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The Next Round: Florida State in Trouble? Geoff Collins Breaks Down LSU, Alabama & College Football Week 1 | Hour 1 · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: Our buddy Jeff Collins, former college coach, right now taking
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Speaker 1: a year away from the game to join us in
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Speaker 1: the media. Will join us in segment number two today.
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Speaker 1: We'll get into more LSU as they rise up the board.
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Speaker 1: We'll get a new AP poll today. We'll see how
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Speaker 1: many people agree with Brown on the fact that LSU
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Speaker 1: should be number one. We'll get into all the other
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Speaker 1: college football stuff. We'll even tell you who we think
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Speaker 1: is going to win the MVP in the NFL today.
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Speaker 1: which starts tomorrow night. But one day without football today
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Speaker 1: with plenty of reaction as we get going on the
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Speaker 1: next round presented by Hard Rock Bets right here on
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Speaker 1: Sporting State. Jim Dunaway, Lance Taylor, Ryan Brown. The guys
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Speaker 1: behind the glass, that's Forrester back left, Brooks back right,
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Speaker 1: and the Minister of Defense, that's Tyler right there punching
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Speaker 1: the board.
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Speaker 2: Top screen right there. Good morning, guys. Hope you're doing well.
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Speaker 1: Last night, there's no way in hell if I was
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Speaker 1: Rhett Lashley, I would have signed off on playing that
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Speaker 1: game under the conditions that they were going to play
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Speaker 1: that game. The lighting didn't bother me so much. I
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Speaker 1: would imagine lighting now so much better that the few
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Speaker 1: lights they had last night would have been the equivalent
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Speaker 1: of lighting in the 1900s, in 1994 or something. 95%
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Speaker 1: of high schools will play with worse lights.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: But you can't tell me that it wasn't going to
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Speaker 1: be scary going into the game with the power outage
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Speaker 1: and we're going to play a game where I can't
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Speaker 1: talk to my quarterback when we haven't practiced that in
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Speaker 1: two years, said Rhett Lashley. The iPads on the sidelines
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Speaker 1: didn't bother me so much. But a guy in the
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Speaker 1: sky talking down to me, that was limited. There were
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Speaker 1: so many things limited. I don't know if I'd have
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Speaker 1: played the game, but hats off to Rhett Lashley. I
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Speaker 1: thought he handled it like a superstar, and they win
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Speaker 1: the game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Kevin Jennings, you can see how talented the
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Speaker 3: guy is and all of his career starts.
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Speaker 2: And the experience. He can't really.
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Speaker 3: account for experience. You can't put a price on experience.
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Speaker 3: He was really, really good outside of the turnovers. They
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Speaker 3: don't turn the football over. They win that game by
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Speaker 3: 14 plus.
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Speaker 2: LT, 4-0. I mean, take away that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that one at the end, you can't count. But
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Speaker 1: 4-0 in the turnover battle. How many times do you
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Speaker 1: win a game on the road when you lose the
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Speaker 1: turnover battle 4-0?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, this is kind of what I
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Speaker 3: was hoping that Florida State would make it sloppy. Some
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Speaker 3: big explosive plays, turning Kevin Jennings over. We had Florida
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Speaker 3: State plus points. ended up escaping, getting that thing at
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Speaker 3: three and a half. But, man, it ended up being
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Speaker 3: a really fun game. What I take from it, if
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Speaker 3: SMU can figure out a way to stop the run,
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Speaker 3: run the ball a little more effectively and not turn
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Speaker 3: it over, they're going to be really good.
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Speaker 2: Florida State is bad.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: They're just a bad football team.
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Speaker 1: I mean, when a team comes to your place and
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Speaker 1: gives you four turnovers– and you can't win the game. Oh,
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Speaker 1: that's the most damning thing of the whole night.
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Speaker 4: No doubt.
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Speaker 2: No doubt. Well, here's the combination.
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Speaker 1: One of the turnovers here, I'm sorry, Lance, but one
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Speaker 1: of the turnovers, when you muff a punt, that's almost
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Speaker 1: like two turnovers because of the field position, right? I mean,
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Speaker 1: you're giving the team, you're playing at probably minimum 35
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Speaker 1: yards of field position, if not 40, 45 yards of
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Speaker 1: field position. So that's almost like two turnovers there. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's such a bad turnover.
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Speaker 2: You do nothing with it. Lance, take me back. Take
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Speaker 2: me back, and Brownie, chime in. I can't think.
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Speaker 1: I can't think of the last time I've heard a
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Speaker 1: home crowd, especially in week one, booing the way they
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Speaker 1: were booing play calling right after that turnover when they
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Speaker 1: were running the ball on third down in the red zone.
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Speaker 2: The boos were raining down. I can never remember.
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Speaker 3: We've said Dan Midwalking all summer, and we had Danny
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Speaker 3: Connell on, Florida State alum, a couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 3: and asking him about the uncomfortable, awkward situation this is
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Speaker 3: for Mike Norvell.
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Speaker 2: But wow.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're right there neck and neck with a
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Speaker 3: top 20 team, and you are booing your coach.
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Speaker 2: At least show support.
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Speaker 3: Once we get into October and you're 1-4, you can
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Speaker 3: start booing at that point.
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Speaker 2: But look, clean slate. You're 1-0.
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Speaker 3: You're very much in this game. I didn't understand the booing,
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Speaker 3: and it was nonstop, and it was awkward.
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Speaker 2: It really is. I don't know about you guys, but.
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Speaker 1: It's been a great year for the Taylors so far
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Speaker 1: in college football. Lance Taylor, not this one, Western Michigan,
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Speaker 1: and then Taylor Tannenbaum, friend of the show, anchoring that
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Speaker 1: coverage for the power outage. Then Taylor, the other Taylor
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Speaker 1: that was the sideline reporter. She was really good, by
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Speaker 1: the way. She was fantastic getting all the information. She
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Speaker 1: kept giving us all these behind-the-scenes updates. Yeah, updates, talking
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Speaker 1: to the White Hat and Rhett Lashley. But during the
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Speaker 1: power outage, the crowd was at, because Jimbo Fisher was
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Speaker 1: on with Taylor Tannenbaum sitting on the desk, and they
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Speaker 1: started chanting. We want Jimbo.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. We want Jimbo.
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Speaker 3: We want subtitles to understand what Jimbo's saying.
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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, they want Mike out and Jimbo back. Well,
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, it would be an upgrade. That's what
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Speaker 2: I was going to say.
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Speaker 3: You've got a really bad quarterback, you've got a really
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Speaker 3: bad head coach, and you've got an awful secondary. So, like,
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Speaker 3: Florida State. gave out the under five and a half
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Speaker 3: and loved this. They might get to three wins. That's
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Speaker 3: about as good as they can play last night.
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Speaker 1: And listen, I've never met Mike Norvell. So he may
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Speaker 1: be the greatest guy in the world. But he does
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Speaker 1: so many things that I don't like. It's fingernails across
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Speaker 1: a chalkboard for me. And one of them, in one
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Speaker 1: of them, is gathering that team up before they go
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Speaker 1: into the locker room.
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Speaker 2: That is so high school. It drives me freaking crazy.
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Speaker 5: Me too.
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Speaker 1: I saw him doing it, and I'm like, God, are
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Speaker 1: we back in high school? Actually, my first thought was
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Speaker 1: the power may be off in their locker room.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. They may have to do it. Because he's always
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Speaker 2: cooler outside than inside. Yeah. He does it all the time.
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Speaker 2: It's so high school, Harry.
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Speaker 1: And you know how I know the team's not bought
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Speaker 1: in on that? Because they're showing him trying to gather
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Speaker 1: them up, and he's like gathering them up, and he's
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Speaker 1: still having to get around the crowd.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Joe, Joe, Tony, Tony, come over here.
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Speaker 4: Everybody, come over here.
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Speaker 1: And listen, I'm at college stadiums a lot. You guys
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Speaker 1: have been there. If I'm, okay, that front row of guys,
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Speaker 1: you hear him okay. That next wave of guys, maybe.
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Speaker 1: Those guys in the back, they can't hear what he's saying.
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Speaker 1: There's so much noise inside the stadium. That's all for looks.
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Speaker 6: It is.
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Speaker 2: It's all for looks. It drives me crazy. That is
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Speaker 2: so high school. Let's get in the locker room. Let's
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Speaker 2: get on the whiteboard. Yep, I'm with you.
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Speaker 3: And they've got to, I mean, the Cromaw kid can run.
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Speaker 3: They've got good backs. Back-to-back, 100-yard game. Samuel Singleton's a player.
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Speaker 3: Deuce Robinson, you know, former USC guy a couple of
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Speaker 3: years ago. I don't understand.
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Speaker 2: They ain't got a quarterback.
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Speaker 3: He's going to get buried. I mean, he's 6'6, 230 pounds.
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Speaker 3: His catch radius is massive. He is a red zone
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Speaker 3: massive threat when it comes to the next level. But
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Speaker 3: nobody's going to know who he is because the quarterback
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Speaker 3: plays so well.
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Speaker 2: So their NIL isn't broke. No, it can't be with
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Speaker 2: those guys.
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Speaker 1: Because they got Deuce Robinson. They got Wisner out of
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Speaker 1: Texas who they barely get the ball to. And they
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Speaker 1: paid him a lot.
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Speaker 2: I think. Dwiser didn't get a touch last night, did he? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and he was good.
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Speaker 1: I watched way more of that New Mexico State game
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Speaker 1: for them. Takes a quarterback to get the ball to him. Jim,
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Speaker 1: if you're spending that kind of money in the portal,
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Speaker 1: how is Ashton Daniels the quarterback you end up with?
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Speaker 1: That's what blows me away about Florida State. Mike Norvell,
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Speaker 1: absolutely coaching for his job, right? I mean, nobody thinks otherwise.
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Speaker 1: Mike Norvell knows he's coaching for his job. This is
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Speaker 1: the year that could save your job, and you scan
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Speaker 1: the whole portal, and Ashton Daniels is what you come with.
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Speaker 2: He was the best quarterback at Auburn last year. that
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Speaker 2: ain't that's a sad indictment.
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Speaker 1: I know but he was i mean that's a fact
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Speaker 1: let's say nothing yeah yes yeah he was yeah i
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Speaker 1: mean and he i mean he creates some plays but
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Speaker 1: i don't think he's a great thrower of the football
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Speaker 1: you don't really i don't think jim he throws the
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Speaker 1: ball this.
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Speaker 3: Is exactly the ashton daniels we saw a few years
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Speaker 3: ago at stanford.
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Speaker 1: It's the ashton daniels you warned auburn fans about when
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Speaker 1: they were like okay now maybe you know maybe this
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Speaker 1: guy's a You know, promising guy. And look, he had
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Speaker 1: that one game against Vanderbilt. I'll never understand it, but
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Speaker 1: that one game against Vanderbilt. So that's why they ran
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Speaker 1: the ball so much last night.
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Speaker 2: Because they can't throw it?
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Speaker 1: Because throwing is an adventure. I don't know if SMU
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Speaker 1: can run it.
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Speaker 2: That's what I was saying.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they can run it, if they
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Speaker 3: can stop the run and don't turn it over. I mean,
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Speaker 3: that's a lot to clean up after week one. But
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Speaker 3: they did survive what was just an absolute mess for SMU.
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Speaker 3: Because at times, you know, Kevin Jennings played really, really
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Speaker 3: well and just A couple of just uncharacteristic turnovers for
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Speaker 3: Kevin Jennings. I think SMU is going to be fine.
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Speaker 3: I think that's about as good as you're going to
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Speaker 3: see Florida State. And here's what's amazing. Florida State-Louisville, what
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Speaker 3: should be the better program?
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Speaker 2: Oh, it should be Florida State.
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Speaker 3: But you just look at the quarterback situations for right now.
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Speaker 3: If you go to Jeff Brom, he goes from Jack
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Speaker 3: Plummer to Miller Moss to.
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Speaker 2: Keenholz? No, excuse me.
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Speaker 3: Jack Plummer, Tyler Shuck, Miller Moss, Keenholz. He gets better
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Speaker 3: as he goes. Jordan Travis, DJ, Thomas Castellanos, and Ashton Davis.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand what's going on. And you're coaching for
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Speaker 2: your job.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, perhaps Norvell just can't evaluate quarterbacks. I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: a possibility. Maybe he just doesn't know what a good
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Speaker 1: quarterback is. And you would think if you coached long enough,
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Speaker 1: you would know that, or you have people around you
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Speaker 1: that know that. I don't think anybody believes you can
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Speaker 1: win any more the way college football or the NFL
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Speaker 1: is played with C-plus quarterbacks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't. You certainly can't.
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Speaker 1: And look, Kevin Jennings is A-plus on some plays. Now,
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Speaker 1: he's got to be maddening as your quarterback because those
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Speaker 1: interceptions he threw were just inexcusable. I mean, you cannot
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Speaker 1: throw interceptions in the red zone like that. But, boy,
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Speaker 1: when he's on his game, I mean, that guy's an A-plus.
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Speaker 1: When he's not throwing interceptions at bad times, he.
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Speaker 2: Does a lot of good stuff. What was their– Total
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Speaker 2: passing yards. Hang on, I'll pull it up. It was 400. Yeah, 430.
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Speaker 2: It was a career high for him. They had 528
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Speaker 2: yards of offense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Florida State and their secondary
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Speaker 3: is awful. But, you know, just when you thought Florida
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Speaker 3: State had them in a bad situation, a third long,
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Speaker 3: you know, Jennings would extend the play a little bit,
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Speaker 3: and then he would find somebody running around. So, you know,
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Speaker 3: Jennings can play really good backyard football too, but the
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Speaker 3: guy's got so much freaking experience.
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Speaker 2: He does. He does.
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Speaker 1: More experience than to throw those interceptions.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: And listen, other than the actual game itself, when you
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Speaker 1: have been outspoken– about i mean everybody has labeled florida
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Speaker 1: state unfortunately and i don't believe it's totally true but
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Speaker 1: as a program it.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't have um.
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Speaker 1: They're broke they don't have enough money yeah that's what
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Speaker 1: people say that's it's unfortunate but that's that's sort of
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Speaker 1: the reputation right now in this era of money that
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Speaker 1: florida state doesn't have it they need more of it
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Speaker 1: or whatever to have a light issue that is not
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Speaker 1: of their doing i mean it's a new stadium and
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Speaker 1: everything but something happened outside the stadium.
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Speaker 2: It's Butch League, though. It would never happen in an
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Speaker 2: SEC stadium. Well, you don't know that because was it
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Speaker 2: true or may have been AI? How do you not
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Speaker 2: have a generator? Was there a car accident that knocked
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Speaker 2: out something?
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Is it a transformer issue? Crap if I know.
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Speaker 2: But don't you have generators?
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Speaker 1: Well, you'd have to have a lot of them. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how many generators you would need to.
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Speaker 2: Power a whole stadium. You play eight games a year
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Speaker 2: in a billion dollar industry. It's not a hospital.
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Speaker 3: It's not like, but we need generators just in case
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Speaker 3: there's a situation like that.
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Speaker 1: I was thinking, LT, because Tallahassee is the state capital
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Speaker 1: of Florida, correct?
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Speaker 2: That is correct, yes. I mean, there's the state The
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Speaker 2: National Guard is somewhere close by. Can't we row? The
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Speaker 2: only game going. Nobody's working. We got 90 minutes. It's
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Speaker 2: a holiday. I mean, really.
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Speaker 3: And that damn thing, by the way, going off at 8.15.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about you guys. My eyes
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Speaker 3: were so heavy.
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Speaker 1: A fight of my life to see the end of that.
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Speaker 1: I may have lost a couple of drives in the
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Speaker 1: third quarter.
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Speaker 2: But I won't back up. Oh, and it's thrown my
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Speaker 2: complete day off. That was when Dave Pasch would get excited.
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Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, what did I miss?
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Speaker 6: Nothing.
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Speaker 2: Another turn. But I kept thinking during that whole thing.
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Speaker 2: I was like, surely.
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Speaker 1: Other Taylor, I can't remember her name right now.
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Speaker 2: Davis? Taylor Davis, is that it? Taylor McGregor. Taylor McGregor,
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Speaker 2: Taylor McGregor. Did a fantastic job.
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Speaker 1: I thought she was going to hop on right now
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Speaker 1: and like, hey, Big 12 Commissioner Jim Phillips has just
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Speaker 1: told me that Ron DeSantis... down the street has sent
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Speaker 1: over the Florida National Guard.
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Speaker 2: If it was LSU, it would have happened. Generators. Oh,
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Speaker 2: the governor would have. I believe if it was Tuscaloosa
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Speaker 2: or Auburn, we would have had generators there. It would
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Speaker 2: have never gone down.
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Speaker 3: I feel really good, and I could be completely wrong
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Speaker 3: on this, that they are well-equipped with generators.
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Speaker 2: And if something like this happens, boom, it's right back on.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think in hindsight right now, and this is
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Speaker 1: pure hindsight, I think every big school in America is
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Speaker 1: probably asking the question of, Today, if the same thing
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Speaker 1: happens to us, do we have a plan that all
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Speaker 1: the necessities, we get stadium lights on, headsets work, iPads
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Speaker 1: on the sideline work. We've got to have a plan
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Speaker 1: so we can pull the game off now. Keep in mind,
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Speaker 1: it's a gathering of 60,000 plus people, depending on where
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Speaker 1: you are when you're hosting these games. There's some safety
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Speaker 1: issues involved, too. I mean, I know they had their
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Speaker 1: three emergency lights on. It was amazing to me.
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Speaker 2: That was still no good. It was amazing to me.
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Speaker 1: ESPN never lost their power, though, Lance.
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Speaker 2: They did have a generator. They had lights. I don't
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Speaker 2: know which Taylor it was that reported. It might have
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Speaker 2: been Tannenbaum. It might have been McGregor. But early on,
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Speaker 2: they talked about possibly playing it on Tuesday. Yeah, boy.
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Speaker 3: And that's when I put it on a side TV
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Speaker 3: and I threw a movie on. And I was like,
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Speaker 3: what time are they going to possibly play this on Tuesday?
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Speaker 2: And then you saw the countdown. I don't know what
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Speaker 2: they would have done because both teams play Saturday, right? No,
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Speaker 2: Florida State's off this week. And SMU plays UC Davis. Davis, yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm like you. If I was Rhett Lashley, I love
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Speaker 2: the circumstances for Florida State.
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Speaker 3: You kind of get every– you get advantages with weird
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Speaker 3: stuff for the underdog.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Didn't happen, though. They survived it. I did love Jimbo Fisher. Listen,
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Speaker 1: Florida State actually– we play tomorrow. Florida State actually has
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Speaker 1: a bye week. Well, SMU plays UC Davis Saturday, though.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to offend anybody.
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Speaker 1: At UC Davis. I don't want to offend anybody at
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Speaker 1: UC Davis, but. I think they can play on Tuesday
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Speaker 1: and still be okay on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: I still can't believe Jimbo Fisher's on the desk.
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Speaker 1: It was the first time my wife had seen him. And,
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Speaker 1: you know, she's just, you know, she was going to
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Speaker 1: watch the start of the game and we get sucked
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Speaker 1: into this. I don't know why the power outage was fascinating,
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Speaker 1: but it was. And he started talking. She goes, who
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Speaker 1: is that? I go, that's Jim O.
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Speaker 2: Fisher. She was like, how's he on TV? I can't
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Speaker 2: understand a word he's saying. I mean, it is gibberish.
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Speaker 3: It was funny because this is the first, I guess,
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Speaker 3: Florida State game that Maddie has watched in its entirety.
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Speaker 3: And she's like, do they have another cheer? Like, does
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Speaker 3: the band play that the entire time? And I'm like,
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Speaker 3: it really is torture. You understand when they're really good
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Speaker 3: doing it.
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Speaker 6: That's right.
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Speaker 3: But when you're really bad in averaging, you do it nonstop.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, holy hell. And it would be exhausting being
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Speaker 3: a fan of Florida State having to do that for nothing.
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Speaker 1: But just think, you're a freshman, sophomore, junior now at
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Speaker 1: Florida State. So you were not there for the 13-0 year.
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Speaker 1: So you're sitting there. You watched as that game went on.
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Speaker 1: They showed the student section. And only about 25% participation
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Speaker 1: in the student section.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you had a lot of people. Some were like, hey,
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Speaker 2: wear your ass. You get a tennis elbow for that
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Speaker 2: damn thing. Some were not doing anything. Well, you got
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Speaker 2: to mix it up. When SMU has the ball, you
15:08
Speaker 2: want to go left. Yeah, right. Two-handed. All right. Real quick,
15:12
Speaker 2: can I ask a question? If you were– And by
15:15
Speaker 2: the way, the crowd was pathetic. Yeah, it was.
15:17
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a bit of a testament.
15:18
Speaker 1: Would you have waited 90 minutes?
15:20
Speaker 3: If I'm a Florida State fan, yeah. Would you– I mean,
15:23
Speaker 3: to drive there and then pack it up and leave?
15:25
Speaker 1: If you are a Clemson fan, do you watch that
15:28
Speaker 1: game and worry this could be us? That's one thing
15:31
Speaker 1: I thought of last night. Like, if I'm a Clemson fan,
15:33
Speaker 1: I watch this, like, are we about to be Florida State? Like,
15:34
Speaker 1: if we get rid of Dabo or if we keep Dabo?
15:37
Speaker 3: I would say if you keep Dabo. Yeah, I don't
15:39
Speaker 3: know if it matters. I don't know where Clemson is
15:42
Speaker 3: in the pack anymore. And I only use Clemson, but,
15:43
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the fear of every program, right? Like,
15:46
Speaker 3: you could always become Florida State. Florida State didn't think
15:48
Speaker 3: that's where they were headed, but that's where they've ended up.
15:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, but see, nowadays, is it coaching or is it
15:54
Speaker 1: the ability to tap into money? I mean, it appears
15:58
Speaker 1: to be both at Florida State.
15:59
Speaker 5: Yeah.
16:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they've got a problem with both. Yeah,
16:02
Speaker 2: I think they've got an issue at both spots.
16:04
Speaker 3: It's knee-jerk, and we are so overreacting to week one.
16:08
Speaker 3: But just watching, there are only three teams that can
16:11
Speaker 3: win the ACC.
16:13
Speaker 2: Let me guess. Miami? Yes.
16:16
Speaker 3: Louisville.
16:16
Speaker 2: Yes. And then you're going to throw Virginia. You wouldn't
16:19
Speaker 2: put SMU in there? I would not. I'm not going
16:21
Speaker 2: to sell SMU yet. I think we forget. Virginia goes to.
16:25
Speaker 3: Dallas, which is going to be a really interesting game. But, Brown,
16:27
Speaker 3: I just think Virginia is going to be able to
16:28
Speaker 3: run it on most teams. You saw SMU, the inability
16:31
Speaker 3: to stop the run last night. I don't think they
16:33
Speaker 3: can run it consistently. If they can't run it consistently–
16:36
Speaker 3: Then you put all the pressure on Kevin Jennings. A
16:38
Speaker 3: ton of experience, but you saw some of the bad decisions.
16:41
Speaker 2: I'm not going to eliminate.
16:42
Speaker 1: I'm not eliminating SMU yet. I'm not eliminating Virginia. And
16:46
Speaker 1: I'm not going to eliminate Pitt yet.
16:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think I had Pitt in my top 25.
16:51
Speaker 2: Pitt's good.
16:52
Speaker 1: Here's all I would say about SMU is I think
16:55
Speaker 1: we forget that that was their first game. Because it's
16:58
Speaker 1: so late in week one, those were a lot of
17:01
Speaker 1: first game mistakes. Those were mistakes that you make when
17:03
Speaker 1: you're out of your routine, maybe when you don't have
17:06
Speaker 1: all the resources you normally have on the sidelines, I'm
17:08
Speaker 1: willing to forgive some of their mistakes. I would like
17:10
Speaker 1: to see SMU, not against UC Davis, but against whoever
17:13
Speaker 1: they play after that. Before I say, I don't think
17:15
Speaker 1: they can win the ACC.
17:16
Speaker 2: But hats off to Rhett Lashley.
17:18
Speaker 1: That's at Louisville, by the way, in two weeks. That's
17:21
Speaker 1: a good we'll know, right? Great game coming up. Hats
17:23
Speaker 1: off to Rhett Lashley and the SMU folks. Servants heart there.
17:26
Speaker 1: They rolled out there and they were like, oh yeah, sure.
17:30
Speaker 1: We'll play this with no headsets. We haven't practiced that
17:32
Speaker 1: way in two years, but we'll go no headsets and
17:35
Speaker 1: A few lights, that's okay.
17:37
Speaker 2: We'll play the game.
17:38
Speaker 1: One time Jennings was running to the sidelines every play,
17:40
Speaker 1: like high school.
17:41
Speaker 2: That's right.
17:41
Speaker 1: Every play, running to the sideline to get the play
17:43
Speaker 1: call from Lashley.
17:45
Speaker 5: Yeah.
17:46
Speaker 2: I love it. I know.
17:47
Speaker 1: It's kind of a throwback. I'm not that kind of
17:49
Speaker 1: a heart. I'd have been making a scene. I'd be like, no,
17:51
Speaker 1: we're not doing it. No, are you kidding me? And
17:54
Speaker 1: you're going to still pay us for coming.
17:55
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got a.
17:56
Speaker 3: Couple of texts like, should they be playing this game?
17:58
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, it's, you know, everything's equal.
18:01
Speaker 3: I mean, like everybody's playing with hands tied behind their back, so.
18:05
Speaker 1: It may be a testament of what Lashley thought of
18:07
Speaker 1: Florida State, by the way. 27-24, SMU wins it. When
18:10
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Speaker 2: How about this? We are closer to 24. 2041 than
19:51
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Speaker 1: We're closer to 2041 than we started the next round
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20:04
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20:07
Speaker 2: I think we are pro-prenups. Is that right on the show?
20:10
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I'm pro-prenup, no. You're not? Are you?
20:14
Speaker 3: I mean, look, every circumstance is different, but I think
20:18
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20:21
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20:21
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20:26
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20:31
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20:35
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20:39
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20:40
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20:46
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20:50
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20:56
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21:00
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21:03
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Speaker 1: I've never really considered it. I mean, offhand, I would
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Speaker 1: the hat he's wearing. It's a good looking hat. The
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Speaker 1: next round had from Jeff Collins, former head coach, Georgia Tech,
23:10
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Oh, you're going to take it off. Defensive coordinator.
23:13
Speaker 2: Oh, you're showing off the hair. I don't like that, man.
23:15
Speaker 2: I like that. I'll take mine off too. Look at
23:18
Speaker 2: this head. Defensive coordinator throughout the SEC. What is up, coach?
23:21
Speaker 2: How are you?
23:22
Speaker 6: Hey, doing great, man. Hey, my hair, since I stopped
23:24
Speaker 6: being a head coach and an SEC coordinator, it grew back, bro.
23:31
Speaker 2: That's good. That's good.
23:33
Speaker 1: Hey, would you have played that game last night if
23:35
Speaker 1: you were Rhett Lashley and you were coaching and they
23:38
Speaker 1: told you no headsets, no communications?
23:40
Speaker 2: Would you have played it?
23:42
Speaker 6: Yeah, put the ball down, man. We traveled all that
23:44
Speaker 6: way from Dallas, Texas. Put the ball down and let's play.
23:47
Speaker 6: Go old school.
23:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
23:49
Speaker 1: What– I mean– From a coaching standpoint, I'm sure you
23:53
Speaker 1: watched it as a former coach and you're like, it's
23:56
Speaker 1: complete anxiety for you because you guys like to be
24:00
Speaker 1: prepared for absolutely everything. And that was really something you
24:03
Speaker 1: could never prepare for. Dunaway has talked about, I respect
24:07
Speaker 1: the way Rhett Lashley specifically, he said it before the game.
24:11
Speaker 2: He said, we knew we.
24:12
Speaker 1: Had an hour and a half battery on our headsets
24:14
Speaker 1: and we were going to lose them. But, you know,
24:16
Speaker 1: you just figure it out. I mean, you guys prepare
24:18
Speaker 1: for everything. What is it like as a head coach
24:20
Speaker 1: when you get a curveball you could have never prepared for?
24:22
Speaker 2: Right.
24:23
Speaker 6: Well, I think having Kevin Jennings helps, too.
24:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree.
24:26
Speaker 6: You've got that dude that can operate. But I think
24:29
Speaker 6: some of the things, and this is going to be
24:31
Speaker 6: a hot take that I don't know that, you know,
24:33
Speaker 6: I'm ready to talk too much about. But this whole
24:36
Speaker 6: iPad on the sideline and iPad up in the press box,
24:41
Speaker 6: I don't know that I'm all for it, right? Having communication,
24:46
Speaker 6: all those things are good. Give me the personnel. Give
24:49
Speaker 6: me the down distance. I can see the formation. I
24:52
Speaker 6: can call a game and light you up. I don't
24:54
Speaker 6: need all of that extra stuff, and I think a
24:57
Speaker 6: lot of the people, you know, Rhett's an old school
25:00
Speaker 6: Arkansas dude. He doesn't need all that stuff. Just put
25:04
Speaker 6: the ball down and play.
25:06
Speaker 3: So, speaking of your hair, let's just go back to
25:09
Speaker 3: Ann Arbor on Saturday night. Like, you know, Lance Taylor
25:14
Speaker 3: in Western Michigan, they handle this thing so well. But boy,
25:18
Speaker 3: I just and you do have there is a contingency
25:21
Speaker 3: out there that is like, hey, the Big Ten, they
25:24
Speaker 3: were transparent. They show there was one second left. The
25:27
Speaker 3: three of us, we don't believe it. We think they
25:29
Speaker 3: got jobbed. But as a former coach, just putting yourself
25:32
Speaker 3: in that situation, you grind all summer, you go in
25:36
Speaker 3: there as a four-touchdown underdog, and you've got the game won,
25:39
Speaker 3: and they put another play back on.
25:41
Speaker 2: How do you handle that?
25:43
Speaker 6: So I would not have been able to handle it
25:45
Speaker 6: the way Lance did. Lance is one of my best friends.
25:47
Speaker 6: We were together in Alabama with Nick Saban in 2007,
25:51
Speaker 6: and I would not have been able to do what
25:54
Speaker 6: he did. Now, looking at it from that lens– what
25:57
Speaker 6: he's got to do with his team, repeat his match champions.
26:00
Speaker 6: They won it last year. How do I handle this
26:03
Speaker 6: moment to make sure that that happens again? Lance Taylor
26:06
Speaker 6: handled it beautifully. Now, I was watching the game. I'm
26:11
Speaker 6: getting tired. I'm ready to shut it down and go
26:12
Speaker 6: to bed. I'm semi-retired. I'm old. So I'm watching. They
26:16
Speaker 6: forced me to stay up because it was a close game.
26:19
Speaker 6: It was last play. I have my tweet ready. I
26:24
Speaker 6: have my text to Lance Taylor ready on my phone. Preloaded.
26:28
Speaker 6: They knocked the pass down. No, no. I post the tweet. Congrats, Lance. Oh,
26:34
Speaker 6: big win. Then I text Lance.
26:38
Speaker 5: Oh, no.
26:38
Speaker 6: Congrats. So proud of you. You're the fucking, you're the,
26:42
Speaker 6: excuse me. You're the fucking man.
26:44
Speaker 4: Right.
26:45
Speaker 6: So I do both of those things. Well, you guys,
26:47
Speaker 6: you guys know Patrick Suddus, longtime great general manager and,
26:52
Speaker 6: I texted, I forwarded Pat my tweet, right? Because me, him,
26:56
Speaker 6: and Lance were the recruiting staff at Alabama in 07.
26:59
Speaker 6: And then I put my phone down to shut it down.
27:02
Speaker 6: Patrick Suttis texted me two minutes later, bro, they lost.
27:09
Speaker 6: And so I'm like, how did they lose? I just
27:11
Speaker 6: watched them win the football game. How did they lose?
27:14
Speaker 6: And then I go in all the aftermath and drama,
27:17
Speaker 6: and then social media explodes, rightfully so. I chime in
27:22
Speaker 6: because Lance is my boy and right is right and
27:25
Speaker 6: wrong is wrong. So I chimed in and posted what
27:29
Speaker 6: my final score was, was 12 to 7. Yeah. And
27:33
Speaker 6: I posted that and it went, you know, it had
27:36
Speaker 6: a bunch of whatever's. But I think Lance handled it beautifully.
27:41
Speaker 2: Wow. Has he responded to the text yet?
27:44
Speaker 6: He has. And that's between he and I. Okay.
27:48
Speaker 2: I just wondered.
27:50
Speaker 6: And then I did a, so I've got a new
27:52
Speaker 6: show that I've been doing and I appreciate you guys.
27:54
Speaker 6: You guys have been with me on this journey and
27:56
Speaker 6: I thank you so much. But I started, they had
27:59
Speaker 6: me start a show, the Coach Collins show. And so
28:03
Speaker 6: I went on a rant about Lance Taylor and, That
28:07
Speaker 6: had some traction too, but he's the best. I still
28:13
Speaker 6: trust my eyes. I saw zero seconds.
28:18
Speaker 1: He's at Western Michigan right now, but if you're an
28:20
Speaker 1: AD in the Big Ten or the SEC, do you
28:26
Speaker 1: have his phone number in your upper right-hand drawer in
28:28
Speaker 1: case you have to make a move?
28:30
Speaker 6: A million percent. This is not why Lance did it,
28:34
Speaker 6: but I think If you're somebody that is entrusting someone
28:39
Speaker 6: to run your football program, to be the face of
28:42
Speaker 6: your university, you want to make sure that that person,
28:45
Speaker 6: when there is a crisis, when there is something that
28:48
Speaker 6: just goes off the rails, that they're going to have
28:51
Speaker 6: a steady hand, they're going to have character, they're going
28:54
Speaker 6: to have composure. That five-minute press conference after the game
28:59
Speaker 6: tells you everything you need to know about Lance Taylor.
29:02
Speaker 6: You can watch his team play. Smart football, sound football, physical, competitive,
29:09
Speaker 6: all of those things are great. But you can't tell
29:12
Speaker 6: the composure and character of a man until they're thrust
29:15
Speaker 6: into something that Lance got thrust into. And I think
29:19
Speaker 6: he handled it amazingly. So there's going to be a
29:22
Speaker 6: ton of ADs that, you know, come calling.
29:26
Speaker 1: As you watch that game, Michigan, they are quite limited
29:30
Speaker 1: on offense, Coach. And I know You probably haven't spent
29:33
Speaker 1: a ton of time breaking down their tape, but just
29:36
Speaker 1: your eyes watching that game, does that look like an
29:39
Speaker 1: offense that can get turned around.
29:41
Speaker 6: So part of me is watching it and i'm fired
29:44
Speaker 6: up for lance yeah right because they had a great
29:46
Speaker 6: defense last year they bring in a new dc what's
29:48
Speaker 6: it going to look like they didn't miss a beat
29:51
Speaker 6: and so part of me and my my lens of
29:54
Speaker 6: it i'm happy for lance they play great defense But
29:57
Speaker 6: if you flip it on the other side, should a
30:00
Speaker 6: Big Ten, should what be a top 15 team, supposedly
30:04
Speaker 6: they were, struggle against a MAAC opponent, even though they
30:09
Speaker 6: were the MAAC champs? They probably shouldn't, but they did.
30:12
Speaker 6: So it was a little bit of Western Michigan, yes.
30:15
Speaker 6: Was it a lot of, you know, Michigan? Probably the
30:19
Speaker 6: same is true.
30:20
Speaker 3: You know, we always overreact to week one. It's hard
30:23
Speaker 3: not to overreact to what LSU did to Clemson.
30:27
Speaker 2: I mean, that was complete annihilation. And it's hard to look.
30:32
Speaker 3: These aren't like opponents when Georgia plays Tennessee State and
30:35
Speaker 3: LSU plays Clemson. I would still say Georgia is the
30:39
Speaker 3: better team than LSU right now.
30:41
Speaker 2: I know it's one weekend. Again, completely different opponents. Am
30:45
Speaker 2: I way off on that?
30:46
Speaker 6: No, I think LSU is legit. I mean, they're going
30:51
Speaker 6: to be a problem. And then in Baton Rouge, we
30:54
Speaker 6: all have been there, LSU at night. We've all coached there,
30:57
Speaker 6: been to games. It's a wild scene. Well, what Lane
31:01
Speaker 6: Kiffin has done is he's pouring gasoline on that entire fire.
31:05
Speaker 6: And that thing, with all the celebrities, all the things
31:09
Speaker 6: that were surrounding the narrative surrounding the game and the hype,
31:14
Speaker 6: his players just went out there and put the ball
31:17
Speaker 6: down and played great football. And Blake Baker coached a
31:21
Speaker 6: heck of a game. Charlie Weiss Jr. coached a heck
31:23
Speaker 6: of a game. But I think the incredible talent that
31:27
Speaker 6: LSU has, but then you factor in the mojo piece,
31:30
Speaker 6: that's real. And they've got the mojo piece right now
31:35
Speaker 6: as well, leading into what, they go to Oxford in
31:38
Speaker 6: two weeks, two weekends?
31:39
Speaker 5: Yep.
31:40
Speaker 6: That's going to be... If they pay-per-viewed that, they'd break
31:44
Speaker 6: the bank. Yes, yes.
31:46
Speaker 1: You need cameras outside on the night before the game
31:50
Speaker 1: and after the game, too, on that pay-per-view. That's the
31:52
Speaker 1: camera shots I want to see what goes on outside.
31:55
Speaker 1: Jeff Collins is with us. Coach, I want to ask
31:57
Speaker 1: you about Georgia because they opened with one of those
32:00
Speaker 1: games at 66-3, so nobody's talking about them. But when
32:04
Speaker 1: you look at this Georgia team, This seems to be
32:07
Speaker 1: built like one of Kirby's championship-like team to my eyes,
32:11
Speaker 1: from a coach's eye. When you look at Georgia, what
32:14
Speaker 1: do they look like?
32:17
Speaker 6: I did a road trip during preseason camp. I went
32:19
Speaker 6: to about 30 camps in three weeks. I was on
32:22
Speaker 6: social media about it and all that other stuff. I
32:24
Speaker 6: went to Athens, Georgia. I walk into the Buttsmere building
32:28
Speaker 6: where the football offices are. Kirby grabs me. He goes, Jeff,
32:32
Speaker 6: I'm glad you're here, but I don't need this shit
32:35
Speaker 6: on social media that you're here today. I said, Kirby,
32:39
Speaker 6: I said, I'm good, bro. We're good. I just want
32:41
Speaker 6: to watch some ball, talk some ball. So I go
32:44
Speaker 6: out to practice and I mean, I didn't see a
32:46
Speaker 6: weakness at any position by the players. Like they're, they're
32:52
Speaker 6: strong and they're deep at every single position. But then
32:55
Speaker 6: the practice was just an old school Nick Saban, Kirby smart,
33:01
Speaker 6: all ball, There was violence. There was competitiveness. There was toughness.
33:07
Speaker 6: And I saw 30 practices. That was the most physically
33:11
Speaker 6: demanding practice that I'd been to. I mean, the pads
33:14
Speaker 6: were popping. And I just think the talent that they have,
33:19
Speaker 6: the mentality that Kirby always builds, and I think Bobo,
33:24
Speaker 6: I think he's gotten whatever reputation from the fan base
33:28
Speaker 6: or whatever, a certain type of way. Mike Bobo can
33:32
Speaker 6: call some college football plays, and the moment's never too
33:35
Speaker 6: big for him. And then we've seen the development of
33:37
Speaker 6: Glenn Schumann, obviously with the help of Will, but Glenn
33:41
Speaker 6: Schumann's turned into one of the top five play callers
33:44
Speaker 6: in the game too. So it's fun to watch.
33:48
Speaker 1: Coach Jeff Collins is with us. That's where you find
33:50
Speaker 1: his YouTube channel where he's doing some of these interviews
33:52
Speaker 1: and breaking down what he sees. His YouTube channel is
33:55
Speaker 1: Coach Jeff Collins, and you can follow him on social
33:57
Speaker 1: media at Coach Collins. So very easy to find him there,
34:00
Speaker 1: and we recommend that you do so. From what you've
34:03
Speaker 1: watched with Alabama, I don't know how much of the
34:05
Speaker 1: film you got to break down on Alabama, but specifically
34:09
Speaker 1: the side of the ball you coached as an assistant defense.
34:11
Speaker 1: That was a dominant defensive performance by Alabama. What stood
34:15
Speaker 1: out to you about their performance?
34:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, so, you know, Kevon Coleman, who coaches the nickels
34:20
Speaker 6: and the safeties, Jason Jones, one of my dear friends,
34:23
Speaker 6: we were together at UNC, and Kane Womack. I think
34:26
Speaker 6: I saw a lot of wrinkles that they haven't had
34:30
Speaker 6: maybe in the past. There was a lot more match
34:33
Speaker 6: coverage that Kane used in the East Carolina game. And
34:37
Speaker 6: I'm sure in that game, you know, early on, Kane
34:40
Speaker 6: was ready to show everything. But as that game went on,
34:44
Speaker 6: Kane didn't have to empty the clip and just show
34:47
Speaker 6: all of the new wrinkles that he's come up with
34:50
Speaker 6: over the offseason. But I saw a lot more match coverage.
34:54
Speaker 6: He's uber creative. There's multiple fronts. They go from even.
34:57
Speaker 6: They go for odd. There's pressures coming from everywhere with
35:01
Speaker 6: cover three behind it, with man behind it, with traps
35:04
Speaker 6: and tampas. I don't know how nerdy you want me
35:07
Speaker 6: to be about that stuff, but... The match coverage stuff
35:13
Speaker 6: I saw, and I don't know if that's from his
35:15
Speaker 6: meetings with Coach Saban or an influence or just being
35:18
Speaker 6: more comfortable with who they have on the roster now.
35:21
Speaker 6: The DBs. So I go to practice in Tuscaloosa and
35:25
Speaker 6: went to Dreamland Barbecue and Taco Casa. I had all
35:28
Speaker 6: the spots. I went to Ramma Jamma's for breakfast. Anyway.
35:33
Speaker 6: So I go out to practice, and I'd been in
35:36
Speaker 6: the meeting room with the DBs. They were impressive. But
35:39
Speaker 6: when they got on the grass and those Alabama DBs, Coach,
35:44
Speaker 6: I think they go 6'4 1⁄2, 6'5, across the board.
35:48
Speaker 6: And I went to every place in the country. I
35:50
Speaker 6: didn't go to Notre Dame, but I think Alabama and
35:53
Speaker 6: Notre Dame had the best DBs in college football. And
35:57
Speaker 6: I know personally how well they're coached, so it's just
36:00
Speaker 6: going to be exciting to see them sprinkling in a
36:04
Speaker 6: lot more match coverage, a lot more man, along with
36:08
Speaker 6: all the cool creative stuff that Kane's always known for.
36:11
Speaker 6: It's going to be fun to watch.
36:13
Speaker 3: I think everybody is a fan of John Sumrall. And
36:15
Speaker 3: the offense, 66 points.
36:17
Speaker 2: Coach! You know, it was.
36:20
Speaker 3: Basically over, Jeff, before it started, 17-0. But Florida Atlantic,
36:24
Speaker 3: I think, is improved this year.
36:27
Speaker 5: Yeah.
36:27
Speaker 3: But is there a concern, 11-22 on third down, almost
36:31
Speaker 3: 400 total yards for the Owls?
36:33
Speaker 2: I mean, what did you see overall, 60.
36:35
Speaker 3: Minutes, just one snapshot of the first week for the
36:38
Speaker 3: Florida Gators under John Sumrall?
36:40
Speaker 6: Let me first say this. John Sumrall is a ball coach.
36:46
Speaker 6: I went to Florida Gators practice. Bro, I was impressed.
36:54
Speaker 6: I don't get impressed too much too often. I was
36:56
Speaker 6: impressed with that dude and how he ran a college
36:59
Speaker 6: football practice. And they don't let a lot of people in.
37:02
Speaker 6: Everybody asked to come in. They're like, no, camp's closed.
37:05
Speaker 6: You can't come. Camp's closed. You can't come. I was
37:08
Speaker 6: cool with it. And then I reached out to Scott Strickland,
37:11
Speaker 6: the AD, and I'm like, bro, I'm going to come through.
37:13
Speaker 6: I'm going to give you a hug. And he was like,
37:15
Speaker 6: let's go out to practice. So we called Summerall, and
37:17
Speaker 6: he's like, can Jeff come to practice? And John was like,
37:19
Speaker 6: hell yeah. Gave me a huge bag of swag. But
37:23
Speaker 6: the way he runs a practice was awesome. Discipline, detailed.
37:29
Speaker 6: There wasn't a lot of wasted time. It was physical,
37:31
Speaker 6: all those things. But at the end.
37:35
Speaker 6: When you bring the team up, normally there's a rah-rah
37:39
Speaker 6: speech or there's going to be something sexy for social
37:41
Speaker 6: media during preseason camp. Coach, John Summerall, at the end
37:46
Speaker 6: of it, ripped them for about three minutes and then
37:50
Speaker 6: just walked off the field. This is the greatest thing
37:54
Speaker 6: I've ever seen, right? Well, then you watch the game
37:56
Speaker 6: and his presser, he didn't candy coat anything. You know,
38:01
Speaker 6: he called out the defense, things they got to get
38:04
Speaker 6: better at. He called out entitlement, right? Some guys think
38:07
Speaker 6: that they're better than they are. He just kept it
38:09
Speaker 6: 100 with them and was real. Here is my assessment.
38:13
Speaker 6: I'm not going to candy coat it for social media.
38:15
Speaker 6: I'm not going to try to put some cool spin
38:18
Speaker 6: narrative out I'm just going to tell it like it is.
38:22
Speaker 6: And I thought it was a breath of fresh air
38:25
Speaker 6: just listening to him talk about his team, being honest,
38:29
Speaker 6: being direct, not being mean-spirited. Like even when he was
38:32
Speaker 6: getting after the team, you know, post-practice, it wasn't mean-spirited.
38:37
Speaker 6: It was just like, hey, there's a standard around here
38:40
Speaker 6: that we've got to live up to. And it was
38:43
Speaker 6: impressive to see and, you know, watch him perform. And
38:47
Speaker 6: I'll tell you, Buster Faulkner– that offensive coordinator, that dude
38:51
Speaker 6: can coach football. I've studied a bunch of his stuff
38:54
Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks, and he is a complete pain.
38:58
Speaker 6: The things that he does, that was my Rockdale County education.
39:04
Speaker 6: The things that he does have not been done in
39:08
Speaker 6: that league. The SEC's got tremendous coaches and all these
39:13
Speaker 6: great X's and O's, great players. But the difference in
39:16
Speaker 6: what Buster Faulkner does relative to everybody else in the league,
39:21
Speaker 6: it's going to be a learning curve for some of
39:23
Speaker 6: these great defensive coaches to deal with.
39:26
Speaker 1: For those that don't know, Jeff, as he's mentioned early
39:28
Speaker 1: in the interview, was part of the staff that brought
39:32
Speaker 1: in Mark Ingram, Julio Jones, that started the dynasty in Tuscaloosa.
39:38
Speaker 1: Sark said yesterday, Jeremiah Smith reminds him of Julio Jones
39:43
Speaker 1: as Texas and Ohio State gets ready to play. When
39:46
Speaker 1: you look at Jeremiah Smith knowing Julio Jones and Is
39:49
Speaker 1: that a fair comp or is that an insult to Julio?
39:52
Speaker 6: No, I think it's an amazing comp. And I think
39:55
Speaker 6: Ryan Day is lucky there's not a one-and-done rule in
39:58
Speaker 6: college football.
39:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
39:59
Speaker 6: Right? Because that dude can go play on Sundays today.
40:04
Speaker 6: You watch his plays that he made the other day
40:05
Speaker 6: and all throughout the last season. But the thing that
40:08
Speaker 6: stands out to me about that kid is it appears–
40:13
Speaker 6: Just the work ethic, the hunger, the humbleness, those are
40:17
Speaker 6: qualities that Julio had too. Julio came to Alabama, A,
40:22
Speaker 6: because it's a great place, B, because Nick Saban's a
40:25
Speaker 6: great coach, but C, because of Kurt Cignetti. Kurt Cignetti's
40:29
Speaker 6: not a sexy, flashy, dynamic recruiter. Kurt Cignetti is all
40:34
Speaker 6: about development, fundamentals, technique, learning the playbook, long-term plan for
40:39
Speaker 6: your life. That's what Julio chose. It feels like that
40:43
Speaker 6: kid that plays for the, what are they, Crimson and Gray?
40:46
Speaker 2: Yep.
40:47
Speaker 6: Is built that same way from a mentality standpoint. Physically,
40:50
Speaker 6: he's a freak, right? Talented. But the way he's built
40:53
Speaker 6: and the way he plays, that's the part that reminds
40:57
Speaker 6: me of Julio the most.
40:59
Speaker 3: So you did tell us that LSU is going to
41:01
Speaker 3: be a problem. I think we all agree with that.
41:03
Speaker 3: On the other side, though, Clemson, zero sacks, two tackles
41:06
Speaker 3: for losses, one of 13 on third downs, eight first downs,
41:10
Speaker 3: 145 total yards.
41:11
Speaker 2: Complete embarrassment. Where are we right now on Clemson football?
41:15
Speaker 6: Yeah, and here's the thing. I've got to get a
41:20
Speaker 6: feel for this because I'm a coach, and I love
41:23
Speaker 6: those guys on the Clemson football staff, Dabo. I'm close
41:26
Speaker 6: friends with almost everybody on the staff. So I've got
41:29
Speaker 6: to figure out a way to be critical of my boys,
41:33
Speaker 6: but never be demeaning. But I want to give credit
41:36
Speaker 6: to Blake Baker at LSU. They did a tremendous job, right?
41:39
Speaker 6: But I do think there's some things that they're going
41:43
Speaker 6: to look at right now and just be like, how
41:45
Speaker 6: can we assemble this, reevaluate what we're doing right now
41:51
Speaker 6: in a short time frame and to play some better
41:54
Speaker 6: football going down the stretch.
41:57
Speaker 2: That was very diplomatic. That was good. That was really good.
42:01
Speaker 6: I'll get used to it, but I have a hard
42:03
Speaker 6: time being negative about my boys.
42:05
Speaker 2: I got you.
42:06
Speaker 1: I don't want you to get too used to it.
42:07
Speaker 1: I want you to get back into coaching. I liked
42:10
Speaker 1: your ass when you were bald.
42:11
Speaker 6: I appreciate that.
42:13
Speaker 1: All right, at Coach Collins on social media. On YouTube,
42:17
Speaker 1: his channel is at Coach Jeff Collins. At Coach Jeff Collins.
42:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, spell it right. It's spelled right. G-E-O-F-F. George Washington
42:25
Speaker 6: said we're going to have two ways to spell this, right?
42:28
Speaker 6: J-E-F-F and G-E-O-F-F. So we're going to make sure we
42:31
Speaker 6: got that right.
42:32
Speaker 1: That was my favorite meme after the Western Michigan game.
42:35
Speaker 1: So we're going to have two clocks. Oh, and they're
42:37
Speaker 1: both going to be in sync?
42:38
Speaker 2: No. No, no. G-E-O-F-F.
42:42
Speaker 1: Coach Jeff Collins is where you find him on YouTube.
42:44
Speaker 2: Coach, thank you. Always good to talk to you.
42:46
Speaker 6: Thank you. Always, fellas. Appreciate y'all.
42:48
Speaker 2: All right, buddy. Take care of that.
42:49
Speaker 1: It's Coach Jeff Collins with us. Breaking down what he
42:52
Speaker 1: saw week one. Fascinating look from a coach's.
42:54
Speaker 2: Point of view there. Yeah, absolutely great stuff.
42:56
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42:59
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43:02
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43:06
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45:13
Speaker 2: All right, off of the Western Michigan-Michigan game.
45:16
Speaker 1: By the way, as this age is, More and more
45:19
Speaker 1: people not believing the video from the Big Ten.
45:22
Speaker 2: I'm surprised the amount that are, though, honestly. Yeah, I am, too.
45:24
Speaker 3: And I know we'll talk to Klatt on Thursday.
45:28
Speaker 2: Thursday, yeah. Yeah, Pereira on. It seemed like Andy Staples
45:31
Speaker 2: kind of sided with. No, Andy did yesterday. I was
45:34
Speaker 2: a little surprised at that. Heather Dinich has sided with him.
45:36
Speaker 2: I saw that on ESPN. Pereira, though, says.
45:39
Speaker 1: The old saying was when we were creating replay, never
45:44
Speaker 1: change what 10 million people see watching on television.
45:47
Speaker 6: Right.
45:48
Speaker 2: If you see it on your television screen, that's your customer. Yeah.
45:53
Speaker 2: And there shouldn't be a clock that isn't seen on television.
45:56
Speaker 3: That's, I mean, like sometimes in a pile, you can't
45:59
Speaker 3: see if a knee is hit before a ball comes loose.
46:01
Speaker 2: I mean, there's certain things like that. We all saw that.
46:04
Speaker 2: We all saw it.
46:05
Speaker 3: And then you wait two hours for, To release a
46:08
Speaker 3: video that is inconclusive itself.
46:10
Speaker 2: We're taking a look here.
46:11
Speaker 1: Josh Pate's about as straight by the book guy there is.
46:15
Speaker 1: Is it Canva? Is that the editing process? He called
46:18
Speaker 1: it to send out a Canva edited video. And then
46:22
Speaker 1: there's people blowing up the digitized numbers over here that
46:25
Speaker 1: wouldn't be used in a clock situation like that, the
46:29
Speaker 1: font and the numbers.
46:30
Speaker 2: I could have filmed that at home with my microwave.
46:35
Speaker 2: And you could have done it quicker, right? Yeah, easily.
46:38
Speaker 3: But I saw our buddy Clay, and I didn't read
46:40
Speaker 3: the article, and I meant to click on it, but
46:43
Speaker 3: it was something to the effect of, did Western Michigan
46:46
Speaker 3: strike a deal with the Big Ten?
46:50
Speaker 2: I mean, I have not thought from that angle. And
46:53
Speaker 2: how would you know that you're going to complete that
46:54
Speaker 2: final pass? You know what I'm saying? No, I mean. Like,
46:58
Speaker 2: what would the deal look like?
47:00
Speaker 1: Well, I think the deal would be, obviously, after the
47:01
Speaker 1: pass is completed, the Big Ten has to go to
47:04
Speaker 1: the MAAC or to Western Michigan or both and say, yeah,
47:10
Speaker 1: we've got no evidence to support this, but we're going
47:12
Speaker 1: to create some. And here's why you're going to be quiet.
47:15
Speaker 2: Yeah. Western Michigan, here's that. Mac, here is that. We
47:20
Speaker 2: talked about it yesterday.
47:21
Speaker 1: I brought it up that the Mac plays so many games,
47:23
Speaker 1: pay games every year. You don't want to destroy that relationship.
47:26
Speaker 2: Big Ten keeps them afloat. That's right. That's right.
47:29
Speaker 1: But a lot of people not buying into that. It's
47:32
Speaker 1: weird to hear a sitting coach who's got the biggest
47:39
Speaker 1: game of the year out of Conference Texas and Ohio
47:41
Speaker 1: State this week. But Sark got into that, and he even,
47:45
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to see a good matchup
47:47
Speaker 1: down the road, Texas-Michigan could be fun because Sark even
47:51
Speaker 1: jumped into the old rushing of the field that surprised him.
47:55
Speaker 1: Listen to Steve Sarkisian.
47:57
Speaker 7: Unfortunate for Western Michigan to play their tails off the
48:01
Speaker 7: way they did and to lose like that. I've lost
48:03
Speaker 7: a game that way before on a Hail Mary, and
48:06
Speaker 7: that definitely sucks. Um, but that's why you play 60 minutes. Um,
48:10
Speaker 7: but again, I don't know the exact ruling on the timing.
48:13
Speaker 7: I know there was a player out of bounds, touch
48:15
Speaker 7: the ball first. Is there one second? Is there not
48:18
Speaker 7: the clock in the stadium, the clock back in the
48:20
Speaker 7: big 10 set? There was a lot of moving parts
48:22
Speaker 7: that I'm, I'm not going to pretend to know everything about. Um,
48:26
Speaker 7: but wow, what a finish, you know? Um, my, my
48:29
Speaker 7: biggest thing was like, I was shocked. They, they stormed
48:32
Speaker 7: the field. That was probably a surprise.
48:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:36
Speaker 2: That's so deadpan, too. That was well-delivered. Everybody was shocked
48:39
Speaker 2: by that. That's so well-delivered. I guess the equivalent would
48:44
Speaker 2: be Texas State.
48:47
Speaker 3: If that would have happened last week, if it were
48:49
Speaker 3: played out the exact same way.
48:50
Speaker 2: If Texas beats Texas State. Do you think Texas fans
48:53
Speaker 2: rushed the field?
48:55
Speaker 1: Some of it is the nature of the victory. It's
48:57
Speaker 1: just such a wild play. But at some point, you've
48:59
Speaker 1: got to stop and say, yeah, that was a wild
49:00
Speaker 1: play against Western Michigan. It was not against Even Michigan State.
49:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, the automatic response. I get that.
49:05
Speaker 3: But wouldn't it be more of relief? Like, oh, my God,
49:08
Speaker 3: what did we just go through? Like, how in the
49:09
Speaker 3: hell did it come down to that? Like, instead of
49:12
Speaker 3: getting off your ass and running onto the field.
49:15
Speaker 2: I mean, this is no shot. Forrester, give me Forrester's microphone.
49:19
Speaker 2: He's our resident audience. Auburn fan. You have to start
49:21
Speaker 2: it with this is no shot.
49:23
Speaker 1: Didn't Auburn rush the field after they beat somebody? It
49:29
Speaker 1: was the last home game or something.
49:31
Speaker 2: Scott, is he thinking of the Texas A & M game?
49:33
Speaker 4: I think he might be thinking of Texas A & M.
49:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one where Cornell coached?
49:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. They did rush the field on that.
49:38
Speaker 4: I think that was just about the lack of wins recently.
49:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was interesting.
49:43
Speaker 4: Just something to celebrate.
49:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a testament to where Auburn football was
49:47
Speaker 2: at that point, Scott, really. I mean.
49:48
Speaker 6: Yeah. I just.
49:50
Speaker 1: The whole rushing of the field or courts, I don't
49:52
Speaker 1: know when you should or shouldn't do it.
49:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not after you beat West Virginia.
49:55
Speaker 3: But, I mean, you can kind of... I mean, I
49:57
Speaker 3: don't know about you guys. I feel like I've got
49:58
Speaker 3: a feel for it on the couch.
49:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I do. Like, they're going to rush here.
50:04
Speaker 2: This is probably the one that surprised me the most.
50:07
Speaker 2: Of all the rushes... Of all time. Of all time.
50:09
Speaker 2: Of all time. This was the one that surprised me
50:11
Speaker 2: the most.
50:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, because now Clemson gets caught in this because they
50:13
Speaker 1: do the whole meet at the paw thing. So they
50:15
Speaker 1: rush the field every game.
50:15
Speaker 2: They don't really rush it. They walk out.
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Speaker 1: They walk out there, but it ends up with everybody
50:19
Speaker 1: on the field. And a lot of people are like,
50:20
Speaker 1: oh my God, they just beat Wake Forest and they're
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Speaker 1: going to rush the field.
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Speaker 2: Well, they do it every game.
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Speaker 1: They walk out and it allows the visiting team, if
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Speaker 1: you lose the game, to also walk out on your field.
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Speaker 4: That's right.
50:29
Speaker 2: And take pictures.
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Speaker 1: Like LSU last year, a lot of LSU fans taking
50:33
Speaker 1: pictures midfield against Clemson.
50:35
Speaker 2: Here's Kyle Whittingham. By the way, isn't there a video
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Speaker 2: of Kyle Whittingham talking to Lance Taylor? No, there was
50:41
Speaker 2: no time on the clock. Yeah, there was no time
50:43
Speaker 2: on the clock. I think he's saying that.
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Speaker 1: And here's Kyle Whittingham at his news conference yesterday. Has
50:49
Speaker 1: aged 100 years since losing to Western Michigan.
50:52
Speaker 2: He does look older.
50:53
Speaker 1: Gets asked how firmly Bryce Underwood is still Michigan's QB1.
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Speaker 6: It's early in the season. People are going to get
51:01
Speaker 6: up in arms.
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Speaker 2: How firmly does he QB one?
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Speaker 5: He's our QB right now. And, and, uh, you know, there,
51:07
Speaker 5: it's not a, it's not something that's infinite. I mean,
51:09
Speaker 5: at some point, you know, we've got to turn a
51:11
Speaker 5: corner and, and, uh, we've got to see improvement as
51:15
Speaker 5: we do with a bunch of stuff. We got to
51:17
Speaker 5: see improvement out of the coaches. And so, uh, it's
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Speaker 5: not just on Bryce, but, but, and it's not just
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Speaker 5: Bryce's job that is not absolutely set in concrete. Nobody says,
51:27
Speaker 5: I mean, you got to perform week in and week
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Speaker 5: out and, and become somebody that we feel like is
51:34
Speaker 5: playing at a level that we can win with. And
51:36
Speaker 5: that goes far beyond Bryce. It goes throughout the whole team.
51:40
Speaker 5: And so what you've done lately is very important in football.
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Speaker 2: So who's the backup? I don't know. I'm glad to
51:47
Speaker 2: look because I think we're going to see him.
51:49
Speaker 3: He's saddled with the $ 12 million, but he wasn't the
51:52
Speaker 3: guy that brokered the deal. So I do love the
51:54
Speaker 3: fact that Kyle Whittingham and Jason Beck, guys that came
51:57
Speaker 3: from Utah can be like, you know what, we can
52:00
Speaker 3: make a– I mean, it can't get any worse.
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Speaker 2: I'm not paying him. Y'all are paying him. But I'll
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Speaker 2: tell you, the problem was Jordan Marshall.
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Speaker 3: I thought he was going to be– I mean, you
52:08
Speaker 3: let Justice Haynes go to Georgia Tech. I thought Jordan
52:11
Speaker 3: Marshall was going to be really good. They couldn't run
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Speaker 3: the football. And I'll tell you, if you can't run
52:15
Speaker 3: it against Western Michigan, I don't know how Michigan's going
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Speaker 3: to do it. They're going to play Oklahoma tight somehow.
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Speaker 3: We'll completely be away from that game. But if you
52:23
Speaker 3: can't run it against Western Michigan, how in the hell
52:24
Speaker 3: are you going to run it against Oklahoma and take pressure?
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Speaker 1: Off of Bryce Underwood. Tommy Carr is your backup. I
52:30
Speaker 1: don't know if it's any relation to Lloyd.
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Speaker 6: No, it is.
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Speaker 2: It's CJ's little brother, I believe. That's CJ's brother? I
52:35
Speaker 2: believe so.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
52:37
Speaker 2: That is what a win in the chat says.
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Speaker 1: All right, I think you win. So Tommy Carr is
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Speaker 1: your backup, but now reading... By the way, I'm just
52:43
Speaker 1: going to roll a freaking dice that he's going to
52:46
Speaker 1: at least be half as good as his brother, which
52:48
Speaker 1: would be better than what we got.
52:49
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but you say that,
52:52
Speaker 2: but let me... I'm sorry, Lance.
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Speaker 1: Let me read this line. Behind him, freshman Tommy Carr
52:56
Speaker 1: held off veteran transfer Braden Fowler-Nicolosi.
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Speaker 2: For the backup job. Yeah, the guy from Colorado State.
53:02
Speaker 1: So there was apparently the battle for backup, and Tommy
53:05
Speaker 1: Carr barely won it, according to MLive. This is an
53:08
Speaker 1: indictment on these massive NIL deals for high school recruits
53:13
Speaker 1: coming out. But if you're desperate to get the big guy, right?
53:17
Speaker 1: It was a bidding war between LSU and Michigan on
53:21
Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood. So you always should say, well, You should
53:24
Speaker 1: set a limit. You shouldn't pay over $ 2 million until
53:28
Speaker 1: you get a high school recruit on campus to see
53:30
Speaker 1: if he backs it up.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know what? If somebody else wants him, they're
53:33
Speaker 2: going to pay $ 3 million.
53:34
Speaker 1: That's how you get up to brokering these $ 12 and
53:36
Speaker 1: $ 13 million deals. Just like with the number one overall
53:40
Speaker 1: draft pick in the NFL, sometimes you're going to bust,
53:43
Speaker 1: and Michigan had busted on this guy.
53:46
Speaker 3: I remember when he was coming out, there was a
53:49
Speaker 3: small camp that was like, he's not going against really
53:52
Speaker 3: good competition in high school in Detroit. But the majority
53:55
Speaker 3: of people we talked to, including everybody at that on
53:57
Speaker 3: three party, was like, this guy is can't miss.
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Speaker 1: And LSU had him. Now, Brian Kelly gets fired either way, obviously.
54:05
Speaker 1: Probably gets fired quicker with this guy. I mean, I
54:08
Speaker 1: would think. He got fired pretty quick without him.
54:10
Speaker 2: But what if he's still at LSU? There's no way
54:13
Speaker 2: Lane would start him. You know what I'm saying? Well,
54:15
Speaker 2: I mean, how much better could he be with Lane?
54:18
Speaker 2: You're right.
54:18
Speaker 1: Maybe Lane can unlock him in a way that Sherron
54:21
Speaker 1: Moore and Kyle Whittingham have yet to be able to. Hey,
54:24
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the start of the NFL season when
54:26
Speaker 1: we come back. And we'll do our upset alert in
54:29
Speaker 1: the next hour as we roll on. It's the next
54:31
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