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Best of 2024: Winter Classic wrap-up, a new coach in Hockeytown and why Jason thinks Anora is overrated. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 2: Yeah, from now and forever, as long as in Scripted goes,
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  Speaker 2: us his best James Hetfield, in case you knew the podcast, welcome.
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  Speaker 3: How good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about guests we've had so far
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  Speaker 1: here on the podcast, JD. But you came through with
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  Speaker 1: our man Sleg who Metallica and a legit hockey fan.
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  Speaker 1: Knowledge was incredible last week on the episode people Haven't Listened?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was so good and just the stories he
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  Speaker 4: told and I mean I didn't heard any of those,
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  Speaker 4: so I was so excited and I was excited to
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  Speaker 4: get him on. Just hear about the Metallica with just
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  Speaker 3: Slaves was awesome. Again, this is we're having a blast
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  Speaker 3: right now here in this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Jumping in a lot more here on the pod.
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  Speaker 1: But we want to spread the word when everyone listens
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  Speaker 1: to the podcast, suppor us we're talking hockey and.
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  Speaker 3: Talking other things.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of other things, Hope everyone had a wonderful holidays.
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  Speaker 1: Hope you all had a great Christmas and a wonderful
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  Speaker 1: New Year's. You gotta hear the role my man JD
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  Speaker 1: has been on tell Us your Itinerary since we last
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  Speaker 1: spoke Christmas in New York. A jaunt too Kubec City,
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  Speaker 1: Little Arizeldon there a little Winter Classic.
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  Speaker 4: You're business in just fitting it all in and just
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  Speaker 4: kidding air miles fly and coach like a schmuck. But
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  Speaker 4: I went to Quebec, went to go see my nieces
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  Speaker 4: and nephews.
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  Speaker 1: If you can't afford to go to Europe, went to
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  Speaker 1: a road trip. Just go to Quebec city, go to
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  Speaker 1: Old Quebec and it's stunning. Chateau Fraudnack. You feel like
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  Speaker 1: eighteenth century building is incredible.
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  Speaker 4: We we saw the My mom got tickets for my
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  Speaker 4: my niece and nephew, but it was for us too.
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  Speaker 4: We did a crystal the circ to sile At. They
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  Speaker 4: do like a circus sleet performance on the ice. Oh
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  Speaker 4: my god, in incredible, like just such a fun time.
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  Speaker 4: And and you know my my nephews, you know, barely
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  Speaker 4: over over two years old, like he's oh and and
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  Speaker 4: was like loving it. And and every time there's a
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  Speaker 4: pause in the action, you just hear him and he's
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  Speaker 4: he only speaks French and he's going Brevo and then
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  Speaker 4: everybody's losing their mind in the stands laughing. So that
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  Speaker 4: was great, It was it was it was a really
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  Speaker 4: fun time and it was good to see family. But
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  Speaker 4: then yeah, I went ended up going to the Winter
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  Speaker 4: Classic afterwards. So but would you do? I didn't even
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  Speaker 4: That's year.
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  Speaker 1: I was in Toronto for a week, saw my folks,
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  Speaker 1: which was wonderful. Did you know kitty stuffis? And that
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  Speaker 1: saw my cousins which was good. Then I flew to
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  Speaker 1: winter Peg, and then I came back home for New Year.
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  Speaker 1: So Winnipeg, I remember you told me earlier when it
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  Speaker 1: came to Deadmonton, which I found a little underwhelming.
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  Speaker 3: You said, listen, there's some great restaurants there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious your scouted report on Winnipeg because while I
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  Speaker 1: was there for our Canadian listeners, it was around minus five.
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  Speaker 1: For the Americans, it was maybe twenty five degrees, so
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  Speaker 1: for this time of year, wasn't bad for Manitoba. But
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  Speaker 1: that's a gritty town. I gotta listen. They love their jets.
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  Speaker 1: They got a great team right now.
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  Speaker 3: But Winnipeg. I spent a month one night there. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: let's be.
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  Speaker 4: Honest, Yeah it's great. They do have a good steak
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  Speaker 4: house Highs, really good. And then I mean most guys
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  Speaker 4: just sattle up at the Sharkis or the Earl's there,
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  Speaker 4: which I'm sure mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: I said to Andy Patrello, I said, well, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get dinner. And I said, Jody Shelley tells me Shark Club.
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  Speaker 3: And we went there to Sunday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, three degenerates in that place, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Shark Club's better post jets win sou.
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  Speaker 4: With the casino with the casino attached. Did you see
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  Speaker 4: that at the Shark Club? They have the casino right there.
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  Speaker 4: You can get chips to buy your beers with. Because
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  Speaker 4: what bad.
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  Speaker 1: Stable the winnipick When someone says to you, hey, the
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  Speaker 1: best thing is you can go to the arena without
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  Speaker 1: going outside. That's the selling point, like, hey, you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to venture out, just yeah you could.
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  Speaker 4: You could go through the tunnels like a mole person.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was tunneling. That's what I was doing
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  Speaker 1: to the holidays. But I want to hear more about
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  Speaker 1: the Winter Classic. It's an incredible experience. You were there, Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing better than Metallica Sinatra. Use a little
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  Speaker 1: Sonatra in your I g of course the Great song
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  Speaker 1: with Francus sing of Chicago, Mitago.
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  Speaker 3: Chicago, My god? How was it? Though? Good times?
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  Speaker 4: It was great. I mean, there's so much to unpacked
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  Speaker 4: from that, you would Luffman together. Uh. We then got
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  Speaker 4: Gary Bettman, the Great Gary. He came on and the
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  Speaker 4: fun I'll give you a quick tiboo on that. So
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  Speaker 4: we're interviewing him and he comes up and it was
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  Speaker 4: kind of rainy and windy, and you know, we didn't
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  Speaker 4: have a we didn't really have the best of setups
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  Speaker 4: were hold and umbrellas. So he pulls up and Tony
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  Speaker 4: Luffman's got to hold the umbrella for Gary Bedman and
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  Speaker 4: I've never seen Gary. Tony Luffman was shaking because he's like,
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  Speaker 4: I cannot get carry wet and I cannot like bump
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  Speaker 4: his head. So he's like has interview and he's like
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  Speaker 4: shaking like a leaf. And I'm laughing because I'm just
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  Speaker 4: watching this. So I'm on the end and Rupper he's
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  Speaker 4: in between Rubber and Lufty and I'm on the end.
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  Speaker 4: And for some reason we went headsets and there just
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  Speaker 4: wasn't a great return from secaucus, so we couldn't hear
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  Speaker 4: ourselves talking, so we had to kind of cock our
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  Speaker 4: you know, pull the headphone off. So Mike Grupp goes
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  Speaker 4: Mike rup goes to Gary, and he goes and he
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  Speaker 4: grabs without asking Gary because Gary's like, I can't really hear,
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  Speaker 4: So he grabs the headphone and pulls it off Gary's
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  Speaker 4: ear and goes, hey, Gary, just so you can hear,
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  Speaker 4: you want to kind of pull this off. And Gary
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  Speaker 4: looks at him and just goes takes it it, just
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  Speaker 4: puts it back over his ear.
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  Speaker 3: Power move. Thanks for the advice. Good. This is thirty
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  Speaker 3: years and like you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, ruppers like six seven towering human and Roberts just
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  Speaker 4: like looks at me and I'm just dying laughing because
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, do not touch the og. Gary Bettman led him.
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna be fine him, He'll red lips, let him cook. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and then we're supposed to get John Hamm, but we
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  Speaker 4: got we got iced on John ham.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I want to hear more of this John
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  Speaker 3: Hamm experience.
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  Speaker 1: Back to Luffman though again, imagine him going to broadcasting
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  Speaker 1: school previous episode. You mocked the fact I'm a Ryerson
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  Speaker 1: guy Toronto Metropolitan University. I couldn't imagine that TMU. They
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  Speaker 1: told him say, listen, in the midst of broadcast.
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  Speaker 3: You may one day have to hold an umbrella.
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  Speaker 1: For the commissioner of the biggest support in the country.
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  Speaker 1: But regardless, I'm sure Tony handle Well. I met John
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  Speaker 1: Hamm before Critics' Choice Awards.
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  Speaker 3: Nice enough guy.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was overly warm, but I dropped
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  Speaker 1: the Blues Cardinals stuff, Saint Louis. That's going to be
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  Speaker 1: endearing to him. Why did he ice you, guys? Was
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  Speaker 1: he just too busy promoting whatever? He's new He's a
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  Speaker 1: new show called Landman Billy Bob Thornton.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he does well.
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  Speaker 3: He was.
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  Speaker 4: We met him the night before at Kelly Chase had
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  Speaker 4: his he had an event at charity event. He wasn't there. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 4: he's he's kind of going through the treatment and and
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  Speaker 4: he's battling his ass off and and honestly it was
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  Speaker 4: it was amazing to see the event. John ham hosted
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  Speaker 4: it with Catherine Tappan and then they had like Gretzky Celios,
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  Speaker 4: Darren Pang was there, they had Brian Bickel, they had
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  Speaker 4: Al mckinnis was there, they had all these all the
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  Speaker 4: top blues guys. Chicago's Jeremy Ronick was there and they
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  Speaker 4: hosted this. The Stanley Cup was there. It was really
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  Speaker 4: cool and they just called it, you know, they were
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  Speaker 4: hamming it up with John Hammon, and uh, he was
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  Speaker 4: supposed to the morning kind of. We woke up in
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  Speaker 4: the morning and he was great, super nice to actually
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  Speaker 4: really nice guy. So we wake up in the morning
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  Speaker 4: and Steve Tronzano or producers texting with him, being like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna have you do like your three keys to
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  Speaker 4: the game.
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  Speaker 3: Interject he has ham cell or it's Ham's agent cell.
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  Speaker 4: Let's be honest, it was it was John Hamm two ms, okay,
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  Speaker 4: so it was him. It was actually it wasn't just
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  Speaker 4: like you know, yeah, no, no, yeah. So he's texting
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  Speaker 4: with him, and honestly, like John ham sending back like
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  Speaker 4: we said, what are your three keys for the game?
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna do something cool with you. He sends like
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  Speaker 4: a blurb like he knows his shit like hockey fit.
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  Speaker 4: You're right, no, no, he know. He was like and everything
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  Speaker 4: he said, which was hilarious, happened in the game. So
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  Speaker 4: I gotta give him credit there, give me this.
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  Speaker 3: One thing he said.
• 8:25
  Speaker 4: He said, he said, when we're playing our game, we're
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  Speaker 4: moving up the ice quickly with our enter defenseman or
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  Speaker 4: joining the rush and he said, we're also very good
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  Speaker 4: net front, getting you know, greasy goals, getting in front
• 8:35
  Speaker 4: of the goal. And two of the goals were guys
• 8:38
  Speaker 4: in front of the net and I was dying. I'm like,
• 8:39
  Speaker 4: this guy knows his ship with that old dusty hat
• 8:42
  Speaker 4: that he wears. And anyway, so what I heard was
• 8:46
  Speaker 4: that he the traffic was bad, so he's twenty minutes late,
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: and he was supposed to do TNT in us and
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  Speaker 4: he ended up. You know, obviously TNT had a he
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  Speaker 4: had a nice warm set, so you know, he took
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  Speaker 4: the warm set, and you know, good for him. He's smart.
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  Speaker 4: But the best part of it is that he walked
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  Speaker 4: by our table and gave us. He gave me this one.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, yeah, we're getting John ham They're like, no,
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  Speaker 4: we're not getting John hamp And he's just like yeah,
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  Speaker 4: He's like and I'm like and I'm like, are you
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  Speaker 4: He gave me that one. And then at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the game he walked by and I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: John Goodwin and he just he's like yeah and taps
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  Speaker 4: me on the shoulder and walks by, and I'm like
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to just I just felt smaller than I
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: felt like an absolute rookie. Honestly, I felt like twel
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  Speaker 4: feels right now where we're just we got him with
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  Speaker 4: his short mic. He's waiting to dust that thing off,
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: and he's we're not giving him an inch.
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: You're not getting an inch. Towel, shut up, towel, shut up.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: As far as the Winner Classic itself, be careful with
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  Speaker 1: your answer.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think it's played out a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: I mean one event, now there's four a you know,
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, okay, well your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: On this, okay, you want my thoughts, want you honest
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  Speaker 4: opinion on this, don't forget honest thoughts. Okay, honest thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: I originally before I never played in one, was like ough,
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  Speaker 4: like it would be so bad. Get get pulled me
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  Speaker 4: out of my routine. You know, we're creatures of habit.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of talked about it the night before. It's freezing,
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  Speaker 4: it's cold. I did Met Life last year. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this is really cool. This is you know, it was
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  Speaker 4: kind of it was very you know, Met Life is
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  Speaker 4: so big and and the fans are so far away.
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  Speaker 4: But I thought it was a really cool event. Man.
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  Speaker 4: This was this was awesome. I was like, I would
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  Speaker 4: want to play in this and strap my skates on.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Jim Cornelius and we we we talked about
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: it's it's Cornelius or it's Cornelie tal what is what?
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  Speaker 4: How to pronounce his last name again?
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: Tala's first time jumping in with the Corneilsen Corneilsen.
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Jim Cornelson. I got to get that right
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  Speaker 4: because he's an absolute legend. So fans at home, yeah,
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: we'll just edit that. We're just gonna d that or don't.
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  Speaker 4: He sings that iconic anthem, which I talked about in
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  Speaker 4: episode one about the best road city was United Center
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  Speaker 4: for me. Loved it. He was up on the dugout
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  Speaker 4: up top and they like introduced him and the place
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  Speaker 4: went bananas and it was and you know, and at
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  Speaker 4: the United Center they cheered during the anthem. It was
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  Speaker 4: one of the coolest things I've ever heard or seen
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  Speaker 4: in my career and in my life. Like I had goosebumps.
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  Speaker 4: They had the bombers fly over, had the fireworks, and
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  Speaker 4: then after he sang the anthem and he crushed it.
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  Speaker 4: Half the stadium was blues fans and there was a
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  Speaker 4: let's go Blues versus Let's go Hawks, and was and
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: everybody says, oh, you can't really hear the fans. It
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  Speaker 4: was so loud in there. And even Jim Montgomery like
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  Speaker 4: they interviewed him on the bench in the first period
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  Speaker 4: and he was like, how crazy was the chanting of
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: Let's go Blues and let's go Hawks. It was the
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  Speaker 4: coolest thing. So it was like it was very well done.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, chance the rapper was there in between the
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: first smashing pumpkins, which just two opposite sides of effections.
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  Speaker 3: So you've got a chance. The rapper got Billy Corgan amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh he was.
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  Speaker 4: He was great. He's saying the seventh thing stretch wasn't
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  Speaker 4: the best though. Billy Corgan he looked like he was
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: didn't want to dust off the old pipes there, but
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: his his it was great. He played a smash pumpkins,
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: played them on the teams, which was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So a little butterfly wings disarm, I mean thirty three
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  Speaker 1: classic pumpkins of the nineties.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I'm a it's we're we're me and my wife
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: are you know? My wife showed up to it. And
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: that's the funny thing, you know, I wanted to tell
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  Speaker 4: you this before, but you came on. You know, you
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: never come on early.
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  Speaker 3: I came up with the right time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well you come on and then you're like, hey,
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: let's start, and then you're just you clock in. You're
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: like one of those guys you get to the rink last,
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: you leave first. Not a team guy. But anyway, so
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: we're sitting there and and I'm sitting there on stage,
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: you know, freezing my tushop, and then all of a sudden,
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: on the jumbo traumat I riggly. They put our faces
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: up there and I'd scripted and they go full stadium
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  Speaker 4: and they go like a thirty second intro. And I
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: brought my wife came there because she just finished a
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: Broadway show, and she's like, hey, I'm gonna like, I'll
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: fall you around and I'll get some content for you.
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  Speaker 4: And because she's a supportive wife. Yes, but it was
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: so cold. So I see this thing back there and
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, I can't get to my phone.
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: So I'm looking around and my wife was warming up
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: in the green room and I'm like screaming. I'm like, Jillian, Gillian,
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: get out here. Film that film that we needn't get
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: we need to get proof. We need to get proof.
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  Speaker 3: And then she's like, what happened?
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: What happened?
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  Speaker 3: I was like, where the hell were you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, we're trying to get I'm trying to get something,
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: trying to get something that I'm like, the NHL just
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: like gifted us this amazing little promotion at Wrigley, like incredible.
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  Speaker 4: Come watch Unscripted with and then you know, I think
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  Speaker 4: they didn't say your name right though they saidn't mind right,
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  Speaker 4: but they're like somebody in demurs.
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  Speaker 3: That's our recap the holidays in the Winter Classic, and
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: we come back.
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  Speaker 1: We got more to discuss, including some coaching changes, little
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: World Junior's action.
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  Speaker 3: We don't need a guest today.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: We got so much to talk about as we also
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: recap the great year in hockey that was twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: You're listening to Unscripted.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Let's keep things rolling the Blackhawks, listen. It's been a
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: horrible season for this team, There's no question about it.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: They fired their coach, Luke Richardson, Conabdard sofhtmore slump, whatever
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: you want to call it. Ten goals, a minus eighteen
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: and thirty eight games this season, the fact that you
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: were able to see the Blackhawks, you were able to
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: experience all that there was at the Winner Classic. How
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: about your thoughts on the Chicago team. Are you surprised
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: it's been such a tough sledging for them?
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit. You know, I didn't have them
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: high up this year in the standings, but I was like,
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: you know what, they're at least going to be competitive,
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: and you know, they might lose some games if we
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: were going to walk away with like, hey, they're kind
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: of kicking around. But I talked to a couple of
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: the guys during the event, just pulled them aside and
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: was like, hey, how you guys doing and with the change?
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: And I asked them about Andre Swordinson and everybody had
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: rave reviews for him. The city's great, but they're just like, man,
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: they're just like, we are confident that we have the pieces,
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: but they're like, we just can't seem to put it
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: together for sixty minutes. And with this team, And what
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: I noticed with them is when the wheels come off,
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: they come off like they'll be in the game. You know,
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: they were, they're playing good. It was it was three
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: to one, but they you know the better of the
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: chances in the second period and they go and get
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: They have a breakaway on Taylor Hall ended up get
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: stealing the puff from Cam Fowler and he walks in
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: and binding to makes an unbelievable save. And then immediately
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: after they give up a goal, like a goal that
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: shouldn't go in. It's a miscoverage in front of the net,
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: and then it's like bang another goal right after, and
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: it's five to one, and it's just everything comes in bunches,
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: and you know, when you look at their numbers, like
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: their penalty kill wasn't good last game at the Winner Classic,
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: but they're like top three in the league and penalty kill,
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: and they're like top fifteen in power play. They just
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: can't seem to put it together. And I don't know
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: if it's just a lack of confidence or lack of structure,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: and you know, it's it's tough. I you look at
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: that team and you're like, you feel like they should
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: do better, but it just is just not working right now.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: And I mean, honestly, what can you do. I think
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: a guy like Jason Dickinson's probably I'm looking at him
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: as a guy that's gonna get traded. I think he's
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: played really well for this team and he's in a
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: good contract, so I can see him getting dealt. There's
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: a couple guys I think you can see getting moved
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: at the deadline and them just going for another pick,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: kind of what they did with Taves and Kane and
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: kind of try to strike gold because Connor struggled, but
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: he's trying and he's working hard, but he just needs
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: you know. I just think he's gonna have to go
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: through this and I think it's going to help his
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: career later on. But yeah, they're just they can't seem
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: to put it together. And conversely, you look at Saint
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Louis and I'm like, this is a team that should
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: make the playoffs. Watching them like they are. They are
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: as advertised and I'm telling people watch out because I
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: see them sneaking into one of the wildcard spots. I
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: don't think in the Central they can knock off those
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: top three teams. It's just too much. Those top three
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: teams Colorado, Dallas, Winnipeg are you know. I know Minnesota's there,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: but I think Minnesota will drop into the wildcard spot.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: But yeah, those three teams are Juggernauts, but I think
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Saint Louis is right there at the end of the year.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: So the Blues you're hoping in the arrow trunning up
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: from Chicago, it just seems like it's years away from
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: that area. E Bench of Caanaan Tave speaking of years
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: away the Red Wings, I thought, eventually this is gonna
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: be their year, right Iizerman has been in charge for
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a few years. We've seen his success previously with the Lightning,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: but all of a sudden he's now the Grinch. As
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: he fires Jerick the Land the day after Christmas, I'm like,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: are you kidding him?
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Like? Wow?
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: He brings in Todd McClellan. Of course, you know, well
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: former Sharks coach, he had considerable success there. You feel
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: like Stevie Wise under the gun right now, right Jay,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Like it's been a few years now, they haven't been
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. They're like, how many more years gonna go here?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So that's why that coaching ching happens. What can you
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: tell you about playing for a guy like Todd McClellan.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Well, first I'll talk Todd McComb before I get into
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: to Stevie.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Why.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Uh, But yeah, Todd is Todd's very detail oriented. I
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: was talking about on the network. I think guys aren't
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: gonna guys are really gonna know what their job is
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: and they're gonna understand what they need to do to
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: perform and to win. And the thing with Todd is
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: he lays everything out for you and he runs structured
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: practices so you know where everything should be and where
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: he should be on the ice, and then from there
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: he just tells you just go and play. You know,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: after their first loss, he had a quote where he
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: was screaming at them on the ice, just being like
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Joseff and play like, just play hockey, like relax. But
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: he gives you all the details so you can relax.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: And you know, the one thing with him that I
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: hope he implements, and it seemed the couple games I've
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: watched since he's been there, it seems like he's got
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: went away a little bit from that heavy one three
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: one that he implemented in La which I think he
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: just got married to. And that's what ended up causing
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: his demise because the Kings, initially when he was putting
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: that one three one, they just didn't have a good
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: enough team and they needed to kind of sit in
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: a trap and then when they got better, he just
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: wouldn't come off of that. And he just kind of
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: fell in love with that one three one. So I
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: just hope he doesn't go back to that because there's
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: too much talent on that team. But again we say
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: too much talent on Detroit, but like.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: There's six there instead of a wild card spot, they'd
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: have to catch six teams.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but but like what is Eiser been doing? Like
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: what's their direction? Like goaltending? Do they really have a
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: bona fide goalie? No, he had Talbot for a little bit, but.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: They really believe that Raymond Larkin's right most out of
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that that fount like the nucleus.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: But only there's enough around those guys.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing with most Cider. I'm not sure. I'm
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: not one hundred percent sold on him yet. I think
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: he needs to. I'm glad Trentyoni's there. He's the d
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: coach for Todd. I think he's gonna teach him a
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: lot of things. I think he tries to do too
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: much and needs to kind of you know, he's a
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: physical defenseman, can be good defensively. I don't like him
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: running the power play. I think they need somebody else
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: running the power play, uh, because you know, and I
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: think that's gonna happen. They got that. If you if
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: you're watching the World Juniors, that Axel, Sandy and Pelica
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: is going to be running that Detroit power play very soon.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: And then yeah, you know they brought in Tarasenko. It's
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: kind of playing better Showtime's not really doing Showtime things.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: So they just it seems to be the story with
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: them in the past five years. They just hang around
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: outside the wildcard spot and they just can't put it together.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I said, they'd have to catch Islanders
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: has Flyers, Blue Jackets, Penguins and the Otawa Centaer's so
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: good look top of clim that's gonna be a challenge.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I want to piggyback to your point previously.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: But Saint Louis so wild cards, As you said, the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: central right now goes Winnipeg, Minnesota, Colorado.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: You think Minnesota dips a little bit.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so wildcards right now are Dallas, Calgary, Vancouver, Saint Louis.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: You think the Blues would get one of those. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: think you think the Flames would go down a little bit.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I think yeah, I just think the way the Flames are,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: they I can't see them being buyers at the deadline
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: and everything that Doug Armstrong has done with Camp Found.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying like it's gonna be a highly tested
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be tight. I can't see. I mean, Colorado
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: looks unbelievable right now. You know they won five straight.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: They just you know, they just inc Mackenzie Blackwood. They're very,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: very good and very dangerous. I think they'll finished second
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: or first behind Winnipeg, and then you know, Winnipeg's Winnipeg.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I just sing Minnesota. They they just lost spurge and
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: it looked like last night with that greasy slew foot
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: by Lulue on the Nashville Predators.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: First round pick, Zachary lu Zachary l let's go World Juniors.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: We knew going in Fellows talking to smart people, smart
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: of than me, who said, listen, Canada's.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Not the favorite here at the World Juniors. It's a
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: really young team.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: So Gavin mccanna number one pick in twenty twenty six,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: awesome Shaffer is gonna push next year as well.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: But it's a young team.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Like, just be cautious and I'm like, all right, well,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: we certainly wasn't expecting a loss against Latvia. Although something
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: about these Latian goalies, Jay, this guy's will step up
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: man when you leave. Yeah, your archer's herbs and your
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: archer selous. I'm like, yeah, watch that Laptean goalies International tournament.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And then against USA, you clearly saw America's got a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: great top line, they got more offensive talent. And now
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Canada's got to place Checkia in the Thursday quarterfinal. We
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: king at score, it's gonna be a tight game. It's
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: in Ottawa. Ho ites, blah blah blah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: You could have Canada going out the quarters.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Your thoughts, I know, I think I think they'll I hope, yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I mean they lose Matt Schaeffer, which is huge to
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: broken collarbone, probably their best Defenseman. I don't know what
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: the coaching staff's doing there. I honestly scratching my head.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I mean everybody. It pisses me off because everybody's sitting
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: there and listen. You know, you look back fifteen twenty
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: years ago, or you know, even ten years ago the
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: dominance of Canada, and everybody goes, well, you know, we
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: played that hard nose brand of hockey and and we're
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: running around in Jordan Touto and Dion Fineff and I'm like, yes,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: I understand that the game is different now. It's it's
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: everything is is skill. It's a fast based game. You
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: see them trying to play physical. They you know, they're
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: one of the most penalized teams in the tournament. They
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: took seven to eight seven minors against the USA. You're
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: not gonna beat USA. It's again, if you're gonna go
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: out and play the way you played in the nineties
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: when you were hitting that those Canada teams took a
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: lot of penalties, you're gonna you know, you're playing all
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: these teams that all these young kids now they're just
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: they're so good on the power play. You look at
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: US scowl. Yeah, like they had they had they outshot them. Obviously,
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: people are gonna say they had the more dangerous challenges.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: The US say, but they had a lot of chances.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: They're not generating enough offensively, so it's like they're they've
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: been on the perimeters. So yeah, maybe being more physical
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: going to the net and like getting in front of
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: the net. But like people coming out and saying like
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: they got to run people over and scare people and
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: and this and that. I'm like, the game's called differently.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Now you're going to be in the box the whole
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: game with which they are. And what's gonna happen is
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: you're gonna give up three goals and and you can
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: see uh, Cole Eiserman when he scored that one of
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: him screaming at Easton Kawan like good penalty bought and
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: and it's just like these kids, you're just gonna give
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: fuel them. These these are all their power play merchants,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: especially us, Like I don't listen, I'm not sold on us.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I've watched them. I don't you know, although they.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Are Juggernaut necessarily, No, I mean.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: The best, the best, Their best player right now has
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: been Cole Hudson. But and then Trey Augustine had his
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: best game last game, and he could shoot the lights
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: out as a goaltender. That's why I think like him
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: and Carter George, they could power them to the to
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: the finals. Like Carter George, you know that was he
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: had two shutouts before that game. And I just think,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: you know, listen, they just gave too many chances, too
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: many power too many power players, and their penalty kill
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: has been shit. It's like seventy seven percent. So that's
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: the bigger issue. Is the bigger issue in youth hockey
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: now is hockey IQ teaching kids the fundamentals of the
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: game of where to go when you don't have the puck.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: That's the biggest issue I see in hockey because every
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: goal that scored, watch the play develop. Kids do not
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: are puck watching. They're not going the right way, they're
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: not stopping on pucks, they're not staying within their details.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: So you can yell at guys to go hit all
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: you want, but they're not even in the right position
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: to to give themselves an opportunity to hit. So like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: you got to teach that fundamentals. And I don't think
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing that's lacking in Canadian hockey. Yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: teams have caught up skill wise, you know countries in
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Sweden they might be more skilled than us, and and
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: probably always were a little bit, but we had structure,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: like we played the right way, We had some defensive
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: stal warts back in those days. I just don't see it, like,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I don't see the d side that good anymore. And
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I think there's a huge gap in that not only
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: on Team Canada, but in U sports, like the gap
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: in learning how to play defensively and your defense IQ
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: is so much lower than the offensive side. It's it's
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: very scary to watch.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So we'll get some more international stories. Can you give
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: me a little taste of what your Beijing experience was?
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Like, Oh, it's too we'll do another time. We'll give
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: me a one minute tease for a ten minute story,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: which we'll do next time.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, we'll do no, I mean the tea's is just
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: it was during like the COVID ah that Covid hubbub
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: and Bally who and and you know, the rest of
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: the world was kind of open and ish and the
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: NHL didn't send the the NHL didn't send the players,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: so you know, we kind of put together a team
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: that wasn't in the NHL at the time and which
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I'm you know, so grateful as a part of it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: And it was awesome, but like, you know, you had
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: to walk around with a mask on, you had to
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: be distanced, you know the whole you know, you're eating
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: in the you're eating in the cafeteria and there's like
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: plexiglass everywhere, and it was.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Not the rockest Olympic experience one might expect because of
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the circumstances around it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like it, but you know, it just was didn't
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: have the same feeling. And that's what a lot of
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: you know, when I talked to people that had been
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: to multiple ones and listen, I the opening ceremony just incredible.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Obviously opening ceremony wearing a double mask. I'm like, I'm like, okay,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: like this is great, and I'm just like that and
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: it's like, you know, you want to get out and
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: show the pearly whites a little bit, but we it
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: was other than wearing sixteen masks on my face. It
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: was incredible to walk down in that stadium and like
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: see everything and and and be a part of the
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: whole experience. Like the opening and closing ceremony is so great.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: But you know the funny thing about that is I
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: was playing in Russia during that time. And that's the
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: tidbit I'll lev on is well, I flew back after
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: the Olympics and the war started like between Ukraine Russia
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: like two days later, and it was like crazy because
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I'm like I've just heared in all this COVID nonsense
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: and now I'm in the middle of you know, whatever
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: you want to, you know, a war that third man
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: in Yeah, exactly. So I got the hell out of
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: there and then no, we're back here. But it's it was,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: it was the whole experience is great. It was just
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I felt like I was living in a movie during
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: that time, and I was just like, what.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Awesome.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: There's nothing there. There's no greater feeling than you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: having representing your family and your country. And and you know,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: I I tell people this and they're like, well, you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: it's about the Maype. Yeah, it's about the Maple leave
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent. You know, I'm proud to be Canadian,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: but like I'm proud to like have my family's name
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: on the back and all the sacrifices that they made
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: for me, and I get to represent them as much
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: as myself and represent all the people that helped me
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: throughout my career. And you know, the jerseys are so
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: nice and I feel like every year they get better
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: and better. Team Canada is such a good job, and uh, yeah,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: It was fun. The playing the hot like when we
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: were playing hockey and practice was great. It was just
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: everything in between was just a lot of it's a
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: lot of noise. That was just a lot of annoyances.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: All right, still the Cup here, I'm scripted our top
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: moments of twenty twenty four.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere, all right, the best, it worst of
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I came do this real quick.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Music shaboozi, I mean tipsy. It just dominated this year
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: music television shows. Hey, squid Game is back.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: People are loving that. On Netflix and movies, We're gonna
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: get Taois thoughts.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And Complete Unknow, which people have loved, the new Bob
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Dylan film, and Anora, which is one of the best
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: films of the year. We'll get Jadi's response in just
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: a second. But first, as far as hockey's concerned, I'll
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: give you some amazing Cup final. McDavid wins a conser
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: mice even though they lose, but Dar's coronation rookie year,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: McKinnon wins the heart Utah joins the NHL draft the
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: sphere here's an underrated one. McDavid and kushiof both at
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: one hundred assists. Only three players in NHL history had
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: done it previously. I'll go the obvious. Jay, I just
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: think the Cup Final was awesome. I mean it was
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: three to Oho and I went to seven games. It
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: was a one goal game. You cannot top that. I
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: was thrilled for pal Maurice specifically, You're a highlight of
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: this NHL season.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I got to be on the floor for the
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: draft and I just thought it was in the spare. Yeah,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: I thought it was. I thought it was incredible just
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: what they did and like extraordinary the setup they had,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: and I was like, every draft should be here. I
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: just thought it was a really cool spectacle, you know.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: I know that's kind of like, oh, you know, there's
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: so many other stories. I know, there's so many phenomenal stories,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: but that one for me just kind of stood up
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: said I kind of poo pooed on the sphere and
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god. You know, people are
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: showing themselves at concerts and I was like, just go
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: outside if you're looking, you know, at footage of you know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: doing LSD and watching you two.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Or there's one thing I'm gonna be honest with the sphere.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Because I had a friend of mine, he knows, you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I'm clean living, I don't do drugs, and he was
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: like he goes.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: It's cool. But because if you were high, to be
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: a lot better. I'm like, to what ex sent?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: He goes anything because if you were, if you smoked weed,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: if you did if you dropped acid, he goes.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: It's just a different experience. It's just so I have
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: to do drugs to enjoy the sphere. You have to
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: do just thing. It's a lot better.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Everything anything in life, like space, it's great's even better
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: if you're on drugs.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: So your buddies Diplo, did you see Diplo doing LSD
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: at the ball drop there with Anderson Cooper? But no,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: but this sphere, I like the Sphere, So getting this
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: back on the alisphere. But tal what's yours?
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get talent a little more.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: He's bloody.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: I was at the draft at Sphere as well, and
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: I actually that was actually my second time at Sphere.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: I also saw a fish there with one of my
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: oldest friends, right, buddy was high, very very different experience, obviously.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: I think it's the spectacle there is. It's like impossible
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: to describe. It's I won't go as far as to
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: say it's better if you're high, but but no, that
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: was high.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Now tell.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: I'm California sober, California sober.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: You know how that goes.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: But talent, I loved that.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: And I think the fact that, I mean the final
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: was an all time final, the fact that there was
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: a camera crew for the Face Off series documenting the whole.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Thing with.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the whole outdost in the locker room, like I
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: feel like media wise, that was a moment that the
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: NHL has been looking for for a long time.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: As far as the.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Marquee player in the game having this outburst on the
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: biggest stage on Prime, right, it was on Prime, I mean,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: it was. That whole thing just couldn't have worked out
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: better for the league in my opinion.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: All Right, so we talked about our best top here
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: as far as hockey is concerned, pro Cup Final, pro sphere.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: How about movie wise?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: For me, Day of the Fight, which is a little
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: scene boxing way black and white, was my favorite film
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: of the year. Number two is a Nora, which critics
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: have been lavishing praise upon ever since the premiere at
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the can Film Festival, where it won the Palm d'Or.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: For those not in the know, that's the best picture.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Sean Baker's a filmmaker. He made Red Rocket, He's a
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: terrific director. Florida Project, Mikey Madison the favorite to win
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Best Actress for many people, it's the favorite to win
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Best Picture.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: And I'm saying all of this.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Because I haven't heard one dissenting opinion until Jason Demur
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: started chirping.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Anora Jay, this is a movie which is highly unpredictable.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: It's hysterically funny, surprisingly moving, and you're saying, no, it's
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: just about a stripper in love with a Russian Oligirk's son.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: How dare you poo poo, Anora? What do you got?
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I mean? An hour in the movie gets good and
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: actually there's there before that.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: It's just the first twenty minutes are her cavorting in
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: a strip club.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: It's sex scenes. It's just gratuitous sex scenes. For we
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: could have got there in five minutes. Yes, you're sleeping
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: with an oligarc over and over again until he falls
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: in love you. You could we could, really, we could
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: have chopped that down. You know, I got things to do.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: And then an hour in then it gets fun when
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: they you know, when they what's the guys show up
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: media sign? Yeah, like the mob that then the movie
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: gets going. I'm like, Okay, good movies, so listen. I'm
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: saying it's a good movie. She's good at But I'm
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: also like, is this what we're doing? Like you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: it's blur neuis on steroids, like it's pure sex scenes.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, well, this is what happens. Sidney
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Sweeney sex scenes. Oh she's a start now, Mikey Madison
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: sex scenes. So we know the you know, there's a formula.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: There's a formula and sex cells.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sit here and be an all man like,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: oh sex listen, but don't call that an art form
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: if you're doing that every ten seconds and then you're
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: gonna go and and you're gonna go and shame porn stars.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, you're doing the same thing. You're doing
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: the exact same thing, just you know, you might not
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: be going fully through with it. But this is blue
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: NEWI Blo Neui. When you were a kid in Montreal's
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: come on ro Out eleven thirty midnight listen, easy shadows,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: And that's art. We're calling it art, you know, it's
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: it's just art. I just think I think it was
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: the movie. I liked the movie idea and you know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: very much a modern day pretty woman, correct, And I
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: like that, you know, once we get an hour in.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I thought the characters, their meetings were fantastic. I thought
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: she was great, Mikey Madison. I thought she was good
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: star making performance. I'm not being contrarian just to be
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I'm giving it its flowers. Sure, I do think I
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: finished the movie and I was like, you know what,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: an hour in fantastic. I think the kid's great. The
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: relationship between him and his parents I think was very deep,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: very dark, and yeah, but I mean other than that,
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: I'm like, twenty minutes twenty minutes less would be perfect
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: All right, two ten, two fifteen movies.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: So if it was under two hours, you would have
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: liked it a little bit more. I send the previous
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: episode a complete note. I thought Shalam was superb uncanny
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Dylan impression, especially the fact he sang the songs of
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Bob Dylan, which is an incredible achievement. But as a movie,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was as good as James Mangle's
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: previous musical Biopick walked the line, which I adored. What
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: came Phoenix Reece Witherspoon. But people are loving it. Maybe
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: it's a controlling take for me and say that. I
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: thought it was a fairly straightforward, melodramatic musical biopick.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Because Tal loved it, Tal, you're all in on a
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: complete unknown. I liked it a lot.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: Love is a very strong word, but I will say,
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: you know, I think the degree of difficulty is a
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: lot greater with bio picks. I don't like bio picks
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: very much, especially when they are you know, they're portraying
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: someone who's one of the most famous people ever, you know,
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: like I thought Maestro last year with Bradley Cooper. I
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: liked the film, but it's about someone who is an
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: icon who we could see a documentary about. You can
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: read a book about Bob Dylan and probably learn way
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: more than seeing the film. But I thought Shallome was fantastic.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: I didn't think he was so much doing a Dylan impression,
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: because we all have our bad Dylan impression that we do.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: He was like channeling, channeling this this icon about.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Jumping with your bad Dalan impression.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: Please come on, let did anyone want to offer their
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: bad Dylan impression?
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I know I was. I was about to jump in
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: and say, I like loved Whitney Houston's biopic. I thought
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: it was great with all the songs and.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: With the bodyguard or you're saying he actually know her?
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when he came out last year the documentary yeah
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: anyway continued made me think.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: I just thought the whole thing, the most fascinating thing
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: for me was seeing this artist become a superstar and
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: how that messed him up a little bit, and how
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: that messed up his relationship with Joan Baz, which I'd readen.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: I'd read about that relationship quite a bit and how
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: it was kind of traumatic for Joan Baz.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: But I really liked the film.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: I think Shala May is going to get some awards
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: out of it for sure. And it made me wonder afterwards.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: I thought No Direction Home, which is a lyric from
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: the same film, would have been a great title, and
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: I wondered, why did they call it a complete unknown?
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: And then I found out when I got home that
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: there's actually a uh there's a documentary directed by Martin
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Scorsese about Dylan called No Direction Home. So I then
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: watched that and did the full Dylan deep dive and
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: the documentary is great too.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: So quick hits here for you.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: In an interview with g Q, Jonathan Taves reveals he
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: hasn't give it up on his dream to return to
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the NHL. Will he be back potentially helping an awful
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Chicago team. It's amazing what happens sometimes, Jay, you're watching
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the NHL. You see a guy who is a multi
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup champion, a guy who's been an e leite player,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and then when it comes and it starts to hit,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the decline hits. And I think for people who didn't
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: realize that with Taves, like okay, he's up. The player
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: once was oh wait, now he can't even get a job.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Do you think Jonathan Taves will suit up again in
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: the NHL or.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Is that a dream at this point? Realistically?
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: No, I think he's still with the Blackhawks. Correct, he's
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: still signed with the Blackhawks.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Still saw the Blackhawks.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, I listen. If he can get back to any semblance,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, he could still be in this league. He's
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: very we talked about hockey IQ. He's very smart. He
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: could give you some good solid minutes. And you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I don't think you lose that side. You know, I
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: just think him he had some stuff, you know, some
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: long COVID stuff, and he was dealing with some I
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: think more on the illness side. So he went into
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: India and got this huge I think it's called how's
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: it pronounced. It's at your Veda where they do like
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: your Veda. Yeah, they're releasing all the toxins in his
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: body and everything. So and I texted him the other
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: day and I just said hey, because I went wakesurfing
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: with him randomly this past summer in Arizona and awesome
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: guy met him a couple of times, and uh yeah,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: I just kind of text him. I'm like, man, if
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: you need guy to go skate with or push you
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: around on the corner, like, I'd love to see him
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: make the comeback. I think Chicago fans would. I mean
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: imagine him helping out Connor Badard and being in there
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: like just electric factory.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, true point. He's thirty six years of age. He
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: was named Pap of the Blackhawks, are just twenty years
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: of age. He leads him to the three Stanley Cups
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: pair of Olympic gold medals. He's had an unbelievable run.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: You mentioned the fact he had that undisclosed illness of
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the time, quantic inflammatory response syndrome CRS, which was causing fatigue, inflammation,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: et cetera. August twenty twenty three, he steps wakes along
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: COVID hasn't played since, but he goes to India. He
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: gets the herbal medicines, yoga, meditation, et cetera, also some enemas,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: so hopefully.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: It'll be good to go at some point. But that
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: was the list of things.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Clear the tush out, baby.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I just love that. That's how they slipped it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: You can imagine the writer going, Okay, what was the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: list of yoga, meditation, herbal medicines, enemas?
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Should we put edemas first at the end? Put it?
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Put a comma. Put at the end of the list
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: of things you gotta.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Leave with enemas we don't know. It's like the longlisted
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: side effects. You're like, oh, what would they slip in there? Enemas?
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: But that is the real use of the word, the
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: proper use for tush push with an enema.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: It's not jailing or herds in the Philadelphia Eagles trying
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to get that fourth and one of toush pushers.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: No, just a properly administered anema.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I want to know this because I asked Scott or'neil
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: about this with the Winnipeg Jets. I said, are you
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: looking at the season in terms of three different quadrants?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Not quadrant? Three different sections? Pre Christmas? He a quick
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: little break.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Now we got six weeks and it's eleven days off
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: for the four Nations and then the stretch run.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: So I'm curious for you right now.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I don't we're not quite second half work, fifty games
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: left of the season. What is it like right now
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: mood wise with different teams?
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Well, listen, you don't want to you are you want
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: to be in a good striking distance if you're outside
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: the playoffs before four Nations, Like, you don't want to
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: go into four Nations and you're you're really chasing it
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: because it's gonna be tough to kind of if you
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: you need to get some momentum because there is gonna
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: be a reset and you don't know what's gonna happen
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: with four Nations, especially with injuries. You know, guys might
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: get hurt during that tournament because you never know what
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: happens when guys play for their countries. But I do
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: think think, you know, this is kind of a this
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: is an interesting push. It's it's different this year with
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: the four Nations because it's like you said, it's broken
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: up into sections and these breaks. Sometimes it's like it's
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: a good little deadline milestone for teams to be like, hey,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: we have x amount of games that we need to win,
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: you know, seventy five percent to put us into a
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: good spot, and we're not at that point yet, but
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: we're kind of like ten games away where teams start
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: and guys start counting the standings, being like, hey, we
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: need ninety six to ninety eight points to get us
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: into a playoff spot. We're at forty points. You know,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: we need another fifty five points. That did the math,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: I got it right there. We need like another fifty
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: five to fifty six points. So it's like that's how
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: many wins. That equates to how many wins. Then you
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: start kind of counting and then time just slowly runs out,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: So you know, I think the teams that are chasing it,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be a lot tougher this year to make
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: up ground with all the stops.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: At last point here, speaking of time running out, Will
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Ferrell made an incredible appearance in a recent kingste Dresses
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Buddy the Elf.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: As far as best celebrity fans the NHL, John Hamm
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: is up there, Chris John Dennis Leary of course a
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: huge hockey guy.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: You know, Justin Bieber's a huge Leaves family. There's lots
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: of great celebrity. Who is one of your favorites as
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: far as you think of a celebrity fan legit into
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: it all the time, Will Ferrell up there?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Who else you got?
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, Kevin James is one really big one. And
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: then I mean I my first year when I was
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs, John Cusack was sitting next to the glass,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: close friend of Chris ll yes, and when we got eliminated,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: you know, we got swept by them. The year they won,
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: and I was sitting outside on the on the curb
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: waiting for the bus to kind of take us to
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: the airport. And I was sitting in front of like
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: a vespa, and all of a sudden, I hear like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: I hear like a hey, excuse me. So I look
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: up and it's John Cusack and he's like, do you mind?
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Like I'm just gonna take his vespa. So he jumps
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: on the vespa kind of backs it out, and then
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: he just looks over at me and he gives me
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: like the John hamm and He's just like see yeah
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: and beatles off, and I'm just like, son a bitch.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Say anything.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Eight minut out. Thanks for listening to HL Unscripted. We'll
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: give you the John ham John Cusack send off.
• 43:15
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• 43:31
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