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Vikings Tailgate: Chad and Cy Are Bullish Against The Bolts - LAC - Ep 60 · The Vikings Tailgate

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  Speaker 2: Where come Oban Turm here?
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Tailgate.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Cy Amandsen. Across from me my co host,
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  Speaker 1: the Great Chad Daniel. It's a short week, Chatty Daddy,
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  Speaker 1: you had a week off. We let Blake be here
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  Speaker 1: never again because the game did not go the way
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  Speaker 1: we wanted. Never again.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe the one game you gave to somebody
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  Speaker 2: else was the Eagles. I got plenty of good Eagles stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I used to be a fan because of crisscross.
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  Speaker 1: I just the audience likes Blake. He's been on it
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times.
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  Speaker 2: That is not true.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who when he comes on. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: with you, he's gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a jinx.
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  Speaker 1: Banish him. Normally, we don't record so quickly after the
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  Speaker 1: last game because we're a preview show in theory. But
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  Speaker 1: short week, brother man, we can turn around all that
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  Speaker 1: negativity into some positivity on Thursday night football against the Chargers.
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  Speaker 1: And I was, I was getting ready for this show,
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  Speaker 1: and we have a friend who just knows too many
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  Speaker 1: sports facts to want to hang out with him a lot,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And I was just texting about the
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  Speaker 1: upcoming game and he sent me and so I can't
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  Speaker 1: guarantee this is true. You know, you and I aren't
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  Speaker 1: big research guys. But that throughout their history, not counting Thanksgiving,
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings are zero to six in Thursday night road games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have not.
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  Speaker 1: They have not won a road game on Thursday night
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  Speaker 1: in decades.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that they've been doing Thursday night football
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  Speaker 1: for decades. That's just the dumb way he phrased the text. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: he tried to put me in a sour mood before
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  Speaker 1: I came to try to be in a positive mood
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  Speaker 1: to fix how much of a sour mood I am
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  Speaker 1: because we're recording so close to a loss.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you something right now. Why
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  Speaker 2: don't you tell him? Text him back immediately and say
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  Speaker 2: how does one and six look? Because that's where we're at,
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  Speaker 2: that's where we're headed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you know, Oh okay. I thought you were talking
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  Speaker 1: about his favorite team, which I think that's their record,
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  Speaker 1: so that burn you were being positive. I thought you
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  Speaker 1: were taking a shot at him and knew who I
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  Speaker 1: was talking about, because there's clearly one friend we have
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  Speaker 1: who does stupid stuff like this. I have a question
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  Speaker 1: before we get in, do the matchup history and the
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  Speaker 1: current matchup. I don't have a lot of beef with
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers, cool colors, we don't have any horrific history
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  Speaker 1: against them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something. I look great, and I
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  Speaker 2: look great and powder blue. I don't have any because
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  Speaker 2: of the Chargers in case we play them, but I
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  Speaker 2: want you to know it makes my eyes pop.
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  Speaker 1: It's they used to be in San Diego, one of
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  Speaker 1: the great American cities. Not a lot to hate but
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  Speaker 1: I find it so interesting that a team, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so I believe the Clippers did this as well. You
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  Speaker 1: move from San Diego to La which is literally you
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  Speaker 1: can take the PCH. That's a four hour on the
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  Speaker 1: PCH to get there. Now we lose the Dallas the
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  Speaker 1: North Stars to Dallas, they become the Dallas Stars. My
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  Speaker 1: question for you is if we lost a team and
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  Speaker 1: they moved like, it's hard because they are Minnesota. It's
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  Speaker 1: the state, and these are cities out there. So let's
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  Speaker 1: say the Stars had moved and become the Sioux Falls
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  Speaker 1: Stars or the South Dakota Stars, so we're talking four
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  Speaker 1: hours away, or for you, the Fargo Stars.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, they Fargo Stars, because now you gotta hear
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  Speaker 2: everybody go, oh, look, the Fargo Stars are home today.
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  Speaker 1: I guess the question I'm asking is if you're a
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  Speaker 1: lifelong Charger fan and they move up to Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 1: are you bitter about that and you walk away because
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  Speaker 1: you're not getting a team back. I don't think they're
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  Speaker 1: putting another I don't want to guarantee it. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: in those meetings, but I don't know that there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be another one there. So do you just become bitter,
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  Speaker 1: find another team, or stop being a fan of the league,
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  Speaker 1: or do you follow that team to LA and be
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  Speaker 1: okay with the drive?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, here's the thing though, the drive to LA
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  Speaker 2: is different from the drive to Sioux Falls or Fargo.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna see nine cars going either way,
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  Speaker 2: and so I don't know. It would be nice. It
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  Speaker 2: would be nice to send the team to Fargo just
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  Speaker 2: for a year, so Minnesotans could go over to North
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  Speaker 2: Dakota and ruin all their roads and not pay taxes.
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  Speaker 2: I think that would be great. But instead we host
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  Speaker 2: the team, so we must deal with it, and that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I think that I think I would still be a fan. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And Leicester was so did you ever did you ever
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  Speaker 1: consider that when the Stars last?
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  Speaker 2: No? Because here's I was just gonna bring this up.
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  Speaker 2: This is the problem with what Norm Green did. It
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  Speaker 2: was so calculated and so mischievous that he took the
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  Speaker 2: North Stars emblem away. They became the Minnesota Stars, and
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  Speaker 2: then he moved them, and then they became the Lone Stars.
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  Speaker 2: And now that the Stars get so I was just like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, listen, Norm Green, I don't have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of great things to say about him, and this is
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  Speaker 2: a family show, so let's move on.
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  Speaker 1: When I think Chargers and Vikings, yeah, Chadley, I think
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  Speaker 1: two things. It's crazy that're from the same game.
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  Speaker 2: One of them, Oh okay, you know where I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Going already, one of my most absurd happenings. I'm being dramatic,
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  Speaker 1: but I would say in NFL history the fact, so
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  Speaker 1: you it's two thousand and seven, right week nine, Vikings
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  Speaker 1: Chargers end of the first half. Kicking a fifty seven
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  Speaker 1: yard field goal, Antonio Cramarti brings one hundred and nine
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  Speaker 1: yard missed field goal all the way back. At the time,
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  Speaker 1: it is the longest scoring play in NFL history. The
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  Speaker 1: only way that it could be more is if you
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  Speaker 1: Chris Carter Ballerina toes your way to like an extended
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  Speaker 1: two extra yards through the back of the end zone
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  Speaker 1: and that's where you catch the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And then that's just semantics, but almost that's almost what
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  Speaker 2: he did. It's it's almost nine point nine because he towed,
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  Speaker 2: but he didn't he so so you know, we've seen
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  Speaker 2: great receivers from the Viking. They you know, they have
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  Speaker 2: their toes on the line. Fully extended, make the catch,
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  Speaker 2: but that's going sideways on the sideline. Cromarty jumped back
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  Speaker 2: and caught this thing. It was almost like he robbed
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  Speaker 2: a home run. He brought it back. He jumped up,
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  Speaker 2: caught the ball which was technically out of the back
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  Speaker 2: of the end zone, brought it back in, and then
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  Speaker 2: went from zero to sixty before he was out of
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  Speaker 2: the end zone. That dude can move. And this is
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  Speaker 2: I think it was long.
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  Speaker 1: Will the kite that might have been long.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so fifty seven So I know where I
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  Speaker 2: know we look forward, we don't look backwards. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: tell you some Will Reiker during the Eagles game made
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  Speaker 2: a fifty nine yard field goal and I was in
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  Speaker 2: section one thirty six, which is to the right of
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  Speaker 2: the goalpost. This thing banged the net. It was so
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  Speaker 2: big it would have gone in from seventy at least
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  Speaker 2: seventy yards. It was such a huge kick. And it's uh, so,
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  Speaker 2: I know we've had some kicking stuff like this where
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  Speaker 2: fifty seven doesn't quite get there. Not anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Baby, What do you do you think that is? Are
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  Speaker 1: we just at the point where, like from an evolution standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: where back in the day, no one wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: a kicker, and then everybody's like, why you know, kickers
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  Speaker 1: make a lot of money and they get to be
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL and it's cool, and like at some
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  Speaker 1: point kicking got cool, and now it's a really competitive
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  Speaker 1: universe because we are at the point where you go, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: line up to kick it from fifty nine to sixty.
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  Speaker 1: It's not even really a question, right, which it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: more than a decade or two ago that you're like,
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  Speaker 1: if this is fifty seven, it might fall short.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah. I think what happened was a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people saw Happy Gilmour two with the hip surgery that
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  Speaker 2: they did, and I think a lot of these kickers
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  Speaker 2: are doing that now. And obviously that's complete nonsense. So
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  Speaker 2: don't write in.
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  Speaker 1: The uh, that would be a crazy game. That would
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  Speaker 1: be a crazy happening in and of itself, right. But
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  Speaker 1: but then our boy goes he goes smash zoid on
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  Speaker 1: the NFL Russian record two ninety six still bums me
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  Speaker 1: out that he didn't get to three hundred, just because
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  Speaker 1: that's a nice round number. But I remember, I remember
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  Speaker 1: as it was happening, thinking, you know, the conversation about
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  Speaker 1: goats and who's the greatest and all this stuff. I
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  Speaker 1: want to tell you why Jordan is better than Lebron.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm I enjoy that. I think it's really
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  Speaker 1: hard to do in football, you know, having the goat
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  Speaker 1: conversation because of the specialized positions and how different they
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  Speaker 1: are versus basketball, where it's a smooth, free flowing game
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  Speaker 1: where you can do a lot of different things even
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  Speaker 1: though there are different positions. But the thing that I
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  Speaker 1: remember about Ap is going I don't during that game
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  Speaker 1: and then the other time I remember it was during
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  Speaker 1: that stretch that year that he got the two thousand yards,
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  Speaker 1: that like those last seven to nine games where they
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  Speaker 1: were putting all those people in the box and he
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  Speaker 1: was just going and going and going, thinking I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that this is the greatest running back of all time,
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  Speaker 1: but in the moment that day that he went for
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  Speaker 1: two ninety six, that that that stretch of games, I
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  Speaker 1: think you take that guy against the best version of
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  Speaker 1: every other guy, the Peyton's, the Jim Brown's the same,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not sure any of them are better than him.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I mean Adrian Peterson, he could bounce around
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  Speaker 2: a little Barry Sanders with the footwork, but he was
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  Speaker 2: a he was a sprinter level runner that could that
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  Speaker 2: hit people like a linebacker. I mean, it really was
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  Speaker 2: unbelievable where guys were like, you know what, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: try to wrap up his legs, but then he'd lift
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  Speaker 2: his knees up a little higher and you'd see their
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  Speaker 2: shoulders separate and they'd be laying on the ground. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he was unbelievable. You know, it is hard to go
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  Speaker 2: who is the greatest running back ever, because then you
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  Speaker 2: have to throw in the argument of who in the
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  Speaker 2: same season has had a.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to do the tell you doing the herschel
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  Speaker 1: Walker thing? Is this thing where you have to shoehorn
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  Speaker 1: in her walker.
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  Speaker 2: A ninety yard run from scrimmage, a ninety yard reception
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  Speaker 2: from scrimmage, and a ninety plus yard kickoff slash punt return. No, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: of course it's walk baby.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's I think he was that sort
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  Speaker 1: of and we've seen we've had this twice in my
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  Speaker 1: fandom career where we've had a guy on our team that,
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  Speaker 1: in a moment, like the peak moment of their career
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  Speaker 1: might have been the better peak or the best peak
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  Speaker 1: moment that anybody like obviously Jared, Jerry Rice, but Moss
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  Speaker 1: at the peak of being Randy Moss. You go one
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  Speaker 1: game guy at their peak, I don't know. And that's
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  Speaker 1: that's what AP looked like. In that San Diego game.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, well, what the hell are we doing? How
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  Speaker 1: does a guy rip off like this? It was absolutely absurd.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you ask yourself, who do I take? Who's best
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  Speaker 2: game do I take? And he is way up.
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  Speaker 1: I remember this. I remember the far year there was
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  Speaker 1: a game where I think it was against the Ravens
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  Speaker 1: where he broke loose and he was running up the
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  Speaker 1: left sideline. Jay might remember this and he can tell
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  Speaker 1: me what the actual game was, but I believe it
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  Speaker 1: was the Ravens. It might have been the Steelers. But
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  Speaker 1: he broke up the sideline and he trucked a defensive
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  Speaker 1: back up near the sideline and let out this like
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  Speaker 1: scream that You're like, was the most absurd thing I've
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  Speaker 1: ever heard. It was one of the like, oh, no, one,
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  Speaker 1: He truly looks like a man amongst little children running
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  Speaker 1: them over and screaming.
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  Speaker 2: That is true.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he looks like the mascots against the third graders.
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  Speaker 2: Look where his Look where his knees are when he's running.
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  Speaker 2: It's neck breaking height. It truly is. And I remember think.
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  Speaker 1: Jay is the King immediately messages texts me Adrian Peterson
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  Speaker 1: versus William Gay on the Steelers. So I thought Ravens
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  Speaker 1: it was it was Steelers.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah. Ap was one of those guys where even
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  Speaker 2: if you even if the team lost, you still go
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  Speaker 2: you leave your jersey on and go out to pick
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  Speaker 2: up your dinner because you go, yeah, but we still
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  Speaker 2: got all day. We still got AP.
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  Speaker 1: We still got a p the the Chargers. In addition
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  Speaker 1: to being from a place that I think would be
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  Speaker 1: great to live originally, they also had, like there's a
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  Speaker 1: couple of things you already mentioned. There's three things basically
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  Speaker 1: that I'm not going to rail on here. You got
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  Speaker 1: the powder blue unis all time.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Dan Fouts, who I think a young
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  Speaker 1: like retired but now in the media, Dan Fouts in
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  Speaker 1: today's day and age with YouTube channels and guys being insane, like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you take that in his post career prime Dan Fouts
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  Speaker 1: and throw that fella out into days. I think that
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  Speaker 1: guy's an all timer. I think he is an absolute
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  Speaker 1: all timer.
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  Speaker 2: Also, he might he actually might get written in for
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  Speaker 2: congressman somewhere. Yeah, the first person to ever actually get
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  Speaker 2: written in. I don't know if that's true, but it
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  Speaker 2: has to be close.
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  Speaker 1: The he in The water Boy. God damn, he's funny
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  Speaker 1: in the water Boy though, the line the water Boy
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  Speaker 1: just needed some water. It's I as a anytime I
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  Speaker 1: can shoehorn Sandler into one of our conversations. Uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: a no brainer for me. But so I am. I
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  Speaker 1: am a very big Dan Fouts guy. But and I
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  Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I do think it's probably I like announcers,
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  Speaker 1: real announcers in movies. You know Dan Patrick's. I know
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: he's not an announcer, but he's a radio personality. He's been
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  Speaker 1: in some stuff. I don't think anybody's ever gonna touch though,
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  Speaker 1: Alan Michaelson, Oh, who are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Bob Yuker in Uh, oh.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's right, Bob Youuker. It's not even close. Bob Yuker,
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  Speaker 1: What am I talking about? I was going in a
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  Speaker 1: different direction. I'm an idiot. Bob Buker in major League
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  Speaker 1: is he He's unbelievable, King of Kings. Fun. This has
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with sports, but if you're a fan
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: of things that are fun to watch, watch Norm McDonald
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  Speaker 1: tell David Letterman his Bob Bucher story. It's on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome, but don't wait till our show's over. Listen
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  Speaker 1: and then go do it. You could also pause, but
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  Speaker 1: you know we're big. Take us start to finish, baby,
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  Speaker 1: We're start to finish, guys. I was gonna say al
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  Speaker 1: Michaels in Basketball, which was a big movie during my childhood. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because you can just tell. I think he signed up
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  Speaker 1: and I'm I love al Michaels. He's so good, dude.
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  Speaker 1: He's all these iconic calls. He was incredible in like
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  Speaker 1: the Pete Rose documentary. He's just great. And I think
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  Speaker 1: on Basketball, and I have no proof of this, but
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  Speaker 1: just watching it, I have to imagine he showed up
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  Speaker 1: and was like, what am I doing?
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  Speaker 2: What is this movie like?
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  Speaker 1: Not fully understanding what he'd gotten himself into.
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  Speaker 2: Al Michaels was calling a game with Kirk kurb Street
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  Speaker 2: and he kept making these funny burns and then I
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  Speaker 2: don't think Kirk was getting him, so he would explain
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  Speaker 2: them and then finally Al goes okay, like that, it
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  Speaker 2: was awesome.
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  Speaker 1: The third the third, Big San Diego Like for me,
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  Speaker 1: where I'm gonna give him a lot of credit is
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  Speaker 1: I'm a basketball guy and I don't know that he
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  Speaker 1: was the first guy. Jay, you can help us out
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  Speaker 1: again here, But I have to believe in the modern
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  Speaker 1: NFL one of the first guys who like he just
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  Speaker 1: didn't play college football. He was a college basketball player,
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  Speaker 1: Antonio Gates. So he plays at Kent State and then goes, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play pro football, and not only does it
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  Speaker 1: becomes a Hall of Famer man young side, the basketball
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  Speaker 1: player loved that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when, like a football guy would come out of
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  Speaker 2: a two a day practice and you like somehow had
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  Speaker 2: a pickup game going outside the school because that's where
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  Speaker 2: the courts were, and he was like, do you guys
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  Speaker 2: mind if I jump in? And then he just started dunking,
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  Speaker 2: and you go, that's incredible. Now let's reverse it and
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  Speaker 2: take it to the professional level. I mean, get out
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  Speaker 2: of here. How do you even do that? Because your body.
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  Speaker 2: The reason those guys can take hits in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: is because they took them in college, and before that,
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  Speaker 2: they took them in high school, and before that they
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: took them in middle school. Your body has to adjust
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: to getting hit like that. And he was like, huh,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I'll do it. That's fine.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: And he's not a wide receiver, right tight ends get hit.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's coming from a sport where if you
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: get hit on the wrist you get to shoot two
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: free throws because it's cheating.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Go I you know I don't need all that attitude.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: No one's down, no one's taking shots at hockey.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: No one can take shots at hockey.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Out of here, or I'll tell you who can't. Let's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: not do it. Okay, but you set me up. I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: guess who can't take shots?
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Play nice the Was.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: There a moment for you? Was it? Do you have
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: like I have, like a pathetic age where you're like,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna I don't think I'm gonna
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: go pro because I I remember being in my early twenties,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: having never played football and having a bet with someone
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: about how whether or not I could kick a field
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: goal from a certain length. And I'd never tried to
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: kick a field goal, and there was a part of
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: me in the back of my head was like, well,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: this is how it starts. I'm gonna go out there,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna knock this one through. I'm gonna realize God damn,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize I could kick a football. I'm gonna
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: put a little work in and I'm gonna wind up
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: in camp. And I didn't, like really believe it, but
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was impossible. And so when I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: went out and I struggled very poorly, I had the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: moment where I was like, this is the end of
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: my pro hopes in every sport available. I think I
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: was holding onto bowling a little bit in the back
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: of my head because I think you could probably get
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: good at that at a later age. But did you
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you're a psycho? What at what point did you let
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: go of the Vince Papali invincible? Like you had to
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: have thought if somebody he's me playing pond hockey, Like
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: what age?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you right now, I'm fifty years
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: old and I still think I could make the Olympics
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: in curling. That's no kidding. I invite me to your league, listeners,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: invite me to your league, and I'll show you.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I mean I just think there's this thing. Jared Allen
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: is on a high level curling team. I think you'd
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: have to find a sport. Guys like us need to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: find a sport where guys who are athletes don't want
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to spend their time. And I don't think they exist anymore.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I think with they've all been so dude. Brad Johnson,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the former quarterback of the Vikings, qualified for the Papa
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Shot National Championship oldest guy in the Papa Shot National Championships,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: which is last year. Dude, Ethan and I my nephew
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: watched a video. Dude, You're like, oh, that's a professional
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: athlete shooting Papa shot. I thought I was good at
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Papa shot. I am not good at Papa shot. This
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: dude is a professional. So that's the thing. Jared Allen
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: doing curling. Brad Johnson, when Papa shot, why don't you
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: just leave the ping pong and the BATCHI ball to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: all us noormies. Yeah, some of us can live out
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: our dreams.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you. In the comedy world, I'm undefeated
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: in Papa shot, and that's just a fact. I don't
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: want to argue. I don't want to sit here and
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: show you my record. But going to bars after shows
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: with a Papa shot, I cannot be beaten. And then
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Washington d C Kittie Corner. It's an underground billiards hall
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: has a Papa shot Kitty Corner from the Washington DC
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: improv and I go in and there is a guy
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: that is maybe up to my chest and he is
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: using both hands, both hands to just flick flick, flick,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: flick flick. It looks like he's trying to get rain
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: off of his wrists. And he beat me by more
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: than double and it was the craziest thing in the world.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: So I handed him my Crisp one hundred dollars bill
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that I had bet, and uh not great. I found
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: out that I'm only good against comedians who suck at
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: lots of stuff.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Jay just said tennis players playing pickleball is pretty next level.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Uh sure, yeah there is. That's a weird one. The
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: pickleball thing is a weird one for me because I
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: get so worried watching middle aged people play pickleball because
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think they realize how close they are to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: tumbling every time they play. But that's not what this
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: show is about, right.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: The show is about realizing that you and I have
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: another show whose producer doesn't do anything, and it's so
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: great to have someone in the book sending us information
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: and actually caring.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: It's great. What a change for the two of us.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: The matchup this week, Chad our opportunity to get right
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: if you will. I find it to be an interesting one,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and I would say leading that was what I going
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: into last week thought to be a pretty interesting red
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: zone matchup. Okay, now, did I anticipate we would go
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: one for six in the zone this weekend and therefore
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: change a lot of the rankings and things that I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: thought were interesting going into this Thursday night game? I
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: did not. But I think. I think. I think because
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: when you have a next level coach, right, and a
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: guy who takes a lot of pride in his play
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: designing and his execution there, this isn't one of those
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: things where this team's gonna go one for six in
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the red zone and come out and go one for
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: six next week. So I think it's gonna be tuned up.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some regression, some positive regression here,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: because going into the Eagles game, the Vikings offense was
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: sixty six point seven per TD rate in the red zone.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Chargers defense second best in the league forty two point
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: nine percent. Okay, and I thought that to be one
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: of the premier matchups. And I think now having a
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: little chip on our shoulder gives us a little juice.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I just whatever your second best defense is, I think
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: in the set, well, let me let me, let me
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: continue my speech, because what I am tired of? Can
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I give you what I'm tired of?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Why do you ask me things you're gonna do anyways,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: just do it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: What I'm tired of. And I don't care play anybody wherever, however,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: But as a fan and a complainer, yeah, we keep
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: running into these teams in desperate situations. Sure the Falcons
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: get housed or excuse me, they lose that really tough
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: game to open the year with everybody watching. Then we
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: gotta get them on Sunday night. They're desperate, right, the Eagles,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the world champions, lose two in a row, and then
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: we gotta get them. And oh, by the way, even
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: though we have a bye, they've got they had a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Thursday night game, right, a desperate team with extra time
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that cuts off our extra time. And now the Chargers,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: who everybody thought was one of the they thought they
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: were one of the best teams in the league. They're
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: not playing well, they get smacked and and we're going
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to their house and they got something to prove. I'm
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: tired of the chips on the shoulders, but I think
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: our performance in the red zone can mitigate that, because
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I think you take the coach, you think you take
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a players, and how proud they all are of how
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: they execute, and I think we're gonna punch that second
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: place ranking right in the face.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I like where your head's at. I'm going to tell
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you that watching the Vikings go one for six in
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the red zone made me realize something being at live
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: games is that I can yell as loud as I want,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: and no one can yell at me for ruining their
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: experience because I was doing some screaming, and because you
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: know that when I yell at home at the TV,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: someone that lives with me gets upset about that, even
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: though she can go full panic when she opens the
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: screen door and a bunch of bugs come in the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: house and I think there's a murderer about to take
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: her out. That's fine. We don't have to get into that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Can I ask you a question about
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: being there? Yeah, my dad took me to When I
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: was a kid, we didn't go to a lot of games.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: One of the only things we ever did is we
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: went to a Twins game and it was actually the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: last game of the strike season and it was the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: last game of Kent Herbeck's career. Wow, and so Kent
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Herbeck And maybe I just remember this as a kid,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: but I don't think so. I think it's what happened.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: He got up multiple times with multiple people on base,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: if not the base is loaded, and every time he
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: jacked one like put it deep right to the warning track.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: This place he goes up, this place goes nuts. Big
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: moment coming hits the ball, everybody goes crazy. And then
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and it was like four four moments of that throughout
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the game. Now, excellent end. The last out to win
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the game, somebody did a line drive out of bounds
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: down the first baseline and he did at that age,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: that year old Herbeck diving snag. Yeah, right to catch it. Excellent,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: excellent moment.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: And for you baseball fans, we know it's not out
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: of bounds, it's foul. Territory, But that's fine, keep going.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Did you was there? Did you have that vibe because
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: them getting like because I think they could have been
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: should have won that game. I think they were the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: better team. I know nobody likes to use that language,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: but I thought they were a very good team ready
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to win that game. Was there a vibe where everybody
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, here it goes, here, it goes,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: here goes Was there just like this pent.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Up I will tell you all day. Yeah. After the
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: third field goal, it was a lot of mumbling, the
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Vikings cheer song, right, it was a lot of like,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: it was a lot of that. But then score a
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: touchdown and then that Hockinson. Oh it was so close.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I still think it was a catch.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I think it was a catch. I don't know. I
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to get in the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: weeds with the ref who comes on the screen and
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: tells you what happened from his cozy booth, but I
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: don't happen to agree with him. The nice thing about
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: games is you usually get the energy and enthusiasm, and
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you don't get all the Minnesota pessimism where you kick
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the second ass.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna tell you, is that just
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Minnesota Sports has this thing where where we almost it
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: feels like sometimes we don't want it, we want to wallow.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: But there was none of that in this game. And
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: that's what I like about this team. It's like we
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: talked about Adrian Peterson. We go, wow, we still have
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson. We go, wow, we still have And now
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it's a list, it's a list of people. We go,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I still got these guys. Le let's figure it out and.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Let me add something to my whole red zone point here.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: They might be good in the red zone, but you
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: know what I think we're sitting on. You need to
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: think we're waiting on here. With how well Addison played,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I think I think we're gonna have We keep getting
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: these moments where we get these chunk plays, these fifteen
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Like I think we are so close to having a
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: game where we go, oh did we just put three forty,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: a forty, a fifty, and a seventy on the board. Like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I think we are so close to breaking through on
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: some long explosive passing games, and maybe this is time
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to do it. Maybe we skip the zone because that, yeah, Addison,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: that's a great idea. The Jordan Addison thing was nuts
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, and I it's why, despite the record and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: despite how disappointing that game was. You know, if I'm
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: if I'm being positive sigh, which we need me to be,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: if I'm going to stay in a text thread with
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: you off the show, you know, in our private life
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: about this team, I would say that for so long
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: we have seen teams peak at the end of the
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: season that play really well into the playoffs, regardless of
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: their start. You know, the Rams have done it, the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Patriots did it for years. I do think this team
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: has the makings of one of those teams, as they
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: get the rest of their guys healthy, as they really
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: sync together on offense, I think it is sitting there
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: waiting for them. You got to get this one. You
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: want to go to four and three, not three and four.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: But I do think it's out in front of us
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: as a as an option.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: And if you want to look at patterns here win loss, win, loss,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: win loss. I mean we know what comes next. Pretty Yeah,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you can't look past them, obviously, but talking about the
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Addison day of those out routes, there's gonna be a
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: time where we send Hockinson in the middle, and there
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: is a just look off to Hawkinson and then that
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: out route becomes an out and down and it's it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: gonna be an explosive play.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: It's coming, baby. You know. One other thing that I've
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: found to be interesting was there's somebody who tracks pace
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: of play and then categorizes it, and it's basically seconds
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: per play. And the Chargers have they are twenty nine
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: point nine seconds per play, which is considered fast in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the league, and the Vikings are thirty point three, which
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: is average to fast. So I think depending on how
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the game goes early, I think I think you're gonna
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: get some fast I think you're gonna get some movement.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: And I think I think the thing I'm talking about
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: where we start getting those shots, we start going, going, going.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I do think there's a possibility that it all comes
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: together just the way I not just want it to, Chad,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: can I tell you the way I need it to?
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear what you're saying, But I still can't
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: get over the fact that when you were crunching those
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: numbers and figuring that out, did you look up into
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the left like the good doctor. What's wrong with you.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm here's the thing I'm becoming. If I'm going
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to get from our friend texted stats that ruin my day,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go on a search for stats that
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I like. Now, do I know how to put those
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: into practice on a show and make the two of
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: us look good?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely? No way, no way. Somebody else call in with.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: That, But that's not That doesn't mean that we can't
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: put a little stack icing on our wobbly chocolate cake. Okay,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: all right, what do you got for a prediction? What
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: do you got for a player prediction? What do you
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: got for a chad prediction? And now I'm surprised that
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you're not. I don't know what's going on in your life,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: but I had this one pegged. You know, you got
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: a kid in California. Yeah, you know, we both are
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a part of the industry that has a lot of
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: stuff in California. Hm. The ocean's there, which you love.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I'm somewhat surprised that you are not on the go,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: do work, go to the game. See my kid trip
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: on this one?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see where you're doing that, but I
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be out there, see I'm gonna see her
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: she's actually gonna be here on that night. So we're
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna post up on the couch watch the game,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: and she can dream about, uh, dream about that. Watched
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: The English Teacher with Sean Patton. We're gonna stream that
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: all the way through. We're gonna binge it. It's called
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: kids call it binging. So so here here's my prediction. Now,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: obviously I said win, lost, win, loss, win, loss, so
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: you would think my prediction is a big win. But
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go very conservative here because old Justi Pooh
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: is good at throwing the football, So I'm gonna say
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Viking reeze.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about how much Justin Herbert looks like
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: your kid? It is? It is?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: It's wild.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: How often do people tell him or you that I.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Don't know about him, but I've heard it a few times.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they look very very similar.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Listen, good looking people shout out, I make good looking
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: human beings.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: It's like if somebody did, like right now, somebody did
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: a Netflix show about your kid and they had to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: cast an actor, they would cast Justin Herbert.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know that he's an actor, but okay.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: But he's just a bigger you know, often they pick
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: people who are bigger and older than.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: They Chargers twenty four, and I know that sounds like
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a lot. I'm so Minnesota Vikings to sixteen.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: To sixteen to sixteen, So that's a little aggressive, you know.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I think you're being a little aggressive because I'm I'm
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: a hardball guy. I think he's a very good coach.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say Chargers seventeen. I think it's gonna
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: be a little more low scoring. I think it's about
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty four for the Vikings. Who you
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: got for a player?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, here's the thing. I'm gonna go three players,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: and everybody's I'm.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: You're just gonna try to take as many players off
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the board. So I can't choose a player.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, because they're all from the same position.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So I don't think you're gonna do it. I'm gonna
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: take three players.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say they chose all the centers, that the.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Quarterback whisperer is gonna play all three quarterbacks that wants
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: wishbone formation, and we are gonna see some trick plays
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: like we have never seen in our lifetime.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: In our lifetime, mine is Justin Jefferson. Okay, it's I
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna get one of those Justin Jefferson. Oh yeah,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: No one's even close to this guy. Like twelve catches,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty some yards and a couple of touchdowns.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: All that film on Addison Hawkinson has come alive. Yeapdude.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I think that they are going to have to maybe
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: they say, hey, beat us with Addison and Hockinson and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: everybody else. But I think we're in a position where
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: we're about to have a big Justin Jefferson game.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Of course, I'm you know what, I could say, three touchdowns,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: one from each quarterback in the wishbone formation.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: What's your chad prediction?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: My chad prediction is I'm gonna be as loud as
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I want during this game because old girlfriend Kelsey Cook's
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: going to be at the University of Iowa doing stand
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: up comedy and I don't have to keep my volume
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: anywhere near normal. I am going to be yelling with positivity.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I am going to be shouting at how poorly I
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: think commercials are written nowadays. Everything that happens is gonna
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I'm taking it to a thirteen.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I am gonna be watching this game because I'm traveling.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching this game shortly after we land
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: in Charleston, South Carolina. We're I'll be doing stand up weekend,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: and my family is using it as a chance to
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: go on a vacation, and so I will be watching
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: this game with my dad on a phone for at
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: least part of it. So my energy will be right
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: here because he I love it. He doesn't handle the
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: chaotic energy. So no matter what happens, I go, it's
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: gonna be It's gonna be fine. Death, We're gonna the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: team is gonna be fine. Everything's great. Death that's gonna
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: do it for us. Thank you for joining us here
• 35:31
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• 35:35
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• 35:37
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• 35:41
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• 35:44
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