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Ed Gein: The Worst Interior Decorator of All Time · When Killers Get Caught with Brittany Ransom

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  Everybody in serial killer country.
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  My name is Brittany. Ransom, and my name is Brian jr.
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  And this is when Killers get caught a podcast devoted to deep
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  dives, into the lives. And psyches of the Eller's, we
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  love to learn about each week. Brian, I find a True Crime Story
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  that resonated with us and I will discuss one well-known or
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  lesser known killer go deep into their childhood lies
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  methodology, and most importantly how they got caught,
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  and then we get a little spooky and we'll learn something about
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  Cryptids or the supernatural with Brian.
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  Ye never know what to say. That's me.
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  Yes, that's me. But yeah, so I guess it's just
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  Exactly. Lady.
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  Hey, but either way, this weekend, true cry, I happened to
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  come across a video of the New York Post about a woman who, how
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  do I explain this? So she got arrested first, we'll
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  explain that part. First, she got arrested for
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  like, oh, here we go. So her name is Jessica Boomer
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  shine and this happen In Ohio and she was arrested for
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  breaking into an 85 year old home and assaulting him at
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  gunpoint. And so she's in Dayton Ohio and
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  like, the booking area. And so there's a video.
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  The video is Hershey while she's waiting for booking.
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  I don't know why she thought this would work, but she stands
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  up on her chair and tries to climb into the ceiling and her
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  video camera. Yes, there is a, this video
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  footage. Okay.
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  So you guys CTU. So going on.
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  Okay? And she, like, wriggles through
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  the ceiling, but like, is I always say this to people all
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  the time. It's not like the movies.
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  Those drop ceilings cannot, hold people wait.
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  Oh no. And so, she immediately falls
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  back down. As soon as she gets up, like,
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  they can barely. I bet they couldn't even hold my
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  weight. And so on top of facing, you
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  know, armed robbery charges and assaulting an 85 year old man.
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  She's now facing charges for For trying to escape prison that she
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  hadn't even gotten into yet, my God and destruction of property
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  for ruining their ceiling. In central booking girl, you
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  just you should just sit in your seat.
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  She's looking, she's a little bruised in the face when I saw
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  her like, well, you know, from the filigree, I think she was
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  like a lot falls down and then she's like, dangling, so yeah,
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  you can look it up. Online.
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  Her name is Jessica Boomer shine and poor Jessica, no more.
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  Jessica other fault. People are Not the smartest
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  things don't work out the way movie.
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  No, no, no. But that was the one that I saw
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  and I just chuckled for entirely too long time.
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  Hilarious. Hey, Mission possible.
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  Yeah, Mission Impossible. That's true impossible.
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  You going to get out of prison? Bam.
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  Like what? Like and and like it's not even
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  like because when I first saw like, you know, apparent
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  jailbreak comes crashing down. I thought maybe she was in
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  prison and she had orchestrated some sort of a Prison Break.
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  Break. She was barely in.
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  She had just gotten arrested in the booking section.
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  Oh my goodness. Well, yeah.
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  And then she like a foul on like a trashcan.
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  It was just totally like you. You comedy?
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  You poor stupid idiot. That's really what you got to
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  say you poor idiot. Oh goodness, okay.
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  Well hey guess what what? I got a story from PA.
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  Oh good, I love this. One comes from Lackawanna
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  County. I couldn't point that out on a
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  map. I think it's East Northeast from
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  I think Northeast from I think it's like Eastern.
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  So like heading towards New York, I think it's heading
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  towards like Like want to, like, I want to come on.
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  I know where that's at. I think I've driven by their
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  sounds familiar but I couldn't pull a map.
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  I think it's around. The area has to be running are
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  anyway. Headline reads, police break up
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  exorcism at p8 Hometown about 10 times across all of my
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  Pennsylvanian groups even in my local community like
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  neighborhood group. This was posted, I found this
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  was, this is actually opposed to in pain live.
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  So it's been everywhere. All weekend.
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  End. I I've been holding on to this.
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  I was like, I saw it. It was like, saving you for
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  Monday. I'm trying to like look at the
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  map right now. Where are you?
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  But it happened in Lackawanna. I didn't see where it happened.
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  So it says, police and Lackawanna County broke up an
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  exorcism in the lumber aisle of a home improvement store Monday.
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  It was a Home Depot. So this was last Monday of the
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  24th. Yeah, it was a Home Depot.
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  So it says, right I guess. So it's not far from Scranton.
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  Yes. Like I said, Northeastern
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  Everybody knows screen. Yeah, the life of City.
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  Yes, the whole office Electric City Electric City.
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  They know is the electric city. Nothing.
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  Going on his grain. Oh my God, I'm sorry, I'm such a
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  filly snob, I'm so sorry terrible.
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  I only love Philadelphia and I'm sad.
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  I'm not there now. He gotta get some respect this
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  great and just a little bit. I want to go back.
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  Look for substrate and I know no to Philly.
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  It says details of scares. What was actually going on
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  inside the Home Depot for what? Okay.
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  Did they say why they were doing the exorcism?
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  It says for bed. It said it.
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  Well, it says they were the police came.
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  They scored people out for bad behavior.
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  It was because of the trees. Yes, yes, yes, it's trying to
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  exorcism Spirits out. The exorcism was held for the
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  trees. I had to turn into Lumber.
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  Yep. Beautiful, yeah.
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  That's what I think of when I think of Pennsylvania that sort
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  of weirdness. I don't even know how that would
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  work. I've seen exorcisms before.
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  Well, you know, you know, movies.
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  Move Emily Rose. And well, I was thinking like,
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  what? Rosewood level of Rosewood Emily
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  Rose? Would you go?
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  Oh my God, but I just don't know how to work out.
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  You drove a holy water onto the lumber.
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  Yep, it's been everywhere. Like, that's crazy.
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  Um, yeah. So this easy but it definitely,
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  I'd like, I definitely did see an article from Philadelphia
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  that said it was Home Depot. Definitely Home Depot is what it
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  says, it says, 3. 06 comers Boulevard at 3:26 p.m. comers
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  move. Our at Home Depot.
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  Yeah. Well you know, 3 p.m. is the
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  witching hour, according to the spook it's 3:30 a.m. they had to
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  be 3:30 a.m. It could have been 3:30 p.m. oh
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  my goodness, listen 333, that's when the demons come out 12
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  afternoon and in the morning. But we're the trees haunting
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  Lindsey Graham's, you kids get off of school because that is
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  what the demons get out. This is true.
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  Now that makes a lot of sense now.
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  Anyway, we're that. It doesn't say if the trees if
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  they thought the trees were haunting the Home Depot or what
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  is that mean? I could assume one would think,
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  if you think that everything has a spirit.
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  Maybe everything is haunting everything.
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  Yeah, I guess, maybe he wanted to release his spirits.
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  The tree Spirit I'm even is haunting me.
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  Oh my God! The walls are made of wood
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  aren't they? Inside my drawer?
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  Listen. This building is not me that
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  there's gotta be something in here.
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  You think it's boring? Yeah, but that's about it.
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  But send the wall show enough are not concrete because I can
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  hear everything that's true. Somebody's upstairs.
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  They're made out of paper. I can hear that hammer.
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  So it wasn't made out of paper. So there you go.
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  I don't complain because I feel like if you live in an apartment
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  you just got to live with that stuff.
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  That's true. It's true.
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  You do you have not earned the right of privacy?
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  Um, two more things it says closed. 200 comments on the post
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  LG have begged for more details. They're not give me more details
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  and then it says there's no indication incident had anything
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  to do with the price of lumber. So wow.
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  And it says, according to reports, no charges have been
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  filed at this time. So I just want to know what that
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  looked like, same. I just want to like, who was
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  there working at Home Depot and they like, turn the aisle taken
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  like, well, Paula and James who are redoing their R bathroom
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  into the hole and there's just a bunch of people in capes.
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  I just want to see someone posted ticks talk about because
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  I know there's one out there has to be a video of it out there.
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  Home Depot employees, come on. Help me out.
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  I want to watch some videos. Well, the did you see the
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  original Facebook post? Because what it was, it was a
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  list of all of the criminal activity that happened on June
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  21st. So it was like, you know, 12
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  a.m. we were looking for a juvenile who was out when they
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  weren't supposed to be and to 15 assault.
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  Out to 58. Looking for the same people who
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  saw the people earlier. God, 8:13 a.m. debris in the
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  roadway 823 suspicious person on this blog, 836 Dollar, Tree lot
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  for a dog waste complaint also is Lackawanna that free from
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  crime that you call. When you see poop, it's great
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  and we know it's great and it's up in Reading area, I'm not sure
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  but yeah there was a traffic stop traffic stop welfare check
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  on a person. And then, all of a sudden, it
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  gets 2326 disorderly. People having an exorcism in the
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  lumber aisle for dead tree, they were escorted out of the
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  building. And what happened was somebody
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  circled that and it got posted in my had to be Pennsylvania,
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  group, and people were like, I don't even care about the rest
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  of the day kids. Someone please give us more
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  details about this. That's all I do.
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  What I want more details about this exorcism.
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  I need to know what the hell. Yeah.
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  You know what, those someone that I says, why would someone
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  call the police for dog poop in a parking lot?
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  So once it's probably because somebody stepped in when they
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  were getting out of her car, it was right next to where they go,
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  like are But who knows they have II?
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  That's been the talk of Pennsylvania which is let you
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  know what's going on, Pennsylvania?
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  Not much happening saying. This is where we are.
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  Y'all pennsatucky is still pennsatucky.
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  ones. but, That said I've been kind of fixated on one of the
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  big time. Okay who doesn't have that many
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  murders under his belt and it's a hotly debated topic of that
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  whether he's a serial killer or not because of the number of
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  kills Who do you think I'm talking about?
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  I don't know, thinking racking my brain over here.
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  I don't know, Tommy, well, I'll give you a hint.
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  He his like story is the backstory for some very iconic
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  horror movies. Psycho Texas, Chainsaw Silence
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  of the Lambs. So anybody else who's listening
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  and like, probably banging your head on your car stealing, I
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  will shut up again and so to a piece of our fans who keep
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  wanting to know what my opinion, on some of the Big Ten are and
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  also to satisfy my brains need to like mull over him for the
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  last couple of weeks. I decided that we were going to
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  talk about. Again, like I said, he inspired
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  psycho because of the inappropriate relationship.
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  He had with his mother, Texas Chainsaw Massacre because of the
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  whole wearing people skin and so on The limbs because also, the
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  wearing people skin. Yeah, I'm sure many of you
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  listening, know a lot about him, but I do hope you learned
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  something new because this is going to be more at.
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  This is heavier into the people who raised him and his family
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  long before he became the, the body snatcher that we know of
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  where the the Butcher of Plainfield But yeah, a lot of
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  this, what we're more, what started me on the rabbit hole
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  here is a book called deviant the Shocking, True Story of Ed
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  Gein. The original Psycho by Harold,
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  Schechter, and that's where a lot.
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  I found a lot of the history of his family.
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  Hmm. Okay.
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  So before we talk about Edward Theodore game or game game, I
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  don't know. It's a German name.
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  Let's talk a little bit about the family.
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  He was born into and how I would say it almost seemed like his
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  family started in tragedy. So we're checking 1879.
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  George Keen is a little boy. He's only 3 years old.
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  His family has a farm on Coon Valley Wisconsin, which is about
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  15 miles outside of La Crosse. Wisconsin, George's mother,
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  father, and older sister get into their horse-drawn carriage.
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  They set out to go to town and they all died.
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  Well, sounds like Jojo, the family got caught in a flash
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  flood JoJo, borrows from a lot of history, but the family got
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  caught in a flash flood while they were trying to cross the
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  Mississippi River, which I didn't realize extends across
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  all of America and George was orphaned at 3 years old.
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  He was taken in by his maternal, grandparents, who lived in an
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  ear at a nearby Farm. There aren't a whole lot of
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  details about his life here, especially since it was 1800s.
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  Midwest, orphans are actually really common in history back
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  then because of how hard life was.
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  Yeah, okay. Outside of his family dying when
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  he was a child, he lived a very mundane and kind of normal early
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  life. He went to elementary school.
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  He began an apprenticeship at a local blacksmith.
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  He did that in his twenties. Until he decided that Country
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  Life wasn't really for him and he moved to the nearest like
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  bigger city. Another common aspect of both
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  adolescents than and now we all turn, you know, 18 and want to
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  like run away very true. That's not what I did.
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  I left here when lived in Philadelphia from a decade but
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  George got. As far as La Crosse, he was a
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  Drifter who couldn't really keep a job.
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  He sold insurance, he tried to Apprentice as a carpenter, he
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  worked at a Tannery, he worked at the city power plan.
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  He got a job working on. Chicago, Milwaukee, and st.
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  Paul, Railway back, when there were just like a couple of
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  routes, both of my sources mentioned that.
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  During this time, he picked up a mighty, big drinking habit, like
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  not just, but like, all of the sources reference, the fact that
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  while when he moved it across, he picked up the bottle, he
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  liked to drink, he liked the sauce.
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  Hayes, General Schedule was go to work.
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  Make his day right? Hit the saloon.
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  End it all. I mean.
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  He didn't have any other responsibilities, he's that he's
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  go home and feel kind of bad about himself, which I got to
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  tell you. There's a song of prompted by my
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  Tick-Tock that was just like, why do I feel bad?
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  You only sleep four hours a week know that.
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  Is it gonna sleep four hours a night?
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  I was like, why is this person? Yeah, that's me on the internet.
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  Yeah, that'd be me. It was like she was like, I feel
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  terrible. You eat terribly and I was just
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  like, buddy, no. I'll call me out.
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  Why is it so loud? but, I didn't, it probably
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  wasn't helping his mental health and feelings.
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  Yeah, no, I mean, alcoholism somehow during this time, he
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  manages to find a woman, the woman that he would marry.
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  And her name was Augusta. She's from a large family, whose
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  patriarch had emigrated here in 1970 from Germany.
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  They settled in La Crosse immediately and then George
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  Augustus met in 1899, Georgia, 24.
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  And Augusta was 19 and Augusta was described in so many
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  different things. As a thick-set, buxom woman with
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  a face permanently fixed, in a look of fierce determination and
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  self-assurance. So she was a boss.
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  She had a boss looking. She was a thick thick lady with
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  a boss attitude. Yeah.
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  Apparently and apparently George thought that was quite lovely.
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  I mean, who doesn't mean? She's also very religiously
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  though extremely so never mind like she really thought the
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  modern world was very immoral. She is raised um what her family
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  called like Old World values and she did not like the looseness
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  of the youth. And she was exactly like her dad
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  who was a very strict disciplinarian, who thought that
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  their way beliefs were the only way that one could be.
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  Now I haven't really described what George look like but he's
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  described as being a strong Simple Man.
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  Reserved dignified he and Augusta were both Lutheran and
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  he absolutely hit his alcoholism from her of course I mean
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  because that goes Super against being religious.
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  But George found her personality be quite impressive.
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  She always handled things she had the family that he wished
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  he'd always had and Augusta and never really been sought after
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  by men. So I think she was very
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  flattered by the attention and she felt that they shared the
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  same values because they were Christian.
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  He they got married a few months later on, December, 4th 1899.
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  And that's kind of the beginning of the end of that fairy tale.
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  That's it. Nothing.
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  Well, it gets bad. The good part ends.
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  At that part, that's just the way they were both or tending to
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  be the best versions of themselves.
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  That's a good part of my God. Okay, well, Augusta realizes
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  very quickly that she's connected to a man who is
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  unreliable financially and she isn't too happy with the drink.
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  Hmm, to try and keep the household running, she kind of
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  leaned into her worst traits becoming more, like hard and
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  more rigid and more intolerant. Because for her, she was like
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  stuck with kind of like a worthless schmuck who couldn't
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  keep a job and had no ambition. It responded to her behavior
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  with withdrawing into himself and refusing to speak at all
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  when he was home. Oh, sometimes he'd come back
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  from the bar, they get into a fight, he'd hit her.
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  Okay, I'm not sure why they thought a child would fix their
• 22:28
  relationship. A lot of people do, but they
• 22:31
  decided they were going to do it and so they had a baby boy.
• 22:35
  January 17th 1902, his name is Henry.
• 22:39
  And Henry didn't have, well, I'll say this early on Henry,
• 22:44
  didn't have a great life and he died very, very young.
• 22:47
  No. But there were a lot of weird
• 22:49
  deaths around this family and I'll get into those little bit
• 22:52
  later. Augusta didn't feel all that
• 22:55
  close to her first child and she figured it was because he was a
• 22:59
  boy So she decided she was like, I guess I'll just put up with
• 23:03
  sex with my husband until she gets pregnant a second time.
• 23:07
  Oh my God. That's giving birth to Edward
• 23:09
  Theodore game. Another boys though, August 27th
• 23:13
  1906 and I was gonna be the last one because she wasn't gonna do
• 23:18
  this no more. What are you just gonna treat
• 23:21
  your kids just poorly? Well, you're one came out to be
• 23:25
  a mad dad, this episode sir, I hate this.
• 23:31
  Okay, so I guess was pretty upset.
• 23:32
  She didn't have a girl, but she decided if I'm going to have two
• 23:35
  boys, I'm going to raise them to be better than their father and
• 23:39
  better than most men. There you go.
• 23:41
  That's what you supposed to do. But I guess it gets worse.
• 23:45
  It's bad. Well, George is struggling to
• 23:48
  find work after the boys. Both boys are born.
• 23:51
  And Augusta is like, listen, both of my brothers are
• 23:54
  Merchants, you could just become an entrepreneur and like I think
• 23:59
  as you and I both know not, everyone is cut out for that
• 24:01
  life. See see?
• 24:06
  So she thought though, that there was no way that he could
• 24:08
  ruin this because like it's he's working for himself, he makes
• 24:11
  money, he keeps the money but he just didn't have the motivation
• 24:15
  for anything and you can tell in the records because there's a
• 24:20
  lacrosse city directory. And in 1909 he is listed as the
• 24:24
  owner of a small grocery store and 914 Caledonia Street.
• 24:30
  And two years later, the owner is listed as Augusta Gein.
• 24:35
  And George has been demoted to clerk.
• 24:37
  What the hell? It's in the record.
• 24:39
  How do you go from owning your own grocery store to being just
• 24:42
  a freaking clerk? Yep.
• 24:45
  And your wife just took your business from you.
• 24:46
  She's like Fuck. You think this saying you're not
• 24:48
  going to be the work. What he did do was he worked as
• 24:50
  a clerk. Be also like did a lot of
• 24:51
  Butchery. Hmm.
• 24:53
  He like when they got animals in it was like a shed out behind
• 24:55
  the grow, the grocery store. And the boys were told never to
• 24:59
  go there, but it does have a memory of when he was fairly
• 25:02
  young sneaking out back. Back and being kind of shocked
• 25:07
  as hell to see sissy like, like a carcass hanging from the
• 25:11
  ceiling. Right?
• 25:12
  Right. Yeah.
• 25:12
  Okay. Probably not a good idea.
• 25:14
  Yeah, not for kids. Damn man, you got damn.
• 25:19
  Okay. The first couple years of Eddie
• 25:22
  and Howard's life, it's okay. They're babies so you can't
• 25:25
  really do too much with like their little true.
• 25:28
  But Augusta was very much, a serious disciplinarian and then
• 25:32
  around the time that Ed is 7. By the time he turns seven,
• 25:37
  she's completely the head of the household 1913.
• 25:39
  She decides that the gain family weren't going to be emergency
• 25:42
  more, and she sells that business so that they can become
• 25:45
  Farmers. Because in her head she was
• 25:47
  like, well, if we're landowners, that's some kind of wealth.
• 25:51
  And she wanted to remove her children from the very Wicked
• 25:54
  Ways of the city. So they moved to a small dairy
• 25:58
  farm in the lowlands near Camp Douglas which is about 40 miles
• 26:02
  east of La Crosse. But they only stay there for a
• 26:04
  year because Augusta who still trying to seek out wealth.
• 26:08
  Finds a larger piece of land that she could afford and they
• 26:12
  moved there in 1914. 195, Acre Farm in Plainfield known to the
• 26:17
  locals as the old John Greenfield Place.
• 26:20
  Yeah, this deed was 100% in her name.
• 26:24
  Unlike most families where the lamb was in the husband's name
• 26:28
  and Augusta was, you know, living the best life.
• 26:30
  She didn't get him as cosine or nothing like that.
• 26:32
  No little, like tiny pieces. It's also like massive at this
• 26:36
  point. Like, you got an eight-year-old
• 26:38
  tagging or old a man who's not doing a whole lot and a woman
• 26:43
  who's a couple of like, is he like a farmhand at least he
• 26:47
  helped around originally and, It was his massive for a
• 26:58
  four-person family, right? She didn't have to like chase
• 27:03
  after the boys. The tell him to stop trying to
• 27:04
  watch the animals get butchered. But there were other, like, I
• 27:11
  would say issues with having such a big property and also
• 27:16
  having small children doing the work there, but I'll get into
• 27:18
  that. I mean, yeah, they probably got
• 27:19
  lost somewhere. Yeah, she decorated the house.
• 27:22
  Very chaste in terms of Furnishing furnishings and like
• 27:26
  the nicest things went to their parlor for and here's where like
• 27:31
  the issues come from. They were very isolated on this
• 27:34
  Farm. Like the closest like neighbors
• 27:36
  were like a good like Mile away from there, like main house.
• 27:45
  But for our children, this was awful.
• 27:48
  Like she found the locals to be morally, reprehensible and she
• 27:51
  said about continuing to teach our children.
• 27:53
  The whole, you know, God fire Brimstone.
• 27:57
  And she had a real like kind of haughty attitude about her farm
• 28:00
  and how she kept it really beautiful.
• 28:02
  And like, she thought people were jealous of her and the
• 28:06
  locals were particularly fond of her, but she didn't care, like,
• 28:09
  it's for her, sons were the only friends that she needed.
• 28:12
  Oh, Now, Augusta love the idea of keeping her kids isolated,
• 28:16
  but she couldn't keep them 100% of way from the ills of the
• 28:19
  world, because they had to go to school.
• 28:21
  And so, ever started attending the Rocha Creek grade school,
• 28:24
  which is a small school house that had one room in 12 kids.
• 28:28
  And then later, that's cool merged with a larger school
• 28:30
  called the white school and he was there from 8 years old to
• 28:33
  16. And at that time your formal
• 28:35
  education was pretty much over unless you want to go to college
• 28:39
  as a student. Ed was, he's capable but kind of
• 28:42
  lackluster, kind of like it. Dad years later after he was
• 28:45
  caught and his crimes. In public, they put him under
• 28:48
  just a boatload of psychological tests and IQ test and learned
• 28:53
  that he had an average IQ for people of the time.
• 28:55
  Hmm. Ed was a really good reader
• 28:58
  though, and like a lot of really quiet kids.
• 29:01
  He filled his time with books of All Sorts, including some that
• 29:04
  were weird and we'll talk about that later.
• 29:07
  Like I said, he was a really quiet kid.
• 29:08
  He didn't have a lot of friends. He spent his full-time of the
• 29:11
  only he could relate to his Smooth made to were all friends
• 29:15
  and he wanted to be accepted so he tried to imitate them but it
• 29:18
  didn't really work every. So often he would like almost
• 29:22
  get there and like almost make a friends would be like look
• 29:24
  socialization. And he come home and he'd tell
• 29:28
  his mom like, oh, I met this kid and his mom would immediately
• 29:31
  squash it. She tell him that that kids
• 29:33
  family and a bad reputation or that the mom was a woman of
• 29:37
  questionable. Moral fiber from before she got
• 29:39
  married. Santa kid are rumors about that
• 29:42
  boy's father. Other and because as like adored
• 29:45
  her, he was like, okay. And he would go back to school
• 29:50
  and he wouldn't talk to that kid anymore.
• 29:51
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:54
  So I will say this while the other kids saw that he was
• 29:57
  weird. There were none of the big
• 29:59
  three, you know, serial killer ticks that we learned about in
• 30:03
  the modern era. He never went to bed, he never
• 30:06
  set fires, he never harmed animals and he's a child.
• 30:08
  Any head injuries. Hmm, no, huh?
• 30:13
  There's absolutely nothing in his childhood that would show
• 30:16
  that he would suffer from such severe psychosis. 40 years
• 30:21
  later. Hmm.
• 30:22
  Interesting. Okay.
• 30:24
  Maybe with the amount of understanding we have about
• 30:27
  these things. Now, like a gifted psychiatrist
• 30:30
  might have seen it, but he was just like, a weird kid with a
• 30:34
  goofy grin and like, a little lazy eye.
• 30:37
  It not talk to people, and he laughed at weird jokes that he
• 30:39
  made himself, who doesn't? He also stared at the girls in
• 30:42
  his classroom, but he never touched anybody.
• 30:44
  Or try to do anything inappropriate?
• 30:46
  Okay, I mean, we hold on a sec. So bear wedding is like, a big
• 30:50
  Yeah, that's one of the three things that they've determined
• 30:53
  is a sign of. It's not just bedwetting, but
• 30:56
  it's bedwetting well into the teenage years.
• 30:58
  Okay. Not like your kids like just
• 31:00
  potty training and having issues like not like you are 21 and you
• 31:05
  drank too much and you forgot to get out of bed.
• 31:09
  No this is like it's consistent. Bedwetting.
• 31:11
  Well into your teenager. Okay.
• 31:13
  Okay, thank you for clarifying hoes like I'm not worried which
• 31:17
  please explain more. I've died.
• 31:22
  I'm not where I was I were you worried about yourself, right?
• 31:25
  This isn't guy. What?
• 31:26
  Yes, exactly. Little toomai 30s is still
• 31:29
  wetting the bed. Watch out for me people.
• 31:32
  That's the age of serial killers.
• 31:34
  One of the issues he had. It's cool that he was considered
• 31:37
  to be a bit effeminate and his mannerisms.
• 31:39
  He cried a lot and like he couldn't take a joke like any
• 31:43
  sort of teasing he couldn't handle it.
• 31:45
  Like one story that was referenced in Harold.
• 31:47
  Schechter's book. Was that somebody like mentioned
• 31:50
  that He had a bag on his life because he had this like skin
• 31:53
  tag that his mom never got cut off.
• 31:55
  And so, like, he just mentioned it and like it was no, like, you
• 31:59
  know, like sometimes kids like someone says something.
• 32:02
  So somebody says something back to them, he didn't have that in
• 32:04
  him at all. Yeah, he just started sobbing
• 32:07
  and they were just like, oh my God, like what?
• 32:09
  I was wrong with him. And so for him this like, even a
• 32:12
  little bit of teasing that would happen.
• 32:14
  He was just like, oh, my mom's right?
• 32:16
  These people are horrible. So that's kind of like like how
• 32:21
  he grew up and during the years that end Henry were in
• 32:24
  elementary school, the family was financially struggling,
• 32:30
  Augustus purchase of this, massive plot of land.
• 32:33
  Proved to be more difficult than she imagined.
• 32:36
  They were always worried if they had enough food to feed
• 32:38
  themselves by the time that Ed was a teenager, his father had
• 32:43
  stopped working on the farm. At all.
• 32:47
  And he just spent his time laying out drinking abusing both
• 32:50
  of his wife and children, whenever we were little, he
• 32:54
  would physically hit them. But by the time they were
• 32:57
  teenagers even though they were smaller than your average.
• 32:59
  Teen at the time, they were far too big to be hit.
• 33:02
  He wasn't trying to, you know, get that smoke.
• 33:04
  Okay, how I just wanted to mention, I just want to say, how
• 33:09
  are you, man? Just laying around.
• 33:13
  Do nothing. He needs the prize here, abusing
• 33:17
  your family. How do you do that?
• 33:19
  Entire groups of men who specifically seek out women like
• 33:23
  myself, who are a little on the bigger side so that they can
• 33:26
  live off of them because they're like, oh well, you know, she
• 33:29
  can't get anybody, so fuck that, shit stupid, and then try and
• 33:34
  like live off of you. And then yeah, when they were
• 33:38
  teenagers, I bet he didn't want that smoke.
• 33:40
  No, he didn't want that smoke. Once they got bigger, of course,
• 33:42
  but what he would do is he would like rant and Rave and like
• 33:45
  scream at them and insult. That was such a cool, dude.
• 33:50
  Yeah. Apparently, there was an
• 33:55
  argument that ad remember, very vividly when he was being
• 33:59
  interviewed where his father like accused Augusta of cheating
• 34:02
  on him, which is so out of like her morale.
• 34:06
  Like guideline and besides that she didn't have any time and she
• 34:11
  on anybody because she was working on the farm or cleaning
• 34:13
  the fucking hell working her asshole.
• 34:15
  Yeah. Um but I guess it took the
• 34:19
  beatings and the physical and verbal abuse woman.
• 34:24
  She will because God said divorce is wrong and her
• 34:27
  thinking was if the Lord had saddled her with this man, then
• 34:29
  it was Herbert. Okay, but he God never say you
• 34:31
  can't fight back now. Ah, that's the Bible I'll say so
• 34:35
  you couldn't take it like a two-by-four guess his head, you
• 34:37
  know, at didn't really handle his parents fighting like that
• 34:42
  and he became more reclusive and more separate from his family.
• 34:46
  And I would feel like this, Is kind of like one of the early
• 34:48
  places where there might have been a separation of reality for
• 34:52
  him, which is, we know, now, in hindsight, it's PTSD thing that
• 34:57
  sometimes people who are struggling are suffering from
• 34:59
  PTSD, begin to lean into their fantasy world as a means to
• 35:06
  cope. Hmm, especially like children
• 35:09
  who are abused victims. Like you find a happy place to
• 35:12
  go to when the bad thing is happening.
• 35:17
  And for him, it was these books that he was reading.
• 35:19
  And I unfortunately I remember being a quiet smart kid who only
• 35:24
  read books all the time because of trauma, interesting Sal
• 35:30
  hahaha But time passed, Adam Henry, become young man, George
• 35:37
  sinks deeper into his depression.
• 35:40
  Augusta takes to nagging the boys about everything which is
• 35:45
  specially the evils of the Modern Woman.
• 35:49
  Of course specifically that Plainfield women were the worst
• 35:54
  and she knew based on magazines and newspapers that these girls
• 35:59
  were horrible because they were short skirts.
• 36:01
  And powdered their faces and there's lipstick.
• 36:04
  And she told her son's that all women were tainted.
• 36:07
  Always knew women were tainted and Fallen.
• 36:10
  Let you know that this is like the 1930s.
• 36:13
  So everything that any previous generation says about the next
• 36:17
  generation is always the same thing.
• 36:20
  It's never different. Every previous generation is
• 36:23
  like, oh, these children, they're gonna bring down the
• 36:25
  downfalls civilization. Look at them in their
• 36:27
  inappropriate clothing. And I'm like, that is what they
• 36:30
  say nowadays. And All the time.
• 36:34
  Did you? Interesting fact?
• 36:36
  Well, I'm pretty sure you're a nudist.
• 36:37
  Did you know that? The human brain has not evolved
• 36:40
  since like in thousands of years make sense.
• 36:42
  So we still have the same brain as our ancestors did like
• 36:45
  thousands of years ago, but like Australopithecus or like human
• 36:50
  like you know Homo sapiens. I think not the pre pre people
• 36:54
  but like the people like the heel Homo sapiens Homo sapiens.
• 36:57
  Okay. I mean so at least we've evolved
• 36:58
  from you know, Cro-Magnon. Yeah, sort of, I'm just like,
• 37:04
  because I'm thinking like so how people think they're smart?
• 37:08
  Now, people were, people were saying like same not
• 37:11
  intelligence back then and then people still do the same shit.
• 37:15
  They did back then today, of course.
• 37:17
  Absolutely. Well, that's like, okay, so I
• 37:20
  love this because I love the older black folks, who are
• 37:24
  always talking about how young but you know look at them being
• 37:26
  all sexy shaking their booties and all that whatever.
• 37:30
  But But I remember, okay my this is literally in my father's
• 37:35
  study right now and it's a very famous painting.
• 37:38
  That's easily like 80 years old and is a bunch of black folks in
• 37:43
  like a cage as type club and they are all just swiveling and
• 37:48
  a-shakin and booties are popped out and I was like, how dare you
• 37:52
  tell me that people worked working eight years ago?
• 37:55
  But it's always been twerking just had a different name.
• 37:57
  Then they, we really have been twerking.
• 38:00
  Thanks. Since we were in high school
• 38:02
  where it's working there, too. That's what I'm saying about
• 38:04
  talking about. How do you kids are up on new
• 38:06
  stuff? Oh my God.
• 38:08
  Nothing new. It's got different and it does.
• 38:10
  I know it's not like old people. My God anyway though that is
• 38:14
  what Augusta really harped on. And so what like this is
• 38:19
  actually another really awful story from the schachter book
• 38:21
  but like so say like they were working on the farm and like it
• 38:24
  rained and they couldn't keep working, they would come inside.
• 38:28
  And a gust would be sitting in the parlor on her favorite chair
• 38:31
  and she would make them sit with her while she read revelation.
• 38:37
  The end of days and the loose women in the Bible or not at
• 38:44
  fault. I believe the, the exact quote
• 38:48
  is harlots and Abominations and she would also just sit and read
• 38:57
  the Psalms to them. The songs are at least a little
• 38:59
  nicer. I guess Revelation is just pure,
• 39:02
  the world is ending and you all suck and you're all going to
• 39:04
  die. Well, you know.
• 39:06
  So what but we all know this, I mean, but it's always
• 39:10
  interesting because this is kind of a space where Henry and Ed
• 39:13
  begin to divide on the feelings about their mother one day,
• 39:18
  they're, you know, I guess they're just talking and Henry's
• 39:22
  just like Well, for this way. Henry originally tries to kind
• 39:30
  of push back against his mother. Mmm.
• 39:33
  He's a notice, of course, he's trying to, you know, flirt with
• 39:36
  girls, he's trying to do something but it's his mother is
• 39:38
  like, I'm trying to do my own thing.
• 39:40
  Now, his mother's a force to be reckoned with and Henry decides.
• 39:44
  He's just never gonna get married, which was fine for
• 39:46
  Augusta because several of her, brother's never got married
• 39:49
  either. In fact, both Henry and add
• 39:52
  never had relationships with women and their entire lives.
• 39:56
  Okay. Now for Henry, the shorter life
• 40:01
  is relatively young. Yeah.
• 40:03
  In fact, Ed's entire family dies within like five year period.
• 40:07
  Oh damn. Mmm.
• 40:09
  It starts with George. After a lifetime of abusing his
• 40:11
  liver and marriage that had been pretty terrible for his mental
• 40:15
  health. He was pretty much like a shell
• 40:18
  of a person with little will to live 1937.
• 40:22
  He gets really sick. He's completely dependent on his
• 40:25
  family for Lutely, all care. We didn't have a name for it.
• 40:29
  Then from what it sounded like though is that he was probably
• 40:32
  suffering from liver failure and and liver failure is a pretty
• 40:35
  awful and he died. 66 years old April 1st 1948 and for his
• 40:41
  family his death wasn't a major loss Ed and Henry were like whoo
• 40:45
  thank goodness. We don't have to take care of
• 40:47
  them all the time. It was just more chores on top
• 40:49
  of their other chores, they had to do to keep that farm running,
• 40:52
  right? Yeah.
• 40:54
  Feel the farm, it's still not succeeding.
• 40:58
  And in fact, in the entire time, mind you, the family started,
• 41:02
  they moved there in 1914, it's not a 1940, it still has no
• 41:06
  electricity, no indoor plumbing. So while it might have been like
• 41:10
  a hot commodity in 1914. Augusta hadn't been able to keep
• 41:14
  it up. They had been able to save any
• 41:15
  money to improve the house. What were they doing?
• 41:18
  What were they doing? Just barely surviving.
• 41:22
  Wow. And the outside had fallen
• 41:24
  apart, too. So it was not the the house that
• 41:28
  it was when she started. What year was this 1940?
• 41:31
  Thank you for tea. Was it around like the Great
• 41:33
  Depression type of? Well, oh, a lots about to
• 41:36
  happen. One of the worst wars in the
• 41:40
  world is happening. Simultaneously Henry's too old
• 41:44
  for military service but Ed is not and so he goes to Milwaukee
• 41:50
  to You're looking confused. No, no, I'm scratching my beard
• 41:55
  so. Okay.
• 41:56
  I was like, you know, that world the world war is happiness,
• 41:59
  okay? As with this a I'm just drunk.
• 42:02
  I'm not drunk, my beard and I'm not confused.
• 42:06
  Look, is my look okay that everybody knows this.
• 42:10
  I was looking for used but yeah he goes to Milwaukee to get a
• 42:14
  health assessment to see if he can be drafted.
• 42:17
  And they determined that that like I growth that had never
• 42:24
  been removed, had caused one of his eyes to sagging, it like
• 42:27
  partially impaired his vision. So they determined that he is
• 42:30
  not able to join the war in 1942.
• 42:35
  He's 36 years old at that point and that trip to Milwaukee is
• 42:39
  the farthest. He would ever travel from his
• 42:41
  home and his entire life really. Yeah, wow.
• 42:44
  Oh, you know what? I was confused for a second
• 42:47
  because of the ages, I didn't I forgot that the years had jumped
• 42:51
  Don't anybody was still like ATL's?
• 42:54
  Like what it? What are you talking about?
• 42:55
  He's not older. He's old too old to be a listed.
• 43:00
  Well, yeah, that would have made in 1942 that would have made his
• 43:04
  brother 38. Yeah, that reminds.
• 43:07
  That was the cutoff is 30. Finally I thought that I mean
• 43:10
  but I was 36 and they still were like come on down.
• 43:14
  Maybe it's not the cutoff anymore.
• 43:16
  Well it may be the cutoff. Damn.
• 43:17
  Yeah, I think it's 35 now, but okay.
• 43:19
  Anyway. But either way, after his dad
• 43:21
  died, they both of them. Took odd jobs.
• 43:23
  Honestly, it was a handyman for a while.
• 43:26
  He was also a very well-respected babysitter in the
• 43:28
  town. Kids loved him.
• 43:31
  He'd roughhouse with the Boise drechsel, he do magic tricks or
• 43:34
  tell scary stories. The little girls in the winter,
• 43:37
  he joined the kids, in the snowball fights.
• 43:40
  He was still very self-conscious around adults, but with kids, he
• 43:42
  feel like they didn't touch him and funny enough like in town,
• 43:46
  the parents didn't judge him either.
• 43:48
  No adults. Did they saw him as a good
• 43:50
  neighbor? Who was way better than his mom?
• 43:53
  Who is the epitome of holier-than-thou?
• 43:56
  And they were like, well, it's not like that stuck-up bitch.
• 44:00
  So you can talk to you and say something mom for us please.
• 44:05
  I'm Henry was working this like really good job as a
• 44:07
  construction foreman and the two shared chores.
• 44:11
  They hunted on the family property together and really
• 44:13
  admired his brother but it came up again that Henry thought that
• 44:19
  Ed was too close to Augusta. He was like I think it's a
• 44:23
  little weird that she's like lashed on you like this.
• 44:27
  Ed thought Augusta was in. Fallible.
• 44:31
  Of course, that's your mama and then May 16th 1944.
• 44:36
  There's a fire on some Marshland near their home and Henry dies
• 44:40
  under some suspicious circumstances.
• 44:42
  No, he's only 43 years old. There are reports that own
• 44:46
  newspapers about how the fire started and there's multiple
• 44:49
  ideas. There's reports that it was just
• 44:51
  an accident that it was a fire. That was like to burn off, like
• 44:54
  the grass and the Marshland. But regardless and reported to
• 44:58
  everybody that like while they were out there, there was a
• 45:01
  really strong wrong win and it blew and the fire got out of
• 45:03
  control. They decided they were going to
• 45:06
  try and like stop it from two sides and then Ed loses track of
• 45:12
  Henry. As he you know it's taking the
• 45:16
  fire out when he can't find his brother.
• 45:18
  He goes to town gathers, a search party, they all go back
• 45:21
  into the woods and look for him and there, they find Henry face
• 45:25
  down in the dirt. Very, very, very dead.
• 45:29
  The Searchers are confused though, because even though the
• 45:31
  ground around him is scorched, Henry's body is not.
• 45:35
  He's covered in soot but no part of him is burned.
• 45:40
  None of his clothes are burned off nothing.
• 45:43
  They also found bruising on his head also and had led the search
• 45:49
  party almost directly to the spot where Henry's body was even
• 45:53
  though he had said, he had been able to find him.
• 45:56
  See, look, I was thinking of ways to give him the benefit of
• 45:59
  the doubt. Maybe he died from like smoke
• 46:01
  in, that's why he didn't have any Burns.
• 46:04
  No nevermind. Okay yeah.
• 46:05
  Yep, you're absolutely correct. But it looks like his brother
• 46:12
  kind of murdered him. He marked him well so they
• 46:17
  immediately call the district attorney Earl Killeen and the
• 46:20
  County coroner George blader and a doctor from town named dr.
• 46:24
  Ingersoll. They're all called to the scene
• 46:26
  on the Medical District staff. Determine he died from
• 46:28
  asphyxiation and there's no foul play.
• 46:30
  Hmm. At the time.
• 46:33
  No one would have even suspected that Ed was the kind of Sin to
• 46:36
  kill anybody and though the case was closed and they let it go,
• 46:39
  okay? I mean but you did it but it's
• 46:42
  okay. Shortly after Henry's death,
• 46:45
  Augusta reports that she doesn't feel good.
• 46:47
  He puts her in the truck and drive to to the wall, Rose
• 46:50
  Hospital. By the time they get there.
• 46:52
  She's so weak that she needs a wheelchair to even get in the
• 46:54
  building. Augusta had a stroke as you need
• 46:58
  to be hospitalized and then when he brought her home ed was like,
• 47:01
  her primary care person like he stayed with her.
• 47:05
  Every day when she was at the hospital visiting hours went
• 47:08
  home. He waited on her every need
• 47:10
  reading her from the Bible, to make her happy.
• 47:12
  They actually got really close and it was almost like he was
• 47:15
  like getting the attention from her that he always wanted.
• 47:18
  Then you are getting attention from her though.
• 47:20
  No. Because the attention got from
• 47:22
  before was you're going to hell and you're stupid.
• 47:25
  How could I raise such a stupid child, really?
• 47:28
  Yeah, like she really loved him but like it was a I'm gonna I'm
• 47:33
  gonna love. I'm gonna be You into submission
• 47:36
  kind of love. And like I'm going to make you a
• 47:39
  good man through aggressive. Okay, that's not good.
• 47:43
  So here she's being like soft because she's weak and she needs
• 47:46
  help doing things. This is so great that it takes
• 47:49
  until about night midd like middle of 1945, almost like a
• 47:52
  year later for his mother to get enough strength to try and walk.
• 47:55
  And like as soon as she could like move around on her own she
• 47:59
  like foot back to being normal like when she first tried to get
• 48:02
  out of like the bed like he Like here, let me help you and she's
• 48:06
  like, I know how to walk like that kind of response and he was
• 48:09
  like damn it back to business. Yep.
• 48:14
  And then the winter of 1945 something.
• 48:16
  Pretty awful happens, they still had animals on their farms and
• 48:21
  uh draw to feed them. So they drive to a neighbor to
• 48:24
  make the purchase and as they're driving down the road, they come
• 48:27
  across their neighbors who are a couple Trigger warning, animal
• 48:32
  abuse. Just saying the man whose their
• 48:37
  neighbor is like, beating their dog in the middle of the street
• 48:42
  and the woman's, they're screaming at him to stop.
• 48:45
  And the man literally kills. Oh my God.
• 48:48
  The the puppy in the Middle of the Road.
• 48:50
  God, and here's the worst. The weirdest part of this story
• 48:55
  Augusta gets like super upset like super worked up about it
• 48:58
  but not about the Abuse. Why she's upset about the woman
• 49:03
  who's in the street? Sobbing Because the two of them
• 49:09
  are living in sin. Brittany, I kid you not.
• 49:13
  She works herself up into a fit and has a second stroke a week
• 49:18
  later. Oh, my fucking god.
• 49:20
  This time, he rushed her to the hospital.
• 49:22
  She dies. December 29th, 1945.
• 49:25
  Like she literally like Works herself into another brain
• 49:28
  because you got mad. She's mad.
• 49:31
  Because what down the road? Come on, I know.
• 49:40
  Some of her siblings attend this funeral and my favorite part
• 49:44
  about this is that her obituary was three, sentences long.
• 49:48
  George got at least, like, a couple of paragraphs, like, I
• 49:51
  could find it for you. If I pulled up the book out with
• 49:54
  archive.org, but like there was one part of like George Gibbs,
• 49:57
  where was like, George suffered incredibly long for the three
• 50:00
  years before his death. Here's what her says, mrs.
• 50:04
  Augusta Gein Drew died. At the Wild, Rose Hospital on
• 50:07
  December 29th of Cerebro brain hemorrhage.
• 50:10
  The body was brought to the gulf funeral home where Services were
• 50:13
  held December 30th. Reverend CH Weiss officiating.
• 50:17
  She is survived by one son. Edward who lives on the home
• 50:20
  Farm Southwest to here is like they got back at her.
• 50:27
  They were like listen, we not giving you any more lines than
• 50:30
  necessary. Sorry, where's your funeral?
• 50:33
  You died and you got one kid, who lives around here somewhere?
• 50:37
  That's all you need to know. Bye.
• 50:41
  Oh, Ed was inconsolable, of course, and this was definitely
• 50:46
  kind of the beginning beginning of his spiral, but no one could
• 50:49
  really tell it first. He was still a very much
• 50:51
  soft-spoken kind awkward, not very social, but always polite.
• 50:56
  If anybody need help, he would lend a hand but some things were
• 50:59
  starting to break for him. He stopped shaving.
• 51:03
  He also stopped bathing what little that was being done to
• 51:08
  the farm. Augusta was alive, stopped front
• 51:12
  yard stayed overgrown with weeds for years and sold off all the
• 51:16
  livestock to pay for his mother's funeral.
• 51:18
  And all of the Old Farm Equipment was just left to rust
• 51:21
  in the bar and I'm like, you couldn't have sold that to Pam,
• 51:23
  like, goodness wasteful. Yeah, he to make money.
• 51:27
  He least a couple of Acres on the property to neighbors
• 51:31
  adjacent Farms, who wanted more farmland.
• 51:34
  And he'd work around like town as a handyman.
• 51:37
  He didn't have a whole lot of like, Fences.
• 51:39
  So he didn't you a whole lot of money, right?
• 51:41
  Yeah he was also getting a state subsidy for his lamb through
• 51:45
  this like Stateville, come conservation, program almost
• 51:49
  almost that conversation and I spelled it right my notes but
• 51:51
  almost that conversation his neighbors were pretty
• 51:56
  understanding that he was grieving a lot of things fall to
• 51:58
  the Wayside when you're grieving but some people definitely
• 52:01
  thought he was kind of gross. Because, you know, here's this.
• 52:05
  Portland shaving as well. Say, stinky man, Greg Lee yakin
• 52:09
  smelly dude walking down the street.
• 52:12
  Most people weren't too bothered by it.
• 52:14
  The women around town, I went to, they found him Charming.
• 52:17
  But disarming, I would say disarming, like she wasn't
• 52:20
  really bothered. Like they, they were late there,
• 52:22
  maybe they took pity on him, okay?
• 52:24
  He ain't cursed at all, he never behaved violently.
• 52:28
  The the men, their husbands were kind of like, what kind of guy
• 52:33
  is this? Because apparently, they people
• 52:37
  found out that he was afraid of blood.
• 52:40
  So which they found odd because his father had been a butcher in
• 52:44
  the grocery store and he grew up on a farm and he'd been hunting
• 52:47
  with his brother, but apparently Henry must have done all of the
• 52:50
  skinning of the LIE of the animal part.
• 52:52
  Okay? There's nothing, there's nothing
• 52:53
  wrong with being afraid of blood.
• 52:54
  Okay. You just did, that's his only
• 52:56
  looking at it. Are you afraid of blood sir?
• 52:58
  I don't like looking at, who is terrible.
• 53:00
  It makes you really hate it when he looked a lot of things.
• 53:03
  Okay, that's fake blood. Oh, okay.
• 53:05
  So just real blood. Yeah.
• 53:07
  Only had one experience like that when I worked in a Hospital
• 53:10
  taking pictures of babies during college.
• 53:13
  I, you know, sometimes bad things happen during pregnancy
• 53:18
  or after pregnancy and says, in one room, like, hitting out,
• 53:22
  like flyers to people a little booklets and stuff.
• 53:24
  And then in that moment, as I was pushing the cart out of the
• 53:29
  room, a hemorrhage happened. And I didn't know what that was,
• 53:34
  but I sure remember the sheer volume of blood and the like
• 53:39
  team of two. 1T people who came tearing down the hall to help
• 53:45
  her. She survived bus goes, good, but
• 53:47
  it was scary but that's the first time I've had ever seen
• 53:50
  blood and it like made me nauseous.
• 53:53
  It was so much. Yeah, scary.
• 53:57
  I want a my favorite content creators his, that happened to
• 54:01
  his wife after their first time. And like he said, he knew that
• 54:06
  something serious had happened because the doctor sent all of
• 54:11
  the interns away. Oh, she was like, I need you to
• 54:13
  leave. Yeah.
• 54:15
  And like, he was just like, she was just, that's a bad sign.
• 54:18
  Yep. And like, and her face changed,
• 54:21
  and he was just like, oh, no. And he has to be in the room and
• 54:25
  still like pretend that she's okay.
• 54:28
  Her mom's the, what the moms on the baby.
• 54:29
  Like, what's up? We good, we're having a good
• 54:31
  time and the pathway down the doctors at a whole different
• 54:34
  Mission. Like that's like one of the
• 54:36
  scary things that can happen, but yeah, as I didn't know, you
• 54:39
  had that issue. You see, yeah, that's known each
• 54:41
  other for so long and I don't know, you weirded out by your a
• 54:45
  blood person though. It's your job.
• 54:48
  Is it okay with its in a little bag?
• 54:50
  It's okay, when is in the bags. So what is this?
• 54:52
  Is it like a wound situation? Um, that?
• 54:55
  Yeah, like, owe me. I'm fine.
• 54:57
  Was it? Like, I got my, like, my tip of
• 54:59
  my finger got cut off. Well, the oh, wow.
• 55:02
  Go that's gross. And like it.
• 55:03
  Grew back wrong but I want to see when we're done.
• 55:06
  Yeah. Okay.
• 55:06
  It grew back wrong. Um, I never noticed and Like,
• 55:10
  when I cut myself, I cut myself and when his blink is fucking
• 55:15
  lot of blood, I'm just looking at like, oh, okay.
• 55:20
  What is this specific way that you don't like blood.
• 55:22
  So it's anybody else's blood. Okay?
• 55:25
  Like my kids, I'm fine with anybody else, like adult and I
• 55:28
  can see they're like just their blood coming out is like and
• 55:31
  then what the with my job there are.
• 55:35
  Sometimes if you are accidents with blood, you know, with a
• 55:40
  blood bag, breaks a bag breaks or you know, and then you just
• 55:45
  just see all the blood everywhere he's like.
• 55:49
  I need to go. I need to go right now.
• 55:52
  I'm gonna throw up. Well, you sympathize with Ed
• 55:56
  being afraid of blood then. Yeah.
• 55:57
  Absolutely. Because that's just how I feel
• 56:01
  an equi Kinder. You we get from that.
• 56:04
  Well, you're flying. Keep going.
• 56:06
  Don't. Nobody could tell by the 1950s
• 56:09
  and had retreated from society and he was living in his head in
• 56:15
  a really dark way. He spent our a spent all of the
• 56:18
  ow, As in his Farmhouse that like when he wasn't going to
• 56:22
  work just reading weird books, his house was covered in just
• 56:28
  filth and he would spend like hours studying like Nazi
• 56:32
  Germany, atrocities, he read stories of exclamations.
• 56:37
  Resurrection men Body. Snatchers stories of 19th
• 56:41
  century. English grave.
• 56:42
  Robbers selling corpses did medical schools.
• 56:44
  I'm sure he probably read about HH Holmes, that was happening.
• 56:47
  Oh yeah. Another story of like this Rich,
• 56:50
  these rich, young British Aristocrats digging up,
• 56:52
  beautiful women doing horrible things to them.
• 56:55
  He read about cannibalism, sexual mutilation, he's huge
• 56:59
  when we couldn't find those things to read, he would read
• 57:02
  the local paper, but not like to know what was going on to read
• 57:05
  about people getting killed car. Crashes, suicides.
• 57:08
  It's appearances. No, boy, he like I told you
• 57:12
  retreating into that fantasy space.
• 57:14
  He's entirely in it now, hmm. And he always always tore out
• 57:20
  and saved the obituaries of course.
• 57:24
  So now we're going to get into kind of like What I would say.
• 57:27
  The stuff, this is the general information that most people
• 57:29
  know about a game, which is that between 1947 and 1950 to, he
• 57:33
  began visiting graveyard at night, just first, just to look,
• 57:37
  he would tell the police later on and he visited three local
• 57:40
  cemeteries over 40 times on 10 of those time times.
• 57:44
  He dug up women who had recently been buried, who he thought
• 57:48
  looked like his dead mother, taking them home.
• 57:52
  Me laying there remains turning them into trophies that he likes
• 57:54
  to display around his house. This was how Ed dealt with his
• 57:59
  feelings of lust for women. He swore the police that he
• 58:03
  never had sex with any of them because they smell bad.
• 58:07
  You don't say but he did get a sexual satisfaction from
• 58:11
  peeling, the skin from their bodies and wearing it, that's
• 58:16
  not okay. During this time, he also became
• 58:19
  obsessed with a story. He read about a trans woman from
• 58:22
  Europe and so he like created a skin suit.
• 58:26
  To see what it was like to. Like feel like to have breasts
• 58:31
  and he also cut off the genitals of several of the bodies that he
• 58:35
  pulled to see what a vagina looks like, sir, like some of
• 58:42
  this stuff could be solved by getting a girlfriend.
• 58:48
  He was too weird. A point.
• 58:50
  I have a girlfriend. Yeah, I know he's too far gone.
• 58:52
  We have a girl. I mean, you can find another get
• 58:54
  a mortician girlfriend. What I do know, somebody get a
• 59:03
  grave a grave digger. Girlfriend.
• 59:04
  Okay. So the making both rubs bodies
• 59:07
  together. She look you can get the hook up
• 59:09
  their shit, it's still illegal and defiling corpses.
• 59:14
  Oh my God I'm trying to help him out.
• 59:17
  Sir. So during that time that like
• 59:20
  1947 to like 1952 time period, there was an uptick in missing
• 59:25
  persons in Wisconsin for like a couple of them are about five,
• 59:28
  the police just couldn't figure out for different situations.
• 59:31
  The first was an eight-year-old girl named Georgia, Wexler, who
• 59:34
  disappeared on her way home from school, May first 1947 hundreds
• 59:38
  of people, search for her. They searched the entirety of
• 59:41
  Jefferson Wisconsin but she was never seen or heard from again.
• 59:45
  There were no Suspects. The tire marks found where she
• 59:48
  was last seen. They were the tire tread of a
• 59:51
  Ford. Hmm, six years later and La
• 59:54
  Crosse. Wisconsin, 15 year old Evelyn.
• 59:56
  Hartley is babysitting when she disappears her father, tried to
• 1:00:00
  call her at the house that she was working at and she and pick
• 1:00:03
  up the phone. So he showed up and when he
• 1:00:05
  looked through the window, he saw one of his daughters shoes
• 1:00:07
  and her glasses on the floor. So he checked around the house
• 1:00:11
  and he found that they back basement window was open and
• 1:00:14
  there was blood, he entered the house.
• 1:00:17
  Signs of a struggle and called the police from the property.
• 1:00:20
  Police found blood in the grass, leading away from the house and
• 1:00:23
  there was a bloody handprint on a neighbor's house.
• 1:00:25
  They did a regional search and they couldn't find anything
• 1:00:28
  other than her, bloody clothes near a highway that was leaving
• 1:00:31
  La Crosse. They assumed that she was
• 1:00:34
  murdered November of 1952, two men stopped for drinks at a bar
• 1:00:39
  in Plainfield Wisconsin. Before going deer hunting, they
• 1:00:42
  were Victor Travis and raber guests and they were never seen
• 1:00:45
  again and then in the Tour of 1954, a Plainfield bar owner
• 1:00:49
  named Mary Hogan went missing, police found Blood on the tavern
• 1:00:53
  floor that led to the parking lot and an empty bullet
• 1:00:56
  cartridge. The only common ties between all
• 1:00:59
  these cases that they all happened in or around Plainfield
• 1:01:03
  Wisconsin. And I got to tell ya.
• 1:01:08
  Mary was German and tall and stocky and Buxom.
• 1:01:13
  The she have like the boss. Yep.
• 1:01:17
  She was a Tavern owner. So she was of course, she had
• 1:01:19
  the balls, the balls used to be like, I mean, but she's very
• 1:01:22
  different from his mother in a sense that like, she was like a
• 1:01:25
  swearing, you know, she's our owner lady.
• 1:01:28
  Yeah. So this one is the direct.
• 1:01:33
  Looks like his mom acts like his mom.
• 1:01:37
  When you got two guys, you said right?
• 1:01:39
  There were two guys at a different bar.
• 1:01:41
  Okay? And what we'll see about, this
• 1:01:43
  Ester is changing his ho. We'll see.
• 1:01:45
  Okay, okay. Okay, hey, so shortly after the
• 1:01:49
  police kind of gave up on the Mary Hogan case, a rumor pops up
• 1:01:53
  in Planes Field, playing field a couple of teenage boys are like
• 1:01:58
  Ed has shrunken heads in his house and like The thing is,
• 1:02:04
  like, some of those teenagers, he had helped write, you know,
• 1:02:06
  he'd been babysitting. So he let them come to his
• 1:02:08
  house. Even though it was like a total
• 1:02:09
  mass, it was like, full of like, rodent droppings and food on the
• 1:02:13
  floor, and gross Nest. He still at them, come over and
• 1:02:16
  they would like play cards, I guess there was a clean-ish
• 1:02:18
  room. And just like that, Ed's has
• 1:02:26
  like no one could come back to the house now.
• 1:02:28
  Hmm, after the rumors start popping up at one point though,
• 1:02:32
  I've only say like 56, he offered to swap houses with
• 1:02:38
  somebody like for a smaller home and like the lady was like,
• 1:02:43
  well, it's 185 Acres that would be great.
• 1:02:45
  So she went to the house and like, looked around and it like,
• 1:02:48
  I guess it had been semi cleaned up at that point and At one
• 1:02:53
  point, she like he was like, she was like, oh, what's in that
• 1:02:55
  room? And he's like, that's just a
• 1:02:57
  storage area. Like it's a bunch of junk in
• 1:02:59
  there. You don't have to look at that.
• 1:03:01
  And so she was like, oh, is that where you keep your shrunken
• 1:03:04
  heads? And he was like, no, they're in
• 1:03:06
  the other room. Oh, he was being serious though.
• 1:03:09
  But like nobody really. They were like, ha, you're so
• 1:03:11
  funny and she ended up not like, buying his house for her house,
• 1:03:16
  but that was another one of those weird situations where
• 1:03:18
  there were lots of situations like that that happen around
• 1:03:20
  town were like people would ask him questions.
• 1:03:23
  And like they thought he was just joking but you know, I'm
• 1:03:24
  sorry Syria and telling the truth.
• 1:03:26
  No, I got heads, you want to see him November 16th 1957.
• 1:03:32
  Local people discovered that Bernice Worden is missing.
• 1:03:34
  She owned a hardware store in town and residents said that the
• 1:03:38
  hardware store truck had been driven from the rear of the
• 1:03:40
  building at about 9:30 a.m. her son, was the deputy sheriff, and
• 1:03:46
  he visited the story at 5 and saw that the cash register was
• 1:03:49
  open and there was blood on the floor and the last like this.
• 1:03:53
  The time period where people had to write receipts and that was
• 1:03:55
  those two layers. Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  So the print, the last receipt that had been written was for a
• 1:04:00
  gene for, for antifreeze that. He was supposed to come, pick up
• 1:04:06
  the next morning. Oh, you write your names and
• 1:04:08
  everything on it? Yeah, right.
• 1:04:09
  Like, oh again, picking up antifreeze, you know, morning
• 1:04:12
  whatever. Okay, so the following morning,
• 1:04:17
  the police don't wait and they go to The Farmhouse to talk to
• 1:04:21
  add about the missing Hardware. Store owner, and I guess he's
• 1:04:25
  somewhere on the property, but like not immediate.
• 1:04:28
  So they just like, kind of walk in the house because they're
• 1:04:29
  like, it's the 1950s, we don't have rules.
• 1:04:34
  You should have had rules. Well, there's Farmhouse.
• 1:04:37
  Why say it was bad. John Crichton garbage all over
• 1:04:40
  on the floors. They said the smell of
• 1:04:42
  decomposition and decomposition in filth is all over the
• 1:04:45
  property, a local sheriff named Arthur Shelly inspected the
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  kitchen, and he bumped into now. Okay, multiple, some people say
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  this was like a shed and some people say this was the kitchen.
• 1:04:57
  So there are multiple sources that say but regardless he was
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  looking around with his light and he bumped into a carcass
• 1:05:07
  hanging from the beams in the beams, okay?
• 1:05:11
  It had been decapitated slit open, got it and at first, like
• 1:05:15
  his brain was like, oh yeah, whatever, dear.
• 1:05:17
  And then he was like, no, no, that's not a deer.
• 1:05:21
  That's the body of a person. It was the body of Bernice
• 1:05:25
  Worden the mother of his coworker, Frank Then more police
• 1:05:30
  came. They took a down to a police
• 1:05:32
  station to talk to him and took inventory of the items on the
• 1:05:35
  farm and I have read this list once before on Tick-Tock.
• 1:05:38
  Yes I've truncated it's somewhat.
• 1:05:43
  So while looking through his house they find four noses whole
• 1:05:47
  human bones fragments 9 masks made of human skin bowls made
• 1:05:51
  from human skulls, ten, female heads with the top part of the
• 1:05:55
  skull. Shaved off.
• 1:05:56
  Human skin covering several cheese.
• 1:05:59
  These chairs. Mary Hogan's head in a paper
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  bag. Bernice worden's head in a
• 1:06:04
  burlap. Sack 9 vulvas in a shoebox.
• 1:06:08
  Skulls on his bed post organs in the refrigerator, a pair of lips
• 1:06:14
  on a drawstring. For the window, shade in his
• 1:06:17
  room, a belt made from Human nipples, a lampshade made from
• 1:06:22
  the skin of a human face. And of course the one that
• 1:06:24
  everybody knows the most the corset made out of breasts and
• 1:06:31
  he had a skin suit. It was a whole people suit.
• 1:06:35
  Yes. And he had put together over
• 1:06:36
  time, all these items were I've cataloged and then reburied you
• 1:06:40
  are welcome to look for them. I this is one of the few things
• 1:06:42
  that I found repulsive like the shoes.
• 1:06:45
  Yeah, I've seen pictures. They were like, it's just I
• 1:06:49
  could when I made that video, you were like, look at these.
• 1:06:53
  I did too. And as a know what?
• 1:06:54
  I should have looked like, I don't know, there were a pair of
• 1:06:56
  shoes and they just looked so bad, they're a pair of heels.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah, he must have stolen them from my cold dead body and like
• 1:07:03
  covered them in flesh. It was awful.
• 1:07:05
  That's exactly what he did. But the bigger Question was to
• 1:07:09
  find out like, how did you get these?
• 1:07:13
  The police began his major excavation of the property.
• 1:07:16
  To make sure there weren't any bodies buried on top of what
• 1:07:18
  they found. The house, he's being
• 1:07:20
  interviewed at what Toma County jail house by investigators.
• 1:07:23
  He doesn't talk for the first day and then, after a whole day
• 1:07:26
  of Silence, he tells he's like, okay, I killed mrs.
• 1:07:28
  Wharton. And then he says, I felt the
• 1:07:30
  rest of the bodies at the local Cemetery.
• 1:07:34
  Well, the problem with that is Mary Hogan's head, is in a paper
• 1:07:37
  bag, and you definitely didn't find her in the cemetery.
• 1:07:40
  No, you did not. So they're like, so they there's
• 1:07:45
  more interrogation there. And so finally, he says he
• 1:07:48
  killed Mary Hogan to, he said he didn't remember doing it, but he
• 1:07:52
  accidentally shocked like shot her and that sometimes he would
• 1:07:57
  just like, leave his house in the middle of the night and he
• 1:07:59
  was in like a trance. He would just go to the
• 1:08:00
  cemetery. Hmm.
• 1:08:03
  Throughout the entire investigation, though.
• 1:08:04
  He showed almost no sign of remorse or any emotion actually.
• 1:08:08
  Like everything was always factual and to the point
• 1:08:11
  Sometimes he even like smiled, when he was telling people all
• 1:08:14
  the stuff he did. He had no real understanding of
• 1:08:17
  how these crimes are affecting his community, or the entire
• 1:08:20
  country for that matter. As, for prepping for trial, the
• 1:08:25
  courts immediately submitted him to a lot of doctors for tests
• 1:08:30
  psychologist and psychiatrist. Immediately said that he was a
• 1:08:33
  sexual psychopath due to his extremely unhealthy
• 1:08:36
  relationship, between him and his mother, and his very
• 1:08:38
  confusing feelings about sex and sexuality that His mother kind
• 1:08:42
  of beat into him through that, he had learned to sort of love
• 1:08:46
  and hate women, and this was his way of dealing with that, after
• 1:08:52
  a really big Court battle actually, because the police
• 1:08:54
  were like, there's no way for us to tell that these came from
• 1:08:58
  the, the places where he said, unless we exhume the, the
• 1:09:02
  cemetery spots that he told us to write, so, there was a fight
• 1:09:05
  over whether they should even do that.
• 1:09:09
  And so, they eventually did manage to get that.
• 1:09:11
  That exhumation order. And when they opened the dug up,
• 1:09:15
  the graves, the coffins did show signs of tampering, and a lot of
• 1:09:19
  the coffins showed sections of bodies removed.
• 1:09:24
  Okay, as for the city of Plainfield.
• 1:09:28
  The town is besieged by fans people trying to get a glimpse
• 1:09:32
  of the game property. Reporters trying to get a story
• 1:09:35
  psychiatrists and psychologists trying to talk to Ed showing up
• 1:09:39
  at the precinct. Thousands of people are showing
• 1:09:42
  up and the company that was handling the sale of the state
• 1:09:50
  like talked about how they were going to charge 50 cents for
• 1:09:52
  people to see the house and the townspeople were like, no, your
• 1:09:55
  mind. Didn't happen but it didn't
• 1:09:59
  matter anyway because on March 28th 1958 the Plainfield.
• 1:10:03
  Volunteer fire department got a phone call that the gene house
• 1:10:06
  is on fire. There you go.
• 1:10:08
  It very quickly. Burned to the ground before
• 1:10:10
  anyone could get there police assumed arson, because the house
• 1:10:13
  had no electricity and despite they try to do a very like
• 1:10:18
  thorough investigation, nobody was ever charged because there
• 1:10:21
  was nothing. Did they know?
• 1:10:24
  You know, I found nothing to say that of the You know, different
• 1:10:28
  of the sort. Uh-huh.
• 1:10:30
  The Gein farm equipment though was auctioned off and so was the
• 1:10:33
  car that sold for seven hundred sixty dollars which is about
• 1:10:38
  seven thousand dollars in. Today's money it was put on the
• 1:10:41
  county fair circuit as the Google car.
• 1:10:43
  Oh God because at how to use it to haul the dead bodies.
• 1:10:48
  As for Ed's fate, after he spent 10 years in a mental health
• 1:10:51
  facility, the court decided he was cognizant enough to stand
• 1:10:55
  trial and the proceedings for that started January 22nd 1968
• 1:11:00
  but the full trial didn't start until November 7th. 1968, the
• 1:11:04
  main like, testimony was from like lab technicians and the
• 1:11:11
  sheriff and the deputy sheriff and he was found guilty but the
• 1:11:15
  problem was he was deemed that he was saying when the I'm
• 1:11:18
  happened. So ultimately, they send him
• 1:11:21
  back to the facility where he spent the rest of his life, he
• 1:11:25
  was a model patient and actually like every single doctor
• 1:11:28
  interviewed post, who dealt with him said that he was almost
• 1:11:31
  docile. It was white.
• 1:11:33
  Like they were like, we don't understand how this person did
• 1:11:36
  this stuff shows like no signs of anything.
• 1:11:39
  He liked is just the. Yeah.
• 1:11:41
  But I'm also assuming it was probably heavily medicated at
• 1:11:43
  that point to. Hmm, he died of respiratory
• 1:11:47
  failure. I'm 77 years old on July 26
• 1:11:50
  1984, and he was buried with a gravestone, but because True
• 1:11:55
  Crime folks are awful. Of course, they begun breaking
• 1:11:59
  pieces off of it. And like, if you look at the I
• 1:12:00
  found a picture of it like it had chunks like missing and then
• 1:12:04
  finally somebody stole the grave marker in 2000.
• 1:12:08
  So now he's buried in an unmarked grave between his
• 1:12:11
  parents and his brother. So you'd have to look up like
• 1:12:13
  County records right to find out where his parents and his
• 1:12:17
  brother are. Read to be able to find out
• 1:12:19
  where he's been buried. Damn, that's fucked up.
• 1:12:21
  Yeah. And you talk about him being
• 1:12:24
  grave-robber, you guys are robbing so from his grave,
• 1:12:26
  right? I know that, you know, what's
• 1:12:29
  that word pot calling the kettle black, maybe Paco.
• 1:12:33
  Ironic. That's a, that's like his irony
• 1:12:35
  that ironic. This is iris is really ironic.
• 1:12:38
  This is kind of ironic or is it a traffic jam?
• 1:12:41
  We're already late. That's the end for me.
• 1:12:46
  Yeah, I actually, I always do what Ed Gein did but I didn't
• 1:12:51
  know the full scope of the the family.
• 1:12:52
  Familial relationship, which is what I've been thinking about
• 1:12:55
  and reading about. I didn't know any of that back
• 1:12:58
  story at all. So, there we go.
• 1:13:01
  I just knew about the body part here, the body parts in size a
• 1:13:05
  little lamb stuff, and I was like, oh, that's disgusting.
• 1:13:09
  Yeah, I wonder, I sometimes wonder if he ever knew that
• 1:13:12
  there were all these movies that were made based on like his
• 1:13:15
  debauchery. Maybe he's in hell, just looking
• 1:13:17
  up and saying, huh, interesting and you guys are all fucked up.
• 1:13:37
  All right, so I have been trying to honor some requests.
• 1:13:42
  I've been getting, we just got an email.
• 1:13:47
  He's got an email last week about from somebody, you know it
• 1:13:51
  pays. Yeah, it pays off to wine is
• 1:13:56
  what I gotta say. It pays off.
• 1:13:58
  I think you're being salty. I think his caddy yells.
• 1:14:02
  Akt our caddies. Yeah, a type-0 Katie but But
• 1:14:08
  she's the first person who used our official websites email
• 1:14:13
  email option, like send us a message.
• 1:14:15
  Yeah, oops. I do appreciate your email and I
• 1:14:20
  will cover one of the one of those two stories that you sent
• 1:14:22
  me in at a later date. Cookie stories about Georgia.
• 1:14:26
  Yeah, but yeah, thanks for having us.
• 1:14:30
  Yes, I do appreciate it. Um, the reason why I'm not
• 1:14:34
  covering any of those other two Georgia stories is because as
• 1:14:37
  I'm off, I was already covering a Georgia story that I really
• 1:14:41
  almost picked a Georgian serial killer to be on brand.
• 1:14:45
  But I don't know. Wisconsin was just in my mind.
• 1:14:48
  Let me ask me. Yeah, these past couple weeks.
• 1:14:50
  I like never mind when who has cancer?
• 1:14:54
  No. Bad back your hands or oh my
• 1:15:00
  goodness. Anyway, I got a so before like
• 1:15:07
  when we first started the podcast, I was telling one of my
• 1:15:10
  co-workers about it. Bringing those who I'm talking
• 1:15:12
  about, it's one guy who works on the weekends, he probably never
• 1:15:16
  listens to the podcast. You know, who I'm talking about
• 1:15:18
  that. Look on your face.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah. That one, the Brittany does not
• 1:15:21
  like alcohol when it comes to work.
• 1:15:25
  You just need people to be there and do their jobs, okay?
• 1:15:28
  If you do it you are there and you were do your job, I like
• 1:15:31
  you. But If you're not there, you
• 1:15:34
  don't show up or you call out randomly and then a certain
• 1:15:38
  someone sitting across from me at the podcast table has to you
• 1:15:42
  know, handle that. And work 14-hour shift.
• 1:15:48
  Then I'm not your biggest fan. She's not your biggest fan, I
• 1:15:51
  don't think you. Look, he listens to the podcast,
• 1:15:53
  but I don't fucking care. Does you're going to have an
• 1:15:54
  awkward day? One day is probably like one
• 1:16:00
  Friday, he's probably going to come into work and I should be
• 1:16:01
  in the building and be like I heard your podcast last week
• 1:16:05
  like you know podcast from several months ago you don't
• 1:16:09
  like me. Oh no, dude.
• 1:16:11
  Like you're okay. Like you're a cool dude.
• 1:16:13
  But work is exit. Ask him to call me.
• 1:16:17
  I'll Thank you and I'll tell you anyway.
• 1:16:23
  He did suggest me to cover this interesting story.
• 1:16:27
  Oh well, look at that in Georgia.
• 1:16:30
  The time about three guilty folks.
• 1:16:32
  I'm here. What is it?
• 1:16:35
  So like I said today will be heading to Georgia where the
• 1:16:38
  peach Emoji lives. This is a fun.
• 1:16:49
  This is a fun time today. This is why I pick things that
• 1:16:55
  frustrate you. This is why I pick things that
• 1:16:57
  annoy you, okay? Then isolate think that I knew
• 1:17:00
  you was Payback. Now, I don't know much about,
• 1:17:04
  you know, the state Georgia, my grandma was from there, you
• 1:17:08
  know, I never lived in Georgia, I visitor, I hear macon's
• 1:17:12
  terrible though. Alright mom, PLS are terrible.
• 1:17:15
  Actually yeah. Doesn't everybody feel that way
• 1:17:18
  about their Hometown, those true?
• 1:17:19
  I've never been so many was like, wow, I just really love
• 1:17:22
  where I grew up. Everybody's always like super
• 1:17:25
  mad. Like, how dare I grew up here?
• 1:17:30
  But yeah, it's not a bad place to visit.
• 1:17:32
  Sometimes I'll write you drew you drove down there.
• 1:17:35
  When yeah, I drive through there, sometimes to go to
• 1:17:38
  Florida dreadknight that. I think the last time I took me
• 1:17:41
  about 17 hours ago, a heart. So, anyway, that sounds awful,
• 1:17:47
  have you heard of like linear It's drawing a blank right now.
• 1:17:54
  You have not was surprising. Currently has been all over
• 1:17:57
  Tick-Tock and I'll explain that later.
• 1:18:01
  I'll explain that later. Yeah, but like linear.
• 1:18:04
  I'm sure most people who are listening or some people
• 1:18:07
  listening who know about spooky stuff, no Lake Lanier.
• 1:18:12
  You know, it's pretty cool place to visit.
• 1:18:16
  But you know it always he wasn't a like you know like most likes
• 1:18:19
  it was actually a man-made lake. Okay.
• 1:18:24
  So I'm give you some backstory of Lake, okay?
• 1:18:27
  So like when the air is Georges largest lake and its it was made
• 1:18:34
  after the construction of the Buford.
• 1:18:37
  Damn. So this is one of two bodies of
• 1:18:41
  water that are named after Georgia Georgia, born poet.
• 1:18:48
  His name is Sidney Lanier. Okay, sit in the mirror.
• 1:18:52
  He was born in 1842. He wasn't only a poet.
• 1:18:56
  He was a musician and author and he served for the Confederate in
• 1:19:02
  the Army. Okay, the savour, you know, you
• 1:19:05
  know what? I'm excited for so you know how,
• 1:19:08
  you know, you know, you know, help people who are not fans of
• 1:19:11
  the Confederacy here. We're really not sorry.
• 1:19:15
  Um, but apparently, he was even a lawyer.
• 1:19:18
  So, you know, apparently this guy was the shit.
• 1:19:21
  Okay. That in his time.
• 1:19:25
  And this time is it now? And no, not not alone, in his
• 1:19:29
  time in the area. Oh my God, I'm sorry.
• 1:19:40
  Okay. So anyway, so how did it come to
• 1:19:42
  be well? Like I mentioned before it was a
• 1:19:46
  man-made lake made as a result of a dam being built.
• 1:19:52
  Now, the lake was built, was finished in 1956, but it was
• 1:20:01
  before it was set to be made before that Anakin 1940, like
• 1:20:04
  1946, 1946. So that 10 years earlier, the
• 1:20:09
  government had commissioned, The the US Army Corp of Engineers
• 1:20:19
  deconstructed. Damn.
• 1:20:21
  Now what was the reason for this damn?
• 1:20:23
  Well it was for controlling flooding help provide a water
• 1:20:30
  source for Atlanta and around that area surrounding area and
• 1:20:36
  it was help, it was used to help the power homes as well so they
• 1:20:40
  use hydroelectricity cool. Yeah.
• 1:20:42
  Yeah, that's very awesome. I like just like, you know.
• 1:20:47
  Yeah, yeah. So yeah, could you talk about
• 1:20:51
  how like, how many people died during the creation of the
• 1:20:54
  Hoover Dam? Oh my God, a lot.
• 1:20:58
  We're going to be talking about people dying.
• 1:20:59
  All right? Oh, So yeah, the US like I said,
• 1:21:04
  use government, they test US Army Corp of Engineers with
• 1:21:08
  building Lake Lanier and conjunction to what the Buford.
• 1:21:15
  Damn, this is really throwing me for a loop.
• 1:21:17
  Why don't I know anything about what you're talking about?
• 1:21:19
  I don't know. I think I just heard about it
• 1:21:21
  this year, too. So, there you go.
• 1:21:25
  So this is this was almost a 45 million dollar.
• 1:21:31
  It had a 45 million dollar budget for this British creation
• 1:21:35
  of damn other than when and what time period was this 19 as well.
• 1:21:40
  1950s. That's a lot of money.
• 1:21:42
  Yeah, it is. I don't even want to know how
• 1:21:45
  much it is now. I don't want to know.
• 1:21:50
  So, why do they meet as much money to make a lake and a damn?
• 1:21:55
  How? Well, it is.
• 1:21:56
  It, it's pretty big. I didn't like download the
• 1:21:59
  specifics, I'm terrible research and it's going to say that Brian
• 1:22:04
  cares. More about the, The Spook in the
• 1:22:06
  story aspects and the background research, I'm not the best part
• 1:22:10
  about that. Is that you asking me things
• 1:22:11
  that I don't think to look up. You're like, well, how big is
• 1:22:15
  this force in Australia? And I'm like, I did ask you
• 1:22:18
  this. It's like a huge man.
• 1:22:21
  A big. This lake is the biggest in
• 1:22:23
  Georgia. That's all.
• 1:22:24
  I'm gonna. That's all I know about it.
• 1:22:26
  Okay. So, they needed this much money
• 1:22:30
  because they had to buy land. Oh, right?
• 1:22:35
  What we call that again, Americans, just take people's
• 1:22:38
  land. What is that called?
• 1:22:41
  What is like, I actually do the indigenous people, what's it
• 1:22:45
  called again, appropriate? Nope, nope, nope.
• 1:22:50
  It'll come to me randomly. Yeah, yeah, I'm drunk goodness
• 1:22:54
  gracious. What is that called?
• 1:22:57
  Something Destiny, something. Oh, management Manifest.
• 1:23:02
  This is like one step above Manifest Destiny because he get
• 1:23:05
  the, you getting money from. Hey, but they still like treat
• 1:23:08
  you like garbage. Basically, we'll get into that
• 1:23:11
  later as well. That shit was help people too.
• 1:23:18
  So, like I said, headed by land, but the problem was that there
• 1:23:22
  were already towns, and people living here, their whole lives,
• 1:23:25
  whole towns towns. There's your little daughter
• 1:23:29
  towns in this. There's like a whole area that
• 1:23:32
  they had to buy. It's got a pretty big then.
• 1:23:35
  I do have how many 56,000 acres of land, that's how much they
• 1:23:43
  had to buy. Massive.
• 1:23:46
  That's not a lake. That's like a little baby ocean.
• 1:23:51
  That's pretty 6,000 acres of land.
• 1:23:54
  Oh my gosh that this they had to buy.
• 1:23:58
  So not only did they have like you know, people farms and they
• 1:24:03
  had businesses there, they had churches there, they had a
• 1:24:06
  cemetery there and people had their own personal family,
• 1:24:09
  cemeteries there to freeze. What do you do about that?
• 1:24:13
  I mean, I mean, okay, there have been situations locally around
• 1:24:16
  here. My understand about cemeteries
• 1:24:19
  that were okay. So what they were supposed to do
• 1:24:23
  was move people, they happen in Philadelphia outside of
• 1:24:25
  Philadelphia, but instead, what they ended up doing which is
• 1:24:28
  building on top of it and then like decades later, finding out
• 1:24:31
  that there were still like dozens of graves underneath the
• 1:24:36
  houses in town, this sounds like Portuguese.
• 1:24:39
  I think this is kind of where that was because it was really
• 1:24:44
  common. Yeah.
• 1:24:46
  Like so much work to move all these gravestones.
• 1:24:49
  What if we just move some of these Graves?
• 1:24:51
  What if we just move the gravestones and nobody will
• 1:24:55
  know, that's definitely Poltergeist my God.
• 1:24:57
  Yeah, no, I didn't realize that and I'm the white ever be that
• 1:25:00
  reference. But like, I definitely remember
• 1:25:01
  hearing about that about a cemetery that was like on the
• 1:25:06
  outskirts of Philadelphia and then as Philadelphia got bigger,
• 1:25:10
  they needed to move it and they just didn't.
• 1:25:13
  And then like we're talking years and years later, they
• 1:25:15
  found Old stuff from back then. And then also, when I was living
• 1:25:20
  there, they found underneath like Center City.
• 1:25:25
  The old like foundations Old Philadelphia, she's slave
• 1:25:30
  houses. Do not were owned by Good Old
• 1:25:35
  Ben Franklin. Fucking course been frankly you
• 1:25:37
  douchebag anyway and they actually what they did was they
• 1:25:40
  like didn't move them or anything.
• 1:25:42
  They just put like a nice plexiglass, spot above it and
• 1:25:46
  like a No place for people could look in, I don't know if it's
• 1:25:48
  still there. It was there years ago, but
• 1:25:50
  like, they didn't want to move it.
• 1:25:51
  They were like, this is historical Philadelphia.
• 1:25:53
  Like, you know why? I think he's a douche bag.
• 1:25:55
  Why Daylight Savings Time daylight, saving time.
• 1:25:58
  Why do we do that? We still do it.
• 1:26:01
  It's weird. No reason.
• 1:26:02
  No reason for us to keep doing that, like back then.
• 1:26:04
  Okay, cool nowadays? Fuck?
• 1:26:06
  No. You don't need that.
• 1:26:08
  I guess it's not dishes. No, I get the sun that's still
• 1:26:12
  up at like, what time is it now, 8:30, it's a Ladies, let's do
• 1:26:17
  it. I like the Sun up at 8:30, don't
• 1:26:20
  know? Okay, this is cool when it flips
• 1:26:22
  and that's that's that's we're talking about, I'm talking about
• 1:26:24
  the flipping market like five. Yes.
• 1:26:27
  Then I like leave in the morning is dark and I come home and it's
• 1:26:30
  dark. Yeah.
• 1:26:30
  And I'm just a person of the dark.
• 1:26:32
  That's what I don't like is when it flips.
• 1:26:34
  Now this time it's also I think summer time for that because the
• 1:26:37
  sun still up but any other time. Yeah.
• 1:26:39
  Well that's interesting. Finding like so.
• 1:26:41
  Did they do they do it the right way.
• 1:26:43
  So Ryan did they do it the right way?
• 1:26:45
  So they Paid to have these bodies moved.
• 1:26:49
  Okay, I'm not sure about all of the personal family Graves.
• 1:26:55
  Look into that later. Oh, sounds bad.
• 1:27:00
  So now the buying started, you know, buying a lamb started with
• 1:27:05
  an 81-year old. His name was Henry Chadbourne
• 1:27:09
  yeah. Be nice to Henry.
• 1:27:10
  Yeah he sold his land for four thousand one hundred dollars.
• 1:27:14
  That's good mind before you $100.
• 1:27:16
  Yeah. That's not bad by another house
• 1:27:17
  for that. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:27:19
  Now, do you think o of the buying of land?
• 1:27:22
  You know what this movie of listener?
• 1:27:24
  No, of course not. Fuck course not a lot of people
• 1:27:27
  were like, fuck this like my great great.
• 1:27:30
  Great grandpa left me this land and I'll be damned if I'm going
• 1:27:33
  to sell it. I'm gonna be honest though, like
• 1:27:36
  my my dad, my parents have a house here and like if somebody
• 1:27:39
  was like, listen, we're just going to raise that entire area
• 1:27:42
  and make a giant Park here. The river I'd be like, how what
• 1:27:48
  you what you selling for ya? Like millions of dollars.
• 1:27:51
  I just buy more land somewhere else.
• 1:27:53
  Exactly. I'm not fighting with the
• 1:27:56
  government because then what they do is they Manifest Destiny
• 1:27:58
  and you get nothing. Exactly.
• 1:28:00
  They go like, listen everybody in your community is sold except
• 1:28:03
  for you, that's like going to take it.
• 1:28:05
  Now, what is it? It's a it's like from up in
• 1:28:08
  your. Yeah, you're you're you're
• 1:28:10
  stopping like Community Development or growth or
• 1:28:13
  whatever solar building around your small a tiny house.
• 1:28:17
  Oh my God. Yeah, so I would just do it.
• 1:28:20
  So I feel, I understand it, but I understand people wanting to
• 1:28:23
  fight for their ancestral homes and lands, but I'll have it in
• 1:28:26
  me to fight the US government. Sorry, I'm not a freedom
• 1:28:30
  fighter. I think I wrote that in here,
• 1:28:31
  somewhere. That like you, like if someone
• 1:28:34
  offered me enough, then I'd fucking take it.
• 1:28:37
  Like, I'm sorry, my ancestors are going to be proud of me for
• 1:28:39
  making that much money. That's why I'm saying I can just
• 1:28:41
  listen, we got to have a new ancestral.
• 1:28:43
  My God, hell yeah. Future Generations.
• 1:28:46
  They be like You had that little like half acre and now you got
• 1:28:49
  20. Hmm, upgrade you.
• 1:28:52
  There you go. Thank you.
• 1:28:53
  Thank you. Thank you for your great grandpa
• 1:28:55
  for leaving me this land so I can sell it and then upgrade my
• 1:28:57
  land. Thank you.
• 1:28:58
  So actually, I understand. Yeah, so some refused to leave
• 1:29:03
  their homes, of course, and some even filed civil action suits
• 1:29:08
  against the government as happens.
• 1:29:11
  So I wrote this as a side note, they had to move it was 50s
• 1:29:17
  families that needed to be relocated and we honed okay?
• 1:29:23
  I forget how many businesses are like 17 businesses.
• 1:29:25
  I think about that around the whole town.
• 1:29:28
  That's a whole freaking Town. Yeah.
• 1:29:31
  Um so some people were even removed from their land by
• 1:29:37
  force. I knew it and their lands
• 1:29:39
  seized. Dang it.
• 1:29:41
  No, for the people who said their land whoo-hoo Soldier
• 1:29:45
  land, Sing that kind of money before so there is like, yeah,
• 1:29:50
  do it. I can buy better land for less
• 1:29:52
  money somewhere, right? Oh, that's where I wrote my
• 1:29:55
  grandparents. My ancestors would be proud of
• 1:29:58
  me. That's right, agree.
• 1:29:59
  Absolutely, either way, the cleared, all the land of people
• 1:30:04
  in started filling the area with water.
• 1:30:06
  Now, of course any building that was made out of wood, of course,
• 1:30:12
  since it was since it would Float.
• 1:30:13
  By the way, what they just saw. Filling it, they don't know.
• 1:30:38
  So there's still like, buildings down there that were made out of
• 1:30:40
  concrete and, you know, Stone and shit.
• 1:30:43
  There's a heaven, Atlantis. At the bottom of the year.
• 1:30:45
  It's an underwater town, weird or area City or whatever you
• 1:30:51
  want to call it. That's weird.
• 1:30:53
  Yeah. Where's that?
• 1:30:57
  Okay, March 1st 1950, they began the construction of the dam and
• 1:31:03
  it took six years from the complete the dam.
• 1:31:06
  And after that, 1956 is when the is the year that they started
• 1:31:09
  filling up the area with water, they fill the valleys and it
• 1:31:14
  took about three to five years, okay?
• 1:31:16
  From the film. So after, you know, after that,
• 1:31:20
  it's Phil, you gotta like now ye right where no one can is living
• 1:31:24
  around it. Can I build some land around the
• 1:31:26
  lake or a probably not? I don't think so.
• 1:31:30
  Okay, like it wasn't made for people to live around is just
• 1:31:33
  made for like that's really exactly.
• 1:31:36
  So, it's not even a pretty place.
• 1:31:37
  Like, I'd be like, okay, you baby this money for my land?
• 1:31:40
  Can I have like a beachfront property?
• 1:31:42
  Actually, a lot of people visit her, like, every year, a lot of
• 1:31:45
  people visitor, but it's not like a, it's not supposed to
• 1:31:48
  happen as soon as you leave. I'm going to Google and see if
• 1:31:52
  people have done deep sea diving and like her near.
• 1:31:54
  Yeah. To look at these property, like
• 1:31:57
  these stuff underground. Yeah, they really, that looks
• 1:32:00
  that sounds super interesting. The picture I'm terrified of
• 1:32:03
  deep-sea diving myself because the idea of seeing corpse body,
• 1:32:06
  Uh, yeah. But underwater pictures like
• 1:32:09
  that. Like the old building stuff.
• 1:32:11
  Yeah. Like it's pretty cool looking.
• 1:32:13
  He lets me to put on another one of those breathing apparatus
• 1:32:16
  has. I'm not going to do that once.
• 1:32:18
  Never again. So we're going to get into the
• 1:32:22
  spooky section of the case of the this is a lot of interesting
• 1:32:25
  history honestly. Yeah so this is the the curse.
• 1:32:29
  Okay of Lake Lanier turn it up for week 23.
• 1:32:34
  Yeah. So from goodness 1998, 29 32
• 1:32:43
  2018 there were 57 boating. Fatalities that took place and
• 1:32:50
  100 people were supposed to go there to like goof off.
• 1:32:52
  I told you they like the government says, it's not a
• 1:32:56
  tourist place, you're not supposed to go there, but people
• 1:32:59
  just visit. Okay.
• 1:33:00
  They just like to have a whole. You see pictures like Lake
• 1:33:03
  Michigan bad, I'm not sure. Cause, like, like, was it like
• 1:33:06
  Superior Lake superior's? The one that's like so cold.
• 1:33:09
  That if you dispose a body of it, there it won't float to the
• 1:33:12
  surface because it will never grow the bacteria.
• 1:33:14
  Need to float. No, it's not like that.
• 1:33:16
  Not that bad. Okay.
• 1:33:17
  It's not like because it's in Georgia.
• 1:33:19
  So yeah. True.
• 1:33:20
  George is a little warmer than up north.
• 1:33:22
  It's yeah, it's the State of Florida so he is always going to
• 1:33:24
  be fucking warm. Didn't know what snow is?
• 1:33:27
  Yeah. Like never that way neither is
• 1:33:28
  still in Atlanta and there's like this much snow and people
• 1:33:30
  abandon their cars on the road. It was like 2 inches of snow,
• 1:33:34
  I'm sorry. Georgia people, we don't laugh a
• 1:33:36
  terrified. We don't laugh at you because
• 1:33:39
  you don't like those kind of laughs in us getting like three
• 1:33:41
  feet in one day this year. And I got to go to school and
• 1:33:44
  work. Oh my God.
• 1:33:45
  But basically pick me up in his firefighter.
• 1:33:49
  Yeah, that's how bad the snow was, but like places, like, in
• 1:33:53
  Georgia or Texas like Texas this year, they had that snowstorm
• 1:33:57
  like, that was terrible. Yeah.
• 1:33:59
  Everything was freezing and people were dying.
• 1:34:01
  Yeah. It fucking terrible and like,
• 1:34:03
  places, like that didn't have, like, the stuff set up like us
• 1:34:07
  up north, you know, we're like, snow looks like we probably
• 1:34:10
  don't have a lot of well, when the power went out that one time
• 1:34:14
  ever, we were kids. Yeah.
• 1:34:15
  Yeah, and like, it's that Eastern Seaboard.
• 1:34:19
  I thought we were children. When that happened.
• 1:34:22
  How old was I? When I don't know.
• 1:34:23
  I'm not glad we're children. There you go.
• 1:34:33
  Oh goodness, okay so oh, wonderful, 25.
• 1:34:37
  People drowned between that. Okay.
• 1:34:40
  And the last like 50 years, okay?
• 1:34:42
  I think it's probably worth the beach but then again, you a
• 1:34:44
  supposed to be here. Hold on.
• 1:34:46
  I didn't get to the big numbers yet 2015, to 2018.
• 1:34:53
  There were 43 Lake related, deaths, and 1228 boating
• 1:34:59
  accidents, not fatalities, which accident accident.
• 1:35:02
  These people didn't die. So there are an unusually high
• 1:35:08
  amount of deaths from the lake. There are an estimated amount of
• 1:35:14
  675 deaths per year. No, since the like was
• 1:35:19
  completed. So since nineteen that's
• 1:35:21
  unusually high, I think, I think I assumed wherever there was
• 1:35:25
  water. People were doing stupid stuff
• 1:35:26
  and dying. Yeah, but not probably not as
• 1:35:29
  much as this, okay? So is this like haunted or
• 1:35:33
  cursed? So, there have been reports of
• 1:35:37
  people just Just um standing and they could be staining like at
• 1:35:45
  the shore and then they can take a step and then they just
• 1:35:48
  fucking like it. That's how dangerous this lake
• 1:35:51
  is. Oh, oh, I've been in stuff.
• 1:35:54
  Like I find that very unsettling.
• 1:35:56
  Yeah, like is I've been to Coastal beaches even on the East
• 1:35:59
  Coast where you can see where the drop off is from the the
• 1:36:05
  beach, like you can see there's like a couple feet of like
• 1:36:08
  safety and then all of a sudden just draw and it's not even like
• 1:36:10
  it's dropping down. Fee.
• 1:36:12
  No, but it's enough for me to be very to feel very yes.
• 1:36:16
  Yeah. Like, I need to be able to touch
• 1:36:19
  down with ease. Yeah.
• 1:36:20
  This like this is a man-made lake.
• 1:36:22
  It wasn't. Well, that makes sense too.
• 1:36:23
  Because like I'm sure it's probably like the erosion.
• 1:36:27
  Yeah, time, I don't know. So, I'm just freaks me out
• 1:36:31
  because I think about is, like how there was Pangaea and how
• 1:36:34
  the all the stuff fit together at one point and that there's
• 1:36:38
  little lines of like out where they just drops off.
• 1:36:41
  Off into like hundreds of feet. Yeah and I just frightens the
• 1:36:45
  crap out of me. Oh you're telling so since it's
• 1:36:50
  built over like the lake is built over or above whatever.
• 1:36:54
  It's built their churches underneath of it.
• 1:36:58
  I don't need to Lake and there's like I said, cemeteries were
• 1:37:00
  always Stone. You're right forgot.
• 1:37:03
  All about that churches cemeteries like some a cemetery
• 1:37:08
  and interpersonal cemeteries and like I said before, They
• 1:37:12
  actually removed all those body, just the personal ones.
• 1:37:14
  We don't know if all those bodies were removed, I don't
• 1:37:17
  even know if the main Cemetery, all those bodies were removed
• 1:37:20
  either. So people were just swimming in
• 1:37:22
  is Lake full of dead fucking bodies.
• 1:37:26
  I mean, and what we've talked about that and yeah, this is
• 1:37:28
  true, old bodies of water are not pools, are places where
• 1:37:33
  there are dead bodies, but this is a lake.
• 1:37:35
  The like, have you been in the Atlantic Ocean?
• 1:37:37
  Of course, that's what the Titanic song, Final, a dead
• 1:37:40
  body. He's everywhere.
• 1:37:42
  I'm just saying like, is it like a smaller about a smaller body
• 1:37:47
  of water, 50,000 Acres, or whatever?
• 1:37:50
  You said, earlier, I 46 be. There we go.
• 1:37:52
  I was close. That's a lot of Acres of water.
• 1:37:55
  Yeah, I would love to know how many gallons of water and I'm
• 1:37:58
  gonna google that later. But you know what happens when
• 1:38:01
  you go to over, or you desecrate some barrier around.
• 1:38:04
  Oh I sure. Do know.
• 1:38:05
  That's my favorite part of watching.
• 1:38:06
  Those shows. Boom, haunted.
• 1:38:08
  When somebody's like, yeah, I've been seeing this weird like
• 1:38:11
  Two-story figure just walking around outside my house.
• 1:38:15
  It's really creepy and the ladies like dude, that's
• 1:38:17
  definitely like an ancient being that is stalking this land.
• 1:38:23
  And it was, it was brought here to protect the land from the
• 1:38:27
  white people. Yes.
• 1:38:28
  During the time periods, when the indigenous folks were
• 1:38:30
  fighting against the white people, you should probably just
• 1:38:33
  leave. Yeah.
• 1:38:34
  Because you are white people. So go you go listen.
• 1:38:37
  If anybody like actual, like medium, I respect.
• 1:38:40
  It was like, you should just Go. Yeah, I'm like.
• 1:38:43
  Alright then. Alright.
• 1:38:43
  Alright, yes. So, Kardashian now, is not the
• 1:38:53
  time to buy a house, folks, so apparently is a bridge over the
• 1:38:57
  lake, our by the lake. Um, so cars mysteriously fall
• 1:39:01
  into the lake house, Walter brydges, silly.
• 1:39:06
  I have no idea. There are mysteriously.
• 1:39:10
  Like, I said, drownings, like, people can Be saving a knee-high
• 1:39:12
  water and then just drop the fuck off and to nothingness.
• 1:39:21
  And yeah I just want to see the bridge.
• 1:39:23
  That's what I'm looking for the picture right now.
• 1:39:25
  So I'm going to tell you this story.
• 1:39:27
  Is it lay near? Yeah.
• 1:39:29
  Well I've been here in Rainier linear.
• 1:39:32
  Linear my bad. I spelled it wrong to and Google
• 1:39:35
  and everything. It's like three start.
• 1:39:39
  Okay cute my God. Yeah or Islands.
• 1:39:43
  Yeah. How house way?
• 1:39:47
  Oh no. You got to look at it.
• 1:39:49
  You got to look at. Like I had some maps pulled up,
• 1:39:51
  like, of the whole area. No way.
• 1:39:54
  It's pretty crazy. I'm literally looking at a
• 1:39:56
  picture of gravestones underwater.
• 1:40:00
  Pretty fun crazy. That's so disrespectful.
• 1:40:02
  So, I'm gonna tell you the story, okay?
• 1:40:05
  Every case of a car going off of the the bridge, I'm looking at
• 1:40:10
  the bridges right now actually, Okay, and 1958 the lake is
• 1:40:15
  almost done. Like I said it took three years
• 1:40:17
  from 1956. Also doesn't make any logical
• 1:40:21
  sense. Its mass its not.
• 1:40:24
  Yeah well I think of a lake I think of like a big circular
• 1:40:27
  entity. Yeah this is weird and has
• 1:40:30
  branching paths. It's a yes man.
• 1:40:35
  Well I think of a man-made lake. I don't you don't think it you
• 1:40:37
  think of it being like uniform type of thing?
• 1:40:39
  Yeah, this this actually looks very natural.
• 1:40:42
  I Yeah, it was real, you're probably changed over two years
• 1:40:45
  Trail, you're right over the last 50 years nature, takes
• 1:40:49
  itself back when it wants to this is true.
• 1:40:51
  You write less what happened to the car that just fell in the
• 1:40:53
  water. Okay, 1958 the lake is almost
• 1:40:55
  done, I'm being filled two, young women.
• 1:40:59
  It's a Delia May Parker Young and Susie Roberts.
• 1:41:04
  They were crossing over Lumiere bridge when some for some odd
• 1:41:10
  reason, they lose control of the car.
• 1:41:12
  And end up in the lake. Okay.
• 1:41:15
  Did they survive? No I didn't know that.
• 1:41:17
  So search teams failed to find remains from either of these
• 1:41:23
  women and they filled a refined the vehicle there Joe, okay?
• 1:41:30
  The only indication of and is happening was skid marks From
• 1:41:36
  the car. And then somebody was like, yo,
• 1:41:38
  Susie, where you at? We've been waiting for you.
• 1:41:40
  Yeah, they make it home that night, Artie Lange.
• 1:41:44
  So 1959, a year later, fisherman finds a body floating in the
• 1:41:51
  lake but no one could have done. If I this person that's because
• 1:41:55
  of bloat and decomposition but they had noted that there's a
• 1:42:01
  body had no hands and was missing some toes.
• 1:42:07
  Are there animals in this Lake? I'm not sure.
• 1:42:09
  Probably probably. They also sometimes when we
• 1:42:11
  build our own year we build our own ecosystems.
• 1:42:14
  We will do that will be a year where to take a year for that to
• 1:42:17
  happen. Like you were animal that your
• 1:42:19
  hands off like easier than weeks, really?
• 1:42:23
  Yeah, like I said, nature claims our bodies rather fast.
• 1:42:27
  I mean, depending on how cold the water is too, okay?
• 1:42:32
  So 1990 about almost 30 years later.
• 1:42:36
  The lake is dredged up in preparation for New, Pair
• 1:42:39
  lawyers, for the bridge, where they found where they find a
• 1:42:46
  rusty car, nice. The same one Delia and Susie
• 1:42:52
  were driving. Don't want medially enthusiasts
• 1:42:55
  just very interesting. So sorry, I'm so interested on
• 1:42:59
  closer inspection. They find the remains of Susie
• 1:43:01
  Roberts and who, you know, her bones were in a car before, she
• 1:43:08
  drowned. Right.
• 1:43:11
  So leading officials to believe that the no-handed body was of
• 1:43:15
  Delia my issue with that is It's one, all of the body.
• 1:43:21
  Should have been bitten Nam Don. Mmm, only no hands.
• 1:43:27
  Only no hands and some toes were missing.
• 1:43:30
  No Hands. Feels like a mob hit.
• 1:43:32
  All right. This will have no teeth.
• 1:43:36
  This is as soon as I saw that, the body had no hand and no
• 1:43:39
  fingers or toes, I was like this.
• 1:43:42
  Where was that? Georgia.
• 1:43:44
  Hmm. This could just be like a racial
• 1:43:47
  thing. Maybe.
• 1:43:48
  Oh, no, that's what I was thinking.
• 1:43:50
  We're saying like oh, but if they were by then it was.
• 1:43:55
  Yeah, that's true. Maybe I don't know.
• 1:43:59
  Here we go. so after that, there have been Apparition sightings
• 1:44:09
  of a woman wearing a Blue Dress walking up and down the bridge.
• 1:44:16
  She's been singing having no hands, ah, at all.
• 1:44:23
  And apparently, Susie can be seen Susie's at Apparition that
• 1:44:27
  can be seen wandering. The back roads of Route 53,
• 1:44:31
  which heads across the bridge? Yep, oh, Susie poor girl.
• 1:44:36
  So, you know, this means I'm going to have to go through like
• 1:44:39
  Every season of Ghost Hunters to see if they went down they
• 1:44:42
  probably do. You know?
• 1:44:42
  They fucking did and Ghost Adventures all of them.
• 1:44:45
  I got to go see who's been down there.
• 1:44:46
  Exactly have I already watched this and I didn't remember.
• 1:44:49
  Probably I've so many ghost shows in my brain that I clearly
• 1:44:54
  may have forgotten. The like the seems to
• 1:44:56
  interesting for me to have never heard of it before.
• 1:44:58
  So I'm going to step away from the the ghost did a paranormal
• 1:45:02
  stuff for a second. Okay.
• 1:45:04
  And give you a little bit of different history.
• 1:45:07
  So I'd finish my research, right?
• 1:45:11
  I was talking to Terror today about it, and I was telling her,
• 1:45:14
  you know, well, it's covering and she's like, oh, I've heard
• 1:45:16
  about that. And I'm like, okay, cool.
• 1:45:19
  And she's like, yeah, it's been over Tick Tock.
• 1:45:21
  And I'm like, what the fuck you're talking about?
• 1:45:23
  And the irony, that the one thing you search suddenly went
• 1:45:27
  viral and Technology. Yeah, I know.
• 1:45:30
  Yeah, she's like yeah, a lot of people talking about it and how
• 1:45:34
  there was a racial cleansing that happened and that's why
• 1:45:40
  it's haunted. Was this A Sundown town?
• 1:45:44
  This was a Sundown County. Yep.
• 1:45:47
  Okay. That's why some folks didn't get
• 1:45:51
  no money. So me being me.
• 1:45:53
  I got, you know, I got look into it so I just before I came over
• 1:45:58
  here. No, it's all there.
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  Yeah, I mean, The majority of Sundown towns were actually in
• 1:46:02
  the north, but there were definitely enough in the South.
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  Yeah, that's the thing. I like to remind people in
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  there, like, the north was against slavery and blah, blah
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  blah. Like the North had towns, that
• 1:46:13
  would murder people if you didn't get out before dust.
• 1:46:16
  Okay, someday, but for now like, yeah, if you want her way out
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  and outdated, that's why the, the the blue book in the green
• 1:46:23
  book were even created. Yeah, as an almanac for
• 1:46:27
  specifically black travelers to know where it was.
• 1:46:30
  Was safe for you to stay when you were traveling across
• 1:46:35
  America because of Sundown towns.
• 1:46:36
  So, I love it and I love whenever it pops up in a pop
• 1:46:40
  culture. Yeah, happened with that HBO
• 1:46:43
  show. Lovecraft country.
• 1:46:44
  Yeah, and it looks like it's popping up.
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  Again, this is good. This is a part of history that
• 1:46:48
  we have conveniently forgotten and fun fact for anybody
• 1:46:50
  listening if you want to know where he Sundown town is look
• 1:46:54
  into your cities. If you want to know that you're
• 1:46:56
  living somewhere that used to be a Sundown Town.
• 1:46:58
  Look into your city census. Go back, 100 years.
• 1:47:03
  If all of a sudden, there are no black people in your town, it
• 1:47:07
  was a Sundown town. You have to go back to like I
• 1:47:10
  would say after slavery but before the Civil Rights Movement
• 1:47:14
  and look to see if there were black people who live there and
• 1:47:17
  suddenly none. Yep.
• 1:47:19
  High odds, that you were living in a Sundown town or County.
• 1:47:22
  Yeah. Yeah, this is a whole fucking
• 1:47:24
  County. Wow.
• 1:47:27
  So one town, that was absorbed, by the way.
• 1:47:30
  Lake was named Oscar Ville. Now you can still find Oscar
• 1:47:34
  bill on a map. Old Oscar.
• 1:47:38
  Bill you cannot because it's on need to fucking like I want to I
• 1:47:42
  know there's got to be a YouTube video that's like an hour-long
• 1:47:45
  of people just underwater looking at this town and it's
• 1:47:49
  going. I'm going to do tonight.
• 1:47:50
  First, I got to record a tick tock and then I'm going to do
• 1:47:53
  this. This is how I'm going to go to
• 1:47:55
  sleep tonight. So Oscar Ville is located in
• 1:48:02
  Forsyth County. I have heard a Forsyth County
• 1:48:07
  though. Yeah.
• 1:48:08
  It's a place where I guess Oprah has gone and it was like an
• 1:48:13
  interview that she did in all the people in there were like,
• 1:48:15
  yeah, we don't like black people.
• 1:48:16
  Living here are in our community and stuff like that.
• 1:48:19
  This is I forget when she did his interview, but I remember
• 1:48:22
  watching it. I do I know Forsyth County.
• 1:48:25
  It's a fo R Sy. Th so yeah, this is Oscar Ville
• 1:48:34
  was apparently reported as being an agricultural Miracle because
• 1:48:39
  the farmers had beat back boll, weevils from their infant
• 1:48:44
  station back in the day and for the Farmland, I guess surviving
• 1:48:49
  the Great Depression as well. Mmm.
• 1:48:55
  So, Oscar bills supposed to have been.
• 1:48:59
  I know I did my brain. Why?
• 1:49:01
  Because there's a news article the other day, about police
• 1:49:04
  shooting a man who called 911 asking for help down in Forsyth.
• 1:49:08
  Oh, I was like, I know I just hit my head recently, you know?
• 1:49:12
  I think, yeah. They called my mom for help and
• 1:49:14
  they got shot. I think this is the area.
• 1:49:16
  Remember that one story. I don't know if I did the story,
• 1:49:20
  but it's like a one of our this weekend True Crime.
• 1:49:24
  Well, Brought up the woman who had died at her friend's
• 1:49:28
  birthday party or some shit like that in Georgia.
• 1:49:31
  I think that's around this area too.
• 1:49:33
  Okay, just happened. That that happened but Oscar
• 1:49:38
  bill is supposed to have been an entire black community that was
• 1:49:43
  basically just first out. Yeah.
• 1:49:45
  Force out of the area but you didn't boll weevils came back.
• 1:49:49
  Didn't they know? It was those, those hooded?
• 1:49:53
  Weevils, if you don't talk About.
• 1:49:58
  Um, Newport damn development kept in touch with the court
• 1:50:01
  system, to make sure that the state could take the land from
• 1:50:07
  these residents because they'd ask every resident to give up
• 1:50:13
  their land like to leave their land without really paying and
• 1:50:17
  stuff except for five residents. That's it.
• 1:50:21
  Everybody else there like you gotta leave.
• 1:50:23
  You gotta get out of here. Now, there's this book,
• 1:50:28
  including Oscar Ville, that's titled blood at the root.
• 1:50:32
  A racial cleansing in America, where all Sir Patrick Phillips
• 1:50:38
  talks about the 1912 lynchings and the riots that followed the
• 1:50:44
  sexual assault and murder of a young white woman named sleepy.
• 1:50:49
  Make fro that she was 18 years old.
• 1:50:52
  The accused a black teen of committing the crime.
• 1:50:55
  I'm but it's it's officially an unsolved crime.
• 1:51:02
  So, as a, as a result of this around 11:00, black residents
• 1:51:09
  with Oscar Ville and for sense County out of fear of, you know,
• 1:51:14
  for the lives. So some of the ghosts there that
• 1:51:20
  may or may not haunt the lake. Of course, maybe some black
• 1:51:25
  residents that my favorite haunting is I love.
• 1:51:31
  Slaves. Haunt people.
• 1:51:32
  Oh yeah. And also lovely indigenous
• 1:51:34
  people hunt, folks. This is I like yes.
• 1:51:38
  And I want people to move on to the afterlife.
• 1:51:40
  Sure. If you gotta stay, you might as
• 1:51:42
  well make folks lives miserable. I mean yeah but also as want to
• 1:51:47
  add this is like as dangerous as fuck knows what.
• 1:51:50
  Yeah. Like, I've seen a picture of it,
• 1:51:53
  when it was a drought when there's a drought in Georgia and
• 1:51:56
  they're like, little are a little trees and Forest
• 1:51:59
  underneath the fucking water. Like they're dead trees and the
• 1:52:02
  water. So be careful if you're going
• 1:52:05
  like, if you, if you visit there then, you know, scariest videos
• 1:52:08
  ever saw? Was it what happened down in
• 1:52:10
  like Louisiana? And someone was just watching
• 1:52:12
  and like, my thing is, when, you know that the ground can do
• 1:52:15
  this. It's so like, their the cameras,
• 1:52:18
  like watching this, like swampy area and then all of a sudden,
• 1:52:21
  you just hear a snap and trees and land across from where this
• 1:52:27
  person is like, videotaping, just sing.
• 1:52:31
  Into the water in front of them. And I'm like, why are you still
• 1:52:33
  there? Hey, that is deaf.
• 1:52:37
  Yeah, apparently it was an area where there used to be a salt
• 1:52:39
  mine and that salt, mine got flooded, and it's still very
• 1:52:43
  like unstable and the ground, just sinks into the mine every
• 1:52:46
  once in a while. Some people go down there to
• 1:52:48
  watch it and I'm like, this is frightening.
• 1:52:51
  This heart is like centrally. Oh yeah.
• 1:52:53
  Almost like kind of well and he really was a coal mine.
• 1:52:57
  Yeah. But we got to steam coming up
• 1:52:58
  out of the ground. Ground is it like sinking into
• 1:53:00
  Central? You know, it's just fire.
• 1:53:02
  There is a massive sinkhole in a Mexican farm land right now that
• 1:53:05
  is currently swallowed two houses.
• 1:53:07
  Oh yeah, it was in the news the other day was look at this
• 1:53:10
  sinkholes frightened me. Yeah.
• 1:53:12
  They're can talk about things that we find scary.
• 1:53:14
  Sinkholes are kind of, you know, Riptides.
• 1:53:18
  Yeah, just I have like a real fear.
• 1:53:20
  Like it's almost like an unreasonable fear of Riptides,
• 1:53:23
  huh? I used to be afraid of quicksand
• 1:53:25
  until I realized it was slow sand in a quicksand is just
• 1:53:29
  don't don't fight it. Buddy pull you out.
• 1:53:31
  Yeah basically just stand there and wait.
• 1:53:33
  We used to be afraid of quicksand his kids.
• 1:53:35
  That's what black holes. I used to have an irrational
• 1:53:38
  fear of black holes just a little bit.
• 1:53:41
  Yeah, it's unpredictable but there is one thing that I wanted
• 1:53:44
  to mention to anybody who still listening because it's the end
• 1:53:47
  of our show. It is one.
• 1:53:50
  Thanks for listening. Like we did say, there's going
• 1:53:52
  to be patreon and one of our tears is going to be an extra
• 1:53:56
  like we're going to call its own little podcast, 30 minutes.
• 1:53:59
  What did you call it? Conspiracy Crips conspiracy
• 1:54:04
  crept. Yes, Brian named it, the
• 1:54:06
  conspiracy crap. I'm sorry.
• 1:54:07
  Just a little bit on the Fly. That's what is going to be
• 1:54:09
  called. What's is going to be a
• 1:54:10
  30-minute additional extra podcast of us, discussing that
• 1:54:15
  sort of stuff and I'm not entirely opposed to the
• 1:54:18
  discussion of conspiracies, just some of them.
• 1:54:21
  I find. Just they make my like angry.
• 1:54:25
  They make me angry, but some of them, I actually do have some
• 1:54:30
  really good ones like, one of my campers the other day came to me
• 1:54:33
  and was just like You know, the guy who landed on the moon.
• 1:54:40
  Oh, you told me about this? Yeah, and I was just like, yeah.
• 1:54:44
  And he goes his name backwards is alien.
• 1:54:48
  He's like we put an alien on the moon.
• 1:54:50
  That's like, that's really cool. That's really cute.
• 1:54:53
  He was very proud of him. Probably he discovered the, the
• 1:54:59
  conspiracy than your Armstrong is actually nailing a little kid
• 1:55:01
  sometimes, so cute. Oh goodness.
• 1:55:06
  But yeah. Well whoever patreon up and then
• 1:55:08
  we have multiple tiers one. Just for folks who just want to
• 1:55:13
  help get a little bit of. Yeah, give us a little push and
• 1:55:17
  we'll have mercury people who want that.
• 1:55:20
  Yeah, they will have gaming nights, right?
• 1:55:23
  That's one of the tiers patreon is that once a month, we'll have
• 1:55:26
  a gaming night and you get to be on stream with us and
• 1:55:29
  participate. Yeah, it'll be fun and so, we'll
• 1:55:33
  probably have to Max that It out at like, we'll have to cap.
• 1:55:36
  Yeah. But like five people baby.
• 1:55:38
  Yeah. With with garlic phone you can
• 1:55:41
  technically have a Lobby. That's like 15 plus people.
• 1:55:44
  All right. Go.
• 1:55:44
  Maybe we could do like 10 and we'll see, we'll see, we'll see,
• 1:55:47
  we'll see what happens. We'll see you, Steven,
• 1:55:48
  interested honest. Yeah, I don't have.
• 1:55:50
  You know what? I got Champagne Dreams.
• 1:55:54
  Just gonna we're gonna manage your expectations and if anybody
• 1:56:01
  wants to support us, I'll be shocked.
• 1:56:03
  Yeah, there you go. We'll say to if anybody puts
• 1:56:05
  money, I appreciate you are like 1,500 people who are listening
• 1:56:10
  on it like weekly basis. Thank you so much.
• 1:56:13
  This has been a really awesome experience doing this.
• 1:56:15
  Yes, for you all and it's totally worthwhile even though I
• 1:56:19
  have resigned myself to write a 10-page research paper every
• 1:56:22
  week for the rest of my life. Crazy or until we run out of
• 1:56:27
  people to talk about kill people.
• 1:56:29
  But Stop. I'm like, I'm not going to stop
• 1:56:34
  finding anything creepy to talk about and you're probably not
• 1:56:36
  going to run out people killing people.
• 1:56:38
  That's true. So as long as you want us, we're
• 1:56:40
  here basically. Oh goodness.
• 1:56:44
  And as always you can find Brittany on takes AA.
• 1:56:47
  Cat caught podcast. That's true always almost every
• 1:56:50
  single day of the week. Yeah, you can find me on Twitch
• 1:56:55
  at Fox you trainer. I'm not gonna change.
• 1:56:57
  The name is just going to stay foxy trainer whatever just find
• 1:56:59
  me on Twitch. I didn't stream last week.
• 1:57:02
  And because I was out of town but this weekend I will be
• 1:57:05
  playing Doki-Doki Leisure Club. All the new one came out and it
• 1:57:09
  was it's out on Wednesday. Oh nice.
• 1:57:12
  So I'll be playing that. This one's the pay one though,
• 1:57:15
  the first one was free. So we'll see what happened.
• 1:57:18
  Considering at the end of the first game, there was just
• 1:57:22
  Monaco serious game breaking stuff that had to be done to
• 1:57:25
  save you from a character in the game, you know?
• 1:57:29
  Yeah. Also, are we going to have to
• 1:57:31
  kind of put that under like a trigger warning of us stream
• 1:57:35
  because this one had some serious jerk.
• 1:57:37
  I'm pretty sure it's gonna be like the same amount of stuff.
• 1:57:39
  So, it's probably trigger warning.
• 1:57:43
  What else? You could always email us.
• 1:57:45
  Your email us if you like this, like the podcast or email us, if
• 1:57:50
  you have any stories you want us to read or research?
• 1:57:52
  Absolutely. We will look into that.
• 1:57:54
  Yeah, you can email us at podcast@biobalancehealth.com or
• 1:57:59
  just head over to and Killers, get caught.com which is our
• 1:58:01
  official website that is we do have a website and yeah you can
• 1:58:04
  just email us there too and check out our we have an art I
• 1:58:07
  guess an archive of all our episodes now, Oliver right?
• 1:58:10
  Yep. All restaurant.
• 1:58:10
  And it also shows you every single place that you can listen
• 1:58:13
  to it on the like right side of the screen, it's pretty awesome.
• 1:58:18
  I added my About Me section to the website and Brian will do
• 1:58:21
  that. He was just gone so he couldn't.
• 1:58:23
  Yeah, I'm sorry I just love to do you were on the little kid
• 1:58:28
  vacation that's it was There you go.
• 1:58:33
  But, yeah, that's all we got for this week.
• 1:58:35
  Yeah, thanks for listening. Yeah, thanks.
• 1:58:37
  Have a good night.