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Bonus Episode - Bad Men, Good Music, and the Developing D4VID Saga · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through.
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Speaker 2: Yeah me too. This is the podcast that comes after
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Speaker 2: the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland
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Speaker 1: bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the
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Speaker 1: after party. This is the show after the show, the
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Speaker 1: party after the party, the bridge to get you from
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Speaker 1: one full episode of Disgraceland to the other.
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Speaker 2: The backyard, to dig into the dirt, our mission.
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Speaker 1: To uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim
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Speaker 1: the story. On this bonus episode, we were talking about
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Speaker 1: old Dirty Bastard and the body in the trunk of
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Speaker 1: the car allegedly registered to a modern day hip hop artist.
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Speaker 1: We're rewinding back to our dimebag Daryl from Pantera episode
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Speaker 1: previewing next week's led Zeppelin in the Haunting of Headley
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Speaker 1: Grange Part two episode we get into your voicemails, text, dms,
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Speaker 1: and as always, a whole lot of rosie. This is
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Speaker 1: the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent
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Speaker 1: thinkers who know that the.
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Speaker 2: Best history is the history that gets buried.
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Speaker 1: Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want
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Speaker 1: told the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All Right,
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Speaker 1: this goes, let's get into it. Balance in life is key.
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Speaker 1: Too much of anything is harmful. I love the Beatles,
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Speaker 1: and there was a time in my life when I
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Speaker 1: loved smoking grass. But if I locked myself in my
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Speaker 1: room all day, every day and did nothing but bong
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Speaker 1: hits and listened to John Paul Jorgian Ringo, the results.
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Speaker 2: Would not be good.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I'd emerge from my bedroom all
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Speaker 1: googly eyed with ideas about Armageddon, race wars like Crazy Charlie.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: That would require much more than just weed. That would
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Speaker 1: also require LSD DMT. My overall point, however, I believe, holds.
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Speaker 1: If all I did was listened to the Beatles and
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Speaker 1: do drugs, I'd have less of a perspective on music,
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Speaker 1: on life, on whatever.
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Speaker 2: This is obvious. I don't have to tell you this.
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Speaker 2: If all I did, If I did all I.
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Speaker 1: Did was help, If what I was doing all the
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Speaker 1: time was healthy, If I was just lifting weights all
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Speaker 1: the time and eating protein, those things in excess wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be good either.
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Speaker 2: You need balance, Okay.
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Speaker 1: If all I did was watch Violent Gangster movies and
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Speaker 1: eat popcorn wishes, basically all I really want to do
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Speaker 1: in life. I'd have a warped view on society and
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Speaker 1: probably a little bit thicker. I'd be a little bit
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Speaker 1: thicker around the waist. You need balance. If all I
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Speaker 1: did was talking to this microphone to you guys and
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Speaker 1: write and record stories about crazy musicians and ignore my
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Speaker 1: wife and my kids in the process, I'd probably be
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Speaker 1: more successful, but I would also be less happy in life.
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Speaker 1: Balance Balance, Balance balance. A couple of years ago, a
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Speaker 1: teenage from Houston decided to make his own music to
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Speaker 1: accompany the YouTube videos that he was creating, videos that
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Speaker 1: were gaming montages displaying his Fortnite skills. Fortnite was his obsession.
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Speaker 1: Music was secondary, but soon that unhealthy obsession with video
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Speaker 1: games was transferred somewhat to music, and music became the
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Speaker 1: thing for this young gamer. He released a song on
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Speaker 1: TikTok and that song blew up, and then another and
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Speaker 1: that song blew up, and within no time he was
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Speaker 1: signed to Interscope Records. Now he has this burgeoning career,
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Speaker 1: and he took his foot off the gas a little bit,
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Speaker 1: reignited his first passion gaming while making music. The artist
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Speaker 1: never really abandoned his love for gaming, specifically for Fortnite,
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Speaker 1: a violent but not gory game for cartoonist shooting. I've
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Speaker 1: never played Fortnite, but for those of you who have,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not entirely accurate, I apologize, but I did
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Speaker 1: look into this today and I wanted to give you
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Speaker 1: an accurate depiction of this. For those of you who
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Speaker 1: don't know, Fortnite a lot of violence, but it's cartoonish.
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Speaker 2: It's not gory.
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Speaker 1: Certainly, there are other video games that go way further
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Speaker 1: with the violence than Fortnite. Fortnite is a game where
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Speaker 1: cartoonish shooting and combat are at the center of the
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Speaker 1: gamer's action.
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Speaker 2: The game is known.
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Speaker 1: To be highly quote unquote addictive. Okay, now, for we're
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Speaker 1: to believe some of the parents who allow their kids
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Speaker 1: to play Fortnite, and those parents who have raised concerns
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Speaker 1: about their kids being consumed by the game, addictive is
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Speaker 1: an understatement. Online, there are numerous stories about kids completely
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Speaker 1: disconnecting from not only their parents but from reality over
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Speaker 1: their obsession with the game Fortnite. Kids so addicted that
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Speaker 1: they literally cannot disconnect. They stop showering, they stop sleeping,
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Speaker 1: they stop eating. I am not a psychologist, I'm not
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Speaker 1: pretending to be, but you look, just go online look
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Speaker 1: this stuff up. Many have chimed in. There's lots of
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Speaker 1: online videos from psychologists, from people in the medical field
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Speaker 1: on the subject of the harmful nature of obsessive gaming.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and tell you video games
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Speaker 1: are all baptism. That's not what I'm doing. Okay, again,
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Speaker 1: it's about balance and my point, my larger point is
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Speaker 1: this is specifically about Fortnite. So after hours upon hours
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Speaker 1: of violently eliminating, you know, understandably in a nongory way,
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Speaker 1: but still eliminating your enemies, it's not hard to imagine
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Speaker 1: a twisted reality presenting itself to the gamer. I spent
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Speaker 1: last weekend more. I spent four days more than the
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Speaker 1: weekend reorganizing my entire record collection. Every free moment I
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Speaker 1: had was spent alphabetizing records, staring at records, moving records around,
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Speaker 1: flipping through records, picking records up, putting records down, putting
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Speaker 1: records on show. I was taking the offshells.
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Speaker 2: Records, records, records, records, records.
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Speaker 1: When I went to bed at night and closed my eyes,
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Speaker 1: I literally saw vinyl. Okay, you know what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 1: Those of you who have worked on assembly lines, those
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Speaker 1: of you who have done tedious jobs, you know, as
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Speaker 1: part of your hobby or part of your labor, whatever
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Speaker 1: it is. You know, when you do something over and
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Speaker 1: over and over and over again, physically, you close your eyes,
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Speaker 1: that's what you see. The brain is impressionable. The brain
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Speaker 1: is fragile. The teenage brain is not yet fully formed.
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Speaker 1: The teenage artist that I'm referring to here, the one
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Speaker 1: obsessed with Fortnite. His name is David spelled D four
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Speaker 1: the Numeral four D four VD. In twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 1: at the age of seventeen, David took a break from
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Speaker 1: gaming and allegedly started dating a twelve year old named
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Speaker 1: Celeste Reeves. He also released a song that blew up
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Speaker 1: online at the same time, called Romantic Homicide. The lyrics go,
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Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I killed you and
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Speaker 1: I don't even regret it. I can't believe I said it,
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Speaker 1: but it's true.
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Speaker 2: I hate you. A video for.
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Speaker 1: This song was released on Celeste Reevas's birthday, September seventh.
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Speaker 1: In April twenty twenty four, then fifteen year old Celeste
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Speaker 1: Revs went missing. David continued with his career, releasing an
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Speaker 1: album in the earlier part of this year twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 1: through Interscope, and touring a couple weeks ago this month.
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Speaker 1: In September of twenty twenty five, two towyard employees out
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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles walked past an impounded tesla and noticed
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Speaker 1: a strong futrid smell. Authorities were called. The front truck
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Speaker 1: of the tesla was opened up and inside were the
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Speaker 1: dismembered remains of the missing fifteen year old Celeste Revs
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Speaker 1: the car. It has been reported that the car was
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Speaker 1: registered to David. Now David is cooperating with the police,
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Speaker 1: but the Internet is not cooperating with David. His alleged
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Speaker 1: online discord chats, some alleged to be with Celeste or
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Speaker 1: about a Celeste, have gone public. I can't verify if
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Speaker 1: they're true or not. I'm not going to speculate here,
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Speaker 1: but hey, you're free to search this up online. They're
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Speaker 1: easy to find. It was also discovered by online quote
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Speaker 1: unquote Sluice that David has an unreleased song allegedly and
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Speaker 1: its title is Celeste. And it's been reported that Celeste's
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Speaker 1: mother has verified that her now deceased fifteen year old
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Speaker 1: daughter had the same tattoo on her finger as David.
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Speaker 1: That tattoo reads shh. I don't know if this guy
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Speaker 1: David had anything to do with celest Revas's death, but
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Speaker 1: I know that we're going to find out soon. And
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Speaker 1: if David is responsible for the cruel and callous and
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Speaker 1: to celest Reevas's life, there's no telling yet why or
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Speaker 1: how something like this could happen. But in these early days,
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Speaker 1: this case reminds me of the Aaron Hernandez case, the
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Speaker 1: former New England patriot whose brain was so scrambled from
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Speaker 1: PCP and weed that he turned himself into a homicidal sociopath.
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Speaker 1: I was there when this news broke up in Boston.
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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. It was truly unbelievable. You just couldn't
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Speaker 1: understand it. And now it's understandable because we've learned about
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Speaker 1: his life. We learned about the drugs he was taking,
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Speaker 1: we learned about the concussion stuff, the ct all that.
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Speaker 1: And there's something about how this story about Celeste Reevus
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Speaker 1: and David is unfolding that that just brings me back
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Speaker 1: to those days. I don't know why Celeste Revs was killed.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody knows why besides the killer
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Speaker 1: right now. And like I said, I have no idea
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Speaker 1: if all this information that's out there right now adds
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Speaker 1: up to this guy David being responsible. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what could compel somebody to do something like this. Even
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Speaker 1: after all this time researching these episodes, trying to understand
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Speaker 1: this behavior, I'm left coolest. Some murderers, I suppose, are
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Speaker 1: just born bad. They're just born that way. There's evil,
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Speaker 1: and evil is sometimes like water, it finds its way.
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Speaker 1: I truly believe that. But I also believe that sometimes
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Speaker 1: outside influences impress upon the brain in ways that are
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Speaker 1: so strong that murderers are made. Now, is David a
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Speaker 1: murderer again, I don't know. I'm not going to sit
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Speaker 1: here and say that he is. Is he another musician
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Speaker 1: driven to kill through some mix of hubris and perhaps
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Speaker 1: video game induced violent fantasy in psychosis? I have no idea,
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Speaker 1: but I have my theories, and we're going to have
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Speaker 1: more on this story as it develops, because it's a
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Speaker 1: fascinating one, and I feel for the victim's family here.
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Speaker 1: I haven't read. Yeah, I'm just going to stop because
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Speaker 1: there's a lot out there. There's a lot to talk
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Speaker 1: about here, but this case is so fresh and we
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Speaker 1: have to be careful about what we talk about publicly.
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Speaker 1: But I invite you all to look into this online
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Speaker 1: and I'll keep bringing you news as it breaks, and
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Speaker 1: eventually there will for sure be an episode on this
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Speaker 1: story if David's involvement proves to be what people suspect
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Speaker 1: it to be. This right now already it reminds me
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Speaker 1: of an old school Disgrace Slaante episode, you know, the
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Speaker 1: whole art imitating life thing with Tak forty seven from
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Speaker 1: season one. I don't like Take's music, and I don't
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Speaker 1: like David's music either, for that matter. But there's plenty
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Speaker 1: of music from bad, bad men, as we say, and
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Speaker 1: some women.
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Speaker 2: That I do like. And that's the subject of our.
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Speaker 1: Recommendation section that Zeth and I are diving into later
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Speaker 1: in the exclusive part of this episode for All Access
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Speaker 1: members on Patreon and Apple subscriptions. What music from truly
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Speaker 1: deplorable artists do we still love and that we would recommend,
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Speaker 1: even it's fucked up to think of it as like,
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Speaker 1: I'm still still watching, you know, still listening to x
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Speaker 1: y z by that guy did that thing. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm also recommending we're really pressing ourselves and challenging ourselves
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Speaker 1: here with the whole art versus artist thing. Zeth is
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Speaker 1: going to be approaching this from the film angle. What
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Speaker 1: films by or featuring demonstrably bad bad men and maybe
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Speaker 1: a few women can we.
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Speaker 2: Not do without?
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Speaker 1: And the answer to these questions, you know, I'll be
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Speaker 1: in the music side of it, like I said, coming
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Speaker 1: up in the exclusive section of this after party for
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Speaker 1: our all access members, just five dollars a month to
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Speaker 1: become a member at disgracelampod dot com slash membership before
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Speaker 1: prices go up. All right, Old Dirty Bastard is in
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Speaker 1: your feed right now, and you can use this episode,
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Speaker 1: this ODB episode as your introduction into the ten episode
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Speaker 1: story that we did on Wu Tang Clan coming up
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Speaker 1: next in your feed. Right after this, we're rewinding to
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Speaker 1: our Pantera and dime Bag Daryl episode. And then hey,
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Speaker 1: it's October, so that means we hear in Disgraceland are
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Speaker 1: unleashing a ton of Halloween related content to keep you
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Speaker 1: spooked all month beginning with our Part two episode on
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Speaker 1: led Zeppelin in the Haunting of Headley Grange, Jimmy Page
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Speaker 1: was on some other fucking level. People, You're not gonna
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Speaker 1: want to miss this, nor you're gonna want to miss
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Speaker 1: our new episodes on Judas Priest, Pentagram, and ac DC,
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Speaker 1: all coming in the next few weeks. And we're gonna
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Speaker 1: be rewinding our classic Halloween Disgracelam episodes all month on
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Speaker 1: artists like The Cramps, Brandon Lee, the Misfits and more.
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Speaker 1: All Right, when that Part two led Zeppelin episode hits, though,
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Speaker 1: like I said, an episode about Headley Grange, the haunting
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Speaker 1: of that studio, I want you guys to be thinking
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Speaker 1: about your run ins with haunted homes, haunted anything.
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Speaker 2: Really.
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Speaker 1: What are the spookiest things that have ever happened to you, guys?
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Speaker 1: Run ins with ghosts, seances, ouiji boards, life after death experiences.
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Speaker 2: Anything can be about.
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Speaker 1: You can be about you know, your family, your friends,
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Speaker 1: anything spooky that's happened to you.
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Speaker 2: Let us know. Let's kick off this October.
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Speaker 1: Right. You don't have to be Jimmy Page to give
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Speaker 1: me a call and give me your answers, but just
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Speaker 1: call let me know. Six one seven nine oh six
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Speaker 1: six six three eight spookiest shit that's gone on in
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Speaker 1: your lives? You might hear yourself on next week's after party.
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Speaker 1: I'll be back in a flash with your answers to last.
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Speaker 2: Week's question of the week.
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Speaker 1: All right, I've been doing a lot of complaining lately
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Speaker 1: about the lack of current quality music, biopics and documentaries.
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Speaker 1: But it's not all bad. I should mention, just for balance, okay,
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Speaker 1: that I caught some of the Live Aid documentary series
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Speaker 1: at CNN RAN and I got pulled into it. Not
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Speaker 1: enough to compel me to seek the series out and
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Speaker 1: watch it on my own, as opposed to just catching
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Speaker 1: it while surfing channels. But again, I did get pulled in,
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Speaker 1: and that's saying something. And I don't want to just
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Speaker 1: be a negative Nancy out here talking shit all the time.
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Speaker 1: I learned some things. I learned some things about Phil Collins.
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Speaker 1: I learned a lot about Bob Geldoff that I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: If you're interested in this time period of pop music,
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Speaker 1: since this is well worth your time, all right.
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Speaker 2: I was thinking.
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Speaker 1: About how I would have made that doc however, on
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Speaker 1: the same subject, and I should mention that though I'm
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Speaker 1: railing weekly against the corporate, algorithmic studio storytelling machine CASM.
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Speaker 2: Hey, we have shirts, by the way.
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Speaker 1: The fact remains that if a studio is going to
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Speaker 1: pay me to make a music documentary and give me
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to explore music history using my storytelling skills,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump at the chance. I'm not trying to
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Speaker 1: be some crusspunk version of a podcaster here. I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to be the best fucking storyteller I can be in
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Speaker 1: whatever medium makes sense, and to reach as many people
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Speaker 1: as possible. And it's mainly because of what we've been
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Speaker 1: talking about here. Modern music culture bores the hell out
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Speaker 1: of me. Yet music history is something that my life
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Speaker 1: is centered around. And I know that's the same for
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Speaker 1: you guys as well, because you tell me so every day.
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Speaker 1: Crooked Rain got at us over on Patreon and hipped
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Speaker 1: us to this David Byrne directed movie True Stories. We
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Speaker 1: were talking about the greatest rock and roll movies. I've
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Speaker 1: never heard of this Jackie. On Patreon, she wrote, I
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Speaker 1: love this community. All the recks that have taken me
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Speaker 1: out of my music listening, film watching, comfort zone, discovering
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Speaker 1: new gems and rediscovering stuff I haven't listened to for ages.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure we are all open to more, especially from
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Speaker 1: you quieter or discos. I know some of us are
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Speaker 1: very very vocal, but please don't be shy. I encourage
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Speaker 1: you to please give us your recommendations and thoughts. And
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Speaker 1: you know when Jackie posted that, the comments underneath that
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Speaker 1: post filled up with recommendations from the disco community, including
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Speaker 1: an audiobook I've never heard of, narrated my ghost Face
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Speaker 1: Taylor I believe, recommended that. There's a book an autobiography
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Speaker 1: by Rodney James Dial. I didn't know about this. I
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Speaker 1: never heard of this recommended by Kathy m If modern
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Speaker 1: music culture, if modern music culture, if it bores you, okay,
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Speaker 1: if you're interested in obsessing over music history with like
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Speaker 1: minded obsessives, then jump into the chat on Patreon and
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Speaker 1: introduce yourself to the larger disco community. As I mentioned before,
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Speaker 1: joining our little club is only five bucks a month
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Speaker 1: and not only gets you into the Patreon chat here
17:52
Speaker 1: that I'm talking about, but unlocks exclusive content and ad
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Speaker 1: for you listening. Sign up on Patreon or subscribe through
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Speaker 1: your Apple podcast app. All right, I'm in the phone
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Speaker 1: booth at the moment, the one across the hall hanging
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Speaker 1: on the telephone. It's crowded this week. Let's check out
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Speaker 1: this message from the eight oh eight where the hell's
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Speaker 1: eight oh eight Hawaii. Anyway, let's listen.
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Speaker 4: Hey, how's going love the show?
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Speaker 3: I just saw listen to your bonus episode and you
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Speaker 3: were talking about that. Somebody did two episodes in The
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Speaker 3: Grateful Dead and not knowing you might have done it.
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Speaker 3: But Fish Trey Anastasia keeping in the.
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Speaker 4: Jam band scene.
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Speaker 3: He had a rough time, almost died with addiction, and
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Speaker 3: Fish is kind of a crazy ass band. Love him
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Speaker 3: or hate him, some people do. Some people think they're cheesy,
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Speaker 3: but I think it's definitely an episode that you should make. Thanks,
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Speaker 3: have great day, Aloha out here in Hawaii.
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Speaker 2: My friend in the eight oh eight.
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Speaker 1: We are currently at this moment putting together a Phish
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Speaker 1: episode as we speak, and of course, right here as
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Speaker 1: we're doing it, there was this news about a fatal
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Speaker 1: stabbing at a fish show in Virginia last week week.
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Speaker 1: This is not part of the story that we were
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Speaker 1: planning on telling, similar to how the Bumfardo piece of
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Speaker 1: the Jimmy Buffett story wasn't something that really fit into
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Speaker 1: our episode. So we've got this problem. We've had this
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Speaker 1: problem since the beginning of time. How do we cover all.
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Speaker 2: The interesting bits in these artists stories?
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Speaker 1: And next week I'm here to tell you now that
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have an announcement next week on how we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be dealing with this issue. It's a solution that's
19:26
Speaker 1: going to result in something cool for you guys, So
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Speaker 1: keep an eye on your podcast feed for that info.
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Speaker 1: But yes, eight o eight, we've got a fish episode
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Speaker 1: and even more fish content coming your way. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's hear from Morty in the two seven six on
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Speaker 1: great rock and roll movies.
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Speaker 4: Hello, Jacobs is Morty from the two seven to six.
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Speaker 4: I've been listening to both Disgraced Land and Hollywood Land
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Speaker 4: for months now. It keeps me well entertain while I
19:55
Speaker 4: work a graveyard shift part time at Cracker Burrow. Fantastic.
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Speaker 4: I just want to say a rock and roll movie
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Speaker 4: that that should be mentioned is Beyond the Valley of
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Speaker 4: the Dolls Bruce Myers Joint. Just it's rock and roll
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Speaker 4: to the core. It's a parody of Hollywood. You got
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Speaker 4: an all female group rock band before there was female
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Speaker 4: rock bands. The soundtrack is just kick ass. You know.
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Speaker 4: I can't believe nobody's mentioned it, but yeah, I think
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Speaker 4: that should be mentioned, which was made back in nineteen
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Speaker 4: seventy and was supposed to be the sequel to Valley
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Speaker 4: of the Dolls but became something totally different. I guess
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Speaker 4: that's all I got. Talk to you later, by.
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Speaker 2: Morty, my man.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for taking us with you to work at night.
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Speaker 1: Grateful to be keeping your company on those long overnight shifts.
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Speaker 1: I'm sad to say that I've never seen Beyond the
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Speaker 1: Valley of the Dolls.
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I know, disgraceful. I need to
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Speaker 2: see it.
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Speaker 1: Maybe I can talk my wife into watching it with
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Speaker 1: me this weekend on your recommendation.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Mordy. Let's read this text from the.
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Speaker 1: Nine to one four on the same topic. This is
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Speaker 1: Stace answering your question about rock and roll movie recommendations.
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Speaker 1: My number one is trained spotting That opening scene of
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Speaker 1: a gangly, young, buzz cut, fuzzy headed Ian McGregor running
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Speaker 1: down the street to Iggy Pop's lust for life is
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Speaker 1: nothing short of iconic, and of course that choose life
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Speaker 1: monologue delivered by a junkie has lived rent Free in
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Speaker 1: my head since the film came out in the mid nineties.
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Speaker 1: What's more rock and roll than Heroin to do? Okay,
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Speaker 1: love your pop. I've been listening since his debut and
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Speaker 1: even want to post her for tweeting about it, which
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Speaker 1: I forgot to collect. But I'm sure the ship has sailed. Ps.
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Speaker 1: Here is my plea for more coverage of female music
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Speaker 1: artists behaving badly. It's got to be more out there
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Speaker 1: than Amy Winehouse. You know what, and she said, Lana
21:55
Speaker 1: tol right, you're right, she says PPS. I absolutely loved
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Speaker 1: how you framed the Britain the episode Truth is better
22:02
Speaker 1: than tabloid fiction.
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Speaker 2: Stace.
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Speaker 1: We're putting together our programming for next year and two things.
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Speaker 1: We're going heavy into stories about women.
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Speaker 2: In the past.
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Speaker 1: The problem has are has been that women just started
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Speaker 1: as fucked up as dudes and they haven't behaved as badly.
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Speaker 2: But however I found a way in. And the second.
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Speaker 1: Piece here that you might appreciate is we're working on
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Speaker 1: a way to bring you guys more fully into the
22:31
Speaker 1: process of helping us choose these stories. So we'll have
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Speaker 1: more on that soon, but headline more female artists coming
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Speaker 1: your way. In disgrace, lam programming all right, three.
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Speaker 2: H two Right San.
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Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy eight, a movie came out called American
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Speaker 1: Hot Wax. I was all of six or eight years
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Speaker 1: old when it was released on television, so I may
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Speaker 1: be misremembering some things, but it was about Alan Freed
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Speaker 1: and probably my introduction to rock. It's got all the
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Speaker 1: bangers in it and screaming Jay Hawkins performance, and it
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Speaker 1: blew my mind. But it had all the good stuff,
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Speaker 1: teams dancing in defiance, races, mingling with each other, and
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Speaker 1: cops trying to shut it all down.
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Speaker 2: Another great one.
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Speaker 1: Was released in nineteen eighty ish called Times Square, a
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Speaker 1: great soundtrack to young girls escaping a mental health hospital
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Speaker 1: and in general raising hell and.
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Speaker 2: Upsetting the public.
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Speaker 1: I've heard of American Hot Wax, I've probably seen clips
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Speaker 1: from it. Never heard of the nineteen eighty ish film
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Speaker 1: Times Square, but I'm highly intrigued.
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Speaker 2: This sounds fantastic. I love that era of New York.
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Speaker 1: I just love looking at it on film, especially when
23:31
Speaker 1: there's some sort of pop, punk, rock and crime angle
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Speaker 1: to it. So I'm gonna check Times Square out three
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Speaker 1: h two. Thank you very much, your your I don't
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Speaker 1: know why, but Times Square nineteen eighty ish reminds me.
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Speaker 2: Of of Over the Edge, a great rock.
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Speaker 1: And roll movie that's not about music that came out
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Speaker 1: I think late seventies, might have been seventy eight seventy
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Speaker 1: nine Matt Dillon's first movie or second movie.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Tex was his first movie. It's one of those,
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Speaker 1: but it's fantastic, incredible soundtrack Over the Edge. Check that
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Speaker 1: out and check out Times Square on recommendation from the
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Speaker 1: three to ZO two and oh before I go, speaking
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Speaker 1: of Over the Edge and beyond the value of the dolls,
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Speaker 1: we have new hats and t shirts that would fit
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Speaker 2: Hang tight.
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Speaker 1: I love Paul Newman. I love Paul Newman so much.
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Speaker 1: What an incredible actor. Two thousand and eight, when he died,
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Speaker 1: I was driving home from a gig in New York
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Speaker 1: with my band Bodega Girls, and we were driving through Connecticut,
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Speaker 1: and we got home way late or early in the morning,
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Speaker 1: I should say, I went to bed, woke up next
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Speaker 1: day I found out he died. And I've always thought,
25:24
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is so silly and stupid to think,
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Speaker 1: but you know, driving home from New York to Boston,
25:30
Speaker 1: I always thought, maybe Paul Newman passed away as we
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Speaker 1: were driving through Connecticut. And I don't know why that
25:36
Speaker 1: matters to me. I have no reason for it at all.
25:39
Speaker 1: It's just a weird, little trivial thing that I always
25:42
Speaker 1: think of when I think of Paul Newman. I have
25:44
Speaker 1: great affection for the man as an actor. Slapshot is
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies of all time, and Paul
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Speaker 1: Newman is the subject. As you know of or some
25:54
Speaker 1: of you know of this week's Hollywood Land episode. And
25:57
Speaker 1: here's a little taste of our man, doctor Lundy talking
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Speaker 1: about Paul in this week's Hollywood Land Rap Party episode.
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Speaker 5: Robert Redford and Paul Newman were very similar when it
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Speaker 5: came to philanthropy. You know, Redford was all about the environment.
26:12
Speaker 5: Newman was all about people, specifically about sick kids, kids
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Speaker 5: with serious illnesses. He started this company, Newman's Own in
26:20
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty two, which was a food business that began
26:24
Speaker 5: with just salad dressing and eventually moved on to like pasta, sauce,
26:27
Speaker 5: olive oil, pizza, popcorn, cookies, coffee tea. I'm sure you
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Speaker 5: see the stuff in the supermarket all the time. Quick
26:34
Speaker 5: shout out to his pasta sauce Sokker Rooney, which is
26:37
Speaker 5: an all theimer for me. But anyways, my point here
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Speaker 5: is that when he started this company in eighty.
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Speaker 2: Two, he was laughed at.
26:44
Speaker 5: It was like, look at this vain actor putting his
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Speaker 5: face on a salad dressing label and all that. But
26:50
Speaker 5: then when people saw what it was really about, that
26:52
Speaker 5: this company was putting one hundred percent of their profits
26:56
Speaker 5: into programs that benefited kids with serious illnesses that benefited
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Speaker 5: school food programs. It was like, holy shit, No, no
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Speaker 5: actor has ever pulled this off before. And keep in
27:09
Speaker 5: mind the nonprofits that Newman's own helps fund includes this
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Speaker 5: network of summer camps for kids with serious illnesses that was,
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Speaker 5: you know, founded back in the late eighties, and according
27:22
Speaker 5: to one camp counselor who worked there, Paul Newman would
27:25
Speaker 5: visit every week just to hang out with the kids,
27:28
Speaker 5: not for photo ops with the press, not for a
27:31
Speaker 5: pat on the back. He did it because he just
27:34
Speaker 5: believed in what the company was doing, and he believed
27:36
Speaker 5: in helping other people. And you know, this isn't to
27:39
Speaker 5: say the guy was perfect, because he wasn't. Part of
27:42
Speaker 5: being authentic like that is that it's a warts and
27:45
Speaker 5: all thing, you know, And if you want a really
27:47
Speaker 5: in depth look at that, I highly recommend you check
27:51
Speaker 5: out this documentary series that was on HBO from a
27:54
Speaker 5: few years back called The Last Movie Stars, which is
27:57
Speaker 5: about Paul Newman and his wife Joanne Woodward, directed by
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Speaker 5: Ethan Hawk.
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Speaker 1: Guys, make sure you're following Hollywood Land on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,
28:05
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcast. Paul Newman had this
28:08
Speaker 1: ornery side to him that I just loved. And like
28:12
Speaker 1: I said, he lived in Connecticut. Connecticut is technically New England,
28:19
Speaker 1: I think of it more is New York. I don't
28:21
Speaker 1: think Paul Newman was a New England sports fan, but
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Speaker 1: that ornery side of him would have fit perfectly for
28:30
Speaker 1: the Patriots nation.
28:31
Speaker 2: Right now, God trying to root for the Patriots this season.
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28:57
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Speaker 1: Patriot and they laughed.
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Speaker 2: They laugh.
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Speaker 1: I'm not even joking. One guy at a local church
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Speaker 1: event last week asked me if the Patriots were still
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Speaker 1: even in the NFL. This is before Sunday's game where
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Speaker 1: they turned the ball over ten thousand times. This team
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Speaker 1: is an embarrassment and I can't get over how far
29:14
Speaker 1: we've Fallen. I can't get over how good we had
29:17
Speaker 1: it back in the day. Brady Belichick, I can't believe
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Speaker 1: Remember thirteenth, two thousand and four, Old Dirty Bastard passed away.
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Speaker 1: Here's what America was listening to on that day. According
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