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Talking Racing With Jeremy Clements | Lights Out With John Roberts · Kenny Wallace Media

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  And welcome everybody to the Paint X Studio and lights out
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  with Johnny Roberts. Want to welcome in driver Jeremy
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  Clements. And Jeremy, you're coming off a
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  fantastic weekend man. We're what we're all pulling for
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  you really hard. And to see you come home with
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  that top five finish, man, that goes a long way for you and the
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  guys that work with you. When you have a season like this
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  and you can get a result like this, it makes for a better week
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  doesn't. It Oh man, it most certainly
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  does. You know, we left Daytona
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  earlier this year with a fast crash race car and leaving
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  Talladega with a Chevy that finished top five in one piece,
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  fastest lap stage points. It was a solid day for us and it
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  exactly what we needed. So now we can fine tune on that
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  Chevy to make it better for Daytona when we go back there in
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  August instead of just trying to, you know, fix it and get it
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  back to where it was. So yeah, it it makes everything
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  better. But I'm telling you.
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  So certainly a much needed top five.
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  Yep, no doubt about that. And man, I don't care where
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  you're racing or what your what what level of NASCAR you're in
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  right now. These top five finishes are so
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  hard to come about. But one thing you said Jeremy
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  stuck with me and I thought it spoke volumes.
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  You said one of the best things for you and your race team is to
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  get out of there with a race car that is in intact.
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  It is in in one piece. And I think that also speaks
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  volumes because you're racing against guys that have so much
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  more resources. So when you do that, it's got to
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  be so much more. But we'll just satisfying to do
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  that against the big dogs. Oh, it certainly is.
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  I mean, and it costs a lot to to fix these these cars these days
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  especially. So definitely would love to to
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  bring them home clean and and it makes everything go smoother.
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  Like the crew enjoys that as well.
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  They don't have to work as hard to get them fixed back up.
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  So yeah, it just makes our whole world go around better for us as
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  a race team. So now you guys are heading to
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  another fast racetrack in Texas. What are your preparations like
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  for that, Jeremy? What are you hoping?
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  For I'm really looking forward to John.
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  I mean, Texas has been a great track for us.
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  It's we've had a lot of speed there in the past.
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  It's a fun mile and 1/2 it, it doesn't look good for us for
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  practice and qualifying. So sure, I'm hoping all the the
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  same work we've done and all the data lines up, but man, that's a
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  that's a tricky track. You know, turn one and two
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  really tight, got to let off the gas all the way, get on the
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  brake a little bit and then 3 and 4 is really fast and you can
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  carry a tunnel throttle through there and it's pretty bumpy.
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  SO2 extremely different corners. If you're good in one, you're
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  genuinely going to be not as good as in the other.
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  So there's a little give and take there as well.
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  But I really feel like then R51 Alliance driveway solution Chevy
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  have a lot of speed. It's the same car that we
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  brought to Atlanta and Vegas and it had a lot of speed there.
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  So I, I can't wait. I just, I wish we could get
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  practice of qualifying in Friday, but it looks like as of
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  this moment on a Tuesday, the week of the of Friday, it's
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  going to be a washout. Yeah, that is certainly
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  unfortunate. But Jeremy, you guys work really
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  hard to get this thing to the racetrack week in and week out.
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  And I know there's a lot of people out there and, you know,
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  conventional wisdom says, hey, I'd love to drive for this huge
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  race team with all these resources.
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  But I, I think there's also for, for you and the other guys that
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  have these small family operations, when you guys are
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  able to do something like what you did last week there, there's
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  got to be another sense of satisfaction because of what you
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  had to do and, and really what went into it.
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  You guys are doing more with less resources.
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  Yeah, I would say so. You know, we've we've made the
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  move to to the a lot Haas Alliance factory team that we
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  have now. So we're certainly got a lot
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  better equipment than we've ever had and that's certainly gave us
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  more speed to to be able to compete and be upfront and and
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  man this it's O'Reilly auto parts series is extremely
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  competitive. I mean, there are there are 25
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  cars that can run top 10 every week.
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  It is extremely competitive. So they're most, most teams, it
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  seems like have have an alliance now with with a big team, a cup
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  team or whatever. So it it is extremely
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  competitive. So for us to to be still
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  fighting each and every weekend and running up front, I think
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  it's it's, it's really cool and it's definitely what I want to
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  do as a driver and a team owner. So Jeremy, 541 races over 21
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  years in the O'Reilly Series that that that's extremely
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  impressive, first of all, for anybody to last that long in it.
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  But you've seen from the driver's seat a lot of things,
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  especially in this series, change.
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  And I think like you mentioned just a moment ago, the
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  competition level is so high, but also this series has an
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  identity now of all of its own. It's no longer Cup light.
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  How have you seen this whole thing change over that many
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  years? Oh man, like you said, it's been
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  a long time. I've seen a ton of change from
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  the cars, the engines less little less power than we used
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  to have a long time ago now, but we still have a good amount of
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  power. But the cars, the car we, I
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  think right now we have the best that probably the best we've
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  ever had it as far as competition.
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  Our TV partner, our we, we I sure do miss Xfinity having
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  O'Reilly Auto parts as the title sponsor is is been great.
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  I just feel like we've got a lot going for us right now.
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  We put on amazing races. We've got a great group of
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  drivers that are hungry and are wanting to make a name for
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  themselves. And then you got, you know, old,
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  old veterans like me and Justin Allgar that have been this
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  Series A long, long time that can still get it done.
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  And, and even guys like JJ Yaley, who who's been racing
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  with us here recently come back in and out.
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  So the the series is top notch. So I just, I just hope we don't
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  mess with it. You know, we, we hear some
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  rumors here and there with some things and I'm like, Oh, no,
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  let's not do that. So I really like where the
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  series is and, and it's, I think it's just, it's we're, we've
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  only gone up since I've been in it.
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  And I, I think having its own identity is, is what it needs.
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  And it that's kind of besides, you know, we're running the old
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  or the Cup cars they used to run and, and they just, they just
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  put on great races. Yeah, and, and absolutely a week
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  in and week out, I think of, you know, everybody wants to focus
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  on the Cup Series, but man, the trucks and the O'Reilly Series,
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  they put on such great competition.
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  But Jeremy, you spoke about partners and how important that
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  is. It's unlike any other sport
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  where you do have to have those partners.
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  I think it'll probably be easy for somebody to walk into that
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  boardroom and say, hey, I drive for Joe Gibbs Racing O'Reilly
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  series and and you know what we need sponsorship for, for you
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  guys, Is it a little bit bigger of a cell to go in to talk to
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  somebody about this and say, hey, what?
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  We are a smaller organization, but you will get the bang for
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  your buck out of a sponsorship. We certainly try.
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  I mean it's, it's a tough, it can be a tough sale, but there's
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  been a lot of partners come through other partners and you
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  know, our deal is a lot smaller than a, than a big team like a
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  Joe Gibbs race, some type. So I feel like it's a handshake
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  deal. It's a little easier deal.
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  I mean, so it and we get we let them have access they probably
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  wouldn't have with the, with the other teams as well.
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  And we have a good time, man. We we're, we just we're fun.
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  We like to have fun after the race, before the race.
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  And so it makes it all go around and it, it's, it's a little
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  easier to sell, I feel like then then maybe trying to get the,
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  the big buck from for a big team to race.
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  We can definitely race a lot less than a a big team races,
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  that's for sure. So, Jeremy, when you were
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  growing up, you were in a racing family.
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  When did you get bitten by this racing bug?
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  Was it something that was in you from the start?
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  Oh heck yeah. I mean, I was driving carts in
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  my in my parents yard, tearing up the yard at 3:00 and 4:00
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  five years old. And then just in the shop in our
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  race shop with my grandfather Crawford Clements, who was a
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  crew chief in the 50s and 60s with with his brother Lewis.
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  And they won. Lewis won the championship with
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  Rex White 1960. Crawford won many races with AJ
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  Foy. Just so many amazing drivers
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  they work with. So they they put me in the shop
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  and I would just mess with things and drive or hop in the
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  cars and I. So yeah, I was a bit very early
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  and wanted to do nothing but race and then by 7 years old was
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  given a racing go Kart and taken to Buck Creek Speedway in
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  Cheston, South Carolina and started racing.
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  And from there on, man, it was just all I wanted to do and all
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  I've ever done. I think that's such a great
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  aspect about racing. I think sometimes, you know,
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  we'll hear about it was the lose in baseball and it was the James
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  family in basketball that it was just so big that there was a
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  father and son competing in a Major League sport.
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  But we see it shoot Jeremy almost every, well, not almost
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  every weekend, but we see this a lot that father and son are
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  competing, brothers are competing.
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  I just really love the family aspect of racing.
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  I do too. It's, you know, my, my sister
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  works on my team. My father Tony still goes to
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  each and every race as he still runs Clements racing in his
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  along with his brother Glenn Clements.
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  And they build phenomenal dirt, light metal engines, the best in
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  the country. So, yeah, we the Clement, the
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  Clements name has been in racing a long, long time and just hope
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  to continue and continue that way.
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  My nephew Luke Clements is racing now too.
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  He's he's 22 racing, racing crate late models on dirt, doing
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  really well, winning races each and every week.
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  So yeah, I mean, we're, we're racers.
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  And I've been blessed, John. It's all I've ever wanted to do
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  and it's all I've ever done to, to make a living.
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  So I I've definitely been blessed to to do what I want to
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  do. Yeah, I know exactly what you're
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  talking about, Sir, because there's a lot of us that people
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  had the same thing on that. Jeremy, what's a week like for
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  you? You mentioned something about
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  doing some SIM work and I think a lot of people have a
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  misunderstanding about the race car driver.
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  It's not just about racing on Saturdays.
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  You guys have a much more than a full time job.
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  Well, yeah, every day is different for me.
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  There's no set, set schedule I we had yeah, we have Sam each
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  and every week, roughly. We go to the shop, make sure
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  everything's going the right way there.
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  Yeah, stay on the phone, e-mail and calling our partners, trying
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  to find new ones, getting suits, hats, shirts ordered, getting
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  the cars designed, talking to pit crew, I mean, you name it.
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  Paying bills, it's kind of everything it takes to to do it,
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  making sure the travel's done for our pit crew and our Rd.
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  crew. So I kind of got my hand in more
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  than I would probably want to, to be honest, but it is what it
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  takes to run this team. So Jeremy, there was some shake
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  UPS recently in the upper level of NASCAR right now.
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  And I think over the past couple of years there's well, there,
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  well, there's been a lot of off track stuff that has gone on.
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  But you're one of the drivers that's out there.
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  You're one of the faces of this sport.
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  I see something a little bit different when we're yeah, we
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  don't go to every race these days, but we get to go to a lot
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  of races. I I don't think the excitement
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  over racing amongst the fans has gone anywhere.
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  I think, yeah, but maybe TV ratings are down here and there,
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  maybe attendance is down. But we see these pack
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  grandstands at Talladega and you see there are pairs of eyes on
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  this thing. I, I think the sport is in a
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  fantastic place right now, but I think you're in a better
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  position to to tell that from your perspective.
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  Where are we as a body? I feel like we're in a in a
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  really good spot. I mean, obviously there's always
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  things we can do better, but I know the love for the sport is
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  out there. I see it each and every weekend.
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  People are coming to these races, they love NASCAR racing.
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  I love to give people the opportunity to come and
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  experience it first hand, especially, especially if
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  they've never been, to give them that glimpse into our sport on
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  that level that they would never get.
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  It's it's exciting for me to do that.
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  So I love to try to do that. And so, yeah, I mean, with the
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  way the economy is currently with, with our fuel prices,
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  unfortunately, and just the cost of other things, I think that
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  that hurts it. But yeah, people can afford it.
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  They're going to come out and and watch what they love.
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  And, and Talladega look like it was packed to me as far as all
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  the motor homes and the camping there and all the people there
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  on the Boulevard. Everything looked pretty good to
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  me. So, yeah, NASCAR is a tough and
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  they they can't ever do everything just right.
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  Of course, us as competitors are always going to be, why are we
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  doing this? And then the fans are going to
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  be, why are they doing that? So they got a tough job.
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  And I don't know. I don't, I wouldn't want to ever
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  be any part of that, to be honest with you.
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  I'm a racer, never had to worry about the things like that, so I
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  just try to worry about how to go faster and put a good product
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  on for our partners. But yeah, just I think our
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  sport's in a good spot, but definitely always ways to make
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  it better. So geographically, yeah.
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  As a Spartanburg guy, how much time, if, if, if any, did you
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  spend at Greenville Pickens? The, the little bit of time when
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  I, I was in Spartanburg, we, we went down there on several
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  different occasions. What a classic old race track.
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  And I think now, Jeremy, we, we better never say never when it
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  comes to getting one of these race tracks back.
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  What What do you know about what's going on at Greenville
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  Pickens right now? Yeah, I never raced there myself
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  actually. You know, I, I grew up a dirt
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  guy and my first race was on asphalt was at Talladega in ARCA
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  car. So I never raced Greenwell
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  Pickens, but I know it's historic.
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  I've been there at a test or two before.
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  I've actually never even driven it.
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  So I know it's a great, great track and would love to see it
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  thrive and it stay in business and out there.
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  But yeah, as of right now, I know same.
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  It seems like it's a it's a tall task, but hopefully someone
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  makes it happen. And and that's that's really all
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  I know. You know, it's it's saying
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  there's so many rumors out there.
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  You see, I don't know what to believe exactly, but hopefully
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  somebody can get it that'll love it that that can afford it and
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  make it and make it happen. I know Dale Junior's said he
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  would love to bring the cars tour there.
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  So somebody will just get it. I think it would thrive.
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  Yeah, I believe so. And when it comes to reviving
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  some of those old race tracks right now, we're we're sitting
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  right here, Jeremy, we're right down the road from the Nashville
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  Fairgrounds. And I would love to see that
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  happen. But I think also what we touched
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  on it just briefly with, with the new leadership that is in
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  NASCAR right now, I think there's the opportunity for the
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  innovation. I think again, people have
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  always talked about that, you know, when on Sunday, sell on
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  Monday, that's still around there.
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  But the association with the fan and the love of the automobile,
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  I think that's just never gone away.
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  No, it certainly hasn't. You know, Chevy has these
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  meetings and they, they talk about all the cars that they're
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  they're making and selling and they're in racing because like
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  you just said, to sell cars. So yeah, you, you're right.
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  People love automobiles. And then I love I'll, I'll tell
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  you what, John, I love racing Chevy.
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  So I'm glad that we have manufacturers that want to be in
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  NASCAR and they've been there so long and done so much for the
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  sport and the teams and the competitors to make it happen.
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  So I'm very grateful as a Chevy driver what they do and I see
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  what the other manufacturers do and I I think it'd be good to
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  even have him even more in there.
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  Obviously we saw Dodge step back into the Truck Series and
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  looking into coming the Cup series, I guess is what I hear.
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  So I think that's nothing but good.
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  So Jeremy, I almost hate to go here because it's it, it's
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  almost, it's almost a stupid debate, but it rears his ugly
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  head every once in a while When a guy like Stephen A Smith says
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  that NASCAR drivers aren't athletes, it kind of reminds me
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  of people saying, well, you know, that NASCAR is not, not a
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  sport. I love when people say that.
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  So, OK, maybe it's not a sport, it's a way of life.
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  And maybe a NASCAR driver isn't an athlete, but the NASCAR
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  driver can do something that the rest of us can.
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  You need a skill set for that purpose.
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  And I'm sure as as many years as I've known you, Jeremy, I'm sure
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  it kind of rolls off your back. But the the concept of athlete
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  or not, I don't think matters. I just think that a driver can
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  do something the rest of us can't.
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  And that's the most important part of it.
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  I would certainly agree. I, I think Stephen A Smith has
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  his opinion and until he steps or sits inside of a, an actual
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  race car, he's, he's just, he's not going to have all the
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  information needed to, to make the opinion that I would see
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  the, you know, to be to drive these, these race cars each and
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  every weekend And in the hot, in that hot environment, it takes,
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  it takes a lot and there's certainly not everybody can do
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  it. And like you said, it's a
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  particular skill set. I'm not a golfer, I'm not a
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  bowler. Those guys have those skill
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  sets. And I think, I think golfers are
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  athletes. So I'm saying, yeah, it's all
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  different. But it takes particular skills
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  to do the do the job. And it's certainly being a race
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  car driver, you have to be physical it, it takes a lot to
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  drive these these cars that fast for that long, mentally,
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  physically, all of it. So in my opinion, I don't see
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  how you couldn't call a race car driver an athlete.
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  But everybody's entitled to their opinion.
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  Yeah, so it was Jimmie Johnson, the general manager at Hendrick
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  Motorsports, not the driver way back when, because every once in
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  a while, Jeremy, I guess our ages show up as long as we've
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  known each other and been around this sport.
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  But Jimmie Johnson, the general manager at Hendrick Motorsports,
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  told me, he said, you know, you've been covering the stick
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  and ball sports for ages. But remember, when you're
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  covering racing, you have to take it a different way because
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  the other guys in the stick and ball sports, they practice their
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  craft a couple hours a day for six months out of the year.
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  Most racers practice their craft 7 to 7, seven days a week, and
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  when they're not at the racetrack, they're thinking
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  about it. So I think that sets an even
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  higher bar, not just for the driver, but anybody else who
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  competes. Yeah, good point.
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  I know for myself, I'm thinking of what track am I going to, OK,
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  I'm going to Texas. How am I going to attack that
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  track when I get out there for practice?
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  Because we don't have we don't have long to figure it out.
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  You have to go out there and and usually, you know, the tie, you
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  get one set of tires or you're going to push the car to its
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  hardest that first lap or if not, you're going to waste the
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  goody off the tires to to go fast.
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  So you're thinking about how to attack each corner where you're
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  going to let off and break and use the gas and how aggressive
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  and the wheel input and what you're you're going to be
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  looking at and thinking about. So there's a lot that goes on to
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  to driving these race cars each and every week.
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  And in the NASCAR from the Cup Series, O'Reilly Series trucks
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  thinking about each and every day.
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  Yep. And so much I know has to go
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  driver do you have to have that skill set, but a lot of things
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  have to come together, don't they Jeremy?
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  Got to be a grinder, man. You got to, you got to, I don't
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  know, John, you got to figure it out somehow.
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  You know, if you're not coming from some kind of big money, you
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  You got to put yourself in different positions.
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  It, it is, is probably one of the hardest sports to to get in
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  and stay there. Really.
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  You know, it's a, it's a small club and it, and it's tough.
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  So I know I fight hard each and every day to be, to be where I'm
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  And then it keeps you keep it going somehow, some way.
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  So you just, if you love something, you're going to,
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  you're going to try to push as hard as you can to keep it going
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  and keep fighting. And, and that's what I know.
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  That's what I've been doing my whole career.
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  Well, Jeremy, you, you look good, you look young, but I know
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  you're one of the real veterans of this sport right now.
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  And most of the drivers that we do talk to you, they say I want
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  to do this until I'm not competitive anymore.
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  When you get a top five at Talladega, clearly you're
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  competitive, but have you given thought to the other side?
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  Or do you just want to ride the wave as long as you possibly
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  can? I would say right now I'm just
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  riding the wave. I certainly feel great, still
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  feel in the car like I can get it done any day and I love
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  racing. So I guess I guess when those
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  can't, you'll know it. I think as a driver, I could see
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  that happening. You'll sit in the car, you might
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  be in the middle of the race. You'll be like man, I don't
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  know. I just don't.
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  I don't know if I have what it takes anymore.
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  I feel like it might hit you like that.
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  I don't know that, but I'm just saying I feel like that's that's
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  can't do it or I'm not in my head, I know I can't do it well
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  enough to my to my level that I have.
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  Then that's when I'll hang it up.
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  Well, Jeremy, I've always had a great appreciation for what guys
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  against these huge race teams and have success.
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  Got a ton of respect for you, man.
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  Happy to call you a friend and thank you so much for joining
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  us, Jeremy. It's great to talk to you.
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  Thanks brother, I appreciate the time, it was a great chat and I
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  hope to see you at a racetrack soon.
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  We'll, we'll see. We'll come find you at
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  That'll work. All right.
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