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- 0:12[SPEAKER_01]: What's up, everybody?
- 0:13[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
- 0:16[SPEAKER_01]: I told Brian I had a surprise when we went live.
- 0:19[SPEAKER_01]: Another edition of Bears Overbears, powered by Second City Grid Iron.
- 0:25[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the Luchador himself, Ryan Drasty.
- 0:27[SPEAKER_01]: We're in my recently acquired, check this out, Brian.
- 0:30[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, it's epic.
- 0:33[SPEAKER_01]: It's an official Bears Luchemask.
- 0:35[SPEAKER_01]: I got in Chicago at the AEW Show recently.
- 0:38[SPEAKER_01]: very cool.
- 0:40[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to wear it all the time.
- 0:41[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little hot.
- 0:43[SPEAKER_00]: There's a guy bare Mysterio on on Twitter.
- 0:46[SPEAKER_00]: He would be proud.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a huge Nacho Libre fan for all our listeners.
- 0:51[SPEAKER_00]: And I am proud.
- 0:53[SPEAKER_00]: I am very proud of my guy Ryan, man, nicely done.
- 0:58[SPEAKER_00]: You should wear that this weekend.
- 1:00[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's awesome.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_01]: getting ready to hit some packers fans with a few suplexes.
- 1:06[SPEAKER_01]: I heard a conrona here and there.
- 1:08[SPEAKER_01]: We're ready to go.
- 1:09[SPEAKER_01]: We're given away merch tonight to Rob is in the chat.
- 1:11[SPEAKER_01]: Are ready from Tally Brand.
- 1:13[SPEAKER_01]: We've had the tweet going out there.
- 1:15[SPEAKER_01]: Just like we did a couple of weeks ago.
- 1:16[SPEAKER_01]: So they're sure that I am wearing right now.
- 1:19[SPEAKER_01]: The strangle hole, you can get this one.
- 1:22[SPEAKER_01]: Or the flag that's behind both of us, Brian, showing it off right there.
- 1:26[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that.
- 1:27[SPEAKER_01]: Beautiful.
- 1:28[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely beautiful.
- 1:30[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be doing that way here in the show.
- 1:33[SPEAKER_01]: You can go to my Twitter page, you can go to Brian's Twitter page, you can find that we retweet it to enter.
- 1:37[SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't already entered and we'll get that thing go and probably in the second half of the show here.
- 1:43[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, 20 to 30 minutes will be given that away.
- 1:46[SPEAKER_01]: But Brian, it's eight week, it's Bears Packers.
- 1:49[SPEAKER_01]: So first time the Bears have been favored at Lambo Field in 20 years since that season opener back in 2006.
- 1:59[SPEAKER_01]: we got a drink.
- 1:59[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you got in the glass tonight, Brian?
- 2:01[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
- 2:02[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go first.
- 2:02[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy to.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_00]: Even though it should be you because I don't want you to pal drive me to the face.
- 2:07[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, I'll go.
- 2:10[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited about this one too.
- 2:14[SPEAKER_00]: This is from one of my favorite local breweries.
- 2:18[SPEAKER_00]: It's called Frog Level Brewery, okay?
- 2:22[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a nutty, brunette brown ale, a delicious beer.
- 2:26[SPEAKER_00]: It's only 6.3% so a little bit lighter than I'm used to around these parts.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_00]: But the delicious fall, a tonneau beer, a lot of good nutty flavors in it.
- 2:40[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really just a,
- 2:41[SPEAKER_00]: You know, one of those drinks, you can kind of taste and chew on, just a really delectable brown nail, you can see the colors in it almost looks like pours like a stout.
- 2:53[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
- 2:55[SPEAKER_00]: So I got a little too much head there.
- 2:57[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, delicious brown nail, and I got it.
- 3:01[SPEAKER_00]: I'm highlighting it, my man.
- 3:03[SPEAKER_00]: because we got a nutty brunette in our house, right?
- 3:06[SPEAKER_00]: And not in my specific house.
- 3:08[SPEAKER_00]: I got a bunch of blondies in my house, right?
- 3:10[SPEAKER_00]: Girl that's it.
- 3:10[SPEAKER_00]: But the bears, we got a nutty brunette leading the charge.
- 3:16[SPEAKER_00]: And I just got to say, since I've been alive, right?
- 3:21[SPEAKER_00]: We've had Dica.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_00]: one set, Dick Joran, Lovey Smith, Tressman, Fox, Naggi, Iberfluous, Thomas Brown for a bit, and then we got Ben Johnson.
- 3:35[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't pay attention to press conferences for new coaches, Dick, one set or Dick Joran.
- 3:42[SPEAKER_00]: but every single one after that I did.
- 3:45[SPEAKER_00]: And there's only been one other coach other than our crazy brunette right now.
- 3:50[SPEAKER_00]: That actually mentioned the rivalry in his opening press conference, right?
- 3:56[SPEAKER_00]: Low and above.
- 3:58[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, love these the only other one.
- 4:00[SPEAKER_00]: And low and behold, we haven't beaten the packers consistently since love.
- 4:06[SPEAKER_00]: And even then it was tough because we had the far of in the era Rogers era, right?
- 4:11[SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't that, but we haven't enjoyed success since Lovey in this rivalry.
- 4:16[SPEAKER_00]: And I wish I had my lovey shirt on, but I got a rep, this tally brand.
- 4:21[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of my favorite, man.
- 4:22[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that team.
- 4:23[SPEAKER_00]: And I wore this shirt downtown Chicago, the weekend I was there for training camp.
- 4:30[SPEAKER_00]: It's off season.
- 4:31[SPEAKER_00]: People are like, like, looking at me weird, right?
- 4:33[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm just, I'm just stoked to be wearing it.
- 4:35[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm on this cloud nine being at training camp.
- 4:39[SPEAKER_00]: And nobody said anything, but you got a couple looks and whatnot.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_00]: It would hit different walk around Chicago where this right now, right?
- 4:46[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I was there right now with all of you locals and you know we're talking about the merch we're giving away these banners a shirt if you would prefer that.
- 4:58[SPEAKER_00]: I rep that in my Twitter post the one year wearing some great merch by Tallybrand and it's not just the bear stuff either, but this week is Packer Week.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought it was appropriate to shout out our nutty professor head coach and with a nutty brown ale, it's delicious brown ale.
- 5:18[SPEAKER_00]: And I just appreciate a coach that is real about the rivalry.
- 5:23[SPEAKER_00]: For we'll talk about that later.
- 5:24[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought it was interesting, you know, in our lifetimes, only one of the coach I remember made mention of it and lovey Smith, one of the
- 5:39[SPEAKER_01]: Well, one of the, one of the greatest ever for multiple reasons, our last Super Bowl appearance, but also getting us Caleb in that crazy sequence of events that happened, I was thinking about that.
- 5:50[SPEAKER_01]: As you were rattling off the coaches, Brian, and I'll get to the beer in a second, but.
- 5:54[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of amazing we kept doing this podcast, considering our first year doing this, we had to live through that final year of eberfluous and how terrible.
- 6:02[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're going through those names, I'm getting PTSD just thinking about it.
- 6:06[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sorry about that.
- 6:08[SPEAKER_01]: Some dark times.
- 6:10[SPEAKER_01]: I was listening to Water and Silvia the other day, and Silvia was talking about how,
- 6:16[SPEAKER_01]: Outside of Ben Johnson, there's only been two people in his life that I've ever given him the feeling when they came to Chicago that they went a title.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_01]: It was Michael Jordan, number one, and Theo Epstein with the Cups.
- 6:26[SPEAKER_01]: And he feels that way about Ben Johnson.
- 6:28[SPEAKER_01]: And I do too.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's going to be this year.
- 6:31[SPEAKER_01]: I am really confident the bears will win a Super Bowl with him and Caleb.
- 6:35[SPEAKER_01]: There's no question in my mind.
- 6:36[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to happen at some point.
- 6:40[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, let's get to my beer.
- 6:42[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I have.
- 6:43[SPEAKER_01]: I've got picked this up in Chicago when I was there for eight W all out two weeks ago.
- 6:47[SPEAKER_01]: It's from half acre, which is always one of my
- 6:50[SPEAKER_01]: favorite Chicago breweries.
- 6:52[SPEAKER_01]: It's called Lager Town and it's an October fest.
- 6:55[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, rock in the fall beer here.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 6:59[SPEAKER_01]: It's solid, you know, regular multi October fest.
- 7:02[SPEAKER_01]: It's 5.8% but I mean half acre.
- 7:05[SPEAKER_01]: Anytime I go to Chicago, I'm drinking half acre.
- 7:08[SPEAKER_01]: I like Daisy Cutter is just an easy drinking ale.
- 7:11[SPEAKER_01]: And I had never actually had their October fest.
- 7:13[SPEAKER_01]: So, I was there
- 7:17[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, so we we picked some up at the target buyer hotel and drank some in the hotel and then we actually went to another brewery.
- 7:24[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any beer from them right now, but they actually sell it here in eastern Iowa.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_01]: It's called more brewing and I went to the location in Bartlett and it was really, really nice.
- 7:34[SPEAKER_01]: So shout out to more brewing and Bartlett they got a I think three locations in the Chicago land area, but we spent a Friday evening there a couple of weeks ago how to blast lots of good beers on tap.
- 7:45[SPEAKER_01]: And like I said, we get there stuff here once in a while in Eastern Iowa.
- 7:49[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe I'll pour some more brewing in the future.
- 7:52[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, there you go.
- 7:54[SPEAKER_01]: It's your standard kind of October fest.
- 7:57[SPEAKER_01]: Dark amber color.
- 7:58[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_01]: There it is.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_01]: So shall we cheers Brian?
- 8:03[SPEAKER_00]: We shall.
- 8:04[SPEAKER_00]: My man.
- 8:05[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers to packer week.
- 8:06[SPEAKER_01]: Cheers.
- 8:11[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
- 8:14[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we're mostly going to talk Packers tonight, but do you have anything you wanted to discuss as we transition?
- 8:23[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is the transition show here.
- 8:24[SPEAKER_01]: In middle of the week, it's hump day.
- 8:26[SPEAKER_01]: It's Wednesday night.
- 8:27[SPEAKER_01]: We go from talking about the jet's victory to looking ahead at Packers.
- 8:31[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, anything that you've been wanting to talk about this from stringing your brain over the last few days, Brian.
- 8:39[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't say there is.
- 8:43[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was one of those wins, I thought it was a closer game than the score even indicated, you know, the jet's fought us hard and and you know, you wouldn't necessarily know it looking at my non-guys brush numbers.
- 8:57[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, especially in the first half, you know, they were playing him hard, our run game hard.
- 9:03[SPEAKER_00]: He only had 49 yards in the first half.
- 9:06[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, their defensive line is absolutely affordable front.
- 9:12[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a tough win.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_00]: And these are the type of wins when things don't go your way.
- 9:17[SPEAKER_00]: you know, we were not successful in the red zone.
- 9:20[SPEAKER_00]: And we got the win in a convincing fashion.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_00]: So like it was just a nice win.
- 9:26[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Jets and Ben said it to Aaron Glenn, his old colleague after the game is like, you guys are close.
- 9:32[SPEAKER_00]: And I fully agree that Jets are close.
- 9:36[SPEAKER_00]: And I hear you Rob, we'll get to the FGB promise.
- 9:41[SPEAKER_00]: So the way that we won was not that pretty, obviously back up quarterback, but we got it done, did what we need to do, and that's type of wins that I think build character on a team and I love seeing Rome finally show up, but no, I mean
- 9:59[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a wins a win and and when at home is huge and the win, you know, against a tough opponent like that was nice as well because we could inflict our our will against them.
- 10:08[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, no real takeaways other than that.
- 10:11[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it was it.
- 10:13[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the biggest, the biggest benefactor of last Sunday was Tyson getting a start under his belt, especially before going to Lambo and who knows if you have to start in other games, but getting that experience with the current guys on the roster, the timing of the routes, all that stuff, getting that confidence I think was huge because we're going to need him to dominate on Sunday.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no question about it.
- 10:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with you.
- 10:41[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there was some discussion after the game.
- 10:44[SPEAKER_01]: I was partaking it as well of, you know, are we going to go back to case?
- 10:48[SPEAKER_01]: Are we going to start Tyson in this game?
- 10:51[SPEAKER_01]: And I had said on the Bears by seven post show.
- 10:53[SPEAKER_01]: I did with Kevin that I thought you would have to maybe just think about it a little bit.
- 10:58[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I thought Tyson didn't play as good as case.
- 11:01[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he played fine.
- 11:02[SPEAKER_01]: I thought there was some moments in the game that I got a little scared for sure.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and no, no question in case played better the week before he's the Eagles, but at the same time, if you're the bears, you've got to keep playing the younger guy.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you kind of know what you got in case,
- 11:21[SPEAKER_01]: in the future.
- 11:22[SPEAKER_01]: So they got to kind of show him off a little bit and continue developing him and we've seen now that we can win with him.
- 11:28[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, I thought it was a point worth making in the immediate aftermath of the game that maybe you should think about it at least and kick the tires on it a little.
- 11:38[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, I'm not surprised that they would keep it going with Tyson.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_01]: I think you get in that start under his belt.
- 11:44[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting
- 11:51[SPEAKER_01]: league leading.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_01]: It's the bear is the bear already hitting me.
- 11:55[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, league.
- 11:57[SPEAKER_01]: Rush offense.
- 11:58[SPEAKER_01]: Rush offense, dude.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_01]: 232 yards of rushing offense against the jets, which equals what the Green Bay Packers have for the entire season.
- 12:08[SPEAKER_01]: Bears just did that literally 232 is the Packers total rushing numbers for the 2000 and 26 season.
- 12:15[SPEAKER_01]: The same thing that the Chicago Bears had in the game against the Jets.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_01]: The the Packers who played the Jets in week two and barely escaped with the win only had like 190 something yards of offense against the same Jets defense at the Bears with their backup quarterback just put up almost 500 yards of offense against.
- 12:35[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the bearers leading Russia, or sorry, the packers leading Russia this year, Marsha on Lloyd 81 yards.
- 12:42[SPEAKER_01]: They're leading Russia, Brian.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 12:45[SPEAKER_01]: 81 yards on the season.
- 12:47[SPEAKER_01]: The bears have two over 300 yards.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_01]: So it's this weird situation where
- 12:53[SPEAKER_01]: Objectively, just looking at the stats, there is no way the bears should lose this game and it's a weird feeling feeling going into a bear's packer's game like you should be that dominant, but at the same time It's football crazy shit happens, especially in divisional games and you know, so if they lost it wouldn't be like it would shock me it could happen, but
- 13:17[SPEAKER_01]: Overwhelmingly I'm expecting a bear's win and this one just given the numbers given what I've seen out of Green Bay.
- 13:23[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they look real bad.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_01]: They've got some injuries for sure, too.
- 13:28[SPEAKER_01]: Just like we do, I mean, they barely barely beat the Buccaneers who are one of the worst teams in the league, you know, they barely beat the jets without big make you too.
- 13:39[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they they gave up 39 points to a Vikings offense that looks like they can't score at all yet they're 4 and 0 the Packers gave up 39 points to them in week one I just really feel like this one should mirror that Packers Falcons game because you think about the strength of the Falcons running the ball I think they might be number two in the league and rushing
- 14:01[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that was that Thursday night game where they just blew out the packers 35 to 14.
- 14:07[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this bears pack Scam should be very similar.
- 14:09[SPEAKER_01]: That was also at Lambo.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm excited to watch it.
- 14:13[SPEAKER_01]: I'll always have a little piece of me That's a little nervous in a bear's packers game, especially given most of my lifetime and how those games have been but
- 14:23[SPEAKER_01]: You know, at the same time, it feels like there's been a changing of the guard happening since last December and, you know, the bears are ascending and the packers are going down and, you know, how do you feel about all of that?
- 14:35[SPEAKER_01]: What's your confidence level given the fact that we've played the jets?
- 14:39[SPEAKER_01]: We saw the packers did the jets and just, you know, everything that I said there.
- 14:43[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I'm right there with you.
- 14:45[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I expect.
- 14:49[SPEAKER_00]: I expected dominating victory.
- 14:51[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to predictions later, but I'm expecting a resounding almost one of those games where
- 14:58[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the players don't let their foot off the gas until the whistle, the final whistle.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_00]: And the coaches don't either, right?
- 15:07[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those type of games.
- 15:10[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we've been preserving some players, Kyler Gordon, to be one of them.
- 15:14[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ozzy, I don't know if they've announced anything about him this week, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's back.
- 15:20[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not because Theo actually played pretty well as we, but no, I'm with you.
- 15:28[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was looking at that Falcon's Game 2 35 to 14, you know, Falcon 1 and in that game, B. John, I mean, he's a baller.
- 15:36[SPEAKER_00]: I think he had like what like 180 yards.
- 15:37[SPEAKER_00]: It was at 194 yards rushing on 29 carries.
- 15:44[SPEAKER_00]: and two touchdowns and he'd absolutely dominated between he and Brian Robinson.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_00]: They had almost 250 combined yards rushing.
- 15:53[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I kind of expect something like that, but I actually feel like
- 15:59[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Beijing's gonna do some damage as well.
- 16:02[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he learned a little bit more regarding timing and this offense is rhythm with these guys, it with full speed against an opponent.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_00]: I'm expecting a big game from Luther.
- 16:14[SPEAKER_00]: I'm expecting a big game from Colson.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_00]: I think Rome's gonna continue doing, he's doing that feeling like Raymond's gonna step up again.
- 16:22[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I think it's gonna be just an onslaught on offense.
- 16:29[SPEAKER_00]: We're not used to this, you know, I'm I am known to be a man that's that's kind of in the eternal optimist and and I'll always Usually I hope for a good good game a good fight, but as far as a win I'm really confident that we're gonna win
- 16:49[SPEAKER_00]: in this series, the way that it's been with the quarterbacks we've had and the quarterbacks they've had, the overall teams and I'm confident that we're going to win and we're going to win big.
- 16:59[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they've got some pretty key injuries as well and they're just not playing well.
- 17:04[SPEAKER_00]: They obviously this suspension to Josh Jacobs or the exempt list before this suspension.
- 17:11[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think like you mentioned, like we're on a sending team because of the players, the scheme and the coaches and their descending and for a lot of the same reasons, you know, like their their scheme kind of looks antiquated or at least the league has called up to it now, is that the players are lack there of especially up front?
- 17:31[SPEAKER_00]: that could be the case.
- 17:33[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, or is it just now finally revealing their flaws?
- 17:38[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it'll be interesting.
- 17:41[SPEAKER_00]: I am very, I'm very fascinated by the fact that La Flore kind of side step the whole rivalry thing.
- 17:48[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't recall them ever doing that.
- 17:53[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like one of those things where, you know, if you had a brother growing up, all of a sudden, you know, your brother's equal, or you even have, you know, leg up on your brother, all of a sudden, he doesn't want to bully you anymore.
- 18:03[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 18:03[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, okay, that's what it is.
- 18:04[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it felt.
- 18:07[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, I'm I'm excited, man.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I think the whole team is and yeah, I'm looking forward to a demoralizing game for the Packers and they're faithful.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just I love having a coach that plays into the rivalry and you know all of that all that stuff with the hand shakes last year and you know it's like we had some coaches that were just lightweight didn't lean into it at all that sucks because the fans are so into it you know like I'm sitting here and I'm looking down the bears packers rivalry history and it's just like the amount of else in a row you see is just unreal like it's time.
- 18:46[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even remember off time I had how many games in this the overall series the bears were ahead in the early 90s it's like 20 to 30 games or something like that I like get a massive lead in the all time series history and we know a couple of years ago green bay took that back I mean now it's time for us to take it back and I should I think we're about to go and do an arrow where
- 19:05[SPEAKER_01]: the bears are going to win more often than not.
- 19:07[SPEAKER_01]: Look at some wins here and there for sure, but I think under Ben Johnson and the team that we have built, the bears are going to be the better.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have the upper hand in this rivalry for a while because I do think we said it last year before other people were saying it.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jordan love is a solid quarterback.
- 19:24[SPEAKER_01]: I think you would be hard pressed to find a general manager in the NFL that would take Jordan love over Caleb Williams.
- 19:30[SPEAKER_01]: And that has not been the case in the Bears Packers rivalry, like ever, yeah, ever.
- 19:36[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, since we've been alive, since we've been alive, I mean, go back to Sid Luckman, I guess, and then probably maybe that era, but,
- 19:42[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, we got the quarterback.
- 19:44[SPEAKER_01]: We got the coach.
- 19:45[SPEAKER_01]: I just, there's been a lot of stories out there about LaFlorer.
- 19:48[SPEAKER_01]: I've always felt like he was a good coach.
- 19:50[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's a great coach though.
- 19:52[SPEAKER_01]: I think we have a great coach.
- 19:53[SPEAKER_01]: And that makes the difference.
- 19:55[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I agree.
- 19:56[SPEAKER_00]: And I saw today the athletic post of Art of Gordon, if you saw this.
- 20:03[SPEAKER_00]: But...
- 20:04[SPEAKER_00]: This would be, if we win this game, it'd be the first time that we won three straight against them since 2005, 2006.
- 20:12[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like that's unheard of.
- 20:17[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you could look at our rivalry and they won three straight against us, it seems like every other year, right?
- 20:23[SPEAKER_00]: It's, they got that.
- 20:26[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm looking forward to the tide finally turning and I kind of felt that it would I was I was expecting Caleb to be back for this game saying and I'm kind of wondering if
- 20:37[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the poultry packers are the reason that that Ben's not moving forward with him.
- 20:43[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he needs him for when it matters.
- 20:45[SPEAKER_00]: Actually not against the cheese this week, but, but I mean, I feel like we can get done.
- 20:51[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm with you.
- 20:51[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there were a number of throws and decisions that that I was like, I mean, I wish I wish case was in for that because he wouldn't have done that.
- 21:00[SPEAKER_00]: But.
- 21:02[SPEAKER_00]: but I overall, I was pleased with the operation from Tyson.
- 21:07[SPEAKER_00]: And he was taking shots and making some of the right shots, especially difficult throws over the middle and deep on the out and he was making some of them.
- 21:19[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of the timing still similar to what Kase was doing, so similar play,
- 21:23[SPEAKER_00]: cases a little bit more, you know, unflappable, it seemed like and, you know, you can understand that he's a lot more snaps, you know, in live action than Tyson, but I'm excited for Tyson this week.
- 21:34[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's, you know, the perfect guy to kind of embrace this rivalry as well.
- 21:38[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we're going to get a big game from Tyson.
- 21:41[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people look at the running game.
- 21:42[SPEAKER_00]: I think Tyson's going to have a big game.
- 21:45[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, this is a guy who has every motivation in the world to go out there and prove people wrong and to be heavily motivated, you know, like he got that $10 million to your contract, the thing it was from the bears.
- 21:56[SPEAKER_01]: But like this is a guy, the bears have been very vocal that they think he could start.
- 22:00[SPEAKER_01]: for a team.
- 22:01[SPEAKER_01]: And if this is a guy who at the end of that can start, you're talking about a massive, massive payday.
- 22:07[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, that's what he's playing for.
- 22:09[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I'll be honest in the jet's game.
- 22:12[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think like he looked like a guy who would be a starter in the league.
- 22:15[SPEAKER_01]: But here's another opportunity to do that and put it on tape.
- 22:19[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I got to cut him up a little bit of a break.
- 22:20[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't started in three years.
- 22:22[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that was his first game.
- 22:24[SPEAKER_01]: see what he can do this week.
- 22:25[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, he's going to be heavily motivated.
- 22:27[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you on Caleb.
- 22:28[SPEAKER_01]: I thought all along when we started here the time tables that this would be the game he would be back because of the rivalry.
- 22:34[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Caleb wants to play for sure.
- 22:36[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, what we've seen from the Packers, I mean, they have easily looked like the worst team in the division.
- 22:43[SPEAKER_01]: And if you think you can win without him, why play him because we're playing for January and potentially February, you know, you don't need to have him have a hamstring injury lingering for months.
- 22:54[SPEAKER_01]: So what we'll be interesting though, coming out of this game is the fact that our next two are like within four days of each other, you know, and like do they bring him back for that stretch because, you know, that seems a little risky to do a Sunday and a Thursday game.
- 23:09[SPEAKER_01]: right away.
- 23:10[SPEAKER_01]: So like I almost feel like the earliest now might be that New England Thursday night game.
- 23:15[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I could see that.
- 23:20[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like if you play it conservative with them and if he's ready for Atlanta next week.
- 23:27[SPEAKER_00]: then he's good to go and and one of the things we've not talked about much and I haven't heard talked about too much out there is is how valuable this time is for Caleb to watch these other quarterbacks operate in the same offense.
- 23:44[SPEAKER_00]: because he's having a chance to see, obviously it was more quick hitters with case than it was with Tyson, right?
- 23:52[SPEAKER_00]: So his offense is more similar to Tyson, but he's able to, you know, analyze throughout the week, the process that both of them went through in there, because they're the same plays that Caleb runs.
- 24:03[SPEAKER_00]: And so can he even kind of own it down just a bit for himself to not try to rely on his athletic prowess to execute the offense at the highest level, because he's got a better arm than these guys.
- 24:20[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
- 24:22[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and you have to think that he's got the timing down better with these first teamers because he's getting more gets most of the reps with them.
- 24:29[SPEAKER_00]: So he should be most comfortable in the offense no matter what type of style they attack the defense with.
- 24:36[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully allowed him to kind of take a breath and be like, okay, you know, like, uh,
- 24:41[SPEAKER_00]: I can do this and if I have to run a little bit less, I'll do that because I can still get it to my playmakers and, you know, score some points.
- 24:51[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I'm excited, but the Falcons game I think they might need him for.
- 24:56[SPEAKER_00]: The Falcons are a tough squad.
- 24:58[SPEAKER_00]: Not many people picked them to beat the Saints in New Orleans last week.
- 25:02[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
- 25:02[SPEAKER_00]: I'm high on the Falcons.
- 25:06[SPEAKER_00]: Especially with Pentex back now, you know, he came back for that Packers game dominated and and he's playing well, I think there's something that the Caleb can learn from Pentex to like just get the ball to your damn plane acres right like Pentex will pepper Drake London all day and I don't know, I don't want to talk about the Falcons anymore, but but we got so many plane acres man, you know, like get the ball to Luther.
- 25:30[SPEAKER_00]: let him toast Kishan Nixon again this weekend and talk all that trash and and you know I'm looking forward to that man this is this is the first game since the strangle hold that Luther's been back at Lambo so there's going to be some fireworks yet these guys the ball you know Rome we haven't you and I haven't talked about this but Rome really impressed me last week as far as looking like he he looked like a top 10 pick last week
- 25:55[SPEAKER_00]: The way he is his six, three, 215 pound body was moving around, exploding out of his brakes, snatching the ball out of the air after the catch, getting extra yards, you know, and then we still have Luther.
- 26:07[SPEAKER_00]: We still have Cliff.
- 26:08[SPEAKER_00]: We still have Lovelin and Comet, and then obviously the run game.
- 26:12[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, all Tyson's got to do is get these guys the ball, let them do the dirty work, and we should absolutely, you know, thrash these guys.
- 26:21[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 26:22[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no question.
- 26:23[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to get the ball out quicker.
- 26:25[SPEAKER_01]: I felt in the first half, especially in the jet's game.
- 26:27[SPEAKER_01]: He was holding on to it too long, a little indecisive.
- 26:30[SPEAKER_01]: Got him at the trouble.
- 26:32[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just, I mean, look at the injuries that Green Bay has.
- 26:36[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't think running the ball is going to be a problem.
- 26:37[SPEAKER_01]: But losing Edron Cooper,
- 26:39[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that could lead to a big tight end game here.
- 26:42[SPEAKER_01]: If they just get the ball right out to the tight ends, the middle will feel be so much easier that this could be the coolest to level in game.
- 26:49[SPEAKER_01]: I hate to say that because I predicted it all year and it has really happened in a big way.
- 26:54[SPEAKER_01]: But man, there's an opportunity here for sure.
- 26:58[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I hope they, I don't think they will give in the rivalry.
- 27:02[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they need to run up the score right away.
- 27:05[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, just yes, they could run the ball all day.
- 27:08[SPEAKER_01]: We just saw 14 plus minutes.
- 27:10[SPEAKER_01]: They had the ball in the fourth quarter against the jets.
- 27:12[SPEAKER_01]: They probably do that to Green Bay, late in the game if they wanted.
- 27:16[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, run the ball, run it down their throats.
- 27:18[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to see if he's able to play, hopefully.
- 27:21[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the injury report was pretty bad today, but monungai is day to day.
- 27:25[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't need to see him run in the ball 30 times, but run the ball down their throat and then allow Beijing the opportunity.
- 27:34[SPEAKER_01]: Have some confidence in him because I did feel on how you felt, but in the jet's game, it definitely felt that
- 27:41[SPEAKER_01]: at least early in the second half that and no, most of the second half.
- 27:45[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like Ben kind of lost a little faith in him and he didn't give him as many opportunities to make plays.
- 27:51[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 27:52[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 27:52[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it was, I feel like it was more.
- 27:57[SPEAKER_00]: Swift got on his bad side with that fumble and he kind of talked about his press conference, but monon guy, bro, like he was just, I think this is his best game as a pro.
- 28:08[SPEAKER_00]: And I know he put up more yards last year against the mangos, but that was an offensive onslaught for the whole team.
- 28:14[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but none guy was pretty much our offense this week.
- 28:17[SPEAKER_00]: He was the only guy that was consistently, you know, breaking off chunk plays every time he got it and fighting for extra yards.
- 28:23[SPEAKER_00]: He was just in rhythm.
- 28:25[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we've talked on this podcast about how annoying it is for any play caller to get away from the hot hand, right?
- 28:32[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think it was one of the Andre's fumble.
- 28:35[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was against the Vikings where.
- 28:38[SPEAKER_00]: monungai got them in field position and then he put the swift in there the goal line and to a fumble like a ride the damn hot hand and and he did that you know almost to our detriment because the as he said you know Kyle monungai he felt like he had he had just had 30 carries but I think that's more what it was it was it was time to run the rock pound it inflict their will and as opposed to Tyson I think he's got all the confidence in the world for Tyson
- 29:08[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he kind of wants to, you know, leave a little bit of meat on the bone for this week as far as, you know, the play calls and and and what he's putting on tape.
- 29:17[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think he wants to stick it to green bay and and I think I think he's confident Tyson can do that and you know, I think Tyson will as well.
- 29:27[SPEAKER_01]: If they walk out with the win, like we're expecting, that would be pretty remarkable, especially if Caleb comes back next week or right after that, to have gone three and no without your starting quarterback.
- 29:37[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just think about where our minds and hearts were when he went down against the Vikings and what we were thinking about the rest of the season.
- 29:45[SPEAKER_01]: And here we are, we've gone two and no with two different quarterbacks.
- 29:49[SPEAKER_01]: We feel confident going into Green Bay.
- 29:51[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that is incredible.
- 29:52[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember a time.
- 29:55[SPEAKER_01]: Think about how many times as bear's fans.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_01]: the starting quarterback getting injured just ended the season that in there.
- 30:01[SPEAKER_01]: There was no reason to watch them anymore.
- 30:03[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like it happened numerous, the only time where it still worked out really that I can remember was an O5 with Orton.
- 30:11[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, that was just a freaking anemic offense.
- 30:15[SPEAKER_01]: It was horrible to watch.
- 30:16[SPEAKER_01]: Our defense was better than the Super Bowl year.
- 30:19[SPEAKER_01]: And they carried that team while, you know, we just didn't do hardly anything on offense.
- 30:24[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean outside of that it was like Jay getting injured all the time sees an over, you know, we're not really old enough to remember, but make man obviously back in the 80s right
- 30:34[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty good.
- 30:35[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty good.
- 30:36[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 30:37[SPEAKER_00]: But you didn't feel like they could go.
- 30:39[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
- 30:40[SPEAKER_00]: They could.
- 30:41[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 30:41[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
- 30:42[SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't compete the same level that they could.
- 30:45[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas I feel like with Beijing or Kingdom, we could compete with any team still.
- 30:50[SPEAKER_00]: Because we've got bent.
- 30:51[SPEAKER_00]: We've got the offensive line.
- 30:53[SPEAKER_00]: We've got we've still got the weapons and our defense plane lights out.
- 30:57[SPEAKER_00]: Like we've not talked about that.
- 30:58[SPEAKER_00]: It's not enough on this show.
- 31:01[SPEAKER_00]: And the job he's done it and bro like we have talked about Kyler at Nazium and he might be back this week I feel like he's kind of in the hopper.
- 31:11[SPEAKER_00]: They're waiting on him to be healthy for this game and Gosh, if Dennis Allen has him and his disposal this week, that's gonna be lethal Yeah, I mean, what's that gonna mean for Ty Rikythik?
- 31:25[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Tyreek is like bad this year.
- 31:28[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's a great and run support.
- 31:30[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, bad otherwise.
- 31:32[SPEAKER_00]: I think Tyreek's going to see the bench again.
- 31:35[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 31:36[SPEAKER_00]: But, and I think you got, you got Malik outside and, and Kyler inside.
- 31:41[SPEAKER_00]: And they'll probably, you know, share some reps, get Kim Lewis back in the slot a little bit.
- 31:45[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, you can't have enough.
- 31:48[SPEAKER_00]: You can't have too many solid defensive backs, especially guys that can play in the slot.
- 31:53[SPEAKER_00]: And Kyler is one of the best in the league when he's healthy.
- 31:56[SPEAKER_00]: So, having him back for this week is going to be really special.
- 31:59[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, let's hope he is because it sure seems like he should be even practice fully last week and he's practiced fully today and Right, you know, it seems like he's good to go.
- 32:09[SPEAKER_01]: This is his first game eligible to come back so
- 32:12[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
- 32:12[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there are predictions here in just a minute, but let's do the giveaway.
- 32:15[SPEAKER_01]: Should we do it?
- 32:16[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.
- 32:17[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 32:18[SPEAKER_01]: So we had quite a few entries.
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- 32:47[SPEAKER_01]: So just like when we did this two weeks ago, we had the requirement.
- 32:51[SPEAKER_01]: You retweet the tweet there.
- 32:52[SPEAKER_01]: It is on the screen.
- 32:53[SPEAKER_01]: You have to follow myself, Brian, and Tally, Brian, and this time, we're doing two winners.
- 33:00[SPEAKER_01]: Bam!
- 33:01[SPEAKER_01]: Two winners.
- 33:02[SPEAKER_01]: So here we go.
- 33:03[SPEAKER_01]: Let's pick a winner.
- 33:04[SPEAKER_01]: It's rolling.
- 33:05[SPEAKER_01]: It's collecting our participants as we speak.
- 33:13[SPEAKER_00]: Dealing the cards never done to is going to show us two are going to want it back for it Yeah, I don't know how it's going to work.
- 33:19[SPEAKER_01]: I like the animation though.
- 33:20[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's fun All right, almost to the bottom of the deck who is going to win Number one and number two come at the same time dealing blackjack So we got Cubs in 16
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- 33:40[SPEAKER_01]: And then we've got trapeze 11 with the Mongo-McMichael appetite.
- 33:45[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I love it.
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- 33:47[SPEAKER_01]: Congratulations both of you.
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- 33:51[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, we'll be getting a hold of you.
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- 34:02[SPEAKER_01]: Brian, what's your prediction?
- 34:04[SPEAKER_01]: Bears Packers, it's here at 42-16.
- 34:08[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, 42-16.
- 34:13[SPEAKER_01]: I love that confidence.
- 34:15[SPEAKER_01]: That would like, man, one of my favorite all-time favorite Bears Packers games outside of before this last year when we had the two great ones would definitely be the O6 opener when they shut them out at
- 34:29[SPEAKER_01]: If they could do that, I mean, that's the same margin, I guess, 26 points.
- 34:33[SPEAKER_01]: But I would probably like this a little more.
- 34:35[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that would be incredible.
- 34:36[SPEAKER_01]: 42 to 16.
- 34:37[SPEAKER_00]: But then we haven't talked about our predictions as far as the previous ones.
- 34:42[SPEAKER_00]: But I've been pretty damn close this year.
- 34:44[SPEAKER_00]: If you've been in the church, yeah, you know, the, the jets.
- 34:49[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, we'll have some points on the board.
- 34:50[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, and then we all know the, the bourbon inducing Eagle game.
- 34:59[SPEAKER_00]: which I almost picked up some eagle rare 10 year today, but I did not, I got something else.
- 35:06[SPEAKER_01]: That stuff is really hard to find around here.
- 35:09[SPEAKER_01]: I would add that for sure.
- 35:11[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted, so he said he's waiting on some 12 year, which I've never seen.
- 35:16[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm gonna go back in a couple weeks and hopefully get me by all those, but what's your prediction?
- 35:23[SPEAKER_00]: Don't delay it any longer.
- 35:24[SPEAKER_00]: Tell the audience what they want to hear.
- 35:28[SPEAKER_01]: I go a little lower than you, but it's still a pretty good spread here 38 20 bears.
- 35:33[SPEAKER_01]: I go 38 20.
- 35:35[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that bears pull out to a really big lead pack or score some at the end there to make it look a little bit better, but they're so losing by double digits 38 20.
- 35:45[SPEAKER_00]: love there's like two and a half three point favorites right now i haven't looked lately yeah it was two and a half today earlier um it was three yesterday i believe okay i mean three and a half but it's two and a half you know in lambo with a back quarterback that's that's pretty remarkable
- 36:00[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, if you bet on it before this last game, I think if you look to had a week, the packers were actually favored and you could have got the bears like plus that would have been a hell of a bet to take.
- 36:13[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, 3820 42 16.
- 36:17[SPEAKER_01]: Man, we will be we'll be having a fun time on this show next Wednesday if that's what it is because we we have got to turn this rivalry like you said I mean, you pretty much most of our conscious life has bears fans because the rivalry really shifted in 93 You know, a farm taken out and the only time the bears like really had a run was when lovey first got here like you mentioned in 05
- 36:41[SPEAKER_01]: The bear swept them.
- 36:42[SPEAKER_01]: They won the opener in 06 and then there was that new year's game going into 07, which was like a portable game Like that wasn't at the 0.0 Rex quarterback rating or something like that or it was really low But other than that, I mean, I'm looking lovey.
- 36:57[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like he won 7 of his first nine against them.
- 37:02[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
- 37:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's great.
- 37:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
- 37:05[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yes, eight of his first 11 because then they lost one and they won the next one.
- 37:10[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, like, I know there was a point where I think love he had a four year winning streak at Lambo or something like that.
- 37:17[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe five.
- 37:18[SPEAKER_01]: I think 1 and 0 4, 5, 0 6.
- 37:21[SPEAKER_01]: They won an 0 7 at Green Bay and an 0 8.
- 37:25[SPEAKER_01]: They lost.
- 37:26[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 37:26[SPEAKER_01]: So 0 4 to 0 7 for your winning streak at Lambo.
- 37:29[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be cool to start something like that again.
- 37:31[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
- 37:33[SPEAKER_01]: We could have beat him at Lambo last year, you know, came down to the final play.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_01]: The only time they beat us the year before, I came down to the field goal.
- 37:40[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we are really close to having swept them for three years in a row.
- 37:44[SPEAKER_01]: Like this could be the three, this would be the third year.
- 37:47[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I feel like it's shifting.
- 37:50[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this is a game where you can really let them know that this is where this rivalry stands right now in front of their home fans.
- 37:59[SPEAKER_01]: If we blow them out,
- 38:03[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
- 38:04[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man.
- 38:05[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the, you know, the material for all the sports writers out there is going to write itself, you know, in that locker room.
- 38:14[SPEAKER_00]: You already had Tucker craft.
- 38:15[SPEAKER_00]: You see that a couple weeks back talking about the booze.
- 38:18[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a Falcons game about the booze because they played so trashy and he got onto the fans.
- 38:23[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's going to be worse than that, you know, especially after he made comments about the fans, especially against the bears, right?
- 38:32[SPEAKER_00]: Like.
- 38:33[SPEAKER_00]: They have all the reasons too, but, you know, how's it going to play out?
- 38:38[SPEAKER_00]: What I was hoping, man, the side note, I was hoping that they brought in Calil Mac this week.
- 38:43[SPEAKER_00]: So he had another first game against, remember his first game against what has the bear was against the, the packers in Lambo field, and that would have been super cool.
- 38:54[SPEAKER_00]: I guess they still could do it, you know, he's going to be a limited snap guy anyway, but he can rush a quarterback in a sub-package, you know, no problem.
- 39:02[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, this is this should go down as a as a beat down.
- 39:06[SPEAKER_00]: And I know a win as a win.
- 39:07[SPEAKER_00]: I know that.
- 39:08[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but but they are owed a good old fashion has weapon.
- 39:14[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope that's what they get.
- 39:17[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to bring up the Killio Mac thing.
- 39:18[SPEAKER_01]: So you're on the train of the bear should make the trade.
- 39:23[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think he's kind of a no-brainer.
- 39:27[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's so much good vibes between Kaleo Mac and Chicago still.
- 39:31[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's got unfinished business, like he basically left on the double-doinck, right?
- 39:37[SPEAKER_00]: Like we had, that was our last contending team.
- 39:41[SPEAKER_00]: And he was a leader on that team.
- 39:43[SPEAKER_00]: And
- 39:44[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can't go out like that.
- 39:46[SPEAKER_00]: He's still playing some really good ball.
- 39:48[SPEAKER_00]: We need help rushing the passer.
- 39:50[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, we're doing better than we thought.
- 39:52[SPEAKER_00]: But you can never have too many past wrestlers.
- 39:56[SPEAKER_00]: And he's one of those guys.
- 39:57[SPEAKER_00]: He's a Hall of Fame, first ballot Hall of Fame type guy.
- 40:00[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still playing at a high level.
- 40:03[SPEAKER_00]: You know, get him in there to rotate, keep these guys fresh.
- 40:06[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that would be such a huge addition.
- 40:09[SPEAKER_00]: Now, my favorite guy for our defense would be Jeffrey Simmons.
- 40:13[SPEAKER_00]: He talked about him on the show before, but I think he's gonna cost too much.
- 40:17[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Mac would come, he'd be like a fourth fifth six round pick even, you know, like he's gonna cost nothing for a terrible charger squad to get him off the books, bring him back to Chicago
- 40:32[SPEAKER_00]: And let him join another defense with playmakers at every level and finish what he started.
- 40:38[SPEAKER_00]: Return to the Mac finally, you know, sounds true.
- 40:43[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I personally think that should definitely happen, you know, if nothing else that should happen.
- 40:51[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
- 40:52[SPEAKER_01]: I'm 100% agree.
- 40:53[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's it's not going to be a high price, but he could really add to that past rush, especially just bringing him in in a rotation, you know, he's he's he's older, but he still gets after the quarterback like he would be a big addition to this team.
- 41:07[SPEAKER_01]: And like you said,
- 41:08[SPEAKER_01]: he absolutely revered his time in Chicago.
- 41:11[SPEAKER_01]: He gets asked about it all the time still and you can tell by the way answers the questions how much love's being a bear.
- 41:17[SPEAKER_01]: So if he could come back here at the tail end of his career and would be like the ultimate way.
- 41:26[SPEAKER_01]: You know, as a defensive guy, as a defensive superstar, a future Hall of Famer like you said to win a Super Bowl with the Chicago Bears and like go down as a bear's Super Bowl champion and part of a Chicago Bears defense like that's the kind of stuff people dream about because of the lineage of 85 bears and everything.
- 41:43[SPEAKER_01]: That would be sweet man.
- 41:45[SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely think that they should do it.
- 41:47[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that that a mid-round draft pick like that is not too high of a price to bring him home.
- 41:51[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you know, there's other contending teams that are going to probably make in the call to, you know, but I think he would want to be a bear and yeah at this point in his career.
- 42:00[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be ring chasing and the bears legit have a shot at winning a ring.
- 42:04[SPEAKER_01]: So why not?
- 42:05[SPEAKER_00]: And he's got a no trade clause so any team that he goes to he's got to sign off on and so there's going to be no other team that he wants to be, you know, I can't think of one.
- 42:14[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe like the seahawks, right?
- 42:17[SPEAKER_00]: Like, but at that point, you're talking about maybe the Rams playing with with miles and with Aaron Donald, but
- 42:24[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he loved his time in Chicago.
- 42:27[SPEAKER_00]: He loves the city of Chicago.
- 42:29[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we've got the leg up there.
- 42:30[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like it's greater than a 50% chance he ends up in Chicago.
- 42:37[SPEAKER_00]: agreed, you know, like it just makes too much sense.
- 42:40[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about it what a year to ago about how like maybe they'd bring him back and free agency and ended up resigning out there.
- 42:47[SPEAKER_01]: But, man, yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
- 42:49[SPEAKER_01]: And look, I showed this off on the Bears by 7th show the other night.
- 42:52[SPEAKER_01]: It's still sitting here because it's in my office, but I have a little canvas print, bro, of myself wearing a collule match.
- 42:59[SPEAKER_01]: You see, at the 2019 Bears Vikings game, which coincidentally enough was the last time the Bears beat the Vikings.
- 43:06[SPEAKER_01]: with my dad right there by the field.
- 43:08[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, those 2019, I got the Mac jersey I have, has that 100 year anniversary passed on it.
- 43:14[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I would love to get this out of the closet.
- 43:16[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, selfishly get some more use out of it.
- 43:19[SPEAKER_01]: But also, I do think it would be a solid addition to the team.
- 43:22[SPEAKER_01]: I think it would really add to the defense.
- 43:25[SPEAKER_01]: And so, make it happen, Ryan pulls.
- 43:27[SPEAKER_01]: It makes all the sense in the world.
- 43:28[SPEAKER_01]: This seems like a no-brainer.
- 43:31[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now, what's it?
- 43:32[SPEAKER_00]: What's it Ryan pulls is one of his first moves
- 43:37[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 43:37[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds right.
- 43:39[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like it was.
- 43:41[SPEAKER_00]: It was, um, it was getting even a Mac, getting Quinn around the same time.
- 43:47[SPEAKER_00]: So, yes, the 22.
- 43:50[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was, man.
- 43:51[SPEAKER_01]: That 2021 was the last year that, um, Mac played for the bear.
- 43:55[SPEAKER_01]: So, the move would have come and yeah, the last of the year.
- 43:57[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he's, I feel like he started.
- 44:00[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he didn't
- 44:06[SPEAKER_00]: 20 21.
- 44:08[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 44:09[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess it was the off season.
- 44:12[SPEAKER_01]: No, that makes sense, though, because polls would have taken over in the 2022 off season.
- 44:16[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be going into the 2022 season.
- 44:18[SPEAKER_01]: So within right after Mac ended his last full year in Chicago.
- 44:22[SPEAKER_01]: So right.
- 44:23[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 44:24[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
- 44:25[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he, I mean, he went on to make the pro ball, you know, multiple times, even in L.A. Yeah.
- 44:34[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, he's, I guess that he's, we talked about it.
- 44:38[SPEAKER_00]: He's still still stuck.
- 44:41[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
- 44:43[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, here it is.
- 44:44[SPEAKER_01]: It happened in March 2022.
- 44:46[SPEAKER_01]: Paul's first significant move with the bears, is trading Pro Bowl linebacker Khalil Mack and his salary cap hit to the Los Angeles Chargers for a second round pick in the 22 draft and a six round pick in the 23 draft.
- 45:00[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 45:00[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how cool would that be for for polls to then welcome him back in Chicago, right?
- 45:05[SPEAKER_00]: Like, the makes too much sense.
- 45:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's make it happen.
- 45:10[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be exciting.
- 45:11[SPEAKER_01]: The fans would be behind it.
- 45:13[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there'd be some energy and let's do it.
- 45:15[SPEAKER_01]: Makes all the sense.
- 45:16[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 45:17[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe next week we'll be talking about it.
- 45:19[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?
- 45:19[SPEAKER_00]: With your jerseys, that'd be so cool to see up.
- 45:22[SPEAKER_00]: I'll definitely wear it if that happens by next Wednesday.
- 45:24[SPEAKER_00]: So,
- 45:26[SPEAKER_01]: All right, man.
- 45:26[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to call it quits for the night.
- 45:29[SPEAKER_01]: This has been a fun show.
- 45:31[SPEAKER_01]: And we're really looking forward to Sunday at noon up at Lambo Field.
- 45:35[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll be talking about it with all of you next Wednesday night.
- 45:39[SPEAKER_01]: Brian, any parting words, my friend.
- 45:42[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for all the new followers.
- 45:43[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do more giveaways like this.
- 45:47[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, the the nature of this business is just to
- 45:54[SPEAKER_00]: hang out with some buddies and talks and bears ball.
- 45:57[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope you enjoyed it.
- 45:58[SPEAKER_00]: If you have questions, shout them out to us and look forward to talking about the the win next week is going to be awesome.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so you can find our writing at windycitygridiron.com, of course, and always follow all the shows here in the second city gridiron channel.
- 46:16[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube, all the podcast feeds as well.
- 46:21[SPEAKER_01]: Like Brian said, follow us on social media.
- 46:23[SPEAKER_01]: The show has a page at bears overbears.
- 46:25[SPEAKER_01]: and you can follow us just our first and last name on twitter.com.
- 46:29[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on instagram as well.
- 46:30[SPEAKER_01]: And you can also find me second bear show bears by seven.
- 46:33[SPEAKER_01]: That's available on a whole different feed.
- 46:35[SPEAKER_01]: So look up bears by seven either on youtube or your favorite podcasting feed.
- 46:40[SPEAKER_01]: And you can hear from me a couple of times a week.
- 46:43[SPEAKER_01]: We got to get Brian as a guest over on bears by seven pretty soon here too.
- 46:46[SPEAKER_01]: I will run that by Kevin Kadek.
- 46:48[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 46:48[SPEAKER_00]: And last thing.
- 46:50[SPEAKER_00]: So
- 46:53[SPEAKER_00]: Four full seasons in Chicago.
- 46:56[SPEAKER_00]: He's played four full seasons in LA.
- 46:59[SPEAKER_00]: This is his fifth season in LA.
- 47:01[SPEAKER_00]: So if we bring him back before halfway point, he will have played most of his career in Chicago.
- 47:09[SPEAKER_01]: That's wild.
- 47:11[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't, I would not have guessed that it just feels when I think about Khalil Mack, I just think of him as a raider, probably just because that's, you know, where it started.
- 47:17[SPEAKER_01]: That's where he's drafted.
- 47:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 47:19[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 47:19[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
- 47:20[SPEAKER_00]: But that would be wild.
- 47:21[SPEAKER_00]: He's been in LA for so long.
- 47:23[SPEAKER_00]: But this is fifth year.
- 47:25[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 47:26[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
- 47:27[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 47:27[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 47:28[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he could be a majority of his career Chicago bear.
- 47:31[SPEAKER_01]: It should happen.
- 47:31[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 47:32[SPEAKER_00]: It shouldn't happen.
- 47:32[SPEAKER_00]: It shouldn't happen.
- 47:33[SPEAKER_00]: Can't wait to see it happen.
- 47:35[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
- 47:36[SPEAKER_01]: All right guys, we will talk to you again next Wednesday night take care drink a beer cheer on the bears as they get that victory.
- 47:44[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope over the Green Bay Packers and Sunday afternoon and bear down.
- 47:47[SPEAKER_00]: See FGB FGB FGB