Latest / Finding God at Work / 6: Loving Your City (Zack Wilson of LINK Kalamazoo)
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- 0:03(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Hi, I'm Chris.
- 0:07This is Finding God at Work.
- 0:14Just a reminder that Finding God at Work isn't just a podcast.
- 0:17It's also an online course.
- 0:19Check it out at findinggodatwork.org.
- 0:27Our current series is Meaningful Work, Calling, Formation, Service, and Love.
- 0:33And today we have a special guest with us, Zack Wilson.
- 0:36He works in IT and the healthcare industry.
- 0:39And he is also one of the founding members of a group called Link Kalamazoo.
- 0:43He's gonna tell a little bit of that story on today's podcast.
- 0:46And Zach and I have known each other for
- 0:48almost 30 years since we went to the same school growing up.
- 0:53So five year old Chris and
- 0:54Zach were hanging around playing soccer at some point probably.
- 0:58But Zach, it's so great to have you here.
- 0:59Thanks for joining us.
- 1:01Thanks for having me here, Chris.
- 1:02I'm excited to tell everybody about Link Kalamazoo.
- 1:05Awesome.
- 1:06So before we dig in, I usually just like asking the question,
- 1:10what helps you find God at work?
- 1:12What helps you welcome God's presence on a normal work day?
- 1:16Yeah, on a typical work day, I'd say the main thing is actually,
- 1:21from our second grade class, we memorized Colossians 323, and
- 1:26whatever you do, working it with all your heart.
- 1:29It's working for the Lord and not for men.
- 1:31Keeping that in mind can really get you through those tough moments when maybe
- 1:36you're not happy with the work that you need to do or under stress.
- 1:41Just remembering that I'm doing all this for the Lord and
- 1:45it represents the Lord to the people around me.
- 1:48Cuz many of my co-workers know that I'm a Christian, so
- 1:51the attitude that I bring into the work day is incredibly important.
- 1:56Yeah, that's great.
- 1:58I love that little plug for just keeping a verse with you.
- 2:03Memorization doesn't have to be this big complicated thing.
- 2:05Yeah.
- 2:06And how that can renew your focus.
- 2:09I also, I remember in second grade, it was Mrs.
- 2:11Mitchell, and her theme for the year was frogs.
- 2:15That's exactly how I remember that.
- 2:16She had lots of frogs, yes.
- 2:18Green frogs, rainforest frogs.
- 2:19Fully rely on God.
- 2:20Yeah, and it was an acronym.
- 2:21Yeah, fully rely on God.
- 2:23It was like a cheesy evangelical, but hey, we still remember it.
- 2:26So-
- 2:27Crazy, it's hard to remember a lot of things in a lot of verses, but
- 2:31that one is locked in for life.
- 2:33Yeah, yeah, well, that's beautiful.
- 2:36So I wanna spend most of our time talking about Link Kalamazoo.
- 2:40In this series, we're talking about calling formation service and love.
- 2:45And part of service, part of how we love our neighbors,
- 2:48is promoting the common good.
- 2:50Promoting the flourishing of the whole community that we're in.
- 2:53And Link Kalamazoo really does have that focus of the whole city of Kalamazoo,
- 2:57the whole community.
- 2:58So I would just love to hear, how did you first kinda find your way into thinking
- 3:03about something like this for the city of Kalamazoo?
- 3:06Yeah, that's gonna be a bit of a long-winded story, but-
- 3:11That's great.
- 3:11We'll stick with me on it.
- 3:13So I moved to Kalamazoo in 2020, in March of 2020, actually.
- 3:17And it's right when the pandemic started.
- 3:21So I didn't really know anyone here.
- 3:23I couldn't go to church, cuz all the churches were shut down.
- 3:27So I spent a lot of time just walking around town, going to parks, and
- 3:33praying over Kalamazoo, protecting us from COVID and things like that.
- 3:39And as I just prayed, walking around the city,
- 3:42I started to really feel God's heart for Kalamazoo.
- 3:46And why couldn't something great happen here?
- 3:50Why couldn't we see God's presence break through in a unique way in Kalamazoo?
- 3:55And it just really marinated over the course of probably six months,
- 4:02while I didn't really have any friends or community here.
- 4:06And then in summer of 2021, I was just downtown.
- 4:13There's food truck Fridays, they call them, and I was there.
- 4:18This one guy just commented on the jersey that I was wearing, and
- 4:23it sparked a conversation and talked with him for a little bit.
- 4:26Told him I recently moved to Kalamazoo and that I love it here.
- 4:30And he was really intrigued, wanted to know why I loved it.
- 4:33Coming from Chicago and Grand Rapids, why did I like small town Kalamazoo?
- 4:38And I just explained a few things to him and sparked a friendship,
- 4:44which I was not really expecting from that conversation.
- 4:47But we connected, shared information.
- 4:49I found out later that that man was the mayor of Kalamazoo for 12 years.
- 4:55And so I didn't expect any sort of follow up or anything.
- 4:59But he did, the next day, invited me to an event that was going on downtown.
- 5:04And we built a friendship.
- 5:06His name's Bobby.
- 5:07He's a great friend of mine and huge supporter of Link Kalamazoo.
- 5:11He's really the one that started it all.
- 5:13He's connected to everybody in the community.
- 5:16So I'll skip over a few things.
- 5:19We did some trial runs, basically, but they didn't become consistent until 2024.
- 5:26And he brought a handful of young professionals together to say,
- 5:30we need to start something for the young people in Kalamazoo,
- 5:33because we need people to stay here.
- 5:35We want people to see that their future is in Kalamazoo.
- 5:39We met over a span of many months and strategized, what do we really need?
- 5:45What's the aim of all of this?
- 5:49And we boiled it down to a few different circles of questions
- 5:53that people are trying to answer for themselves.
- 5:56So for a lot of college students and young professionals, it's, where's my future?
- 6:02And we want people to think that their future can be here in Kalamazoo.
- 6:06Same thing is, which is crucially important, is where are my people?
- 6:10And then the last is, how can I make an impact in the community?
- 6:14And so we really, we boiled it down to those things and said,
- 6:18how do we create a space where those questions are being answered for people?
- 6:23Where they can see their future can be here in Kalamazoo.
- 6:26There's unique events going on.
- 6:30There's plenty of job opportunities.
- 6:32There's just, there's like great people that you can meet.
- 6:35And then lastly, making an impact in the community.
- 6:40One of the advantages we have being a smaller city, for those listening,
- 6:45it's Kalamazoo itself is 75,000 people.
- 6:48And then the Metro is about 250,000.
- 6:51And the difference you can make here is you can actually join a board of a non-profit
- 6:56or be on a city commission position with the city.
- 7:03And it's less competitive for those things.
- 7:07You can actually find those opportunities at a young age.
- 7:10Like for myself, I serve on our city's planning commission
- 7:13as a result of learning all this stuff.
- 7:16So anyway, the analogy we use is like, Kalamazoo is like a speedboat,
- 7:22whereas a place like Chicago would be a cruise ship.
- 7:25Whereas we can make a lot of change and adapt pretty quickly
- 7:28as a community because we're smaller.
- 7:31So let's use that to our advantage.
- 7:33Yeah, yeah.
- 7:35I love that vision of the speedboat.
- 7:39Like a smaller city is a more nimble city.
- 7:42There's more opportunity for younger people to step into roles of influence.
- 7:46And it sounds like Link has brought a lot of those younger people together.
- 7:51What have your gatherings looked like?
- 7:53Like what is a Link event and who comes to it?
- 7:56Yeah.
- 7:57And I'll also, I realized I never finished answering the how it started.
- 8:01So I'll do that too.
- 8:02So we formally started in July of 2024.
- 8:06We had no money, no sponsor, no backer.
- 8:10So we paid for this out of our own pockets
- 8:12and bought Costco burgers and hot dogs and really basic food
- 8:17and just invited everybody we knew, sent out a mass email,
- 8:21texted friends, said, hey, meet at this place and we'll hang out.
- 8:25And that first night we had at least 60 people
- 8:29just show up, hang out, build connections, new people meeting each other
- 8:34and started to formalize over time.
- 8:37So now we're a little over a year in
- 8:39and we regularly have between 100 and 150 people show up to our events.
- 8:44We have an email list of about a thousand people that we email out each time.
- 8:49As for what a typical event looks like,
- 8:52we usually will have food and drinks,
- 8:56we'll be in a unique location downtown.
- 9:00So we want to show people that there's spaces
- 9:03that they might not be aware of in downtown Kalamazoo, the heart of our city.
- 9:07And we will make it a unique feel.
- 9:11So for example, this upcoming Thursday, actually,
- 9:15we are turning a like alley into a beer garden
- 9:20and we will have turf, string lights, a beer vendor,
- 9:26and then we'll have some food trucks that we'll put in the alley as well.
- 9:30We'll have a live artist playing.
- 9:32So we bring all these things to make it a unique experience.
- 9:35And then we always have what we call speed networking.
- 9:39And it's just quick questions that are icebreaker kind of questions.
- 9:43We have different games or ways for people
- 9:47to interact with new people each time as they do those.
- 9:51So there's actually been people have brought up
- 9:53how they've built new friendships because of this.
- 9:55And it's actually people's favorite part of the events,
- 9:59which I find comical just because I can think of those things.
- 10:03It's like, oh, they're making us do this thing.
- 10:05But yeah, scripted icebreakers, et cetera.
- 10:07Yeah, yeah, I really value it.
- 10:09And then the final part is really the purpose, right?
- 10:14Why are we coming together?
- 10:15So we'll have a different speaker or activity that we do together.
- 10:20So for this next event, we're having our city commission candidates
- 10:24come and actually share what they see for the future of Kalamazoo.
- 10:28So people are going to be voting in November
- 10:31for who they want on the city commission.
- 10:32It's really important for our young professionals to be aware of
- 10:35what are these different candidates about?
- 10:38Because we have 20 of them.
- 10:40And so we want to build that closeness
- 10:43where you can actually interact with these people and ask them questions
- 10:47because they're going to help direct the future of Kalamazoo as well.
- 10:51Yeah, yeah.
- 10:53Thinking about the awkwardness of the icebreakers, maybe, but people loving it.
- 10:58It feels like that's that people piece, right?
- 11:00Finding your people.
- 11:01And that's so huge when you're getting started in a community or in a career.
- 11:05I could definitely see how that would be people's takeaway.
- 11:09But those other pieces, too, that kind of like Kalamazoo can be my place.
- 11:13Thinking about my future is having a place here.
- 11:16And then the sense of purpose.
- 11:18How can I make an impact?
- 11:19What are you most excited about in terms of that impact piece?
- 11:23And you can draw on your planning commission experience, too, if that's helpful.
- 11:27But looking at Kalamazoo in the next few years, what are you most excited about?
- 11:31There's a lot of different things.
- 11:34So one is that seeing these different organizations that all care about Kalamazoo
- 11:40work together for the overall good is something that has come out of link.
- 11:46It's intentional in our name that we're constantly working with these different
- 11:51organizations in the community to make something bigger than we ever thought possible happen.
- 11:57For example, actually, right now we're in the middle of what we're calling 269 week.
- 12:02That's the area code for Kalamazoo and surrounding cities.
- 12:07And we have partnered with several different organizations in the community and businesses
- 12:14to actually throw over a week's worth of events for the city.
- 12:19And we've created a separate social media page that's communicating out like the 15
- 12:23different things that are going on this week and ways that people can get involved.
- 12:27So common critique we hear about Kalamazoo is nothing's happening.
- 12:32So we worked with all these different people that are doing things.
- 12:36And we made a comprehensive list for people to see this is what's going on.
- 12:41Let's be a part of it.
- 12:42So I'm really excited to see where that goes from here because we're going to have that
- 12:46be an annual festival for celebrating Kalamazoo and coming together as a community.
- 12:53That's like one thing I'm really excited to see.
- 12:59I'm excited to see link continue to grow.
- 13:02We have a vision to see over 1,000 people at our events because we estimate there's
- 13:07about 20,000 people that might fit in our bucket of young professional in the area.
- 13:14So we're saying 1,000 should not be too crazy of a target for people to be connecting.
- 13:21And the last thing I'm really excited to see though is we have our city's 10 years
- 13:28master plan coming up.
- 13:30And already as young professionals, we've been able to meet with the group that creates
- 13:35that 10-year master plan.
- 13:37And we've given our feedback as young professionals by doing a brainstorming session with them
- 13:43and providing a curated list of all that feedback.
- 13:47So now that I'm on our city's planning commission, I'll be voting on that 10-year plan as someone
- 13:54who's representing young professionals.
- 13:56So we're really just at the beginning point.
- 13:58It's well-timed to actually see the things that we want to see in the city will start
- 14:04to happen over the next 10 years.
- 14:07Yeah, yeah.
- 14:08I bet there's a lot of municipalities in the nation, like similar like small-sized cities
- 14:13that wish they had a link for their city, you know, that wish they had that kind of
- 14:17engaged young professionals, not just thinking about themselves, but thinking about the
- 14:21city and the city long-term and how to make it what it's meant to be.
- 14:26That's really inspiring.
- 14:28Maybe listeners on this podcast will be inspired to start something like this in their city
- 14:32if it doesn't exist.
- 14:34It doesn't take much to make a difference, too.
- 14:37Yeah, yeah.
- 14:38I mean, you guys had $0 in 2024 and a vision, and all of this has happened since then.
- 14:43Right.
- 14:44That's incredible.
- 14:46One final question.
- 14:47So LINC itself is not like an explicitly Christian organization, but obviously your faith is
- 14:53part of how you think about contributing to the common good.
- 14:56How would you talk about that relationship?
- 14:58How does your faith intersect with the work that you're doing with LINC, with the Planning
- 15:01Commission, and in other ways?
- 15:03As I mentioned earlier, when I was prayer walking around Kalamazoo, I couldn't help
- 15:09but feel God's passion for the city.
- 15:12I've always been minded that way of wanting to transform communities, and I think it comes
- 15:19from the Great Commission.
- 15:20The first word of that is to go.
- 15:21And when I get to go to LINC in our events, I'm in a group of people that I would not
- 15:29see at the church in my week-to-week basis.
- 15:32It looks very different from any category you want to pick as far as race, political
- 15:43views, economic status, priorities and values in life.
- 15:48It's a whole different group of people that I get to connect with, and that's the example
- 15:54I see Jesus setting when He is ministering to people on the earth.
- 15:58He's connecting with people very different than Himself, and He's meeting everyone where
- 16:02they're at.
- 16:03So for me, it's always exciting to meet the many different people that come to LINC,
- 16:07and I learn a lot from them and from their life experiences as well.
- 16:14Personally, I just think that Christians should be the most passionate people on earth about
- 16:18transforming their communities, because we believe people are inherently valuable and
- 16:23created by God, and we have purpose and meaning when we get to participate in God's redemptive
- 16:30plan.
- 16:31So I don't see how our communities are not part of that and wanting to make them a place
- 16:36of thriving and flourishing.
- 16:38Amen.
- 16:39Amen.
- 16:40Well, I wish we could keep talking, but I think we'd better wrap up.
- 16:45We're trying to keep our commute-length podcast to a commute length.
- 16:49But Zach, would you be willing to just close in prayer for our listeners, maybe anybody
- 16:52who's been inspired to think about their city, just hearing this story, and for all of us
- 16:56that we would lean into what God's calling us to?
- 17:00Absolutely, I'd love to.
- 17:03Jesus, we just welcome Your presence into this place, wherever everyone is at right
- 17:09now as they're commuting to and from work, or working out in the gym, or wherever they
- 17:14might be right now.
- 17:16God, I pray that You would just speak to people's hearts of what You've created them
- 17:22to do.
- 17:22I know that every single one of us is created to make an impact in some way, and I pray
- 17:28that You would give people hope and drive, because it doesn't take much to make a big
- 17:33difference, and that they can start with what they have in their hands.
- 17:37So God, I thank You for just the fact that You are still moving today.
- 17:43You want to move through people, and all You're looking for is someone to say yes.
- 17:48So I pray for people on this call that are just open-handed to You and want to serve
- 17:55You and to serve the people that You've put them around.
- 17:58God, I pray You would place ideas into their minds to bless their communities, and I pray
- 18:05all this in Your name.
- 18:06Amen.