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Zenith City Radio: Community, Collaboration, and the Future of Independent Broadcasting · The Scene Projects

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  Hey down here.
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  It's beautiful.
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  Welcome into a very exciting episode of The Scene.
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  I'm your host Bubba Starts.
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  I am joined by three, lovely individuals who have driven a long ways to connect with us out
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  here the road.
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  Of course we are at the beautiful Dunmyers On The Lakes here in Brainerd, Minnesota.
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  Fantastic venue, for the last two days of less than that, even thirty six hours of making
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  music out here and enjoying being right on the lake and being in this culture.
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  Hence the choice of footwear.
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  But I want to give you all, because we've just met and I haven't done my research on any of
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  you yet, that's kind of how I like to roll here.
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  I love meeting new people and, this is the best way to do it.
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  So go ahead and introduce yourself going down the line and give us the give us the little
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  short a short five one one on who you are so we can move forward from there.
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  and foremost, thank you ever so kindly for having us and taking out some time of your day.
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  Solomon Witherspoon from Duluth, Minnesota.
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  I am the president of Zenith City Radio currently.
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  Quick background, 02/2001, I tried for the Chicago bears.
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  02/2002, I tried for the falcons.
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  02/2003, I tried it for the Cowboys.
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  I was with Prince's crew for about ten years.
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  You know, my two albums, have the new power generation instrumentation in my two albums.
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  Me and Victor go back probably over a decade and we've been making music and making hits and
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  making songs and just bringing everybody together collectively.
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  Period.
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  Know?
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  Everyone needs a helping hand and that's what we do.
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  We unite and we engage and we're solutions.
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  You know what I'm saying?
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  So thanks for having us brother.
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  Yeah.
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  This is beautiful and awesome.
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  Vic, he mentioned you already so go ahead and we'll just let you kind of do the same thing
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  here and we'll keep building on the bigger story with our individual stories.
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  Yeah, I'm from Las Vegas.
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  I moved to the area when I was roughly 11, 12 ish, moved up here.
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  My family had some family up here.
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  And I've been doing music literally for, gosh, twenty five plus years.
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  I've had several commercial recording studios, produced well over 20 artists, and probably
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  over 300 different types of songs, all types of genres, mostly hip hop, though.
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  And we're doing Xena City Radio right now.
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  We've had this for about three years.
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  It's really taken off.
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  We have the biggest big show with Solomon Weatherspoon that's on iHeart, all platforms.
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  Just it's it's been wonderful.
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  Just just interviewing people from all types of backgrounds, and it's been amazing.
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  And the radio station's up, way up with the listeners just from the two years, like
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  doubling, tripling.
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  And we're all over on every platform.
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  We have a huge listener base in Europe country, and it's just grown from there.
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  We just continue to to connect with people such as yourself and to bring a whole community of
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  content creators, entrepreneurs, musicians together.
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  We're doing a business gala June 29 in in Duluth.
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  It's gonna be wonderful.
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  We're going have a lot of city people there.
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  We're inviting everybody.
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  It's a free event.
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  We're going have an after party, red carpet, keynotes keynote speakers.
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  We just added that.
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  So it's going to be amazing at the Clyde.
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  So, yep.
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  And it's taking that digital platform and all of that attention that you've garnered and then
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  being able to use that in the real world now to bring people together to do And we saved the
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  best for last.
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  Why don't you go ahead and tell us, you know, obviously you're the boss of this opportunity.
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  We all know that sitting here, but why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself.
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  My name is Chantelle Turner, but I excuse me, Taylor.
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  Chantel Taylor.
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  But I also go by missus Martinez.
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  And I'm the creative director at the New City Radio.
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  And maybe there are some public strains.
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  I have my figures in just about everything we do.
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  That's fantastic.
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  And obviously Zena City Radio is the platform.
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  So why don't we start with that.
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  What is the difference between what you're doing and maybe what's available out there on
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  the market already?
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  What makes you different with Xenus City Radio?
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  Being the CEO of Zenith City Radio, I really wanted to connect with people on a bigger
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  scale.
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  I wanted to have a platform that we can promote others' music.
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  And I think the interactions that I've had, I've talked to artists throughout the country
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  that have reached out and to have that, again, that connection.
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  Like, there's a lot of platforms where you submit your music and it gets spin here and
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  there.
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  But the and the extra work that we put in to really help promote artists and business, I
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  think makes us stand apart from others.
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  But you also have the events aspect where we're doing concerts, we're raising money for
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  charities, we're out here putting on these galas.
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  We wanna take it on the road.
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  We're actually Saint Louis is one of the places we wanna hit up.
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  I have a lot of connections down there.
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  And it's been requested in Las Vegas, Atlanta, and then probably in Minneapolis.
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  But it's just a beautiful thing to see so many people from different backgrounds come together
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  and really put on a platform that is unique and can showcase so much.
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  And and a lot of the people that come to me have said, you know, we've never done anything
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  like this.
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  We've never been to a gallery.
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  We've never been to you know, I've never been on the radio.
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  We've never had a podcast.
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  You know, you're giving us this opportunity that no one else is literally doing.
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  So
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  yeah.
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  Because we try to do everything affordably.
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  Yeah.
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  And we try to keep it on on on budgets.
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  You know, we we wanna have it so everybody can get in on what we're doing.
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  At the end of the day, it's about promotion.
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  It's about investing in our community.
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  And I think it's been wonderful.
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  The outpouring of support restarted has been amazing.
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  We I took a break because my mother had gotten sick in 2023 when we had launched everything,
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  and she had passed last year.
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  And we just did an interview with the Duluth Tribune, and I said, you know, you know, I tell
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  everybody, like, my mother would've wanted me to continue this.
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  She would've want me to keep doing what I love doing and keep making her proud.
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  I feel that that's why this is this is also different.
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  This feels different because I have my mother's spirit and her and her vibe and her everything
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  behind what I'm doing.
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  So it just it feels it feels like I'm on another level because I feel like my mother's
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  like, just keep doing your passion.
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  Keep living your dream and keep moving forward towards your destiny.
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  That's what she always said?
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  Yep.
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  She always said that.
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  How lovely.
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  How lovely that you're operating with that mentality.
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  Right?
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  Because a lot of people I realize now that don't carry that.
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  We don't carry the spirit of our ancestors.
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  And you see a lot of I think that's why you have such a broken family structures around our
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  whole planet right now.
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  Right?
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  Especially in this country.
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  But the family is so far from the center of most people's universes.
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  It starts at home.
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  It starts in a church for a lot of people.
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  That you become bigger than yourself.
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  And that's kind of what you're building.
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  It's no different than what we're building with the SCENE projects.
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  It is communities.
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  And then we're all getting together and bringing our communities to each other through
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  these galas and these galas, in these conferences.
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  And we talk about content creator conferences or just get together, right?
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  And everybody who are stars of their own show are all willing to turn that camera around and
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  go, No, but look at the people I'm with.
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  Look at the stars that I hang out with.
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  And we've really caught fire with that.
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  My partner El Pablo one time with me on this tour behind the camera a lot but just as much
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  the star of the show as well.
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  And realizing that it's all one big movie.
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  We keep saying this is a movie and it's like yeah it's the movie that never ends.
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  It just goes for over.
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  We are our own reality shows and people are really into this, And now it becomes a lot more
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  interesting because you're bringing these other worlds together.
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  And when everybody kind of has a central location and then a format for how you
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  communicate and how you scratch each other's backs.
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  Right?
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  You know what I mean?
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  Making sure you're getting on and you're hitting that follow button.
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  Not just hitting the follow button, but Facebook will let you invite a thousand friends
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  to your friends pages.
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  If you're not being that friend that goes through there, and it's one of the things I do
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  when I meet anyone, is like, man, if I like your stuff, cool.
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  If I'm gonna hit that and hit that.
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  Because now it's a habit.
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  Right?
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  I've just been doing it for so long that it's just a habit.
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  And yeah, a thousand people don't go and like your page right away.
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  But now it's in their notification box and then pops up later.
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  And you get these residual attention that is powerful and it takes five seconds.
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  Right?
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  That's right.
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  I think if we all start to tap into each other's world a little bit more, which is
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  exactly why we're all driving across the damn country to do it.
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  Because we have a shared vision, right?
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  We've all been kind of given this mission together to go, hey this is how you're going to
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  cripple that behemoth of attention, right?
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  The ABCs, the NBCs, like network television and then cable.
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  And it's just been dwindling, right?
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  The attention pie in the 60s was divided three ways, right?
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  You had the three stations and that was it.
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  And now it is so fragmented into a million pieces that what we're finding now is only by
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  teaming up with other creators.
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  Correct.
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  And building your own networks of people hosts and shows.
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  You have to have so much content.
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  You have to be your own cable network, 20 fourseven content is what the people crave.
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  It's like when we were talking off camera, release a long form video every single day plus
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  our shorts and everything to keep up with that.
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  And we need that times 24.
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  Correct.
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  You know what I mean?
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  To even stretch the surface of what cable does.
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  It's awesome to reach other people that realize we're not going to get there without helping
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  one another.
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  And it's going to take a lot of work.
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  But the rewards of it when you're helping other people, you're helping creators to go and make
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  a $40,000 $50,000 a year living just playing music or creating whatever they're doing.
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  Hosting podcasts.
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  How rewarding that's going to be in two or three more years right when we're reviewing
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  tape and going hey!
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  When it was a baby right?
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  And that's why we won't tape.
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  And I kind of said regardless of what the quality is we don't worry about being the most
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  professional thing right now.
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  We're just trying to archive what the hell we're doing.
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  There you go.
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  That's what it's really about.
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  Chantel, talk about the actual nuts and bolts of getting the creative actually out into the
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  world.
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  Now are you guys an internet radio station?
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  We are.
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  As well?
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  So you have music that's going 20 fourseven?
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  Yep.
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  Right?
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  Alright.
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  That's huge.
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  So do you do the programming then?
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  I help with some.
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  He does a lot of it.
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  This guy I met him over a decade ago.
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  He was known as DJ Vegas Vice.
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  So he's the music man.
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  He he finds the most fire remixes and DJs
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  I've ever came to that.
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  For real.
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  His his ear for music is so insane.
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  I love it so much.
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  Mhmm.
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  And there's there's there's a lot more to it.
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  So the creative side is driven by our internal soul's desire for the interconnected,
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  interdependent way of living with other people.
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  And for Victor and I, we shine when we help others shine.
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  My background is in human services.
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  I have a degree in human services, so I I feel like I always have to be doing something to
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  help the world.
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  I'm an advocate of all sorts of different kinds.
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  And using this platform to help others shine is why we do it.
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  It's it's we're not trying to make a make a bunch of money.
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  We just wanna survive.
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  Right.
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  Maybe enough to thrive.
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  Right.
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  You
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  know?
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  And we use everything around us to help inspire.
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  And take you for example.
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  This guy is gonna do all sorts of stuff to put together a package of promotional material for
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  you that he's gonna put out there for you.
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  And maybe I'll have my hands in that.
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  No one ever gets to know.
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  No one ever gets to know.
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  We drive we pull our inspiration from the people that we work with.
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  Right.
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  And trying to get to know them and their mission and their story to help really show
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  that and help it shine.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And you know another thing really quick about the whole thing with the radio station.
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  So we're commercial radio station.
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  And I try to teach artists about protecting themselves, Registering with the royalty
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  collections, making sure you're reading everything if you ever sign anything.
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  That's a big part of what we do.
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  And our station does pay royalties out through our host.
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  So we're licensed in every country.
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  In every royalty collection agency, we are registered with them.
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  So we emphasize that, you know, we do have a way to be able to pay the artists that we play
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  and support.
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  Right.
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  So that's really important too.
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  Now is for for artists, how are they getting involved?
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  Are they paying to be part of some kind of community with you that kind of gets them into
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  the ecosystem?
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  Or are they just submitting tracks to you and you have to kind of sort through all of that?
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  Or what's the method?
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  Yeah.
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  We usually run promo.
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  run And I actually linked up with a pretty big producer in St.
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  Louis and she actually was one of the people that of went over with me.
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  She's like, you know, this is what I what I think.
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  This is my suggestion being in she's been in the music industry for over thirty five years.
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  And she's like, this is what I suggest.
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  And so I was like, yeah.
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  I forgot to do, you know, we'll we'll do that.
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  You know, we wanna be self sustainable, obviously.
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  You know, we have some cost to run a station, but we try to keep our overhead profitable and
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  affordable for what we're doing.
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  But at the same time, we want it so everybody can get in on it.
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  You know, if you wanna get your stuff played, we can put this promo together.
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  And I also do extra, some extra stuff for artists.
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  It's not just like, hey, we're just gonna do this and play your music for three months and
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  that's it.
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  I'm gonna keep working with those artists and developing friendship and a bond and a
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  partnership to help them grow.
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  Because a lot of them come in and they're like, I just do music and it's a business.
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  Right.
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  And you have to know
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  Well, and it starts it keeps sounding more and more like artist management.
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  Right?
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  Or artist, you know, instruction or consulting or you know what I mean?
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  Whatever title you kind of want to put onto it.
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  Maybe it's not full hands on management.
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  But it's definitely hey, this is we know how to do it.
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  We didn't get this far because we don't know what we're doing.
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  I don't have a degree that says I have a PhD in this to teach you, but I have a straight PhD.
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  And this is how I do it.
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  And this is what it looks like to really succeed and be at the level just that we're at.
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  Maybe you can get further than I can.
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  And I don't mind giving you the skills that gets that.
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  Because now we're attached to you.
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  If you make it, now we all make it.
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  Right?
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  That's what it is.
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  And when you're connected to as many people as you can be, right?
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  I'm sure all of us have Facebook friends in the thousands, You're talking about a 20,000 reach
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  between just Facebook friends, right?
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  That's not even followers on top of those things.
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  So it's kind of realizing, even for myself, lot of are watching.
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  Even if they're not hitting the like button and I don't see the vanity metrics a lot, I don't
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  look at them anyway.
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  But when I look at the views and I've been at a steady you know on the personal facebook like a
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  160,000 views a month.
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  I was like, that's a shitload of people.
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  Right?
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  Like damn.
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  Yes sir.
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  Because I'm not seeing 160,000 likes over the course of a, you know, because I'm not, I'm
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  just not watching it.
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  But to look back at it and go, okay consider we're touching a million people this year,
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  right?
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  A million eyeballs, we're seeing our I'm going to be a lot more careful about what I'm putting
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  out there, alright?
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  If you're all watching, then you're going see a lot more of what I'm doing and the people that
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  I'm supporting, and not so much the memes that are coming through.
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  You know what I mean?
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  I've just been a lot more careful about that.
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  Solomon, what is the future of Zenith?
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  Where does it go from here?
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  It kind of seems like, mean, obviously, you're the man, right?
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  You walk in the room and people know that.
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  It's very obvious that you are the one who's kind of driving the growth of this.
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  Where do you take this out to be the salesman and what does that look like for you kind of on
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  a day to day?
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  of
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  all, great question.
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  Guess the overall vision, I want revisit a few things we spoke about.
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  We're far more than just artist management.
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  Next event we have local businesses coming together just so they can all get acquainted,
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  meet each other,
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  share their stories and get to know.
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  It's almost like a chamber of commerce mixer, right?
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  But for hood people.
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  A chamber of commerce.
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  We are members of them too.
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  They will be there.
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  Yeah.
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  Will be there.
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  And it's also there's going be vendors there.
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  So it's not just a business mixer.
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  Right.
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  Well, we can do so much more because we're so much more creative than a stuffy business
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  people that are like, oh, we can do this and this.
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  We're like, no.
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  We know.
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  We're entertainment We're
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  going to have
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  a DJ.
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  We're going to have a dance floor, we're gonna have vendors, we're gonna have food.
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  It's gonna be family friendly.
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  And just pigeonholing into the artist management because it's already so much more
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  than that.
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  It's just you have so many branches, right?
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  So what if if the core is Zenith?
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  You know, what what is it to you?
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  At the very core, what is the main trunk of that tree?
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  We are an all encompassing one stop.
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  Literally not a shot, but a one stop vision that can unite this whole world.
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  We can unite every single community, every continent, every township, and every city and
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  every state.
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  So I want to revisit you asking me a question.
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  Didn't get a chance to
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  answer that.
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  Yes.
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  You asked me what is the overall vision and where do I see this take out for the future?
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  Honestly, just like we're doing now.
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  We have a vision.
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  Our vision will say we are gonna connect with as many people as possible.
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  It doesn't matter how long we have fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, an hour.
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  We're gonna say what we're gonna do and we're gonna show up and show out unequivocally.
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  We have no excuses.
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  My tattoo in my arm says once a task is once begun never leave it until it's done.
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  Be it labor great or small do it well not at all.
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  So we signed up for this.
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  This is a task.
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  We didn't sign up for nothing easy.
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  We are uniters and we will so to answer your question, where do I see Zenith City Radio?
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  I see this all across the world having having having lunch and dinner and everybody is
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  welcome at our table.
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  Right.
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  On every single platform, regardless of who you are or where you come from, you come talk to
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  us.
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  We will have the church effect.
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  What I call the church effect, you walk into church, and you all of a sudden, you feel this
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  message from whoever the rabbi is, the pastor, the preacher, whoever that person is, and it's
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  kinda like, oh, my good lord.
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  I wasn't even gonna come to church today, but you walk out with that feeling.
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  The word is incandescent, bright, shiny, bubbly.
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  It's kinda like, oh my gosh.
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  The church effect.
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  So you leave and you gotta come back.
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  Just like now, same exact thing.
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  That's where I'm not foresee Zenith City Radio but where I know we're gonna be.
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  Because the Lord doesn't put us where we want to be.
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  He puts us where need to
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  be.
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  Yep,
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  Yep, see I knew you were the man.
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  That's good TV.
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  And these were the conversations I was having long before I ever had a camera and a podcast.
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  Right?
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  And that's, it's only been amplified by having Zoom.
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  I live in the middle of nowhere.
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  I live in a 1,000 person farm town, you know ninety minutes from Sioux City and Sioux Falls.
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  Right?
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  I am out in the sticks.
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  And without the internet none of this happens.
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  But I've been able to not get caught up in a lot of BS and to learn how to use some of these
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  tools to network into the places I want to.
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  I use Facebook groups a lot.
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  Right?
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  Because a lot of them are regional based, lot of them are around a certain theme.
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  Right?
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  So I've been able to network through there and that's what's introduced me to a lot of these
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  people and then having a podcast now, which is just a vessel for me to say, Hey, I'd love to
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  talk to you.
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  Amen.
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  You know, I'd love to have a conversation with you.
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  I have an award winning podcast now.
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  Right?
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  And being able to say,
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  thank you.
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  And I wanna see what you have.
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  Yeah.
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  Well I wanna see it.
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  I I
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  feel it right here.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, because this is what I like to do.
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  Right?
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  That's why I wanna hear your story, and I want to be inspired by that.
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  Cool.
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  Now I got new friends.
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  Right?
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  Now I got a family.
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  I got a new table to sit at.
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  And we kind of come in as having the same vision as you do and saying cool, we're going
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  go out and gather all the people that like what we do and all these artists that we work with,
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  and we're going to bring them the same thing.
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  Right?
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  And then it just becomes, that's like the festival.
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  Right?
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  Because when all the communities come together at a 100,000 seat venue, and that's how you
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  build it.
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  You don't build it by necessarily having to do it all by yourself.
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  You just get out with the people that are moving and shaking and are willing to drive
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  three and a half hours through Minnesota, you know, vacation traffic.
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  You don't think about Sunday vacation traffic.
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  Everybody's going home.
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  You're like, what is going on?
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  I
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  wanna say really thank you for reaching out and thank you for everything you do.
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  You bring an immense amount amount of value to people and doing this.
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  Thank you.
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  You know, I always talk about adaptability.
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  My mentors, they say it's not the strongest or the smartest, but the surviving.
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  It's the ones that adapt the most.
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  You're adapting.
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  You're a musician.
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  You're also seeing, hey, what?
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  In a year and a half, we weren't even doing anything.
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  Nope.
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  You have a podcast.
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  But you adapted.
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  Yeah.
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  You're connecting people.
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  And you're not just connecting people, you're connecting people with your music, with your
• 22:51
  brand, and everybody.
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  It comes full circle.
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  So I want to commend you for what you're doing so thank you so much for having us.
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  Thank you, thank you.
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  Yeah, well and I've heard it in the business world now as I'm starting to step more in.
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  You're either a brand house or you're a house of brand.
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  Correct.
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  And it was shown to me, they're like, you're a house of brands.
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  You have all of it.
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  You know, the Scene Projects is just one network.
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  I have the Scene Projects Sports Network, Patriot Broadcasting Network, right?
• 23:16
  I was like, Oh, if every podcast is its own network, then you need to have as many of these
• 23:21
  things going on as you can, and everything wants to be niche.
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  Cool.
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  I'm amazed.
• 23:25
  Here's all the things.
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  Laid the foundation for all, and now it's kind of like, Okay, let's figure out how to grow
• 23:30
  this one.
• 23:30
  Let's water this seed and see where it goes.
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  It's already gotten me a ton of free stuff and access to places I never would have.
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  I work at the Denny Sanford Premier Center in Sioux Falls, which is a 12,000 seat arena that
• 23:41
  otherwise I would have no access to.
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  I would be a band that's like,
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  man I'd like to play that one
• 23:46
  a day.
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  You know?
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  I would still be that guy on the outside looking in.
• 23:49
  And now I get emails from their marketing director.
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  Right?
• 23:53
  Like it's just a different level that it went to really really fast.
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  So I had to like become businessman.
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  It's not that I wasn't with my band, but it's a lot different now as the conversations that
• 24:05
  you're having.
• 24:05
  The numbers that you're talking about all of a sudden have gotten a lot bigger.
• 24:08
  Where I was like, I wasn't really expecting this, right?
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  But we know that we are the future of broadcasting.
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  We know we're doing the right things and we're going to keep rolling.
• 24:19
  I had a TV news station that was afraid to meet with me because they're like, Well, we're not
• 24:23
  really sure we want to work with the competition.
• 24:25
  And I was like, I mean, flattering.
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  Right?
• 24:28
  That's flattering.
• 24:29
  You're a broadcast TV network albeit a small one.
• 24:32
  But when he kind of mentioned offhandedly what they were doing for viewership I was like, Oh
• 24:37
  that's not anything.
• 24:38
  Yeah.
• 24:39
  I was like, Oh.
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  Like 15,000 viewers?
• 24:42
  That's not a lot.
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  Okay.
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  And I'm not at that but I'm not as far away as I thought I was.
• 24:49
  I thought your numbers were maybe not 10 times that but five or six times, right?
• 24:54
  It's like, okay, we're touching a lot more lives and these people want to work with us for
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  a reason.
• 24:58
  So, getting concert tickets given to you now to do giveaways and to talk about their brands and
• 25:04
  different things.
• 25:05
  Yeah, it's not the cash rich yet, but in value to my life, right?
• 25:11
  Cubs tickets when I was in Chicago and on a golf course because I'm like, Hey, I have an
• 25:16
  award winning podcast.
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  Right.
• 25:19
  Well, and that's why we've moved into doing a song contest to have an award of our own.
• 25:24
  But then growing Well, you guys are good.
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  There should be zine at the ward.
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  You know what I mean?
• 25:28
  Oh, yeah.
• 25:28
  Yeah.
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  Which I'm sure of coming.
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  I don't have
• 25:30
  to like put anything out there.
• 25:31
  But they have value.
• 25:33
  Right?
• 25:33
  And it's not because you're going out there and
• 25:35
  you're saying, We're the best.
• 25:36
  You're No.
• 25:36
  We have a big enough platform now that we can bring and build them on.
• 25:40
  Correct.
• 25:40
  And that's what I've realized with my show and it's like, Oh this is what it's about.
• 25:44
  And then being able to put on people that are out there doing it.
• 25:47
  Yes.
• 25:47
  To let you inspire and say, Hey, I might not be in Duluth all the time, right?
• 25:51
  I might not be spending all my time in Minnesota, but these people are.
• 25:54
  Right?
• 25:55
  Know these people are you're going be connected to that and you're connected with them, you're
• 25:58
  connected with us.
• 25:59
  We're all related We're all in this together and that's the takeaway that I want everyone on
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  the show today listening to take away from this is to, we are in this together.
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  If you're a creative, you shouldn't be looking at other creatives as competition.
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  I know.
• 26:18
  This is a collaboration.
• 26:19
  We all need each other.
• 26:21
  If we all rely on each other for our content, we're going to go twice as fast.
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  You don't need to look outside of your own network, however small or large it may be, to
• 26:32
  start finding conversations to have.
• 26:34
  Right?
• 26:34
  You all hear me say it continuously.
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  If you don't have a podcast, you should be starting one.
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  Get Zoom or get on FaceTime and record it with another phone.
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  I don't care what you're doing.
• 26:46
  It doesn't matter.
• 26:47
  Start having conversations because those conversations are what changing the world.
• 26:52
  It's what's changing all of us internally.
• 26:55
  Right?
• 26:55
  I say it's kind of how God is speaking through us is by letting us have these conversations.
• 27:00
  And working through that.
• 27:01
  So parting shots before I let you guys get out of here.
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  Solomon, any words of wisdom for our creatives out there and then of course how they can find
• 27:10
  you and get involved with Zenith?
• 27:12
  Yeah.
• 27:12
  Absolutely.
• 27:12
  We are on, again, all platforms.
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  Reach out to us.
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  You know what I mean?
• 27:18
  Together we can literally there's not a mountain too high that we can't climb.
• 27:21
  So connectability, partnerships, and and again, you know, if if there's no pain in growth, then
• 27:28
  you're doing something wrong.
• 27:29
  And we are in this 100 together.
• 27:31
  Zenithcityradio.com, Facebook, Solomon Brothers, Chanel Martinez, you know.
• 27:38
  So reach out to us and trust me we're very very easy to find and really quick hey God bless you
• 27:43
  seriously well worth the three hour drive to come down here.
• 27:46
  I would drove 15 to come talk to you.
• 27:49
  I appreciate that.
• 27:50
  And your passion
• 27:52
  and your enthusiasm and your heart and how you speak.
• 27:56
  May the good Lord continue to bless you every single day.
• 27:58
  He will.
• 27:59
  Thank you.
• 27:59
  I appreciate that.
• 28:00
  Sullivan, thank you so much for being part of the scene.
• 28:03
  You guys are your own scene Victor and the lovely Chantel.
• 28:06
  Thank you guys so much for being on the show.
• 28:08
  And y'all just keep tuning in.
• 28:10
  Make sure you're checking out Xenith City Radio.
• 28:12
  Make sure you're tapping into the scene projects.
• 28:14
  I have a really good feeling that we're gonna see a lot more co partnerships coming out of
• 28:19
  this considering this is the twenty minutes that we've spent ever meeting each other.
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  All just keep tapping in.
• 28:25
  It's just going to keep getting better.
• 28:27
  So, I love you guys.
• 28:28
  Make sure you like, subscribe, do all that good stuff.
• 28:31
  And share this show out there with the whole world.
• 28:34
  Thanks guys.
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  You.
• 28:36
  Thank you.