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The Next Round: Todd Fuhrman’s Best Bets: LSU-Ole Miss, Florida-Auburn & NFL Week 2 | Hour 2 · The Next Round

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  Speaker 2: Todd firman is with us now part of our family
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  Speaker 3: Doing well, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: And before we get into a little bit of business,
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  Speaker 4: I want to thank you guys for sending me my
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  Speaker 2: So we look forward to seeing that, I guess, two
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  Speaker 2: Fridays from now because we're in Auburn next Friday. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll get you on with that. I could only think
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  Speaker 2: of you, honestly, Furman. I thought of you fondly this
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  Speaker 2: week because I could only think of you when the
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  Speaker 2: story first broke that Sam Leavitt was doubtful for the game.
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  Speaker 2: Because I know you've had a lot to say about
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  Speaker 2: how Lane Kiffin treats the availability report in SEC games.
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  Speaker 2: And I could only see you just rolling your eyes
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  Speaker 2: the first moment you saw that report.
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  Speaker 4: I was thoroughly entertained when I saw that information get
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  Speaker 4: out because I like to think I talk to people
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  Speaker 4: close to a lot of these power programs. They usually
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  Speaker 4: have an inkling when there's going to be a major
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  Speaker 4: injury that could break. So that took me by surprise.
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  Speaker 4: And then naturally, as always, I gravitate towards the betting
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  Speaker 4: market to see how that is going to respond. So
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  Speaker 4: what we saw to kind of walk people through that
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  Speaker 4: don't sit and stare at the screen all day like
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  Speaker 4: I do during football season, LSU was a three-point favorite
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  Speaker 4: in the game, total 58.5%. That tweet comes out from
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  Speaker 4: Pete Sammel, and you see immediately the betting market responds,
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  Speaker 4: and rightfully so, but it didn't respond nearly as aggressively
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  Speaker 4: as I would have anticipated. LSU goes from a three-point
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  Speaker 4: favorite down to 1.5%. The total ticks down from 58.5%
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  Speaker 4: to 57.5%. And within 10 minutes of that news breaking, though,
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  Speaker 4: you start to see a little bit of LSU money
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  Speaker 4: come back.
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  Speaker 1: In the market.
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  Speaker 4: When the number bottomed out at one and a half,
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  Speaker 4: you get back to two, you get back to two
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  Speaker 4: and a half. So within about a 35 minute life
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  Speaker 4: cycle in the betting market with a valuable quarterback at
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  Speaker 4: AP's out, probably worth about three and a half to
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  Speaker 4: four points, the betting market responds by just moving a
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  Speaker 4: half kick. So it goes to show that the betting
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  Speaker 4: market trusts Lane Kiffin absolutely zero and in terms of
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  Speaker 4: disclosing the kind of information. And look, if Sam Leavitt
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  Speaker 4: was dinged up, I mean, full marks to them for
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  Speaker 4: handling it the right way. But if this was all gamesmanship,
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  Speaker 4: I think the SEC has to start handing out sterner
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  Speaker 4: penalties if they want to try and think they're creating
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  Speaker 4: a level of transparency, knowing that sports betting isn't going away,
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  Speaker 4: especially in that conference.
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  Speaker 5: With that said, Furman, LSU, depending on where you shop at,
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  Speaker 5: two and a half to three right now, I.
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  Speaker 5: The Ole Miss defense, based on what I saw on
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  Speaker 5: that Monday night against Louisville, scares me. They missed a
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  Speaker 5: lot of tackles. But what scares me more is Sam
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  Speaker 5: Levitt and his ability to turn the football over on
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  Speaker 5: the road with this buzz. I like Ole Miss. Where
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  Speaker 5: are you on this game?
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  Speaker 4: So my numbers actually show a little bit of value
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  Speaker 4: as odd as this may sound in LSU here. Even
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  Speaker 4: if I factor in what will be one of the
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  Speaker 4: more overwhelming home field advantages in a college football game
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  Speaker 4: this season. But I don't get to making a bet,
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  Speaker 4: making LSU a three and a half point favorite after
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  Speaker 4: I handle that adjustment. Where I do see a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of opportunity if Sam Leavitt is at all dinged
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  Speaker 4: up knowing the strength of this Ole Miss defense. As
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  Speaker 4: you alluded to, LT appears to be in that defensive line,
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  Speaker 4: a secondary that leaves a little bit to be desired.
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  Speaker 4: But I think if you make LSU one-dimensional, the one
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  Speaker 4: dimension that you want to see them try and go
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  Speaker 4: out there and execute would be a vertical passing game,
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  Speaker 4: because I think that's where LSU has some deficiencies. And
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  Speaker 4: on the other side of the ball, look, I think
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  Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin and company will have a few unique looks
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  Speaker 4: for Trinidad Chambliss. They may know Chambliss better than he
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  Speaker 4: knows himself, having designed the offense that he's largely going
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  Speaker 4: to be running, of course, with some different tweaks that
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  Speaker 4: John David Baker taking over. People want to bet for points,
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  Speaker 4: and I understand where they're coming in thinking this is
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  Speaker 4: going to be a track meet. Familiarity for me in
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  Speaker 4: the past typically breeds teams that know each other inside
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  Speaker 4: and out. I lean under the total, especially as this
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  Speaker 4: number continues to climb, sitting just north of the key
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  Speaker 4: number at 58 and that 58.5 range in hard rock bets.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I want to talk about tonight, if I can, Forrester.
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  Speaker 1: It's not Forrester. Furman, I appreciate you, man, being on
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  Speaker 1: with us, Mr.
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  Speaker 5: Furman.
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  Speaker 1: Houston and Texas Tech tonight. Fascinating game to me. I
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  Speaker 1: am so worried about this Texas Tech offense. How do
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  Speaker 1: you see that big, huge Big 12 game playing out?
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  Speaker 4: And rightfully so. I mean, Tech hasn't exactly looked dynamic
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  Speaker 4: in the first two games. And you can understand that
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  Speaker 4: there are some legitimate concerns. Did they rush Will Hammond back?
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  Speaker 4: Because they had to, knowing that Brandon Storsby was expected
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  Speaker 4: to be QB1. And we know all of the off-field
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  Speaker 4: transgressions that didn't allow him to be a part of
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  Speaker 4: the program. The problem for Tech right now, the offense
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  Speaker 4: can be one thing, but this defense lost some legitimate studs.
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  Speaker 4: Jacob Rodriguez in the linebacking room, who was out there
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  Speaker 4: as a tackling machine in his NFL debut for the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 4: David Bailey and how disruptive he could be. And a
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  Speaker 4: secondary for Tech that I think got away with a
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  Speaker 4: bit of a free pass, knowing that the defensive line
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  Speaker 4: essentially lived in the backfield last year. Now, on the
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  Speaker 4: flip side of things for Houston, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: put a whole lot of stock in their win over
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  Speaker 4: Southern last week. You have one data point where Houston
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  Speaker 4: looked a little bit better on the stat sheet, albeit
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  Speaker 4: at home in a game that was marred by weather
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  Speaker 4: against Oregon State, where Texas Tech needed to erase that
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  Speaker 4: deficit in the fourth quarter. And I think it's still
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  Speaker 4: trying to cover Jake Legree in that Beavers receiving room.
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  Speaker 4: But this is a number, guys, where Tech would have
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  Speaker 4: been a 13.5 to 14 point favorite if we saw
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  Speaker 4: this game played week one. I'm not sure I'm buying
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  Speaker 4: a full touchdown move to that seven and a half range,
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  Speaker 4: but I do think defense could rule the day. And
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  Speaker 4: both of these offenses have some questions to answer. So
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  Speaker 4: I like this game under the total in the first half.
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  Speaker 4: I think you're going to get the best out of
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  Speaker 4: Texas Tech. I'm just not sure how good that really is.
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  Speaker 4: And let's see if Willie Fritz unleashes his five-star athlete,
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback, and Keyshawn Henderson, who was phenomenal in the
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  Speaker 4: limited snap count last week against Southern.
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  Speaker 2: One potentially under the radar game nationally in the Southeastern Conference,
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  Speaker 2: Mississippi State at South Carolina, Furman. And South Carolina is
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  Speaker 2: a four-point favorite with State coming into town. Kamario Taylor
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  Speaker 2: has been the talk of the SEC. And some people
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  Speaker 2: in the nation are calling him maybe the best quarterback
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  Speaker 2: in the nation. Is there a chance they've got, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you never would have said this a year ago or so,
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  Speaker 2: that they've got the quarterback advantage in this game between
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  Speaker 2: Kamario Taylor and Lenore Sellers?
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  Speaker 4: I do think you have to give Camario a slight
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  Speaker 4: nod over Lenora Sellers, but that, of course, won't be
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  Speaker 4: lost on Sellers in this kind of spot. He's human
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  Speaker 4: like everybody else and has no doubt probably had to
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  Speaker 4: read all the press clippings, as was Camario Taylor, you know,
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  Speaker 4: grabbing those headlines. And this gives them an opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: go out there and prove a point. When you look
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  Speaker 4: at these two teams and who they've played so far,
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  Speaker 4: South Carolina hasn't been tested by any stretch of the imagination.
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  Speaker 4: Mississippi State no doubt opened some eyeballs with a dominant
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  Speaker 4: performance going into unfamiliar territory and really taking it to
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  Speaker 4: Minnesota from start to finish. The thing for South Carolina, though,
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  Speaker 4: I really anticipate they've been playing a bit coy and
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  Speaker 4: no greater illustration of that than them kind of holding
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  Speaker 4: Dylan Stewart out. And looking to unleash him this week
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  Speaker 4: against the Mississippi State offensive line that I think will
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  Speaker 4: be tested in a way that they haven't through the first.
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  Speaker 1: Couple of games.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned Lenora Sellers, and I think he'll be able
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  Speaker 4: to flourish against the Mississippi State defense that has improved
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  Speaker 4: this year, but still not where they need to be
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  Speaker 4: before the season again. And I hate to revert back
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  Speaker 4: to preseason power ratings because we have seen these teams play.
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  Speaker 4: I made South Carolina a six-point favorite on.
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  Speaker 1: A neutral field.
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  Speaker 4: So if I factor in Williams-Brice for this spot, it
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  Speaker 4: would be north of a touchdown. I, of course, have
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  Speaker 4: upgraded Mississippi State arguably as much as any team in
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  Speaker 4: the country, not named UMass, through the first couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a good buy-low opportunity for South Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: And if you have access to the team total at
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  Speaker 4: Hard Rock, I think that may be the best way
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  Speaker 4: to attack the Gamecocks. I think they scored north of
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  Speaker 4: 30 and forced Mississippi State to keep up from start
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  Speaker 4: to finish.
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  Speaker 5: Berman, two first-year coaches in John Summerall and Alex Golish
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  Speaker 5: squaring off six-pack ESPN Central time tomorrow. Florida's look like
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  Speaker 5: the better team. One of the reasons they're a two-and-a-half-point favorite.
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  Speaker 5: But Auburn getting points in Jardiner at night. Where are
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  Speaker 5: you right now on this matchup?
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  Speaker 4: This is a game, in all honesty, I'm more excited
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  Speaker 4: to watch than I will be LSU Ole Miss. Because
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  Speaker 4: I think we have a pretty good indication of what
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  Speaker 4: those two teams are going to be. Whereas the winner
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  Speaker 4: of this game suddenly becomes a thorn in the side
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  Speaker 4: of the rest of the SEC. And if Florida were
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  Speaker 4: to go on the road and get this win, potentially
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  Speaker 4: get a deflated Ole Miss team next week, Suddenly we're
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  Speaker 4: talking about the Gators 4-0 and being 2-0 in conference.
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  Speaker 4: But before we get ahead of ourselves there, this game
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  Speaker 4: for me, LT, I wanted to be on Auburn. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 4: the market is not going to allow me to back
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  Speaker 4: the Tigers here. I was looking for a field goal.
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  Speaker 4: That was going to be my buy point. Haven't loved
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  Speaker 4: what I've seen out of this Auburn offense. It's looked
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  Speaker 4: a little bit clunky, at least through the first two games.
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  Speaker 4: Southern Miss game, you know, I don't put a whole
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  Speaker 4: lot in it. But again, Baylor is kind of where
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  Speaker 4: I go back. Meanwhile, for Florida, they absolutely eviscerated FAU
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  Speaker 4: in their opener. They were dominant like you'd expect them
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  Speaker 4: to be against Campbell. So I'm not quite sure we'll
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  Speaker 4: take away from that. The matchup to watch that I
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  Speaker 4: think will determine this outcome isn't Auburn offensively against Florida's defense.
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  Speaker 4: It's more on the other side in terms of what
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  Speaker 4: DJ Durkin can do to throw looks at Aaron Filo
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  Speaker 4: and confuse him. Because I think what's underrated about this
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  Speaker 4: Florida team is their skill position talent, not just with
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  Speaker 4: Jaden Ball in the backfield, but it's a relatively deep
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  Speaker 4: receiving room. So Auburn is going to have to get
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  Speaker 4: after Aaron Filo, get him off his mark and lean
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  Speaker 4: into some of that Jordan hair nighttime mystique here. But
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  Speaker 4: a game I'll watch not running to bet knowing I
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  Speaker 4: can't get Auburn plus the three.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Kentucky. They had Alabama at the half
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  Speaker 1: and then a disastrous second half. They go on the
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  Speaker 1: road to play Texas A & M. Can you make
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  Speaker 1: a case for Kentucky staying inside the number down at
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Field?
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  Speaker 4: What a wild set of games. When you look at
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  Speaker 4: how those two contests unfolded, you mentioned Kentucky getting blitzed
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  Speaker 4: 32-0 in the second half, and Kentucky took a ton
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  Speaker 4: of sharp money. I know we talked about the game
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  Speaker 4: on Friday with Kentucky right around a 10-point underdog. They
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  Speaker 4: actually went.
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  Speaker 1: Off as low as 8-0.
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  Speaker 4: In the betting market, and that wasn't the recreational bettors
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  Speaker 4: gravitating towards the home underdog in Lexington. Alabama found another gear.
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  Speaker 4: Kentucky wasn't able to match, and the final score cosmetics
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  Speaker 4: looked to be a little misleading. But not to be outdone,
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  Speaker 4: Texas A & M was in a unique game of
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  Speaker 4: their own. I mean, essentially what appeared to be or
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  Speaker 4: thought it was going to be a four-quarter fight turned
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  Speaker 4: into a blow with A & M exploding for 24
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  Speaker 4: points in the fourth quarter, a couple of pick sixes,
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  Speaker 4: some short fields, and they really made life difficult for
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  Speaker 4: Cutter Bowley under center. So when you have those combination
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  Speaker 4: of events, you have, in my opinion, what's a slightly
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  Speaker 4: inflated number that got out to 17 in this game.
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  Speaker 4: I worry about Kentucky's receivers being able to create some
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  Speaker 4: separation against that A & M defensive backroom. I was
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  Speaker 4: a seller of A & M before the year, and
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  Speaker 4: that's not really going to change. I do think Kentucky
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  Speaker 4: makes a little bit of sense as a value proposition,
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  Speaker 4: knowing that the scoreboards have inflated this number past where
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was going to open in that 14
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  Speaker 4: and 14 and a half range and probably stick all week.
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  Speaker 1: One more before we get to some NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Just next door to us here in Tuscaloosa, Florida State
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  Speaker 2: is playing at Alabama. I want to know what you
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  Speaker 2: think of the game overall, but specifically, the total at 49.5,
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  Speaker 2: Alabama's defense has been absolutely dominant. Florida State's offense is not.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that 49.5 total, while kind of low in
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  Speaker 2: college football, to me feels a little high for this
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  Speaker 2: game because of Alabama's defense.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned it, Brownie, and I think that's a story
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  Speaker 4: that's probably not getting enough credit through the first couple
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  Speaker 4: weeks of the season. So much of the attention was
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  Speaker 4: focused on what Keelan Russell, Ryan Coleman-Williams, and that Alabama
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  Speaker 4: offense would look like. But it's the defense that has
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  Speaker 4: really stolen the show. There was one coverage break against
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  Speaker 4: East Carolina, and they were pretty buttoned up for four
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  Speaker 4: quarters there. And then just finding a way to elevate
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  Speaker 4: things against Kentucky in that second half really stood out
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  Speaker 4: in hostile territory. And against the Florida State team, that's
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  Speaker 4: extremely one-dimensional defensively. Ashton Daniels doesn't scare you throwing the
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  Speaker 4: ball downfield. If you can sell out and stop chroma
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  Speaker 4: in the backfield, I think things can snowball pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 4: The problem that I have in trying to make it
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  Speaker 4: strong case to go under the total is I don't
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  Speaker 4: have much confidence in Florida State defensively. If Alabama wants
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  Speaker 4: to open it up, And exact to measure revenge for
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  Speaker 4: what didn't go their way at Joe Campbell last year.
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  Speaker 4: I think they can do it. Florida State's going to
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  Speaker 4: do everything they can early in this contest to kind
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  Speaker 4: of shorten the game, be a little bit more methodical
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  Speaker 4: on offense. But that's a great plan until you get
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  Speaker 4: down by 14 to 17 points. If you're looking to
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  Speaker 4: get involved here, I'll default to the team total market.
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  Speaker 4: I would rather focus on Alabama's offense having success against
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  Speaker 4: the FSU defense and making a case there more so
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  Speaker 4: than getting involved in a full game total where I
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  Speaker 4: think Alabama realistically can run away and hide in this
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  Speaker 4: game and Florida State may not give you much.
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  Speaker 1: SMU Louisville before we move to the NFL. I apologize
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  Speaker 1: for adding one on here. I look back and Brett
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  Speaker 1: Lashley has beaten Brom both times they played. This game's
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  Speaker 1: in Louisville. And I really have liked Keen Holtz more
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  Speaker 1: than Jennings through the first two weeks of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a lean on SMU Louisville, one of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest games of the weekend?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a real fun game, and I think when you
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  Speaker 4: do this long enough, you hate to kind of look
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  Speaker 4: at Malcolm Gladwell talking about thin slicing, and you look
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  Speaker 4: at a number and it leaves you scratching your head.
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  Speaker 4: I imagine, I don't want to put words in LT's mouth,
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  Speaker 4: but I have an idea where he's going in this game.
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  Speaker 4: When you see Louisville open as a one-point favorite, it
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  Speaker 4: feels like it is begging, and I mean begging, for
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  Speaker 4: folks to run to the window and back Lincoln Keyholtz,
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  Speaker 4: because people do remember what they saw that opening weekend.
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  Speaker 4: And that was Louisville having a chance to upset Ole
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  Speaker 4: Miss and being better, arguably, for four quarters. Meanwhile, SMU
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  Speaker 4: continued to shoot themselves in the foot, self-destructing, and limped
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  Speaker 4: across the finish line, pushing against Florida State. This SMU team,
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  Speaker 4: at least early on, has been a little bit disappointing
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  Speaker 4: in the trenches. You mentioned the erratic play of Kevin
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  Speaker 4: Jennings and looking like you're going to have a quarterback
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: advantage for Louisville. But Rhett Lashley has had some things
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: up his sleeve in the previous two meetings. I think
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: some of that can continue in this particular spot. Not
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: a game that I'm running to get involved in, but
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: I will say, buyer beware here with Louisville a one-point favorite.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't be surprised to see SMU actually close a one-point
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: favorite in the contest. Curious to see if this total
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: continues to come down, because if it were to dip
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: below 58.5, get down maybe in that 57.5 range, I
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: think you could see some fireworks, and I like the
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: game over.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: Most people love playing overs, and if you play overs
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: last week in the NFL, you cashed in big time.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: Last night going into that game, people were like, man,
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: that total's got to be bigger. And I'm like, you
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: can't put it higher than 54.5, and it flies over
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: the total, going 72 points. I stayed away from the
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: total last night. I did like the over, but I
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: wasn't about to jump on an over the way they
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: played out in week one. I unfortunately had Detroit. I
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: thought 31 would have been enough. With all that said...
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, how much have the books adjusted these totals? And,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: you know, how do you play NFL totals this week
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: with everything flying over last week?
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Well, if you thought 31 was going to be enough
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: for the Lions to cover five and a half, imagine
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: how I felt last week with Carolina scoring 37, catching
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: three and a half against the Bears and still not
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: getting within the side three touchdowns. So I feel your
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: pain completely when it comes to betting some of these
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: dogs that appear to be a little bit overmatched on paper.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: The craziest part about this game, LT, and I look
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: at games a lot differently, of course, than most will.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is a 34-17 game with 11 minutes
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: to go in the fourth quarter. If the Lions don't
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: punch it in and get the penalty on fourth down,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: it's a 34-17 game and the over becomes a legitimate sweat.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: If Buffalo wants to bleed a little clock and take
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: it down to about five minutes, punt and pin, and
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: suddenly you're going, wait a second. So much has to
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: go right to go over a total this large. Now
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: I know when you say that people look at the
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: final scoring up 72 points game was a rocking chair over.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I take a slightly different approach in terms of total
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: this week. I do think there are some games where
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: the numbers are a little bit inflated and you've seen
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: some under money come in the market. As a result,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: the bears Vikings game opened 48 and a half. Took
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: some over money to get to 50, and then you
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: begin to realize it's a chess match between Brian Flores
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: and Ben Johnson. It's Carson Wentz as a starting quarterback,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: and I'm not sure anyone feels comfortable going over a
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: total of 50 with Wentz being one of the signal
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: callers that's out there. We saw the Bengals involved in
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: a 33-27 track meet against Tampa, but the advanced box
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: scores that we run every week didn't suggest it should
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: have had nearly that many points. And the same could
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: be said for the Bills-Texans game that saw 67 points.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: So it leads me to trying to find ways to
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: make cases for these unders. Did find one in that
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Bengals-Texans game, went under 47, went under that total in
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: the first half. And the Sunday-Nighter as well made a
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: slight case to go under in the first half. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: think this Chiefs offense is a little bit too one-dimensional.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: The Colts offense is struggling a bit. So you know me.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I'm going to try and gravitate towards defense-making adjustments. And
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: the element of surprise not necessarily being there for some
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: of these offensive coordinators after the highest scoring opening NFL
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Sunday that we have seen since the NFL-AFL merger.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: The Cardinals are only three and a half point dogs
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: at Seattle. I mean, in the offseason, what was this?
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you first saw a point spread, Seattle
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: playing those to Arizona, what was this number?
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look ahead numbers here on this game. If we
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: assume Sam Darnold was healthy, it would have been nine,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: nine and a half.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: So you make.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: That four point adjustment, four, four and a half point
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: adjustment from Darnold down the lock. Arizona's power rating gets
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: a boost when you went outright as an eight and
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: a half point underdog. And here we are sitting with
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: this number, albeit Seattle having extended rest.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: But I think this.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Cardinal team was overlooked by a lot of folks. I
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: know when we talked about it, I thought they could
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: be a point spread darling. I wasn't sure they were
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: going to pull off the outright upset. But roster-wise, there's
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: no comparison of what the Cardinals have from an offensive
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: and defensive standpoint compared to some of the bottom feeders
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: in the league, like the Cleveland Browns, like the Miami Dolphins,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: and the Tennessee Titans. to some extent. I think this
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: is a team that should be power rated somewhere in,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: you know, that, you know, 20 to 24 range. This
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: is a little bit of a bridge too far. So
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I can't back Arizona here, but I'm not sure laying
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: points on the road with drew lock is a zip
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: code that I want to be in anytime soon. I
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: didn't feel comfortable doing it when he was a quarterback
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: at Missouri. I sure don't feel comfortable doing it in
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: the NFL, but a great measuring stick game for both
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: these teams. And what a wild storyline it would be
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: for a team that was a hundred to one at
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: hard rock back to win the NFC West coming into
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: the year. potentially being 2-0 with a win over the
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: defending Super Bowl champion if they can pull it off
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: on Sunday.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Furman, don't get hit by people jumping off the Broncos
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: in Bo Nix's bandwagon after week one. Jacksonville comes to town.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: What do you make of the Broncos? There seems to
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: be a lot of panic in the Bronco market.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I was going to send you an air
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: cast on the way for that sprained ankle since I
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: know you like to lead the brigade of jumping off
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: bandwagons after just one bad 60-minute sample size. But history
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: tells you the Broncos will probably bounce back in this game,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: but it has been a battle in the betting market.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Broncos now a two-and-a-half point favorite at Hard Rock. We've
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: seen some books go to three and a little bit
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: of resistance there. A little bit of over money has
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: come in as well. Look, Denver can't be as bad
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: on the defensive side from a tackling standpoint as what
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: we saw against Kenneth Walker and company. That looked more
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: like an FBS-FCS matchup than anything else. But this Jacksonville
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: team also had a tremendous amount of success in this
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: building last year. A 34-20 win. Parker Washington going for
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: 140-plus receiving yards. And the one thing about Denver that
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I think it's overlooked, while a lot of people buy
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: into the defense, when they step up, we've seen crooked
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: numbers get put up against them. There's no John Franklin
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Myers on this defense, Jonathan Cooper dealing with the off-field situation.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: So it changes some of the depth for a team
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: that likes to play light boxes. And when you have
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: a cover corner Patrick Sertan that can erase part of
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: the field, it's great against teams that have one true
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: number one receiver. But Jacksonville has a trio of guys
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: that can beat you in Parker Washington, Jacoby Myers, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Jr. So a fun, fun game here where
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I think Denver will look better on both sides of
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: the ball, but Jacksonville may be the real deal. I
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: actually like this game over the total a bit, and
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: personally bet Bo Nix over his passing yardage total at 222.5.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: All right. All right. Furman. Welcome back, Bo.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Furman, as you go, people, if you're under the radar pick,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: what you got for us this weekend under the radar?
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, split last week with Air Force struggling to get there.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Got themselves in a hole 35-13 against North Dakota State.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Fought back valiantly, couldn't get there. But at least we
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: got the outright win with FAU on the money line.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Plus $ 1. 85. When it comes to week three, before we
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: start to head into conference play, there's always an opportunity
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: for a little bit of dumpster diving. And since we've
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: kind of gone two, I'll give you two this week.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: One total, one side. South Alabama against Ohio. Total on
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: that game has been bet down a touch from 54
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: down to 49. And that's because Ohio is dealing with
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: a rash of injuries at the quarterback position and running
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: back wise. Bishop Davenport had a big day last week
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: against Tulane, but I think the Ohio defense will provide
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: a little bit more resistance. I look for this game
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: to start slowly. I'll go under 24 and a half.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: In the first half of that game. And then who
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: doesn't love spending their Saturdays either with Dunaway or rooting
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: for Akron football. I think Akron hangs around against Minnesota.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I'll take Zippy Chippy plus the 23 and a half
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: against the Gophers. Minnesota's flow methodical could be nursing their
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: wounds for having their soul snatch last week against Mississippi State.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: So give me the zips. Anything north of three touchdowns.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: My numbers make it in that 20 and a half range.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: And I would not be surprised if Akron is able
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: to turn this into a little bit more of a
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: sweat for the Golden Gophers than what this number suggests.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I watched much, much, much, much, much more of Ohio
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: than I ever wanted to last Saturday night. They are
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: not a good football team. Not a good football team.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: That is putting it mildly. Ohio has plenty of things
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: that they have to work through, to say the least.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: And quarterback depth when you're at a G6 school is
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: not going to be a position of strength. So if
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: South Alabama can go out there and just get to
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: the half, up 20-3, I'll feel a lot better about things.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Of course, the backup came in and beat my Jacksonville
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: State Gamecocks in overtime. But that is another story.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: To the Gamecocks credit, that was one of the more
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: misleading finals. And I know it's not salve in the
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: wound when you're not able to get the win. But
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: you look at that box score, the way that game
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: played out, Ohio probably wins that game about 10% of
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not a good performance by Charles Kelly
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: and his Jacksonville State Gamecocks down the stretch there. Furman,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: thank you very much for the time. Bet the Board
• 23:04
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• 23:08
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• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, Furman. We'll see you next Friday.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Always a pleasure, gentlemen.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Enjoy the game.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: All right, buddy. You too. Thank you.
• 23:15
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  Speaker 1: Alabama here.
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  Speaker 6: He doesn't know it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: He's at a golf tournament.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: I'll see him shortly.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Alabama Cambo. I like it. Yeah, I mean, come on.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised you could see me. Hey, what a difference
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: a year makes, man. People like me, I know definitely
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: you thought Lance, Brownie. Thought it was going to be
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a cakewalk last year in Tallahassee. I warned all summer
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: long it wasn't going to be as easy as everybody thought,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: but I never thought Alabama was going to lose that
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: football game. A year later, it feels like we're in
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the same position. It doesn't feel like Alabama has a
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: chance of losing this game, and most of us don't
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: even think it's going to be close again. How do
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you feel?
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Well, last year I was kind of on the other end.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: When Jake and I finished our show, I told him
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: that I thought that it was a trap for us.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: I just had that feeling that they weren't prepared. This year,
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: I think Alabama's in really good position. The fact that
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: they attack on third down like they have. Only one
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: third down conversion that their defense has allowed this year.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: Florida State struggled. Ashton Daniels is not a good quarterback.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, we know that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: And if they control the run game and force Florida
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: State to throw, I think Alabama's going to be on
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: attack mode. And then the other thing, too, and I've
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: heard this from a few people, they've been extra motivated
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: for this game. I think revenge factor is going to
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: be a big deal. And if If it's a blowout,
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Mike Norvell could get fired in that case.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Think about that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's chaos over there at Florida State. You know,
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: they had it more together last year, the Simmons.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: Look, this defense, you talk about third downs. I think
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: it is 1-23 right now. They feel it's crazy. It's
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: a championship-level defense. Keelan Russell is going to be really good. But,
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: you know, the focus coming into the season, balance on offense.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Can Ryan Grubb in this unit, can they run the
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: football consistently? I mean, first two tests against East Carolina
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: and Kentucky, They've kind of looked the part.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: They look improved. But do you think it continues to
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: play out like that?
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: I hope so.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: I really like Alabama being smart about their play calling,
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: run the football, and play to the defense. This defense
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: up front is so good. And how about the linebackers?
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Alabama is underrated with the job they did in the
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: transfer portal. Caleb Woodson looks like one of the best linebackers.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: You talk about Green and Tompkins up front. I mean,
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: they're getting back at the quarterback. Luke Metz, who obviously
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: didn't transfer in, but he's been so good. The secondary's great.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: I think Alabama's defense is going to be hard to
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: drive consistently on for a team like Florida State. So
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: I'm watching the first half of the Kentucky game, and
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: they're doing all this passing and kind of these weird
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: plays Jake was talking about on our show, last call
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: right here on this platform, that he hated that throw
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: that was the one that got intercepted because you have
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: to get around in the end. The angle's tough.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Don't take tough angles.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: Give the ball to Daniel Hill and punt. Nick Saban
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: was a master of understanding what his team could do
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: and what he had and strength was, right? Our strength
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: right now isn't going to be throwing the football down
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: the field. Eventually, it will. Our strength right now is
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: running the ball, which we did in the second half
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: very effectively with Hill, and then the defense.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Was that a subtle shot at Caleb O'Brien?
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: Oh, Ryan Grubb.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I've seen a film break out. You can get
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Mick's and Jake Coker's show at Next Round Live on YouTube.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: At Next Round Live on YouTube is Last Call. The
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: former Alabama quarterback, Jake Coker, he and Mick talk Alabama football,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: and they do a tremendous job. So many of you
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: love it. The latest one.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Out called the Coker Bowl because Jake played it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Really interesting this weekend because Jake was at both places.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: But I've seen a film break down on that play,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people thought that was an RPO.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: You're talking about the pick six on the goal line.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah. A lot of people thought that was an RPO.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: When in fact, if you look at it, it's a
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: tunnel screen to Ryan Coleman Williams. But they they allow
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: a free run by a big defensive end. I mean,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: a big rush in.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And I think Jake's point is the quarterback's responsible for
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: that defensive end.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: He's got to play around him. It's hard to do.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Right. But that's also a pretty big dude. I mean,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: you're asking Keelan Russell, a very young quarterback, to do
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: a lot on that play.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's his first, like, road game. How about
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: do this on the play?
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: It was an aggressive call on the goal line.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: Right, right.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: Keelan Russell.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: But if you look at it from the end zone,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: they got it set up. But that was a hell
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: of a play by that. But if they get it
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: to Coleman Williams, it goes to the house.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: If they give it to Coleman Williams, he goes a
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: long way. If you look from end zone, the opposite
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: end zone, he's got some running.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: And look, I understand.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Wait, I dropped the ball.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: He would have caught it.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: I understand, too, like where Ryan Grubb is. He said
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: in the press conference, like, you know, they can't really
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: get to a lot of the stuff because they've got
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: to figure out the basics.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: And I know that. He's going to be able to
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: do a lot of great stuff with with Keelan Russell.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: But the strength of this team today is defense. Tomorrow,
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: it's going to be they're going to throw the ball
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: all over the place. I mean, this this guy is
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: super talented. He's he could be the most talented quarterback
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: Alabama's ever had. And I'm looking at, you know, Joe
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: Namath on the wall. That's pretty high praise. But he's
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: just not there yet.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: You went by a hell of a lot of good
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks to get Joe Namath on that wall.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, Joe is on the wall. And there are
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: no pictures between here and Joe Namath. I understand that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I still think Bryce Young is the best I've seen
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: here personally.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: He's right there. No, I get that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: I get that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: And he won a championship and Bryce did. Good point.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll stick with my man Stedman Sheely.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I think he did a lot back in the day.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: All right, this is Vic Gillespie. We'll continue on with him.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: If I asked you away from Alabama football, the best
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: team in the SEC right now, in your opinion, is?
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: I think it's Texas. I mean, I know that.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Not the answer I thought you were going to say.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: Well, Arch Manning, he's got to look off receivers, right?
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: You watch him throw, and it's like he's going to
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: throw it to the first guy that he sees. But
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: they've got so much talent, right? The second half of
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: the Ohio State game, they just ran the ball right
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: down Ohio State's throat. And I think Ohio State is
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: a contender for the national championship. You know, George is
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: really good, too. And I'm curious to see what LSU
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: looks like against Ole Miss this weekend. Two former Alabama assistants.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: I feel like it's a grudge match. So those three teams.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Well, where you're going to be later today, up the
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: street a little bit, it is free. Lane Kiffin's been there. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: he has.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: That's a whole other story.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: His special spot in the kitchen.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: I want to do like– Do you.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Have any true stories you can tell us about Lane Kiffin?
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: You spent plenty of time down here.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to save that for– my Chappelle show,
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: the Mick show. I'm going to dress up like Lane, like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: you know, he did with Rick James and go through
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: all of these stories that I've heard.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: And then it'd been like, how far are you going
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: to go on the reenactment?
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: All the way back to Tennessee, all the way back
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: to Tennessee, maybe the Raiders.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: People would pay for that fantasy camp, wouldn't they?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: As far as he can.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I did.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I saw that.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: I saw that bit.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hilarious.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: Kiffin would blow those out.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Nice choice of words.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Would you, uh, how much would you want to be
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: in that circus this week? Like if I gave you tickets,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: would you want to go over there?
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't know. How much would I have to pay
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: you to go do that? That's crazy.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: I was talking to a buddy of mine, uh, that
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: was saying that, that he works with the bus and
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: with the boy guy, boys guys. Yeah. And they got
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: sent to, um, down to Florida, Auburn, uh, Florida game.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: And then we were talking about this same topic. I mean,
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: on the drive in my man Cruz. And I was like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I, I've seen all this stuff. President
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: Trump coming to the Alabama-LSU game or the Georgia game
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: and all the people from all over. I can watch
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: it on TV and be just as comfortable. Who knows
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: how much debris is going to be thrown on the field?
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: It could be a long night.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Those weekends are young man games. Game of the century,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't as hostile here. The 2019, a little
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: bit more hostile, but still not the same. They've actually
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: put up fencing around where the visiting bus will unload.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: They built fencing, high fencing. And then they're talking about
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: maybe an extra covering of where Ole Miss comes out.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, where LSU comes out to get Kiffin out
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: of the tunnel onto the field. So there may be
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: a little extended tunnel. I mean, literally things you do
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: when presidential presidents are leaving buildings.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was talking to Chris Lowe about this, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: I said, it reminds me of, like, WrestleMania, right? And
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: Lane Kiffin is definitely a Ric Flair type of heel.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: I mean, he is the perfect heel for the Tennessees
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: and Ole Miss. Everywhere he goes and works, you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: he leaves quite a legacy behind of hate, you know? Like,
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: they were burning couches when he left.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: And I still don't get it because he's such an
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: awkward guy that's never won anything.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, he really has. Unlike Ric Flair. If we
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: ever hyped a.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Coach up to this level... That is, I mean, I
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: can't think of anybody that hasn't won a championship.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to come up with
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: an example. No, I mean, it is really hard.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Like, I think for a long time, people thought in
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: the NFL, John.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Gruden would fix it. He's at least won a Super Bowl.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, Gruden's been a good coach. With Tony Dungy's players,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: but yeah.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: No, but you are right.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, Gruden was one of those guys that had
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: kind of an aura about him.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: Everybody wanted him. But Gruden had that good personality. It's
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: just something so weird about Lane.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I don't get it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Again, I think he's a really good coach, too. I
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: think he's an elite coach. He's getting closer to that.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: But the fanfare around him and the buzz and just
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: the attraction blows me away.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Crazy scene this weekend. What else are you talking about
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: on your show today, Ben?
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, we're going to get into this football game. Obviously,
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: what's going on around the SEC. I'd love to get
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: Coker's takes on plays like the pick six. What a
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: quarterback's thinking in that position.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Hard to believe it's been 11 years now since he
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: won a national championship.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Seems like yesterday.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: And Derrick Henry is still... Did you see his week
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: for the Ravens last week?
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Mick's a big Ravens fan. I didn't realize Mick
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: went to, you know, obviously he was in school here.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: I know you're from Maryland, but I didn't realize you
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: went to Maryland.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, transferred. Maryland transferred.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: Football Saturday is a little different, right?
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: Coker makes fun of playing against Maryland there. He was like,
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: I could hear one guy yelling at him.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Next round live on YouTube. You can always find our
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: stuff at next round live on YouTube and on social media.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Same thing. Same thing.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Next round live, whether we're old sporting state or not,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: you'll see last call with Mick and Jake poker, the
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Alabama national champion quarterback on there several.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Times a week.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Y'all have fun down at industry, man. That'd be a
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: good time today.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: You guys good to see you guys too. Always watching
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: the show and, Extra hours, more work for you guys.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not work. It's not work, man. It's play.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I know Brown's words before it even comes up in
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: his mouth.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: It's not work, man.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: And don't forget the postgame show, too.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, any Alabama postgame. Next round, like, same exact place
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: we're talking about. You can catch Mick taking phone calls.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: He'll just take phone calls and talk to you for
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: a few hours.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Fun time.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: We drank bourbon last week.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Okay. Mick and I got on the wrong side of
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: each other last year because I believe you've got to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: trust your kicker. You can't bury him as early as
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Connor Tulte got buried last year by Mick.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Looks pretty good so far this year.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: I'm getting my 31 jerseys. I'm happy about that.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: You have him missing three kicks tomorrow, by the way.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: No, he's not. He's locked in. The competition that they
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: created with Lork and Quinn.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Lork and Quinn.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Our guy from Arden.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: That guy is great. Let me tell you what.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: That kickoff, we might as well just down it. You
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: can't even take it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I was about to say, there is not an Alabama
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: opponent that will start anywhere close.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: Other than the 25. Yeah, right.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Hey, that's a weapon, too.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's a heck of a weapon.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not landing in the letter.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: No. I mean, he's kicking that thing in the stand.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: Like the first row guy is catching a football.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: But, look, I want Alabama players to do well. You
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: know what I mean? I'm really happy to see.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Your wardrobe says that. Your wardrobe says that.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: But, yeah, I mean, look at me. I'm wearing a.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Will you ever wear that again?
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: I think I want to know if Coker is going
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: to try to buy this off him.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I just can't wait to see.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: You better hope.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: It's all the stuff he loves.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Alabama camouflage.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: You know, it says turkey, deer, and water.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Waterproof, too, right? It's been laundered, right? It wasn't at
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: one point a white. That's not our all white.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, I think he took.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: This is the first time. This is the first time
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I've worn that. Oh, you did not find that, like
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: a vapor or good widows.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: That's.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: That is a purchase.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: It was a purchase.
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: I'm curious to see the person that comes up and says, dude, I.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Love your shirt. Yeah. Yeah. I think I saw that movie.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. That is a big Gillespie
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: last call and the post game show after Alabama and
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Florida state on this platform.
• 38:48
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• 38:50
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• 38:53
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  Speaker 1: for me of Lane Kiffin. Forrester has the new, most
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: likely first thing thrown at Lane Kiffin. They're actually handing
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: them out to the crowd.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: They'll hand out 64,000 light up the vault wristbands. Taylor
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Swift used to do this. One of the first to
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: do this at her concert. Beyonce does it. Everybody does
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: it now. Everybody gets a wristband. It'll be synced to
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: music and things like that in the vault tomorrow night.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Forrester says that is amazing. likely the first thing to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: be thrown at Lane Kiffin as he walks onto the field.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Light up the boss wristband. Does it have enough weight, though,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: to be able to get there? I mean, that light
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: part's got to be fairly heavy. Those other bands are
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: kind of cloth.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: It does look like the cloth that's got that pull thing.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: That's what they're going to do. I guess.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could cut it or whatever.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: There's going to be no accuracy with it. No, there's not.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: But I mean, when they put those things like... I'm
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: just saying, if you're trying to get him out of
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: the dome with something, you're not doing that. Well, I mean.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Well, this is going to be for the people close by. Obviously,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: a water bottle or something would be more... Don't throw anything.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: We're not endorsing that, but it is interesting to see
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the trash that comes out of the stands. You couldn't
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: do bat night with laying tip and it comes to test.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: It'd be a bad night for that. It'd be really tough.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: It'd be helmet night.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, they'll be throwing those on the pitch. This
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: is just one more thing, though. We talk about it
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: all the time. You've got these big games and you
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: make it such a big deal. It just overwhelms the
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: whole team. Burner phone?
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: You get a burner phone for $ 25?
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: Just chuck burner phone good.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, now this is true. It really happened. 1960s. Bear Bryant,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I think, was he coming out or going into the
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: locker room? He actually put on a helmet.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I think it was in the pregame walk.
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: No, he did.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: There's photos.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Against Georgia Tech. I thought it was at LSU.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: Was it Georgia Tech?
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: No, it's Georgia Tech. I think it was Alabama-Georgia Tech.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: The rivalry was so heated. that he actually wore a
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: helmet either off the field or onto the field. And
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: so my question is, just to lean into all of this,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: do you think Lane Kiffin comes out of the tunnel
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: with a helmet on? Oh, come on.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: You know how ridiculous that would be? Who are we
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: talking about? Tyler, Google Bear Bryant wearing a helmet.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: Okay, but Bear wasn't doing it for show back then
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: because there was no cameras around.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: No, no, there are photos of this. Yeah, see if
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: you can find it on Google there. I think Bear
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: was a bit of an entertainer then. I mean, he
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: was a much better.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Coach than Lane Kiffin. But can you imagine a standing
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: coach right now?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Did you just say Bear Brown was a much better
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: coach than Lane Kiffin?
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: I did. Is that not a true statement?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's an obvious statement, but sometimes you have to
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: make obvious statements. It's like the rooster crowing in the
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: sun every morning.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, sitting standing coach actually rolling out with a helmet
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: in today's world of just the access you've got. What
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: would be awesome?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: What would be awesome is if Kiffin, like Ole Miss
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: comes out of this tunnel, that somehow Kiffin gets over
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: to another tunnel like WWE or whatever. And you're expecting, oh,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: they're all waiting for him to come out of that tunnel.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: He just comes out of a different tunnel. He comes
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: walking out of a different tunnel, and he's out on
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the field.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: So what would happen if a battery got him in
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the temple?
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: He goes down. There it is. There's Bear Bryant in
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: his helmet. In his helmet. Right there in the middle. Yeah,
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: that might be for a little show. No, I think
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: there was some show involved. Absolutely.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I think he was a bit– he had a sense
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: of humor, right? I mean, he was a funny guy.
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, he did, yeah.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: But that really happened. That was circa 1960-something, right?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: Pictures of the Hindenburger got a lot more– clarity than this.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Here was this damn thing. That's the first picture he thought.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: It's in the 60s, man.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: It's been, what, 60 years now.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, but seriously, if you had to look at the
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: wall and do the math with the galettes, 50 years celebrating.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: If something got Kiffin in the tip when he goes out,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: do they still play the game? Charlie Weiss Jr. is
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: there in our coverage. He thinks they'll play all day.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: And they may be better off at that point with
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss Jr. Here is Lane Kiffin, cut number nine,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: about embracing the chaos this weekend.
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: You seem to always have thrived in chaos. Can you
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: sense yet if your team has that same personality where
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: us against the world can kind of be alchemy instead
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: of rat poison, or however you want.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: To say it? Yeah, I think that, you know, just
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: say I do well with it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: I think that teams over time, just like going into
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Tennessee and playing, you know, like.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Have done well. And I think our team did well
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: in the first week with all the stuff out there,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: even though it was a home game, but just dealing
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: with all that, because I also think those kids choose us,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: you know, they know what they're choosing.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: And so.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Kids that really maybe don't think that way or, or
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: that concerns them, you know, they don't come to us,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: you know, they go to a different type of program.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: So I think they, they know what they're getting into. Um,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: we are who we are and, As much as we
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: choose them, they choose us also.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Well, that's eye-opening to me that they sort of know
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: what they're getting into. They know that we are the
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: merchants of chaos, and if they don't like that kind
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: of stuff, they choose other programs.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: And I think that's.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Probably been an appealing fault to some kids on the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: recruitment trail. I mean, I think there are kids that
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: chose to play for Lane Kiffin because he is who
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: he is.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: It's not a surprise. Yeah, probably. I didn't know Stephen Wright,
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: the comedian, was still alive. I don't know if you
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: understand my question. Alchemy? Is that better? Alchemy?
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, there have got to be some guys
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: that are attracted to that in recruiting, which is crazy
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: to think about.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, and it's going to be fun if they continue
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: to win. When it doesn't become fun is when you
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: lose a couple of these games.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I thought that was an interesting statement that
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: they know what they're getting into. They know who we are.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: They choose to come here for this.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: If they don't, they're going somewhere else. I guess that's Georgia.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: The opposite of what LSU is?
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: You know, this is almost, I hate to give Lane
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: this kind of credit, but it's almost Miami back in
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: the day. I mean, those guys went to Miami. It
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: was a fun offense.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: That's what he's trying to do. I really believe that.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: It's a great comparison. I mean, and Miami was the
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: hated team. But the difference was they were winning championships.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you did get guys. It was a
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: different thing. But you got guys to come to Miami
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: because you got to be yourself.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Like Jimmy Johnson.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: And it was a show. Yeah, Dennis Erickson.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: They would allow you to put some mustard on the
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: hot dog.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: They didn't care.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: And at some point, they were the villains.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I want to be the villain.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: And they embraced it. Yeah, they embraced it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: They knew coming to every football stadium, you wanted to
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: beat the crap out of me and keep me from
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: dancing and doing all my stuff.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: See, and I like those Miami teams. I did at
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: the time. I didn't either.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: But when I watched the U. And I watched the
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: way they approached that game that was the super controversial
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: game with all the personal fouls. There was part of
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: me like, same thing with the Pistons. When I watched
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: the 30 for 30 on the bad boys, I wish
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I liked that team more in real time.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but here's the thing. They were able to talk
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: all of that shit and get an end result. Is
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: LSU going to be able to complete that? Well, that's
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: the thing Lane hasn't been able to do. He hasn't
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: been able to beat himself and win a championship. Yeah,
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: and I wouldn't equate Lane's always been Lane, but I
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: never thought that Ole Miss, those teams, had that personality.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: It's our last four minutes to talk about this game
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: before it actually takes place here on this platform. My
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: fear for Pete Golden. If Pete Golding wins this game,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I believe he becomes one of the more likable coaches
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: in all of college football because not only did he
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: beat Lane Kiffin, he won a big game, they'll be
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: ranked high, but the way he approaches life, I think
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: he is a coach for the everyman who will be
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: watching from his couch. And he'll handle it the right way.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: I'll let you get to your point.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: He'll give the team credit. It'll be all about, this
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: has nothing to do with me. This is never about
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: me and Lane. Lane will eat it up. It'll be
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: all about Lane. My fear, if.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Pete loses this game, is that Lane built Ole Miss
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: into what it is. And this could be the first
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: of a slippery slope that Ole Miss can't be Ole
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Miss what Lane has built under anybody else. It's such
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: a bigger, I said this before, other people disagree. I
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: forget where you guys landed. To me, it's a much
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: bigger game for Pete Golding than it is for Lane Kiffin.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I disagree 100% with that. I really do. I sort
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: of remembered where you landed on that.
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: I think Lane has set this up like, I can't
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: win a championship at Ole Miss. I'm leaving you guys
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: for the bigger, better program. And if you roll in
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: as the favorite the way they looked against Clemson and
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: they were to lose this game, I think it's a
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: bigger deal. I think there's more pressure. But to your point, Like,
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: the worst, the disaster would be if Ole Miss loses
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: this game by double digits. Then Ole Miss fans are
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: just like, oh, my God. You know, we paid a
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: fortune to be here. This is what we're left with.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Is Pete Golding Larry Coker?
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Well, no, Larry Coker actually has success right away. If
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: he loses this game, he'll be even worse than Larry Coker. Again,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I will say this. It's not the sexy thing to
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: talk about this week. These guys earned their money next week.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Regardless of the outcome of this game, Lane Kiffin will
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: show how good a coach he is, and Pete Golding
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: will show how good a coach he is next week
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: when Ole Miss is at Florida and LSU is hosting
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Texas A & M. Regardless of the outcome of this game,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: those games are tough on their own, but with the
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: emotions you'll be dealing with either win or lose in
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: this game, those games are so incredible.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: And look, we don't know what A & M is
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: going to do against Kentucky. We don't know what Florida
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: is going to do. But I would almost say go
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: on and grab whatever the points look like on the
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: other side of both LSU and Ole Miss next week.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: In the first case, you could split. Yeah, absolutely.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: First off, uh, Tyler Forster, can you tell me, I forget,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: is it 5930, the out time of the show?
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: I need to get.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: That done right. That is correct. Tell us again, as
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: we're celebrating 50 years here at this beautiful location, the
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: doors are about to open here for a football weekend
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: unlike any other. And this is the closest part of
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: the stadium, correct?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's. Yeah.
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: My bad. My bad. In the middle of scheduling something
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: This is definitely the closest. I mean, it's, I mean,
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: by golf terms, you guys play every day. It's not
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: even a wedge to the stadium. Oh, I don't know
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: if it is. It's a.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: It's a skull wedge.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: It's a par five.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Golfers don't like the movie 10.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: Cup written by Ron Shelfman. But you remember how he
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: won the money. You hit it on pavement, right? I
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: guarantee I can get a wedge to the stadium for me.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Anyway, great place. Free and post.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: Uh, let's 50 years. Not only the yellow hammers, great
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: mud light specials all weekend long.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah, come by and see Jeff, Derek, all the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: fine folks.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: As a friend of mine says, there's a two iron
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: in every wedge. So if you, if you fail the
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: two iron in the wedge, that's right.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: You can get it there.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, but it's a great location here on the strip
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: and you can come out here and enjoy the wonderful, uh,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: yellow hammer, which we're about to partake as we get
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: ready to do, uh, the next two hours over on
• 51:28
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• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Don't forget tonight. You got a couple of games. Miami
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: number five on the road at Wake Forest. Haven't really
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: been challenged yet. It'll be good to see that team
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: get on the field. And then the big one, 7
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: o'clock Central, Maine Fox. Houston and Texas Tech with Tech
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: getting a little healthier, but how good will their offense be?
• 51:47
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• 51:52
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