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Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro: Deontay Wilder · Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro

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  Speaker 1: One day.
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  Speaker 2: All right. All right. So. Hey, what the hell you doing, bro?
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  Speaker 3: Baby, I got the right room?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the wrong room.
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  Speaker 3: Wait. What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Deontay? That's my name.
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  Speaker 3: Deontay Wilder.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on, bro? How's it going, baby? Everything good?
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  Speaker 3: You like pizza?
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  Speaker 2: I love pizza. Oh, look at that. Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: I think you fucking know something about something about something.
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  Speaker 3: Look at that.
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  Speaker 2: What inches is this?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, sausage and pepperoni. This is the regular OG style.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is like a 16 inch, 18? Yeah, like 16. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's what she said.
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  Speaker 3: And then, you know, this is the square. Want to
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  Speaker 3: have the square?
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  Speaker 2: Let's start with the square. Yes, sir. What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: I love the square. My kids love the square.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed. There you go, man. Delivering happiness for the.
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  Speaker 3: Heavyweight champion of the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 3: I get to do this every day.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, salute.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Salute. All right. Let's see what's coming down.
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  Speaker 3: Chindan.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: You know what Chindan is?
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  Speaker 2: What's that?
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  Speaker 3: It's Italian. It's like 100 years.
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  Speaker 2: Good luck. Yeah. Chindan.
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  Speaker 3: Chindani.
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  Speaker 2: Chindani.
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  Speaker 3: Chindani, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Chindani.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of good, you know, black Italians.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Chindani.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like Franco Harris.
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  Speaker 2: Remember him? No, Franco Harris.
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  Speaker 1: Franco Harris was a great running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: He was black and Italian. Giancarlo Esposito, that actor. He's
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  Speaker 1: been doing the right thing. He was in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of stuff, Giancarlo Esposito. Very Italian name, but he's black
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  Speaker 1: and Italian.
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  Speaker 2: How many black Italians are there? There's a few, man.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a popular thing?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's popular, but there's a couple
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  Speaker 3: of them out. I just found out that Matt Barnes
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  Speaker 3: is one.
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  Speaker 2: Is he?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even know. We're friends, me and Matt Barnes.
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  Speaker 3: He's a tall fellow.
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  Speaker 2: He's like 6'8. What are you, like 6'7? 6'7? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Black Italian.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, black Italian's a thing.
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  Speaker 2: But he don't speak no Italian, though. No.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what's funny?
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  Speaker 1: When you go to Italy, and I've been in Italy
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  Speaker 1: a few times, and you see somebody, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: you see some dark.
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  Speaker 3: Guys like me, and you see a black guy like you,
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  Speaker 3: and he comes out, hey, buongiorno, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: And he's talking Italian, so it's like, it's just kind
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  Speaker 3: of freaking funny. You know, like Kobe grew up there.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kobe Bryant, because his dad played in Italy. So
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  Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant was like fluent in Italian. So it makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: you know?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you grow up somewhere, You had a...
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  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful language. Yeah, my trainer, which is my
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  Speaker 2: co-manager now, my long-time trainer, co-manager now, J.D. He loved Italy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he had a best friend. He was a
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  Speaker 2: former champion African guy. Ah, man, I can't think of
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  Speaker 2: his name, but he was a champion. He lived there,
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  Speaker 2: and he was good friends with him. You used to
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  Speaker 2: go see him all the time. He know the language
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  Speaker 2: as well a little bit. You know who lived there?
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  Speaker 3: Was Marvin Hagler. So Marvin Hagler, you know, from Rockton, Massachusetts,
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  Speaker 3: one of the greatest middleweights. He was trained by Italian guys.
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  Speaker 1: I think they were the Petronelli brothers, one of those guys.
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  Speaker 3: And Marvin, you know, lived in, unfortunately, he died pretty young.
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  Speaker 2: With his wife up there. Is she from there?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Just maybe.
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  Speaker 3: How do you like the pizza?
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: You like Prince Creole?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Come on with it. I looked y'all up,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the last time I saw you, I looked
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  Speaker 2: you up.
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  Speaker 3: You did, right?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, do they Uber Eats? Mm-hmm. And we saw
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  Speaker 2: that Uber Eats. I was like, oh, it's going down.
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  Speaker 2: We was heading to the airport. Yeah. At the time,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it's going down.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't have it yet.
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  Speaker 2: No, we ain't had it yet. Oh, okay. So this
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  Speaker 2: is the first time.
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  Speaker 3: Looking up to the hype?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, most definitely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I love these sausages, too.
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  Speaker 3: The one that made them famous is just the spicy.
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  Speaker 1: Pepperoni, sister pepperoni, like a lot of pepperoni without the sausage.
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  Speaker 3: But I like sausage too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is nice. It's nice. It's like three of
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  Speaker 2: these sauces are like some real sausage.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is cut sausage, as we would say, right?
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  Speaker 2: What type of cheese is it?
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  Speaker 3: It's just good mozzarella cheese.
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  Speaker 2: Regular mozzarella? Yeah, mozzarella cheese. And just red, red sauce?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a homemade sauce. They're a family sauce. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the guys that created it. Everybody has their own unique thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: How often do you eat pizza?
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  Speaker 2: Every day if it was up to me. It's up
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  Speaker 2: to you every day? You know, every time I get hungry,
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  Speaker 2: you know how you get hungry and you're like, man,
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  Speaker 2: what do we want to eat? Right. What's the together?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, something simple, easy.
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  Speaker 3: Slice of pizza.
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  Speaker 2: You feel me? Yeah. Every time. And like, we knew
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  Speaker 2: it in my family. We knew you was going to
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  Speaker 2: say that. You know. What do y'all want to eat?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm a light eater. Out of all my family
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  Speaker 2: and my kids. You? They eat way more than me. Oh, really? Look,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a light eater. You know what I'm saying? But
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  Speaker 2: I'm very strong. You know, I can go. I can
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  Speaker 2: do all this stuff. It's weird, though.
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  Speaker 3: We always naturally, naturally very strong.
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  Speaker 2: Always. Always have been. Always have been. Like, didn't look
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  Speaker 2: the part, but was the part. Right. It always have
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: been a surprise to many guys because they're looking at
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  Speaker 2: something that they don't understand. It's like how you look
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  Speaker 2: at a person, you judge them off of sometimes how
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  Speaker 2: they look. And then when people say, sometimes when people speak,
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  Speaker 2: you can tell certain things. But all that's not true. Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: You can't judge a book by its cover. You can't.
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  Speaker 2: You can't at all.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes you see a tall, skinny guy, and you think, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I can take that guy.
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  Speaker 2: He got little legs and all that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then when you get then, you know, when things
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  Speaker 2: break out and the damage is done, you can't take
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  Speaker 2: it back. Yeah. You win it now.
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  Speaker 3: The first time I saw you fight, I just broke up.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that was a hell of a fight.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know much about you.
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  Speaker 1: My son put me on to you, and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this guy Deontay Wilder.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, I'd never seen him.
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  Speaker 2: And I said.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, you know, I said, he looks very raw.
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  Speaker 3: I said, he looks like so raw. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when they start fighting, you know, and then man, but
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  Speaker 3: then when you lit him up, it was like, wow.
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  Speaker 1: And you were like, I didn't know, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: then you see that kind of potential. Then I kind
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  Speaker 1: of got it, you know, I was like, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: guy is, he's got potential.
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  Speaker 3: But they just got to teach him.
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  Speaker 1: A little more of the finer things of boxing, then
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  Speaker 1: he could be unbeatable.
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  Speaker 2: My story is I started from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. We were
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  Speaker 2: mostly football, basketball down there. That's what I wanted to do.
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  Speaker 2: But I had a daughter coming up. She was born
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  Speaker 2: with spina bifida, so I had to drop out of college.
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  Speaker 2: That killed my dreams of any other type of sport.
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  Speaker 2: sport because you needed school to get to that point of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, professional, in a professional level. So, you know, everything,
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  Speaker 2: I always say I risked my life to save a life,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for my daughter.
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  Speaker 3: Why boxing? Why did you, who brought up boxing to you?
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  Speaker 2: I always wanted to be a professional athlete. And when
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  Speaker 2: I was in, I went to a junior college. At
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  Speaker 2: that moment in time, I was doing some classes and
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  Speaker 2: stuff just to keep active and stuff like that and
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to give up. on all my dreams. But
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  Speaker 2: I remember having my daughter coming and me and my
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  Speaker 2: friend at the time, we was talking about what we
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  Speaker 2: want to do in another life and what are the
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  Speaker 2: things we was trying to do to get there. Because
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  Speaker 2: talk is cheap. You can always say what you want
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  Speaker 2: to do, but don't put no legs to it. It'll
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  Speaker 2: never go nowhere. So I told him I should start boxing. Instantly,
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  Speaker 2: he thought it was a great idea because of the
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  Speaker 2: reputation I built in the city and stuff like that. Like,
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  Speaker 2: Deontay don't bother nobody, but if you come with... to
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  Speaker 2: him with that energy, he all, like, I'm one, like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a PK, I'm a pastor's kid, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but my father, you know, everybody have a story, everybody,
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  Speaker 2: you know, most of the time people come from harsh places,
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  Speaker 2: rural places, and they change their lives, same with my father,
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  Speaker 2: you know, my father have done many different things out, but,
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  Speaker 2: you know, changed his life around, and the surrounding, and
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  Speaker 2: the things that he was, was in and stuff, and
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  Speaker 2: he became a godly man and got into the word
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I always tell people, I
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  Speaker 2: never looked for trouble, but trouble always found me. But
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  Speaker 2: when trouble found me, they were surprised because they would
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  Speaker 2: see this image and this figure that they felt like
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  Speaker 2: it was nothing. But then when I got a host
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  Speaker 2: of them, they realized this ain't what they really wanted.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a wolf in sheep's clothing. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: a surprise and it's always been like that. So, with
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  Speaker 2: that being said, I've always had a reputation of knocking
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  Speaker 2: some heads, you know, off their shoulders, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? But I was just quiet, just laid back dude.
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  Speaker 2: I never bothered anyone.
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  Speaker 3: Those are the ones you got to be sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Facts. That's facts. That is a fact.
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  Speaker 1: Those quiet people, when they blow, sometimes they're just a
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  Speaker 1: different animal.
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  Speaker 2: Because we, instead of talking and letting off all this
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  Speaker 2: steam or whatever... you balling it in. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying? Just imagine if a volcano had a top
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  Speaker 2: on it.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know you had lightning in your hands?
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  Speaker 2: I knew I was... You.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't get into many fights. Did you as a kid?
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  Speaker 2: I got into a hell of a lot of fights.
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  Speaker 2: I got into so many fights that I don't even
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  Speaker 2: remember some of the fights.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: My brother used to tell me, you don't remember? You
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  Speaker 2: would tell me that too.
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  Speaker 3: You don't remember that fight? I don't remember that one.
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  Speaker 3: Street fights.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was a lot of war fights.
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  Speaker 2: You know, during that time, it was good, though, because
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  Speaker 2: you ain't worried about guns and nothing like that.
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  Speaker 3: People come by.
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  Speaker 2: Retaliating if they did.
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  Speaker 3: Getting stabbed.
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  Speaker 2: If they did come by retaliating, it was probably with
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  Speaker 2: a king under there, their brothers or cousins trying to
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  Speaker 2: jump you.
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  Speaker 3: Was it like shorter guys trying to pick on you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't always tall. No? I only started...
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  Speaker 2: When did you shoot up? I shot up in the
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  Speaker 2: ninth grade, and then I shot up one more inch after...
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  Speaker 2: After the 12th grade. In the 9th grade, I was
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  Speaker 2: like 6'5.
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  Speaker 3: So, but what were you before the 9th grade? How
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  Speaker 3: tall were you?
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  Speaker 2: 5'10?
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  Speaker 3: Let's say I was.
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  Speaker 2: The only kid in the fifth grade that could dunk,
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: but I wasn't the tallest, though. That was crazy. I
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  Speaker 2: always had those hops. I was an athlete.
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  Speaker 3: Did you grow in one year or just the span
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  Speaker 3: of a.
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  Speaker 2: Couple of years? I think over the time of sixth grade,
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  Speaker 2: going into ninth grade, I started to grow. Because when
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  Speaker 2: I got into ninth grade, I was like already 6'5. 6'4, 6'4. Yeah, 6'5.
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  Speaker 3: Was your father tall?
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  Speaker 2: He's 6'6.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so you had height.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I already had it. And then after I graduated,
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  Speaker 2: I grew an extra year.
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you something. When you're growing like that,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just curious, like, you know, what's that like?
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  Speaker 1: Like, when you're expanding, because I was short, so, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to be a midget.
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  Speaker 2: Or some shit. Blessings coming on small packs.
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  Speaker 3: My father used to put me against the wall and
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  Speaker 3: be like, measure him, measure him, measure his ass. He'd say,
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  Speaker 3: you grew a half inch. Because my brother had all
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  Speaker 3: the height. He was like 6'1. They made it like
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  Speaker 3: he was your height. Like, he was a giant. Big John,
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  Speaker 3: Big John. I was like, I didn't care. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I said, I just, I didn't know if I was
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  Speaker 3: going to grow. I was just a small kid. But
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  Speaker 3: when you're growing like that, I mean, does your body,
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  Speaker 3: does it feel it?
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  Speaker 2: You don't even realize it. You don't realize it? It's
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: just like coming home. You know how you travel so much,
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  Speaker 2: then you come home, the kids look like they learned
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more and they got a little bit
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  Speaker 2: bigger as they're infants and they're growing and growing. And
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: then they grow up into children as you go. But
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  Speaker 2: even with myself, I never... Now, you don't notice those things.
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  Speaker 2: You really don't.
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  Speaker 3: But it takes a while for you to grow into
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  Speaker 3: that body, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Because weren't you awkward? My brother had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: accidents and things happened to him.
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  Speaker 2: Like what?
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  Speaker 3: He got hit by a car, broke his leg. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of shit happened to him.
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  Speaker 2: I broke many things. I got hit by a car.
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  Speaker 2: Thank God. I'm sorry. I witnessed my cousin. He still
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  Speaker 2: got the tire mark on his back to this day.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: It was weird.
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  Speaker 3: My mother thought something happened to him. We went to
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  Speaker 3: the other side of town. My cousin's out, there was
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: ambulances and my brother was on the couch crying. My
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  Speaker 3: mom had this mental telepathy, like something happened to John.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess he was getting his basketball and old
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  Speaker 1: guy like turned the corner and hit him.
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  Speaker 3: And back then, yeah, you know, like.
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  Speaker 2: It took off. Yeah, hit and run. Hit and run
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  Speaker 2: with my cousin too. Imagine that shit, hit and run.
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  Speaker 3: Like everybody stopped to let him get the kid.
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  Speaker 2: Right. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Old 80-year-old man with a fedora. My dad used to
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: always say, never get behind a guy with a fedora.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because look around, he's usually 95 years old. What the,
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: what are you doing on the road?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You see these people on
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: the road. Don't put me on the.
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  Speaker 1: Road if I make it that far in life, you know?
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  Speaker 1: They got no business and they usually have a fedora.
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Do you wear a fedora?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 3: Stay off the road. Stay off the road.
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  Speaker 2: Stay off the fucking road, man. So what age do
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  Speaker 2: you think it should be required for people to go
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: back and do a driver's license? You know, get their
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  Speaker 2: license and do a driver's test?
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  Speaker 3: That's a good question. I think it all, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it depends. But I think, you know, maybe... 75 maybe?
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  Speaker 3: Or 72 or something. Somewhere in the 70s. They should
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: check people out a little bit. Because you see some
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  Speaker 3: of these people on the.
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  Speaker 1: Road, man, and then you got to like, wow, they're
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  Speaker 1: still driving and shit? Because you just don't have the reflexes.
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  Speaker 3: I see it now. I got one good eye, one
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  Speaker 3: bad eye. I have one strong eye. And then I
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: got an eye. I did an implant in this eye.
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  Speaker 1: Because when I was acting, Like you were blurry to me,
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: so like I did this, I had early cataracts.
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  Speaker 3: I said, let me do the, let me get the
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: implant so I can see you now. So if I
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: go like that, you're blurry. I never did the other eye.
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: So like, you know, I should do the other eye
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: just so it bounces out.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, that stroke's still good, right? Yeah. Come on in.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: Stroke is all right. Anyone is used to it, but
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: I still give it my all.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Come on now.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: I still give it my all.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: That's right. That's right.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: You get somebody to bring you peace, you don't need much.
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: I know, man.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Give me one eye, give me one arm.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: One good eye.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Give me a leg that
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: I can detach on and off. I'll be good with that.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: Definitely, man.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: Hey, man, you know, we take these things for granted.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Because when you get older, man, you look in the
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: mirror and the mirror tells you shit.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: The other day, he put out a picture, man. Like, yeah,
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: I got a little belly, you know? But I was like.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Don't put out a picture with me when I look,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: you know, fatter. And the picture always makes you look
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: fatter than you are. And I'm with a dude like you.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: He's a wrestler, a friend of mine, in good shape, 6'5, 6'6.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: But you caught me from here. And he's like, he's giggling.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: He thinks it's funny. I said, no, it ain't funny when,
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: you know, you got pride. You don't want to see that. Well,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: lose some weight. I go, yeah, it's just the stomach.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: No, but I should lose some weight. I should lose
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: some weight.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: You think you gain more weight being single or married?
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Probably when you're married. Yeah, because, you know, you get
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: comfortable and shit like that. And for some reason, man,
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: I like having a little belly. Yeah, it feels like security.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Why do you think, you know how, why is this
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: the dynamic of this? You know how you grow up,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: high school and all that, you have all the good-looking
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: people in high school. Yeah, I remember them. But then
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: after they graduate, you know, on up in life, And
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: the ones that didn't look so good, that people found unattractive,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: they become the more attractive people. And the one that
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: was attractive become the ugly ducklings now. Overweight and everything.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Why do you think it's that?
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think because, you know, sometimes people just,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: they shoot their wad early. They shoot their load or
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: whatever you call it.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: They just, maybe they blossom too quick.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: And then other people that, you know, you were like, wow.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Look what she became.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: I had no idea. Or this guy was the popular guy,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: the popular girl. And they're like, that's him? That's her?
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I mean, I see a lot of
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: people like that. And I laugh and I'm like, oh,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't give me the time.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Right, you know what I mean?
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Now you people want to all say hi to me
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: and all this other shit.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I said, I always knew.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I said, I always knew I was going to be
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: a late bloomer. I always knew I was going to be,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: you know, somebody that got better with age. You know,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: because like for me, I mean, I didn't come into
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: my own to my 30s. And then my 30s, I
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I knew I was in my prime.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Come on, Wiz.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because in my 20s, I was kind of all
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: over the place, just trying to find myself.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like who I was, you know? But my 30s,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: I was like, I had it going on.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Man, I love my 30s. Yeah, it was the.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Greatest times of my life. Man, come on. Career-wise, personal-wise.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Just how attractive I felt just as a person.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Most definitely.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but in the 20s, I was whacked out, man.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: One time I thought I was dying from something.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: A lot of crazy shit. My dad passed away in
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: my 20s. Yeah, I'm not 20s, though.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: I think you always have a period where you go,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: that was my period. You probably feel that way as
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: a fighter, right? Where you go, man, in this window...
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: I was just, I mean, you know, you still.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Can do what you do, just, but like, it was
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: just like, wow, you know, you had that one time
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: where you felt like, man, I wish I could feel
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: like that again. I look back at those pictures and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I go, yeah, man. I go, yeah, I haven't aged bad.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: But I go, man, I saw a picture the other
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: day with me and my wife and I was like,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I had, I had my hair colored a little bit
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Nice looking kid.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: And I'm going, yeah, not bad. But I'm like, I'm
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: just looking at the periods, you know?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: You're reminiscing about the good old days.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and it's like nobody wants to get old, man.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: But, you know, you got to give in a little bit.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful thing. For me, I love age. I
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: love age. I'm 40. You're still a young man. I'm
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: still a young man. But I love each and every year.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: And you don't look much different.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I don't. Many people think I'm 28. Some, the lowest
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: is 26. And I tell people, the age is not
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: about your age. You know what I mean? It's your mindset.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: It's the mindset.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: You feel me? And it's not about the age of
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: you getting older. It's about you can't control that. But
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: what you can control is how you feel, what makes
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you feel good. Exercising, you know what I'm saying? Eating right.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: As we get older, that's what we're supposed to be
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: transforming into. Okay, I done did all this shit in
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: my younger years and stuff. Now it's time for the
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: take care of myself. Eating right. You know what I'm saying?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Take care of yourself.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: You don't realize that body, man.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: You know, you don't realize.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: For a lot of years, I just never realized, like, oh,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: what you're putting in that thing matters.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: It does. I mean, I just took it for granted.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: You know? Same as that. We all do that, though.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: You know what's going on?
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: And I had stomach issues, this, that, and people are like, Man,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: you got to learn how to eat. My brother used
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to say that to me.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I watched the way you ate. He said, it's not wrong.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I can't be eating 10
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Big Macs even though I love Big Macs.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you like a.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Big Mac, right? Well, I don't eat it no more. No,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: You know, like Floyd Mayweather. He was a freaking major. Like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: you saw him out there eating Big Macs and stuff.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: But he's exercising. You know what I mean?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Right. And that's the point. That's the key.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: You drink water?
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I drink a lot of water.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I don't like water. I got to force myself.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you like the little packs that you tear
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: off and then you put the flavors inside the water?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: They got some good products.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do the Crystal Light.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got the Crystal Light. They got other great
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: products better than that, too.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I do that because just to force myself to, yeah, because, man,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you got to drink water.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: You don't never realize that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I'm coming out with a flavor of water.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're coming out with one?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have to send you one. Yeah, all right.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I'll try it.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful. It's organic, all the nice organic stuff
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: in there, good for the health.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: How often do you eat a day? Twice a day?
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Three times a day?
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I eat three times a day every day. You know
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Unless I'm traveling. When I'm traveling and
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: it's on my own, you know, because I'm not a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: big eater, you know, I'll probably eat maybe one time
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: a day. You know what I mean? But when I'm
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: at home, when I have a chef and stuff like that,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: she cooks me three times a day. You know, breakfast, lunch,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and dinner. And when I'm in camp, breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: When you're in camp, what do you eat? What's your
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: diet like?
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I like baked stuff. I like things that you can
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: put in your body and that can digest very fast.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: That can digest quickly.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, baked chicken, pasta, fish. You know, we eat the steaks.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Gotta have the steaks as well. Potatoes, carbs, and stuff
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: How do you like your steak cooked?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Medium plus.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: That's what I say.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's medium plus.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: That's what I say. I say medium rare plus.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: A lot of these fools don't understand that shit.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: They bring it back raw. I said, didn't I say.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I said, didn't I say medium fucking rare? And they
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: bring it back, it's raw.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: That ain't medium rare plus. It should be pink. It
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: means I want it cooked but not overcooked.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Cooked, right, right.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: It's like Robert De Niro said in that movie, Raging Bull,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: famous movie, old movie. And he's eating at the beginning
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: of the movie and he says, you bring my steak,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: bring my steak.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: She goes, you want your steak? He goes, yeah, yeah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: He goes, bring it over, bring it over. Because don't
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: overcook it. Because you overcook it, it defeats its own purpose.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Right, most definitely.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Which is true.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's like, Once you cook it
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: too far, it's like rubber. You know, it's got to
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: leave a little pink, a little juice.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, most definitely.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Just like a burger.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: That flavor in there.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: You killed the burger. I'm like, you killed it. You
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: killed that hamburger.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: So how do you get your burgers cooked?
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I like it medium.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, medium.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Just off the broad thing. Yeah. It ain't too much.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like a grilled, you know, I like a...
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I like a hamburger, cheeseburger, you know, like flame, flame broiled.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, since there's no, like, set weight.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Right. Over 200 or whatever.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: How do you prefer? You like to be lighter or heavier?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: How do you feel going into a fight?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: That's a great question, you know. And just like styles
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: made fights, you know, there's the preference of a fighter.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: You know, all different, each fighter different things, different things
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: they believe in, different regiments they follow behind. You know
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: what I mean? It's just like with the myth of
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: having sex. You know what I mean? Some do and
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: some don't. You know what I mean?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: What do you believe? For me, all my career, I've
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: done what I believe what made me feel.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Great. I mean, I've had sex and stuff like that.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I'd have broke that me up so many times.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Right. Because sex relaxes you.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: It does. It gives me energy, relaxes me and stuff.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: But what's the myth behind, if I don't want to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: have sex, I need to stay strong?
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I want to say the legs and stuff like that
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: that make you weak and stuff.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: You think there's any truth to that? Or it's just
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: a mindset?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I think it depends on that person. Or the position
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: that they're using at that moment in time. You're trying
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to make love.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what if you feel sex makes you feel better?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: It relaxes you.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Whereas you're so bent up, but maybe it don't really
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: help you.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You go in there and
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: beat the competition up. Yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying have sex
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: five days a week.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Right. But it's so good for the body, especially in
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: camp and stuff like that or whatever.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Because it's exercise.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's exercise.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: That's exercise. You're burning calories.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It's one of the most highest calorie burners there is
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: in exercise. It's six. Because you're doing it. It's freely doing.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: You're freely doing it. And it's like time goes by
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: if you're not a fast one. You know what I mean?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Time goes by.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Man, if you can last. It's hard. But if you're
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: a quick shooter, you know.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: It's hard.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: That's why I tell these guys.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: You don't know how to make love.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: All right. It ain't just sticking it in. You know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: take your time. I'm telling you. Walk around the bed
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. You know? That's it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Put a performance on.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Come on now.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Don't just jump in.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Take your time.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: You know, people don't be romantic no more. Yeah, be romantic.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: There's no romantic.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: No foreplay anymore.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: No, that's what I mean. It's like, you know, we
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: talked about that. It's like even with marriage. It's like, oh,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: come on, let's go.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Well, come on. Don't turn me off. You know what
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I'm saying?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: You romantic? You romantic, huh?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I'm very romantic.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, me too.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Very romantic.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not one of these, you know. running gun people,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and you know, they want to do their business, get out.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not into that. I like the whole fantasy illusion
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of love making. I mean, that's just the final, that's
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the final thing. That's the final, you know, that's like
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the finality of something.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I like the whole journey.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: The journey is what, it's like even with acting, it's like, Yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: you see the final product. Okay, that's the finality, but
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: it was the doing of it that I dug. And
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, even lovemaking, like anything it might be,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: it's the doing of it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: It's so beautiful.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like, you know, when you're training, you're
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: doing all that stuff. That's the whole journey. And then,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: all right, you get in the fight. That's okay.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Ice on the cake.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: That's the easy part.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: You did all the work. The work is where you really,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: you know, either you love it or you don't love it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: You know, and if you don't love it, it's hard, right?
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: You know, when it feels like, when will you know
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: when it feels like time to say, hey, I don't
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: like this no more.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I'm done.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: When you don't love it. When you don't love it, right?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: You ain't loving it no more. Because as long as
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: you loving it, you know, who to say it's time
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to quit? You know what I mean?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: When you're passionate about something and you love something, they
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: say when you love something, it's not working. You know
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: what I mean? It's not working anyway. I agree. You
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? So that's why I think it's,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: you know, even hanging up the gloves for a lot
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: of fighters. You know what I mean? When you a fighter,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: it's just in you. It's in you and on you.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Like you just, no matter how old you get.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: It don't matter.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter at all. You know what I mean?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And that's why I take a lot of these guys'
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: time to just hang their glove up. You know what
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: That's why it's so hard, right?
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: And sometimes it ain't even all about the money. Because
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of fighters that's not making the big
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: dollars like that. But I love to whoop ass. I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: love to get in there and compete. I love the traveling.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I love the networking, meeting different people, understanding different cultures.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Without boxing, I would have never been able to travel
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the world the way I've done it. On my first plane,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: living in another state. You ever think like that?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: It's like if without boxing, like Deontay Wilder, like if
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I never got into acting, it's like Nick Totoro would
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: have been like, who knows what I would say to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the doorman.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: It's like without boxing, what would.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder, what would your life have been like? I mean,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: you ever imagine like that? Sometimes you do like, man,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I've thought about it. And I'm like, well, that didn't happen.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Because I always felt like there was something more for me.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Probably like you felt that way. Like there is something
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: more for Deontay.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Most definitely.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: You probably felt that, right?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It dwells on my mind here and there. I
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say all of them, but here and there, every
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: now and a while, you'll be like, damn. Like you said,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: you're in your life or your lifestyle of doing things,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: but you know your journey of coming up and what
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: it took to get through there, to get to where
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: you are. You're like, damn, what if this went wrong
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: or what if I was doing this? But I know
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: for sure if it wasn't me being an athlete, I
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: wouldn't even just say boxing. We would take boxing. If
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: it wasn't just being an athlete, football, basketball, just say
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't have my child and I just did, I
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: stayed in my city and whatever, and I made professional
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: in football or basketball. So if I wasn't an athlete,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: because that was my whole focus and goal of being
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: an athlete, that's all I wanted to be, a professional athlete. But,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: you know... If that didn't happen for me, I would
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: have been in the military. I would have been a
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: special ops Navy SEAL.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: That was my thing. I loved it. Oh, yeah? I
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: loved it. Yeah, I got a best friend that's a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: special ops Navy SEAL. He's retired now.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got cut out for that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Ooh, man.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: You think you could have been cut out for something
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: like that?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, most definitely. Really? Most definitely. One thing my
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: daddy taught me and my brother to have a hard
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: work ethic. You know, nothing is going to be given
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: to you. Nothing is free. You know, we're from the country.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: We had to work with our hands and feet. We
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: had to create things with our mind.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: You consider yourself a country boy?
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I love it. But
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: you got to love where you're from.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: You got to claim it and.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Own it and love where you're from. I'm a country
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: boy all the way. From the booty to the toot it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: From the foot to the head. You know what I mean?
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And I love it. I love where I'm from and
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I love representing. who the man that I am, you
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Alabama, is that where it is?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Alabama, Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Tuscaloosa.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Big college football, huh?
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Big Alabama football. But I always tell people, it's not
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: really necessarily where you're from. It's where you're trying to go.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: It's where this wants you to go. Because you can
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: be from a place that doesn't mean you have the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: heart of what that place has to offer. You know
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: what I mean? You have to build up certain things,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And just because I'm from
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Alabama doesn't mean a lot of different things. You know
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: what I mean? But I am a man that I
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: love where I'm from. Yeah. We can't decide or choose
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: where we're from or what parents we come from. No.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: You know, certain religions may go on and stuff like that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: You a religious guy? I am. You know what I mean?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I'm a PK. So I was born into the church.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: My father used to brag about, man, it was 10 years.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Y'all ain't missed church in 10 years. In 10 years, like, shit.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: That's a long time, but, you know, we had a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: great upbringing. We was poor, but we grew up with
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of love. You understand me?
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: But then, you know, if you grew up with love,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: you may not have money, but you grew up rich
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: in a way.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Like, we didn't have money either, but there was always food,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and there was a lot of great people.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Laughter.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of fun.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Good memories. You know what I mean?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: And the people that were around, like, you can't find
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: those people.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: You could count on them. You know what I mean?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: And I think, like, I didn't know I was rich,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: but I wasn't rich with money, but... I was rich
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: in so many other ways that made me like who
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I am. Watching those people. Because I always feel like
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I'm a cheap replica. I just think I'm a cheap
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: replica of those. Like this guy, he's even a cheaper replica.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: But it's not his fault. What was the best camp
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: of your career? What do you think?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Man, the best. camp of my career. The best camp
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: of me or the best camp that I've ever been
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: in or went to. Whether it was mine or someone else.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, just your camp and then it carried over
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: into the fight. Is there one that stands out?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Man. I think the best camp for me is, ooh,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: that's a good question, too. That's a good question because
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: all of them are different. And I'm trying to go
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: back into how I'm, you know, instead of what was
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: going on, I'm trying to go into how I was
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: feeling at that moment in time. And, man.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you another one. Have you had
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: a camp where it was like, A real struggle?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: You know, that's a tough one to see the best
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: camp I've ever had because, like I said.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: It's... Because they're all different.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: They're all different. They all bring different excitement, different things.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: No one camp is the same. Right. But we're all
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: still working towards one goal, though.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: If it makes sense. Nothing is the same, but it's
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: still the same one goal. So, oh, man. I don't
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: think we had enough time for me to sit and
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: dwell on that because there's a lot of factors that
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: may have to go in. of myself, how I felt,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: who was there at that time, what we was doing
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I'm a big energy person, you
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? So I go out for that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: But a camp that I didn't feel well in, I
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: didn't feel well in and I performed very well was
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the Luis Ortiz fight, believe it or not. Majority of
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: my fights I've always been sick or something, especially when
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: going to cold places, cold, flus and stuff.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: You get sick easy?
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I do. I do. I know. But at this moment
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: in time, I think I done built it up because
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: of the things that I put in my body now.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I used to be a weak immune system. I used
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to have, but at this moment, I think I done
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: built it. It's pretty strong. I haven't been sick in
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: a long time.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: You had that as a kid?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: And I'm a cow.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Because I was that way too. Very weak immune system.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Do you have an opinion on the state of boxing
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: today where it's at?
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: You know, what it was and what it is today.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think it's, what needs to
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: happen in the game? Because it seems like it's lost a.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Lot of, I mean, it's starting to, you know, Ryan
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Garcia is like popping up a little bit.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, that's also another good question, you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: and you look at the landscape of boxing as a whole,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: you know, it's, you know, And I can only speak
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: from my point of view. I'm not a guy that
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: always go into all the fights or keeping up with
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: all the fights going on. I have different fights that
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I hear about that other people tell me about. I
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: got so much of the stuff that goes on. When
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I'm out of boxing, I'm out of there. I'm not
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: like a historian. I'm not the one that just sit
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: there and watch all the stuff. So with that being said,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I'm glad that I'm on this side where I am
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: because I'm like a casual... I'm like a casual fan
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: at this moment in time. You know what I mean?
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I'm in it, but I'm not in it. I'm deep
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: into boxing. I know a lot of stuff. I'm at
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: the back door of boxing. But when I'm not in boxing,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not in it. I'm away from it. It's the
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: yin and the yang of me. When I'm in it,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I'm all zoned in. All my focus is in it.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: When I'm out, I'm far away from it. I don't
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: know what's going on. So when I get my perspective
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: for what I see now, it's like me being Someone
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: looking in a boxing or a casual fan speaking. And
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: by me viewing for my casual span, my casual fan
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: of view, it's not exciting. I don't see the excitement
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: like it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I agree with you.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: It's kind of boring right now.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: It is. It really is.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of sports have gotten to me very,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: very boring.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: And boxing.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: has lost its sort of like... It misses something.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: For example, when you and Fury fought, there was excitement
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: in the air. Whatever it was, there was a buzz.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: You could wait. Throughout my life, big fights, that's one
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: of them that stood out.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Other fights were like when I was a kid, Leonard
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: and Durant, it stood out. I mean, Ali Frazier.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: The fights that you couldn't go to sleep. You just
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: can't wait.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: You couldn't wait to see these guys together in the ring.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: And that's just not there right now.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: It's just not there.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: It was around a little bit when Pacquiao and Mayweather
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: were like floating around. And now it's like just Showtime's gone.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: HBO's gone.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know where it's at. I don't know the
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: state of my mind. I've become a UFC fan. I'm
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: sad in a way because I love the purity of boxing.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: But you know what it is. We don't understand, but
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: we understand. As far as me... If I get into
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: a deeper conversation of it all, I wouldn't be me
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: if I don't be Mr. To This Day. You understand me?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And to look at everything, look at all the excitement
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: of different fighters that said that brought the excitement, that
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: brought the feeling of that and stuff like that. They
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: all had a storyline. They all, you know what I mean?
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: It was some type of controversy.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: And that's what it's missing. It's missing some type of
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: controversy or something. You know what I mean? Right, right. And,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: you know, race always play a great big part in
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: controversial things. You know, especially when they're dealing with competition.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what we're missing, the controversial things.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the great stories, the controversy between the sides, the rivals.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Whatever reason. Yeah.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: And it's that way in a lot of sports now, too. Like,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: I'm a big, big baseball fan.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Huge.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: But, like, lately, I can't get as excited because I
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: feel like it's kind of boring. I feel like something's missing.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah. My grandma was a big baseball fan.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, it's just, like, I don't, it does
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: not have the juice. The guys, the people are different.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: There's so many rules.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Everybody's so fucking courteous and nice.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: And everybody's like so conservative. And I'm like, you know, like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: fuck that. You know what I mean?
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I come to win, man.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I was like here in the casino last night. My
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: wife said, well, you're going to get mad. You lose
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: on 50 bucks. Because it's not about the money.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I'm here to win.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I want to win. And when my team loses... I lose.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like when they fail, I fail. Because I'm
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: emotionally invested in them. And if I can't get emotionally invested, then.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Why am I watching?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Why do I watch anything? I got to be invested.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Because if I'm not, I'm like, maybe these other people
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: can go through life like that.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I can't do it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: That ain't me, you know what I mean? I need
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: some kind of juice. And boxing, I think, along with baseball,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: it's lacking that. It's lacking that kind of like, that
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: soul that, like you said, whatever it is, the stories,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the people, they need to get that back.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: You need the people.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: You need the people. Just by you describing these things,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: because I've been there, I've seen where it could be
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: and how it was exciting. Even the money started growing,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: the excitement for the people started growing. It's like when
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: you're in it and you're seeing it rise, you're like, oh,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: this shit feels so good. Like, this is crazy. You
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Like he said with you and Fury, it was like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: it was exciting.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: It was two big dudes.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: You know, and it was the contrast and the slugger
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and the boxer. And it was like, man, you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, I like both guys.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: You know, but you were interested.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, most definitely.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: You know, people were, I was there in the audience
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and it was like, It's just not the same right now, man.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: It's not the same. I just feel like a lot
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: of buffoons, there's a lot of just like kind of
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: watered-down product. And I hope, I mean, I hope it'll
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: have a, I'm sure it will have a rebirth at
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: some point.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you, because this is one of the
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: questions that's always asked to me. I don't think, I
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: don't know about all other fighters, but I know this one.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Do you think... Um, you know, the, um, the streamers
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and people that do boxing, does it help boxing or
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: does it, does it hurt it? You know, you know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: all the stream boxing, the celebrity boxing and stuff.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I think in a way it sort of like cheapens it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: You've got to hold it to a higher standard. You've
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: got to have.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: HBO was doing it and we set the bar high.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Now you've got all these people, all these... all these opinions.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Making a mockery.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're making a mockery. Even like with baseball, all
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: these clowns, they all have a show, they all have
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: a voice. You know, like when I was, there's a standard.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: There was the game of the week, man. That was
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: what we waited to watch, the game of the week.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: With guys that, you know, it was like, it was classy.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: It had some prestige. Now, it's too much shit.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: It's 24-7, ESPN, all this crap. And it's, this is
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: the result of all that stuff.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: That there's so much that you've now lost the specialness of.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: What boxing was when it was won.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Our wide world of sports or however, you had to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: go close circuit to see a fight. You know, it
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: was a big, it was an event. You know, watching
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the game was a big deal. Now, 24-7, it's like
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: fast food.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just, it's... To hear your roar and
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: to see your excitement about how it was and, you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: to see it like that, it makes me say, I'm like, damn,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: because I can see your passion. From it, you know
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like even now the baseball playoffs are coming up, right?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I got the division series. Then if I get out
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: of the stupid division series, I may get to the
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: next series.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: It's like, man, you know, you got to win your division. Yes.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: You got to win your division. Then if you won
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: your division, you won something. And there was one round
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: before you won. got to, you know, it wasn't so much,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: And it was like, man, it just had something, you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: there was something in the air that is just.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Not the same.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I said, man, it's crazy because I can feel it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I can see it. I got that passion. And you're like,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: it makes you a little sad, though, for sure.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: It does make me sad.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Do you think having so many belts takes away from
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: that as well? Oh, yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I think that's a joke.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: All those belts, there should be one belt, and that's it.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: There should not be this guy has a belt, that
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: guy has a belt. There's only one heavyweight champion.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: There's one middleweight champion.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: One face.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one face.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: You can't have multiple belts, multiple belts. You got divisions.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: That's why you have a product, what you have. When
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: you have all that, you're going to have some sort
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: of disarray.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: They say, because we have to pay to be champions.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: You got a fee you have to pay every time
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: you defend the belt. It's a sanctioning fee. They say
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the sanctioning fee will depend on what organization you're talking about.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: They say that the fees goes to charity and all that. Really?
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It ain't up your choice
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: of charity, though, so just know it's going to charity.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: You have to pay a fee even if you win?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: You got to pay a fee. Wow. You understand me?
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: And so from a boxing fan, what would you think that,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, what do you think that
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: money is distributed through, though? Do y'all take it as
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: it goes to charity? No.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Well, the president of the WBC needs a first-class ticket
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: to watch Canelo and Crawford.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: It's just like you've got to pay a toll, right?
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: You've got to pay a toll to go into Manhattan.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: You've got to pay a toll.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Now, it was for the roads that were built. Those
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: roads are paid for.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: They're all paid for, thousands. All that money is going
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: to somewhere, some crook. Somebody's robbing something. They get rich
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: and richer. Just to go over the bridge is.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: $ 1, 000.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not just exaggerating, but I'm just saying. Just to
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: come into the city now is a fortune. Who's getting
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: that money?
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Where is that money going? We don't know.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: We don't know shit. but what they tell us, you know?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: And so I don't believe anything anymore.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I really don't.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get into like being conspiracy and
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: all that other shit, but I just like, I just
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: think we're like lied to.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: It's like everything is nothing. You don't even know what
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: the truth is anymore.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. And that's scary.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: It is scary.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: You know, and I bring that up because, you know,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: you got Zufa. What do you think of Zufa? You know...
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I know both guys and stuff like that. They've done
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: great jobs in their profession of what they've done. Dana
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: with the UFC, Turkey with boxing and they coming together,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: making things happen. I mean, only the future can tell.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know too much personally about those guys. I've
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: only worked with Turkey. I've never worked with Dana. Dana's
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: crossing over trying to get into the boxing and things
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: or whatever.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I like Dana. I think he's a straight shooter.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, people can say whatever they want
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: to say, but he makes the fights that the people want.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: He says what he fucking feels. You know, I wish
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: in baseball we had a commissioner like that. So from
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: that point of view, I think Dana White is a,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: he's refreshing.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: You got Turkey. He wants to see the great fight.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Look what they came in and try to make all
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: the dream fights happen. You know, so you got two
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: guys that want to make the great fight that people
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: want to see happen. So this could really be a
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: great thing. You know, it's a lot of other issues
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: that's going on about the Muhammad Ali Act and stuff
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: like that. You know what I mean? So, you know, but,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: you know, we see these, you know, we definitely need
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: the networks, the networks. We need the promotion companies. We
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: need people to come together and make big fights happen.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Bring the prestige back. You know what I mean?
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Bring it back.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Bring it back.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: It never should have left like HBO or even Showtime
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: did a good job.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: It gave it some class. Boxing is still boxing. It's
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: been around a thousand years.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: They're never going to kill it. It's just that right now,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: it needs a little bit of a facelift.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: It needs some new people to take the horn and
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: get people more excited by it again.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Another thing I think kills it a lot, we don't
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: have an amateur program for the Americans no more.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't hear too many Americans. The Americans
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: is always the, you know.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Foreign guys.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: The foreign guys. Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: They're not developing, you're saying.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: There you go. There you go. Because you got the
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Cuban guys. They got 300, damn near 400 amateur bouts. Yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: On their career. You know what I mean? You got
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: the Russians. You know what I mean? You got a
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: lot of other guys that developed and got all these pedigrees.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: The Italians. You know what I mean? Yeah. with all
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: these different pedigrees and, you know.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Does anybody excites you in boxing today?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Anybody that you find exciting that you're like, oh wow,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I'd like to watch, you know, if he's fighting, I
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: want to.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Want to see? Yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I like David Benavidez though.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I mean. Yeah, he's pretty good. I like David. He's
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: pretty darn good. Isn't he?
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: I do too.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I like David.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just, there's nobody that could.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: When I think about a name, like you said, because
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: like I said, I'm an energy guy. I'm a feeling guy.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm going off a feeling. What name? Boom. It's
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of other guys. Don't get me wrong. You
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? I probably can't, you know, my mindset.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like him too.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: But David, when David Benavidez, when he's like, you know
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: He hasn't had that dream match because there's been nobody
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: to really challenge him.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I would have liked to see the Canelo in here.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I just think he was too.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Big for him.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, Canelo, not that big of a guy, really.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: He barely was a middleweight.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Who would you like to see him against, though?
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Who, Benavidez?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Would he have to go up in weight? He had
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: to cruiser right now, though.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Could you see him in heavyweight?
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: No.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: No, not heavy?
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Too big.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Just a cruiser?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think maybe in the old days he could
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: have fought a guy 220.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, no, I wouldn't want to see him
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: in heavyweight. I wouldn't want to see that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: But I wish there was somebody that was, say, like
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: a 168er. That could, you know, maybe go into whatever
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: he's fighting, 175, whatever.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Fight him. Let's wrap this thing up. I need Joshua
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: to stop ducking you.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: And if you're listening, Anthony, stop being a pussy.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: All right? Let's go.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Fight this man.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: He's been here a long time waiting you. Waiting like
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: a gentleman. Let's get it done before it's too fucking late.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Enough with this UK bullshit.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Let's go, baby.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Fight this man. He's ready to go.