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Patriots Unfiltered 7/9: Players to Watch, QB Timelines, NFL Litigation · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. This is Fred Kersh
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  Speaker 2: Mike do so Bowman, what are we doing? Like? This is?
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  Speaker 2: This is weird? I don't know. For some reason, I
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  Speaker 2: of the week. But you get a little sense of
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  Speaker 2: of what you're going to be seeing from now on
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  Speaker 2: with Patriots Unfiltered. A little bit more of a relaxed look,
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  Speaker 2: I think. So you know that includes Matisse, you know, relaxed.
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  Speaker 4: You can see our ears now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need headphones anymore.
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  Speaker 6: Reminds me of Bar Rescue when they do the big
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  Speaker 6: reveal at the end.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we still have some things to do with
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit of a different five though. It's
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  Speaker 4: I was saying before, I'm trying to imagine Paul getting
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  Speaker 4: mad in a couch. I just can't see it. I
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll just give him a piece of plywood, like
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  Speaker 2: he could just be uncomfortable angry. Yeah, it's just the
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  Speaker 2: three of us because it is the dog days of
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  Speaker 2: the NFL and a lot of people are out today.
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  Speaker 2: Paul's out, Alex is out, Tamara's out, Evan's.
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  Speaker 4: Out, Evan's out, Evan's uh, you have, Paul's down in
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  Speaker 4: the Bahamas. So I saw some pictures. Looks like he's
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  Speaker 4: having a great time, and yeah, I watching Bryce Baron
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  Speaker 4: sweating or you know what off out there crazy, Like,
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  Speaker 4: oh my god, walking a golf course today. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 4: would be pretty miserable, but uh but yeah, we'll get
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  Speaker 4: through it. I've been watching some some tennis.
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  Speaker 2: Fred I was. I.
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  Speaker 4: I watched Cocoa Golf this weekend. I was thinking of you,
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  Speaker 4: because full of herself she did, and I was I
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  Speaker 4: was thinking, I'm like, well, this is great because I
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  Speaker 4: thought it might be only you and I on the show.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm like, all right, I know friend's watching ten
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  Speaker 4: right now. So but I couldn't believe her upset with
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  Speaker 4: the coach and like doing that. And I know she
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  Speaker 4: took not to like kick it right off going into
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  Speaker 4: cocoa cough, but I couldn't. I and I've seen I've
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  Speaker 4: been doing so much youth sports lately of kids who
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  Speaker 4: can't handle any kind of adversity. And it was like,
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, She's like, tell me what to do,
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  Speaker 4: tell me what to do.
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  Speaker 2: It was a combination pride and panic. Yeah that hit her. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but anyway, we're.
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  Speaker 4: Not gonna stoneface.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe later, but we'll get into Patriots. What do we
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  Speaker 2: want to get into. I mean it's it's pretty quiet.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it. Well, I have one little girl,
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  Speaker 4: go ahead, kick things off. Just I saw Andy wrote
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  Speaker 4: something today. You know, you look at the clips and
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  Speaker 4: it's like twenty five articles about Bryce Behinger's performance yesterday
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  Speaker 4: the golf tournament. But then Andy decided, I guess to
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  Speaker 4: throw cold water on anyone who was HIPing off the
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  Speaker 4: Patriots defense today. So just you know, interesting take. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: who wrote this for WI? Of course it was Andy,
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  Speaker 4: but I thought it was you know, I think he
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  Speaker 4: makes some good points about you know, seeing everyone's kind
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  Speaker 4: of and I don't know if this is necessarily true,
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  Speaker 4: felt a little straw managed to me because I've seen
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  Speaker 4: a ton of people saying like, well, of course the
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  Speaker 4: defense is going to be top five again, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: I do think that there's some continuity there, and they're
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  Speaker 4: getting some very good players back, and they certainly have
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  Speaker 4: more talent on that side of the ball. But it
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  Speaker 4: felt like Andy was just kind of throwing cold water,
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  Speaker 4: and people thought they were going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 4: really good, you know, trying to rely on Judahan, who
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  Speaker 4: is gonna be thirty two next month, and we know
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  Speaker 4: Godshaw's unhappy and two key pieces for both the run
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  Speaker 4: game and the past game. So Andy giving us a
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  Speaker 4: little football here in July.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone who says they know what's going to happen, they
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  Speaker 2: just don't, you know. And I've heard people on both
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  Speaker 2: ends too optimistic and too pessimistic, you know. And you
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  Speaker 2: could make the case for why they're going to be
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  Speaker 2: better or worse than next year than last year, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because of the record. Yeah, but let's not forget they
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  Speaker 2: only won four games last year, so in order to
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  Speaker 2: be better than that, it's not going to take that
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  Speaker 2: much in terms of the record. Now here's the thing,
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  Speaker 2: Andy's right, there's no guarantee that the defense is going
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  Speaker 2: to be better on paper because it's a better schedule.
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  Speaker 2: You're losing Bill Belichick. I don't care what you say,
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  Speaker 2: that's a loss. You don't lose the greatest defensive mind
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  Speaker 2: in the history of football and say that that's not
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  Speaker 2: a loss. But then you look at the other side.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Gonzales is healthy for the season, maybe Judon is
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  Speaker 2: healthy for the season. You know, you're bringing guys back.
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  Speaker 2: Afredy Jennings. Is that much better, Tavay is that much better?
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  Speaker 2: You know, Barmore is now like he's the man now.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he plays like.
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  Speaker 4: That, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of reasons to think the defense
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  Speaker 2: could be as good or better, you know. But at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it comes down to what
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback. And as far as I'm concerned, as long
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  Speaker 2: as he's our quarterback and you can say at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the season he proved that he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be the guy, I'll be happy this year, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But like I heard some people say, I think they
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  Speaker 2: can win ten games. I think you really have to
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  Speaker 2: go on on a limb to get to that point.
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  Speaker 2: I think you really do, based on how bad the
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  Speaker 2: offense was last year and that they're starting from scrap
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  Speaker 2: with a whole new offensive regime. You know, I find
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  Speaker 2: that that's gonna be tough. But do I think they
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  Speaker 2: could have more than four wins? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, yeah. It made me do a little
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  Speaker 4: deep dive, and I do. I wish Paul was here,
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  Speaker 4: because Paul always keeps us like honest about like was
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  Speaker 4: the defense good last year, and like no, and then you.
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  Speaker 2: Read off well, they did come as a lot of
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  Speaker 2: teams that had injuries.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they also, I mean not a lot of turnovers,
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  Speaker 4: you know, not a lot of takeaways last year, which
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  Speaker 4: was almost kind of I feel like regression to the
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  Speaker 4: mean for this team. They've been so prolific with takeaways,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that defense just it always seemed to be
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  Speaker 4: you know, even years that way back when twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 4: twenty eleven, when they weren't that good, but they got
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  Speaker 4: turnovers and that kind of offset their lack of talent.
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  Speaker 4: But you're right, I mean, it's I like seeing the
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  Speaker 4: micd out from Alex van Pelt that we put out,
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  Speaker 4: which you guys can can check out from Mini Camp,
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  Speaker 4: but it was just I enjoy listening to Alex van
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  Speaker 4: Pelt because you can tell he knows exactly what he's
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  Speaker 4: looking for. You know, it's just it. And I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I guess we're spoiled from last you know, I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to say Las year Becau. Bill O'Brien clearly knew
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  Speaker 4: what he wanted to. We just couldn't get there. So
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  Speaker 4: it's it's it's hard to compare apple stapples, but I
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  Speaker 4: did like that, and you know, I think it's a
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  Speaker 4: nice window into Alex van Pelton kind of his style.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just trying to see what player takes that jump,
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  Speaker 6: you know, whether it's to Mario Douglas. We saw him
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  Speaker 6: on Twitter working out with some other.
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  Speaker 4: Big names, worked out videos on Twitter and.
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  Speaker 2: Unter Henry Re signed him.
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  Speaker 6: Trying to see it can Thornton finally reach that next
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  Speaker 6: that next jump, and like I know, we say, don't
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  Speaker 6: bet on it, but it's somebody gonna step up the
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  Speaker 6: offense kind of missing the leader.
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  Speaker 2: Is something going to be that guy?
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  Speaker 4: That's what I wrote in the mail bag today. You know,
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  Speaker 4: someone was, you know, asking, how are you going to
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  Speaker 4: know if this is a successful season? And I think,
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  Speaker 4: as Fred said, so many people get caught up in
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  Speaker 4: what's your win prediction? You know, and and Paul always
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  Speaker 4: points out like you can have certain amounts of wins
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  Speaker 4: and the seasons look completely different. You can have a
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  Speaker 4: six win season that you feel really positive. You could
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  Speaker 4: have a six win feasion where you feel terrible. But
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  Speaker 4: I think to your point, at what I wrote today
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  Speaker 4: was like I just want to spark, like do we
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  Speaker 4: just have to come out of the season saying we
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  Speaker 4: found some sparks this year that we can build around
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  Speaker 4: and try to make a real fire to to you know,
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  Speaker 4: make some noise in the AFC East. That was the
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  Speaker 4: way into the question was the talk of strength to schedule.
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  Speaker 4: People get so wrapped up in that and it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's so much based on last year. And for me,
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  Speaker 4: I always just look at Buffalo, Miami and the Jets,
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  Speaker 4: like those are the teams that you need to beat
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  Speaker 4: to get back to the playoffs. How do you stack
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  Speaker 4: up with those teams the rest of them? It just
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  Speaker 4: depends on the year. I mean, last year Anthony Richardson
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  Speaker 4: goes down from the Colts, you never see him, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's totally different teams depending on when you
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  Speaker 4: get them, so you can, you know, take those records
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  Speaker 4: from last year and say, well, this is what the
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  Speaker 4: This is a tough schedule this year maybe or maybe
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  Speaker 4: they get you know, what happened a couple years ago
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  Speaker 4: when they face everybody's quarterback, it's hurt. You know, it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't really have much impact.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing. You know, we had a running
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  Speaker 2: joke on this show, you don't know the strength of
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  Speaker 2: schedule until after the season, right, And it sounds funny,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because okay, so then what are we going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about? But it's true, like, okay, Cincinnati Bengals.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone thinks, well they're going to be better because Joe
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  Speaker 2: Burrow's back. Okay, well what if you know, what if
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  Speaker 2: if he doesn't play as well? What if he gets hurt?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's not like he doesn't get hurt. He's
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  Speaker 2: had two seasons now already where he's missed basically the
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  Speaker 2: whole season, and he going the training camp hurt last
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  Speaker 2: year too. You never know what's right, So like you
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  Speaker 2: don't know what's gonna happen with these guys, Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 2: What's what's going on with the Jets? On paper, they
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  Speaker 2: should be better, but you don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I got a great example the two thousand and nine Patriots. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Tom Brady's going to be back. They got Randy Moss,
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  Speaker 4: they got Wes Welker. I mean this this team set
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  Speaker 4: records two years ago. They might go undefeated, and it
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  Speaker 4: ended up being one of them. I just watched the.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Bocher Football Life and vation these guys.
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  Speaker 4: I can't get these guys to play. Who would have
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  Speaker 4: saw that coming? It's it's essentially the same team coming
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  Speaker 4: back from when you had a sixteen to no year,
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  Speaker 4: just two years removed, and all of a sudden, you
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  Speaker 4: get you take away Moss deep and you get up
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  Speaker 4: on Welker, like where was that No? Seven? So so
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  Speaker 4: much can happen. I mean, injuries is the obvious one,
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  Speaker 4: but even just like the on nine Patriots where they
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  Speaker 4: just didn't have a good team, like they were lacking
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  Speaker 4: the chemistry and Vie, I like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, not to just harp on the Jets, but
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  Speaker 2: you can definitely see that whole situation going south over there.
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  Speaker 2: He's you know, with that nut that quarterback. You know,
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  Speaker 2: even if he's playing, like what if like they lose
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  Speaker 2: a couple of games and he starts yelling at his
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  Speaker 2: offensive line or yelling at his offensive coordinator. I mean
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  Speaker 2: you could see that whole situation just just taking it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like, well, why don't you ask the coaches
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  Speaker 4: about that? I mean, we know he loves that.
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  Speaker 6: We'll just even look at last year, it was like there,
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  Speaker 6: the the Jets are new and four plays in, like
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  Speaker 6: you just never know what's going to happen until right
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  Speaker 6: in the season.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so you go in with I think you should
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  Speaker 2: go in with optimism. You know. To me, what I'm
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  Speaker 2: focused on is the quarterback. I'm focusing on Gonzales. I
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  Speaker 2: think we've got, you know, a pro bowler at the
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  Speaker 2: very least in the making there bar More. I think, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's the guy now, okay, be the guy,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I hopefully Poke can get some chemistry Baker
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  Speaker 2: a little bit Baker not. So you know, like if
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  Speaker 2: Baker happens, that's great.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we just like pok has to just a rookie
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  Speaker 6: receiver hitting the ground running. Yeah yeah, or Baker just
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  Speaker 6: one of them hitting the groundrunning. Obviously Polki's the second rounder.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, Remandre, he's got his new contract. Like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about it last week. Or maybe two weeks
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  Speaker 2: ago because I wasn't here last week. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a three down back. That doesn't mean he has
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  Speaker 2: to be down on the field for all three downs.
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  Speaker 2: But the idea is when he's on the field, you
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  Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen. As a defense, it
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  Speaker 2: could be a run play, it could be a pass play.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what you have to be in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: these days, is unpredictable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they could establish that with Gibson two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it's what's Osborne going to be?
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  Speaker 4: Like I just to go back to the defense real quick,
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  Speaker 4: like is there Like I just I find myself finding
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  Speaker 4: there's like three levels of defense. There's an unacceptable defense,
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  Speaker 4: there's a fine defense, and then there are probably one
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  Speaker 4: or two defenses a year that are awesome. And that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of it.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: And so like talking about like a top ten defense,
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  Speaker 4: like I kind of look like from about four to
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  Speaker 4: like fourteen, they're all pretty good, like just the modern NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they're all pretty good until the other team.
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  Speaker 4: But you need the offense, right like that's till you get.
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  Speaker 2: To the fourth quarter, and then it seems nobody can
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  Speaker 2: to stop anybody.
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  Speaker 4: Like, stack these defenses up and then tell me who
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  Speaker 4: their offenses are, and then that's really going to be
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  Speaker 4: the determination of what one of those is the best.
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  Speaker 4: And I just I think this is a whole conversation
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  Speaker 4: about how much impact defense really can still have on
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  Speaker 4: the game. And I do think that there are defenses
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  Speaker 4: that do. But eventually it just gets down to the end. Well,
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  Speaker 4: and your defenses are gassed in the super Bowl and
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  Speaker 4: what does it even matter now? And it just again
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  Speaker 4: it comes down to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I mean last year the Patriots, I think they average
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  Speaker 2: around thirteen points allowed, which was really good, but you
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  Speaker 2: think about who they played, you know, minshew where they
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  Speaker 2: get you know, how many games did they lose ten
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  Speaker 2: to seven or ten to six, And you think, okayo,
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  Speaker 2: if they just if they averaged seventeen points scored per game,
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  Speaker 2: they probably would have had seven or eight wins. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's that final line. Yeah, it's going to be the
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  Speaker 2: same thing this year. You know it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: you know, a team that can just limit mistakes, score
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  Speaker 2: that extra point here and there. That's the difference between
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  Speaker 2: being over five hundred or only can't be five hundred anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, like you or a
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  Speaker 2: playoff contender.
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  Speaker 4: We got to figure out what the win percentages of
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  Speaker 4: nine and eighty know there will be five forty five.
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  Speaker 4: You know, whatever it is, you're gonna be above five
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  Speaker 4: forty five.
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  Speaker 2: I can't picture them saying that on the sports shows.
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  Speaker 2: They were five forty five before.
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  Speaker 4: Its no, and I'll feel I'll feel better about that.
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  Speaker 4: But I just think the biggest storyline we do the
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  Speaker 4: mail bag is just when will Drake may play? And
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  Speaker 4: is while Jacoby Brissett playing?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 4: Is there anything to take from that? Like? Or is
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  Speaker 4: are we just treading water.
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  Speaker 2: By prediction two weeks ago? I'm sticking with it. Your
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  Speaker 2: Week one starter will be draking.
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  Speaker 4: I and I just I'm I'm for it. I'm for it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you can break them. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna work or he's not.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: We talked about it at length, and I heard other
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: people now picking up on it because you know they
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: listen to us. Of course, thought leaders, there's no other
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: position in any sport where you get better watching. You
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: can get better, but you don't get as better as
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: fast as if you're playing, and doing it. And I
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: know that you know Bill Walsh in the past that
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: every quarterback should wait at least. I think a lot
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: of that thinking is they're trying to make physics out
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: of first you know, math one on one, it's not
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: that complicated. If the kid has the tools and he's
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: got the brain, put him out there, you know. Now, oh,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: but what if your offensive line stinks? Okay, there's always that,
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: but rarely is your line that bad where you know
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: you're risking the guy's life.
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: Well, that's my question is is if we're going to
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: play Devil's advocate and say, what are the benefits to
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: sitting Drake may like if we're going to play the
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: other side of the fence, and you know, what are
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: those arguments? Because I hear that, like, well, what I mean,
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: the offensive line can be amazing and there's one blown
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: block and his acl is going right, you know, Like
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: so it's hard to imagine, Well, it's so obvious to
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: watch an offensive line, but they can't block anybody of court,
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: you know, like that doesn't exist. Yeah, So like for me,
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: I think there's definitely value to understand how a game
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: happens and what kind of adjustments need to be made
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: on the fly. I think there's use in that where
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: a team, this is our game plan going in, they're
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: doing something to take away what we wanted to do.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: We have to adjust on the fly. It was something
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: that Brady and mcdamee's were amazing act because they had
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: so much experience. That seems hard to me for Drake
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: May week one where they go, let's say they go
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: out there against Cincinnati and they have to change the
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: game plan on the flight. They probably don't have a
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: lot to go to with them at that point, you know.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have to experience it to understand it
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: and then get better at it, you know. But I
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: really believe that midway through training camp, it's going to
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: be a parent who is the best quarterback on this team?
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: And as long as May is mentally understanding the playbook
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: and the play calls and coverages and all that stuff,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: there will be no reason to not start him week one.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Do you see that though, as them being equal or
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: do you think May is going to be.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Clearly I think I think he will be clear. He
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: will be he will be doing things in the field.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: We're like, look, he's the best quarterback you got.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: It's it's apparent, like I wonder if it's it's not
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: going to be.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Like you know, remember when Cam was here and Mac
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: was here and we were like, well, if it's equal,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: start Mac. And I think it was kind of equal.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Mac was a little bit better, maybe more consistent, but
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: there were times where Newton looked just as good. I
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: don't think that's going to be the cases here. I
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: think it's going to be a clear winner, you know.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: I just I wonder if in structure Jacoby Brissett's going
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: to I mean, and this is what I expect is
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: that in structure Jacoby Pressett should know what he's doing
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: and it should look pretty smooth. But we've already saw
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: it in Mini Campingo Tias. Once it's out of structure,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: and Drake May's kind of that's when it gets fine.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: The NFL, these things, right, what quarterback can extend the play?
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: What can they do when things break down? What can
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: they do when you know there's all this garbage at
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: their feet on the run, on the move, you know, improvised.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Those are the quarterbacks that excel these days, Those are
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: the ones that are thriving in the NFL, and on
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: this team. You know, Prissette is he's not a statue.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: He can move a little bit, but he's not gonna
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna do what May's going.
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: To do now.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: And that's but that's all the fun stuff. And that's
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: what we saw, like you know, the the no look
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: pass that you know we saw online, you know, even
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: just even just watching him throw on the move though,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: it's like nothing I've seen here. It's like nothing I've
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: seen with the quarterback live, which just how comfortable he
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: looks when things break.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing comfort, you know, because you mentioned
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: no look past well, you know, and I understand if
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: people say, well who cares about that? You know, how
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: often is that going to be needed in a game?
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: But it shows that he felt comfortable to do that, like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm feeling good about myself. I'm gonna no
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: look this one. You know. Yeah, it's a little bit
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: show body, but it also shows he's comfortable out there.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: He's not panicking, he's not overwhelmed, you know, he's not
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: a feel to show himself. Yeah, I like that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if that one would have happened
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: with Bill that that one feels like like that one
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: came put of.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: It may not have, but one of those things, I
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: think that's actually a good sign. Yeah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: As a fan, I'm just ready for some confident football.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Philo and Mac went out there. I was like, well,
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: this is gonna be a three and out. Like if
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: Peron gets the first down, go with the first down.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: I just like, I want to be able to watch
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: a competent offense. But I do think if I'm fifty
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: to fifty on it, like, I'm fine with either. But
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: if you sit May, I think you need to stick
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: to your guns a little and sit him the first
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: couple of games. Don't like once it goes south, don't
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: just yank Brisette.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: It's hard. I know it's hard. It's hard, and that's
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: like you get into all the different no.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: So, but to get back to that, Okay, if you
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: sit in May, why are you sitting him? You know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: if it's just a philosophy thing, really dumb. But if
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: you're sitting him because you know he just doesn't quite
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: get it, he's not picking up things quick enough. Yeah,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: and so we'd rather just have Brissette out there. Then
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: you know, you have to sit him until you see
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: something in practice where it's clicking, you know, So it's
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: really why are you sitting him? Determines how fast he
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: can get back in because he has to come, he
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: has to overcome that. Why why did you sit him? Okay,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: when is he going to be ready? But like I said,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't he's going to show that
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: he's ready right away. And if that's the case, start
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: him with you on that. Yeah, now you know, okay,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: offensive line, well, who's your tackle? They'll figure that out.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: They'll figure that.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I think so. I think so. But is quarterback in
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: football the only position in any sport where this is
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: a conversation?
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, that that's kind of the point that we made
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. No other sport do you say, oh,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: it's better to have a player sit and he'll get better,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you know, because he's not ready. It's hey, if you
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: think he's got the potential, get him out there, you know,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: because that's how you get better faster you make him.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: And that's why I was upset in year one with
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Mac Jones. I said it right away, they're over managing him.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Let him make mistakes, let him figure out, you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: the level of where his water settles. Yeah, you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: let him throw interceptions, because that's how he'll figure out
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: who he is and what his limits are. You know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: we always use Peyton Manning, one of the greatest quarterbacks
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: of all time. Had more interceptions his first year than
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: he had touchdowns by far, by far. But the Colts
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: knew he was good. It wasn't even a question. We're
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna let him be Peyton Manning.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Do you think Fred how they managed him that first
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: year though that and did they ended up reaping what
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: they sewed with that in twenty twenty three?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they didn't let him throw into the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: end zone until like Week five or something. It was
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: like some ridiculous amount of games before he even threw
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: a pass into the end zone.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: And then that tentative nature you saw, and.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Then by the end of the season when you needed
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: him to do a little bit more, he couldn't do it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: They just weren't that good. And then year two you
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: don't have mcdan anymore, you know, I mean, it was
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a whole mess. But it's seriously seems like I mean,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: but but you know, now he had to do it
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: on his own more or less. Uh, and he just
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: couldn't do it was just it was it was it
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: was disgusting what we were watching.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: So it's a weird kind of three year sample size.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: So much happened, well.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: The success, you know, right like and managed second year,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: it's like they feel like, based on what Damian Harris said,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: they don't have the answers anymore, like they they they
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: cannot counter what other teams are going to do. They
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: don't really have a plan of attack that's going to
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: put the other team in conflict. And then last year
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: it's like I think we just all assumed they could
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: shake loose of that and figure would break him of that,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: restores get rid of the chaos and the structure he
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: had the Alabama connection. You know, we're going to get
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: him back on that.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: But there was something going on, and you know, we've
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: yet to hear Bill O'Brien, you know, like able to
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: just talk about it honestly and openly. Someday I think
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: we will like what happened in that twenty twenty three season.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: But there was more going on than just Mac Jones.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I'm sure of it. You know.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well even watching I was watching the Football Life again,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: but you see young Billy out, which I think was
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Oaita was Oaita's first year is coordinator nine. Josh Stain No. Eight,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Josh left to know nine, So it was it was
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: his first year as coordinator. And you know, watching Bill
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: kind of go through go through things with him, he's
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: still kind of wide eyed and you know, now he's
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: obviously a very experienced coach and he's just you just
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: wonder how that relationship evolved last year, and you know
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: how frustrating it must have been for Bill O'Brien. Is
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, I remember our first meeting with Bill O'Brien
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: in that PR room and feeling like, all right, like
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: this guy.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Knows what you're doing.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: You know the same thing I'm saying about Alex Manapel
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: right now. That's what I was saying last year after
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: we talked with Bill O'Brien and it's like, oh, God,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: like sanity, he has an offense, he knows what he
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: wants as a plan. Yeah, and it still didn't matter.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know, I think last year coaching
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: across the board on offense wasn't up to par, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: not O'Brien, but you know, you started out with Adrian
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Klement offensive line and something happened there. Yeah, I mean
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: he was bad mouth and cameraman and you know, like
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: something was going on there with him, and I think
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: there might have been a health problem with him, you know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: but the offensive line was neglected. You know, the coaching
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: there wasn't wide receiving coaching. We all love Troy Brown,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: but there's a reason why he's not the wide receiver
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: coach this year. Ye you know, so a lot a
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: lot of issues last year on offense, and it wasn't
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: just Mac Jones.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: And kind of interesting though too, just to like how
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: they got to Tyler Hughes, who was here and you know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: was I think an offensive assistant under Troy Brown, and
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: then you know, goes to Washington just for a year,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: and now he comes back, and so you had a
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: guy in the house that it almost reminds me a
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: little of Nick Cayley, where it's you know, you had
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: a guy kind of in house. They wanted to bring
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: him back, weren't able to, but you know, another guy
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: who had seemed like maybe there opportunities were stunted by
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: the setup of the last coaching staff.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: It's true, you know, Yeah, I don't know.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: But it's I'm glad they've got a lot of these
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: guys back in place.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I just I think that, Yeah, but I think the
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: bottom line, you know where we started this conversation, going
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: into twenty twenty four, to me, I'm optimistic that we're
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: going to see things that are going to give us hope.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: You know, it may not reflect itself in the in
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the record at the end of the season because of
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of factors, you know better you know, strength
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: to schedule in, facing better quarterbacks and all that stuff,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and just you know, starting from scratch on offense. But
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I do think I hope that I hope by at
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the end of the season we say, okay, we got
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: something to build on here. Now we add a few
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: more things for twenty twenty five and let's go yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: You see those teams all the time. I think it's
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: probably just a little jarring for Patriots fans to go
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: from expecting to be in the NFC AFC Championship Game
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: every year to now like, well, we've got to get
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: over hoping.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Like no, it's a lot it's like five years now.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: But you look at a team like you know, Jacksonville,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. Who you know, they got
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. There's some excitement brewing there and you know
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: they get to the playoffs and you know it's it's
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm trying to think of a good
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: comparison because it's just like, it isn't that powerful drug
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: that you really want, right Like Patriots fans, they've had
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: the heroine of being.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: A dynasty, like they'll be chasing that right forever.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: You can't like like you're like, oh great, we feel
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: good about a few guys, like you know, like it's
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: hard to get back. I mean, I'm there. I want
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: to be there too.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: But once he gets the hard point, it's once if
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Drake May proves that he can be, you know, a
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: top notch you know, I'm not saying elite, I'm not
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: saying Patrick, but if he could be a top ten
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: quarterback or at least top half of the league, now
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: you know you got something to build on. Now you
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: can build around this guy and you know, yeah, he's
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: not going to be Patrick Mahomes, but you can win
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: football games with him and if you if you add
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: some pieces, you know it'll be a worthwhile investment because
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: you've got the quarterback.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: So when you say that the dream scenario is the
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: Texans to be the Texans c J. Strouch, That's that's
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: the dream scenario. So what's like that kind of came
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: out of nowhere to lofty, which, like when we mentioned
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: it the other week, like when c. J. Stroud came
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: in for a preseason game like that was not impressive
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: at all, Like Paul and I were shocked that rookie
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: of the year. But what would be the second hope,
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: like the goal? Second goal? If you're not gonna be
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: the Texas Texan is the elite goal?
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I I that will, I'd say you didn't
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: you don't make the playoffs.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: How about the Chargers with better coaching?
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: You know I see that because I think, well, maybe
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: not now, but when they first started with Herbert, they
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: were underperformed and they hurt them, hurt them a little
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: or he didn't start.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: Sorry it was Tyrod had the injection and then and
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: then Herbert and they.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Were saved for themselves. But that's like Fred's thing where yeah,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: you know, he's like, you're going but.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I just threw that out there, But any others.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Like I'm trying think the rookie court, Like I mean,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I always go back to, you know, just bring it
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: to Patriots with Paul was ninety four, and you know,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: just you win some games at the end of the
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: season and you don't make the playoffs, but you give
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: some of these teams that everyone wants to talk about
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: the good schedule. You give some of these good teams
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: a really hard time. And then you know, I think,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: what is it Buffalo end of the season when he
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: playing like two and twice in three weeks, Like, I mean,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: you put up a good showing in those two Buffalo games.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: They've won the division a lot, you know, ever since
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: you wanted, they've been the division champs. So I think
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: that's an opportunity that lines up that you could say, hey, man,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe you don't beat Buffalo in both those games,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: but we beat him in one. It took the last
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: minute Josh Allen miracle drive in Buffalo at the end
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: and they needed to win, you know, And Drake May
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: went up there and the cold and man, he looked
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: good and he was locked in. You know that. I mean,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: that's another thing I feel like with Drake May is
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I just I feel very likable guy, you know, and
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I hate drawing comparison to Mac, but it was like,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: you know that game in Buffalo with Mac, when that
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: playoff game, and I was like, and I remember Paul perfectly,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: like Mac comes out, He's like, he looks cold. I'm like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: he sure does look cold.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: You know, certainly that's people. That's a question on Mat
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: May too, because he really hasn't played in cold you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: scuba suits.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: But that's what that's what we need to see. Whereas
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: you know, when Matt came in similar, you know, they're like, man,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: we got this Alabama kid, national champion, went to the
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Senior Bowl, did two pro days to you know, work out.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: He's competing. You know, he doesn't seem like a kid
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: who's who thinks that he's going to be handed to him.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: And it started out great, but you know, then you
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: started to develop these little issues with him, like the
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: cold stuff and you know, some of the stick on
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: my foot up when I slide and oh I'm going
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: to take it down. You know, these little things that
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: really bug the crap out of me. Like Drake May
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: doesn't have any of those things yet, and I hope
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: that he doesn't, but he's going to have issues. They're
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: going to be issues with Drake May that we have
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: to that he has to overcome him. It's every quarterback, right,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Like even Tom Brady.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Went through, like I said, issues that he's not going
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: to be lights out this year. But what I'm hoping
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: for is, yeah, he's going to eventually be good.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: But I'd love to see him the comfortable in the
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: cold like, like just to bring it all back to that,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Like just to see him going to Buffalo and be like, yeah, man, this.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like big one glove.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Just don't let it play here too, Like it's one
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: thing to look at too and be like, man, too,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: is never gonna win Buffalo because but they play in Miami.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: So like if it does work out and they get
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: home field, like maybe it will work out for them.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: But if you're gonna play in New England, you're gonna
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: play against Buffalo, you're gonna be a cold weather team
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: and you're gonna have that personality, like you need the
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: quarterback that can manage that and fit that as much
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: as you know might be Remandre or you know, we
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: want to be a tough, physical run.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: So a lot of times, you know, whatever the subject
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: matter we're talking about. There's someone listening. Yeah, so I'm
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I'm appealing to our I T listeners. Okay, is there
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: a possibility that in our field house you could you
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: could have some type of machine that could mimic weather
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: conditions and I mean extreme like like zero degrees you know,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: right up to high humidity in Miami, and you could
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: you could replicate those conditions. Uh so that you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: when he gets there, it's not the first time.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: I'm surprised.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the coach. There's a way to do.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: I bet you and a leg, but I'll bet you
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: you could do it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Would talk to Ernie about his weather machine. I think
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: that's what we've been under raps for a couple of years.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, bring back around. Yeah, but you just.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Gotta I don't know. It's it's like it's one of
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: those things like playing in the cold. I just it's
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: you can either do it or you can't.
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: I hate it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Read I have to.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Admit playing like my toes and fingers would literally hurt.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And that was the main thing. It wasn't like my
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: whole body. It was just my extremity. I just I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: couldn't like grab I remember I broke every finger in
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: one hand on a cold day. God, Like, well, I
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: can see.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Why you don't like it.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hated it, Yeah, I hated it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Now that was the worst with football in the cold,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: the hands and the toes and like even with like
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: like hockey which I played, and it was in you know,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: an ice rink, but you have full gloves, full skates.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: You are sweating your mood. Like we had a game
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: when I was in high school and Holderness, which had
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: no sides. You probably played there no sides on the rink,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: and you know, and it was supposed to be a
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: really cold day and they were building it up like
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: you know, we gotta wear rubber gloves under your gloves
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: and you gotta put vaciline in your face here. And
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: then once you got in the game, like this isn't
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: But like a football game in like the forties, you
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: got that helmet.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: It's all right, you get a finger bang on a helmet.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's a lot better than it used to be. Like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you know, back when I played, there was we were
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: barely out of leather helmets, you know, but now you
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: do have the gloves fields nobody wore gloves. Back then,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: you didn't have any heat on the sideline. You know
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: that at least you could warm up while you weren't
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: in the game. You know, there's a lot of things
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: now that you know back in the old days they
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: didn't have. So maybe it's not as unbearable. But there
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: are certain games, you know, when it got.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: A Buffalo game, like that's brutal.
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm thinking like there's not too many at Chicago.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Could be pretty cold at Buffalo, but then that Chargers
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: and Bill's game here.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Just for for Drake May to be the long term
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: solution here. I think part of like feeling the goodness.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it'll come this year, maybe the
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: opportunity won't to rise, but I think we're going, like
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: I want to believe in Drake May and the cold
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: like that has to be a core belief, which with
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: mac Jones, I was never getting there with it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: It's not just cold and wind because I remember a
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: long time ago we were actually helping it might have
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: been EA developed their one of their football games, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: so I brought in Dante Scarnekia as a consultant, and
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: you know, we were looking at the weather algorithms, and
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: he said, the biggest one is wind. It's not precipitation, snow, rain,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: it's wind. What's the wind? Like, that's that's a bigger
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: factor when you consider all the weather permutations. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: well that's.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: When you don't let Mac throw the ball out.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, Drake has a stronger arm, so maybe, well
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: that's it. You got to cut through that wind. You
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: got to you know, keep the trajectory down, you know,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: the whole thing.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to miss those Mac Jones floater passes,
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: just waiting for the safety to pick it off.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Every time. Every time I think of Mac Jones, I
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: think of that Colts game in Germany, in that play
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: where he just underthrew it by two layers and it
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: got picked off.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: That winning beat on the field, and then you hear
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: the zappy channel and gets over me.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I feel like we left let down the whole world
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: of Patriots fan, not just Germany, but like all of Europe,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I mean I feel similarly, but it's still what an
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: awesome experience that was and the fans that came out
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: like the night, Like.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: That's why I felt so bad. You want to give
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: him something, Yeah, I want to win for them, So
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: you know, okay, we gave them. Paul.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Paul was there, you know, CELERI.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: We won four games, but one of them was Germany.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Will always have Germany.
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: You know, you would trade a Steelers game for that one.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: I was watching the Euros and I was like, this
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: looks familiar. And they were playing in Frankfurt. They had
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: the roof closed this time and stuff. But what a
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: great stadium.
• 33:54
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• 33:57
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• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Let's go back to Germany.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Well, they got They're going to Brazil, right, Kansas City Bay.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Do you think the Patriots will go back to Brazil
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: before they go back to Germany go to Brazil before?
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. But
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: if they do, why not have a bud Light. It's
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: easy to drink, it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light, the
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Oh I bet they're going down for Paul right now.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Actually I got him o Khalik. That's the Bahamian beer
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I remember from my spring break trip there.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: And so he's in the Bahamas. He's in the Bahamas.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Is he at that place Atlantas Atlantis Atlantis? Because because
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it looks Atlantis looks good. But there's a lot of kids,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: right oh yeah, yeah, well you.
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: Got well get a video of Paul going down the
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: slide that goes under the shark tank.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Or oh yeah, uh no, he sent me a picture
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: because the drinking age eighteen down there. So they're excited
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: for TJ, who you know, free.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: They were excited for his kids, so excited for our son.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: To there's casino there.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I think I think it has everything.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Because when we went there, we got like I don't
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: know if you remember when you were in college, they
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: would like in like the mail room or whatever. They
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: would have like a go on spring break and then
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: be like a little thing with a bunch of little
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: pool tabs. And it was like, all right, what is
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: the cheapest place in Nasau? Because we were so we
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: went to this place called the Colony Club. That was
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: like first our flight was delayed. We got there like
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: two in the morning, like we still have to do orientation,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: like what are we doing? Then we get to this
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: hotel and it was terrible. So we would just always
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: go over to Atlanta to just like walk.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: Around people do you can just walk get a day
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: pass so people say the cheaper hotels and boat over.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, no one's going to kick you out around.
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: The pool, right, No, probably buy like a day pass
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: or whatever. I did that in for golf. You just
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: like buy a all day pass to.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: One of our other They got locked in their room,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: like the doors broke and they were like just stuck
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: in the room. We couldn't get them out the Bahamas.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: So Paul's down there with this whole family, their.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Whole extended family. I don't know if extended nuclear fan.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I think it's just the four just the foursome, the
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: fearsome forsome. And I think Evan's probably out on Martha's vineyard.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: That's his spot.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Martha's in the vineyard and.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Out right, no, no, he thinks Jaws is overrated. Doesn't
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: hold off which has been on a tunnel I've been
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: taking Oh my god.
• 36:19
  Speaker 9: Uh yeah, So no, the guys are vacation, ain't getting
• 36:23
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• 36:25
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• 36:29
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• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Patures dot com is the email address Jack and and
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Arbus is a new studio. Looks awesome, but Fred looks
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: like he's gonna sink into that cushy chair like quicksand
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: these these aren't. These are just temp furniture. We're gonna
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: get leather, Ye, leather chair.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Do they have like a spot for a drink?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe drink? Yeah, we should look at that foot rest. Yeah,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I mean we'll as we go along, we'll tweak it. Yeah.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Well, as I see the other podcast out there, I
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: do notice that these are the thing like this is
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: what everybody use this elbow in front of air well.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Now that you know, we don't need the headphones, you know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: so it's a little weird though.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I'm having trouble, like I feel like when the headphones
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: are on, you're locked, it can hear yourself, and it
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: just it almost feels as much you're listening to the show,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: and this way, it just feels kind of like we're
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: sitting here having a conversation.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Well that's kind of it's supposed to. Yeah, we're supposed
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: to be Okay.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: You said, I'm just you know, I feel I'm in
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: uncharted territory here. I'm in a chair.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but all right, Oh you know what I've Matt,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I forgot to order food? Right?
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Where are we gonna put the sandwich?
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Figure something out anyway, Matt writes in a different Matt,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I was watching some Drake May highlights and I was
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: wondering where you draw the line between fixing his form
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and letting him play his natural style. This is where
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: we need Evan. It seems like he can make some
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: really good throws on the run. So where do you say? Yeah,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: his form isn't almost perfect, but he's athletic and able
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: to put the ball where he wants, So let's focus
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: on getting him to make the right decisions instead of
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: tearing down his form completely. Is his form that bad?
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's that bad. I don't think it's
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: that bad.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, isn't any worse than what mac Jones Wasn't
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't hear anyone complaining about mac Jones when he
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: came in. No.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just think it's it's it's hard because
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: you pull one string out to try to adjust something
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: and then you screw it up. And so I think
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: for any like throwing coaches like, they're all very very care.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Sure if you have a reel of his interceptions at
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: North Carolina, I'm sure nine out of ten of those
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: something was going wrong with his footwork or whatever. And
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: that's but that's why you throw interceptions. I mean, you
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: know Brady back, you know when he was on a
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: back foot or bledsoe on a back foot, you more
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: tend to airball it and airmail it and you get
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: an interception. So if you just focus on his mistakes, yeah,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I'll bet you on every one of those mistakes there
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: was some technique that was off. But isn't that the
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: case with every quarterback?
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I think so. And that's what one of the takeaways
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I had when we did that. The Brady thring with
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Josh was just how prepared he was snapped to snap
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: so so much of his mechanics were already ready to
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: go because he knew where he was going with the ball, like,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: and it was all pre set. It wasn't you know,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: harried or rushed. He always was so methodical that he
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: was able to put you know, I mean this is
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: there were so many times when Josh was just like, like,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: look at the mechanics. It's just absolutely perfect. You know
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: because pre snap he canceled out this side of the
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: field and he's only working on this side, and it's
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: probably going to be this guy and you know, so
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: I think it's it's it's not to the question, but
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: it's mental.
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: It's as much as he starts to understand the game
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: more and understand the offense, I think it'll it'll help
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: his mechanics.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Tell you a quarterback whose mechanics to me looked great
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: was Garoppolo. Yeah, I mean he came in camping just
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a I mean the way his release and you know, uh,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: you know his front foot with the weight on the
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: front foot and you know, the spacing between his feet,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: angle of his shoulders. To me, he looked like, you know,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: really well, uh, coach quarterback. But he throw a lot
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: of interceptions in in practice. You know, it wasn't because
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: of technique, it was because of a peer. I mean,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I mean he had a much quicker release than Brady.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, just stood out immediately he could. I mean
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: you could see why they liked him. But yeah, again
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: you talk about Drake May. It was like Jimmy Garoppolo
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: came in. You didn't know that he was going to
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: be an injury prone kind of guy that couldn't quite
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: solve the deal in the big ones, you know, but
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: wins a lot of games. But that's what his you know,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: NFL quarterback personality is what Drake May is.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Going to be. He did not a fall. I can laugh,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: but I think I think players should be coached on
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: how to fall. And I know in the martial arts
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: they yeah, they teach that how to how to you know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: roll your shoulder when you fall and don't put all
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: your weight on your shoulder and kind of absorb absorb
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: the blow of the fall. And I think I think
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: it's worthwhile learning that, you know, sure.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: I mean I love when the guys get into the
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: leak rowle. I mean, Tip was the famous one of like, yeah,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I remember his kid being like he's into martial arts.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: You know that.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: But you know, these the guys start to get it,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: like Brady getting into different things. You know, as these
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: guys start to find their path fighting, you know, different
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: training methods. But that's why I think you're totally right.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like Judo is like, that's what it's.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Meant for, how to roll, how to fall and roll.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: But even that, like I remember that first injury he
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: took against Miami right where he kind of felt like
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: this shoulder out no good.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: And like, you know, even with concussions, I noticed some
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: guys when they fall, they lose control of their neck
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: and their head hits. But there's other guys they bowl
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: their neck and it stops them from hitting their head.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: That's another thing with that that I've noticed with NFL guys,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Like they get in his rookies and then all of
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: a sudden, their neck just slowly like until you get
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: like Devin mccordy neck, right, that's like they just their
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: necks just expand and you understand why. But yeah, it's
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: one thing.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Let's see Anthony Wright say it's from Hampton, Virginia. If
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: somehow the scenario plays that Drake May has an okay
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: first season but nothing special. Also a college quarterback has
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a transcendent season like Joe Burrow and we end up
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: with the number one pick. Would you rather stick with
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: May and trade the pick to keep building or select
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: a new quarterback. This is a part of why I'm
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: worried they don't play May enough. You need to know
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: who you have in order to make informed decisions on
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: the next draft. Worst case scenario is we barely play
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: May thinking he will figure it out later, and pass
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: up on a great quarterback in the draft next year
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: because we don't want to give up on an unknown.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: It's a good question, because you know, you could say, well,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: there's no good quarterbacks really coming out this year. Well,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: when Joe Burrow the year before, he wasn't considered an
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: elite quarterback. It's only that last year at LSU where
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: he did it. That could happen with.
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: Somebody just say hypothetically. Shador goes off with, yeah.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: That could happen, and then you have the first pick.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: What do you do, Well, why does Drake May have
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: a bad year? Like, why wasn't he good? Was he
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: not protected? Was he you know, was did he not
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: have a weapon? Yeah? You know, I think there it's
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: unlikely that you're gonna come out of that scenario and say, well,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: everything was perflect. Let's just drike this kind of average.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Let's say Drake May has a good year, good year,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's Joe Burrow it's Joe Burrow
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: after that year in LSU. He's a national champion. You
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: have the first pick. What do you do?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: No, I stick with Drake Man.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Stick with Drake Man.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, I'd go I'd go with I mean,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you can point a direct line to
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: the left tackle, I'd say just stick and take a
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: lot of the tackles that are going to be top
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: five picks. If that's what you know, what you really
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: think you need, make sure you give Drake May enough
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: of a chance. He's just too athletically gifted. Like with Mac,
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: I can move on early because he's not that athletically gifted,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: like he's he's a you know, a smart quarterback. And
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I mean he's you know, obviously an NFL quarterback. As
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Bill said, he can play in the league. I think
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: at least be a backup. But I think Drake May's
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: got too many traits to give up on him after
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: one year. So it would have to look really great
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: around him, and he would just keep continually screwing up,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: making bad decisions. You know, it looked nothing like the
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: player that we've seen, you know, pre glimpses of an Ota.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Well then also if you if if Drake is decent
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: and there's some all star quarterback, the amount of assets
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: are going to get for that pick. I think it's
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: just worth it to stick with Drake. You might be
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: able to get that superstar number one receiver or you know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: it's a good point defensive team around too many picks
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: free agency too. Yeah, just think think about what the
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: Bears are got. Think about what the Bears would have
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: got if they wanted to keep fields and gave up
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: the Caleb Williams. But if they would have gotten a
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: franchise worth of picks.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're saying tank the season.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: I just don't think it ud be that good to
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: give up that pick.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, it would have been a tackle in Roma Dunza,
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: you know, like that's probably what they would have done.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: But what's wrong with that?
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: No?
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: I know, I mean'll see if KYLEB.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: Williams balls out. If he doesn't fall out, then yeah,
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: might be worth it.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: But that's another thing. Like the schedule, Like are people
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: saying Kaleb Williams and Chica is like is that a
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: beast of Like? Like every team is pretty good right now?
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Like I just I just don't see like the schedules
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: out there that are like, well that's a layup schedule.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Like every team I think you could point to have,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: you know, some problems like this. It's a good time
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: for the NFL right now. There's a lot of good
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: young quarterback.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: The thing that annoys me about the Bears is that they
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: were that Thursday night game away from their coach being fired. Like,
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: you know, people get fields a lot of crap, but
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: it wasn't that bad and the coaching. He was a
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: similar situation to Mac Like the coaching wasn't that good?
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: All right, you get rid of fields now. Now you
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: got Kavi Willams. So it's all in the coach now
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: because they made all the changes for their roster.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: So yeah, if it looks the same.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Let's get to the phones. This is the first time
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: we've done it with this headphone less.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: It's gonna block set up.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: So let's let's see what this sounds like. Patty's an agaa,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: what's up? Patty going on?
• 45:39
  Speaker 10: Guys?
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: Can you hear me? All right?
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Hey Patty?
• 45:43
  Speaker 11: Hey, So Freddy, I am one behind you to me
• 45:47
  Speaker 11: like like hello, I've gone on take it for what
• 45:55
  Speaker 11: it's worth. So like I was on YouTube watching Alex
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: the show, and there's a few different comments are saying
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: like Drake may should start week eight or week ten,
• 46:04
  Speaker 11: will get killed if he starts week one. And my
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: my whole point was if if is the offensive line sucks,
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: what's the difference if these starts week one or week ten?
• 46:13
  Speaker 11: At least if he starts week one, you get a
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: whole full season with them, you know.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: And I don't think you start in week one with
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: a bad offensive line. It can't get worse than that, right,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: So anything else is going to be better for him? Yeah,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I don't want him to get hurt,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: but I don't think that's gonna you know, it can
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: happen to anybody, you know.
• 46:32
  Speaker 11: I mean, and to me, he's too athletics for you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 11: I think he's very elusive. He can run if he
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: needs to pull it down and tuck the ball and
• 46:41
  Speaker 11: take off. But the other thing, too is oh man,
• 46:45
  Speaker 11: I just I just lost my mind. Forget it, that's
• 46:48
  Speaker 11: all I have.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I'm behind you, okay, Joe, I'll see.
• 46:50
  Speaker 11: Well, let's let the kid get in there and do some.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Damage, all right, Thanks, Patty, Let's go to Brad and
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Ohio what's up, brad.
• 47:00
  Speaker 12: Hi, how you gonna do today?
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Good? How are you.
• 47:04
  Speaker 13: Good?
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: Big good?
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow Country.
• 47:07
  Speaker 10: Talking to you?
• 47:09
  Speaker 13: Yeah, right, farm Country.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: So anyway, guys, I got some questions about the new
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: receiver coach we got from Pittsburgh, which is the he
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: the newest tradition right to our coaching staff Underwood.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, taikwan yeah.
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: All right. So that being said, and with Troy.
• 47:35
  Speaker 13: Brown getting demoted a little bit, and the fact that
• 47:37
  Speaker 13: Pop Douglas really wasn't uh, I mean, so many passes
• 47:43
  Speaker 13: he was open. When I looked back to his film
• 47:45
  Speaker 13: at that Mac Jones didn't even.
• 47:48
  Speaker 10: Look his direction.
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: Given that and the fact we have better receivers that
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: I believe we drafted this year, I think I had.
• 47:56
  Speaker 13: An optimistic view of our team. I guess more them,
• 48:01
  Speaker 13: you know, most people, and I've been to Patriots fan
• 48:04
  Speaker 13: quite some times, so I think if May plays that
• 48:08
  Speaker 13: we can win seven, eight games, even more.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that's I mean, I hope you're right. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: mean that's to me, that's optimistic. Yeah, it's optimistic. I'm
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: thrilled that they w eight. Yeah, if they won seven
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: or eight games this year, I think Patriot Nation they would,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: They would sign up for that in a heartbeat, and
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: they couldn't wait for twenty twenty five. It would be
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: like the most anticipated offseason ever.
• 48:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well I mean that.
• 48:34
  Speaker 13: So would that be instead next year's draft?
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: We got a lot of holes to fill, Like, that's.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: What I mean. Now, let's build, let's go.
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we need to tie end, we need to left tackle.
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: I think defense is going to be a primary draft
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: next year, really, And I think we should start May.
• 48:52
  Speaker 13: Around the Miami game or you know, after the forty
• 48:56
  Speaker 13: nine er game somewhere and there.
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: I don't know what you guys think.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Tell me why tell me why that game not week
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: one or not later? Tell me why you picked that
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: game simply because.
• 49:08
  Speaker 12: Of the division game? Primarily? Okay, and so he already
• 49:12
  Speaker 12: gets familiarity with and the division opponent within the season,
• 49:17
  Speaker 12: and he starts building that kind of tenure he has
• 49:22
  Speaker 12: with a division opponent as its number one opponent, opposed
• 49:26
  Speaker 12: to a team that you know, we're not going to
• 49:28
  Speaker 12: see all the time.
• 49:29
  Speaker 10: If if that has any kind.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Of to me, Yeah, and you know, thanks for the call, Brad,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. I don't think it makes a difference, you know,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: like if you're not going to start in week one,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: then again, why did you not start on week one?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: And you start him when he's ready, you know, and
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: personally I think he's going to be ready week one,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: but like I wouldn't like to me it's it's just
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: it's crazy to sit here now and say, yeah, I
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: think week four is the right time, right, It doesn't
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: make any sense if you're sitting him.
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: I think you start him week eight against the Jets,
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: just because the way the schedule builds out, you got
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: the Texas at home week six, but then you don't
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: want me to go from a home game right to
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: playing in London.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: So I'd be like, if you're going to.
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: Sit him or why are you sitting him that? If
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: you're being cautious, which I don't know why you should
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: be cautious, I'm with you.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Are you cautious because of the offensive line?
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: Offensive line, offensive line, just some of the some big
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: games in the first half of the season.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: So you're saying, I want to see how our lines
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: playing first before I throw him out there.
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: I just I don't think you need to get his
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: confidence killed if you're if he's getting out there and
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: getting bludgeoned every game.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: That's that I.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: Mean, that's I mean, that's probably the core of the art.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's part of the support staff is to not
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: let his confidence get low, is to keep him up
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: even when he's not doing well.
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: But I'm just looking at you're away at the Bengals
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: week one, then you have Seattle, but then you're away
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: at the Jets, away at the forty nine ers. It's
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: just it's a tough stretch anyway.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I Mean, some people say it's better to start a
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: quarterback on the road, you know, because they're not feeling
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: the pressure of the home fans and being in front
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: of them, and you know, there's less noise during the week.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: You know, you're in the hotel, you know.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I know, there's just so much stock
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: going into it. And I just come back to like
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: put up or shut up, Like get in there, Yeah,
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: play the game, start racking up.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: If it's gonna be great, You're gonna be great.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: You're gonna be great, You're gonna be great. You've got
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: what four years, five years? I mean, just start the
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: clock now, like start getting that experience. Start seeing how
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: teams play, you know, and if they do. I mean,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: I just I just have a hard time imagining that
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be so inept that he's just going to
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: get killed. And I mean, and to be honest, like
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: I keep my brain. I keep going back to like
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl forty two or the AFC Championship in Denver,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: when Brady was getting killed the whole game like that happens,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: Like it's not, Oh, our offensive line is great, Like
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: everything's fine, Like there are games like that. So I
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: just I have trouble seeing them as bad as they
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: were last year, being completely inept and just cutting cutting
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: guy free rushers every other play like that just doesn't
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: that And like in that case, I get like, sure,
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: sit them, but that's not reality, Like like there's gonna
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: be ups and downs, and no matter who's in there,
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: and no matter who your offensive line is, it might
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: be a little shaky at first. Like I think the
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: way training camp goes now, with the amount of hitting
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: that these guys do, the offensive line is always a
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: little bit behind and it takes a while to gel.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: And the other thing that you know, the modern NFL
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: has to contend with that the old NFL didn't is
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: the money. You know, like Okay, you've got these quarterbacks
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: and basically five year contracts, but the fifth year is
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: an option year, right, you know, so you have a
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: limited amount of time to know this guy's worth and
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: you know, four years from now it could be eighty
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: million dollars a year. Who knows. You need to find
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: that out. So every season is precious, and then every
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: game within the season is precious. You need that time
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: to understand who you have, especially if.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: You're Elliott Wolfer, Jorromeo and like, you know, this is
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: their first opportunity as a you know, GM and head coach,
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Like what do they want? Like don't they want to
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: find out so that if this isn't the case, that
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: they can quickly try to tack to something else rather
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: than well, the whole first year we just kind of
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: did Joe Kobe for sad and we didn't really learn
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: anything about Drake and Nate. Like that just doesn't seem like.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Sad to me. So I don't know, I listen, I'm
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: sure there are coaches out there that still they feel that,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: you know, the guys need time because they think that
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's rocket science. But like for a
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: great quarterback, it's not the game slows down for them.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: They understand it mentally. This isn't rocket science. It's just
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: experience understanding the speed of the game, you know, because
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: to me, that's the biggest difference. It's it's how fast
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: the game goes and you have to be able to process.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: But once you figure that out, then now it's all
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: your god given talent. If you've got it, you got it.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Do you feel I feel like this conversation, like we're
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: all I feel like this is a conversation going on
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: a lot of places, but it feels like it's raised
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: the stakes of training camp a little bit. That like
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: we want to really want like the job.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's less practices, it's less practices with pads, preseasons,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: a joke, the games itself, you know, so like there's
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: less time for coaches and scouts to evaluate. You got
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: to get them in the game.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: And I mean and all that we've been talking about
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: here for the first like forty five minutes, like that
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: joint practice against the Eagles, like.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: One day, one day, one day.
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: Also, I haven't been that decided for a practice in
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: a while. Like usually the player, like you know, it's
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: usually a three game.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Are you legally allowed within fifty yards of a J.
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: Brown?
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: Or is that you still have to maintain.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: That's Chris Cassidy, That's that's you and you're running back.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Now, raven thank you very much. Which is another like
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: did you find like these moves happened in the off season?
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: You know, we're so focused on the Patriots and then
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: it's like I'm watching fl Network and then all of
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: a sudden, it's like Derek Henry talking about his new
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: teamates with the Ravens, and like, oh crap, you know
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: he's going to be going to look scary, Like, yeah.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I care for the all black, all black with the black. Yeah.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: But but again, he's a running back, So maybe this
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: will be the year where it's like he just can't get.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Out of there. I think, I know he's that's not
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: the same as he used to be, But I think
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have a year.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: There he'll chip on his shoulder.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, you want to know what Adrian Peterson had
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: that one year where I forget, like everyone thought he
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: was done and then he had that one year. I
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: think that's gonna be Derrick Henry this year.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched a little of they're doing behind the
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: scenes hard knocks right now for Giants for the Giants. Yeah,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: And I always you develop opinions when you watch these
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: things and I'm like, yeah, it's not gonna work there,
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Like that's my like watching Joe, Shane and Dabill do
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: their things behind scenes and this is all just like
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: after the season they're you know, talking about really the
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: decisions is keep sakwan or you know, finally find out
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: what's going on with Daniel Jones and if they really
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: have something.
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: But the Daniel Jones clip when he's like we could
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: have had Patrick Mahomes and the coaches, like I'm talking about.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, I think it's pretty interesting. Like we're
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: so used to hard Knocks being training camp and this
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: is a little bit of the offseason and you see,
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: but it just cracks me up because it's like, at
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's the same thing that
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: we do, Like we don't just kind of sit around
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: and it's like the same kind of conversation.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: They actually have the power.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: They actually have the power.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: They they have a little bit right information, they have more.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: Information, but like the conversations are kind of just like,
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: you know what I don't know. I mean this year,
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: we gotta find out if he's the if Daniel Jones
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: is the guy, and we got to get him a weapon.
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: And it's like I just add him because they like
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: they're like the money is like on them, like, oh,
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: we did pay him.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: This much money, right right, right right, But it's no,
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: it's pretty good.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: I had to check that out. Well, it's heating up
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: and the hot attempts have you hoping to overhaul your
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: sleep routine? Do they?
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's tough for its be sticky, cool.
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  Speaker 16: When you were traded back here was that Halloween?
• 58:43
  Speaker 8: It was Halloween night. I remember being there.
• 58:46
  Speaker 16: This is a I mean, you want to talk about
• 58:48
  Speaker 16: where dad's you know, you remember going out trick or
• 58:50
  Speaker 16: treating with your kids. Okay's in the NFL. It's a
• 58:53
  Speaker 16: little bit different, but at the end of the day,
• 58:54
  Speaker 16: he's still a dad. You're traded back to Hey, we're
• 58:57
  Speaker 16: going back to the wingl This.
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  Speaker 4: Is great tell us.
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  Speaker 17: So I remember leaving the facilities in San Francisco that
• 59:05
  Speaker 17: day and I was like, all right, see tomorrow, Kyle,
• 59:07
  Speaker 17: see tomorrow. And I think might have been the day
• 59:10
  Speaker 17: before Halloween because we had to go get the costume.
• 59:12
  Speaker 17: And so I got home, took my son to like
• 59:14
  Speaker 17: the Spirit Halloween store, get his costume, get to the
• 59:17
  Speaker 17: checkout line, get to the car, and Kyle calls me
• 59:20
  Speaker 17: back and he's like, Hey, we're going to trade you
• 59:23
  Speaker 17: back to New England, and I was like, what He's like, Yeah,
• 59:26
  Speaker 17: they offered to trade us Jimmy, and as part of
• 59:29
  Speaker 17: the deal, like they need a backup quarterback, so like,
• 59:33
  Speaker 17: you know, we're going to trade you back to New England.
• 59:35
  Speaker 17: And I just remember being in shock because you know,
• 59:38
  Speaker 17: I thought I'd seen it all at that point, but
• 59:39
  Speaker 17: I'd never been a part of a trade. And the
• 59:42
  Speaker 17: way it worked out, it wasn't like they agreed to
• 59:45
  Speaker 17: release me and I could sign here and because of
• 59:48
  Speaker 17: comp picks and things like that. But I remember having
• 59:50
  Speaker 17: to like go home and like break that to my
• 59:51
  Speaker 17: wife because we had moved, but we had never moved
• 59:54
  Speaker 17: in the middle of this season, and I was like,
• 59:56
  Speaker 17: all right, so I'm gonna have to go to New
• 59:58
  Speaker 17: England on Tuesday night. And then I remember it was
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 17: the bye week here, so I practiced, stayed an extra day,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 17: met with Jerry Shaplinsky, who was the quarterback coach, met
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 17: with Josh a little bit, all the players went to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 17: their you know, whatever they were doing for.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 8: The bye week. I flew back to California.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 17: We got the biggest suitcase I could because by the way,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 17: Bill's like, hey, we're playing in Mexico City.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: In two weeks.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: So I hope you have a passport and did you?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I did, And so.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 17: I packed as much stuff as I could, took the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 17: red Is on Saturday night, came home or came here Sunday,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 17: landed Sunday morning, went and saw three different houses, picked one,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 17: went to her to school, end up being the school
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 17: that my kids still go to this day. And you know,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 17: it was a whirlwind, you know week. But that's I mean, look,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 17: like I said, I know that we're privileged. This is
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 17: the NFL, so not comparing it to other people's situations,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 17: but that was a week that took a huge toll
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 17: in my family and my wife and and you know,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 17: I couldn't have done the career that I had without her.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 8: And her support.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 17: And thankfully we were you know, we met when we
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 17: were in high school, so we had a strong foundation
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 17: and and you know, but in a way it made
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 17: our kids, you know, kind of mature and deal. And
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 17: so my son, we went out to Vegas last year
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 17: and he goes to baseball practice with a bunch of kids.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 17: If he doesn't know, and by the end they're all
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 17: laughing and he's he's immediately so he knows how to adapt,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 17: and so there's positives and negatives.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: To all all sides of it.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: Did you get to trick or treat?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 8: No?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 17: No, Well, I remember being like waiting for the deal
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 17: to be worked out, and Bill calls me.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 8: He's like, look, are are you gonna get here or what?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, Bill, I'm just waiting for like the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 8: airline ticket. I got a bag back in my car.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 17: I was at the kids like Halloween party at school,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 17: and I'm like, I'm just waiting for like the ticket.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to ask you the question about the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Eagles Super Bowl in seventeen.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: We'll gloss over that not only anyone knows anyways.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, so in twenty eighteen, obviously you're part of your
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: championship season for you. I want to go before that
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: to the Kansas City game, in the AFC Championship game
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: and just what it was like because for Matt and I,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: you know, again, there's you know, that same thing of
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: us being around. Sure, we've both been around for all
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: of these super Bowls, so we've gotten a chance that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: one stands out for us. That Kansas City AFC Championship
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: game was one of the greatest games that I've seen,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: and I just want to know what it was like
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: from your perspective watching that overtime drive.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that. I think that's my favorite game
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 8: as a Patriot ever.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Love to hear that, because.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 17: In a way, looking back, that really was the Super
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 17: Bowl in my in my opinion, I know, we had
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 17: to go the next week and beat the Rams, and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 17: the defense played an incredible game, but to go into
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 17: Kansas City, it's like, you know, minus five degrees, no
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 17: one's given us a chance to win. And the effort
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 17: that everybody put in that week to that game to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 17: then get, like you said, get to this overtime win,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 17: I think, and you see it on our faces running
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 17: on the field. I think it was kind of a true,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 17: like we're getting goosebumps talking about it, like a true
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 17: like us against the world moment. No one was there
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 17: to support us other than the guys on that sideline.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 17: No one in the everyone in the stands, you know,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 17: wanted us to lose. Really, everybody kind of wanted this
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 17: changing of the guard. Here's Mahomes, you know they're gonna
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 17: beat the Patriots, And it was kind of like against
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 17: all odds type thing, and so fittingly comes down to
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 17: this two minute drive where here's Tom and the famous
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 17: you know Julian quote, you're too old at his age,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 17: and you know methodically drives us down and win with
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 17: a touchdown. I mean, it's to me, it was like
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 17: the ultimate team win. And when I always think of
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 17: my time with the Patriots, it was always the best
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 17: teams that I've been on. And I'm not just saying
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 17: because we were the most talented or had the best
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 17: coaching staff. I'm talking about the group of men that
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 17: were in the room, and we were so close knit
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 17: as a team. And like I said, I think you
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 17: see that when you see on the field and I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 17: think it's I'm right behind Kyle van Noy and Tom's
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 17: jumping into Kyle's arms, and it was like it was
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 17: like this moment, like this is this is we have
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 17: to go win the next week because this game was
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 17: so important and so critical to that and the belief
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 17: that it gave.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: I think everybody in that team.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 16: Look fortunately for the rules and everything like that coin
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 16: toss you win, you know you're getting the ball as
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 16: you're sitting there and you're seeing you know, the personnel,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 16: everything like that is there any doubt in your mind,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 16: you guys are going down and scoring.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: At that point in time, it.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 17: Was kind of like a Remember, it was kind of
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 17: like a back and forth. You were just hoping you
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 17: got the ball. And I think at that point it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 17: was like the thing that always I always looked back
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 17: was they I couldn't imagine. I couldn't believe that they
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 17: couldn't cover Julian because really we ran the same play
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 17: from both sides, and we had this little motion and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 17: kind of and you were like when they when he
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 17: hit those two plays, You're like, man, we're in the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 17: driver's seat. We just got to go and not make
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 17: any mistakes. And you know we had I think we
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 17: running with Rex.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah a touchdown.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so but three third and tens.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Right, and.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 17: You know it was a play called China, and it
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 17: meant like a shoot and an inn, the ch for
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 17: shooting an inn and and I'm.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 8: Like, all right, well it worked once.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 17: And usually sometimes as a quarterback you kind of like
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 17: get to the point where like, all right, we just
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 17: ran that play like there's no way it's going to
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 17: work again. And you know that was just Tom basically,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 17: you know, dropping back seeing the coverage and here comes Julian.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 17: You know, several times I think, I don't know if
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 17: Hogan had a great catch on that drive, but he
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 17: had regulation was kind of a similar play. But clearly,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 17: you know, this is the greatness of Tom and Josh
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 17: and all those guys working together.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 8: They were having trouble cover.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 17: In the middle of the field, and so just continue
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 17: to expose it until they fix it. And you know
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 17: they didn't fix it in time, and luckily for us,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 17: you know, I was able to take us down and
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 17: win that game.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 16: So Paul brings up and I think a lot of
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 16: Patriot fans would agree. Spoiled, Yes, first world problems.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: What's the best game?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 16: Interesting to hear that you say that, But you got
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 16: to go when you got to beat the Rams in Atlanta,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 16: And I'm not sure that fans quite know the role
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 16: that you played that week and your experience with McVeigh
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 16: and that system. Talk a little bit about what how
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 16: you saw your role that week as getting ready to
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 16: play the Rams.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, as a backup quarterback, you always prepare
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 8: to play. We talked about that earlier.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 17: But the reality is, like, you know, Tom's healthy. I mean,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 17: could something happen in the game, yes, but you know,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 17: for me, I always think like, how can I you know.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 8: Especially at this this.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 17: You know, the last game of the year, the Super Bowl,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 17: Like what am I going to do to contribute to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 17: the team to help them win? And because I was
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 17: a veteran guy as a backup and had played in
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 17: a lot of places, I always had great conversations with
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 17: Devin and Jason and High Tower and Gilmore, and you know,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 17: when I would we would play a team that maybe
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 17: was a system that I was in, and I'm running
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 17: the scout team, I'm like, hey, listen, this is how
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 17: they're teaching these quarterbacks.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 8: This is what they're looking at. And I'll never forget.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 17: Like get into the hotel in Atlanta, and you know,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 17: you practice a week before you travel, and I'm like,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 17: all right, some of these plays are similar to what
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 17: I ran with Kyle, who obviously influenced Sean. And I remember,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 17: you know, being in the hotel room. I'm like, because
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 17: you have to have an off day, even though you're
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 17: traveling there for the super Bowl, it's an off day
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 17: and you know your family's not there yet, and so
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 17: you kind of hunker down in the hotel and I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 17: saw a thing on like Yahoo. It's like here's and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 17: it's like kind of they did like a hard Knock show,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 17: but it was on Amazon. And here's like some clips
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 17: from the year that the Rams did, you know, miked
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 17: up and and I'm listening to like the play calls
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 17: that they have on these clips from training camp and
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 17: I'm like, well, I know that play.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 8: I've run that play before.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 17: And as the week went on, I kept watching more
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 17: and more of their film and being like, I know
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 17: the offense that they're going to run, and having meetings
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 17: with Bill and Map and was Matt still there or was.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 8: It flow flow Yeah, And and.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 17: Being like listen, I know, you know they don't really
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 17: have an answer for this. They don't really have you know,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 17: if you bring this pressure, you know, they have to
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 17: throw hot things like that, and you know, so I
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 17: took a lot of pride in that. And one of
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 17: the like my prodest moments was after the Super Bowl
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 17: Devin and Jason kind of talking that to the media
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 17: and being like we were on it. We we had
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 17: a great feeling because Brian gave us a great look.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 17: He sat there and talked about, you know, their their
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 17: offensive system and you know that was a way for
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 17: me to feel like I actually contributed in some way
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 17: because I never stepped on the field. But you know,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 17: you got to do whatever you can to help the
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 17: team win. So you know, something that I was proud
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 17: of and fortunate of having been in those systems. I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 17: could relate that.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: To those guys.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,
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  Speaker 2: Only and now great moments in history.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: I have to be honest.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: He thoroughly confuses me almost every time he calls, like
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: what what on the on the Monday?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: What like what Monday? Yesterday? Maybe a week for money
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: that there's no official practice scheduled, but there might be
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: a secret practice of some sort that we would.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: We will be live during the two Panthers Tuesday and
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: wednes Tuesday and Wednesday, right like we always I mean
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: since we started doing the joint practices, we've always right
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: done live during the joint practices.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Yep, right, yep. I don't know.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: It might be a me thing any any camp that
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: we practice we go to we'll have a camp cast
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: rap at very at.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: The very least, Paul gets very defensive when anyone asked him,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: are you going to be doing any work? It's very defensive, Well.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: We do lots of work, Like are you going to
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: continue the camp cast? Is like, you know, no, we
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: just had this year.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: We're gonna only only half a camp we're gonna do.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: We're not going to do the he knows, he knows
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: we got him.
• 1:09:32
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• 1:09:44
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• 1:09:46
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• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: few other things. But you're getting a sense of what
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Patriots and Filter is gonna look like this year.
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  Speaker 4: Sixteen footballs.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: I think that's why we get the football's over there
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  Speaker 2: pretty nice. Yep. So very excited about the new setup.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Very comfortable.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But I think the cool thing about it
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: is that it's going to change a little bit.
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• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: so it's very flexible.
• 1:10:10
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• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're talking about camp. As you saw in
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: the in the intro to the second half of the show,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: camp schedules already come out. So if you're thinking about
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: coming down to Jillette to go to training camp, at
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: least the first four days or out there.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, July twenty fourth, which is Wednesday, Thursday, July twenty fifth,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: and Friday, July twenty sixth for the first three sessions.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll be live. We'll be doing this show
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: live for each of those practices. I think the practice
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: is going to be around eleven.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, morning, gates at ten, I think, right, a little
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: later later than usually eight to ten. No, no, no, gates
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: open it till the gates gates practice starts eleven.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: I thought you said eight no, no, no gates.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, gates your block, bring a hat, Yeah, you might
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: even umbrella. It is hot there, but otherwise it's amazing.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so excited tomorrow. So they only published three days.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: No, no, those are just the first three days. All
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: of them are up, so okay they want to go
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: through all of them. Yeah sure, yeah, we got things
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: are subject to change, y copy to change. So then
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: the next session is Sunday, July twenty eighth, Monday July
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: twenty ninth, Tuesday July thirtieth. Then we got Thursday, August first,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: Friday August second, then we got Metallica if you want
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: come check that out, Saturday August third, and then Monday
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: August fifth, Tuesday August sixth, Patriots versus Panthers preseason August eighth,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: and then Monday August twelfth, and joint practice August thirteenth.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: We okay, we'll stop that. So the joint practice is
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: the thirteenth with the Eagles two days after. Yeah, if
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: there's one that you really want to see, that's the one, right.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: It's a good one. I mean, it's it'll be competitive.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, so much fun to watch. I was trying
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: to remember all the different joint practices we've done, but
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: those are the highlight of the of the preseason for sure,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: especially with a team like Philly. We did see a
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: few years what was that twenty two, I guess, so.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: I'm a few years ago. Played them the opener last year,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: which is pretty close.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: Game familiar with those guys. But yeah, it's hard to
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: believe it's camp's already here and all these like you know,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: it's like you're spinning your wheels and it's like, you know,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: you get like these points it's like, oh, man, I
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: can't wait for the camp and like as soon as
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: camp starts, we're gonna be like I can't wait.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: For getting it. I know, I know, you know, I'm
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: I'm excited about the season two. But man, life goes
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: too fast, it does, it really does. I think the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: older you get, the faster it goes. I think when
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: you're a kid, like you think about people that are thirty,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: it's like I'll never be thirty, you know, like you
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: can't even imagine that far into the future. And now
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: it's like do you know what samore?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: When you go by so fast, you notice that when
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: you see other people and you're like, geez, he looks old.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: And then you're like, I look older too. But like
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: I always when you see people your age and you
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: haven't seen them in a while, and then you're like.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, well I told I turned thirty one
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 6: on Friday, and Chris Chrisopher upstairs, like I think he
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: turned thirty. I was like I did a year ago.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: It feels like yesterday.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: Thirty was too fast. Like when you're a kid, you
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: kind of live in every moment. You live for the moment,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: and when you're an adult, you're living for like your
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: next paycheck or like we you know our schedule and
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: you know training camp. You're never living in the moment.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: That makes things go too fast.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it does. I had a moment with my dad.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: We were just we were watching some of the Actually
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: I showed him the Patriots all Access that they did
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: from Brady Night to sum it up, and it was
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: just sitting there and I was like, just like that,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: it's over. It was like Tom Brady man, this young
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: kid and twenty years and it's like boom boom all
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: and here we are watching him going to the Hall
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: of Fame, Like it just feels like yesterday that I
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: don't know this kid Brady, I don't know, but Bledsoe's
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: getting his job, Like it feels like that was yesterday.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: And I mean you were here for I mean, I
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: can't even imagine what it was like to watch it
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: go by live in front of your I mean, you know,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: granted we watching it on TV, but you know, to
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: be so immersed in it like you were a Fred.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Like every day I have to figure out how to
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: experience the metaverse so that we can experience all the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: different versions of our life life at the same time.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: And you know, it was pretty cool.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Fred, I mean you like, I mean I sudly about this,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: dude like you and Paulick. This is one of the
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: greatest runs in sports history. Oh, you guys were in
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: the thick of it. Like if you wanted to work
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: in sports when you were a kid, like you couldn't
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: have gotten a better draw, like to get to fall out.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: I've been to ten Super Bowls because I went to
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: ninety six as well, but in that span to have
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: gone to nine super Bowls, can you imagine if you
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: were like.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: Covering the Jets in this time and also just seeing
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: how big the Super Bowl's gotten since the first. It's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: always been big, but it's completely different now.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Nine super Bowls, all those AFC championships.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: You would have been on like the crappiest team in
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: the world last twenty years and be like, man, this
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: is suck. Stuck with training camp, you think, don't make
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. Now no playoffs this year, that's for sure.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: The thread of the brown just has the quarterback jersey right.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: And like having to like maybe to put it through
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: the lens of your job, Like every year you're trying
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: to get like a new quarterback hype, like all right,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: this right's Baker Mayfield this year.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: Get it's like we're both going on season five now
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: like we had six. You had the Brady training camp.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: Then my first training camp was the COVID training camp.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Then you get back and they're.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: Not allowed to sign autograph, so it's not really the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: same training camp you got mad. There's just so much
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: stuff has happened even just such a short period of time.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Right right, every whole season was different, had a different
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: reason why it sucked.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: But it must seem funny like now, like things that
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: you complained about along the way when it's like, oh yeah, man,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: you could have been covering the Browns like oh, they're
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: not gonna fly. We gotta we gotta fly right.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: To the super.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: I'll think about like the Jets the past couple of years,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: Like their training camp was at some Sunni school in.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: Upstate New York.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: So I mean, like the content team just gets in
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: the dorms.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: With them, Like I just.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: They're lucky to get the dorms. You guys are in
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: the hojos down the street.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Just off topic a little bit.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: I know Matt Morell doesn't like Acolyte. I think it's
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: been pretty good. I started it yet, all right, it's good.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: I heard good things.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: I got him. Hold on there, I go first. You
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: want me to go first? Man, you go first, and.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 15: Make sure you guys can hear me, hear you. I
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 15: like the lightsaber fights, I'll.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: Give you that.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: No, but I think the storyline is getting pretty good,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: don't you. I'm up to like episode five or six.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 15: I'm only four episodes in.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the fighting.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: I know you didn't like the lesbian witch coven. What
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: else is using the force? The Witch Coven, that's what
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: they are.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: You know, like, I haven't watched my head but a lightsaber.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 8: I think that stuff's really cool.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: That stuff is cool. And then anytime you're gonna kill
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: like a teenager in the middle of the show, it's.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Like, all right, yeah, I'm I'm digging it. And the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: boys the boy outrage outraging, out right now outrageous. I
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: gotta get back in that episode two, You're.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: Like, wow, I just watched the last episode my girlfriend scene,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: what are you watching, like, literally, what, what the heck?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Is this?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 10: Just?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Uh more or less? Yeah? So those are the two
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: things that I'm watching regularly now.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: Watch Hacks so much Hacks. I gotta throw my Hacks.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: And I haven't watched I have.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Not watched Hacks. I don't even know what it is.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: You watch the new Beverly.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: Hills Smart It's a movie, right, I did watch that.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: I watch I watched the original one.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, what I love? Do you watch the new one?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: I need to watch the So what I love about
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: the new one.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: Is like they literally just took all the music. They
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: just the same music. And I'm like, that's brilliant you
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: got you got all the same music. It's obviously the
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: same setting. And it's a little detective show. Like it's great,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, Hills copy.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, is it hilarious?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Right? But it's you want to be entertained to watch it?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: We watched it. Okay, did anyone see Biker Boys the
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Bike Riders? That what it's called. I haven't seen Austin Hooper.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Huh yeah, I want to looked intriguing to me.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: I think I'm next for Twisters. That's gonna be the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: next Did you not.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Like the original Twisters? No, not necessarily killing twister a twister?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: Sorry Twister.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: Helen Hunt is Helen Hunt back? Did they get Helen Hunt?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Helen Hunt, Helen Hunt, Kevin Bacon, Yeah, or no.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: Hudson, sorry Hudson.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: All right. You just just wanted to see what everyone's
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: watching these days.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: I know, I feel like I finally have had a
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: chance during vacation to watch a little Wimbledon, watch a
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: little ketch up on some shows. Yeah, you know, and
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: then it's all going to go by the way side.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: And forget it.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 15: Lecellan Hunt is not in the.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: Cast, big miss, big miss.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Her face will be in one of the Twisters.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: It's not like her long lost son leading it. Like,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: I think it's just a complete reboot, right, Yeah.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: Well there's a glad Eater too.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: I just saw that trailer looks and so it looks
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: like it's.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: The kids from the Gladiator one. I think I.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Couldn't make it look like that.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 6: Denzel looks awesome. It's gonna be dope.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 15: I like it's like a three minute forty watch the movie.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know it's gonna be fred Did you
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: see the.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: F one trailer, the F one trailer, Brad Pitt, it's
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: he actually drives. Yes, it's being done by the guy
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: who did Top Gun Maverick and it's coming out next
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: summer and it's an F one thing. They filmed it
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: all like in the pit of Like it's all real stuff.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Like F one is like getting bigger than NASCAR. Now
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: I know it is worldwide, but in the United States
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: it's getting bigger. That movie is gonna be awesome. Yeah,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: it's getting huge.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: Like is that one the one through like city streets
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: in the europe Stadium.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: They did it in Vegas?
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, I hope they do.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: I hope they do Vegas. I hope they do it
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: in Boston.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: So they pave the roads like, oh my.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: God, going down the northf.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: But yeah, watch the F one trailer after the show.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll let's get back to the phones.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: Eight five to five, Pats five hundred is the ACE
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: ticket outline? Fidel's in Tampa. What's up, Fidel? Thanks for
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: holding on.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 10: Hey, how are you guys doing?
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: We're doing good.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 8: Good.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 10: I have two quick things. I hate said serious back
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 10: to football, but uh, the NFL's lawsuit came to an
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 10: end about the biggest package.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, yep, I think that happened last week I talked about.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 10: But I wanted to know, like, what do you think
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 10: is going to happen? Is that's going to be?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: Like I think it's gonna be years, years of appeal
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: of appeals. And I don't think that each team is
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: going to have to pay four hundred and seventy seven
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: million dollars.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: Oh really, because every day'd have to point it up.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see that happening. The league has been
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: very strong saying that it was a ridiculous finding. Take
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: that for what it's worth. I just don't think that
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: that settlement's gonna hold. There might be something else that
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: gets settled, but this is gonna be years down the road.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be appeal after appeal after appeal.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: Wasn't every person's gonna get four thousand dollars or something?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: I want some money because this was me when I
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: was in LA. But I get you got to buy
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: the whole Sunday ticket. You couldn't just get Patriots games.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: You had to buy the whole shebangs a lot.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 6: I think I think it's each person gets four thousand,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: So I.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: Don't know how I can get four thousand if I
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: only paid like three hundred, but.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: I would have I would have I would have done more.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: I'll take four thousand.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. It's it's defining like
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: four point seven billion or something like that. That's kind
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: of a ridiculous amount. Yeah, now what do you think, uh, Fidel.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 10: Well, I was more interested like the aspect of new
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 10: rules and new players, like they would like lower the
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 10: costs or be follows to the team. Like if I
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 10: could just pay one hundred bucks and be able to
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 10: watch the Patriots games, I would do it in a heart.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: Beat, right Yeah, And like I'm not even I'm not
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not up on the case. But what are they
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: saying that the league did wrong?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: I think basically that you should be.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Able to get what.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 10: Anti trust laws, anti having a monopoly or something specific.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, I think it was just basically related to
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: having to buy every team's game. So it was all
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: you had to buy the whole package. You couldn't just
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: buy your team. That's all I know.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that to me, that was something extra that
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: they were offering in your home market. You can still
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: watch in your home market, you can still watch every
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: one of your team's games. Yep. That's I think historically
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: how they've gotten around the anti trust rules is that
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: they've always had in your market free TV for your
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: your team's games, and that never stopped. So I'm just
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: you know, like like Sunday ticket was like a bonus thing. Okay.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: In addition to that, if you want to pay, you
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: can get all the games. Yeah.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: You know they're saying that they broke anti trust right,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: thank you.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 15: Broke anti trust laws.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: Sorry one second, got that because they inflated price and
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: subscribers say that the league restricted competition by offering Sunday
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: ticket on satellite only.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, well I literally I got direct TV just to
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: get the Sunday ticket, like and put the satellite dish
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: up and everything.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're moving on.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: I'm a fan.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 10: And then one last thing. I love Matt editing all
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 10: these new intros. Please get some of the retro ones
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 10: in the ones that I missed the most were the
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 10: ones that Paul telling the story about brother getting punched
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 10: from the shower so much. I don't think I've heard
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 10: that only like two years.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: He's making a note right now, his brother got punched
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: in his father. Yeah, it's a great story. His father
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: came in and was yelling at Paul. It was had
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: to do with alcohol, and his brother was taking a
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: shower and like he said something snarky, you know, and
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: his father, right through the shower curtain, knocked them out
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: in the shower. He said, my brother's lying nude in
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: the shower, just Peter Griffin Lane. Yeah.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: So, oh man, that's a pall story for sure.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: I love all right, thanks for job.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: I think my dream NFL view and experience would be
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 6: Red Zone. But you're able to pin your game in
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 6: the corner because especially when the Pats were like in
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: their heyday on red Zone, they're never on the TV
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: because you're beating the Titans fifty nine to zero. So
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: I'm always watching the game, but as a Pats fan,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 6: I want to be able to always be able to
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: check in. I know this will never happen, but if
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: you could pin your game and just have Scott Hansen
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: through the rest of the Red Zone in the background,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: it'll be unbelievable.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: We kind of talked in the past, fread You've mentioned
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: it of like why couldn't you just have like a
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: subscription to your team's package, and it's not just your
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: team's games, but it's all your team's content, and you
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: have access to any NFL films, thing ever made about
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: your team, and you know, like it's almost like you're
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: in a little bit of a club kind of thing
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: and I kind of tailor it to you. Yeah, I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: don't know. I mean I get I get where the
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: fans are coming from that just want to see their team.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like the NFL, it's
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: this giant thing and.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: It's it's funny being on the website because you get
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: the people in western mass who are in Massachusetts, but
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: then they're getting Jets games because they're like right on
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: the border.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: Like the Giants. Yeah, Connecticut, let me forget about it. Yeah,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: Giants fans.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of rules in the NFL
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: that are a little antiquated, and some of them were
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: made when you know, it was more important to sell
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: out your stadium than it was to have a huge
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: TV audience. Yeah, And a lot of the rules were
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: to protect the home market. You know, for like there
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: were days in New England where or in Massachusetts where
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: you had to go to New Hampshire to watch the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: Patriots because of the blackout rule, which they don't have anymore.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: But if you're if you're if your stadium wasn't sold
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: out like I think within forty eight hours of the game,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: you couldn't show it on TV. So people would literally
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: drive up to New Hampshire rent a motel room to
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: watch the.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: Patriots instead of buying a ticket and going to the Yeah.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to that dump. Yeah, but that was
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: the thing they're trying to force people to buy tickets. Now,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: your your ticket revenue is just gravy. You make your
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: money on everything else, you know, So a lot of
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: some of the rules need to be changed, you know.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Let's see web radio at patries dot com. Is the
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: email address Alex in North Carolina. I'm with Matt on this.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Lightsaber Fights were great. Acting as subparties talk about the
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: Acolyte story is average. I have much higher hopes for
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: the show. It's it's fine.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: It's it's fine.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Is it adult based like I know and or was?
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: It's a little bit more. I think that's what's weird.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: I think is that it in the initial episodes, it
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: feels a little bit more kid Disney and then all
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: of a sudden they have this giant fight and like
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: two main characters.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 15: It's like a CW show. That's exactly how it is.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 15: It's a teenage show. It's more for like eighteen to
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 15: twenty year olds.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah maybe maybe. Yeah.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: The last Star Wars thing that stands out to me
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: was I think it was the Obi wan Lea running away.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the chase terrible. Oh that was that was awful.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you get Disney. You can't make
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: that look more real. You know, she's like ducking on
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: the branches and they're like a branch, you know. Yeah,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: like that was that was terrible.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: I think the Mandalorian is is the gold standard of
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: that in Rogue one of New Star.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: Wars, and but I kind of like that. I kind
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: of like the whole backstory of Boba Fete. We were
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: brought up by the Tuscan Raiders and all that. I
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: thought that was pretty cool.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: I thought that was okay. I thought that one was okay.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: I felt a little bit like fan like over the
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: I like, I love fan service in select moments, like
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: I love in the beginning of Mandalorian where you heard
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: the very first episode you heard the carbon freezing chamber
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: from Empire Strikes Back, and like I was like, oh
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: my god, Like they know exactly what they're doing. Like
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: I like those subtle hints, but like if it's going
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: to be over the top and we're trying to connect
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: everything and you know, just to put stuff on for fans,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: then I don't know. I don't But that's why this
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: new show, it's like it's all new, like it's there's
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: you know, it's we're way before all those times, and so.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: So this is a hundred years before the first Star Wars.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: You're getting to see a little bit of that stuff.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just I just wonder if and
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: I felt like this would happen once Disney took it
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: that it's just too much like the Star Wars was
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: good when it's a little bit you know, it's like
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: show after show after show, and they're not all going
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: to be magical and cool. I think this one has moments,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: and but I watched there's a couple episodes.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I thought it was pretty cool. Yeah,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: I think I'm I'm you know, eager to see the
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: next episode. You know. Yeah, Ted's in Las Vegas. I
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: just watched Danny Parkins on Fox's The Herd. He was
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: filling in for Colin Coward. Uh Parkins, I guess it's.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: Parkins gave his top ten quarterbacks he would start a
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: team with. Number ten was Trevor Lawrence, but Parkins said
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Lawrence was a tough decision, and his first quarterback out
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: of his top ten where Anthony Richardson and Drake May. Wow,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: so they were like eleven to twelve. Yeah, I guess.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: So that's pretty crazy. That's that's really high because wasn't
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: there some where's he got Kayla Williams poll On, John Dingles,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: the twitter that was going around that Drake May was
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: the worst quarterback in the NFL. Oh jesus. Yeah.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: The Anthony Richardson one is interesting because how many games
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: you played, like three or four?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty excited. Oh yeah, he's definitely the grass
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: is greener, you know, because he's so athletic, right people,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the funny thing about like what's it going
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: to take to have positive things? Like I don't know,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: maybe he plays like two great games and then it's
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: lost for the year and then you're like we got him,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: like wet like you know, you don't know, like what
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: you don't know?
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: So he's amazing. The Colts might be like the you know,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: the Cinderella of a lot of people.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 6: The Cinderella potentially could have pulled a Texans, I know division,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: but I was I remember being like, oh, we get
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: to watch Anthony Richardson in Germany and get Gardner minshew, yeah, yeah,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 6: we'll get to see him.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: They could be the sleeper. There's a scene like all these.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: Guys though, it just goes back to there's a lot
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: of good young quarterbacks and I'm like, off the top
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: of my head trying to think of which teams right
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: now don't have a promising young quarterback. Like I mean,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: they're obviously the Giants, the Giants, you know, like that.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 6: Think about the Jets, you think about the Panthers. Like
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 6: with Bryce, like is he going to bounce back? Like
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 6: you forget about him?
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: There's a great one. That's a great one, like no
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: one's afraid of Carolina, but like he is the first
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: overall pick from last year. So I don't know, it's
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: just it's it's you said, maybe I'm just going back
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: to the days when it's like all right, if we're
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: not playing Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning or you know, like
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: one of those guys like I don't care like but
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: now it's like every single quarterback almost around the league,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: except for a handful of teams, has some kind of promise.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, you said Aaron Rodgers that he's definitely not young,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: but like he's good.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: But you know, I'm saying because it's not young, yeah.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: You know, but and I don't want to say like
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: teams that they believe in their quarterback because I don't
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: know if these teams do believe in their quarterback. But
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: you know, it's like Atlanta, the Giants, Like there's just
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: a handful of teams that.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 6: I mean, the only teams that don't scare are like
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: the Broncos and maybe the Raiders, a good one, like
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: the Raiders. Who's even is a minshew the Raiders.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: That's well it would probably be the last year. O'Connor.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, O'Connell. Yeah, those those are two.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: That's a good one.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: But other than that, everybody's like.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: Got somebody young that they're still waiting to find out
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: there you're going to be good or not. I mean,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: Richardson is a great example of you know a guy
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: who seems like he could maybe change that dynamic in
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: the AFC South where everybody just seems like, after last year,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: wants to hand it to Houston.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: Uh, Dan and Virginia and Michigan studio looks good. Those
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: chairs look a bit too comfy, though. Where's the good
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: money in terms of betting which member of the podcast
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: falls asleep on air?
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: Maybe, I don't know.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: Postgame show at a night game, man, you were good.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: Well, we'll be in our other shares for that one,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: that's true. It'll be like, well, there's only.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: What like one night game, maybe the morning game for
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: the the preseason.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: The preseason games are gonna be the hardest one. I
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: can't wait for that preseason game. That was so fun
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: last year when we came in like early morning for
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: the Germany game. We're kind of, you know, still jet lag,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: a little out of it, but I mean it was
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: the best part of that game was the pregame.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: Matt played the interview with Brian Hoyer during the PEU halftime.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: They discussed the assist Hoyer gave the defense with his
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: experience with mcveigh's offenses given how thin the margin was
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: and how much the defense credited Hoyer's insights with helping
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: them win. Do you think the Patriots still win that
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: game without Hoyer? Maybe not? Which which game is? What
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: are we doing? I don't know, McVeigh.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: So the Rams did the Hoyer help guide in here?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: This part of it? I guess he got helped them
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: get ready for I don't know. I think the story
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: that that game was the defense and oh yeah the
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: Rams couldn't do anything. But I mean, I guess I
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: guess that feeds into it. It's the same thing with
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: what's uh, who's the guy that did Peyton Manning in
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: two thousand and three? Same thing? Everybody gave him a
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: ton of credit. One of the backup court, Damon Heward.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was actually a very smart quarterback.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: What what do you think Hoyer's future is? Is he
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 6: still on a team or like?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: No, No, he was.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: On Good Morning Football a little bit.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: I think you might see him around the team this preseason.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: I don't want to give away anything.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: But a player I didn't like on a team, But
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: I've grown to like him a little bit more. I
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: used to not be a fan of him, especially that
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: when he sliced.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: Braid was it.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: Hoyerheads Hoyer, he just we went we were one and
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: two rules with him, just like it was like he's
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: a bad luck chron But.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: Hoyer had a good line that they picked up on
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: All Access right before they were waiting on the stage
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: to go on before Brady, and he's like, man, his
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: real Hall of Fame induction is going to be like
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: nothing compared. It's gonna be like a letdown compared to this.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: I agree about that.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: I just don't see it being as special.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: Well, plus, it's not just him, Yeah, you know, feel
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: bad for people. I don't know. I guess I'm being
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: a little sacrilegious here, but I really find those canton
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: ceremonies boring, boring as hell. You know, Oh so and
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: so good up and he cried during his They all cry.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: You know. It's the same speeches, it's the same message.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: And it's great for them. Listen, I get it. It's
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: the highest individual honor in the NFL and all that,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: and I'm happy for everyone that gets inducted, But as
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: a as a an event, I find it boring. I'm sorry,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: have you have you been? No?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: No, just watch on TV me too. I mean certain
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: players I like, I like to hear what they have
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: to say. I mean, I do think some of the
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: speeches are pretty good. But yeah, I mean, that'll do
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: a whole thing for that. I mean, I don't we
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: just kind of be there.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: To observe and report, right, it's just not going to
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: be blow it out. We'll go and you know, there's
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: a party. You know, that's that's the thing. It's so
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: funny because nowadays you get inducted to the Hall of
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: Fame and you it's almost like you have to go
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: on a fundraising tour to fund your party afterwards. It's
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: like there's like a competition that like who can have
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: the best party after the after the the day. Let's
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: do it at Michael Rubin's house. Yeah.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: Well, if Bill doesn't get another job, they could be
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: back to back years. You got could be big guys
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: going in.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see what.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 6: Will he be twenty eight Brady, it's.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: Five years, five years, so this is one, No, this
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: is two, so three years from now seven seven? Yeah,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: first ballot, right, Like, tell me in that room who's
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: not voting on the first ballot? I will punch him
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: in the head, you know, because that would be ridiculous. Man,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: you and your principals on one last spiteful move from
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: good yeah.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: Just Bill Pollyon have a vote?
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: Yea somebody something like that, you know or somebody from Indianapolis?
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: Was that guy? Is that Greg Doyle? Does he have
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: a vote? Well?
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: No, I mean he got nothing right now because he
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: had like some awkward interaction with Caitlyn Clark.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: I guess right right, yeah, creep spiin Fresno. Tonality wise,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: Evan's take on fruit is the most Eric thing about
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: him so far, although for Eric the specific aversion would
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: be to eating meat while watching football and having a girlfriend. Anyway,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: I love Jacoby Myers as a patriot, and in retrospect
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: his excommunication to Vegas seems like another nail in the
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: coffin of Bill's GMing. But at the same time I
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: thought Juju would be a slight upgrade, maybe replacing a
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: three with a two. Boy? Was I wrong? Looking back?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: If we were to sneak into Bill's mind, which of
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: the following reasons do you guess factored in most when
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: he foolishly sent Jacoby packing that Meyers sided with Mac
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: in the Mac versus Patricia conflict. The lateral to Chandler Jones,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Jacoby's lack of touchdown receptions or being an undrafted free agent.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: I think number one. I think one. I think number one.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: I think he wasn't he wasn't all in in the
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: locker room.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: I think the Myers thing was interesting too, because he
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 6: was great for us, but the franchise tag for receiver
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: is so ridiculous. You're not going to pay Jacoby Myers?
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: Was it thirty three billion? Like, no, it's a lot
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 6: for one year.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: No, that's not him, that's not him. I mean, I
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: do think. I mean, and I was right with speed,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: same thing like Evan two, Like all three of us
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: were all just like terrible take. We were wrong to
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: ever think that Juju will replaced. But I mean the
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: thing I did say at the time, which I still
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: kind of think, is that I think he felt like
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: we need to get more explosive. And I know that's
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: a joke right now when you compare to Juju, but
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: I think that was probably some of the thinking too,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: was that we're not going to overextend ourselves for you know,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: a guy who's certainly reliable to Mac, but you know,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: isn't a true game changer now, like I could have
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: a field day arguing against that now, but at the
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: time that was kind of my thinking.
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  Speaker 6: My biggest disappointment is that that's an undrafted free agent
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 6: who bought in.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's three year deal.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 6: He would have a three year I just how is
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 6: that not the guy that you want because of that?
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: Because of he went against Bill, and I think that's
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: probably one of the reasons Bill's not here. He spoke
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: out I want to boke out at least two times
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: that we know of, and if we know of two times,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: probably there's more that we don't know about.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 6: What's also crazy because that's you're going against Bill. But
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 6: like when he scored his first touchdown, when Hoyer through it,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: the whole like he was clearly loved in locker room,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: the whole team ran to him like yeah, So it's
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: just that's a frustrating thing to see.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is frustrating. And I mean Jacoby was a
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: great guy and I mean was again productive and the
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: Raiders with tomultuous season there.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: Like a player. Yeah, completely different point.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: Now, it's disappointing. I hear everything you say though about
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: the undrafted rookie who was there in the big moments
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: and you know all that stuff. It's just it's uh yeah,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: it's unfortunate. I'd love to still have him here. But again, like,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: do you think Pop Douglas might be the better player
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: than Jacoby Myers?
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: Like, they're very different. They're very different. I mean, you're
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: not going to get the dynamic plays that we hope
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: Pop Douglas is going to give us going forward. But
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: he was reliable Myers. Oh yeah, he was reliable.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: I would never.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: Flaw the break, but he was always there in the
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: middle of few. Yeah. Yeah, and think about it, like
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: they were easy to defend back then. But still he
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: got his catches my one of my favorite things.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 6: But I think he said he wanted to come here
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: as an undrafted free agent because Nikhil Harry was a
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 6: first round pick and he wanted to prove that he
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 6: was just as good, if not better than the first round.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: I like that. I like that swag. Love that. Yeah,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: Alex in North Carolina, Deuce. I've also been watching more
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: tennis this tournament. Alcaraz is ridiculous and Taylor Tyler. Fritz
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: is finding his footing. He is big win against Verev.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: I would love to hear Fretz take about our American
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: tennis stars on men's and women's side, How good do
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: you think they are? Well, we're not going to do
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: that here, but we can have a tennis show later on.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: Did you watch Challengers?
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 8: No?
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: Well sometimes, but I think Djokovic also showed hist So
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: he's playing Runa. Uh his name is Runa, this kid,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: right his last name? No, he's uh from He's Dutch
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: something like that. So you know, he's young, he's you know,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: good looking, you know, so the fans are sharing for
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: him and they're going Runa, and Djokovic thought they were
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: booing him, you know when he starts, you know, he
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: said the whole thing after him, he's got the rabbit here,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: so like during this he's like what what what? They
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: weren't booing him? So then afterwards, you know, he's doing
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: his on court interview and the guy's like, I hope
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: you understand that they were probably you know, Runic goes, no,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: I don't accept that. I know when someone's booing they
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: were booing me, Like, no, they weren't.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: And then he did like the violin thing, well that
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: was for.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: His kid who was taking violin.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: Lesson that thought he was like the smallest.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: That was different. That was for his kid. But like
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: they were saying, runa like the good thing you weren't
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: playing Bruski because they would have, you know, like he
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: thought they were booing him. And he's such he's got
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: such thin skin. The reason why people don't get behind
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: him is because he asked for people to get behind Like,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: you can't do that. It's got to be natural, Like,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: you can't. You can't complain when people don't applaud for
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: you more than your opponent. That's the worst thing you
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: can do. Now they're you know, it's like begging for
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know, please applause, yeah, please clap please.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: So that was bad, like something like I don't want
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: to go like people be like Frank, stop talking about tennis.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: All right, I will, but we'll do it at some
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: other point. But he has a football question, does Alex
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: uh If Bill was still here, do you think he
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: would have drafted Drake May at three or would he
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: have taken a different position Altogether? I'm torn as to
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: what he would have done, But I do wonder if
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: this is a quarterback he would have chose.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: I would I would lean no, I would lean no,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: and I I mean, I think I think a trade down.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: I think he would really be intrigued by Joe al
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: I think like a player like that, like.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 8: Player.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: Let's let's go back a little bit to the end
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: of the season. They finished the same way they finished,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: but somehow, some way, they've got that post season meeting
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: and Bill talks Robert Craft to say, here's the reasons
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: why things happen. Blah blah blah, let's take another run
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: at this, and he talks Robert Craft into doing it. Okay,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: so now that's your setting keeping Mac. No, no, no,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: we don't know that yet, just to keep Bill. So
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: Robert's been talked into keeping Bill. So now the off
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: season goes as it has. You know, you got the
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: same pick. Obviously. Does Bill look at this any differently?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: And does he say, you know what I'm gonna We're
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: done with Mac? You know, you think he would.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: I think he was telling with Mac. I think you would.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: I think Kirk Cousins, I.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: Think, so, you think he's done with Mac. But he
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have picked Drake. May I think he would have.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 10: I liked.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: I think the JJ is not a bad idea either.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, I could you know, I think he'd be
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: trying to get him a little later.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 6: Maybe I also want to stay real quick that less
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 6: like it's tough because we know the way the board dropped.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 6: But like remember people thought Panix was going round two
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 6: number eight, So it's just I think, I mean.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: No, the JJ McCarthy one is a good one because
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: more nfl ready yeah, but see more of a pocket passer.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 4: But but I think Fred, if he's to talk Robert
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: Craft into this, it's it's not a long term thing,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: like I mean, you're this is it like you got
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: one more year? And that's why I think they make
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: a push for Kirk Cousins. He gets a veteran quarterback,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe allows Bill O'Brien to round out his
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: staff and and hire the guys that he wants and
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: then you know, go with Alt And I don't even
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: know about the quarterback because if you get Kirk Cousins
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: for a couple of years, what difference does it make?
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: But they still what about all the signings? Do they
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: sign all these guys? No, that's they give Barber the deal?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: Do they give you know, Hunter, Henry and Stevenson?
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: I could see un I think Hunter Henry I would
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: say yes because there wasn't anything there. He loves tight ends.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: I think that was an easy one to buy.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: All the guys on deep I can see to.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, I have a harder time with Barmore just
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: because big deal, and.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 6: You know, Barmore just stands his ground. I think the
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 6: deal gets done, but just like a huge here's a question, Fred,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 6: is this.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick with the money or Elliott Wolf with the money?
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: Like does it make a difference, Like you know what
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like like it's Robert Craft's money. So like
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 4: with that contract, Like would Bill Belichick be like, I'm
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: not gonna do that much, but Elliott Wolf says I
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: will do that much? Or is it?
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: Well, we got to go get it. A lot of
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: times Bill not spending money wasn't just because of the money.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: It was because of the order of the locker room.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: It's because if I give this guy this money, I
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: disrupt the locker room. And I there's a pecking order
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: that I think Bill always paid attention to who's making
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: the most at each position, who's making the most overall?
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: And does that make sense to keep the locker room right?
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of times it wasn't just
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: too much money, it was who I'm paying that to.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: We'll tie out to mc myers then, you know, which
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: just kind of shows some of the wishy washy nature
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: of how things kind of went at the end where
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: you didn't quite know what you were going to get.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: But this is like this exercise that we're doing right now,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: to me, tells us why Bill's not here anymore. All
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: this complication, you know, So like if let's just say
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: they had that meeting at the end and he talks
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: Robin into keeping him, there has to be conditions, right,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: so is one of the conditions that Elliott is more involved,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: Like you know, you don't have the pocketbook anymore, you're
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: not making all the personnel decisions.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: So but there's also like the fact that and I
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: don't know if Bill knew this, but it was in
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: Girod's contract, right.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: That so well that eventually like that have to be
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: this year, so that.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: Whole thing would continue to kind of hang over his
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: head too, which makes men want do.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: We get confirmed that it was in his contract, that
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: that was true, that like someone of those things. Yeah,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: I know, So I don't know if that's.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: You make the jumps.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 6: But I think the interesting pick obviously the number three,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 6: but I think that second round pick would have been
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 6: I don't think it would have been Pulk if Bill.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: Was here, probably defense maybe or a tackle.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: Saf just a fourth round receiver Cooper de Gene, Well,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 4: that would have been no. But I think to Fred's
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: point of conditions, like you have to address the offense.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: You cannot just buy a bunch of defensive guys in
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: free agency in the draft. Leg now we need to
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: address this.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: There was too much to be done. It was time. Yeah,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: it was time. And I know, you know, the the
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: billbots out there are you know, attacking me on Twitter
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: now as we speak. But it was time.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: As much as Bill did for this organization, I'll be
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: forever grateful, it was time.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 4: It was a lot of things too. Is that this
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: was another one of the questions in the mail bag,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: and it's like it's in so many of these points
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: that we talked about over the last five years of
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 4: you know, why did it fall apart? And it's you know,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: he's easy to put on missdraft.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: The real question is how did it stay together for
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: over twenty years? That's the real question. Yeah, yeah, that's
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: the real question.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: Because I said, by the time you got to seventeen
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: eighteen nine, like those three years, the snowball was going
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: down the mountain. Now it was getting bigger and bigger,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: and the lack of talent and the coaching departures and then,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: you know, and I think what was just so jarring
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: to me was I just always felt like when we
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 4: you know, we talked about these Brady Belichick stuff, that
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 4: we could always at least count on a Bill Belichick
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: team to not beat themselves. You know, like that was
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: just my baseline of like, as long as they're going
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: to that's what our special sauces and that's what will
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: make this place still special after Tom Brady. That will
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: have a well prepared team that will have good game plans.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: They won't make stupid mistakes, they won't decide to throw
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: a lateral in a tie game with the kind and
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: that's where you end.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: And that's where they end up. And then special teams you, okay,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: everything else is terrible. Special teams is going to be
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: good and terrible.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: Was That's great, That's a great point too.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: You know, what was going on so many.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 4: Of the things that if you would ask me in
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty when we were talking about Bill and Tom
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: and everyone's making fun of me for, you know, being
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of like the same thing you're saying
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: about Bill was how I felt where it was just time,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: you know. But now it's like you look back and
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: it's like all the signs were there. But I just
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: never would have expected that they would have fallen that
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: badly with the simple football stuff, big decisions in the
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: in the critical moments, and they just became a team
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: that couldn't do that anymore.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: Eric writes in Let's see Where's he from? New Jersey,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: and he says, a few weeks ago, someone I think
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: it was Spee wrote in asking how the crew would
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: compare it to the Seinfeld characters. The gang entertained the
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: game for a second, but then moved on, saying there
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: wasn't a good fit. I disagree. The answer is simple.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: Fred is seinfelt, good natured and successful. Fred's immaturity Hides's rudeness.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: Of course, Fred's liability is the reason we all keep
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: coming back. Fred provides a great setting for the other
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: three odd balls. Paul is George Fred's Foyle. Paul is
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: both hot headed and erotic. He has a lot of
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: useless information and is an underachiever. Most importantly, like George
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: and Seinfeld, he is the true star of the show.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: Mike is Kramer. Mike has a lot of quirky stories
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: and perspectives. His grandpa knew Ted Williams. He once burned
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: down his parents' cabin straight from a Seinfeld episode. That's true,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: And he once came on the show completely loopy from
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: lack of sleep. Also, like Kramer, Mike tried to make
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: it in Hollywood for a while.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: That's true. You told me I'm Kramer.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: Evan is Elaine. I would like to venture to guess
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: he is the worst dancer in the group. Compared to
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: Fred's other two sidekicks, he seems relatively sane. Also, he's
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: the least masculine. That's pretty good. Pretty good at Eric
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: from New Jersey. This character comp also dovetails with something
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: Evan said two weeks ago that bumped me. Is that
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: a kid thing?
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: He bumped me?
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: Really? Okay? He thinks putting ikea furniture together is a
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: manly job and a worthy accomplishment. Putting I can't furniture
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: together is legos for adults. Only one tool is required
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: and that puny little allan wrench comes in the box.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: This activity requires no grit, strength of ingenuity. That Eric,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a damn good email.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: That's a damn good email.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: We didn't answer that because you weren't here. Yeah, we
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: needed your take. But speaking of that, I don't know
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: if you guys ever got to this, but we were
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: talking about mowing lawn. When your moa lawn, there's that
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: sense of accomplishment.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: A man Jason and Rocky Hill, Connecticut sends in a poem,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: uh about that. Yeah, this is a poem by Douglas
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: Mallock and he says the man who never had you
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: got to say this in the Ted Baxter, you know,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: or the man who never had to toil to gain
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: and farm his patch of soil, who never had to
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: win his share of sun and sky and light and air,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: never became a manly man, but lived and died as
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: he began. Oh so that's happened. I love it.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: Put it on my graystone. Well that was me, Fred,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: because I the last few days I've had a staycation,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: which I haven't done in a while, and it's been amazing,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: but it's time to get stuff done around the house.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: And I did mulch along my walkway, like so this
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 4: has been a progression.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: I did mulch around along.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: My walkway up to my front steps.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, when we moved in, hold on black molt, brown molt,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: brown molt. The brown red didn't go with the cedar
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: red one with the dark stuff. But when we first
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: moved in, we had these old shrubs that were all
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: they're kind of like not like pine trees, but kind
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: of needles on it.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 4: They're just gross. And they were like eight of them.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: They were all dead. They've been picked apart. So you know,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: over the last six months, I bought like a little
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 4: chainsaw took those things just out like it didn't get
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: a stuck grinder, did myself. The little chainsaw got it out.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 4: And then this weekend I put down, you know, a
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 4: weed matt and put down my mulch. I did it
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: before and after picture, and I was like, you know,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 4: and it's like it's so simple, Like I mean, I
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: probably spent fifty bucks at home deep on mulch and
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 4: weed covered, and I'm like, why do I wait this
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: long to do it? But I just sat there and
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 4: you know, and then I mowed my lawn two days
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: ago and I'm like the mould lawn with the mults.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 13: And.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I sure, I've taken the land and I've molded
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: it to the shape that I want.
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  Speaker 4: You know, That's what I was doing. But another part
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: of those we have that not weed. I always bring
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: up that Japanese not weed, which is the.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: Fight jape your weed.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: It's this invasive species that's like all around and I
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: notice it everywhere now, but it's a problem on.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: The cape with the invasive species. They're everywhere.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: I don't see the not weed as much, but it's
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like bamboo and it just it shoots
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: and it goes everywhere.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: And oh and it's got the green broad leaves. Oh yeah,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: they're everywhere. They're easy to knock down, but they just
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: keep coming.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: They just keep coming back, and it's, uh, it's an
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: unending battle. Like the people who lived before us, I
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: guess they planted it because back in like the seventies,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 4: it was like a groundcover thing. So it's uh. But
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: like you're reading that poet, I'm like picturing myself like
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: hacking my struggle. Yeah, it's it's fun.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: In the cape, there's a lot of invasive spec invasive
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: species species, yeah species. Yeah. You get a lot of
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: turtles that come up from the pond to lay their eggs.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: We got like four or five of the turtles.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 6: We have audubon like always uh blocking off their eggs
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 6: and stuff.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but and like within a day some animal came
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: and digs them up and eats off. Yeah.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a little leathery turtle.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say, like, you know, if I was
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: an animal, I think turtle eggs would be my go to.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: It would be sort of like chicken.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 6: Wings, isn't like when the turtles are hashed, they can
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: have the free fall to the water, but you're not
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 6: allowed as a human to like help them. It's like
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: because we had it in our yard and you just
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 6: have like twenty for all the birds.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: Are just going and yeah, I know, I know, all
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, there's like they pop out one day.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: Remember my huge finely you can't touch it.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: I'll still snap you watch snap. You get the snapping
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: turtles get you get your finger.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, so a lot of snakes too.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: About the gardener Staing.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: Sunday ticket, Yeah, the House of the Dragon. Yeah, I tried.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: I tried, watched the first ten minutes of it. I'm like,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: I just don't care my issues.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 6: They're all the same name. I don't know who's who.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just watching us.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 10: Well.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the shows, Pascal writes about Star Wars, the
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: story was lacking in places where they should have understood
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: the force better. No way a Sith or Jedi master
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: wouldn't immediately recognize their apprentice's dark side in light side energy.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: Oh interesting, Okay, I haven't watched all the episodes. I
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: think he's referring to some of that. Yeah, but uh, yeah,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 6: It's uh, just give me another movie. I'm done with
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 6: the shows.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: Trent a couple of quick things. He says, as Fred
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: would say, the way you do with five guys hot
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: Dog is with Mustard relish, raw onion, bacon, jolapnos, and
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: cheese profecto. That's much a lot, And Paul, you are wrong.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: Stevenson has made major impacts on games. He single handedly
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: won the game in twenty twenty two for Vegas.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: All right, he did start it. He doesn't get enough
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: craft for that, Like, I don't even know if anyone
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: asked him about it, like what were you thinking of there?
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 6: I think he was thinking that the other two people
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 6: were gonna let Jacoby.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: Was My favorite though, was like imagining Jacoby's of like, well,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: we're doing it, we're doing it, Like like what did
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: he think? Like it couldn't have been anything that was
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: mentioned before that point, like reminder just went broke.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 6: They watched The Longest Yard the day before the schoolyard bs.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 6: It's almost like they thought they were losing such a
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 6: tough sports day.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: It's just don't turn the ball over and the game
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: keeps playing.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 6: And that's the difference is that the past the Patriots
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 6: never used to do that stuff.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 4: I know, and if there was a team, Yeah, there
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 4: was one clip that you could that sums up the
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: decline of that team. It's that.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 6: But then it was also, wasn't that we uh the
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 6: week one fumble against Miami? They did again against the Bengals.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 6: I think that's the same year. It's just, yeah, there's
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 6: always something.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: There was on time Todd and Garner, North Carolina, if
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: you are correct, and Bill was eyeing the money. Was
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: he capped by Crafts to include his salary and the
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: overall money paid out or is Bill trying to ensure
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: that he just maintained a specific level to justify his
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: own salary. Was always curious about how Bill's compensation affected
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: or didn't affect the team. It's a good question.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: You've talked about that.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: It just seems like a conflict of interest to me
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: to like, well, any money you don't spend you get
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 4: to you get, Like, yeah, it seems like.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: It seems like it should have been separate. However, like
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if you know, Craft at some
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: point said well, you know, I shouldn't have to have
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: the highest payroll in the NFL because I've got you sure,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: and I'm paying you as the highest coach in sports,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: you know, so that I don't have to have all
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: that to me is why not have both? You know? So,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: like that's not a but it could you know, it
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: could be.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 4: It's just weird to incentivize not spending money, you know,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: It's like I incentivize win out.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: It could affect the other coaches' salaries, Like you don't
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: need to bring in all the high powered coordinators.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: That see and that I can see Bill.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm paying you.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 4: You know, I could see Bill advocating for that to yeah,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: you know, maintain the hierarchy. But again, that whole system
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 4: fell apart to all these like you know, young coaches
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 4: that you know you should have somehow nurtured and kept
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 4: them here. All you know left.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: Well, tell you what didn't fall apart is the show
• 1:57:19
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• 1:57:24
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• 1:57:31
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• 1:57:34
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• 1:58:12
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