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Turning Pain Into Passion with Liam Winn · Teach Me Something Hosted By DJ Prostyle & Penny Dellas

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? This is DJ pro Style.
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  Speaker 2: And this is Pennydellas.
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  Speaker 1: And this is teach Me Something.
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  Speaker 2: Brought to you by Berkeley College.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we are back
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  Speaker 3: with another one.
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  Speaker 1: This is teach Me.
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  Speaker 3: Something Special editionsented by Berkeley College.
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  Speaker 1: We actually DJ Prostyle and Pennydallas. What's up.
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  Speaker 2: We are uberly excited today because we have a special
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  Speaker 2: guest here. He wanted to redeem himself for taking vacation
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  Speaker 2: during our Christmas episode. We have the one, the only
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  Speaker 2: kind of a v le I'm with, Yes, yes, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like that was like the price is right, we
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  Speaker 2: need the little music, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: I can't believe that you guys just gave me like
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  Speaker 4: a Bruce Buffer intro. You guys know that, like he
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  Speaker 4: only does that for like very special people, the one,
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  Speaker 4: the only Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay here, everybody, no, no, I'm grateful.
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  Speaker 2: So we didn't have a guest, so we decided to
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  Speaker 2: bring Liam onto the episode.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to point out that in our last
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  Speaker 3: so on our last episode of Ronic you gotta check
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  Speaker 3: out the last episode, right, it was all about fashion.
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  Speaker 3: She'd be totally upset with the way Penny showed up today.
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  Speaker 3: Really anyway, let's just keep it going.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, I'm realizing. I'm realizing that when we
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  Speaker 2: have team episodes, the disrespect that is thrown my way
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  Speaker 2: in the shade.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what, because I'm being a here because
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  Speaker 3: you have a real fire fire shirt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: And someone else here got some and decided.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know today was they.
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  Speaker 2: Wanted to save it for a special occasion.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that there was going to be a whole
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  Speaker 3: day that we were supposed to match them or something.
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  Speaker 2: I know we're supposed to twin all right, the next episode.
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  Speaker 4: I got to say, though, the banter definitely hits like
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  Speaker 4: a new level when you guys do the team episodes
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  Speaker 4: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Like we haven't even talked to you. We've just been
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  Speaker 1: going at it the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna have to cut all this out anyways, Tell.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody watching and listening right now, what exactly your role
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  Speaker 3: is here at IHEARTM.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm a video for iHeart. I work with pretty
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  Speaker 4: much every single station everyone. Yeah, I don't think that
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  Speaker 4: there's a station I haven't worked with yet, at least
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  Speaker 4: to my knowledge. Yeah, so I run Yeah, pretty much
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  Speaker 4: just video. I don't have a favorite. We're we're not
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  Speaker 4: We're not going to get the favorite. Pressure sitting right here,
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  Speaker 4: done some good work, absolutely prior to Berkeley.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, but Liam's like, your show's on too late. I
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  Speaker 3: can't stay literally we have like what time? Never mind, I've.
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  Speaker 2: Been here for pro show and halfway through I'm like
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  Speaker 2: one eye open.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so old, that's really the answer, but go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, So I worked with Yeah, I mean pretty
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  Speaker 4: much every single show. I don't I don't think that
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  Speaker 4: there isn't a show nationally syndicated regular in general that
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  Speaker 4: I haven't touched so far yet, whether it's coverage or
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  Speaker 4: just yeah, just finding myself to be the right man
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  Speaker 4: for the job.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: You are so talented and you're so fun to work with.
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  Speaker 2: And I know we have a lot of bands are
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  Speaker 2: off camera and all of that, but you really are talented.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Liam just launched his own website, and I was very
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  Speaker 2: important to website.
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  Speaker 4: By the website, it is a Liamwynn dot com, so
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  Speaker 4: l I a m w i n n dot com.
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  Speaker 1: And when people go there, you know, what can they expect?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, the intention was really just to get my work
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  Speaker 4: out there. I didn't really have I don't even have
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  Speaker 4: like a contact me section. I really don't have the
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  Speaker 4: bandwidth for it right now. But I know that I
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  Speaker 4: needed to get it out there somehow, and I felt like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, social media just isn't like the only avenue
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  Speaker 4: to take these things. So I wanted to have like
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  Speaker 4: a proper space for it to all live. And I've
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  Speaker 4: done a lot of work here, and I've done a
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  Speaker 4: lot of work prior to being here as a freelancer,
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I think it was just it was well
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  Speaker 4: beyond time to be able to get that kind of
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  Speaker 4: stuff out there.
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  Speaker 2: I love that you said just press plan, let me
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  Speaker 2: do it and spoke about it and you were like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about it for a month and I
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  Speaker 2: just said, let me just throw it out there. And
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  Speaker 2: sometimes we are our largest obstacle. We overthink things. We
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  Speaker 2: don't want to put it out if it's not perfect,
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  Speaker 2: and you don't have to be perfect. Imperfection it's what
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  Speaker 2: gets to the consumer base. So just put it out
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  Speaker 2: there and be authentic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, imposter syndrome is like such a crutch
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  Speaker 4: for a lot of like creators.
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  Speaker 1: What is it what is it called imposters?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so just in a nutshell, it just feels like
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  Speaker 4: you're never doing enough kind of thing, even when you're
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  Speaker 4: working with like the biggest of brands or whatever the
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  Speaker 4: case may be. Like it's something that every single creator faces,
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  Speaker 4: like you just never feel like you've done enough because
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you know, once that
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  Speaker 4: project's done, the project's done. Now you got to find
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  Speaker 4: the next one. So and that was like my biggest
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  Speaker 4: hurdle when it came to freelancing. It was just like
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't do the chase anymore. It was just it
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  Speaker 4: was just too much work and I needed something stable,
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  Speaker 4: and luckily I found myself here.
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  Speaker 3: So so being that you're here, let's backtrack, right, how did
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  Speaker 3: you get here? Let's let's go back to look what
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  Speaker 3: got you into this? Oh that's a crazy I don't
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  Speaker 3: mean into iHeart, I mean into this field, into recording,
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  Speaker 3: into everything you do.
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  Speaker 1: That's a crazy that's a crazy story. We have time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: crazy stories do good? Liam, You know this, you know
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  Speaker 1: you you make a great you make a great point.
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  Speaker 1: So no, so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I guess this starts pretty much at the
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  Speaker 4: beginning of my college career. Uh, So, I was a
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  Speaker 4: collegiate athlete. I played baseball, and I had this lingering
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  Speaker 4: ankle issue when I was in when I was in
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  Speaker 4: high school that never really got taken care of the
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  Speaker 4: right way, like the trainers back there, like they did not.
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  Speaker 1: It did not help me out. And he says this
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  Speaker 1: as I'm wearing like a right time, it could be perfect.
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  Speaker 2: It couldn't be the better part of today complaining about
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  Speaker 2: his ankle.
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  Speaker 3: I have had a lingering ankle injury that I've never
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  Speaker 3: taken care of ever. But later I'm wearing, he's young,
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  Speaker 3: don't grow up anyway, just move on.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully this inspires you.
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  Speaker 3: It inspires me to what I already have a boot
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  Speaker 3: on my cat man.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Okay, So.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had this lingering ankle issue just from
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  Speaker 4: playing basketball and I mean pretty much every sport in
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  Speaker 4: high school. And when I got to the college scene
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  Speaker 4: and I started playing collegiate uh baseball, Like the workload
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  Speaker 4: was just really really taxing on my body, and I
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  Speaker 4: ended up blowing out my ankle like completely, but I
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  Speaker 4: still had to travel with the team.
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  Speaker 1: There wasn't like an excuse for that.
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  Speaker 4: And even as a freshman like I was a leader
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  Speaker 4: on that team, and a lot of guys looked up
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  Speaker 4: to me, even some people that were older than me,
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  Speaker 4: just because I like to try and carry myself in
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  Speaker 4: a certain kind of way, with a certain kind of cadence,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of guys like to follow in line
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  Speaker 4: with that.
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  Speaker 1: So I felt like I still needed to be around.
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  Speaker 1: And so up until I.
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  Speaker 4: Had the surgery, which is about two months or break
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  Speaker 4: in between, I was shooting photo. Like the the athletic
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  Speaker 4: director gave me a camera. It was nothing special, but
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  Speaker 4: they needed somebody to get some type of content for
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  Speaker 4: the for the team, and it was a brand new
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  Speaker 4: baseball team, so they needed something to get out there
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  Speaker 4: just you know kind of I feel like, more so
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  Speaker 4: to just make sure that their investment was worth it
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  Speaker 4: to create this team. And they had this massive gym
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  Speaker 4: that they built and all that stuff whatever, and so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they handed me a camera and I would go on
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  Speaker 4: the road with them and I shot photo. And my
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  Speaker 4: dad was actually a photographer, so I think that that
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  Speaker 4: kind of just like trained my eye, but subconsciously, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't like something that was in the forefront of
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  Speaker 4: my mind. But I played on a bunch of different
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  Speaker 4: college I mean I played on a bunch of different
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  Speaker 4: baseball teams when I was younger basketball teams, and so
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  Speaker 4: I was delivering all these photos to all my friends
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  Speaker 4: and stuff like that who were playing on the team.
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  Speaker 4: And so just from seeing, you know, thousands of photos
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  Speaker 4: that he took, I think it just kind of developed
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  Speaker 4: this eye, like I said, subconsciously. And then fast forward
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  Speaker 4: a little bit, I left. I ended up leaving that
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  Speaker 4: school when I got surgery. I went to community college.
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  Speaker 4: During my rehab, I probably was off for about two
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  Speaker 4: semesters or so, so I was about a year behind
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  Speaker 4: and that just kind of changed my mentality with how
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to kind of approach life from that point on.
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  Speaker 4: And so once I went to community college, I was
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  Speaker 4: going with a friend of mine and we both just
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  Speaker 4: well actually, and all kudos to him, because he's really
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  Speaker 4: the one that kept me on college, like the college route.
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  Speaker 1: Joe.
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  Speaker 4: He wanted to go to Sunny Cortland, and I was
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  Speaker 4: just like, I'll go with you, sure, why not? I
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  Speaker 4: didn't really have any direction like college. Really, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think it really was for me. But because I had
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  Speaker 4: like a backbone with me in a place where I
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  Speaker 4: really didn't have. He kind of kept me on that line.
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  Speaker 4: And then we went to Courtland together and then I
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  Speaker 4: shot for the media team out there, so I was
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  Speaker 4: doing photo video for Kente events. I shot for all
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  Speaker 4: the sports teams out there. And then there was a
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  Speaker 4: professor I was working really close with. Her name is
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  Speaker 4: doctor K, and she introduced me to the producer of
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  Speaker 4: A Way Up with Yee's executive producer. Well now, at
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  Speaker 4: the time when I met him, he was still working
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  Speaker 4: with Breakfast Club, but Dan Green, Yeah, and then so
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  Speaker 4: we met in an alumni engagement event that I actually
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  Speaker 4: like put together with doctor K. And after that he
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  Speaker 4: was like, I'm going to need a photographer, you know,
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  Speaker 4: once you graduate, So give me a call once you're done.
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  Speaker 4: And I rang him up in May, and then I
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  Speaker 4: started working with ye Fast forward a few years of
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  Speaker 4: just kind of paying my dues, and I found myself
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  Speaker 4: over here.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, so Dan obviously brought you into the
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  Speaker 3: the cluster here you could say, yeah, for sure, it's
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  Speaker 3: all about like everything doesn't matter what episode.
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  Speaker 2: We do, It's all.
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  Speaker 3: About you know who you know. Yeah, that's why networking
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  Speaker 3: is so important, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Dan was the one that got me in,
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  Speaker 4: but I worked with Tony Mulay, who's the Yeah. He
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  Speaker 4: brought me in for a freelance event.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 4: It was an event at UH. It was an event
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  Speaker 4: for Infinity on the Edge. They were presenting a car,
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  Speaker 4: which is crazy. They like reconstructed this car and like put.
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  Speaker 3: It out and put it up, Yeah exactly, and took
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  Speaker 3: a part and put it back together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, isn't it Isn't it insane? And it
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  Speaker 4: was like the first car to ever do it or
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  Speaker 4: something like that. And so I freelanced for them doing that.
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  Speaker 4: And then fast forward a few months and he was like,
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  Speaker 4: I want you on the team, and he brought me in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do everybody stuff, yeah, literally everybody.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I've worked at Breakfast Club, I've worked with Elvis,
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  Speaker 4: I've worked with wor KT you obviously, I've worked with Ze,
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  Speaker 4: you know. Aside from Elvis, I feel like I'm forgetting
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  Speaker 4: oh Q of course.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I work with Ken plenty of times. Yep.
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  Speaker 4: But like the main squeezes that I kind of have,
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  Speaker 4: Elvis is like more so coverage Breakfast Club. That's more
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  Speaker 4: so coverage when people need it. But I more so
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  Speaker 4: work with like KTU and Angie Martinez.
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  Speaker 1: Those are like the two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's unpack a little bit about your journey. First
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  Speaker 2: of all, this is why we do what we do,
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  Speaker 2: because everyone has a story and it's interesting when they
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  Speaker 2: begin to unpack. You don't know where that journey's going
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  Speaker 2: to take you, where the conversation is going to end.
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  Speaker 2: But you spoke about your dad being an influence to you,
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  Speaker 2: and it's interesting how our environmental influences play such large
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  Speaker 2: roles in our lives, and like pro and I have
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  Speaker 2: spoken about this, like our dads were musicians and we
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  Speaker 2: ended up going you know, music and media and production routes,
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  Speaker 2: and it's so interesting what we absorb as kids and
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  Speaker 2: how we're sponges. But even beyond that, I admire your
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  Speaker 2: open mindedness and willing to pivot and persevere through that journey.
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  Speaker 2: There were so many instances where you could have said
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  Speaker 2: this is it. I'm just gonna throw in the towel,
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  Speaker 2: but you didn't do that. You continue to veer in
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  Speaker 2: that path and try to find yourself within that time.
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  Speaker 2: So that's extremely impressive.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate that perspective for sure. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you had to pick
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  Speaker 4: your feet up and do it yourself. But I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: be half the person I was without like the foundation
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  Speaker 4: that I have around me. And that really comes down
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  Speaker 4: to my mom, my sister, and my brothers.
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  Speaker 1: They're not actually my brothers.
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  Speaker 4: But obviously I treat them as such because I've known
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  Speaker 4: him since I was in like second grade, and we've
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  Speaker 4: been a very tight knit group. My boys Joe and Frankie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they've been holding it down since day one. So I
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  Speaker 4: really wouldn't have gotten half as far. Like when I
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  Speaker 4: had that ankle surgery, was with me every single day,
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  Speaker 4: Like that's not even an exaggeration, and you know, he
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  Speaker 4: has his own life to take care take to recover.
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  Speaker 4: That was like an eight month recovery. Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 4: I ended up And then fast forward like in college too,
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  Speaker 4: I was playing basketball. I ended up tearing my acl
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  Speaker 4: and that was like another whole recovery I had to
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  Speaker 4: go through. And I had to wait on that one
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  Speaker 4: because I knew I couldn't take any more time off
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  Speaker 4: from school because if I did, I was not going
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  Speaker 4: to go back. So the way that it worked was
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  Speaker 4: when I tore my acl. I just had to go
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  Speaker 4: with it. I wore a brace for like four months
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  Speaker 4: of my spring semester to my junior year, and then
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  Speaker 4: I got the surgery in June. Somehow was able to
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  Speaker 4: make it back for you know, what is it like
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  Speaker 4: end of August early September when you go back to school.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that was all from sports. Yeah, m hmm,
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  Speaker 1: that's rough.
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  Speaker 2: I tore my MCL and my senior year and then
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  Speaker 2: my junior year. Summer before my senior year, I was
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  Speaker 2: in a car accident and I broke eighteen was in
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  Speaker 2: my right hand, So no more drums for me.
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  Speaker 1: So it was it was you're a drummer. I was, well,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: It's so coola not anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Like more like that's super cool though, how did you.
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  Speaker 1: Tear your m c L.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Basketball?
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow? Yeah? Basketball is that is an injury written
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  Speaker 1: sport was not.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just disclaimer for a shout out to uh
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  Speaker 2: the Blue Devils, But no, I was not a basketball player.
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  Speaker 2: I was in theater. And what they do is that
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  Speaker 2: after I ran the theater production, I.
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  Speaker 1: Was the stage you were playing.
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  Speaker 2: So when we so when we tear down the sets, right,
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  Speaker 2: we have like an ice cream social and then the
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  Speaker 2: gymnasiums are open so they let us play basketball do
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  Speaker 2: the things. And that's why I'm not a professional player.
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  Speaker 1: And that whole story was so left though.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what it happens.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking to.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody who can relate to, like, yeah, you know, you're
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  Speaker 3: almost practicing. You know those early mornings and late nights
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  Speaker 3: in the gym, No, no, late nights, and you tripped
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  Speaker 3: over something and a person.
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  Speaker 1: You tripped over a person.
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  Speaker 2: No, I didn't trip over the person. The person pushed me.
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  Speaker 2: And then I tripped over the ones sitting down.
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  Speaker 1: That's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: The point is still it hurt for a very long time.
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  Speaker 2: M hm.
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  Speaker 1: Those recoveries are brutal, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you have to like prop yourself up. Yeah,
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: you know what, let's veer off with. It's gonna go extreme.
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  Speaker 2: The bathrooms is a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tell me about it.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I actually do want to go onto that
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  Speaker 4: note for a second because I think it's extremely important
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  Speaker 4: because that was something that actually like like definitely changed
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  Speaker 4: my perspective as a whole. Like when I had the
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  Speaker 4: ankle surgery, I couldn't walk, I couldn't do much of
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  Speaker 4: anything on my own. So whether it's taking a shower
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  Speaker 4: or just trying to use the bathroom, those were new
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: experiences that I had to endure through. But it gave
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: me new perspective of just how grateful you get to
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: be just to even just to walk down the street,
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Not to say that I
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: could imagine what it's like to be a paraplegic or
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: anything like that, but you get a little bit of
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: an insight as to what those kinds of like imagine
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: having to deal with that your entire life. You know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: like you get a newfound like joy and having the
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: opportunity just to walk down the halls.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just gratitude. We tend to take things
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: for granted while we have that, and you don't realize
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: how much you utilize an extremity or something until you
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: have an injury. Because pro was crawling into the studio today.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's something different.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: But but one thing I do like about and going
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: back to your sports roots right is and it's and
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I we emphasize this with our kids that since they're
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: into sports, and we look at it as like the
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: fundamentals you've learned from playing all you know.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Basketball obviously.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: And and different sports and baseball, you know, and teamwork
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: and putting in the all those days and nights in
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: the gym, and that helped you out in life in general.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, And you build that camaraderie and that
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: you know, whether whether it's the sport or you make
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: fun but looking at theater or your inquire, you're in
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: bad Like you're with these people for a large part
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: of your week, right, it's just like it's just like
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: here you you build your ecosystem and you're a large
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: part with these people and it's you get out what
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: you put in, and that structure will.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Find you create a good routine for yourself, you know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: a daily routine of getting up early, putting in that work.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: That not like it doesn't become so when later on
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: in life when you have to do a daily routine,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: it's it's easy.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: It's a lot easier than somebody who hasn't.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: It's super important to be a part of teams, like
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: in any capacity, whatever whatever the case may be. I
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: mean the lessons that you learn alone just from that,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: like that that process is so crucial for everybody. Like
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: there's if there was one thing like to point out
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: that you need to be a part of. It's definitely
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: a team, like learn that ecosystem. It's not good to
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: try and handle the weight of the world on your own.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: You know, you need other people to be able to
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: rely on.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: So you spoke about all of the brands that you
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: work with, both in media and out and you're also
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: a brand ambassador. I see you wearing the Comfort Mova.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: How does that come about?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Comfort?
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Honestly, that was just that actually happened like two months ago.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: That was while I was here and people that we
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: so we have what's called the Power Pit. It's like
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: right next to where Breakfast Club records, and that's pretty
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: much where all of our digital team is, Like we
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: all kind of live over there. And everybody kept calling
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: me out for wearing Comfort all the time, and they
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: were like, why don't you just become an ambassador? So
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I actually just looked into it and it wasn't like
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: a hard process.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: So they just hit them up there like we're going
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: to send you some stuff, do some posts.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't even have to make a post. It's amazing
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: how many companies actually do that. Yeah, my wife does that.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: She reaches out every once in a while. Yeah, she
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: reached out. We got like some strange the point some pants.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: So you should reach out and get us some sponsors
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: for this podcast.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: We have a lot already we have We have Berkeley College.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: The present, So like, how can I steal that sweat shirt?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I mean you could go on to comfort and uh,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: you can use my discount code I'm talking about.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And we talked let's let's switch gears and talk about
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: some of these awards you've been winning, right, because just
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: won another award.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. Which which one was this one? Yeah?
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: So I got the Best New Artist award, which is
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: basically just like if you were to put it in
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: sports terms, it's like Rookie of the Year.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I heeart for I heart well deserved. I appreciate that.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Actually you want some other ones also, right?
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: I got one other one and this was like really
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: early into my journey here, but it was a Heartbeat
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: of the month. We had Peter in here talking about that.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Peter. I see the grin. I see
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: the grin. Shout out to Peter. Peter won that also yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: so look at that. You got two award winning.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Are they hanging back? I don't see them.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I've won that one. Also, hell, let's go pro. You
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: can't wain that unfortunately.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I have a Davy but we have a Yeah,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: That award is super.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Cool because the other one we just got an email
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: pretty much, we just got an email.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Email and the website awards.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's call it switches about me. What kind of
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: awards you have you?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I have worn quite a few. The award Extra Mile Award,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: going the extra mall for your colleagues and students. So
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I won that a couple of years ago. That I
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: have some Telly awards. I had a commercial in Super Bowl,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: so that sweet. What was it if I produced that
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: for Berkeley?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: It was for Berkeley. He's flexing heart and that's so cool.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: A silver Telly and then the people's that for that
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: specific spot. And then I've gotten a couple of Davies
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: in the past couple of.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Years, so that's awesome.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: But the first podcast this month, so.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Again, that was a good one. That's an album. Yeah
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to Berkeley College.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: That's like one of my favorite awards, by the way,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: like the actual award itself. Yeah, because it's like it
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: is like, yeah, he came in like a real nice case.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that thing was beautiful. It's beautiful. Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I didn't get nothing like that for Heartbeater Best New Artists,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: But I'll take the recognition though.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: You get the email. Yeah, it's always great to have that. Yeah, absolutely.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I mean at the end of the day, like I'm
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: still young in my career, I'm only twenty six, so
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: it's like I'll put that on my resume and I'll
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: be one more than content with that, you know. And yeah,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I was definitely happy to get the recognition though, because
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I worked.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I worked really hard.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I have two jobs, so I worked really hard that
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: lot this last year, so it meant a lot to
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: me to be able to get that award. I mean,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know how many people I was competing against,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, yeah, I needed That's.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: All matters people seeing you putting that hard work in. Yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I needed that for me. You know.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: We'll eventually get to Pro's wall that he has.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I don't have any awards.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Our couple with his records on his walls.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Those are plaques, those are not awards. It's still really
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: cool though, it's just never.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Been putting in that work for years. Yeah, what's cool
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: about those plaques? I have plaques, Yeah, record plax Is.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: It says the year in the bottom right. So for
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: my kids or when people do come over, they can
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: kind of see the year like, oh you got to
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: you know you have a Cameron or eminem plaque or
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: They see the longevity, you know, they see they see
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: that entire range. It's not just like I got this
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: one year. Yeah no, no, no, I got like I'm gonna
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: have to actually go.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Back, like stand and look at it and be like wow, Like.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I don't you know, I've never been the type poop.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I've never taken a chance. I've never been No, I've
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: never been that. I've kind of just been to keep
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: it moving kind of person always my whole life.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: A lot of people like.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I've been through so many different things, right, so I
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: don't I've never taken a step back to to like
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: really but every once in a while, will you know, now,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: like later in life, I think and think about some
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: of the accomplishments and things that I've done.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: But that kind of stuff is cool. You know.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: We're so difficult on ourselves and we just need to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: allow ourselves a little bit of grace absolutely and appreciate
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: ourselves and what we've been through, even if you look at,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: you know, the past three months or past thirty days.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: So I think, pro you are a pillar in the
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: community of what you do. And I know you don't
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: like receiving flowers you get on comfy, but no, your
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: trajectory has.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I've been getting that more.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I think as I've gotten older, I've been meeting you know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and I still DJ, and I still go out and
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I do clubs and I still do events. So I
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: meet a lot of times DJs who were like yo,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: like you know, yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: But your trajectory has inspired and opened the doors for
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: so many in the industry of entertainment, and it's important
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: that you see that and that you allow yourself to
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: reflect on that, because it is a big deal. Your position,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: your stance, and what you've done for so many and
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: what you've done for yourself and from DJing to TV
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: to radio to entrepreneurship and you know, to programming, you've
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: done so much. You've created spaces, safe spaces for others,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and you've mentored so many, both silently and non silent
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: and you know, like even me, and we've talked about it,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: like you've just you've been that persona. Look he's getting uncomfortable,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: but you've been that persona. But it's so important. It
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: is it is, Papa pro.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I totally agree though.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, like I think when I first got here,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: you were you were one of the first shows that
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I work with too, Like right off the bat, I
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: think it.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Was it wasn't it wasn't was it Shaggy and Sting? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I did. I think that was the first one that
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I worked with.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was like, uh, Shaggy and Stein interview
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: at the same time.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: That incredible, And Shaggy is my guy.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I've done like four or five but and Sting suspect
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Shaggy the thing is just a different you know what
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I'm saying kind of artists, so I'm not used to
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: seeing this thing.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So that was really awesome.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: I think that was only like my second month of
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: being here, and you just you brought me into the
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: space and allowed me to help you out to the
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: best of my ability.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: And you know what, We're going to break some possible
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: news right on this episode talking about Shaggy. We may
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: we may be doing our next live Teach Me Something
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: studio audience podcasts, but we need the board with with Shaggy,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: you know, with Shaggy and and maybe somebody else also
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: with him, so that might be on the way. Just
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: just stay tuned for that. We may be doing a
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: live here in New York Teach Me Something podcast recording
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: uh studio audience, so you guys would be you'll know
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: when we announce it, and Shaggy will be the guest.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: For those that are that are listening and not viewing.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Pro and I discussed these things and then we say
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: we're not going to say anything. You did to say that,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: but then he says all the things. But since he's
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the programming director, we're going to stay quiet and let
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: him drop whatever he wants.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: We're going to make it happen.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: But no turning back now right there, that's manifesting.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Man, should we break some more news on this episode
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: so we have more news? I don't we do have
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: more news?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: What news is this?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Do we?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Wait? I don't even know what you're talking about. I
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: don't think baking. I don't know you're talking about either.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: All right, so we may cut this out, Peter about that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: But as y'all know, because we've spoken about this with
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: our episode of Carolyn Whitman about annual planning, but we
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: actually just finished our annual planning for the next fiscal
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: year between iHeart and Berkeley College, and we are signing
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: on for another year of teach me something I don't
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: even know. So we have more than us. As long
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: as Liam stays and doesn't leave, we'll be fine.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Agree. I didn't agree to this yet. I gotta see
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: the terms now.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just playing all the deals go to pro before
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: it comes to me. Another year through twenty twenty seven.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: It was so exciting.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: That's great. It's so sick.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: They're like, damn it, oh my god, these people.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Another year with the studio being taken out. That's awesome.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's that's big news.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, another year. We may cut that out,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: but we'll see what Carolyn says. Okay, we still got it, Yeah, yeah,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: of course, you know.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I still we still got to confirm the room.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: We might cut this whole part off for the for
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the shaggy situation, but for you're looking to do.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I already have the date. I have already have Shaggy
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: with Robin Thick. Wow. So now they're just waiting on
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Carolyn has been waiting.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: On timing for upstairs, for Upstairs to write off giving
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: us the space. It'll probably like a five thirty or
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: she says, six pm type of thing.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: We'll have to get food. It'll be big though. That's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: awesome there there.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Jill's in on it, like like for Kats was gonna
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: be a big giveaway love in. When you weigh in
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: blah blah, you're sharing a lot of secret. I mean,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: this is not going to be on that.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Shaggy.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Can we can we like, guys, can we really just
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: can we just have a board?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Let's wrap this up? Yeah, I still go back. I
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: go ahead. Liam.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: It has been such a pleasure having you on the episode,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: just because you're always behind the camera. Now people get
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to see you, see who's yes your story, and see
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: who's the visionary behind the editing and going back and forth,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: because let's just face it, we always crack jokes that
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I edit, but really Liam does the hard work, sends
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: it and then I send him more work. With the
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: breakdown of the time coding and all that, and he
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: doesnout complaining.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I respect it though, I mean because at the end
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: of the day, as as long as it comes, it
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: really comes down to this, right, like when when you
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: get to work with some type of blueprint like that
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: is so much better than working blind.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean A hundred percent. I mean
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: just giving you everything and saying give me something back.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah I will. I'll take that every day of the week.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: But I love that we help each other. Yeah, because
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the way that you pre edit helps me when I
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: So when I edit the episodes, I actually watch twice
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and listen twice. So I listen once, watch once, then
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: listen again on audio, and then watch Because for those
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: of you at home, we have different releases. We have
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: broadcasts on w R seven ten and then we watch.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: So I'm always thinking, if I'm listening, how does that
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: project does it land? If I'm watching, how does that land?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: So it's a lot of different audio visual But when
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I cut the parts, then it's the marketing. What's the
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: attention grab er, What's what's that dropped pro say something
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: funny that it's going to go in or something insightful,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: So it's.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: It's say something I need to remove.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: We have those those situations where we remove things because
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: we joke around and we're very much like a family,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and we tend to forget that we're representing various brands
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: as we're talking. But it's really cool to have a
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: solid team that we can bounce off of each other.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I think it's I think that's the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: best dynamic.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: If you're feeling like you're like you have to coddle
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: even a portion of your personality, like this thing doesn't work.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't. It doesn't swim the same at all.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: People can rip through that lack of authenticity in a heartbeat.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: But I love it, and I love that you added
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: the episode with with Carolyn Whitman, a VP of sales
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: for iHeart You added the President of New York's phase
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: when you're like insert his face here, Liam put it
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I actually had to reach out to Steve to get
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: that because I didn't. I know, I didn't. I took that.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: That was so cool. I took that photo of him,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and I don't know where it went. I have no idea.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: We had a designer that was here.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: He needs to do it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do shout out to Steve and he has
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: his podcast as CEOs that you should know.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I've worked with that one. I worked with that too.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I was leading that for a little bit too.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you worked on the episode where we had our
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: present Yes for that interview.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Well, Leea in true teach me something fashion. If you
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: could describe what your legacy would be in one word,
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  Speaker 2: what would it be?
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy because I've had all the time
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  Speaker 4: in the world to be able to think of what we're.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of season two.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, No, I'm not gonna lie I have I have
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  Speaker 4: no idea.
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  Speaker 1: One word is so limiting.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it speaks volumes right, one word, But it's
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  Speaker 4: also so limiting at the same time, just because there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of words that I'd like. That's a great word, Penny,
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  Speaker 4: But you came up with that.
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  Speaker 2: That's well, you just said it's so limiting, so the opposite.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good point. It's a good point.
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  Speaker 4: But I would say if I had if I had
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  Speaker 4: one word to use for myself, i'd probably use perseverance.
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  Speaker 4: That'd probably be That'd probably be my That's the word.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about describing everything you've been through.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would choose. I would choose that for sure.
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  Speaker 4: I hope that my friends and family would feel the
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  Speaker 4: same way. I think that they would, they would align
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  Speaker 4: with that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're extremely proud of you, for sure. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: That's why you got to give people their flowers while
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  Speaker 4: they're still in front of you.
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  Speaker 2: Because that that's one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: That's showing real love, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to be vulnerable, especially today, like especially
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  Speaker 4: with how social media works, like sometimes it gets spun
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  Speaker 4: the wrong way no matter you know what side of
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: the corn you're on.
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  Speaker 2: So and that's the gauge that we we flow in
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: the podcast. It's authenticity is always right first and foremost.
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  Speaker 2: But when you pair that with vulnerability, it's how much
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  Speaker 2: do you want to share? How much access do you
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  Speaker 2: want to give people?
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  Speaker 1: To progress? Everything? But open book over there.
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  Speaker 2: Head on that note, thank you all for tuning in
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