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Brutally Honest Interview of Elon Musk To The Economist Editor in Chief Zanny Minton Beddoes!!! · Elon Musk Thinking

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  Speaker 1: Latest interview of Elon Musk not just.
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  Speaker 2: The populist right, but the far right, in fact, very
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  Speaker 2: fringe parties in some countries.
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  Speaker 3: The normal people. What do you call the far right?
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  Speaker 1: Falseley, you think it's the normal person? Okay, yes, literally
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  Speaker 1: you could.
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  Speaker 3: You could go back ten or fifteen years and these
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  Speaker 3: these these policies were completely normal. In fact, you One
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  Speaker 3: of the things, one of the tricks I think it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's it's quite funny, is to like take
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  Speaker 3: a speech from Obama and Hillary and then and then
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  Speaker 3: go to someone and say, who's sort of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: on the sort of what I call the lunatic left,
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  Speaker 3: and say, what do you think of the speech by Trump? Like, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 3: he's the worst person ever. Actually that was a speech
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  Speaker 3: by Obama or actually that was a speech by Hillary.
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  Speaker 2: I No, I agree that the center of gravity in
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  Speaker 2: this country has shifted. Certainly the Democratic party shift is
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  Speaker 2: the left. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm
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  Speaker 2: talking about people like group of please people.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually just normal people. It's just normal people. It's
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  Speaker 3: just more people and the and here are the principles,
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  Speaker 3: and tell me which are these sound terrible? That we
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  Speaker 3: should have secure borders, that we should have safe cities,
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  Speaker 3: that we should have sensible spending. Which are those three?
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  Speaker 3: Are our far right fringe? And I would like to
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  Speaker 3: just admonish you and the media for the absurd characterization
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  Speaker 3: of the far right. It is false and misleading and nonsense.
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  Speaker 3: Please keep this part in.
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  Speaker 1: We'll keep all of this.
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  Speaker 3: Let me let me don't cut this part.
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  Speaker 1: Let me push back on that. Let me push back
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  Speaker 1: on that, because you have nonsense.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you have what is it close to two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million followers on x You say things
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  Speaker 2: like popular guy quote civil war in Britain is inevitable,
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  Speaker 2: just a question.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, when were you last in the UK.
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  Speaker 3: A few years ago?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly? So? So I live there. I'm there the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: That is new cloistered existence.
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  Speaker 2: I don't actually And the numbers also disprove what you say, well,
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  Speaker 2: all the numbers about crest that London is a much
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  Speaker 2: safer city than any city in the United States. Violent
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  Speaker 2: crime in the UK is not where you think it is.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, it's coming down you you have painted and
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  Speaker 2: because you have so many followers, so many Americans believe
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  Speaker 2: it a kind of view that Europe and the UK
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  Speaker 2: are kind of you know, overrun with terrifying Muslim immigrants.
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  Speaker 2: There's rape on every corner, there's a some civilizational destruction said.
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  Speaker 3: Any of those things. If you have a large and growing,
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  Speaker 3: rapidly growing group of people whose beliefs are antithetical to
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  Speaker 3: Western beliefs, at some point there will be a reckoning
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  Speaker 3: that they will they will try to implement their views,
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  Speaker 3: and those who oppose it will oppose it. And that's
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  Speaker 3: what you call the civil war. And obviously this is
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  Speaker 3: the trend. And uh and you're absolute live in a
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  Speaker 3: cloise that existence. And if you'd like, we can go
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  Speaker 3: on a tour of Britain.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, I've been very happy to come on a tour.
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  Speaker 3: Of Britain and then and you'll see you kind of see.
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  Speaker 1: My country that I live in all the time. And
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  Speaker 1: you haven't been to.
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  Speaker 2: A few years in there literally one hundred times, but
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  Speaker 2: when was the last time?
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  Speaker 3: Literally?
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  Speaker 2: You know why this exercises me because you have really
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  Speaker 2: shaped opinion about the UK. And so many Americans I
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  Speaker 2: come across and I have conversations with and they'll be
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  Speaker 2: and I just had one the other day along the
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  Speaker 2: order of oh London is such a dangerous place.
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  Speaker 1: How can you know that there are sort of.
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  Speaker 2: Grooming gangs everywhere there, there's violence everywhere. This is a
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  Speaker 2: picture that people get from things that you post or
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  Speaker 2: that are posted on x And for example, you're you're
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  Speaker 2: posting for what was it forty eight hours of Citizen Vigilante,
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  Speaker 2: that film, which you know paints are dystopian. I've watched it, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it was not fun. I watched it yesterday. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a very good movie. But it's also paints a dystopian
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  Speaker 2: picture of Europe, and it glorifies vigilante violence. It glorifies
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  Speaker 2: the murdering of a Muslim immigrant family. I honestly think
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  Speaker 2: that it is irresponsible for you to put that up
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  Speaker 2: on x.
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  Speaker 3: I think that it's it's a movie and it's worth watching.
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  Speaker 1: People say that you're a racist? What is the motivation
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  Speaker 1: for doing honors?
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  Speaker 3: Is she's half Indian and my and I have four
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  Speaker 3: children with her. You know, one of them was named
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  Speaker 3: after a famous Indian physicist, so I would say I'm
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  Speaker 3: not racist. And also the you know, if you look
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  Speaker 3: at the people that are employed at my companies, you
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  Speaker 3: know were senior executives of all races that there's there's
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any racism there. You anti Muslim,
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  Speaker 3: I am, I'm I'm against having if if if people
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  Speaker 3: are coming to a country with antithetical views, I am
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  Speaker 3: against that. I'm against that, you know. I'm against I'm
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  Speaker 3: against rape and murder. I'm against the imposition of rules
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  Speaker 3: and laws that are contrary to what we've come to
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  Speaker 3: accept in the West. And I think it's a crying
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  Speaker 3: shame that the sort of traditional media like you don't
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  Speaker 3: recognize this.
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  Speaker 2: Why should you be able to shape European politicisn't you
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  Speaker 2: don't even live there.
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  Speaker 3: I think of it as the sort of the West collectively.
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  Speaker 2: But do you see why this makes people think that
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  Speaker 2: this man who has all his power, he's the world's
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  Speaker 2: richest man, he thinks he has a right to influence
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  Speaker 2: our politics. It makes people It's why you know, we
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  Speaker 2: started this conversation saying superlatives.
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  Speaker 1: It's why people loathe you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean some people do loath you, Yes, some people do.
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  Speaker 3: But do you.
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  Speaker 2: Understand why do you think what you're doing is helpful
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  Speaker 2: for Western villa?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe some people do loath me, and that's and
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  Speaker 3: that's probably true. I don't care the uh but but
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  Speaker 3: the fact that, as you pointed out, a quarter billion
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  Speaker 3: people follow me is that I think a lot more
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  Speaker 3: people actually like me than don't. And I think a
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  Speaker 3: lot more people hate you and the media more than
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  Speaker 3: you realize.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, See you in the next episode.