mud fix his leg? Yeah?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Doctor Matty reset his leg. And what was crazy
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: is he knew John will Spooth he was part of
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the conspirators that were going to kidnap him, but he
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: had no idea that he killed the president because, like
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I said, this was a last minute thing. He's like,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wing it. And like Hedla said, you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: he kind of went north for a little bit before
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: he started.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: Going to Maryland, right they yeah, in New Maryland first.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Because he was he was panicked. He was freaking out.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: He's kind of playing it as he went along because
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: it wasn't planned. This was a spur of the moment thing.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: And so the the doctor reset his leg, let him
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: stay at his house, and he went to town the next
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: morning and he's seen the Union soldiers and everybody talking
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: about the other president was just shot last night, and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: he was just like, oh my god, he did it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: He did it. So then he goes back and he's like, hey,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to rat you out, man, but you
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: cannot stay here.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: You're gonna, you know, implement me in this. You got
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: to go.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: So they pack up and they take off, and then
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: here's where they go to that that farm. What was
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the name of that farm? I got it in my notes,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: but it was the Garrett farm, Garrett Garrett Farm.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: And the way the main st Yeah, the mainstream narrative
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: is that they go to this barn and they stay
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: with this family for two to three days. And even
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: when I first heard that, I was like, this is
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: guy that just killed the president. He's on the run.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: He's not going to stay somewhere two or three days. Man,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: He's going to be one to be moving. I mean,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: that's how i'd want to be. I'm like, I ain't
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: sitting still. I'm moving because every day I'm sitting still,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: they're gaining on me.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: And they said that on that night, that somehow the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Union soldiers found out he was there. And what I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: had heard through some people was that this family, this
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Garrett family, had found out who he was, what he done,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and they played it nice and sent somebody out to town.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: To tell the Union and then told them, you know, hey,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: we know you guys are doing some of the various stuff.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: You're just going to have to sleep in the barn
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: tonight and tomorrow you're going to be on your way.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: And supposedly they locked them in the barn, the tobacco barn,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: until the Union soldiers showed up, and that they burned
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the barn down to smoke them out, and his co
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: conspirator George comes out with his hands up and surrenders.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: And they say that John Wilkes Booth come out with
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: a rifle in hand, and he was shot in the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: neck and was killed. And that's the mainstream narrative that
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: we're given. And what I had found going through here
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: was that the man that they killed was not John
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Wilkes Booth, and they believe it to be this guy
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: named James Boyd. And can I do a screen chair
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: just okay? I wanted to show you guys this picture
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: this guy. That way people can kind of just see
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the comparison here. Let's see is that the plus button share? Yeah,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: yephre something to.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Be noted here about the tobacco barn, because tobacco barns
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: are classically all open right the ass the air circular
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: around the tobacco so that it can dry out properly,
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: and it takes about a year for it to dry out.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: So these things are open all the top. There's no
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: way that you can lock somebody in a tobacco barn,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: because all they'd have to do is slip out one
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: of the open ports that are open all the way
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: around this thing.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So yeah, there was hundreds of doors and they were
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: all on hinges, and they swung open to let the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: breeze into aired the tobacco out. And this guy hear
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: this picture this I believe it or not. It's not John.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: Wills Booth, James Way.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: This is James Boyd, And you cannot tell me that
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: this is that dude's doppelganger.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they looked a lot of lake.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: And then some people want to say, you know, well,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: if this is the man they killed, how did he
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: wind up in the barn with that George guy. Well,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: they interviewed all these different soldiers that helped them cross
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the river and to get to this farm and set
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: him up there. The Unions found him and beat him
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and questioned them till they spilled the beans. This Boyd
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: guy was a Confederate soldier. He also was in the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Knights of the Golden Circle, and he aided Booth into
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: crossing the river and getting him a ferry and setting
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: him up with these garrets.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: And when Booth went to pay.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Him for his services for helping him, he realized his
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: wallet was missing, and he told Boyd that he had
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: left his wallet on the ferry that if he would
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: go and retrieve his wallet for him, he would pay
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: him even more money he'd bring it back to him.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: So they go on to the barn and Boyd goes
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: to retrieve the wallet and the money. Well, during this time,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: they said that Booth become anxious and didn't want to
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: stay there, and George didn't want to go with him,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: so he went on his ownly left well while they
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: were waiting for him, and he took off. Boyd returns
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: with the wallet and the money, and it was late
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: at night. He had nowhere to go, so he stayed
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: in the barn. And that was the guy they killed
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that night. And this guy's a dead ringer. And when
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: they took his body to the I can't remember the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: name of that. It was some kind of military ship
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: that there was a doctor there and they took him
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: there for an autopsy and examination, and the doctor was
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Frederick May. This guy, Frederick May, was a position of
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Booth and just a year or two prior had removed
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a growth from the back of his neck, so he
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: knew him well. When May seen the body, they called
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: him to identify the body. When he first seen the body,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: he said, this is not John Will's booth. And then
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: his family still has his records, and in his records
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: he said when he seen the body, it looked nothing
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: like Booth, and that he had a broken right leg.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: All the accounts said he broke his left leg, not
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: his right.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: You think they broke his wrong leg after they shot
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: him to make it look like it, because I was
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: gonna say, wouldn't you just have to see if this
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: guy had a fucked up leg, you know, just to
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: make sure if it was the real booth or not.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: So they broke the wrong leg on some fucking hurry
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: up cover job, sloppy bullshit. This is like they didn't
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: even bother to break the right fucking legs.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: They broke.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: This is like, this is like the flap of skin
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: on Kennedy's forehead that they cut open. It was so obvious,
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: but you know, everybody kind of passes it over. What
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: are you gonna do about it?
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And that's the thing that when I seen that,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I was like the guy that operated on his neck
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: knew him well, said no, that's not him. And then
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: even in his own notes states that the wrong leg
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: was broken. And but then later that the people that
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: want to go with the mainstream narrative and says, oh, well,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: he later recanted after he got the looking at it closer,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: that the guy had a scar on the back of
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: his neck, and yeah, that was where he removed that
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: growth that he had, And he later recanted once he
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: got a better look at him. Well, no, the government, uh,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: partly put a gun to his head and told him.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: You know, hey, our president was just killed and the
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: killer got away, and we're not going back to Washington
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and say that he got away. Uh, so we need
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: some stability in the country. And I'm not going back
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: to Washington saying that we screwed up. So you're going
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: to say this is him.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: We just needed the bad guy. They just it didn't
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: matter like they just needed they just needed to get
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: the bad guy.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: They ran across somebody that looked like John Wolke's booth
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: on their way searching around for him, and they shot him.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: And then they're like, well, he does kind of look
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: like John Wolke's booth.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Not a good day to look like John Wilkes booth.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Not at all. He doesn't look like him though, I
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: mean he.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Does for sure, I mean he does. Some of his
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: descendants and like other researchers have like attempted to get
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: the body exhumed right to do DNA comparison. But I
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: find it weird that all the requests have been denied. Yes,
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: I mean it's not like Dave exhumed bodies all the
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: time on a regular basis. But you know, if if
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: the family, like descendants are actually requesting, you know, let's
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: do it.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And they actually have a piece of the spinal
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the vertebrae of the the cadaver that they killed that
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: they believe is John Wicks booth. It's put up like
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: in a museum or archive somewhere, and it even has.
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: The bullet hole through it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: And they even studied that and they said that the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: guy that's uh the and there are reports that shot
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: John Wilkes Booth was like five foot four or something
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: He was short guy, and that.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Booth was like six foot and they said so when
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: they shot, the guy examined that vertebrae and said it
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: was at a twenty degree downward angle. He said, there's
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: no way that that guy made that shot because he's
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: shorter than him. He'd have been going up instead of down.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: This is like the argument I make for the fake
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Paul McCartney. How the fuck did he gain like three feet?
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: The real Paul was like super short, you know what
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, And then the accident happened and then he
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: like all of a sudden, was six foot tall. And people,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: you know, don't know that because how many times do
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: you fucking get to meet Paul McCartney. He's not just
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: going to be at Walmart one day like, oh, you're
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: super fucking tall. When did that happen? Nobody, the general
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: public is not going to know that.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: He puts those things in his shoes, Okay.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Though, It's like it's like
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: with this, with this cadaver thing, It's like, real John
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Wilkes Booth is super fucking tall, but this body that
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: they found is like five to two, right, But the
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: general public is not going to know that. Nobody knows
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: how tall John Wilkes Booth is like, that's that's like
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: obscure information.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And when I got to looking into that, like
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I said, I found a couple of theories that show
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: that he lived, you know, like forty years after this incident.
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and nineteen hundreds.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a couple of them. There's, of course
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: there's a bunch, but there was a couple that really
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: like grabbed me and it was like, man, this is
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: this is plausible to me. And a lot of people
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: got to wrap their minds around the eighteen hundreds. Man,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: there was no internet, there was no telephone. All you
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: had was eyewitness statements on people and drawings of wanted papers.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: New didn't travel fast.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: It would be very easy for you to fake your
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: death and slip away into obliving.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think justph very easy. Yeah, people did
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: it all the time.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: M hm.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: And this guy what I found, I'm sorry.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Well, I was just say, do you know like if
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: or what he like changed his name to or like
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: anything like that.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There were several and like I said, the one
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: that I found that I thought was really compelling, was
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: right here. It says that.
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: A ninety year old woman.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: This is, you know, hundreds of years later, but it
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: says this nine a year old woman named Janita Kelly.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: She was a living relative of Louisa Payne, and she
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: decided to spill the family secret and she said, quote,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: my grandmother's sister married John Wilkes Booth, but they were
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: already married when he revealed his true identity. And she
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: went on to say that the name Booth was going
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: by at the time was John Saint Helen, and said
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: shortly after they were married, Booth came clean to his wife, Louisa,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: and she was so flabbergasted, being the Christian woman that
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: she was, she demanded that they go back and remarry
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and refile under the correct name. And according to Franklin County, Tennessee,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: their court record show in the marriage registry that John
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Wilkes Booth married Louisa Payne with his signature on it
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: matching from February twenty fourth, eighteen seventy two, and that's
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: seven years after the supposed assassination.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Pussy, you'll do that to you make you go back
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: and fucking redo your name. After you've assassinated the presidente.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Dich you come out of hiding for that, right, right?
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Come on? Good?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And when I seen that, I was like, oh
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: my god, gosh. Okay. So now I followed this thread
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: because it was in Tennessee. I was like, oh man,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: this is home court here. I gotta kind of look
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: this out. But it said that this was a closely
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: held family secret until Kelly came forward. When she was
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: asked why she was coming forward now, she said it
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: was not talked about outside the family. She said, but
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I'm coming forward now because I'm ninety years old. And besides,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: all the people that would have gotten into trouble over it.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: Are long gone now.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: So after they got married, they moved off to Memphis
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to start their new life together, and it says that
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Louisa became homesick after a few months and that she
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: wanted to go back home, and that Booth told her,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: We'll go ahead and go on in front of me.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: I'll stay behind.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I'll work a little more, save some money, and I'll
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: come back to middle Tennessee and we'll buy some land
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: and build a house, and we'll start our new lives.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Together go on ahead of me, and so she goes
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: back home, but Booth never returns, and he ends up
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: going to Texas according to this storyline, and befriends this guy,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Phineas Bates, who's a lawyer, and his great granddaughter has
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: his records and the family stories that he befriended this
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: John Saint Helen and that he becomes sick and on
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: his deathbed confessed to Bates that he was John Wilkes
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Booth and he wanted to come clean before he died
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and wanted him to know well. He ended up making
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: it through the night. He didn't die, but when Bates
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: went back to check on him, he was gone. He
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: packed up and left, and they said. It was a
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: few years later that Bates had seen an obituary in
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the I think it was Oneida, Oklahoma paper, and it
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: had the name of John Saint Helen and it matched
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: his how old he was and everything thing else. So
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: he wanted to see if this was him. So he
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: travels up to Oklahoma and goes to the mortuary where
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: he was being held, and the mortuary said, oh, are
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you his family? He's like, no, I believe he's a
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: friend of mine, but I wanted to come and be sure,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: And he said, well, come and identify the body, because
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: nobody's come forward to claim the body or identify it,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: so you're the only person we got, so come look
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: at him and verify who this is. And Bates went
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: in and he said, without you know, any kind of
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: second thought or hesitation, that this is John Saint Helen.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: And then when he got to talking to some of
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the people that found his body and everything, that he
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: once again thought he was dying and confessed to the
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: people there that he was in fact John Wilkes Booth
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: and that he supposedly killed himself by drinking arsenic, and
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the arsenic they didn't know what it was. They just
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: thought he know he died. They found out later because
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: when they embalmbed the guy mixed with that arsenic, it
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: petrified and mummified him, so it perfectly preserved him, froze
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: him in time, and nobody would take the body, so
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: it was given to Bates, and Bates takes it home
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: and puts it in his garage, and then he tries
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: to even slash his pet.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting with the dumble motherfucker of the house.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And he tries to sell to the corpse the
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: mummy to people and says, oh, this is the famous
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: John Woke's booth, and he even almost sold it to
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Henry Ford. He prized it to Henry Ford for one
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars and he almost bought it, but he backed
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: out last minute. So Phineas Bates dies with this petrified
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: mummy in his garage. So when he died, yeah, his
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: wife tries to about the name Bates man. Yeah exactly,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and she ends up selling it to a traveling carnival
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: like a freak show. And this body toward the United States,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you see it like a border all the way up
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: till like the nineteen seventies, and it suddenly disappeared, never
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: to be seen again.
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they just they strung lights up on him and
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: decorated him like a Christmas teary, Like what the fuck?
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Twenty five cents? Come see that John Wilkes booth who
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: faked his death and lived many years after.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: So he was mummified, sold to a circus. But we're
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: not allowed to dig up the cadaver body, Like how
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: is this okay? How is it okay to have a
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: human mummy in your house? And sell it to a circus,
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: but we can't exhume the grave, Like, what the fuck
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: this is so sacrilegious?
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Anyways, are we sure this isn't the myth of Osiris?
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: Are we gonna a little bit of you know, Masonic
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: mythology here, because this sounded really strange, like almost like
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: each one of these phases are planned out and mythologized
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: in some way.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: So what did they do like after the circus act
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: or whatever they just used him for like firewood or
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: something like, did they ever bury the course.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Or what disappeared? They don't know what happened to.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: It disappeared sky or wood? Maybe, Yeah, they grounded him
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: up and turned him into toilet paper or something.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: Right, it wasn't cocaine in the in the White House
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: when they found it. That was actually John Wilkes was
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: behind it, all ground up and they were sniffing it.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: That'll get you high every time, but it'll give you
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: a pain in your left leg for some reason.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not the right one, the right.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: And another one that I found that was really interesting
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: was that he supposedly stole the identity, So this was
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: modern day identity or I misspoke, ancient identity theft. But
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: he stole the identity of an englishman and uh nic
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: go down here and find his name, U John Saint Helen.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Uh Oh And I forgot to mention when he moved
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: off to Oklahoma. Uh, he had changed his name and
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: went by David E. George. Yeah, and it appears to
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: be a code. Two of Booth's conspirators were David Harold
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: and George E. Azot. So it's like he took the
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: two names of his buddies that combined them.
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: There.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Uh but uh, let's see, Okay, Yeah, like you guys
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: had mentioned in nineteen ninety four, they petitioned, petitioned to
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: have his remains exumed to have DNA testing to put
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: all this stuff to bed, because there's a lot of
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: people that come forward and said that they were children
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: of Booth from relations outside of marriage while he was
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: on the run but supposedly dead, and so they wanted
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: to do the DNA testing to put this to bed.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: And at first the judge agreed, and then later someone
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: unknown petitioned and talked to the judge and then he
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: changed his mind and he pulled the whole thing being done.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: But Chuck Hubert, he was a John Wills Booth researcher.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: And here's what I was saying. He claimed to pull
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: off what we'd call identity theft today. He stole the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: identity of an Englishman that was visiting Indiana at the time,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: and he was named John B. Wilkes, so very similar.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: But he was born in Sheffield, England in eighteen twenty two.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: But there he stole his identity and went to India
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: and remained there until his death in eighteen eighty three.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Chuck also believes Booth returned to the United States in
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: eighteen seventy three and was photographed.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: And they have a photograph of John B.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Wilkes during that last visit and it looks identical to Booth.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: And I have that picture too. Let's check that out images.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: That sounds like that's the Golden Circle shit, because he
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: had there in South America.
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: Well, and just think he had being an actor. He man, sorry,
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: I can't even talk when I read that. Damn. What
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: was they saying? Oh, because he was a good actor
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: and he could do an English actor sent So I mean,
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: yes he could.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Probably I mean even being the actor, yeah, I mean
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: how could he? Yeah, of course he can.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: People so what are we looking at right here?
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: That is the two guys, the John John B. Wilkes.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, see this is like the.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, no, I lied Tiggins.
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: That is the other guy.
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: The comparison between John Wilkes is on the left and
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: the other guy, the.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: The Boyd, James Boyd.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: James Boyd was on the risk one.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: This piece.
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: So what happened? Did James Boyd not have any friends
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: or family or did they not notice he was gone?
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: It was an unsavory fucker if nobody noticed he was miss.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: What happened during all this time? They've even documented it's
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: in the record. He was a Confederate soldier and he
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: was captured and was a prisoner of war and they
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: petitioned to have him released and he was just recently released.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: And that's that was the last documentation that they had
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: of the guy was right around this time of the
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: assassination that he was set free. But that's that's the
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: guy from the Englishman.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: They all have the same like mustache and receding hairline
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: thing going.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: On, and we.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Looked like Mark mystic Mark from my family thinks.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: So the British connection really interests me because you know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: a lot of people say that the British were bankrolling
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: the South and that they they were invested in the
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: nights of the Golden Circle idea.
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: Just kind of break up the Union.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: So if if he's throwing his lot in with the
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: British and going by this British accent and everything else,
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: that kind of makes sense.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing. He had the money and
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: the ties of the Golden Circle. And you got to
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: remember this is another rabbit trail, but it kind of
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: ties in was the Confederates. They had their capital up
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: there in Richmond, right there on the border of the
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: North Well the last stand.
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: Robert E.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Lee was trying to hold him back, and he told Davis,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a losing battle. It's just a matter
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: of time before they get past our men and they
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: hit the capitol. So Davis told him, just buy me
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Give me twenty four hours to get
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: my cabinet out and to save the treasury. And it
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: was documented in today's money there was two hundred million
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: dollars in the Confederate treasury. So he gave him twenty
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: four hours and he loaded up nine trains with his cabinet,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: and all of the money and started heading south. And
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: here's where you get this quote unquote conspiracy. Now this
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: is all happening at the same time with the John
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Wills booth stuff. Okay, they stop off of North Carolina
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: and they have a log well don't quote me on
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: the number, but when they stopped in North Carolina, they
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: stopped off for a minute and then traveled further south.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: But the logs reflect that there was the equivalent of
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: like twenty million dollars gone that got unloaded there. Then
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: they go down into Georgia, they make another stop once again,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: here's another forty or fifty million dollars missing from the logbook.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: So it's like every stop they took it kept dwindling down,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: dwindling down, and that they finally make it to their
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: destination and they deposit the money into this bank and
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: the deposit note was for i want to say, like
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: to the equivalent today of like fifty million dollars. So
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: there was one hundred and fifty million dollars missing from
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: this ride. And they say that he handed it over
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: to members of the Knights of the Golden Circle and
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: they hid it all over the country as stashes because
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: they said they wanted to have enough money put back
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: for when the South rose again, they'd have enough money
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: to have an army. And then you have all these
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: treasure hunters to this day talking about the mystery glyphs
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: all over the world, and even Jesse James is tied
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: into this. You find all of these symbols and coded
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: language that is known to be associated with the Knights
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: of the Golden Circle and its treasure maps leading to
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: all these stashes. Is the is the tail. So they
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: had all this money, it would be nothing for them
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: to shell out some money to send somebody that's helped them,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: and that's a brother of theirs, to start a new
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: life in India.
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: Well, all over Missouri they have caves that they claim
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: Jesse James Stash is Golden or Stash. You know that
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: that whole thing really smacks of the Knight's templar, because
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: if you know about Oak Island, you know you've got
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: these huge treasure vaults, and you know this whole treasure
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: train and all the rest of this stuff about the
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: South Rising Angrid very very similar to that. And just
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: recently they took down the Roberty Lee statue and inside
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: of it was a time capsule and you can you
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: can watch on the videos on live video. This woman
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: is going through all the artifacts inside of this time
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: capsule and she pulls out a postcard by the Knight's
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: templar inside of the Roberty Lee statue and she she
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: lifts it up and you could audibly hear her say, oh, no,
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: is it I was supposed to talk about that?
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: You know there?
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: It is right there in the uh skit here?
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: What well?
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: And she does the mythology and she doesn't want to
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: get bogged out with that because again, this is one
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: of the oldest conspiracies in the United States.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. And this also sounds like the plot for
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: National Treasure two.
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: Uh, like National Treasure three.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: While at this now, because one of the main consultants
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: for that movie was Bob Brewer, and he's a world
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: famous treasure hunter and you know what, he's famous for
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: hunting and finding these treasure trows from the Knights of
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: the Golden Circle.
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: And all these samples and.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Stuff, and so the Treasure reached out.
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: To him and he was a consultant for that show. Well,
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: you've got so you brought up Oak Island. The guys
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: in Oak Island. We're also looking for the UH one
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: of the stashes of Confederate gold that allegedly uh. I
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: think in Lake Michigan, like some of the barges, there's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: something so that's that's a pretty crazy one. There was
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: a deathbed confession and all kinds of stuff going on there.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: It's a crazy story too.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Anyway, they caught them sentinels because the money they give
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: the trophes to these guys, and they caught them sentinels
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: and they were to guard this with their life, and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: then when they died, you know, or it was close
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: to dying, they would have to pass it to another sentinel,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: which was their son or something like that. And you know,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: it's a good possibility that some of these kids would
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: be like, I don't believe it's junk, or I ain't
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: doing that, and they wasn't thinking, you know, because when
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: they were making these carvings in these stones and in
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: these trees, because they've done a lot of them in trees,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: it's been you know, one hundred years, one hundred and
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: fifty years. Those trees that were once eye level are
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: now way up here and you can't even see them anymore.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: But to corroborate that whole story with him going to India.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people say, oh, you can just
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: make up anything, but there's a doctor document trail with
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: that one. Also. When he died in eighteen eighty three,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: this was eighteen years after his supposed death. He was
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: executed in India for a crime. But before they killed him,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: they allowed him to leave a last will and testament.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: And in the will and testament, I'll read you some
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: of the stuff here and why I kind of told
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: you is a little bit about this pre roll. In
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: his will, it says twenty five thousand dollars to oga
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Rita Rosalie Wilkes, and it says in quotation natural air
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: of my body. She was boost daughter by his wife Azola.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Another twenty yeah, another twenty five thousand dollars to marry
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Louis Turner, and it says in quotations natural heir of
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: my body. This was the daughter of John's mistress of
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: the time of Lincoln's murder, Ella Turner. And then it
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: says one thousand dollars a year to Henry Johnson, quote
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: a free negro to whom I owe my very life.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Johnson was Booth's personal valet who helped him escape up
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: to Harber's ferry in West Virginia. So why would an
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Englishman living in India care so much for all of
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: John Wilkes, Booth's wife's girlfriend's daughters in valet.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good fucking question. I have a question too, though,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: How do we know that they didn't set this whole
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: fucking thing up for the other guy to get shot
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: instead of him, Like that was part of the plan
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: all along, and Boyd or whatever the fuck his name
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: was just didn't know it. He was like an unwilling
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: participant in his own death kind of thing.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it could have very well been, because you know
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: what I.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Mean, it's like for him to have this like a well, yeah,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: because it's like he went on to live this kind
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: of exotic life. You know, he's going here, there, he's
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: married to this person, that person changing his name, going
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: to India. It's like it was set up for him
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: to get away basically, which, by the way, I don't right,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: But it's like it's like with Oswald. I don't think
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: the body that's in the casket that they buried and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: said this is Oswald. I don't even know if that's
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: actually Oswald and it's just like some dude that they
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: fucking killed and oh yeah, we got him, guys, we
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: shot him instead, like they fake a lot of this stuff,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: even going back to you know, Civil War days, I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: still think they were faking people's death and shit and
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: fucking covering stuff up. So I mean just saying.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: For that, and it was proven on a lot of
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: them that they were freaking their dance back then, because
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: like we said earlier, you know, it was very easy
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: during this Jesse James day like six times.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: One thing I keep coming back to is how lit
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: it would be to be on a conspiracy podcast in
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: the eighteen seventies. Holy fuck, they had all the good
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: ship back there.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Did you guys watch Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: It's quite entertainment. I like, that's quite entertaining telling me
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: it's a fucking president man, that's it was making vampires.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: What we don't know is part of the John Wilkes
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: boost story is that they were actually all hunting fucking vampires.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: I actually really liked that movie. Every time I I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: asked somebody if they watched it, they asked me if
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: I'm retarded or something like. It's like, why would you
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: even watch something called Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter? But it's
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: actually really good and they it was really cool with
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: him sitting in that chair, right, Yeah, and he's got
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: like his axe and yeah. But yeah, I.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Think that he.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: Did live a double life. Though I don't know if
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: he was a fucking vampire hunter, but I do think
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: he led a double life. Lincoln did I think that
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: this whole thing. Probably he likes giant hole. He just
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: likes to get plugged with.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: We always come back to this.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: As another dude.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: Didn't their son dies Son of the Times headless? Probably?
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: But me a real today said more proof that the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: giants are real, And it showed these guys like in
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: this ship pulling up something from the bottom of the
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: ocean and it was a huge like iron butt plug a.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: Serious literally literally. Yeah, but didn't the Lincoln Sun die
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: weird too, like at a young age or something like that,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: And there's like some weird stuff around. Yeah, see, that's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: that comes from the weird nefhl and bloodline, those those
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: blood disorders and the you know butt stuff.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, extra fingers, genetical malfunctions.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: Actually, no, guy who has six toes.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Oh you know I.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Who had six fingers.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was told the extra digits removed. The plastic
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: surgeries a lot more common than expect.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. Well I want another blood type too, would.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: You say about the blood type?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so they're probably all ourge negative.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: Oh right, Yeah, I mean I think I heard something
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: about oh negative being significant to you. Yeah, it could
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: be like the royal family kind of covets the o nags.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because it's a it's just a who knows.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's a whole other episode.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: I do have suspicions though about Lincoln. I mean, like
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: his weird height, and like the seances and ship, that
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: white house, their kid, nice wife.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: Really a lot of weird stuff too.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: The Lincoln monument, I mean, they make him super huge.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: They put him in this Roman style temple at the
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: end of this reflecting pool, Like there's almost right, there's
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: something really religious about that place, and they were going
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: for something that it was an ancient religion with the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: entire layout of Washington, d C. So having that reading
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: him a giant.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: As if symbolism wasn't enough for them, they have to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: like him and make him a giant that looks over
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: everybody and it's.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: You know, sitting there looking at water.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: I can't even say it.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: Do you do you know the significance of that reflecting pool.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: It's a vaginal wall, well it could be.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's high, high level of goddess magic being
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: on there. So during the ancient Roman days, they had
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: this place called the Diana's Mirror, right, This was the
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: district for Diana, and they had this big reflecting pool,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: and this is talked about James George Fraser's Golden Bough.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: This was where they would have the Golden Bow ritual
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: where they would have the death of a king ritual. Right,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: And so Diana Nemorensis was the name of the goddess there.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: And this Diana Nemorensis ritual would take place where a
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: escaped slave or you know, some other prisoner would go
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: to this grove and then pull a bow off at
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: the top of the tree and then the old king
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: of the grove would have to fight this new guy,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: and whoever killed the other one would become the new
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: king of the grove.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: And what we see in Washington, DC is we've got
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: this statue on top of the Capitol Building, which is
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: highly emblematic of kind of this Diana Artemis character. Right,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: So we've got Diana Artemis right there on top of this,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: you know, Isis's belly right in front of the Washington Monument,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: which is clearly a penis. And then you've got the great,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: big old reflecting pool right there, which is part of
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: this Diana Nemorensus ritual with the sacrificed King of the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: Grove at the other end of it.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: Mmm.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: Wow, I've not heard that.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: I always heard like it was kind of like an
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: imitation of the Egyptian magic, like how the pharaohs were
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: the embodiment of the all god of Cyrus, and how
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: they had that ritual where they would bring him into
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: the temple, and then when the shadow of the obulist
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: went into the domed temple where the pharaoh was, it
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: was a conception, and therefore Osiris was born into his
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: body and kind of possessed him, and he came out
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: the god king. And that's why we have that whole
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: presidential thing that you know, he meets in that womb
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: and they have their you know, consults, but then he
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: moves from there to the stage in front of that
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Phallus and gives his speech and stuff. So it was
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: kind of like, I've always heard that that's.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 6: A like a remake of that. I hadn't heard that
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: that's wild.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: In this book, the Golden As, this is a second
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: century Latin sort of like a pulp book that they
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: had fiction back then, right, so this is really old.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: He goes back to that time period. They still have
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: the cults of Isis and Osiris active in the second century, right,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: so this stuff was not foreign to that time period
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: that they're depicting in Washington, DC. Right, they had all
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: of those cults sort of merge into organizations like the Freemasons,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: the Knights, Templar, all these other you know, sort of
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: secret societies kept that stuff moving, and those are the
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: people who founded America. M Yeah.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: And then there's a lot of stuff like.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: See somebody, do.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: You think like, sorry, do you think like Lincoln actually
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: was assassinated to like just in my opinion, my humble opinion,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: you guys can disagree with me. I think a lot
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: of this stuff, even back then is like fake and staged.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: I mean it literally an actor shot him, you know
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: what I mean. It just makes me wonder if he
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: even is dead at all, because there's like this he
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: became like almost like saint like after his death and
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: honest tabe and all this, and he was actually like
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: a pretty unsavory motherfucker, Like he wasn't like this stand
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: up guy that he's made out to be. But in
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: death he's kind of like become this, you know, honest
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: abe and he was so great and all.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: This stuff is.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: You're so great then, you know, right, right.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: That's the point.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: That's the point of the ritual, right is it makes
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: everybody sad, and it lionizes the victim, and it changes
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: the trajectory.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: Of history, you know.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: And if you have you ever heard of King Kill
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: thirty three, this is a popular one back at the
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: late seventies, but I think it was all about how
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: the Freemasons were the ones who killed Kennedy, going along
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: with this King Kill thirty three ritual, which comes directly
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: out of the Golden Bough by J. G.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: Fraser.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: So they're talking about that back then. And then you
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: look at the architecture of Washington, DC and how it
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: matches up with all of these different factors that are
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: going on, like especially the Virginia flag. Right, You've got
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: this woman with their breast exposed. She's standing on top
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: of a guy saying, thus always the tyrants, And that
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: was made way way way back in the day. But
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: like that same sort of spirit is carried through through
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: this assassination. There's a definite callback to some of the
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: earliest times in American history going through these different characters.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what he's saying.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: The uh, the uh, Like look at these two assassinations, right,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: Lincoln and JFK. Before JFK, and there's a quote by
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: Lyndon B. Johnson and he was like, oh, we'll have
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: those inwards voting democrat from you guys know the quote
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: Right before that, it was like everybody kind of held
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: linking up as this like savior of the slaves and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: he free and you know, it was like everybody vote
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: Republican because he's the one who freed us. And then
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: it was like JFK also assassinated, and then Lyndon B.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: Johnson's like, we'll have those inwards voting democrat from here
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: on out or something like it's like some weird cultural shift,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: but both are marked by huge assassinations that like changed
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: history forever. So are they really dead? I don't know.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: Is it like an agenda to like push narratives and
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: make people saint like? Because JFK is also like saint
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: like after he died.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: Although these events are also accompanied by communism, there's a
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: lot of Marxism that goes in and around these characters.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: Like you know, Lincoln was writing to Karl Marx like
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: this was the start of what Marxism was. Is their
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: whole exchange back and forth and then what we see
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: in the nineteen sixties going on with all the hippie
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: movement and all the communism and liberalism, then these are
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: revolutions that are taking place. We're just sicking from the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: outside instead of looking at the whole picture.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that the Civil War,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: like I said, it wasn't over slavery. It was over
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: a kingly tyrant force. There was one section of the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: country with a bunch of rich elites that was controlling
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: the destiny of America, and the Southern States stood up
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: and try to rebel, and they squashed them back into submission.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: A total buddy at work I was talking about this.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I said, imagine if you had a girlfriend and you
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: guys were together and happy, and all of a sudden
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: she comes home and says, you know, she's unhappy, she
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to be with you anymore, and leaves. That's
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: kind of what happened here. But then the boyfriend goes after,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: smacks her around, blacks both of her eyes and bloodies
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: are her mouth, knocks her few teeth out, and drags
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: her back home. And now we're going to live all together,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: peacefully and happily.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: For it somehow? How does that work? Right?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: Well, I think what really kicked it off was Fort
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: Sumter because they're saying, look, you can't have this union
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: for it in the South.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: This has got to go, yeah.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: And they didn't want to go and they're like, you
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: got to get the fuck out of here. So they
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: attacked Fort Sumter back before Abraham Lincoln and nothing happened.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: So they thought they could do it again and nothing
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: would happen again. But that's what kicked off the whole thing.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: And you know, people were out there at bull Run
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: actually picnicking over the battlegrounds because they thought, oh, well,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: this is just going to be a short thing. We'll
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: go out and see the battle and it'll all be
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: over with soon, but it wasn't, and it just kept
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: escalating and escalating. People didn't want to believe that it
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: was actually starting.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Civil War, that was the the death of
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: the Republic as we know it.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: So John Wilkes Booth's descendants or whatever, he had some kids, right, like,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: how do you like did they know? And if they knew,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: how do you even tell people that? Like you go
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: to school and you're like, my daddy killed Abraham Lincoln?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: Like how do you keep that a secret? I mean,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: that's do you think that they knew?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: I think it was just I mean that was information
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: didn't travel so far back then, but that was you know,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: big news the president, you know, in the Civil War.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if they just went to home
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: school or what, but definitely the descendants were not proud of,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: like the great great grandchildren that that was something that
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: was like the family secret and taboo.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: It was enough talk about at the time. They were
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: probably like kind of, you know, my dad killed the
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: you know, especially if they were from down south, probably
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: revered a little bit.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: You know, Jessey James, he was a hero to the
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: you know, the lower class distance because they made him
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: out to be the Robin Hood. So according to where
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: he's at, some people love Jesse James, So maybe.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: Maybe maybe some of the kids.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: Well, guys, I got something to confess. I'm actually John
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: Wilkes Booth.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, you.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: Guys believe me?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: Why would why would they believe them?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: Back then?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: I mean everybody, I see, I see where you're going
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: with that. That's very true. I mean you could say
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: anything right like, it's hard to believe that, especially back then.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: It's not like there was a conspiracy theory podcast you
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: could listen to. If somebody said, like my dad's John
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Wilkes Booth, they'd be like, okay.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: What kind of crack started screaming about b holes.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: But just the documentary and somebody threw up the postile ability,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: they said, you know, well what if or how easy
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: would it be? You know, John Wilkes Booth in the
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: South was a hero to a lot of the Southern people,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: and he was already a famous actor. He was a
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: handsome guy.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: They said, the ladies just kind of swooned over him,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: that he had, you know, these dark eyes and could
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: you know, manipulate people and kind of put a spell
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: on people. He was just, you know, really charismatic guy.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: How tempting would it be for a young man, uh
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: to go down south and tell some girl that's totally
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: out of his league, like, hey, you may not realize
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: they or not, but I'm kind of a big deal.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: You didn't know it.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Knock up a bunch of girls and leave town and
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, I met John Wikes Booth, I
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: had his baby.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, who's reading the medical report that says that he
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: broke the wrong leg?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: You know, Robert May I think was his name.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: So somebody in the comment that somebody made a comment
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: about Pascal Beverly Randolph Ooh and dude, if you just
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: telling everybody out there if he has known who that is, Wow,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: that's a freaking rabbit hole the good right there?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: He brought sex magic to America.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, basically, And you're saying Wilkes or uh, Abraham Lincoln
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: was friends with this person.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: Right, Somebody on there said that that Lincoln was, but
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: I could find I couldn't find any links. But you
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: know that doesn't mean it. I'm not like some you know,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: wizard or something that can.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: Well, he went on to make Beverly Hall right Beverly
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: Hall up in Pennsylvania.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's definitely some overlap there. But whether or not
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 6: they actually knew each other, I don't know, but there's
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: definitely some overlap, especially when you get in that they
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: were in the same circles. And I mean both Lincoln
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: and his wife were deeply curious about spiritualism and stuff
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: like that because of their the tragedy with their son
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: and other shit.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: So I mean, like I remember reading somewhere his wife, Well,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: I think one of Gan's kind of alluded to it,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: but I have not looked into it, but I've heard
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: more than one place that she was kind of a
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: she was kind of witchy. Yeah, was known to you
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: like contact and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: Really because he was she was trying to contact her son.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: I think was a lot of the driver force. But
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: it's all it takes, man. But Lincoln was also known
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: to have like prophetic dreams as well. It's another story
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: that I that I see in there a lot, And
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: I think there's a story of him having a dream
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: weeks prior to his assassination that she was going to
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: get assassinated and how it was done like he dreamed it.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: He was at his own funeral, and he was asking
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: people about who was in the hospital.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a Daniel Davy Crockett, you know, the
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: famous Tennessee pioneer.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, from my state.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I did a show with doctor Judd Burt in a
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: while back, and I did not know this, and I
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: felt ashamed because he was from my state. But when
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: I was writing my book, you know, he was like, hey,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: did you know that two of your pioneer heroes from
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Tennessee had big foot encounters? He said, Davy Crockett and
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Daniel bou Daniel b had one, And I said no,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't. And he did a show with me and
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: he was saying that Davy Crockett when he went to
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Texas to fight at the Alamo. On the way there,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: he said that Harry humanoid human. That's how he described
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: it in his letter, because he wrote a letter back
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: home and described as Harry, you know, covered in Harry
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: human approached him and spoke with him and said, Davy Crockett,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: go home, go back to Tennessee. You will find nothing
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: but death here. And he actually wrote that in his
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: letter and sent home. He said, maybe I ate some
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: bad meat or something, but I saw this and then
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: he went on to Texas to die.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: This is what a lot of Native Americans say about
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: the Bigfoot is that they're messengers, right, and whether or
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: not you're scared of them or not determines on whether
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: or not you're going to get the message. So what
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: they'll say is, if you bring a bigfoot encounter to
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: a Native American, they'll be like, yeah, what did he
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: tell you? You're like, tell me, no, he was just
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: scary and I ran away. But Daniel Boone's having the
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: experience where he didn't run, he was calm, and then
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: he gets this message that was a prophetic vision. So like,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: we probably don't have the bigfoot thing in perspective at all.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there's just so many stories, yeah, right,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: shameless product placement. So you know, there's tons of stories
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: from UH. I mean dozens of UH native tribes that
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: talk about them trading and communicating and whatnot with you know, nothing.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 6: You can't describe it as other than bigfoots. But they
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: were in tribes and they just called them. They were
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: different another tribe that lived in the area. So I mean, yeah,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: peral giants like that giants, right, I think there.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: Are probably a lot like how people depict the Mothman
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: being some kind of harbinger of doom and messenger of whatever.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: I do have to say though, and you know, call
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: me an asshole, but I was listening to this, like
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: in Spear radio show the other night, and there was
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: this old guy on there and he was like, I've
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: been to a Bigfoot wedding, and I've seen bigfoots give
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: birth and I've seen and it's like, I'm sitting here,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: the host of a conspiracy podcast going this guy's on
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: fucking crack, like there's no way he's like going to
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: bigfoot weddings, and like like there's there's too much.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: There's like a line, you.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: Know, because when you tell somebody you have a conspiracy
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: theory podcast, they're like, oh yeah, like Bigfoot and like
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: Area fifty one and stuff, And I'm like, actually, that's
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: like the least that I ever talked about ever, know.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's you know.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it when people have cool stories to tell
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: about that stuff, but for me, it's like it's hard
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: for me to think, like somebody's out there just barbecuing
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: in their backyard and a book Bigfoot walks up and
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: it's like you want to come to my wedding and
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: you know, like I don't. It's hard for me to
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: comprehend that. But I do think they could be some
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: kind of spiritual being, like I said a lot like
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: with the moth Man thing. I think that they could
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: be like interdimensional type beings. I don't know. You know,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: they're having weddings and just inviting random dudes from their backyard.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 8: But you got any of this, right, oh right, yeah, exactly.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 8: It's so worse when it's like I've even had that
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 8: happen on my own show with the Persons, like I
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 8: can't tell you where it is and we have no
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 8: video footage of it, and I'm.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: Like, well, he's got pictures of it. It's just he
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: had his thumb over the camera lens the whole.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: Time, right, yeah, it didn't get backed up onto the cloud.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know what happened, but it's like I don't know.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: It's just some things are hard for me to wrap
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: my brain hoole around, But like stuff like what we're
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: talking about right now, that's my favorite kind of stuff.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: Like serial killers. You know, what was Lincoln actually assassinated
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: or not? We'll never know.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: John vampire.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: Was he an actual vampire under that ship that I
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: can get on board with.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: I wanted it.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: I wanted a selfless plug too, but I guess it's
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: really not for a product or an episode on Halloween.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: I will be dropping have a vampire low, but it's
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: a little bit more of a twist on it where
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: I think some of it may have at least a
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: vampire that I'm describing in that show where I think.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: It may have came from. Technically. Oh yeah, that's right, Ben,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: And I sent you the script to look at.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I wanted you to know what
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: the fuck I.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Was talking about in case I came on. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: It's very interesting. Uh, definitely check it out when it drops.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: It's uh, it's one of my theories on it at least,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: But all right, sorry, keep keep going. Guess was there
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: anything else yet? You wanted to add anything? Doucker, You pretty
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: much thought no, that was just.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: Kind of like I said, I just found this, you know,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: like two weeks ago, and I found those two stories
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: kind of how it correlated with the Knights of the
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: Golden Circle. But I am diving deeper, like I said,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: I met this guy named Dan. He has researched nothing
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: but Jesse James and his seventy three aliases and his
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: connections with the Knights of the Golden Circle. And I
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: actually he said, he come on the show and talk
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: with me. But I talked to him on the phone
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: just last night. We talked for almost two hours. Man.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: I love this dude. He's right up my alley. We're
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: in the same lane on a lot of stuff. But
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: he even told me last night, you know which, I
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: don't know the story behind it. I'm just going off
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: what he said. But he said, yeah, I looked at
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: your channel because I seen him an email and then
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: he give me his number. He said, I seen it
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: in your channel. You recently done show on John Wilkes Booth.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: I said, yeah I did. And he said, you know
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: how he really died? Right? I said, I've heard a
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: few stories. I said, one sounds pretty promising. I said,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it was the Oklahoma arsenic poisoning. And
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: he said, that's what I believe it to be. He said,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: but he didn't commit suicide. And I said, huh. And
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: he said, Jesse James poisoned his drink. He said, because
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: the Knights of the Golden Circle knew that the Union
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: and everybody was close on his tail. He was about
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: to be apprehended, and they were afraid he was going
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: to squeal. So they sent Jesse James, because he was
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: there in the area, to go and kill John Wills
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: booze arsenic.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: And his drink and turn him into a fucking mummified
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: you know, cheeto puff.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: Mm traveling traveling freak show right to fuck. Carney knew
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: well Smooth was a Carnie.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: Oh good, here's the story, because I lived in Oklahoma
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: for like thirteen years, and there's this story. You can
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: go to the grave site and there is actually a
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: haunted bed and breakfast, but they tell this story of
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: a guy who somehow got mummified and was sold to
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: the circus and they hung him up and nobody knew
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: who he was and they kind of buried him as
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: like this nameless, faceless guy. And I just find it
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: odd that it's in Oklahoma. You're talking about Wilkes being
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: in Oklahoma, and there's this this urban legend about a
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: guy who got turned into a mummy and sold to
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: a circus. And now I'm thinking it was it fucking
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: John Wilkeson's possible. That was like, it's like the realist shits, Wow,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: fucking Oklahoma thought from Oklahoma.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 6: Dam they're crazy. Yeah, I mean like over or what
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 6: is it like two thirds of Oklahoma's federal land?
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: Whoa Yo, I was in federal prison in Oklahoma. That
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: literally was on the ground under an airport. Yo.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: You went, Yo, this is crazy. You went from the
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: fucking plane. You're you're shackled with another This is crazy.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: I don't even first you got it. You get stripped
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: before you even get on the fucking plane. So you're naked,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: they check you, you get fucking your ship, you put your
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: clothes on, you get connected to somebody else. Now you're
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: on a plane. I don't know how the fuck you're
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: picking up anything on a plane. You go on a plane,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: you fly to Oklahoma, you get off the thing, and
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: you go straight into the fucking ground nothing, you're not
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: touching anything, and you still gotta get fucking stripped again.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: How the fuck did I pick anything up from where?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: You just want to stare at beeholes?
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: Yeh, that's right.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they bring it back to the bee holes.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: But the fuck but no, that was wild and it
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: is gi can't job prizy conspiracy.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: You know, supposedly the guy that captured him planted a
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: gun in the outhouse and then left to go gather
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: the gallow wood, and then when Billy went to the bathroom,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: he suddenly had a gun and killed the guy watching
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: him and escape. So maybe they give you a razor
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: blade and put up your butt.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, But how do you put an entire
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: gun in your be hole? You just gotta be I
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: think I'd rather shoot myself with it first then put.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: It in my twenty five autos, those little Colt twenty
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: five autos, they're like that big you know, maybe.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: But do you put it in sideways or do you
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: have to? Like, how do you I'm just saying that sounds.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: Like, how do you think they got something fresh?
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: Fucking hound?
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: No, for real, for real, Julia, how do you think
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: in spread all a prison they get some of the cell
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: phones in there?
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: My god? Is it like an iPhone fifteen or no?
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: I mean no, I mean they had like some of
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: those cheap, cheap, cheap flip phones.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: But I'm yeah, but I mean still, I mean, what
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: the fun Yeah, I don't know. I mean it's probably
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: like you know, how much money that is. I mean still,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it for that.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably open and just got wider.
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  Speaker 4: Quick.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody call me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, fucking vibrates, vibrate.
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  Speaker 4: What we don't know is right before John Wilkes Booth
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  Speaker 4: got mummafied, he definitely had some stuff shoved into his
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  Speaker 4: b hole. But we'll we'll never know about that because
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  Speaker 4: he's the circus.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, as so, yes it did.
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  Speaker 6: We're there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you know what they want to ask, said the
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  Speaker 3: Brown Circle.
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  Speaker 2: Knights of the Golden Balloon. Knot.
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  Speaker 1: That's how That's how folks are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. To wrap it up, I actually had a serious question.
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  Speaker 2: I fucked this all up. Uh, and only because I
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  Speaker 2: think we've had a guest come on about this before.
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  Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Did you ever hear Knights of
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  Speaker 2: the Golden Horseshoe?
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  Speaker 1: I have not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if there's a connection.
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  Speaker 5: That's actually pre that's pre American history, because that was
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  Speaker 5: the Knights of the Golden Horseshoe came from the College
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  Speaker 5: of William and Mary.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, maybe we had Francis Dale on it where it
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  Speaker 3: was like that I gotta get him back on again.
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  Speaker 5: Answer went over the mountains they got really drunk and
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  Speaker 5: then they came back with these little pendants and people
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  Speaker 5: have been searching for the pendants over since night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I was just one talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Washing Virginia conspiracies.
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  Speaker 2: I love Virginia.
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  Speaker 6: Was the Knights of the Golden Horseshoe, a real but
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  Speaker 6: largely symbolic group formed in seventeen sixteen by Governor Alexander
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  Speaker 6: Spotswood in Colonial Virginia.
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  Speaker 5: This is the initiation ceremony for all these different dudes.
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  Speaker 5: This is the start of, you know, reinvigorating the Knights
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  Speaker 5: Templar in America.
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  Speaker 6: I think because.
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  Speaker 5: Again Knights Templar are the horses Knights of the Golden Horseshoe.
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  Speaker 5: These are the distributed artifacts from that expedition.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds very templar, right, all right, yeah, but I think
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  Speaker 3: I think we'll wrap it up there though, if you
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: guys are right with it.
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  Speaker 2: Actually to plug it real quick too.
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  Speaker 3: If anybody's going to be in Arkansas, Uh yeah, Saturday
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: and Sunday, there's a paranormal expo there. It's at where
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: it's in a little rock, little rock oa console at
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: some museum, military museum, two floors, two days. Uh yeah,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: come check it out. The cult Rejix will have a bota.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: I'll be doing interviews and shit, I'll probably be recording
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: some of the speakers or whatever, doing interviews with them.
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  Speaker 2: Uh so, yeah, come check it out if you're in
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: the area.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: It's for two days and if you really want, and
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: I know I've said this before, it's worth ten dollars
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: in itself. Saturday, at two o'clock they will be grown
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: ups actually doing Bigfoot coals, So you can come down
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: and check that out for a good left and then
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: you can come and check me out and kick it
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: with me.
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  Speaker 2: I'll smoke one with you if you come. So, uh yeah,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: come on down if you're around. Uh yeah, And uh.
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  Speaker 3: That's enough out of me, and I will let everybody
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: start plugging their show and all that. But uh, Doc,
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  Speaker 3: thank you so much man for coming on. Like I said,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about this, Julia, I'm pretty sure
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: she was telling the truth when she said she didn't
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: know anything about it. Uh so yeah, I mean I
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  Speaker 3: think this was really interesting and I really liked it.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: I definitely think the viewers did too, Doc. Why don't
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: you let everybody know please where they can find your
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: amazing show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh thank you. Really, I appreciate the opportunity to come
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: out and talk, and I appreciate the panels and having
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: the back and forth, and even when we derail, I
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: enjoy it thoroughly. I smiled so much tonight my face.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I needed that. But if you guys enjoyed
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: that and these type of conversations, I'm doing them two
• 1:37:07
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• 1:37:10
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• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Just search up for metheus Lyn's podcasts once again the
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• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: epic of Esau, birth Right and Seed War, and hopefully
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Friday the audiobook will be available on Audible. So fingers crossed.
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  Speaker 3: But thank you awesome, Thank you so much, sir and Bennett.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: Let everybody know what's.
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  Speaker 6: Bennett from Broadcasting Seeds podcast. You can find me ever
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 6: podcasts or listen to YouTube Rumble the Whole Thing or
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: broadcasting seeds dot com.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks of course, thank you, sir. I appreciate you coming
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: on man and the Headless Joint.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: You know me, you know what if me, I'm that
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: liast giant and it's great to see you get Julia,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: Thank you for coming on.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: Awesome and last mine at least, Julia, please let everybody
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: know what's over you.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: If you haven't found me yet, you never will. And
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: I will say this, I'm picky about what podcast I
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: listened to. Obviously I listened to The Occult Rejects, but
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: one of my favorite shows is the Prometheus Lens podcast.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: I really love Yeah, I really love the topics you
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: choose to cover and you know your perspective on everything.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: I had no idea about this stuff. Tonight I learned
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: a lot. I think the listeners did too, Nick, thanks
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. Of course, yeah, I will say you, Doc.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: I'll have to admit you're one of the few podcasts
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: that will actually be be like a fuck, that was
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Damn I'm jealous, man, I was like, oh fuck, I
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: wish I could make reals like this. Dude. Nice you know,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: but yeah, definitely check out a show if people have it.
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  Speaker 3: Banger of a show. Thank you Wolf for coming on.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: I really had a great, great time tonight. It's a
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: really good last And again, I mean that was all
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: new to me, so I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Doc.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: It was awesome, and everybody in the chat that's what's up.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: It seemed like everybody was here comment and was here
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: from the beginning to the end. That is what's up.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: And I really appreciate it. And until the next one,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: everybody be well flatter