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- 0:44I formed the club and then I set about getting the boat.
- 0:47Thames racing skiffs are very hard to get hold of.
- 0:51They're a specific specification and very, very expensive to make.
- 0:56The original boats are made out of mahogany.
- 0:59Rainforest mahogany.
- 1:01You can't just get hold of it anymore.
- 1:03That's John Graham, founder and chairman of Sunbury Skiff and Punting Club.
- 1:07I met him back in April on a warm Friday afternoon.
- 1:10A few hours into their 24 hour skiffathon.
- 1:14Two boats rowing laps around Desborough Island.
- 1:16Through the daytime, through the dark, through the small hours.
- 1:19Quite a challenge.
- 1:21Welcome to the Sheppartonian.
- 1:22I'm Gareth and this is the podcast bringing you stories, voices and events from in and around Shepparton.
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- 2:19I sat down with John to find out more.
- 2:22First things first though, what actually is skiffing?
- 2:25Skiffing basically is the Victorian art of rowing.
- 2:30I always liken it to what you have in Formula 1 now.
- 2:34Racing cars were originally sausage on sticks.
- 2:38And in the rowing world where they have carbon fibre boats, we still row the equivalent of a clinker built wooden boat.
- 2:46The same thing as Jerome Jerome, three men in a boat.
- 2:49The same thing as Victorians when they had ferries across London.
- 2:55Basically you've got the taxis and that's what people used to row in.
- 3:01So it's a fixed seat boat and it has foals rather than Rolex, which is a square working two pieces of wood with a bit of leather that goes through and it's quite complicated to master.
- 3:18Once you can skiff, you can more or less do any type of rowing.
- 3:22And it's part of a wider family of traditional Rowing boats.
- 3:25There's a lot of other traditional boats that people row.
- 3:28You might have heard of gigs, pilot gigs, cutters, etc.
- 3:33And how do they differ?
- 3:34So a Thames skiff is a certain length.
- 3:38It's usually a double.
- 3:40So two people rowing, one person cocks in.
- 3:43Okay.
- 3:44Gigs are usually made higher because they're for sea and they'll probably have rowers that have one or each that are offset down the boat.
- 3:55And those boats were originally made for bringing the fish off the trawlers or bringing the crew from bigger boats to the shore.
- 4:06So that's all the different types you have of boats.
- 4:09You have whalers, which are self explanatory and you have all the way down to a coracle.
- 4:15John didn't just join a club, he built one from nothing on a stretch of the Thames that didn't have one.
- 4:21I've born and bred some beyond Thames and four generations my family been around the water, went to school in Shepparton where we are now.
- 4:34And there's no rowing club around here, there's private rowing clubs.
- 4:38There was no club for the public.
- 4:41And I was brought up enjoying the river.
- 4:44It's given me a tremendous amount in life, really has.
- 4:48And I was down at a wonderful club in Thames Ditton.
- 4:52I used to be involved in, still am involved very much with Sunbury Vergatta.
- 4:57All the pubs, local shops, businesses used to come out for one day a year, do some rowing and some would like to stay on.
- 5:07And I'd feed those people to the clubs in Wharton or in Thamesdet and Kingston because there was no club for them here in Sunbury.
- 5:17The idea stayed with him until one day he just did it.
- 5:20So it was forever niggling away at me.
- 5:23And I achieved a great deal at Thames Ditton and I took the plunge one day, decided to leave Sunbury Regatta.
- 5:31I just happened to have some good people who wanted to join a club and I thought, no more.
- 5:36They shall join Sunbury Skiff and Punting Club.
- 5:40So yeah, I formed the club.
- 5:43There was just one problem, a club with no boats.
- 5:47Thames racing skiffs are very hard to get hold of.
- 5:50They're a specific specification and very, very expensive to make.
- 5:56The original boats are made out of mahogany, rainforest mahogany.
- 6:00You can't just get hold of it anymore.
- 6:03They now make them out of beach.
- 6:06So I set about putting an event on in Sunbury and all the clubs came and raced and some Sunbury people came and said, why are there no Sunbury crews?
- 6:17I said, I don't have a boat.
- 6:19So at the time I'd started the club and I was the chairman, I refused to call myself a captain of a club that didn't have any boats.
- 6:27Then over a meal one evening, everything changed.
- 6:30I went out for a Chinese that night and a lady I know, I used to teach her daughter to row.
- 6:36Somebody Junior Igata said I was going to buy a bench for my late husband put on the side of King's Lawn.
- 6:45I'd rather buy you a boat.
- 6:46So I said, well, they're very hard to get hold of.
- 6:48I know of one that's for sale.
- 6:50It's been for sale for a couple of years because no one else has started a skiff club.
- 6:54It's a privately owned boat.
- 6:56They want 8,000 for it.
- 6:58I've been offering 5,000 for it for the last three years.
- 7:02And she said, come around Monday, give you the money.
- 7:05So I rung up the boat broker and said, look, you know, I've been offering you 5,000 for this boat for the last three years.
- 7:11They said, yes, John.
- 7:12I said, well, I never had the money, but I can tell you, you know, I've started the club.
- 7:18Five grand sitting on my coffee table.
- 7:20Please tell the owner no one else is going to be crazy enough to start a skiff club.
- 7:24They all started in the 1920s.
- 7:27I think the last one was started the 1980s.
- 7:30Anyway, the deal was done and next week we got our first boat.
- 7:36That first boat was going to be called Heart of Sunbury.
- 7:38The donor had other ideas.
- 7:40The lady donated it, said, do you mind if we change the name?
- 7:44Change it to anything you want.
- 7:46So that became Spirit of Sunbury.
- 7:49We now have Heart of Sunbury, Soul of Sunbury, and we now have a fleet of 10 boats.
- 7:56We now have a shed that they're all housed in and have about 40 active members.
- 8:02We've moved from Sunbury to Shepparton and the club is doing very well for itself.
- 9:23I asked John who actually comes through the door.
- 9:26So I'd say a lot of our members are people who've got bored going down the gym.
- 9:33A lot of them, the kids are grown up, they're looking for something to do.
- 9:37Some people just see us out in the boats and contact us from the website or they see a regatta on, or they've been turned away from a rowing club because a rowing club is very full on.
- 9:50So those that sort of in our encatchment area is people who always wanted to have a go at rowing and they're the kind of people we get.
- 10:00Getting a home for those 10 boats.
- 10:02Has been its own story.
- 10:03It started with the second boat.
- 10:05It was on a scrap heap for £100.
- 10:08Someone donated a large amount of money to have that boat rebuilt.
- 10:12A regatta played the rest.
- 10:14It was really heartwarming because didn't have any money for these boats and all of a sudden I had two that people believed in my dream, you know, they wanted to see this side of the river have its own
- 10:25boat club.
- 10:25So a lot of people bought into the story, which I'm very passionate about still.
- 10:30But the location they started in wasn't sustainable.
- 10:33We originally were renting some land off the landlord, between the swimming club and the sailing club.
- 10:40We couldn't survive there.
- 10:41We just had a pontoon.
- 10:43The boats were getting battered by the elements, the wind, they'd been damaged quite a bit.
- 10:48It was very dark and gloomy over there.
- 10:50Desborough Sailing Club stepped in.
- 10:52The sailing club took pity on us and invited us to come and join them.
- 10:57And a bit of negotiating went on.
- 10:59They gave us a bit of land, a bit of lease, and first of all, we had to get red tape of getting the planning permission.
- 11:08Not only is this floodplain, it's greenbelt, it's also a place of natural beauty and if you look around, you can see why.
- 11:17So we were quite restricted for the building we built, but we got the planning in.
- 11:22Council were very keen for us to have a rowing club here as well.
- 11:26So we set about fundraising.
- 11:28Which brings us to today, the fundraiser that started it all and one they've now run for three years.
- 11:35Today we are doing what started some of the fundraising, which is we are doing a 24 hour row.
- 11:40We've got one of our skiffs outside where we've got two of them.
- 11:45They're going round Desborough island and back to the clubhouse and then the other one goes and they're rolling 24 hours constantly, you know, through the dark, which is great time.
- 11:55Three in the morning, beautiful time to be out there.
- 11:58And that raised a load of money.
- 12:01And we've done that for three years to the point that this year we've actually halving the money for a local charity.
- 12:09That charity is Cruise Bereavement Care.
- 12:11A name listeners might recognise from an earlier episode of this podcast link is in the show notes.
- 12:17I asked what a night shift on the Thames actually looks like.
- 12:20It's beautiful out there.
- 12:21There's less water, traffic, you've got the moon, full moon out there.
- 12:25It's unbelievable.
- 12:27So by then, you guide yourself a little bit.
- 12:29There's always a bit of shadowing from the trees.
- 12:32The wildlife is still there.
- 12:34Yeah, it is a bit eerie, but it's a beautiful time to be out on the water.
- 12:39It really is.
- 12:40You feel quite privileged.
- 12:42You know, no one else is out there tonight at 3am there won't be any.
- 12:46Well, anyone between midnight and 5am and we've done Summer Solstice, where we go out and watch the sun come up.
- 12:55It's pretty cool.
- 12:56No engines, no noise.
- 12:59Just wooden boats moving quietly through the water.
- 13:02You're moving through the water in these really traditional old wooden boats that are gleaming in varnish and, you know, they've got real characters, all the different boats and no noise.
- 13:14Yeah, just.
- 13:15It's a great time to perfect your technique because you can hear the clanking.
- 13:19Beyond the skiffathon, the club has a proper racing calendar and one event that's become a tradition of its own.
- 13:26So we, as a club, we do a Thames meander, which is we take all our boats up to Lechlade, we stay the night there and then in the morning, we slip them in at Lechlade Bridge.
- 13:39You have to pass under Lechlade Bridge, that's the official start of the Thames.
- 13:43And we take four days to meander down through 44 locks, stopping off at pubs along the way.
- 13:53We used to sleep on cricket club floors, but we do hotels now.
- 13:59It's not a competitive event.
- 14:00We try and bring all our new members to come along and it's a great time for new people mixing with experienced people.
- 14:08They learn, you know, 44 locks.
- 14:11You're going to learn a lot about the weirs, the locks.
- 14:14There's kingfishers all the way down and it's.
- 14:18It's grueling, but it's very rewarding.
- 14:20If any of this has caught your interest, the way in is simple.
- 14:24They can just reach out to us via website contact information.
- 14:28You're allowed free taster sessions, so you can come down three times and see if you, you know, can adapt, enjoy the boat.
- 14:37I mean, it's not easy.
- 14:38We say it takes about six times to learn to skiff properly.
- 14:44But people, you know, who want to do it, you can see they get hooked.
- 14:48There is a whole race circuit.
- 14:50There's lots of different things.
- 14:51We do the great river race, the meander.
- 14:54We go abroad sometimes.
- 14:57There's a good social fitness side of it.
- 15:01So they'll basically come down, they'll get a coach, we'll take them out three times, about an hour each session, and they'll go through the techniques and, yeah, they make A decision whether they'd like to join and come down
- 15:16to this tranquil, beautiful bit of the Thames.
- 15:18The membership runs from tax year April 5, so it's £275 for a year.
- 15:26That gets you the use of all our skiffs.
- 15:29You know, they're very expensive boats.
- 15:31You get the use of hold of the clubhouse, includes the showers, parking.
- 15:36I mean, that's less than the gym, isn't it?
- 15:38I think it's 75p a day or something, you know, and the experience you get, all the coaching and everything's free.
- 15:46You only have to.
- 15:47Most people say they're joining just for pleasure after B.
- 15:52So how much is a race top?
- 15:54Because they want to come and race for us as well, you know, and we have social evenings on the summer bars, open cycle down, get the barbecue going.
- 16:05So, yeah, 275.
- 16:07And then I think your partner only joins for a third of that.
- 16:10So I think, yeah, it's only another 100 pound for your partner to join.
- 16:15So compared to a gym golf club, the outlay is very minimal for what you get.
- 16:23That was John Graham, founder and chairman of Sunbury Skiff and Punting Club.
- 16:2710 boats, 40 members, a boat shed built bit by bit, and a fundraiser that kept skiffers on the Thames for 24 straight hours.
- 16:35This year's Skiffathon money is being split with cruise bereavement care.
- 16:39If you'd like to try skiffing taster sessions are free.
- 16:42Head to their website to get in touch.
- 16:44That link is in the show notes and if you're part of a community group and want us to cover your event, get in touch.
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- 17:11I'm Gareth, this has been the Sheppartonian and until next time.
- 17:15I'll see you around, Sam.