Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Territory runner Allirra Jennings, who’ll soon become the first Aboriginal woman to run all of the world’s major marathons shares her story
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now, I love hearing about territorians that are doing great things.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Anybody that listens to the show knows that.
- 0:06Speaker 1: But I particularly love hearing about people running, playing different sports,
- 0:11Speaker 1: all sorts.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Of stuff, no matter what it is.
- 0:14Speaker 1: If you know somebody that's doing something incredible, please do
- 0:17Speaker 1: make sure that you make me aware of it.
- 0:19Speaker 2: And well.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Right now joining me in the studio is a woman
- 0:24Speaker 1: who is set to become the first Aboriginal woman to
- 0:27Speaker 1: complete all six major marathons. So I'm talking Boston, New York, Chicago, Berlin,
- 0:35Speaker 1: Tokyo and London, and she is a local girl.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Her name is Aleira Jennings. Good morning to you.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming in and having a
- 0:46Speaker 1: chat with me this morning.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Now, I love a run, but I've never run a
- 0:51Speaker 1: marathon and I'm very keen to try and do one
- 0:54Speaker 1: this year. So when I heard that you are set
- 0:57Speaker 1: to run, well, you're seventh, but you're sixth major marathon,
- 1:02Speaker 1: I thought I need to find out more about this.
- 1:06Speaker 3: Where definitely a rare breed runner.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's like breaking through this pain barrier. I
- 1:12Speaker 1: think that most people, just you know, I probably don't
- 1:15Speaker 1: ever want to have to do.
- 1:17Speaker 4: You know what my trick is, Katie, I just keep
- 1:20Speaker 4: on running until something else starts hurting.
- 1:23Speaker 1: You know. I was talking to a friend of mine
- 1:26Speaker 1: who does a lot of sort of longer distance triathlons,
- 1:29Speaker 1: and she said to me that someone had told her
- 1:32Speaker 1: you're not living unless you wake up in something sore
- 1:34Speaker 1: in the morning.
- 1:35Speaker 3: That's very true.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Yeah, Alia, tell me, how did you start running?
- 1:42Speaker 3: I wasn't always a runner.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:45Speaker 4: I had a little bit of a kick in the guts.
- 1:49Speaker 4: Ten years ago I lost my grandma to diabetes. Unfortunately,
- 1:53Speaker 4: I was in the hospital with her when she was
- 1:57Speaker 4: told that she was going into hospice, and I was
- 2:02Speaker 4: there when she begged and bartered for her life, And
- 2:05Speaker 4: it was a kick in the guts to me, because
- 2:08Speaker 4: I was almost one hundred and ten kilos weighing down
- 2:12Speaker 4: the end of her bed and just hearing her and
- 2:17Speaker 4: fighting for her life, and knowing that I was just
- 2:21Speaker 4: blowing mine away was a real kick in the guts.
- 2:25Speaker 4: And I had to have a good look at myself,
- 2:27Speaker 4: and I decided from then on not to waste my
- 2:31Speaker 4: health and to use my body to do great things.
- 2:38Speaker 4: And running just came naturally yeah, I kind of fell
- 2:41Speaker 4: into it by accident.
- 2:43Speaker 2: It's incredible.
- 2:45Speaker 1: It is absolutely incredible to go from that point, you know,
- 2:48Speaker 1: we're like you'd seen one hundred and ten kilos and
- 2:52Speaker 1: hearing what your grandma was going through, and then to
- 2:56Speaker 1: get to the point where you're not only running, but
- 2:58Speaker 1: you're running marathons. I mean, how did you sort of
- 3:01Speaker 1: make that massive step.
- 3:03Speaker 3: To start off with?
- 3:04Speaker 4: I could literally only shuffle how don't use the word
- 3:09Speaker 4: shuffle it.
- 3:09Speaker 3: It definitely wasn't a run fifty meters.
- 3:13Speaker 4: I lived out in Catherine at the time, and there's
- 3:17Speaker 4: power poles that I would run along, like along the
- 3:20Speaker 4: pathway and back then I thought that the power poles
- 3:23Speaker 4: were two hundred meters apart, so I would run from
- 3:26Speaker 4: one to half way thinking that it was one hundred
- 3:29Speaker 4: meters but.
- 3:32Speaker 3: Fifty meters.
- 3:34Speaker 4: But from there I just kept on going, kept on training,
- 3:40Speaker 4: kept on running. The weight was coming off, naturally, cleaned
- 3:44Speaker 4: up my diet, and just found that I had a
- 3:48Speaker 4: real knack for running long distance.
- 3:51Speaker 1: And then when did you decide, Okay, I'm going to
- 3:54Speaker 1: go from running between power poles to running a bloody marathon.
- 3:59Speaker 4: This also had and by accident, I was up visiting
- 4:03Speaker 4: my dad in Darwin, and his place in malacc is
- 4:08Speaker 4: about a kilometer away from North Lakes.
- 4:10Speaker 3: So I'd woken up early.
- 4:13Speaker 4: Everyone else in the house was asleep, and I said, oh,
- 4:16Speaker 4: I'm going to be a good daughter and go and
- 4:18Speaker 4: get my daddy's iced coffee and anti Newesa love it
- 4:23Speaker 4: breakfast champions, yea.
- 4:25Speaker 3: The breakfast. There's a territory and breakfast.
- 4:28Speaker 4: And so I went for my little shuffle up to
- 4:31Speaker 4: North Lakes. And I got there and I felt quite nice,
- 4:34Speaker 4: felt good, and I said, I'll just keep on running
- 4:39Speaker 4: to the next set of lights, you know, And off
- 4:43Speaker 4: I trotted, and then I got down to that was
- 4:47Speaker 4: Marara lights. Yeah, and so I went, I'll just run
- 4:51Speaker 4: to the airport lights. And then off I went. And
- 4:53Speaker 4: I was doing really good, which was because it was
- 4:57Speaker 4: mostly downhill. Yeah, And I got to the airport lights
- 5:02Speaker 4: and I went, ah, you know so much family I
- 5:05Speaker 4: have at the cemetery there, so I'll just run past
- 5:09Speaker 4: and you know, pay my respects. And so I ran
- 5:13Speaker 4: past there and I went, you know what, I'll just
- 5:19Speaker 4: keep on running to bag It road.
- 5:21Speaker 2: How incredible. And then did you think, oh, no, I've
- 5:24Speaker 2: got to get home.
- 5:25Speaker 4: Now oh yeah, yeah, definitely, I got to bag it road.
- 5:28Speaker 4: I stopped because I hadn't stopped running. I just kept
- 5:31Speaker 4: on shuffling along. As soon as I stopped, every single
- 5:34Speaker 4: muscle in my body seized.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like the tin man. Oh.
- 5:40Speaker 4: And then I realized that I hadn't told anyone where
- 5:43Speaker 4: I was going. Laura hadn't taken my mobile with me,
- 5:46Speaker 4: so it was a bit of a long walk run
- 5:52Speaker 4: back home.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:53Speaker 4: So I ended up driving the distance and it turned
- 5:56Speaker 4: out to be twelve kilometers.
- 6:00Speaker 3: So a bit before that, after the.
- 6:03Speaker 4: Run, I'd kind of stumbled into the house, into my
- 6:05Speaker 4: dad's house, no ant news the wives, and must have
- 6:11Speaker 4: looked like death because my dad goes to.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Me, where did you just go?
- 6:15Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 6:16Speaker 3: And I was so out of breath.
- 6:17Speaker 2: I was I just ran up to bag a road.
- 6:20Speaker 4: And then I said at that moment, I said how
- 6:26Speaker 4: many kilometers in a marathon?
- 6:28Speaker 2: Dad?
- 6:29Speaker 3: And he said forty two?
- 6:30Speaker 4: Love, And I guess just from there, I knew if
- 6:34Speaker 4: I could do that distance with no program, no training coach.
- 6:39Speaker 4: I knew that I could do a marathon.
- 6:42Speaker 2: How incredible.
- 6:43Speaker 1: I just think it's wonderful that you had the mental
- 6:45Speaker 1: strength to be able to do that as well, and
- 6:47Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, to really turn your
- 6:50Speaker 1: life around at that pivotal moment as well with your grandma,
- 6:53Speaker 1: because not everybody can do that. Not everybody has got
- 6:56Speaker 1: that strength of mind to be able to go all.
- 6:59Speaker 1: I've got to make some life changes here, and not
- 7:01Speaker 1: only make some life changes, but make really drastic and
- 7:05Speaker 1: dramatic changes where you're kicking their massive goals.
- 7:09Speaker 2: You know, you've got four kids.
- 7:11Speaker 1: They must look at you and think, well, look at
- 7:12Speaker 1: my mum, that's incredible.
- 7:15Speaker 3: I don't think they're at that stage yet.
- 7:17Speaker 4: Kids always think that their parents embarrassing.
- 7:22Speaker 2: I've got to know, I know what they're like.
- 7:25Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think it came down to doing I
- 7:32Speaker 4: don't like doing things for myself. I like doing things
- 7:35Speaker 4: for my family, for my family, name for you know,
- 7:40Speaker 4: for the better of my children their health improving. So
- 7:44Speaker 4: to do it for her and I'm really stoked to
- 7:47Speaker 4: get my six star on her tenth year.
- 7:51Speaker 3: So since her passing, so all in her honor.
- 7:55Speaker 1: So tell me as well, you know what has it
- 7:57Speaker 1: been like for you over the last ten years to
- 8:00Speaker 1: your life around in terms of your health to that
- 8:02Speaker 1: degree you are raising you know, you're raising children as well,
- 8:07Speaker 1: trying to get all that training done and competing in
- 8:10Speaker 1: these massive races that do have a lot of They
- 8:14Speaker 1: do cause a lot of stress to your body too.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely.
- 8:18Speaker 4: I I have pairing my training in with the kids
- 8:23Speaker 4: when they're training, so even if it's three thirty in
- 8:26Speaker 4: the afternoon, you'll see me doing laps around Marara. And
- 8:31Speaker 4: I have the support and love of my husband's family
- 8:35Speaker 4: and my family as.
- 8:37Speaker 3: Well, so it does take a village.
- 8:40Speaker 4: I have unfortunately missed birthdays being away, missing my kid's birthdays,
- 8:47Speaker 4: but yeah, I have the love.
- 8:49Speaker 3: And support of my family and friends.
- 8:51Speaker 1: I just reckon, it's wonderful. Tell me which marathon has
- 8:55Speaker 1: been the hardest.
- 8:57Speaker 4: The hardest was definitely Chicago. I was quite sick in
- 9:04Speaker 4: the lead up, so I didn't have a lot of training,
- 9:06Speaker 4: and I'd come off the back of having a really
- 9:09Speaker 4: nasty cold. The hardest part about it mentally was that
- 9:14Speaker 4: the course started in the center of town, and my
- 9:17Speaker 4: hotel was in the center of town, and the course
- 9:22Speaker 4: was a sloppy eight I'll call it a sloppy eight.
- 9:26Speaker 4: So at the twenty one kilometer mark I was dying
- 9:30Speaker 4: quite early in the race for listeners who don't know,
- 9:34Speaker 4: a marathon is forty two kilometers. So I came back
- 9:37Speaker 4: around at twenty one kilometers and I could see my.
- 9:41Speaker 3: Hotel were like, what to stop? That was really tough.
- 9:48Speaker 4: It was cold, it was windy, I was really undertrained,
- 9:54Speaker 4: and I really wanted to go and have a hot
- 9:56Speaker 4: bath and a hot chocolate.
- 10:00Speaker 3: I just had to.
- 10:01Speaker 4: Play mind games tricks on my mind and just say, well,
- 10:06Speaker 4: if I run for another ten kilometers, then I just
- 10:11Speaker 4: have to run back back home, which ends up being
- 10:14Speaker 4: another twenty one kilometers.
- 10:15Speaker 3: But you just have to trick your brain.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Yeah, what's been the funnest marathon or the most memorable
- 10:22Speaker 1: New York?
- 10:23Speaker 3: Hands down New York.
- 10:25Speaker 4: Yeah. I've run New York twice in twenty fourteen and
- 10:28Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. And the crowd and it's just amazing.
- 10:34Speaker 3: It is amazing.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like sixt deep on both sides and everyone's
- 10:38Speaker 4: just cheering.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be absolutely incredible.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Now tell me as well.
- 10:44Speaker 1: I know, like I know that there must be some
- 10:47Speaker 1: funny things that you see along the way. There must
- 10:50Speaker 1: be some crazy stuff really that you see when you're
- 10:52Speaker 1: part of a marathon. But also some really inspiring people.
- 10:55Speaker 3: Oh yes, one hundred percent.
- 10:58Speaker 4: I have been overtaken while running by people with prosthetic legs.
- 11:05Speaker 4: And I actually I've seen this guy running a few times.
- 11:10Speaker 4: He's an American lad and he is blind, so he's
- 11:13Speaker 4: tethered to another runner who can see, and they he
- 11:19Speaker 4: runs tethered to his guide, but he can't see a thing.
- 11:23Speaker 4: And I've seen him a few marathons.
- 11:27Speaker 3: Now I think he's collecting his six stuffs. Yeah.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Wow.
- 11:31Speaker 4: But it's just amazing because I think if all of
- 11:34Speaker 4: the excuses that I have of not to train, but
- 11:38Speaker 4: all of my training, I can get done by myself.
- 11:40Speaker 4: Imagine having to imagine being blind and having to rely
- 11:45Speaker 4: on somebody else.
- 11:46Speaker 1: To guide your spot on absolutely spot on. Now tell
- 11:50Speaker 1: me you know this is going to be well, it's
- 11:53Speaker 1: going to be your seventh marathon, but it's just sixth
- 11:56Speaker 1: major marathon. And it means, as we've discussed which that
- 12:00Speaker 1: you are going to get well, you're going to complete
- 12:03Speaker 1: your six stars. There's only one hundred and three people
- 12:07Speaker 1: who have them that are women in Australia.
- 12:09Speaker 3: In Australia, Australian women, and you will.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Be the first Aboriginal woman, Yes, to do this. How
- 12:15Speaker 1: proud does that make you feel? Oh?
- 12:17Speaker 4: Very proud, very proud. Shout out to my Kumarican and
- 12:20Speaker 4: GERINGI mo.
- 12:22Speaker 1: I reckon, it's awesome. I just think it's an incredible
- 12:25Speaker 1: thing to do. And there's another territory and on that
- 12:28Speaker 1: list as well, isn't there?
- 12:29Speaker 3: Yes?
- 12:30Speaker 4: So Charlie Maher is the first Indigenous Australian male who
- 12:35Speaker 4: has run all six He collected his six star in
- 12:39Speaker 4: London and I was lucky enough to see him.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Now for you, you know, it is such a proud moment,
- 12:46Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I know that you also want to
- 12:49Speaker 1: You want to do it to honor your grandma, but
- 12:51Speaker 1: also to make your pop proud.
- 12:54Speaker 4: Oh yeah, my granddad. My granddad's Vick Ludwig. Yeah, so
- 12:58Speaker 4: he's a little bit of an icon.
- 13:00Speaker 3: I'm wonderful.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Yeah, and he and what do you reckon? What's he
- 13:04Speaker 1: thinking about all of this?
- 13:05Speaker 4: Oh? I have breakfast with him on Tuesday mornings and
- 13:09Speaker 4: he loves I love listening to his stories and he
- 13:12Speaker 4: loves hearing of where I'm going next. And yeah, he says,
- 13:18Speaker 4: my my grandma had I've got my running genes from
- 13:22Speaker 4: my grandma. But I do think it's the I do
- 13:25Speaker 4: think it's a good mix, A good mix.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Oh, Alira, It's so wonderful to hear from you.
- 13:30Speaker 1: I think it's such a wonderful thing that you're doing,
- 13:32Speaker 1: and you should be so proud of yourself, and you know,
- 13:35Speaker 1: the way that really you've been able to do this
- 13:38Speaker 1: over the last ten years is incredible stuff.
- 13:41Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you coming into the studio and
- 13:44Speaker 2: having a chat with us this morning. Please let us
- 13:46Speaker 2: know how it goes.
- 13:47Speaker 3: Definitely well.
- 13:48Speaker 2: We're very keen to see some photos and hear some more.
- 13:51Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm more on Instagram if anyone wants
- 13:54Speaker 4: to follow, it's Aleira Underscore runs Ironic.
- 14:00Speaker 3: I love it.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Well, I'll check it out. It is great to speak
- 14:04Speaker 2: to you this morning. Thank you so much for coming
- 14:07Speaker 2: into the studio for a chat.
- 14:08Speaker 3: Thank you, Katie, thank you