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INTERVIEW: Vybz Kartel On Cultural Influence, Lessons From Prison, Meeting His Fiancé, Kings Of Dancehall + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning.
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Speaker 3: Everybody is j n V jess hilarious, charlamage, the guy.
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Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. You got a special guest
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Speaker 3: in the building, indeed, the legendary Vibes Cartel. Welcome brother,
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Speaker 3: what's up?
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Speaker 1: Hello?
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Speaker 3: How you feeling? Man?
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Speaker 1: I feel like a million dollars right now?
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 4: Every time I walked through the airport the last two weeks,
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Speaker 4: everybody there, all the Caribbean people. You got to have
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Speaker 4: vibes on the Breakfast Club vibes going to be in
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Speaker 4: Brooklyn on April eleven, if you gotta have them on
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Speaker 4: the Breakfast on the building.
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Speaker 3: All through the streets they knew you were coming, so
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Speaker 3: first and foremost. How does it feel to be back
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Speaker 3: here and being able to perform? How does that feel?
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Speaker 3: What is that feeling like?
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a blessing, you know, and it's a
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Speaker 1: feeling of accomplishment because you know what I mean this
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Speaker 1: is these are the things that we have worked for
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Speaker 1: over the years. So to be here now and see
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Speaker 1: it actualize itself. Yeah, it feels like an accomplished you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Feeling?
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Speaker 3: Yes, you sold out two shows at the ballplay immediately.
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Speaker 3: Did you ever did you think it would be like
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Speaker 3: that with like takeing places are like seven thousand for seats,
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Speaker 3: Like yeah.
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Speaker 1: Of course. Like I said, I put the work in
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Speaker 1: what I mean, So everything is happening to me. I
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Speaker 1: deserve it. Man, God is the greatest, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. We work hard over the years. We built
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Speaker 1: a huge catalog, so you know what I mean. The
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Speaker 1: music speaks for itself as it relates to Dan Saul
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Speaker 1: and for me to represent the culture. So that was
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Speaker 1: no surprise. Man, my manager wanted to do a third night.
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm forty nine, I'm not that you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. I know by remember coming from prison,
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Speaker 1: I'm sick, you know what I mean. So that's why
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Speaker 1: that makes it more of a blessing, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean to know that, you know, I mean coming
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Speaker 1: from prison thirteen years, still battling with my illness and
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Speaker 1: the love that the people show me. Man, if it's
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Speaker 1: not God, I don't know who it is.
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Speaker 4: You know, nobody wants to go to prison, but it
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Speaker 4: feels like prison made you larger than life. Like just
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Speaker 4: from a career, I agree with you. From a career perspective.
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Speaker 4: Do you think it preserved your legacy.
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Speaker 2: It made it bigger?
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Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, yeah, I think so. I think it did.
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Speaker 1: But like I said, everything happens for a purpose, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And if God has a plan
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Speaker 1: for you, he has a plan for you if did
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Speaker 1: us work with it.
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Speaker 3: So I look at it the opposite way though, because
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Speaker 3: I feel like people heard the music but couldn't see
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Speaker 3: the face. Like I felt like you would have been
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Speaker 3: an even bigger artist because they just couldn't touch you.
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Speaker 1: Or if I was free, maybe I would have died
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Speaker 1: who knows, in a car accident or something. So you
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Speaker 1: got to just focus on what is right, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's how I live my life.
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Speaker 1: Like it is what it is. I'm here. I did
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Speaker 1: thirteen years, but now I'm here and that's in my
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Speaker 1: rear view.
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Speaker 5: During your time in prison, though you released a lot
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Speaker 5: of music, How was that managing your career even behind bars?
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Speaker 6: Like being in.
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Speaker 1: There, I mean, like I said, I had to do it.
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Speaker 1: That was too easy, man, Like I always try to
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Speaker 1: find innovative ways to do what I do, and that
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Speaker 1: was just one of them. Like I had to do it.
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Speaker 1: People depending on me. I had a family to feed,
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Speaker 1: I had my career to maintain, so that's too easy.
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Speaker 5: And even at we're being sick though that were there
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Speaker 5: are times where you just like, man, fuck this.
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Speaker 1: No, I couldn't do that. Like I said, I have
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Speaker 1: people depending on me, Like I couldn't slack off, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Envy, you know you got kids,
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Speaker 1: You got kids, You can't slack off, man. So for me,
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Speaker 1: it was yeah, and my children are a big part
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Speaker 1: of my motivation, to my mother as well, and I
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Speaker 1: mean just family in general, so I couldn't. I didn't
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Speaker 1: have time for self pity or to be like, oh no.
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Speaker 6: But you were really sick though I was.
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Speaker 5: I guess I'm saying like, how did you fight, Like
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Speaker 5: just having a strength to fight through that and still
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Speaker 5: make music in all of that and keep your mental
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Speaker 5: where it needed to be to really commit to that
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Speaker 5: music so you can still be the ViBe's cartel and
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Speaker 5: deliver where people wanted to hear.
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Speaker 1: And now I understand that's a good question too, because
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Speaker 1: in Jamaican prison, it's not like American prison. Jamaican prison
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Speaker 1: is real dungeon style, you know what I mean. No
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Speaker 1: toilets in the cells and crazy work, you know tole No,
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Speaker 1: you know how I got toilet in myself? When uh
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Speaker 1: Lisa Evers did that piece? Is it the special Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's when they put the toilet, installed the toilet in
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Speaker 1: What's Crazy Ship? Did you unintended?
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Speaker 2: So what they had you using before?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: So you can read, but.
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Speaker 3: I got you know, you put out so much music.
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Speaker 3: People assumed that you had a studio in prison because
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Speaker 3: it just the music didn't sound old. They always sound new.
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Speaker 3: It always sounds fresh. I mean, somebody passed away and
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Speaker 3: you be talking about him in the song. I'm just joking,
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Speaker 3: but you had something. Did you have a studio?
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Speaker 1: That's no, I had a phone, the iPhone five s
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Speaker 1: that's the that's recorded like the Fever album, Nod, the
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Speaker 1: Viking album Yes I Keep You Not? Yeah, Man, five
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Speaker 1: as and a mattress and some prisoners looking out. That
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Speaker 1: was it. That was it, Man and Determination and God themself. Wow,
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Speaker 1: So that's it. Yeah, Yeah, it's crazy work.
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Speaker 4: Was there ever any time in that thirteen years, especially
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Speaker 4: when you started getting sick, that you was like.
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Speaker 2: Man, I don't know, I'm gonna make it out of here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, there were times I thought that I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: make it, but like I still had to put into work.
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Speaker 1: I still have to do what I had to do,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it is what it is,
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Speaker 1: man Like if I die, at least I die trying.
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Speaker 1: I mean, because that's that's just my mindset, you know.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, there were times I was like I even
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Speaker 1: talked to my mother. I was like, Mom, she was like, no,
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Speaker 1: fight it, man, pray. So yeah, big up to my mother.
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Speaker 1: She's a blessing in my life as well.
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Speaker 3: And how did you How did you finally get out?
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Speaker 3: Because they were fighting to keep you in for a
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Speaker 3: long time.
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Speaker 2: They weren't.
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Speaker 3: They were fighting appeals, anything that you tried. They were
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Speaker 3: fighting what was the one thing that says? What was
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Speaker 3: that turn?
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're right they wanted to keep me there forever.
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Speaker 1: But I mean I sent when the case went to England,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because the thing is Jamaica,
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to There's a lot of people
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Speaker 1: in the system in Jamaica that support me as well,
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Speaker 1: but the system really just I think they wanted to
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Speaker 1: make an example, you know what I mean, out of
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Speaker 1: me because the case is clear card. Like I've always
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Speaker 1: told my manager and my family. Bro, I'm coming out
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Speaker 1: once my case reaches England. I'm out and so said,
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Speaker 1: so done because it's an open short case. You messed
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Speaker 1: up here, You messed up here. This is wrong, This
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Speaker 1: is wrong. Freedom man.
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Speaker 3: Have they've apologized or said my bad, sorry anything.
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Speaker 1: I don't need apologies, sir, freedom to best the pology
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Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So I'm good man. I'm not looking back.
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Speaker 1: I'm not even suing. Hm hmm, yeah, no, I'm not that.
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Speaker 1: I'm not even pursuing. So no suing like that.
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Speaker 2: Why do you think they wanted to make an example
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Speaker 2: of you.
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Speaker 1: Because of my influence? You know what I mean? People
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Speaker 1: compare Cartel to Bob Marley and then people say, but
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Speaker 1: Bob Marley and Carr Hell do two different types of songs. Yes,
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Speaker 1: but the influence is the same. That's why you got shot.
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Speaker 1: That's why you have to leave your make at one point.
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Speaker 1: So that is you know, you know, the Caribbean country
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Speaker 1: to a third world country. It's a political charge atmosphere,
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Speaker 1: so influential people that they can't control is dangerous. So
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But we're here still, man.
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Speaker 4: But you know the worst thing you can give a
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Speaker 4: person like that is time because now you're sitting there
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Speaker 4: and you being still and you really hearing God and
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Speaker 4: hearing what your purpose is exactly.
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Speaker 1: Man, I prayed so much, man, like nobody can tell
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Speaker 1: me nothing, Charlotte. Man, don't come at me with no aism,
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Speaker 1: no rubbish, like that God is real and I'm living
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Speaker 1: testimony of that, man, trust me. So I feel blessed
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Speaker 1: every day.
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Speaker 6: How how is your health now?
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Speaker 1: Work in progress? Yeah, definitely a work in progress. But
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Speaker 1: it was worse when I came out. My head was
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Speaker 1: this big a Pillsbury door. Boy, it's crazy, man, But
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Speaker 1: you were okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Can you describe the moment you were released? Like what
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Speaker 2: that emotion was.
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Speaker 1: I'm still prossing, I swear to you, man, because there
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Speaker 1: were times like I never lost faith. But when I
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Speaker 1: when they actually opened the gate, I was the last
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Speaker 1: one out of myself. I was just like, it's really
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Speaker 1: is am I dreaming right now? Like what the hell
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Speaker 1: is this? Had on my clothes on the full white
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Speaker 1: that you see me walk out, I didn't put my
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Speaker 1: shoes on it, and I just said a little prior
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Speaker 1: and I just walked out. Man. When I was walking
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Speaker 1: in the yard and all the prisoners were shaking the doors,
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Speaker 1: and it was it was like an earthquake, man, And
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I shed a tear or two
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Speaker 1: y yeah, tears of joy, yeah yeah, And then I
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Speaker 1: just walked through the gate. But throughout my incarceration, I
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Speaker 1: never cried. I never felt sorry for myself. You know,
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Speaker 1: I just know that this is something that I have
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Speaker 1: to get through by the grace of God. Man, God, did.
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Speaker 2: What did God tell you to do?
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Speaker 1: No, it's not tell you to do like, but when
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Speaker 1: you pray, you listen to that voice in her head,
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Speaker 1: in her heart, humble yourself.
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Speaker 2: Chill mm hmm.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I actually stopped smoking to man,
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Speaker 1: was like, like, I just listened to that divine voice
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Speaker 1: in my head, in my heart, and it just led
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Speaker 1: me to write to the right place. And I mean
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Speaker 1: I made a pact, a covenant with God in prison. Lord,
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Speaker 1: if you get me out of this, trust me. I
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Speaker 1: will never stop calling your name. I'll never stop being positive,
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Speaker 1: I never start spreading that message of love and happiness
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Speaker 1: and joy. And I'm doing that right now. And I
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Speaker 1: won't stop what I mean no till my last bread man, trust.
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Speaker 3: What was the first thing you did when you got out?
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Speaker 3: Because I remember when.
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Speaker 2: You got.
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Speaker 3: People were waiting for you to announce a show, like
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Speaker 3: everybody wanted to show one the music, but it took
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Speaker 3: you some time for that. So what were you doing,
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Speaker 3: poor girl?
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Speaker 2: Exactly?
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Speaker 1: Well, I was in prison for years, sir, stop it
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Speaker 1: come on. But yeah, man, I was just chilling with family. Mostly,
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Speaker 1: like I said, my mother, my father, my kids, my grandchildren.
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Speaker 1: When I came out of prison, I had treat grandkids.
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Speaker 1: But when I was going in, I had babies, So
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, thirteen years is a long time.
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Speaker 1: Trust me. For me right now, it was just God, family, music.
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Speaker 3: Who was your biggest allies when you were locked up?
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Speaker 3: Celebrity wise? I know, oh Buster Buster He always.
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Speaker 1: Said, easily spice, easily popcorn. You know what I mean
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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't she easily boom. I don't
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Speaker 1: even have to think my brother slash manager TJ. You
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? I Shanna, She came to visit
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Speaker 1: me several times because a lot of people are scared.
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Speaker 1: So it wasn't that they didn't want to come, but
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Speaker 1: just the stigma bsociated with Yeah. Yeah, So like spice,
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Speaker 1: I Sean and popcorn bust a rhyme. I gotta give
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Speaker 1: it a shout out to them, man, give them props.
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Speaker 6: And relationships are tough, you know in general.
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Speaker 5: But what do you think major relationship with your fiance
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Speaker 5: work while serving a life sentence.
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Speaker 1: Because she believed, I mean she believed. I met her
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Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, July twenty fifth, never forget. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean we've been on and off. You know, I go,
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Speaker 1: she's in the free world. I'm in prison. She lived
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Speaker 1: in her life still whatever blah blah blah, but she
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Speaker 1: was always there. So in twenty twenty two, I decided,
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Speaker 1: like yo, Like I said, I started being more spiritual
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Speaker 1: with my faith in God. And I told her, I'm
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Speaker 1: like yo, I'm coming out, come to Jamaica. And she came.
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Speaker 1: She left everything to Jamaica.
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Speaker 2: Who was she? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: She was She's from London, oky oyoga. Yeah you bet
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Speaker 4: her on Instagram? I heard that, yes, sir, Wow, Wow,
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Speaker 4: that was crazy.
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Speaker 2: How could you trust that?
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Speaker 1: Though? They could have been catfish, I know, but like
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Speaker 1: I said, it was years at twenty fifteen. Yeah, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I was talking and every
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Speaker 1: now and then we spoke and we started speaking on
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Speaker 1: a regular basis, and yeah, so it took a while
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Speaker 1: for me to trust her. She actually came to Jamaica
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Speaker 1: the first time in twenty ninety. That's four years after
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Speaker 1: we were talking, just on the phone talking, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, I.
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Speaker 7: Think, Okay, all right, we got it.
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Speaker 3: She came in twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 6: You actually got to put the face to the end.
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Speaker 6: And she looked exactly like the pictures.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she looked exactly before AI. So she couldn't okay,
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Speaker 1: but she came to visit me, and you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a vibe twenty two. I was like,
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Speaker 1: you know, coming come to Jamaica, come live. She was like,
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Speaker 1: oh you sure, she's British and I'm like, yes, come
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Speaker 1: and she came, and she did two years before where
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Speaker 1: I came out. So she came to visit me. Every
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Speaker 1: time there was a visit. If I was in a
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Speaker 1: bad mood sometime and I'd be like, yo, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to see nobody, she'd cry, or she would come
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Speaker 1: to the prison still and the guards would be like, hey,
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Speaker 1: Yeahance is outside, and I'm like, okay, I'll go, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, yeah, she's been there.
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Speaker 2: How did you know she was the one?
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Speaker 1: Though?
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Speaker 4: Because you the world boss, you didn't been all around
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Speaker 4: you know she.
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Speaker 1: Was the one, you know. I mean, she's different. She
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Speaker 1: she don't into that hype stuff, you know, chill. Nothing
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Speaker 1: is wrong with the girls that are in the hype either.
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Speaker 1: You don't mean the school. But she's very humble, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So even now when I come out,
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Speaker 1: I have to beg her to go shopping, you know,
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Speaker 1: buy some clothes, man, some were's something Louis do something,
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Speaker 1: I mean, And she when she goes shopping, she buys
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Speaker 1: stuff for me. Crazy Yeah, yeah, man, you I can't
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Speaker 1: sit down?
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Speaker 2: Is it easy for you to resist the temptation though?
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Speaker 4: By being at you back on the road and you
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Speaker 4: out in the streets, I know the women coming after you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not gonna lie. I flirt with the
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Speaker 1: gladies five sky tell come on, man, nobody can't get
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Speaker 1: get out to them. Only she can get out herself
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Speaker 1: by messing up. But no girl on the planet can't
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Speaker 1: get her out of my life, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So she good now the late nineties in early
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Speaker 3: two thousands, dance hall was was crazy seems like it
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Speaker 3: slowed down a lot. Why do you think that is?
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Speaker 1: Because I was in prison, sir, But now I'm out
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Speaker 1: and we're doing stuff. But you know what, I don't
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it slowed down. I would say that
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Speaker 1: the concept changed, the lyrics changed to an extent beat change,
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Speaker 1: and it just kind of went that way. And then
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Speaker 1: you know, afrobeat came out, the emergence of like reggae,
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Speaker 1: tonk became watch, you know what I mean. So I
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Speaker 1: think there are a lot of factors that contributed the
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Speaker 1: dance soul going through that lull. Yeah, but yeah, we're
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Speaker 1: back again, man, we're doing stuff. And I think this
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Speaker 1: new generation of artists I like them.
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Speaker 2: Man, what do you like? What? What?
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Speaker 1: Well? Jamal dun Sman like Pablo hite G, I mean,
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Speaker 1: chronic loss KILLI bangs, you know what I mean? And
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Speaker 1: you know Popcorn is like he's the king of that
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Speaker 1: little generation. So yeah, to me, they're doing stuff once
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Speaker 1: they learn to find you in their music, make it
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Speaker 1: more commercial, more palatable to guys like you and you
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Speaker 1: know the America North American market place. They're good. They're
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Speaker 1: they're good. You know what?
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Speaker 5: Because I agree with that because Spice is dance all
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Speaker 5: to me.
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Speaker 6: That's why I listened to. Spice is the one man
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Speaker 6: she is.
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Speaker 1: And you know this how she puts her stuff together
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Speaker 1: like Americans like it. You like it the vibe. Once
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Speaker 1: they cracked that cold, they're good. Man.
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Speaker 2: What makes a person king of the dance hall?
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Speaker 4: Because that's what they say, they call vibes called king
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Speaker 4: of the dance Who qualify a person for that title?
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Speaker 1: You're dominant, your influence. It's not necessarily selling records because
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Speaker 1: I haven't sold records like Sean Paul. But if I
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Speaker 1: want through the streets of Jamaica and Sean Paul is
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Speaker 1: on the other side of the rod, he will go unnoticed.
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Speaker 1: I mean no disrespect as the influence that that larger
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Speaker 1: than life five that we bring. If I say, oh, Clarks,
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Speaker 1: everybody were a cloud put on a tattooe. Everybody gets
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Speaker 1: that to you know what I mean, the dominance. And
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Speaker 1: I've been doing that since before I got arrested. I've
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Speaker 1: been people then calling me the king of dancer. But
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I said, kings come,
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Speaker 1: kings go, Presidents come, presidents go. Nothing is forever accept salvation.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'm not really fighting for the crown
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Speaker 1: because the people gave it.
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Speaker 2: Can it be more than one king? More people love
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Speaker 2: to say Beanie Man too.
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Speaker 1: Of course it can be more than one king. Not
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Speaker 1: in our genre one, No, But that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Remember who was the king? Who was the king in
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Speaker 1: nineteen forty five? King George or something that nigga dead
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Speaker 1: and more kings come along. It's just life, That's what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can't hold on to it forever. You
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Speaker 1: can't gate keep the crown. It's not yours to get.
17:06
Speaker 1: It was never yours to gate keep. You do your time,
17:09
Speaker 1: you move on. The new king is in town, sir,
17:11
Speaker 1: thank you.
17:13
Speaker 3: Now, when you were locked up, verses was big, right, yeah?
17:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, and be any bond to Versus is my favorite.
17:20
Speaker 1: That's my favorite. I was in prison watching that, Like.
17:23
Speaker 3: Now, when you were watching that? Do you think I
17:25
Speaker 3: would love to do a versus? Because yeah, it's a
17:27
Speaker 3: very competitive and if you could, who would you want.
17:32
Speaker 1: To do on? Obviously come on obviously man, Yeah, big
17:37
Speaker 1: Upada too, man, But yeah, that would be a crazy versus.
17:40
Speaker 1: Obviously I would win, but he would.
17:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody catalog you were afraid of a little bit.
17:50
Speaker 1: Uh got a big catalog, Yeah, no, not being there
17:56
Speaker 1: a bounty killer, those guys, those those are in a
17:58
Speaker 1: different class. Remember you know what I mean, A bound
18:00
Speaker 1: to killer being there a lot in the nineties to
18:02
Speaker 1: the early two thousands, and Cartail came out Elephant Man
18:05
Speaker 1: as a nice catalog. It's not like a warrior artist. Yeah,
18:09
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
18:10
Speaker 2: What's a warrior artists?
18:11
Speaker 1: That? A car tell killer? I mean a massacre ready
18:16
Speaker 1: to go at it right now? Yeah? So but no, no, no,
18:20
Speaker 1: I think I have the biggest current catalog in dance
18:23
Speaker 1: tall because it's relatively young's twenty three years. Yeah, you
18:27
Speaker 1: know what I mean, lots of hits, especially in the
18:29
Speaker 1: dance tall landscape. You know what I mean?
18:31
Speaker 3: Is that missing in music though, like the fact that
18:34
Speaker 3: you would you know, me coming up in queens and
18:36
Speaker 3: DJing parties. I would come up and then if somebody,
18:39
Speaker 3: let's say you were in the club or baby Sham's
18:40
Speaker 3: in the club, but if they would just grab and
18:42
Speaker 3: go at each other, yes, it wouldn't be physical, no,
18:45
Speaker 3: it would be music. Yeah, that's what's missing in dance
18:48
Speaker 3: hall especially.
18:49
Speaker 1: I think so too. And one of the reasons why
18:51
Speaker 1: I think so too is because of the Internet. So
18:53
Speaker 1: a lot of these young kids, they got their fame
18:56
Speaker 1: from their bedroom. They made their ridden in their bedroom,
18:59
Speaker 1: recording did it in there, They're their YouTube channel, put
19:02
Speaker 1: it out. They can monitor this their ship on iTunes, whatever,
19:06
Speaker 1: So they're not we on the other hand, we had
19:08
Speaker 1: to go in the streets. We have to go to
19:10
Speaker 1: the studio. And I'm saying it was a more physical
19:13
Speaker 1: thing for us, you know what I mean, in the
19:15
Speaker 1: same way I remember back in the day when records
19:17
Speaker 1: came out, you have to go to the record store.
19:19
Speaker 1: Now you can just take up your phone and be
19:20
Speaker 1: like yo, stream and stream. So that's why I think
19:23
Speaker 1: they don't have that. They don't have the knock for
19:26
Speaker 1: physical confrontation like we did. And by physical, I don't
19:29
Speaker 1: mean like punching, even though sometimes that that does happen,
19:33
Speaker 1: but like to run up on a guy on stage. Now,
19:36
Speaker 1: they're not going to do that.
19:37
Speaker 6: I wasn't thinking nobody would do that, would Jamaicans anyway, But.
19:41
Speaker 1: Other Jamaicans like, yeah, because I would like you you're
19:45
Speaker 1: talking ship. When is his next shows? A showing at
19:48
Speaker 1: the Breakfast club? We go in? Yeah, we run up.
19:52
Speaker 3: So, yeah, have you done that to somebody, grabs somebody's mic?
19:55
Speaker 4: No?
19:55
Speaker 1: Uh we Mavada during Me and Mavado. Yeah, he used
19:59
Speaker 1: to run up on me a couple of times. I
20:00
Speaker 1: ran upon him the last time I was in Saint Elizabeth.
20:03
Speaker 1: That was crazy, which was then I got the concept
20:05
Speaker 1: to do the door run sound because I had a
20:08
Speaker 1: door run song before sting and then after Sting. Then
20:12
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, because he ran off stage
20:13
Speaker 1: two and he's related to you, saying both you know that?
20:21
Speaker 1: But yeah, but ahead the time that yeah, it was
20:24
Speaker 1: now in hindsight, I mean, I mean, I'm glad you
20:27
Speaker 1: had that feud, man. It made us big, and you
20:30
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's spread dance all to places
20:31
Speaker 1: like Africa, which at the time we were like, these
20:34
Speaker 1: guys listen to us because you know, they don't showcase
20:37
Speaker 1: that in the media. Then before the Internet where you
20:40
Speaker 1: could just jump on your phone and see Africa for yourself. Yes,
20:44
Speaker 1: So I think clashing is good, man, How.
20:47
Speaker 4: Do y'all get the good terms after clashing? Good conversation?
20:52
Speaker 1: The first time we had that conversation was when the
20:55
Speaker 1: first time we had that conversation was the second time
20:59
Speaker 1: the government stand for us in Jamaica because the ViBe's
21:02
Speaker 1: carteime of other things was so big, school kids fighting,
21:05
Speaker 1: people getting hurt. So we were just see there at
21:08
Speaker 1: King's House which is where the politicians, and were like, yo,
21:12
Speaker 1: music brought us here, bro, like this is crazy. That's
21:15
Speaker 1: when we started talking. And after that we still fielded,
21:20
Speaker 1: but it was just more like on a controlled level,
21:23
Speaker 1: like he would be like, yo, I dropped a song,
21:25
Speaker 1: why don't you answer it? Like oh, and I didn't
21:28
Speaker 1: hear it, And then I replied to it, and then
21:30
Speaker 1: I would drop a song and he would reply. So
21:32
Speaker 1: we kept it like that, and it culminated in us
21:35
Speaker 1: doing the West Kingston show when he called me on
21:37
Speaker 1: stage in West Kingstone with dust.
21:39
Speaker 2: Oh that's smart. So y'all kind of like planned it out.
21:41
Speaker 2: It was strategic and not in.
21:43
Speaker 1: The beginning, That's what I'm saying. After we went to
21:46
Speaker 1: the King's House where the government was, we was like
21:49
Speaker 1: outside waiting to go in, and we were just talking
21:52
Speaker 1: like do we get the kids? Man? Look you know
21:55
Speaker 1: what I mean, looking at our music. He's doing it
21:59
Speaker 1: brought us here, and then we just started like yo,
22:02
Speaker 1: fuck this that's that's plan this, let's be strategic.
22:05
Speaker 4: When did you realize the influence that you had? Was
22:07
Speaker 4: it moments like that when you got kids in school fighting,
22:10
Speaker 4: you know, for your music?
22:11
Speaker 2: Like, when did you realize I have influence over a
22:13
Speaker 2: whole generation?
22:15
Speaker 1: I mean I've always realized that, but I never took
22:18
Speaker 1: it as seriously as I should have, because then I
22:23
Speaker 1: would have made maybe better choices. I don't know. But
22:27
Speaker 1: with that being said, I still have no regrets. Yeah,
22:30
Speaker 1: because my choice has led me here. I mean I've
22:32
Speaker 1: been down some dark roads, but I'm still alive. Man,
22:36
Speaker 1: I'm doing extremely well and God has blessed me. But yeah,
22:38
Speaker 1: I've always realized that I had the influence.
22:41
Speaker 3: I got a question, right, So my wife is Jamaican, right,
22:44
Speaker 3: so I asked her we have artists some things, so
22:47
Speaker 3: we look at it differently. So she was like, looking back, yes,
22:50
Speaker 3: it was.
22:50
Speaker 1: There.
22:51
Speaker 3: Is there a moment in your career you wish you
22:52
Speaker 3: handled differently at all? Or like you just said, do
22:55
Speaker 3: you have no regrets? Is there anything that you said
22:57
Speaker 3: I should have done differently?
22:59
Speaker 1: I mean not really. I mean, let me see, should
23:03
Speaker 1: have done differently when I I think maybe when I
23:09
Speaker 1: I don't know when I hit an ninja man with
23:12
Speaker 1: the mic on stage. I don't know, but because that's
23:13
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, everything that I've done, it's still even
23:19
Speaker 1: if it brought me down, when I came up, I
23:21
Speaker 1: came up higher. So I don't like that word regret. Man.
23:25
Speaker 4: I don't know, because if you believe in God, you
23:29
Speaker 4: really got to believe everything happened for a reason. Even
23:32
Speaker 4: if it was just your own poor choice still got
23:34
Speaker 4: you close to the God because God got you through.
23:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Nothing I would do different.
23:39
Speaker 1: Maybe with a ninja man thing, maybe I wouldn't have
23:42
Speaker 1: punched it. Maybe I would have just kicked it. I
23:44
Speaker 1: don't know.
23:46
Speaker 4: Something that something in the public that's funny though, because
23:51
Speaker 4: he like he had to get it something out.
23:54
Speaker 1: Kick don't change history. What I'm saying, you're gonna mess
23:58
Speaker 1: it up for all of us. Go back in time
24:00
Speaker 1: and talk right.
24:03
Speaker 3: What's something the public completely misunderstands about vibes.
24:07
Speaker 1: I'm a fun guy, m I mean, I like to vibe.
24:10
Speaker 1: I'd like to have fun. Like if you don't know me,
24:13
Speaker 1: especially then it like and if you approach me wrong,
24:16
Speaker 1: obviously I'm going to react. But if I'm comfortable around people.
24:21
Speaker 1: We're cool, man, we vibe it. Yeah. So a lot
24:24
Speaker 1: of people really they think I'm just it's evil personal
24:27
Speaker 1: when I'm not.
24:29
Speaker 3: I mean, so now your lyricism is layer with double
24:33
Speaker 3: meanings and coded language at times. Yes, how intentional is that?
24:36
Speaker 3: Do you write for interpretation or expression both?
24:39
Speaker 1: I mean, music is art man, So at the end
24:41
Speaker 1: of the day, we're poets. Man. All you see you
24:44
Speaker 1: on stage clashing each other, singing those violent lyrics, it's
24:48
Speaker 1: still poetry. So it has to be done artistically. It
24:50
Speaker 1: has to be done a specific way to get a
24:53
Speaker 1: desired result. Otherwise you're just chatting ship. I mean, you're
24:56
Speaker 1: just talking. Yeah, so we do both.
25:00
Speaker 2: What fuels the creativity now?
25:01
Speaker 4: Now be could I know you you said when you
25:03
Speaker 4: was locked up, you know it was just your desire
25:05
Speaker 4: to work and feed your family that fueleded What fuels
25:08
Speaker 4: it now?
25:08
Speaker 2: Is it pain? Is it purpose?
25:10
Speaker 1: I mean purpose? Thank you for that thought of it?
25:13
Speaker 1: Like that purpose, I would say, because God is purpose.
25:16
Speaker 1: God is ultimate purpose, you know what I mean? So
25:19
Speaker 1: I think purpose pushes me, like I still record even
25:22
Speaker 1: though I don't have to, I still record five six
25:26
Speaker 1: songs and I'm in the studio, back and back and
25:29
Speaker 1: still we're in the studio party and girls are there,
25:32
Speaker 1: we're drinking, me smoking. I still knock out five songs,
25:35
Speaker 1: seven songs. So yeah, yeah, I love this, you know.
25:39
Speaker 1: I do this from the heart, man, and I do
25:41
Speaker 1: it for the culture too.
25:43
Speaker 3: Definitely one of your biggest records, Romp and Shot. Yes,
25:46
Speaker 3: did you ever get that clean? Or was it you
25:48
Speaker 3: just so you never got paid off it that you
25:49
Speaker 3: just threw it out and it just did what it did.
25:51
Speaker 1: I got paid. Come on, that song is under my
25:54
Speaker 1: That song put me on another level globally again because,
25:59
Speaker 1: like I said, it's the same Clarks did it summertime?
26:02
Speaker 1: Did it fever? Did it? You have some songs that
26:05
Speaker 1: you get those songs, it's like up another echelon, right,
26:08
Speaker 1: you're just going up. So yeah, of course, man, that
26:10
Speaker 1: that song was crazy. We actually wanted to try to
26:13
Speaker 1: see if we could get it cleared now and do
26:16
Speaker 1: like maybe a twelve year anniversary fifteen ye or whatever.
26:19
Speaker 1: But yeah, that song was crazy. But I didn't get
26:22
Speaker 1: it cleared. But in Neo's defense, he.
26:25
Speaker 3: Didn't see you.
26:25
Speaker 1: He couldn't clear it. Like he's remember the rhythm, you know,
26:29
Speaker 1: the thing go publishing, and you made the beat, but
26:32
Speaker 1: he's the rapper. But you know what I mean. So
26:34
Speaker 1: people think, oh, why didn't Envy clear the song? But
26:37
Speaker 1: you owned the brides to the Yeah. So yeah.
26:41
Speaker 3: Now, also when you perform back in the late nineties
26:44
Speaker 3: in early two thousand, there was terms and words that
26:47
Speaker 3: you could say that you cannot say anymore or they
26:49
Speaker 3: will try to cancel it.
26:50
Speaker 2: Oh no, the nineties kind of back a little bit.
26:52
Speaker 1: Man.
26:52
Speaker 3: You remember to getting a rapper shop?
26:54
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, take it right out, ramping shop. Shit,
26:57
Speaker 1: that was explicit. I mean, I don't know.
27:00
Speaker 2: Man, playing for the kids.
27:03
Speaker 1: Is explicit, as is very intolerant, which I think is
27:07
Speaker 1: changing now still because the world is changing. So you've
27:10
Speaker 1: got to be mindful of what you say.
27:13
Speaker 3: You know, there's certain songs you don't do because of that.
27:15
Speaker 2: Are you just I won't do there's certain songs.
27:18
Speaker 1: I won't do. Yeah? Hell yeah, I mean come on,
27:20
Speaker 1: that's like saying, oh, slavery was good, let's bring it back. No,
27:25
Speaker 1: we're not. So we're not going to sing certain songs.
27:27
Speaker 1: You're not gonna you know what I mean, come on,
27:31
Speaker 1: it's it's distasteful, Yes, distasteful. Thank you.
27:36
Speaker 4: And also, I'm sure over time you've probably seen gaut
27:38
Speaker 4: to gall and it looked beautiful together to gather. Don't
27:47
Speaker 4: got to got to gather look beautiful together.
27:49
Speaker 7: Man.
27:50
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't judge and I don't look. I'm
27:52
Speaker 1: I'm is what I'm saying. So yeah.
28:00
Speaker 3: Another question the wife had is are you going to
28:02
Speaker 3: marry your fiance? It's been a while now.
28:04
Speaker 1: That's usually how it works, You usually marry your fiance. Okay,
28:11
Speaker 1: this is the thing. I came out July thirty first. Yes,
28:15
Speaker 1: they're the biggest concert in Jamaica history. December thirty first,
28:19
Speaker 1: got my US visa January thirty first. Yeah, so I
28:24
Speaker 1: wanted to get married February thirty first. It turns out
28:29
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a thirty first.
28:31
Speaker 2: You did that on prof you know, exactly.
28:37
Speaker 1: Get married? No, because I've been so busy all over
28:40
Speaker 1: the place. We have to planet Oau. You know, her
28:42
Speaker 1: family is big, mine is big. But they know mis like,
28:45
Speaker 1: she's right here. I left her. I don't leave her nowhere.
28:48
Speaker 2: She's not my good luck chime out in trouble.
28:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. She balances me, she calms me, man,
28:54
Speaker 1: So yeah, she good.
28:55
Speaker 2: How was that. How was that big show that you
28:57
Speaker 2: did in Jamaica.
28:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, over thirty five some pre crazy. That show was
29:01
Speaker 1: a sea of people just as far as I can see.
29:04
Speaker 2: Was it overwhelming for you?
29:06
Speaker 4: No?
29:06
Speaker 1: Man, too easy for me, Like I said, I put
29:09
Speaker 1: in the work and I know I deserve it. So
29:12
Speaker 1: for me like no, nervous, no nothing. We just you
29:16
Speaker 1: saw why I came out of the pit because we
29:18
Speaker 1: did that to It's like art was in the dungeon.
29:23
Speaker 1: So I'm coming up now out of the pit of hell.
29:26
Speaker 1: That's what's the concept for me, coming out from under
29:29
Speaker 1: the stage. Man, I work for that. I deserve it.
29:33
Speaker 1: Thank you God, thank you Jesus.
29:35
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question about Jamaican culture. It
29:37
Speaker 5: seems like bleaching your skin is becoming more popular now,
29:42
Speaker 5: Like what is the fascination with that?
29:46
Speaker 1: I think it has to do with, you know, the
29:48
Speaker 1: usual issue self hate, the history of colonialism, colorism, it's
29:54
Speaker 1: all that, you know what I mean. And like we
29:56
Speaker 1: I were speaking to, I don't remember who I was
29:58
Speaker 1: speaking to, because even in like places like Asia, skin
30:02
Speaker 1: bleaching is a big thing too. And it has to
30:05
Speaker 1: do with that Stockholm syndrome. Because if you think about it.
30:08
Speaker 1: Who in Asia bleaches the most. It's the North sorry,
30:12
Speaker 1: the South Koreans and the Japanese that americanized kind of European.
30:20
Speaker 1: They weren't that you were centric, look is what I'm saying.
30:23
Speaker 1: And black people have always had that problem. I mean,
30:26
Speaker 1: I would never bleach again personally, you know what I mean,
30:29
Speaker 1: because I'm mature enough to know that. Yo, fuck that.
30:33
Speaker 1: I definitely think it has to do with self hate
30:36
Speaker 1: or self lack of self confidence as a race, because
30:40
Speaker 1: when I was bleaching, like I literally looked in the
30:43
Speaker 1: mirror and I thought I looked better being light skin,
30:48
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it took a time
30:50
Speaker 1: for me to man, fuck that.
30:54
Speaker 4: So it was a cosmetic thing when you did it, Yes, definitely,
30:58
Speaker 4: but I would never do.
30:59
Speaker 6: That again, man, And I'm glad. I'm very very glad
31:02
Speaker 6: to hear that.
31:03
Speaker 5: But even though on Love and Hip Hop Spice Spice,
31:06
Speaker 5: she it was a mess. It was a bigger message
31:08
Speaker 5: that she was trying to convey and it was exactly
31:10
Speaker 5: what you were saying. She's like, man, this this is
31:12
Speaker 5: different in America than it is back But like, you
31:15
Speaker 5: don't get certain things if you're not a fairer skin,
31:18
Speaker 5: you know, and people here because love and hip hop
31:22
Speaker 5: is American people was.
31:23
Speaker 6: Looking at spices like what the hell? Like, why would
31:26
Speaker 6: you know?
31:27
Speaker 5: Black skin is beautiful always, you know what I mean? So,
31:30
Speaker 5: but now I totally do get what you're saying.
31:33
Speaker 6: It is totally different.
31:34
Speaker 1: Culturally, Yeah, trust me, because we only have blacks in Jamaica. Yeah,
31:40
Speaker 1: so for us, it's not racism. It's colorism. Like the
31:43
Speaker 1: lights that skin you are, it's like climb social it's
31:48
Speaker 1: crazy work.
31:48
Speaker 2: Was it a woman? Was it a woman that encouraged
31:51
Speaker 2: you to do it?
31:52
Speaker 1: Oh? No, it's just a bunch of us as you
31:54
Speaker 1: know what I mean, does Jamaica?
31:58
Speaker 5: One point was yeah, I mean, so did you have
32:01
Speaker 5: any effects after that?
32:02
Speaker 6: Like long term because you were doing it for a while, Like.
32:06
Speaker 1: Term effects? Just some fucking pictures that I don't want
32:09
Speaker 1: to look at.
32:12
Speaker 4: They used to say I was bleaching, and they would
32:14
Speaker 4: always send me pictures of you and have me side
32:16
Speaker 4: by side.
32:17
Speaker 5: You know you were he was ugly and then he
32:21
Speaker 5: was cute and no, damn no, he had a whole face.
32:29
Speaker 2: God metic surgery.
32:32
Speaker 4: I don't know, I know, tell him the truth, Michael,
32:39
Speaker 4: what happened?
32:40
Speaker 3: Have polyms in my nose. I would snore a lot
32:41
Speaker 3: and couldn't, so they removed the polymps. I didn't touch
32:44
Speaker 3: my nose. My nose is the same, Michael.
32:49
Speaker 1: You still get.
32:49
Speaker 3: Nervous when you perform.
32:51
Speaker 1: What's nervous? Is it soul? That was that it tastes?
32:53
Speaker 1: Is it contagious?
32:54
Speaker 2: M don't We don't do None of us know that.
32:57
Speaker 1: We don't do that. No, like I said, and plus
33:00
Speaker 1: like I said, I was raised in a family of
33:03
Speaker 1: people that love music. My uncles used to try to
33:06
Speaker 1: be DJs, not DJ's like like me DJ Jamaican rapper. Yeah. Yeah,
33:10
Speaker 1: so I grew up always wanting to get the microphone,
33:14
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I grew up wanting to
33:16
Speaker 1: go on stage.
33:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:18
Speaker 1: So no, as it relates to music, no nervousness. I'd
33:22
Speaker 1: be more nervous like going in the bank or something,
33:25
Speaker 1: or walking through the airport or you know what I mean? No, no, no, no, no,
33:30
Speaker 1: that's too easy.
33:31
Speaker 3: Was not at all.
33:32
Speaker 2: How was Jamaica for you? Is you make a safe
33:34
Speaker 2: space for vibe culture?
33:36
Speaker 1: Of course not?
33:43
Speaker 2: Do you stay there primarily?
33:44
Speaker 1: Or I live here, sir?
33:45
Speaker 4: Oh okay okay, I live in Florida got you got
33:47
Speaker 4: your I mean, I did thirteen years in prison. Why
33:50
Speaker 4: would I But I wrecked my country right through. I
33:54
Speaker 4: wrecked my culture all the way every day one the
33:57
Speaker 4: odd man bumbo clad?
34:00
Speaker 1: Can I say that?
34:00
Speaker 4: Yeah? Is it the government or the people that makes
34:03
Speaker 4: you be like? Okay, let me stay, let me, let
34:05
Speaker 4: me keep my distance from nah.
34:06
Speaker 1: I just want to like I spent thirteen years, Like seriously,
34:10
Speaker 1: that's not a joe, Like I need to go out
34:11
Speaker 1: now like I'm working. Yeah, Yeah, Florida is good because
34:16
Speaker 1: it's a home. You can come to New York. You
34:18
Speaker 1: can just go across the Atlantic, England, go west during
34:22
Speaker 1: la you know what I mean. So it's just a
34:25
Speaker 1: nice place to be geographically, I can just move.
34:29
Speaker 3: Do you like to go back to those areas that
34:31
Speaker 3: you grew up on? Like drive through Brooklyn in America?
34:38
Speaker 2: Want so hard?
34:40
Speaker 8: No, No, I'm not going back. But like in Brooklyn,
34:49
Speaker 8: I mean like areas in Brooklyn brown exact white planes
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Speaker 8: rode back in the day twenty fist, yes, do you
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Speaker 8: go by?
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Speaker 1: No, sir, don't you know what I mean? But seriously,
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Speaker 1: why I'm just staying out of trouble. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to be involved in nothing negative. Mm hmm. Never Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so we stay away from that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah has has has you?
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Speaker 4: Mister Palm will become a ever become a prisoner above cartel?
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Speaker 2: Like how do you remind yoursel.
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Speaker 1: All the time, all the time? And it's crazy, like
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's conflicting, but it's whatever, man, Vibescartell is
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Speaker 1: why I am. I have the things that I have,
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Speaker 1: and I can take care of my family. I work sacrifice,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But sometimes some days I
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Speaker 1: wish I could just walk, man, just walk with my
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Speaker 1: grand chods on the road and just well buy some
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Speaker 1: ice cream and chili that mm hmm. It's crazy.
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Speaker 2: So what keeps you grounded? What keeps you reminding yourself
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Speaker 2: of who you?
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Speaker 1: Who you are?
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Speaker 2: Not the character of the Vibe Cartel.
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Speaker 1: I used to buy into the character mm hmmmm, because
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Speaker 1: we grew up rough, We grew up in more so,
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Speaker 1: grew up tough two point oh. But you know, I
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Speaker 1: just what keeps grounding the family? Like I said, my kids,
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Speaker 1: the new lease that God has given me keep me
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Speaker 1: grounded and messing that up for nobody. M hm.
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Speaker 3: Well, the album is streaming right now. New album you
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Speaker 3: want to hear something of the new album.
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Speaker 1: No, I did the album, sir, the people right now?
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Speaker 4: Can I make a request, though, you need to do
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Speaker 4: a comedy movie, Jamaican comedy.
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Speaker 2: We already get a Jamaican gang bang shooting.
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Speaker 1: Up comedy or horror film. I always thought about that.
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Speaker 1: There's no Jamaican horror film, even though as African descent,
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Speaker 1: as we have a lot of us, we call them
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Speaker 1: dumpy story Oh yeah, yeah, yeah we don't. I think
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Speaker 1: we need to capitalize on that more.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, you believe in mhm.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say something very disrespectful about it.
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Speaker 2: Let's hear it.
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Speaker 1: No, I don't, I don't believe you don't.
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Speaker 2: Believe it goes? Come on, artist, Yeah, I know you was.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course, I mean, of course that's the
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Speaker 1: spirit is the spirit. Remember you have good spirit, you
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Speaker 1: have bad spirit? You know what I mean? Good spirits?
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Speaker 1: Right now?
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Speaker 2: That's right. What about mermaids? Did y'all ever see mermaidsaid?
37:39
Speaker 2: Because I always hear no for real, because.
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Speaker 1: That's the things I'm talking about. In Jamaica, we call
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Speaker 1: them river mains because we have a lot of references. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so stories that the river mains put the golden table
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Speaker 1: up and people would see it and dive in and
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Speaker 1: then they will pull you down in the water. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we grew up on all those stories in Calves. That's
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Speaker 1: the spirits of butchers. No, yeah, at night with the
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Speaker 1: cow chain and it's.
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Speaker 6: Crazy, man like like the Jamaican Texas change exactly.
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Speaker 1: Without the Texas and without the change, it's no budget.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen a river maybe before? Have you seen
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Speaker 2: a river made before?
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Speaker 1: No, but I've seen lots of duppies ghost like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: no joke, you know what I mean. So, yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: not about belief, you know, you know, you know, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. You couldn't have God. You believe
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Speaker 1: in the God. You have to accept that the devil
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Speaker 1: is exist, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you got you got plans to write any
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Speaker 4: films anything like that?
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Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. I'd love to do a film about my life.
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Speaker 1: I mean not just not my entire life. So it's
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Speaker 1: maybe like the prison part.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, after I.
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Speaker 1: Die, someone else can do the full life ship. I
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Speaker 1: have no time for that. I'm living. I'm living now. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: my kids can do that when I'm gone, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. So yeah, but definitely movies. Man, I
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Speaker 1: love entertainment. I love movies.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you got a sense of him. You're very fun.
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Speaker 5: Definitely a vibe there you go.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna try this again.
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Speaker 1: Vibes.
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Speaker 3: What song do you want to hear.
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Speaker 1: For the people?
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Speaker 6: I want to hit port Flip.
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Speaker 3: I want to said, let's get into porn floor right now.
39:34
Speaker 3: It's weekend. You should have your tickets already. If not,
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Speaker 3: it's sold out, you're gonna have to go to step
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Speaker 3: Hub and pay grands and grands and grands for it.
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Speaker 3: But definitely check them out. And we appreciate you for
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Speaker 3: joining us anytime.
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Speaker 2: Brother.
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Speaker 1: Pull up. Yeah, I'm a big up Sharlie man, big
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Speaker 1: up your envy, big up. Yes, where's Angela?
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Speaker 2: She got her own show on after Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Okay she should be Yeah, okay, okay, big up Angela.
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Speaker 1: Yeah that's what you know. God is the great task.
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Speaker 1: That's right we are.
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Speaker 3: It's the breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2: It's vibes, Car tell you wake til ass up in
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Speaker 2: the morning. The Breakfast Club.