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White Sox add Anthony Kay, Blue Jays give Cody Ponce $30mil, Rockies hire new GM, Astros get Ryan Weiss · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Breaking news top of the show in the broadcast and
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  Speaker 1: writing world. Did you guys see the news about Katie
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  Speaker 1: Wu Actually we.
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  Speaker 2: Probably owned this for a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she is going back to Callie. She is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the Dodgers beat reporter. Fabian is still
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: there as well. They'll have two Cardinals have an opening
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  Speaker 1: now at the Athletic for their beat writer. But for Katie.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: The news on our end, Kratz is how she did
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: an incredible job building up Cardinal Territory, and we've transitioned
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  Speaker 1: that show with Jim Hayes and his cast of pretty
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  Speaker 1: VIP characters. So maybe we will see Katie pop up
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  Speaker 1: again in the future, you know what I'm saying within
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory network. But for now, that's why Cardinal
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  Speaker 1: Territory looks the way it does.
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  Speaker 3: I hope she doesn't get too Hollywood on us. I
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  Speaker 3: mean she was holding down Cardinals Territor. I mean got
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals fans through these tough years where the Cardinals
• 1:05
  Speaker 3: aren't winning at the pace that Cardinals fans are used
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  Speaker 3: to winning at, or the organization caring she got. She
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  Speaker 3: got all Cardinals fans through, and now she's gonna go Hollywood.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, she's a big time now.
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  Speaker 4: Sure started jelready started with that picture.
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  Speaker 2: Look at her.
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  Speaker 1: That's an Awards show picture, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know that person. I only know the
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  Speaker 2: Midwest Katie Woo. I don't know the La Katie.
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  Speaker 1: Woos Katie would going Hollywood. But that's why. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: couldn't say anything for a minute, of course, in respect
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  Speaker 1: to her announcing the plans and finalizing everything. But she'll
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  Speaker 1: be covering the Dodgers for the athletic and for us TVD,
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  Speaker 1: but for Cardinal Territory. If you haven't been paying attention
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  Speaker 1: the last what month or so, Jim Hayes, Lance Lynne,
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: Matt Holliday, Kyle Gibson. It's a good hang and they
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  Speaker 1: do a nice job of getting the IP guests involved
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Cat. Do you guys know the cat?
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  Speaker 1: Jim Hays Yeah, I do. He's a character.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's something.
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  Speaker 1: You got to spend some time with. Jim out in St.
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  Speaker 2: Louis. I love you, I love Jim.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jim's Jim's one of the best sideline slash pregame
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  Speaker 4: postgame reporters there are out there, and I had nothing
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  Speaker 4: but respect for Jim, he was he was solid.
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  Speaker 2: Jim was one of.
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  Speaker 4: Those guys and people that you meet in your career
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  Speaker 4: and you're like, I.
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  Speaker 2: Get why this guy has a job.
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  Speaker 4: And he has the job that he has because he
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  Speaker 4: gets along with everybody and he understands the fact that
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  Speaker 4: his job is to report what's happening. And that was it,
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  Speaker 4: and he got to be friends with the players, and
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  Speaker 4: he got to where he respected the players and he
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  Speaker 4: did it right.
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  Speaker 2: And I love Jim.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he did it so right that as
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  Speaker 1: he can tinus with his role, he also has cardinal
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  Speaker 1: territory and he's able to make phone calls and bring
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  Speaker 1: in all of these pretty big names to be co
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  Speaker 1: host with him on the show. So I recommend everyone
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  Speaker 1: check it out. And again, congrats to Katie. We are
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  Speaker 1: our teammate here at FT and also over at the
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  Speaker 1: Athletic for her move to the Dodgers. And now let's
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  Speaker 1: get two baseball moves about. There's a new general manager
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  Speaker 1: in Colorado. Look at the Rockies. Go yes, I like
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  Speaker 1: that impressed face from Eric Kratz. That's not one, but
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  Speaker 1: aj two, Yes, two front office executives that they've brought
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  Speaker 1: in over the past few weeks that were not hired within.
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  Speaker 1: I know it must have been painful for them, but
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  Speaker 1: they finally are seeking external candidates. And here comes Josh Burns,
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  Speaker 1: who has been a GM with the Diamondbacks and with
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  Speaker 1: the Padres. It's been a minute, but he's also coming
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  Speaker 1: over from the Los Angeles Dodgers, and he's been an
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  Speaker 1: ex vice president of baseball operations there for quite a
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  Speaker 1: while now working under Andrew Friedman in that front office.
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  Speaker 1: He knows the nl West as much as anyone in
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  Speaker 1: baseball over the last what twenty years or so, and
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  Speaker 1: now he'll work with Paul Deepodesta. I'm starting to like
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  Speaker 1: this a little bit more. With Paul, you're like he's
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  Speaker 1: been out of the game for a while. Josh is
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  Speaker 1: very much in the game.
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  Speaker 4: Did Dee Podesta and Burns do they work together anywhere along.
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  Speaker 2: The way.
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  Speaker 1: Gone through the resume here?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they did. Do they know each other?
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  Speaker 4: They have to know each other obviously. So Deep Adesta
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  Speaker 4: took over as what president of Baseball ops, right, and
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  Speaker 4: then Josh Burns is now the new GM. Listen, it's
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  Speaker 4: somebody outside the organization, somebody that knows the nl wes
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  Speaker 4: very well, and he worked in Colorado, so he's got
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  Speaker 4: some ideas and he's done a lot of things, and
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  Speaker 4: he knows the Dodgers and he's broken up or he's
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  Speaker 4: been a part of it, so he knows what it
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  Speaker 4: takes to win. So I like this move for the Rockies.
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  Speaker 4: Plus the biggest Like I just said, it's someone outside
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  Speaker 4: the organization. It's outside someone that they would normally hire.
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  Speaker 4: So good for you Rockies. Now, will the family that
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  Speaker 4: owns the Rockies come out and give them money to
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  Speaker 4: make this organization successful?
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  Speaker 2: That's gonna be the key thing.
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  Speaker 4: Will he have the pieces in the parts and the
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to do things that will help this team be
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  Speaker 4: successful in this franchise, That's the key.
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  Speaker 3: He's gonna he's gonna need some chapstick because he's gonna
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  Speaker 3: go all over the place like this, like what how
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  Speaker 3: do you huh? You guys don't have this? Okay, we're
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  Speaker 3: like the Dodgers are on like step like the seventh step,
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  Speaker 3: and the Rockies are like you guys actually give the
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  Speaker 3: analytics to the players. That's interesting, let's talk about that. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you want somebody with a good a good track record
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  Speaker 3: of being with an organization hasn't been a GM, but
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  Speaker 3: he's been in the discussions. I think the Phillies all
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  Speaker 3: almost hired him, I think in twenty twenty, whenever Donbrowski
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  Speaker 3: came twenty two. You know, so he's been coveted. I
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  Speaker 3: think it's something that for him, he really clearly wanted
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  Speaker 3: to be a GM, because if we go from the
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers in any role to the Rockies, you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I see a chance for me to be a GM
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  Speaker 3: again and maybe do some good in the Rockies organization.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's tried to pick up some other roles outside
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  Speaker 1: of what he's done with the Dodgers. I'm surprised he
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  Speaker 1: was with the Dodgers for this long. He's been with
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  Speaker 1: LA now for twelve is years before moving on to
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  Speaker 1: Colorado with this news. You started that job in twenty
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  Speaker 1: fourteen within the front office for the Dodgers, And like
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  Speaker 1: you said, Kratz, you can point to a number of
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  Speaker 1: scenarios where he's been in the mix for a role,
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  Speaker 1: like President Baseball Operations Paul Taboney got the job for
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  Speaker 1: the Nationals. Burns was in the running for that one.
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  Speaker 1: He was at one point in the running for Mets
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  Speaker 1: front office leader the Red Sox Mets was twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: where he was in consideration Red Sox in twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: and now he gets the GM role. So he's not
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  Speaker 1: leading the front office. He's the number two guy in command.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think that he will be a very
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  Speaker 1: powerful number two based on what he's done and who
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  Speaker 1: he's been around, right aj, based on the GM track record,
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  Speaker 1: so he's actually made those decisions on his own. At
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  Speaker 1: one point, he was a GM long enough ago that
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  Speaker 1: we just had GMS and we didn't have President of
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  Speaker 1: Baseball opps and GMS. That's how long it's been since
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  Speaker 1: he was back in that particular seat. So the GM
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  Speaker 1: role is a little bit different. He doesn't have the
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  Speaker 1: final say, right he goes to Deep Podesta Deep Podesta
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  Speaker 1: and then gets permission from the Montfort family to pull
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  Speaker 1: off a transaction. But he's going to be involved in
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  Speaker 1: the nitty gritty, the day to day, and he's the
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  Speaker 1: one guy in there who comes from the outside and
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  Speaker 1: happens to come from the best organization in baseball, and
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  Speaker 1: I think he'll hold a ton of weight within that order.
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  Speaker 2: Greed agreed. I agree. I think I think both of them.
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  Speaker 4: I think Burns will actually be able to go to
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  Speaker 4: Deep Adesta and the mom for a family and say, hey, we.
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  Speaker 2: Need to make this.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, if you guys hear that noise in
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  Speaker 4: the background, I know the phillies are all into this water,
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  Speaker 4: but when someone knocks it over, it makes a lot
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  Speaker 4: of noise. And then there's glass all over the floor.
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  Speaker 4: So if you hear someone cleaning ladies that are doing
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  Speaker 4: a great job of cleaning up, I may or may
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  Speaker 4: not have spilled on the ground on a tile floor.
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  Speaker 2: Oop. Oops.
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  Speaker 1: It's water though, true.
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  Speaker 4: But if you hear they're like under my feet right now,
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  Speaker 4: getting all.
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  Speaker 2: The glass yards out off. So if you see me,
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  Speaker 2: kind off the move. But I love the Rockies move.
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  Speaker 4: I love Deep Adesta coming back to baseball from the Browns,
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  Speaker 4: and I love Josh Burns getting away from La again.
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  Speaker 4: He's in the n Os, so he knows it coming
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  Speaker 1: because this is pretty tied into what's happening here. You
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  Speaker 1: now taking over as GM of the Rockies. And you
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  Speaker 1: compare this with Deepodesta, how do you clear all of
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: the shards of class You mentioned some issues already. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we should get a modern system of how we pass
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: along information to our staff and to our players. But
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: anything from a personnel perspective for Colorado, I'll do the
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: low hanging fruit. The Rockies make money, they do well
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: on attendance numbers, even when they're terrible. I'm not saying
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: they should go out and get the next Chris Bryant
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: in terms of money signings that did not work out
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  Speaker 1: well for them, and they're not in a position to
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: compete right now. But do not undervalue getting those one
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: year contracts on players if you can convince them to
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  Speaker 1: come and even overpay them a bit, and you bank
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: on guys that you think are going to have a
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: good first half and then you try to trade them.
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  Speaker 1: I know it is not easy to convince certain players
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: to come over to Colorado, but money talks, and there
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: are a lot of good parts of being out there
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: in terms of the lifestyle. So if a player can thrive,
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  Speaker 1: more likely a position player for the first half of
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: the season, then they're able to flip that player. The
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: pitching can certainly be an issue. You really have to
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: convince someone via cash to bring them over. And right
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: now it's like, hey, I know this place sucks to
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: pitch at and we're terrible, but want to sign with us.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's honestly not the first thing I do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta have some guys. I gotta put some guys
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: on a roster. I'm saying, Okay, we're gonna get a
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: couple of one year deals. Nothing crazy. I don't even
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: want to I don't even want to use up my
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: cachet with the ownership.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to come in the first year. I
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: gotta buy. I gotta buy.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna say, we obviously got to look under
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: the hood. You gotta see what's going on. You got
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: you gotta trim the fat of you know, the coaches
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: that are just hanging on because they have a job.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: And Dick Montfort doesn't fire people, but to me, it
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: starts in the minor leagues. Something that I know he's
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: seen with the Dodgers since he's been there. In twenty fourteen,
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: when they started clearing out clubhouses for healthy food for
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: Dodger minor leaguers, like there's so much low hanging fruit,
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  Speaker 3: not talking about analytics, not talking about how somebody coaches
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  Speaker 3: somebody on the field, or free agents that you go
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  Speaker 3: and get little stuff, how you treat your minor leaguers
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  Speaker 3: because the organizations, like you said, gonna have a tough
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: time finding pitchers. So after I do that and I
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: set this like new groundwork foundation, I'm gonna say, what
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: are we going to do? What is going to make
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  Speaker 3: the Rockies the best? How are we going to pitch?
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: And he's already been a GM. It's okay if you go,
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: you know what. I think, this is how we're going
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  Speaker 3: to pitch. All of our pitchers have to meet these
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  Speaker 3: requirements before they make it up to the big leagues.
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  Speaker 3: Because they're in the big leagues. The field is not
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: conducent to this. We have to make the adjustments when
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: we go on the road, all that stuff. That's where
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  Speaker 3: I start free agents whatever. I'm not looking to put
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: a bad team on the field, but I don't think
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  Speaker 3: the Rockies are at a place where it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we got to, you know, flip them for a twelfth
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  Speaker 3: prospect at the trade deadline to me, you get bigger dividends,
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  Speaker 3: spending time building that minor league system like the Dodgers have.
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  Speaker 1: M HM fair and talking to your owner into basically
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: buying up anything that teams like the Dodgers have from
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  Speaker 1: a resources standpoint, every team can spend on that. Those
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: expenditures are not small, but they're nothing like signing any
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: kind of free agents. They are small in the grand
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: scheme of things. And I know that the Rockies have
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: cheaped out on some things that in the past. I
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  Speaker 1: know from some people who have been close there, so
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  Speaker 1: maybe they're able to talk them into a change.
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  Speaker 2: Show me the money.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Some people are like, who, who's this guy? The Blue
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: Jays end up signing yet another pitcher, so Dylan Cees
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  Speaker 1: is on board. I would say more of a proven
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: commodity and a very durable commodity that they signed for
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: big money right high one hundreds mili in net present value.
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  Speaker 1: This is Cody Ponce on a three year contract thirty
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: million dollars. Went overseas, pitched in Japan, didn't really have
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  Speaker 1: success there, ends up moving over to the KBO, the
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Korean League, the top league in Korea for baseball, and
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: he thrives in fact, this past season he was the MVP,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: and it's I don't want to tell a tale aj
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  Speaker 1: of someone going down a level, down a level, right
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  Speaker 1: because like the KBO is not as good as NPB
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  Speaker 1: in Japan, and PB in Japan not as good as MLB,
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  Speaker 1: because there is a story here of him continuing to tweak.
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  Speaker 1: So he's getting three years thirty million, and for a
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  Speaker 1: reason many teams believe in the way that the stuff
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: is elevated. He's six', five two fifty. Five he spent
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit of time in The pirates. Organization that's
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: actually usually appealing to, teams especially if you're going like
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: five years. Back they're, like, okay a commodity that probably
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: wasn't tapped into correctly back. Then back then he was
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  Speaker 1: like sitting ninety. Three now he's mid to upper. Nineties
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  Speaker 1: he added a kick change up that's become his primary.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Pitch there's a lot here that changed v low stuff
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  Speaker 1: mechanical tweaks your thoughts on someone like this as an
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: expensive lottery, ticket but one that could end up being
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: a big part of The Blue jay's.
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  Speaker 4: ROTATION i, mean good For Cody ponts first of. All
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  Speaker 4: but my question is if you're The Blue, jays you're
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: coming off winning The World, series and who are your
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: free agents on this pitching staff that you have for
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: The Blue, Jays Chris, Bassett Max scherzer now and Then.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Brios what are you going to get out Of? Brios
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  Speaker 4: Does Cody ponce fill the need that you have for
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  Speaker 4: The Blue jays in to that?
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  Speaker 2: IS i don't.
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  Speaker 4: Know but if you, know having proven commodities and a
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  Speaker 4: guy Like Max chers Or Chris, bassett you can get
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  Speaker 4: them from one year at a time instead Of Cody
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  Speaker 4: ponce for three. Years which one do you? CHOOSE i don't,
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  Speaker 4: know because AGAIN i don't know enough About Cody. PONCE i, mean,
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  Speaker 4: great he had a great year In. Korea But i've
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: seen guys From korea come over and they've been. Okay
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Eric fetti went over, There he's okay when he came over, here,
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  Speaker 4: Right so good For Cody. Ponce but is this the
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  Speaker 4: move that's going to get The Blue jays The World?
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  Speaker 4: SERIES i don't. Know, maybe maybe, not we'll.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: See, yeah they're accumulating arms, crats so they bring everything back,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: right and they face A dodgers team that was loaded
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: with talented arms and you could bring them, in you,
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  Speaker 1: know even if they had just pitched Like yamamoto Or
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: glass now popping up, right like when you get if
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you're able to get to a longer playoff, series having
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: starters definitely, matters but also having as many as, possible
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: being that injuries occur and you can always use those
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  Speaker 1: starters in a variety of. Ways, Right, so do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like this is a good way for them to
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  Speaker 1: acquire pitching? Talent and if he does, HIT i mean
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: ten million bucks per year for a, guy let's, say
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: who turns out to be a number three, starter that
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: would be pretty damn.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Good and his, stuff like because of the day and
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: age of our analytics and all that.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Stuff this is where it really.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Helps this is where, guys you, KNOW i think he
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: was seventeen and one when he was over.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: There he won The Triple crown for, pitchers he won THE.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Mvp he was.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Dominant before you'd look at it and go it Was,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: korea you, know maybe not as good as. Talent now
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: you look at his. Stuff the kick. Change everybody thought he.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Was everybody thought he was a. Pronator he can't, pronate
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: so he can't turn the ball over this way for
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: a change. Up now he's throwing this kick change the
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: VIDEO i, watched it looks like a. Splitter it looks
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: like a splitter that dives kind of down and into.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Lefties and when you increase your, velocity when you say
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: you sit in ninety one to ninety, three it's not
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: gonna it's not gonna play right, now especially when you're
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: when your ball's moving left to. Right but he upticked his.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Velocity it looks like he's more balanced over the rubber
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and through his pitching. Mechanics to, me it's a it's
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: a no. Brainer you need as A dodger showed six
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: or seven starters to make it through the. Year now
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: they just paid For Dylan, ceese who makes all his.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Starts they're Paying, gosman who makes all his. Starts you
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: don't know what you're gonna get From Hosey barrios and
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: You savage is. Young he's not gonna give, you even
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: if he's, healthy he's not gonna give you all the
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: innings you. Need so if you, can if you can
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: accumulate six quality, starters to, ME i think this is
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: a no. Brainer it's a great it's a great contract for.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Him But it's also great for where The Blue jays
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: are in their. Rotation they don't need him to like
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: step up and be the number one.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Guy. Yeah.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Aj the thing THAT I i feel like organizations have
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: struggled with over the past quarter, century which is why
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you don't have back to back champs since The, dodgers
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and you don't often have someone pop back up in
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: A World, series is the way that pitching bounces back
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the year after they go essentially the. Distance and that's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: what The Blue jays had to do with their pitching. Staff,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: so Like kratz, Mentioned, gossbinson he's not young. Anymore in
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the bigs your savages on the other end of, that
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: where you haven't built up a significant innings, workload and
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: they used him a ton in the. Playoffs of, Course
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: brio's coming off, Injury bieber's coming off injury and then
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: returned obviously during the trade deadline stretch run for The
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Blue jays and then the, playoffs but again coming off you,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: know a missed year plus ceases your. Durability. Guy so
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Here's Cody ponce added to the. Mix nobody's looking and being, like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: oh why nobody does this? Anymore why would they do
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a move like. This there's no room For Cody. Ponts
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: there's always room for. Starters you need way more than, five,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: six seven starters to get through an entire. Season so
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: they like this. Enough AND i will point this, out
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: AJ t your point Of scherzer And bascet being free
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: agents after this, Year like this coming, Season Kevin gossman
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: is a free, Agent Shane bieber will be a free,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: agent And Jose burrias will be a free. Agent So
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: ponce could be even more valuable for twenty twenty seven
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty, eight depending on who they're able to
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: bring back and. Not, plus The Blue jays are freaking.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Rich they made a ton of money during the playoffs
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and they're flaunting their cash right.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Now that's.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: FINE i, said good for, Them good For Cardy, ponce
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: good for The Blue.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Jays it's depth.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Feast you, know three, years thirty million not gonna kill
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: you over the long.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Haul SO i like this. MOVE i.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Didn't i'm not criticizing this. Move i'm just, saying you,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: know what is he gonna? BE i don't know what
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: he's gonna, be because, sometimes, listen no guy has gone
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: there hasn't been a guy who's gone over To japan
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: or gone over To korea yet that's come back and been,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Like i'm gonna he's gonna win A Sai young or
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: he wins A. Saiu reason the top three or four
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Cy young vote every, time, Right so.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: LISTEN i love this move For.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: CODY i love this move for The Blue jays's depth.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Feast but if you're A jays, fan don't go out
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: there thinking, like, oh we Got Cody. Ponds here we,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Go we're Gonna we're going back like they're gonna they're
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: still gonna need some other.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Pieces and we're seeing the questions flow in Here kratz
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: asking about Am i Or Zach gallen or planning on
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: stretching Out. VARLAND i think. THAT i think there's a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: chance That jays could still go after another big name.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: STARTER i don't think it's as likely as them going
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: after two pretty solid relievers that cost. CASH i think
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: that's going to be the next expenditure For.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Toronto what about, You, YEAH i mean The varlin. Thing
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: The twins tried. IT i think The twins tried it
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: twice and it just. Wasn't it wasn't the Dominant varlin
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: that you see out of the, bullpen so you, go, eh.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Okay but to, ME i think they're JUST i was
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: trying to do the math what you guys were. TALKING
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: i think there are a few inning. SHORT i think
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: they're a few inning short because of the amount of
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: starts that you think you're gonna get from Trey Ya,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: savage the amount of starts you think you're gonna get From.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Bieber Maybe i'm. Wrong maybe You savage gives you thirty two.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Starts Maybe bieber gives you thirty two. Starts barrios gives
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: you thirty. Two gozman and and Uh dylan sees they
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: all give you thirty two, starts and then and then you're,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: fine like you don't you don't need. Anybody that's not the.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Reality that's not the reality of how this game. Works
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: that's not the reality of how you're successful into the.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Playoffs AND i think If Cody ponts this year becomes
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: even let's say they get one more they get one more,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: starter and he becomes that long guy in the penn
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: look at What Nick, Martinez AND i Know Nick, martinez
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: he went to he went To, japan and he came.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Back he's been the, ultimate all, ultimate Like Swiss Army.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Knights he, swings he, starts he comes in a. Bullpen
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Cody ponts is to is to a t the exact
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: type of, picture except he throws a little bit harder
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: And nick probably has a little bit better. Control but
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: that's that's yet to be. Seen so to, ME i
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: love this. MOVE i love what they've, done AND i
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: think they'll still be in the market for a, starter
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: maybe not necessarily unless it's a high end closer like
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: a like A Robert.
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  Speaker 1: better on. Paper we got to see what happens WITH.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: BO i got, That but right now they look like
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a better, team Right and they did a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things really well in the playoffs Without, Bo so of
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  Speaker 1: COURSE i think there's a good. Chance, no you don't think.
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  Speaker 1: SOCRATS i mean they got through a good chunk of
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs WITHOUT. BO i MEAN i think even if both,
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  Speaker 1: returned this is still a really strong ball. CLUB i
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  Speaker 1: do think that they're the most likely team to retain.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: HIM i think they did did do nice things Without
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: bo getting through The American. LEAGUE i think they don't
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: have bow in The World. SERIES i think IT'S i,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Mean i'm Not i'm not going down on a. LIMB
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: i don't think it's a it's the same type Of World.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Series he was a big he was a big, piece
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: and if you had to get through The National league
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: teams are gonna they're just gonna be. Better, so, yes
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: they got through without, him but they need. That they
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: can't just, say, oh it's, okay we Have Anthony Santon.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Dare we're not going to replace bow at. All we're
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: just gonna Go Ernie, clement you're sliding at second And Andre.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Simenez it's. Short i'm not saying they need to get.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Him i'm saying they need to get a bat to
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: replace what he did From april to the beginning Of
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: september for the entire, season OR i think they could
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: end up a little offensively, short.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Right that's. FAIR i mean two hundred hits it means,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: something and there's some pop there that came back for
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: him eventually. Too, okay let's get to some other starters,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: here some more names that you might not know or
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you might be, like, oh that guy's Back Anthony. Kay
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: do you remember the name former first round pick by
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: The New York mets in twenty, eighteen two years twelve
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: million bucks another one and a half million that he
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: can make in incentives with The Chicago White. SOX aj
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it's Another Eric fetti. Special you mentioned it, earlier but
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: they did this With fetti for. Them they look At
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: fetti as a big. SUCCESS i think why because he
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: pitched well for what first, half and then they traded
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: him away and got prospects for, him and that's what
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: The White sox needed to. Do So fetti faded in
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: his time With Saint. Louis FOR. K this is the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: guy who pitched in the big leagues about eighty five
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: innings forty four appearances For, Toronto chicago and The mets
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty. Three then goes over
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: To japan and was good the first year and then
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: was dominant past year in THE, npb second BEST dra
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: among starters at one seven four one hundred and fifty five.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Innings he LET mpb and starting. Pitching strikeout percentage IS
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: k twenty one point nine, Percent so his walks came
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: down from what he used to be really good, at
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: limiting quality of, contact all of the things that make
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: front offices. Deel it's just that he had a pretty
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: long stretch in the majors and didn't pitch, well and
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: yeah there's been stuff, tweaks but maybe not to the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: extent that team saw With Cody. Putts that's why you
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: get the price of two, years twelve million. Bucks what
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: do you?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Think? Sure?
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Cool LIKE i don't, know BECAUSE i don't. Know some
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: guys come over again From japan And korean and do,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: great and some guys come over and.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: They're okay and they don't make.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: It you just never know what's going to happen with
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: these guys because there's a reason why they were In,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: japan and there's a reason why they were In, kbo
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: whether it was a, control whether they didn't have a second,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: pitch whether it was this or. That and UNTIL i
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: see these guys pitch and, Listen Eric fetty was great
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: for The White sox for half they traded. Him what
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: they get for him, Mostcott who did they get.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Back For Eric?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: FETTY i got to remember which prospects were in the
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: return package.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Exactly they Got they got Mcgil vargas is what they
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: ended up. Getting because remember it was the three team
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: who ha ha he how thing they did that one
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: year where The dodgers Got copek and they Got Tommy
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: edmond and The cardinals got fetti and.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: All.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: That so The dodgers, won and they sent him what
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: they sent, Him Miguel vargas and what two a ball.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Kids AND i don't know that even if THEY i
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: don't know what they did this. Year so, YEAH i
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: mean it can work. Out but is this a guy
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: that's gonna put The White sox not to lose one hundred?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: GAMES i don't. Know, maybe but good for.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Him, again he can't got to come back and he
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: got two, years twelve million and.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: He got a chance to make.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: More so, cool welcome, back AND i hope you do,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: great especially for The White sox Because i'm A White sox.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Fan, well and the bar has been set very low
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: for the team in terms of what they do in
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the off. Season so they did, Spend.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Hey, Chris chris get said they were gonna spend their spending.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: A little bit of.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: Money you.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: KNOW i Like Anthony KAM i met.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: HIM i met him rape before he got caught up
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: to the big, leagues back WHEN i was still.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Playing good young.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Guy probably a little naive in the sense of, like,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: hey you know, WHAT i didn't spend that much time
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: in the minor, leagues just gonna go out and throw my.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Slider he was out there slinging the, rock slaying the.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Rock AND i think it's something that guys go To
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: japan and they learn how to. Pitch that doesn't mean
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: like they didn't know how to pitch, before but some
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: guys throw and they threw better than everybody, else and
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: then they make it to the big leagues and it's, like,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Whoa NOW i got to learn how to. PITCH i
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: gotta learn how to take care of my. BODY i
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: gotta learn how to make twenty four starts like he
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: did last. YEAR i think he made a few starts
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: up in the big leagues and then he got up
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: moved to the. Bullpen it's not gonna work out like
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: you got a consistent twenty four star arts throughout an
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: entire season Over. Japan now you come back and you've
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: re established yourself as like that. ROUTINE aj will tell
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: you the guys that don't have routines don't stick in
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: the big.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Leagues, true BUT i, mean twenty four starts is out
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: what they're counting. On twenty four whole.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Starts, no just a consistency that he only. Started he
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: didn't go and pitch out of the bullpen because his
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: first two starts didn't go well and then oh we
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: need you Back White sox get if they get twenty
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: four starts out of, them you can't tell me that's
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: not a successful.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Season twenty four starts at A i would say even
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: for a six million a year, pitcher twenty four starts
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: in the four of z array is a bargain in the.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Sport at six million bucks per, YEAR i, mean as
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: a back end, STARTER i think most teams would take.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: That, okay if you GOT i mean sure, AGAIN i
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: hope it goes. GREAT i hope this is one of
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: the best signings of all.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Time, yeah, yeah.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Everybody i'm just providing as much AS i can. Here
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: none of us are going to act like we're WATCHING
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: npb OR kbo. Games so we get, highlights we get scouting,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: reports we read, articles and that's how we can break
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: guys like this down versus the major leaguers that we
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: get to watch more. Consistently so while we're on the,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: topic we've got a little theme here in money Moves Ryan.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Weiss what does the name mean to? You probably not,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: much but The astros sign him up major league. Deal
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: they have a club option on that one for twenty twenty.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Seven for twenty twenty, six it's one year about two
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and a half million. Bucks he pitched in THE kbo
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the past two. Seasons his story is more unique To.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: KRATZ i mean this says the true underdog story written
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: all over. It so he never made it to the,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: majors so this will be his first time in the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: majors coming up this. Season he made it up To
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: TRIPLE a both with The royals and The Arizona. Diamondbacks
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: organizations wasn't working for him twenty twenty Three Indie, ball
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Then Chineese Professional Baseball league before finally signing over In.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Korea so this guy has clearly made the rounds and
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: he's figured it out in terms of being successful in THE,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: kbo and The astros are going to give it a.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Shot we'll get into The astro side of the equation
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: here and how they are going to think about shopping for.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Starters but this is the guy who has a chance
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to crack the rotation this coming.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Season ALL i can go by is his.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: NUMBERS i love the story, though the fact that he
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: went to The Chinese Professional, league that is he was.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Grinding he was. Grinding they like just he had he
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: had a chip in the. Chair he kept he kept,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: throwing he stayed. Healthy he made thirty two starts this.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: YEAR i was looking at his, numbers two hundred and
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: eighteen strikeouts in one hundred and seventy, innings like that's.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Good, again we're not only going by. Numbers we can
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: go by the.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Analytics they have track, man they have all the similar
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: stuff that they have in the big. Leagues in these,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: leagues and so they teams can, see, hey you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: what this is what we really. Like, yes we get.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: It his walk rate was probably a little bit higher
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: than we, want but his durability gives us another starting.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Option and good for, him got himself a big league.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Contract some of these, guys you, know they have to
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: figure OUT i they're going to sign to go back
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: To korea Or. Japan so that's why these, contracts these
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: these signings are. Happening and there's there's guys that have
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: success and come over just because they get a consistent.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Opportunity LIKE i said About anthony k not everybody is
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: a superstar and gets consistent playing time or. Starts so
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: good for these guys cashing it in when they go over.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: There, yeah and, actually to your, point there were multiple
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: reports That kay turned down bigger money From, japan and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: sometimes that's like agents flaunting. THAT i actually believe it
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: because you can't afford a picture like that IN. Npv
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: if he's top, three they will try and keep those.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Guys but he wanted to come back to The. States,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: okay last piece of the puzzle here On Ryan weiss
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: for the starting rotation as a potential option for The.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Astros but do you have on The astros this? Offseason
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: aj Fran bravaldez is going to sign. ELSEWHERE i think
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that's going to be a divorce that we're just waiting
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: to get. Official he'll sign with another ball club And
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Chandler rome part of Crush shitty, territory And The athletic
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: reported that The astros are not going to play for big.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Starters as we, Know Jim crane generally treats that luxury
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: tax number like a salary, cap like a little below,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: it a little above, it but like he really sticks
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: to that, number and that numbers two hundred and forty four.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Million this season or this coming. Season The astros have
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: clipped about SIXTEEN mili from their, payroll with guys Like
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Mauricio dubon moving over to The braves via trade and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: So chandler says they're about twenty five million under the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: first luxury tax threshold according to outside. Approximations they've gotten
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: some interest on some of their, outfielders Like Jesus, sanchez
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: who was brutal for them in the second half of
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the year once he got traded over, there And Jake,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: myers who actually had his offensive, season is a pretty
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: solid defender in center. Field but what do you think
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: The astros need to do to get back in the?
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Playoffs sign a, Picture sign a starting. Pitcher you need hate,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: healthy you need to bray you. Healthy and they need a.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Bat wherever that bat. IS i think they need a.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Bat they Need alvarez obviously to play the whole, year
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: and they Got. Korea they have. Pain you have another good.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Year Al tuove is going to do what he. Does
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: diaz behind the plate is going to be, okay but
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: they need to find somebody in the outfield that can do.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Something and if they have to trade J, myers they
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: might need to somebodies to do. Something and then they
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: need a starting pitcher Because Hunter brown is. Great some
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: of these other guys are, great but they need a
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: bona fide starter if it's not From, bravaldez and where
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: do they find.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: That that's going to be the.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: QUESTION i think the bullpen will be all. RIGHT i
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: think the offense will be, okay but they need a
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: bat in the outfield that can really do some damage
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: because they their outfield for years has been kind of
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: a struggle struggle. City so what will they find they
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: can take over in the, outfield and then a starting
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: pitcher to pair With Hunter? Brown is the rest are?
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Okay whoever those people are at the back end will be.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Fine The asters can kind of figure that. Out they've
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: been good at, it but they need someone. Else it's
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: a stud at the front of the end for an
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: end of that rotation appear With Hunter. Brown, YES i
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: think that. STARTING i think that starter is key for.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Them BUT i also felt like their bullpen was a
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: little short when When montero never really came, back they
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: were you, know that was like the three headed. Monster
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: it Was presley a bray. You montero he fell off
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: a Bray you is still the stud and he's still
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: getting his sixty five to seventy. Appearances hater getting hurt
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: at the end of the year killed.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Them it killed.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Them they finished three games. Out not saying it was
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: because a Bray you or somebody else's blowing. GAMES i
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: just think if you can't count on you can't have three.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: GUYS i think it was like a Bray, You oakert
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: And hater that were leaned. On When hater goes, Down
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: now all of a, sudden you're leaning on Caleeb or
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: a little bit more who ended up getting hurt at
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: the end of the, Year you're leaning On Brian. King
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: like these are names that are good, pieces but when
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: thrust into a larger, role you need a little bit more.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Depth similar to when they went and Got hater and
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: they still Had. PRESLEY i get it they got rid
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Of presley, then but it's okay to have really really
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: good options in the same role because you figure it,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: out you get the best.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Players and that's what The astros have always.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Done they've gotten the best players and they put that
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: team out in the field and they've consistently. Won and
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: you're talking about a team that doesn't want to just
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: make the. Playoffs they want to win The world.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Series, yeah you're, right it was getting dicey. There, yeah
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: you had hater then he got hurt of bray You,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: King Steven, Okert bennettuza emerged a little bit for, them
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: but they could do some work there in the. Bullpen
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and from a position player, perspective Is Cam smith going
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: to take a? Step he was really he was not,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: good then found it for what maybe a month or,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: two and then wasn't even getting much playing time down the.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Stretch but a young kid WHO i don't, KNOW i
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people expected to even be
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: in the big leagues as fast as he. Was maybe
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: was rushed a little bit as he cracked the team
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and had a good spring. Training but we'll see if
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: he can emerge as an outfield piece for. THEM a
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: lot of the other positions do seem to be. Set, Peina, Albarez, Altuve,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Correa Issak parades who some people have thrown rumors of
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: trades for, him AND i do not think they're going
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: to trade. Him Dana brown has thrown that. Down they love. Him,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: hey we've got a little shake up going on with
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: That angels rotation they're working. On of, course The Grayson
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: rodriguez addition that they made and now adding that With Alec.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Manoa so they signed him to about a year and
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: two million bucks. Guaranteed he's twenty seven years. Old remember
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: he had it all a few years, ago injuries and,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: effectiveness the whole. Deal he didn't pitch in the majors
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: this past. Season braves had scooped him up late and
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: they ended up non tendering. Him so krats to The
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: angels have some lottery tickets that could hit this coming.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: SEASON i, mean, yeah why? Not LIKE i.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: DON'T i don't See Grayson rodriguez as the same lottery.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: TICKET i also don't. See and this is the ignorant
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: player in me and not the scout BECAUSE i haven't
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Watched Alec manoa when he was In TRIPLE a. Throwing
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: does he Have does he have that? Confidence and we
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: called it. Swagger he was on the mic at The
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: All Star. Game he had all that to throw his
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: pitches in the. Zone when he came, back people will, say,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: oh you, know he put on his. Weight he never.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Had he never really had to work too. Much like
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: all that stuff is just it's eyewashed unless he says,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: it unless it's out of his. Mouth it's just people
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out why he didn't do. Well the
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: reality was his slider was not in the zone as
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: much as it was early when he was An All.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Star so at twenty seven years, old you have plenty
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: of time to figure it. Out angels could have could
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: get a super huge fifteen to twenty starts out of,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: him which would read which would recoup reboot his career.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Again but he's got to come in ready because there's
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: times when you, know prospects come into spring training and
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: they just kind of get it going as the season
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: you know spring training is, going he's got to come
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: in right away for him to fit in again with With,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: kakuchi With Josey, soriano with the fact that they Have Grayson, Rodriguez,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: like you have to be ready to, go AND i
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: think he has a lot to. Prove and to, me
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: a past an Ex All star who's still twenty seven
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: years old is crazy to say. THAT i said it, twice,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: like still twenty seven years. OLD i JUST i have
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: a hard time believing it's not gonna work, out And
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: i've been wrong, Before BUT i guess it's just the
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: player in.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Me, yeah it's a.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Transform you got a big league, deal it's get. Transformed
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: it to be, GOOD i mean good. Luck Hopefully alcmanaa
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: figures it out and can do. It he's been, injured he's,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: back and hopefully The angels figure something. OUT i Think
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Mike maddox now is In Los angeles with The. Angels
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: he's a great pitching. Coach i've had him, before so
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: maybe he can figure something out For Alec manola because
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: he was fun to.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Watch but, first BET mgm Futures National league, Pennant so
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: who would represent The National? League is this? Right plus
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: six hundred for The mets six to one.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Odds they're they're, appreciating they're appreciating what they, Think oh,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Uncle Uncle stevie's gonna. Do they're already pushing it. Forward
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: if it's plus, six that means that The dodgers are
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: probably up. There that means that The phillies are up
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: there and they're gonna probably be the they'd be the
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: third team in The National.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: League is what there? Is what they're.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Thinking the team that missed the playoffs last year in The,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: mets still haven't added a starting pitcher. Yet i'm not
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Even i'm not even putting that money down With AJ's.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Money, YEAH i mean it is, Right, aj it is,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: confirmed double triple. CONFIRMED i mean to go from what
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: they just did last year to putting them at six
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to one odds to represent The National. League i'm not
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: saying it can't. Happen i'm just saying that is not
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: good value for. Me.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: No and also the other thing you have to, Understand,
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: scott you know this better THAN i, do is that
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: they are also trying to entice people into betting on.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: This so that's why they're might not be exactly. What
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: it's the.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Opposite, NO i know That mets FANS i think it being.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Placed mets fans think.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: We're one move. Away.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Boom I'm i'm the the opposite OF i don't.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Know i'm just saying that's What. Mets you've talked To mets,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Fans they're.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Like we're one move away because we Have sodo the.
• 43:12
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• 43:15
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• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Go we traded themo we Have.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Simeon, ye, dude there's there are teams that are in
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the double digits to one odds THAT i feel just as,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: good if not better.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: About, Okay Cincinnata.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Reds braves are ten to one. Odds reds are twenty
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: to one, Odds diamondbacks are thirty to one. Odds padres
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: And brewers are twelve to one. Odds so, Again i'm
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: not SAYING i think The mets are in the mix
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: with those teams as. Sure could they just totally turn it,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: around buy a bunch of pitching over the next few
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: weeks and be different next. Year no doubt the talent's,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: There but six to one that's already kind of banking
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: on The mets completely going nuts this offseason in my.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Mind so, anyway if someone else feels differently like that's good,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: value please let me, know but we'll advise you on
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: or at least on our. FRONT i have some other
• 44:10
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• 44:13
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• 44:16
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• 44:29
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• 44:46
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• 44:50
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• 44:52
  Speaker 1: May's May day has, begun so we should get out
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: of your fast krats hats and then we'll go Watch.
• 44:56
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• 45:00
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• 45:16
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• 45:25
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