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CURTIS & LARRY OPENING SEGMENT 9-21-26 · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: This is a podcast from WOR.
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  Speaker 2: This is Curtis Lewa and Larry Minty in the morning
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  Speaker 2: 710 WOR.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Larry later on you got to tell us about
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  Speaker 1: your visit to the concert in Philadelphia with Ed Sheeran.
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  Speaker 1: Natalie's gonna tell us she was gonna go to that
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  Speaker 1: restaurant where they had the crash on the Jersey Shore
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  Speaker 1: and I'll tell you about the San Gennaro Festival as
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  Speaker 1: I went back to back but last night's 60 Minutes
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  Speaker 1: was really dedicated to, I guess, the response of Patrick
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  Speaker 1: Clancy to all the rumors, the innuendos, the negative social
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  Speaker 1: postings that have been filed against him as he's basically
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  Speaker 1: trying to set the record straight in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: he was doing and how he was trying to help
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  Speaker 1: his wife, Lindsay Clancy, and also the responses of his
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  Speaker 1: new wife, who he met in New York City when
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  Speaker 1: he moved here. She's an infertility specialist. They're both joggers.
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  Speaker 1: They met in Central Park. And, boy, it was quite
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  Speaker 1: a sit-down. Larry, what did you make of it?
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  Speaker 2: The thing I made of it was, and I think
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  Speaker 2: the most important thing that we learned there, was that
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  Speaker 2: he didn't think she was guilty.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that was stunning.
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  Speaker 2: Because remember, the prosecution called him, and everybody thought he
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  Speaker 2: was a weak witness. Now we know why. He said
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  Speaker 2: she would never have killed those three kids. It was
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  Speaker 2: the psychosis. She was mentally ill. That's what caused it,
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  Speaker 2: which is what the prevailing feeling was in the jury room.
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  Speaker 2: So it was a little bit stunning that this prosecution
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  Speaker 2: witness was now saying, no, there's no way she's in
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  Speaker 2: a right mind and killed her kids. We should go
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  Speaker 2: through this interview because we're for the first time we're
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  Speaker 2: getting some soundbites. So I haven't been able to preview these,
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  Speaker 2: but But take a listen and we can react as
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  Speaker 2: we hear.
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  Speaker 3: I saw headlines that said, you know, killer mom and
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  Speaker 3: baby murderer, monster, and none of them were accurate. I
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  Speaker 3: believe that it was her mental illness that caused that.
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  Speaker 2: So there's the most important sound bite. That was the
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  Speaker 2: most important one.
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  Speaker 1: You are correct because that seemed to be the sentiment
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  Speaker 1: of the jury.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We did hear from the holdout juror again, and he
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  Speaker 2: was fascinating too. Let's talk about him in a second
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  Speaker 2: and let's get through the rest of this sound.
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  Speaker 3: And I think when it comes to forgiveness, I also
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  Speaker 3: felt that if I didn't get there, I would be
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  Speaker 3: eaten up inside.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he forgave her. That's what that was from.
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  Speaker 2: That was the question that was asked. How can you
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  Speaker 2: forgive her for that? And he said he had to.
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  Speaker 2: For himself and for her and for the memory of
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  Speaker 2: the children, he had to forgive her.
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  Speaker 3: I asked her if she remembered it.
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  Speaker 1: And what did she say?
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  Speaker 3: She said it was like a dream.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 3: She remembered it much in the way you would remember
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  Speaker 3: a dream after waking up.
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  Speaker 2: So that answer is yes. She does remember it. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember that coming out of the trial. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that she knows what she did.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I thought she blanked it all out. That's what was
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  Speaker 2: reported earlier, that she blanked it all out. There was
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  Speaker 2: some real revelations out of this interview last night.
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  Speaker 3: I think I did the best I could with what
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  Speaker 3: I had at the time. And I live with the outcome.
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  Speaker 3: I live with it every day.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he was sent away. I'm not sure what he's
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  Speaker 2: talking about. I guess no matter what, if you're the dad,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to beat yourself up. What could I have done?
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  Speaker 2: He came off really good in this interview, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, much better than when he was the lead-off witness
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  Speaker 1: for the prosecution in Plymouth and talking about his wife.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was... even though he had to be
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  Speaker 1: on the witness stand, they should not have started out
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  Speaker 1: with him because I think he was not the strongest
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  Speaker 1: witness at all. Now we know why.
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  Speaker 2: He was tormented. So he never thought she killed those
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  Speaker 2: children in their right mind. And that went against what
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  Speaker 2: the prosecution was trying to get.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for those four days that I had
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  Speaker 3: with him. And I'm so grateful he hung on.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to start this again because it's
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  Speaker 2: important to tell you what he's talking about. He's talking
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  Speaker 2: about the one child that survived.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the baby Kaylin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's talking about the baby that survived and
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  Speaker 2: the fact that she hung on for four days before
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  Speaker 2: she died.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for those four days that I had
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  Speaker 3: with him. And I'm so grateful he hung on. Did
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  Speaker 3: you talk to him in those four days?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Can you tell me anything you said? I said,
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. And I got to hold him. I
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  Speaker 3: got to lay down next to him. And he died
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  Speaker 3: in my arms.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's eight-month-old Kalen that he's talking about. How unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: That was the most compelling part, I think, of the interview.
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  Speaker 1: Because he described the four days that the baby was
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  Speaker 1: holding on. And they enabled him to hold the baby,
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  Speaker 1: to go into the hospital, to lay down with the baby,
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  Speaker 1: and then to have your own child die in your arms.
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  Speaker 1: That just compounded it. And you could just feel the
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  Speaker 1: pain even now in his voice. Yeah, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Throughout the interview, you get the feeling that he blames himself.
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  Speaker 2: that he doesn't blame her, that he blames himself for
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  Speaker 2: not being there for her, for not being there for
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  Speaker 2: her children, for being away, for falling for this plot,
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  Speaker 2: which is the fact that she remembers what happened and
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  Speaker 2: the fact that she plotted it out leads me to
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  Speaker 2: believe she's still guilty of murder.
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  Speaker 3: I think every parent can agree you have different relationships
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  Speaker 3: with your kids, but they're all your kids. And I
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  Speaker 3: can't wait to tell them About their brothers and sister.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I found that a little odd.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't. I mean, what he's saying
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  Speaker 2: is when they get of a certain age, I would
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  Speaker 2: do the same thing. I think any parent would do
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  Speaker 2: the same thing when they get of a certain age.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to be able to tell them they're going
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  Speaker 2: to find out anyway.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they're going to hear about. So he wants to
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  Speaker 2: say to them, you had wonderful brothers and sisters. They
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  Speaker 2: were they were just wonderful. And so I just want
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  Speaker 2: to let you know about them and tell you about them.
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  Speaker 2: He might not have phrased that perfectly, but I understand
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  Speaker 2: the sentiment completely, and I would feel exactly the same
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  Speaker 2: way in his position.
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  Speaker 1: Well, part of the reason that he chose to do this,
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  Speaker 1: along with his new wife, Rachel, was to deal with
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  Speaker 1: what was first brought to our attention by our own
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  Speaker 1: Natalie Migliore. I was unaware of it. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you were, Larry, but the escalating campaign of conspiracy theories,
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  Speaker 1: misinformation about possibly him being involved. Remember, I was shocked.
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  Speaker 1: Natalie was telling us, oh, yeah, this is being discussed
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  Speaker 1: on a regular basis. A lot of people are doubting
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  Speaker 1: Thomas's about him being, you know, basically out of the
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  Speaker 1: circle of what transpired. Many people I went online and
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  Speaker 1: actually looked at some of these comments after Natalie had
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  Speaker 1: mentioned to us, and she was right. They were going
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  Speaker 1: to indict him as the person responsible. So I think
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  Speaker 1: part of the reason that the couple decided to do
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  Speaker 1: that was to try to address the escalating campaign that
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  Speaker 1: hasn't stopped. Remember, the next court date is September 29th.
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  Speaker 1: That's when the DA for the county there has to determine,
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  Speaker 1: are we going to go back to trial, go for
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  Speaker 1: a plea? Who knows what they're going to discuss? but
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  Speaker 1: apparently hasn't slowed down at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're going to go for a retrial. The prosecutor's
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  Speaker 2: office has kind of come out and said, there's no
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  Speaker 2: way we're going to settle unless we get exactly what
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  Speaker 2: we want or near to what we want. And we're
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  Speaker 2: so far apart right now, that's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: So I believe 99% that there is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a retrial at this point. But you're exactly right about
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Clancy. It is bizarre. But when you think about it,
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  Speaker 2: It makes some sense because everything is screwed up today.
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  Speaker 2: Everything happens on social media. People take it as legitimate news.
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  Speaker 2: So when they read something on social media, and I've
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  Speaker 2: seen this myself a million times, how I've been at things,
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  Speaker 2: I've been at stories, and you read about it online,
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  Speaker 2: and it's something completely different. It's somebody skewing exactly what
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  Speaker 2: happened today. to fit what they believe should have happened
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  Speaker 2: or what they believe was true. So please, whatever you do,
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  Speaker 2: don't take social media unless it comes from a legitimate source,
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  Speaker 2: like a news source as fact, because you're right. That
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  Speaker 2: grew around the country. People around the country thought he
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  Speaker 2: was involved. He made it happen. He forced her to
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  Speaker 2: do it because they already had their own bias when
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  Speaker 2: it came to fathers and mothers and the case.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, if I'm the defense attorney,
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  Speaker 1: if in fact it does go back to trial, I
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  Speaker 1: want him on the stand saying exactly what he said
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  Speaker 1: in the 60 minutes interview. And he won't be able
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  Speaker 1: to like maneuver away from that. I'll say, well, didn't
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  Speaker 1: you say on the 60 minutes interview?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they can play it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They can play it and say, can you, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they don't have to put them on the stand at
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  Speaker 2: this point.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let me do a pivot and shift to your guy,
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  Speaker 1: the no-doubts guy, the holdout juror. There's been a fundraising
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  Speaker 1: campaign for him. He had to flee Massachusetts. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if he took Governor DeSantis up on his off-road sanctuary. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: DeSantis said, I know you may want to leave Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome in Florida. They raised $ 350, 000. His attorney.
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  Speaker 1: Has posted a picture of him, the Haitian-American juror, smiling
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  Speaker 1: with his new baby girl. He's been under death threats, doxing, harassment.
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  Speaker 1: So he's using the money to pay for security, legal fees,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously lost work. Again, he stated, I'm a black Republican.
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  Speaker 1: I support Trump. And that jury had a leftist bent
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  Speaker 1: from day one. So they call that jury nullification. I
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  Speaker 1: went through a case myself where the jury ruled on
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  Speaker 1: my side. And you knew from day one, they already
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  Speaker 1: made their decision. They weren't even going to listen to anything.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what you call jury nullification. Remember, the jurors
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  Speaker 1: kept saying he wasn't listening. He kept drifting off. He
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  Speaker 1: would be scribbling on a pad. Well, he says, every
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  Speaker 1: time I tried to talk. They cut me off. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: would listen to what I wanted to say.
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  Speaker 2: They'd ask me a question, I'd start to answer, and
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  Speaker 2: then they'd cut me off. I would say to him,
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  Speaker 2: you're no Henry Fonda. You didn't convert the other 11, remember?
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  Speaker 2: What was the name of that great movie? 11 Angry
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  Speaker 2: Men or something like that? No, 12 Angry Men.
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  Speaker 1: And it was Henry Fonda, the lone holdout, who convinced
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  Speaker 1: the other 11.
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  Speaker 2: I guess....
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't able to do that. They wouldn't even let
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  Speaker 1: him talk.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine if Henry Fonda, every time he talked, they jumped in. Hey,
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