Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Tony Gurule: The Solution To Islamization In Texas And America
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- 0:00Hey friends, welcome. Today we're going to talk about a controversial mosque in Texas that's
- 0:06planning to build an Islamic city and they already have sprawling neighborhoods and not only that
- 0:12today's special guest, Tony Garouli from Radical Truth, is going to explain how there are already
- 0:18many mosques that are growing and the influence of Islam in Texas in the United States of America.
- 0:27That's next. Welcome to World View Matters discussing controversial issues,
- 0:35discerning current events, defending biblical Christianity. No topic, off limits.
- 0:44And now here's your host David Firazo.
- 0:48Hey friends, welcome. Thank you so much for tuning in and sharing the podcast. We're growing
- 0:54thank God, praise God and because of you. So we really appreciate your prayers and support. Let's
- 0:59bring in Tony Garouli of RadicalTruth.net. He's going to spend some time sharing some insights that we
- 1:05probably have missed paying attention to other things regarding Islam and the growth of Muslims
- 1:13and mosques and they're those communities, especially in Texas. Tony, good to see you brother.
- 1:17Thanks for your time today. It's great to be with you again Dave.
- 1:20All right, so before we jump into this, a lot of headlines over at RadicalTruth.net. We're
- 1:24going to get to, but I just want to mention we celebrated Easter a few weeks ago and the
- 1:29tomb is still empty. So that's the good news. Jesus is Lord. The tomb is still empty and he's
- 1:34returning, praise God, but President Trump put out an Easter message that was pretty impressive
- 1:44mentioning Christianity, mentioning the sacrifice of Jesus and so much more and it was just such a
- 1:50contrast to Joe Biden's message on transgenderism and several years actually last year and I'm
- 1:58going to get your response when I read this. So last year from the White House, now therefore I Joseph
- 2:05are Biden, President of the United States of America by virtue of the authority vested in me
- 2:10by the Constitution and laws of the United States do hereby proclaim March 31, 2024 as transgender
- 2:17day of visibility and we're stopping right there because it fell on Easter Sunday and that's what
- 2:22they celebrated at the White House. Just your thoughts, I don't know if you had a chance to see
- 2:28President Trump's Easter proclamation, but I'll mention that in a minute, but just your thoughts
- 2:34on just the contrast having an administration that's at least friendly to Christians and
- 2:40respectful of religious freedom and more. Well Trump had said that he would defend Christian
- 2:45freedom and obviously he's not trying to create a Christian theocracy in America which people
- 2:50are trying to make it out to be, but it's simply remembering not only the foundation of our
- 2:56founding documents and that they were founded on the Bible, but also the fact that Jesus Christ
- 3:01is Lord and there is one God of the universe and Muslims believe in a God as well, obviously they
- 3:07have the wrong God, but obviously Jesus and his perfect life, death and resurrection,
- 3:13being the eternal Son of God in human flesh, living the life that we couldn't live, in other
- 3:18words sinless, unlike us, and then dying a guilty man's death which we actually deserve. I just
- 3:24explained it this way to people. We broke God's law, the Ten Commandments and Jesus paid our five
- 3:29and when we repent and put our trust in Christ, then we can be forgiven of our sin and be granted
- 3:34the gift of everlasting life and it's great to see a president who acknowledges historical truth
- 3:41and I'm not sure if anyone in your audience, I'm sure some of them have, have seen, it was a behind
- 3:46the scenes video of Catherine Levitt, I believe is how you pronounce her name, the press secretary
- 3:51and she was in the back before walking out, before all of the media people, she actually was praying
- 3:56in the back asking the Lord for the words to speak and so on. So definitely a lot of Christians
- 4:02in his administration and that is great and yeah, it's exciting to see and obviously we can see
- 4:08the exact opposite of that when we look at any Islamic countries that are under and Islamic
- 4:12theocracy, there are people here in America trained to say Trump's trying to push what Christian
- 4:19nationalism or whatever else. No, it's just simply realizing and remembering what our country
- 4:25was founded upon. It's okay to be patriotic, it's okay to be thankful for this nation, this great
- 4:31nation in America and the freedoms we have. It's okay but that doesn't necessarily make you
- 4:35Christian nationalist but whatever. I was just impressed and by the way she did mention Jesus,
- 4:41Jesus just helped me give me clarity and whatever else she prayed. I'm just so thankful,
- 4:46not perfect men and women but there are men and women of God in Trump's cabinet. I'm thankful
- 4:51for many of those appointments. We also did a show Tony on Paula White Kane who we have some
- 4:57concerns about. We know there's a faith office but we also know there's a lot of good people in
- 5:03there along with some people whose doctrine you and I would not necessarily support or agree with.
- 5:09We don't know who has the most influence on the president but we're thankful. Back to the Easter
- 5:13Proclamation then we've got a lot to cover when it comes to Islam in Texas and mosques and all that.
- 5:20He said Christians around the world remember the crucifixion of God's only be gotten sun.
- 5:25Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and on Easter Sunday we celebrate his glorious resurrection
- 5:30and proclaim as Christians have done for nearly 2000 years he is risen through the pain and sacrifice
- 5:37of Jesus on that. This is our president. Of Jesus on the cross we saw God's boundless love and devotion
- 5:43to all humanity and in that moment of his resurrection history was forever changed with the promise
- 5:50of everlasting life as we approach this joy and this was a couple weeks ago as we approach this
- 5:55joyous Easter Sunday I wish Christians everywhere are happy and very blessed holiday. America is a
- 6:01nation of believers. We need God we want God and with his help we will make our nation stronger,
- 6:07safer, greater, more prosperous and more united than ever before. Thank you and happy Easter.
- 6:12Now I'm just so blessed it's so refreshing to have an unapologetic proclamation like that and we
- 6:18don't need to spend much more time on it we can move on but just a quick thought to wrap it up.
- 6:23Yeah it does say they're at the end day Trump more overused his statement to reiterate his promise
- 6:27to defend the Christian faith and folks that's what we need to do is Christians first Peter 315
- 6:33is defend the Christian faith theologically when we're out there sharing the gospel with people
- 6:38and as I always say the gospel is the solution to all of the world's problems including the ones
- 6:43that we're going to be talking about today. Yes it's really interesting I mean he is a friend of
- 6:47the Christian around the world and he will defend Christians he's against persecution he tried
- 6:53to raise awareness in his first term as president and you don't hear much about Nigeria but we have
- 6:59a president like this now who's back so we're thankful but now let's go down to Texas in the USA Tony
- 7:08I think a lot of people let's start with this whether you say it has something to do with 9-11 or
- 7:14whatever but a lot of people are surprised maybe even shocked that there's so much growth of
- 7:21Islam and so many mosques that are flourishing particularly in a quote-unquote red state like Texas
- 7:28you're overall thoughts on that before we look at some articles. You know people need to realize
- 7:33that if they could take over Texas they could take over just about any state in the United States
- 7:38figure for how conservative Texas is overall but yeah this has been happening day for a long time
- 7:45the as far as the Islamization and there are many cities outside of this area that have been known
- 7:51to be Islamized for many years now this just happens to be again making it into the news because
- 7:57things do every now and then when enough people make a fuss about it but Islamization of different
- 8:01places in Texas has been taking place for a long time and I have a number of those places to talk
- 8:06about today but first of all you know as you would saw this epic you know epic is a maybe not
- 8:12as popular word now so it was two years ago people saying this is epic that's epic well epic is
- 8:17technically an acronym for the East Plano Islamic Center and this is about 18 miles north of Dallas
- 8:24and this is a huge complex you're talking about 76,000 square feet and it's interesting because at a
- 8:32recent public meeting about this a retired police lieutenant of the Plano police department
- 8:40went in there he warned everyone about what has been happening around this area for many years
- 8:46including when he was a sergeant and he had many interactions with the people of this community
- 8:51but basically had said you know there's 75 residential properties here schools of medical clinic
- 8:56multiple businesses and even a financial institution that engages in Sharia compliant
- 9:03financial transactions and obviously Sharia or Islamic law is one is one of the main concerns
- 9:09that people have about this and that you see the Islamization of other countries that have taken
- 9:14place and how as the Muslim population grows they demand more things from Halal food to Islamic
- 9:20banking and so on and obviously what people need to know and I have some primary sources where I
- 9:26want to share with everyone is that we need to go back 1400 years before we jump to where we are
- 9:32now just to help it all make more sense yeah and that's the fact that the goal of Islam now this
- 9:37may not be known to your Muslim neighbor or co-worker they may know it but don't really talk about it
- 9:44could be a whole lot of factors here but the fact is that the goals of Islam as a religion
- 9:50is to have the entire world under Islamic law and that have then that have everyone become Muslim
- 9:56now we're seeing the Islamization of western countries and we got to think why is this taking place
- 10:03and what measuring rod do we have to let people know if their Muslim neighbor is doing what
- 10:09Muhammad said to do or not well first of all we have the Quran which is supposedly the eternal
- 10:15word of the law and these revelations that Muhammad supposedly received over 22-23 years of his life
- 10:22is now made up of this is known now now known as the Quran so that's the main book that Muslims
- 10:29go by but then also we have the biographies of Muhammad these are known as the Syrah this is the
- 10:34oldest one right here and this is a pretty thick book now i'm not even going to go in depth into
- 10:41the problem of that all of these primary sources of Islam are 150 to over 200 years after the
- 10:50life of Muhammad but nevertheless these are the primary sources that Muslims look to now if you take
- 10:58the word of the if you take the Quran and you take the Hadith which is the things that Muhammad
- 11:04said and did and here is a nine volume set of the Hadith wow okay that that is the things that
- 11:12Muhammad said and did and then you have the Quran and and when you take the Quran and you take
- 11:20the Sunnah and the Sunnah is the example of Muhammad the example of Muhammad is found in the Quran
- 11:26and primarily the Hadith collection that i showed just showed you there so when you take the
- 11:31Hadith and the Quran and the in the in the Syrah and all this information that is how you derive
- 11:37Sharia which is Islamic law and here are three Islamic law books and there's there's a four major
- 11:44schools of Islamic law according to Sunni Muslims the Malaki Shaffeeh humbali and and let me get
- 11:53that again here Hanifi Malaki Shaffeeh and Hanbali schools of Islamic law and these are the primary
- 12:00sources that Muslims go by if they actually know Islamic theology if they actually follow their own
- 12:06religion okay now obviously as Christians we have the Bible and in the Bible we have everything
- 12:12that we need to know because that is the biography of Jesus what he said what he did and so on so
- 12:18these are the primary sources that we need to have in mind we're talking about what we're talking
- 12:22about today so we talked a little bit before we got on the show today how there are some
- 12:28just like Christianity there's nominal Christians who maybe don't really follow the whole Bible
- 12:33they wouldn't have a biblical worldview then but they call themselves Christians there are also
- 12:37Muslims in the same category right yeah yeah there are 1.6 billion Muslims roughly around the
- 12:45world so people are saying 1.8 now but yes you have nominal Muslims you have cultural Muslims
- 12:50you have Islamists you have jihadists these are four categories that i use in a recent
- 12:55presentation that i created but technically they all fall under that umbrella of Muslim the question
- 13:00is which of these groups nominal cultural Islamists and jihadists are doing what mahamid said to do
- 13:07which of these groups would mahamid say are not his followers which would he say are not Muslims
- 13:13quote-unquote so it's all all these need to be factored into what's happening why it's happening
- 13:19and we got to ask ourselves why is this taking place in texas why is it being allowed to take place
- 13:26and what have Christians not done that's resulting in this taking place
- 13:31and by the way we have done shows with you before talking about mahamid and his background and
- 13:37how he was about conquest and how he he didn't even a minor howled was his wife
- 13:45aisha nine aisha nine years old i was gonna say he consummate it when she was nine but married when
- 13:49she was six but yeah yeah so there's so much more that people don't understand about mahamid and
- 13:54about Islam we'll talk more about that we'll talk more about texas and this what we would look at
- 13:59as a possible Islamic conquest and that's really their goal and when we come back on worldview
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- 14:54academy tony gruel is our guest today radical truth dot net a lot of great articles so many that
- 15:02you need to look up the great resources there on his website as well tony before we jump into
- 15:07more of this story in texas and the concerns there um you shared something before we got in there
- 15:13about the the you are in how many different countries now downloads and podcast listeners 123
- 15:20countries is that even more than that or what's going on there yeah what's crazy david is that
- 15:25up to about a week ago we had downloads in the 88 countries the newest one the most recent was
- 15:30South Korea where we had a listener or down person who was downloading all the sudden in the last
- 15:35week we've had downloads in 25 to 30 new countries and locations around the world so i don't know
- 15:45what exactly is going on yeah one person spread the word or a bunch of people spreading the word
- 15:49but it's it's not like one podcast went viral and it's just being downloaded a bunch if i go
- 15:55through the list we see uh a smaller number of downloads but pretty much every single thing that
- 16:02we've ever put on the platforms so praise god yeah because now the gospel apologetics and
- 16:09polemics are in that many more countries yeah praise god for that now go back to texas our
- 16:14concerns about what's unfolding there um in what with this article is over at rare foundation
- 16:20and that's what it says islamic conquest in texas and they're talking about this mega church is
- 16:26being the latest trophy in the mosque expansion war and it says what's unfolding there isn't
- 16:32community development it's a religious and territorial conquest where the symbols of christianity
- 16:39are being stripped repurposed and replaced to signal islam's dominance over texas soil
- 16:50Tony um i understand that you understand that but help our viewers and listeners uh break that
- 16:56down because that sounds very concerning to me in that particular story there they've that one
- 17:01is simply Muslims trying to buy a mega church and turn it into a mosque so that helps them
- 17:07islamize even quicker because there's no need to build yeah they just they're right they just move
- 17:12right in and they turn it into a mosque and that has happened throughout the us and through europe
- 17:18they are more than happy to buy churches that have shut down which of course is a topic in and of
- 17:23itself in a problem that we need to deal with but they will buy shut down churches and turn them
- 17:29into mosques in addition to that as we see in epic city that they're trying to build here epic
- 17:35ranches and so on there's a number of places in texas where there are there are not necessarily
- 17:41buying churches to turn them into mosques they're simply expanding the mosques that are are already
- 17:47there and the islamic center of frisco which is about 27 miles north of Dallas they have a 12.5
- 17:54million dollar expansion going on and islamic center of fluegerville 16 miles north of austin
- 18:01a one million dollar expansions going on and islamic center of urving 10 miles north west of
- 18:06Dallas they are they've already had stuff going on for a long time and if you go in that area day
- 18:13you actually see street names named after islamic figures there's a whole lot of places in texas
- 18:19that have already been islamized and haven't even made it into the moves but there's a lot of
- 18:25expansion going on there is the islamic center of obry about 48 miles north of Dallas they
- 18:31recently bought 25 acres of land for an expansion project the islamic center of quad cities 48
- 18:37miles north of Dallas bought 5.7 acres of land for expansion project and that one that you just
- 18:43showed on the screen there that one is 28 miles north east of Dallas and they're trying to buy
- 18:49again a 56,000 square foot mega church turn it into a mega mosque so there are there are
- 18:56multiple things happening here but the goal of it all is islamization now are they going to come
- 19:03out and say that their goal is to islamize the state islamize the nation no why would they
- 19:09but that doesn't mean that according to all those primary sources that i just showed a few minutes
- 19:14that is the goal of islam yeah so what what has created the atmosphere in europe and in the us
- 19:23and even in texas specifically why is the islamization even able to take place in the first place
- 19:30our christians not sharing the gospel our christians not defending the christian faith
- 19:35why are churches shutting down when it should be churches that are opening churches that are
- 19:40expanding so it's the gospel that we need to focus on yes it's the gospel that we need to get out
- 19:46there yes um so let's go over to this story over at the daily mail they did an article on the
- 19:52epic city as well um and now there's more awareness that has been raised about this but it's epic
- 19:59city it would be anchored by a brand new mosque and include a thousand homes green spaces schools
- 20:07and governor gregg abbot has promised that the development will never see the light of day
- 20:15uh he accused epic of breaking the lawn practicing sharia although we haven't read
- 20:21enough articles to see if there's any evidence of that um but tony can you talk about what's
- 20:26going on do you think this is going to happen or do you think now that people have caught on more
- 20:30texas will become concerned uh what do you see happening there well when he says it'll never
- 20:36see the light of day people are still trying to interpret what that means does he mean according to
- 20:41the current uh plans as far as the building permits because that's one of the things that they're
- 20:47really looking at uh did they get the right permits you figure the more uh lofty an idea is
- 20:53for a particular location and what you're dreaming what it's going to look like uh the the bigger it
- 20:58is the more chances that there's going to be problems with building codes and stuff like that so
- 21:03that's what they're really scrutinizing right now is looking at all of that stuff again even though
- 21:06the goal is Islamization they're never going to come out and say that and they even have a lawyer
- 21:11now who's now fighting for the Muslims uh you know calling abbot and anyone who's criticizing it
- 21:18racist which makes obviously zero sense because Islam is a religion not a race but uh i guess they
- 21:23don't want to use the term they don't want to call you a religionist so they call you a racist because
- 21:27that you know that that holds more weight apparently but basically they they have a investor group
- 21:34that was actually created by the uh epic leadership itself and it's it's a CCP you know great name
- 21:42for an investor company in the west but that's an acronym for community capital partners and
- 21:48people have to invest in and buy an eighty thousand dollar share in CCP in order to reserve
- 21:58a home lot and apparently out of those one thousand and eighty homes there's already five hundred
- 22:04that have been purchased quote unquote because people have made eighty thousand dollar investments
- 22:09in the shares here but yeah they want a commercial retail space a mosque uh Islamic K through 12
- 22:17private school and apparently one of the reasons why they have a 402 acre attractive land in
- 22:24Josephine Texas about 60 miles northeast of Dallas is is actually outside the city limits because
- 22:31apparently uh there's lower noise restrictions if you're in the country rather than in the city
- 22:37and obviously any mosque that is being built is going to want to uh belayer it's uh called a
- 22:44prayer through the loudspeakers multiple times a day so that that's another uh uh issue here
- 22:50that people have a problem with and so yeah uh April 5th and uh April 14th both uh uh Texas
- 22:57attorney general and also the the governor you know came out and said that there are problems
- 23:02with this whole situation but again what we will see that does this mean it's going to be shut down
- 23:07completely or does it mean that they're just going to have to really scrutinize the paperwork and
- 23:12fix a lot of things in order to eventually get it approved let's just say that the whole
- 23:18setting is shut down I already gave I already gave you in your audience a list of multiple
- 23:23other Islamic centers and multiple other parts of Texas that are expanding and or Muslim groups
- 23:30buying churches to turn them into mosques so either way Islamization is taking place yes but the
- 23:36gold the solution here Dave is the gospel and Christians and pastors of churches saying hey we
- 23:43need to get our church equipped to share the gospel with people because if you aren't comfortable
- 23:47sharing the gospel in general if that's an intimidating thing for you the chances of you reaching
- 23:52out to a Muslim are virtually zero so we need to get all churches better equipped to do evangelism
- 23:58if people go to radicaltruth.net they can contact us and ask we want you to come and do general
- 24:05evangelism training for our church because we have the tips tools tactics and principles to
- 24:11equip your church that will boost their confidence and will cause the fear factor because evangelism
- 24:18spiritual warfare that will cause the fear factor to go down and as long as our love for people's
- 24:23greater than our fear we're going to reach out to them but we have the tools and principles and
- 24:28tactics to teach you that will allow every single person in your church to share the gospel with
- 24:33hundreds of people per year very easily. Now Dave unfortunately some people think share the
- 24:40gospel with necessary use words that's that makes about as much sense as feed the hungry if necessary
- 24:47use food because you need to use words to share the gospel and we're going to give you guys the
- 24:55training that you need to confidently share the gospel with people around you and that's the
- 25:01solution to this because Muslims don't have the right Jesus they don't have the right God
- 25:06they either have never heard the gospel or they don't understand it one or both so the solution
- 25:12to all of this is not looking to trump and thinking oh well for at least four years he's going to
- 25:18protect us no don't look to the president as the solution here Jesus is the solution the gospel
- 25:25is what people need to hear and if we as Christians go out and share the gospel people who need to
- 25:30know and understand it which is virtually everybody that will take care of all this that will stop
- 25:36the Islamization that will stop all the other problems that the world has because so many people
- 25:41are looking to and serving Satan rather than the God of the universe yeah there's um you know
- 25:48there's so many problems when it comes to the declining biblical worldview I just had Dr. George
- 25:53Barna on the podcast a few weeks ago um everything all the indicators point to Christian compromise
- 26:00and the biblical illiteracy and secularization secularization that's what's happening as these
- 26:08mosques are being planted and they're growing um but there's nothing to be afraid of it's not
- 26:13just happening in Texas it is around the country but I like what you said the the the solution is
- 26:20the gospel to get people saved to build strong churches to get the reestablished the biblical
- 26:26worldview in our own churches so that we can be strengthened enough to understand hey we need
- 26:32to continue to do the work of Jesus that's why we're here um but yeah this is eye-opening I think
- 26:38because as we you said Texas used to be a conservative state um maybe so we'll compare to many but
- 26:46yeah compared to many but uh Tony uh we talked about the Muslim brotherhood before and just in our
- 26:51government and things like that and uh man it can be overwhelming to think about this as you look at
- 26:58Christianity kind of declining but then I see a remnant of strong churches I see some godly men
- 27:04of God good pastors I see ministries like yours that are growing and reaching even outside of the
- 27:10country and I get a little bit of encouragement I get a little hope and I get a little um just a
- 27:15a little sense of well God's gonna still work as long as we're here but we have to do the sharing
- 27:22right this the knowing the gospel um and brother I thank you for your ministry radical truth dot net
- 27:27and uh Jesus the gospel the solution we'll leave people with that appreciate your time brother
- 27:34thanks say all right guys um again go to radical truth dot net thank you for sharing our
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- 27:44and as always keep speaking the truth about things it matters