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Episode #3962 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive Hour · The World of Phil Hendrie

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's Phil Hendry here for our Radio Archive Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Today's featured Radio Archive Hour is from January 2006. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of unusual. Only in so far as we reveal
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  Speaker 1: just for the second time I think in the history
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  Speaker 1: of the show that Jason J. Delmonico was her son
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  Speaker 1: was adopted Margaret's very proud of Jason J. Delmonico. He's
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  Speaker 1: a child actor in this particular show Margaret is having
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  Speaker 1: a party for all of the cast members of a
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  Speaker 1: movie called the day Manhattan died It's a comedy that
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  Speaker 1: takes place around 9-11. Yeah, sure Jason J. Delmonico, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: is a messenger boy in the movie. He rides up.
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  Speaker 1: He sees that the Twin Towers have been flattened. He
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  Speaker 1: was going to deliver a box of chocolates. He realizes
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  Speaker 1: that he can't, so he opens the chocolates, starts eating
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  Speaker 1: them himself, and he rides off. So... You're kidding. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: this is the wind. Anyway, let's listen, shall we? From
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  Speaker 1: January 2006, Margaret talks about her son, her movie star son,
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  Speaker 1: Jason J. Delmonico, how proud she is of him, and
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  Speaker 1: also the fact that as an adopted child, a valued
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  Speaker 1: adopted child, he's almost like a fresh bologna sandwich that
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  Speaker 1: was pulled out of a garbage dump.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Here it is. He had misgivings about the movie that
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  Speaker 1: your son's in. What is the movie about?
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  Speaker 3: The movie, Phil, is a very daring film. It is
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  Speaker 3: a comedy. It is based on the events around 9-11.
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  Speaker 3: It is very daring. It is very groundbreaking. But as
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  Speaker 3: I said to Bill and as I've said to a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people, I think after three and a half,
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  Speaker 3: almost four years, we can begin to get over ourselves
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  Speaker 3: just a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so it's a comedy based upon... the World
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  Speaker 1: Trade Center being attacked.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and I can tell you there's a very funny scene.
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  Speaker 3: Jason's in one scene. He plays a messenger boy in
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  Speaker 3: Manhattan on the morning of the tragedy of 9-11, and
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  Speaker 3: he's delivering a box of chocolates from a young man
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  Speaker 3: to a young lady. And when he gets to the
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  Speaker 3: place that he's going to deliver them to, which is
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  Speaker 3: the World Trade Center, and it's been completely destroyed, it's
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  Speaker 3: a very funny scene. He shrugs, he opens up the
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  Speaker 3: box of chocolates, and he starts to eat them, and
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  Speaker 3: he rides away.
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  Speaker 1: All right, look, I don't want to, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But, Phil, that's really not the point of what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: The point of what I'm talking about is that I
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  Speaker 3: created for my son a career. Jason was adopted. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you know that or not.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you told me that he's adopted.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we adopted Jason. Frank and I, late in life,
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  Speaker 3: decided to have a child. We adopted him. And I
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  Speaker 3: set about the task for myself of making something out
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  Speaker 3: of this kid who'd been adopted. And when you adopt
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  Speaker 3: a child, what you're really doing is you're pulling a
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  Speaker 3: human off of, for want of a better term, off
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  Speaker 3: of a scrap heap. And you're putting them to good use.
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  Speaker 3: And what we're doing with Jason, we're loving him and
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  Speaker 3: we're building a career for him.
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  Speaker 1: All right, but let me get back to this movie
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  Speaker 1: if I could, all right?
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  Speaker 3: That's fine, but I think it's beside the point.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's right. And I'm not going to criticize. I
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  Speaker 1: personally don't really see anything to laugh about 9-11. But
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  Speaker 1: now the movie is a comedy, so you said it's controversial.
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  Speaker 1: Is it not unusual for a man to walk up
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  Speaker 1: to somebody having seen a controversial movie and express an opinion?
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  Speaker 3: Not in the middle of a party that I'm throwing
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  Speaker 3: and that he is the beneficiary of. He's drinking my drinks.
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  Speaker 3: He's eating my food. And he comes over to me
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  Speaker 3: and says, well, I felt the movie was in bad taste.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it had low moral character. And I looked
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  Speaker 3: at him. I turned on my heel. I wheeled around
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  Speaker 3: and I looked at him and I said, now, you
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  Speaker 3: listen to me and you listen real good. If you
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  Speaker 3: think you're going to bumble into a party that I'm
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  Speaker 3: giving for a young child that I adopted, pulled off
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  Speaker 3: of a scrap heap and made a career for, and
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  Speaker 3: if you think that you're going to do that in
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  Speaker 3: my home.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to cry. I don't like the term
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  Speaker 1: scrap heap.
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  Speaker 3: Please listen to me, Phil.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I said to Bill, I said, if you think you're
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  Speaker 3: going to start criticizing my son's work, I said, this
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  Speaker 3: is everything I've ever dreamed for. My son now has
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  Speaker 3: a part in a major motion picture. And with that,
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  Speaker 3: I turned on my heel, and I walked away.
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  Speaker 1: Margaret Gray joins us, a nationally syndicated columnist. Her son
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  Speaker 1: is Jason J. Delmonico. He's a young actor who will
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  Speaker 1: be appearing very shortly in a film called The Night
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  Speaker 1: Manhattan Died. Now, this is produced by Ellis Murgans.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's Ellis Morgan's production company, and I know it
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  Speaker 3: has a great deal of artistic cachet, and I think
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  Speaker 3: is really begging to be looked at. And it's the
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  Speaker 3: kind of film that I think Redford is going to
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  Speaker 3: want at Sundance. In fact, the word is, and this
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  Speaker 3: is just from some preliminary sources, but the word is,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm using the quote that they used with me,
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  Speaker 3: they're salivating to get their hands on it. This could
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  Speaker 3: be bigger than Fahrenheit 9-11.
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  Speaker 1: Another movie I didn't like.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Phil, you know, you and I have gone around
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  Speaker 3: and around about that. But what I'm saying to you
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  Speaker 3: is this. Some parents are not proud of their children.
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  Speaker 3: Some parents, maybe they're disappointed that their children are losers
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  Speaker 3: or they're not very bright. When I adopted Jason J. Delmonico,
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  Speaker 3: lifted him out of, you know, this.
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  Speaker 1: You called it a scrap heap. Is that really an apt... Well,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Phil.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm saying is children that are adopted, orphans... He
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  Speaker 3: was an orphan boy. And he had no future. His
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  Speaker 3: mother was a crack addict. His father was non-existent.
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  Speaker 1: I understand, and I think it's a good thing when
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  Speaker 1: you give them a life.
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  Speaker 3: All right. So the boy, you know, any child that's
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  Speaker 3: adopted really owes his parents. And so I said to Frank,
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  Speaker 3: what's the best way for him to pay us back?
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  Speaker 3: And that is for him to develop a film career.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you say pay you back?
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  Speaker 3: I think any child that is given a great opportunity
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  Speaker 3: in life owes his parents something. I'm simply saying that
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  Speaker 3: when the child is adopted, they are a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more beholden. I'm saying that I wanted Jason to have
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  Speaker 3: a film career. Now he's in a movie. Now at
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  Speaker 3: the height of his success, this man comes bumbling into
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  Speaker 3: this party... And starts, well, I think that the movie
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  Speaker 3: this and that. I said, now you listen to me,
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  Speaker 3: and you listen real good, because I'm going to say
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  Speaker 3: this once, and I don't stutter. You are going to
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  Speaker 3: show respect to my home and to me. If you
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  Speaker 3: say one thing about this film, I will have security,
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  Speaker 3: and I do have security at my home for these things.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have them throw you out into the street, and
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  Speaker 3: your car keys will come... And your car keys will
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  Speaker 3: come flying after.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I'm going to give our number out. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to take a break. Our number is 1-800-449-8686. You
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  Speaker 1: are talking about a film that anybody would have an
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  Speaker 1: opinion about, Margaret.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that film, but not in my home. And
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  Speaker 3: not because you're jealous that your child's a loser.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you don't know any of that. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 1: a movie called The Night Manhattan Died. It's a comedy
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  Speaker 1: based on the events of 9-11. Now, you've also said
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  Speaker 1: that your son, Jason Jay, who is an adopted boy,
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  Speaker 1: owes you. And I don't know anything about adopted children. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I have stepchildren.
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  Speaker 3: All right, you have stepchildren. Now, you... Well, in your case,
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  Speaker 3: your stepchildren were well taken care of by Maria.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they were very well taken care of.
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about a child that I adopted. In other words,
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  Speaker 3: the mother was some kind of a crack... Forgive me,
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  Speaker 3: some kind of a crack whore. The father was... I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what. The father was a black or something.
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  Speaker 3: And together they.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean he was a black?
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  Speaker 3: I mean that... I took this child, Frank and I
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  Speaker 3: pulled this child literally off of a garbage heap. Now, Phil,
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  Speaker 3: this is.
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  Speaker 1: That, to me, is an unfortunate way of describing orphaned children.
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  Speaker 3: No, but not all of them are. Look, every child
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  Speaker 3: that's an orphan and is adopted needs to recognize that
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  Speaker 3: they owe a little bit something more. Every child owes
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  Speaker 3: his parents that gives him a good life. But an
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  Speaker 3: adopted child, I think when the bill comes for that,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit, you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: you're going to get stuck to the bigger tap. And
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  Speaker 3: all I ask of Jason Jay is that he make
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  Speaker 3: something out of his life. And he's been cast in
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  Speaker 3: this film. And then Sutherland comes bumbling and blundering into
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  Speaker 3: our party. Well, I don't think this movie was this
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  Speaker 3: and that.
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  Speaker 1: But it was a controversial film, and you should have
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  Speaker 1: expected that.
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  Speaker 3: I said to him, now you listen and you listen good.
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  Speaker 3: And I looked him in the eye. I'm not afraid
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  Speaker 3: of any man. I said, you listen to me. And
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  Speaker 3: he's a big man. And I resisted the temptation to
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  Speaker 3: say fatso.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that would have been childish.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I resisted. I said, you listen to me and
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  Speaker 3: you listen real good. My son is going to be
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  Speaker 3: a big star. And if you think you're going to
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  Speaker 3: walk into a home at a party that I'm hosting
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  Speaker 3: and badmouth a movie that my son's in while you
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  Speaker 3: sit there and eat my food and drink my drinks...
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you that I will have security throw you,
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  Speaker 3: and you'll be airborne, off of my property.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Hold on for a minute, Margaret. 1-800-449-8686. 1-800-449-8686.
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  Speaker 1: I knew that her son was adopted. Margaret Gray joins us.
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  Speaker 1: Her son is in a film called The Night Manhattan Died.
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  Speaker 1: Very controversial movie. It's a comedy based on 9-11 takes
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  Speaker 1: place in New York. Her son is an adopted child,
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  Speaker 1: and she feels that as an adopted child, that all
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  Speaker 1: adopted children, I guess she's saying, owe their parents a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more than the average child does, and she
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  Speaker 1: feels that him getting a film career is the start
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  Speaker 1: of paying her and her husband back. When she was
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  Speaker 1: approached by someone at the party who didn't like the movie,
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  Speaker 1: she literally threatened to have the man thrown out of
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  Speaker 1: her house. This is the Phil Hendry Show. You're mentioning,
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  Speaker 1: I don't particularly think that there's anything funny about 9-11.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Phil, that is your opinion, but I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that if you were in my home, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that you would have the right to walk up to
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  Speaker 3: me and say, you know, I really don't like the
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  Speaker 3: movie your son's in. Oh, by the way, can I
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  Speaker 3: have more of your chicken? I think, and this is
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  Speaker 3: my opinion, look, Jason Jay was adopted. When we found him,
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  Speaker 3: it's almost as if you're going through And I, Phil,
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you use this garbage analogy with children that
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  Speaker 1: are adopted?
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  Speaker 3: Phil, I'm not saying the children themselves are garbage. I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying they're thrown away as if they are. And when
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  Speaker 3: we come along and adopt these children, it's as if
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  Speaker 3: you're picking them out of the bottom of a can,
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  Speaker 3: finding them at the bottom literally of a garbage can. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want anything from this boy other than for
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  Speaker 3: him to be successful in his film career. We have,
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  Speaker 3: and this is something that Bill really didn't like, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: we do take a little bit more of his earnings
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  Speaker 3: than the average parent.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there are laws that allow for the parents to
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  Speaker 1: take enough money as managers.
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  Speaker 3: But he's adopted. So his upkeep is a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: How is the upkeep of an adopted child more than
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  Speaker 1: the upkeep of a naturally born child? I really want
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  Speaker 1: to know that.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you how.
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  Speaker 1: I really want to know how it's more expensive.
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  Speaker 3: Because it is... The freight tire. When you're raising an
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  Speaker 3: adopted child, you're making a little bit more of an
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  Speaker 3: effort to love it. Oh, boy. You know something? When
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  Speaker 3: you adopt a child, you give me a big call.
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  Speaker 3: You give me the big shout-out, and you tell me
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  Speaker 3: I'm wrong. And we're way off the base.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're talking like you don't even love this kid.
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  Speaker 3: I love him very much.
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  Speaker 4: And I.
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  Speaker 3: For the first time in my life, I have what
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  Speaker 3: I want. A kid.
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  Speaker 1: That's an actor or just a son?
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  Speaker 3: A son, yes, who also acts, yes. I have a
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  Speaker 3: son that I love very much, and yes, he's in
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  Speaker 3: a motion picture.
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  Speaker 1: And that's good?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's an extra added blessing, yes.
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  Speaker 5: 1-800-449-8686.
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  Speaker 1: Shem, go ahead, you're on the Phil Henry Show. Shem,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for your show.
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  Speaker 4: This woman is not interested in this kid. She's interested
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  Speaker 4: in the dollar signs that she sees on this kid's forehead.
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  Speaker 3: Now, we live in an open society.
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  Speaker 4: And the open society calls.
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  Speaker 3: I live in America. Where does he live?
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  Speaker 4: He's calling from America, too. I live in America. I
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  Speaker 4: live in South Africa.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you don't sound like any American I know about.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. You have an accent, too. Now, we
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  Speaker 4: live in an open society, and an open society calls
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  Speaker 4: for criticism of works of art. If anybody does a
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  Speaker 4: work of art and is not willing... for that wick
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  Speaker 4: to be criticized, then we have a problem. This woman
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  Speaker 4: sees this child not as a son, but as a
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  Speaker 4: dollar signer. And that's dead worrying to me.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Margaret, your response.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, Shem, if you walked into my home
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  Speaker 3: and you're standing there with a cracker with my cheese
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  Speaker 3: on it, and you say to me, you know, that
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  Speaker 3: movie your son's in I think is a real turd, well,
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  Speaker 3: guess what? You can leave.
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  Speaker 1: But he didn't say that. He was... He just.
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  Speaker 3: About said the same thing. Now, as far as Jason J.
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  Speaker 3: Delmonico being adopted.
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  Speaker 4: I'm an adopted child, too.
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  Speaker 6: So?
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  Speaker 3: All right. Have you paid your parents back?
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  Speaker 4: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Then you understand. When they picked you out
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  Speaker 3: of a garbage heap.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't in a garbage heap.
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  Speaker 3: Well, my God, where were you? If you have to
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  Speaker 3: be adopted, it means.
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  Speaker 4: You are creating perceptions here.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm simply saying if you have to be adopted...
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't it follow that someone threw you into a dumpster?
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  Speaker 1: No, it does not follow. It does not.
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  Speaker 4: This boy did not ask to be born. He was
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  Speaker 4: born to a parent who was smart enough to find
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  Speaker 4: out that I cannot take care of this kid. Let
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  Speaker 4: me give it to somebody who can. Unfortunately, the kid
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  Speaker 4: has fallen into your hands, and all you see in
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  Speaker 4: this kid is dollar signs.
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  Speaker 3: No, I see a boy that I want very much
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  Speaker 3: to grow up and have a wonderful life. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: pay me back a little bit. Do you understand that
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  Speaker 3: we went out and we looked for this child? He's
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  Speaker 3: living with some crack whore, okay?
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to whisper because everybody can hear.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't really like the term. On top of that,
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  Speaker 3: she is living with a man, and I won't... You
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  Speaker 3: don't say anything. But he's not of her race.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: All right. And I said to Frank, let's adopt him.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: And Frank didn't want to do it. I said, look,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: if you let me adopt this boy, I will make
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: it worth your while.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Thank heavens you adopted him. You gave him a home.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: You gave him a life. You gave him hope. But
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: the way you are portraying the boy right now, you know, Well,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: let me ask you something. Leave people like me listening
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: to you. You sound like, you know.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: You know what? I want to know. When you were
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: a child, did you wear clothes or just a piece
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: of leather around your waist? Because a lot of the.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: What is that supposed to mean?
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't... When you say he was adopted, you know,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Shem here wants us to believe that Johnny Weisbauer came.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Swimming down the line. I agree with you at this
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: point that You sound more like you don't really love
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: this kid.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I love him very, very much to the point where
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I sacrifice my life. Can I ask you something? Did
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: you go to school on an elephant?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and I'm sorry for that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Well, he didn't answer that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: He's not going to answer that question.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to have some fun.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Why can't you just adopt a child?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: You know what? It's worth it. It doesn't make any sense.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: You're out of your element. You're out of your league.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: You're way out of... You're in a different ballgame. The
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: only way I could look at... Have you ever walked
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: by a garbage can and found a ham sandwich that
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: was perfectly good? And you lift it up and you go,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: you know what? This is a perfectly good sandwich. Why
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: not take a bite?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: No, I have not.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: You know the lies. I really hate the lies.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Are you telling me that your baby,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: this Jason Jay, was a ham sandwich in a garbage can?
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Phil, you are characterizing my words.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: No, you just said, have I ever walked by a
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: garbage can, saw a ham sandwich.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Phil, many times Frank has eaten something and then thrown
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: it away, didn't like the taste of it. I said,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: this is a perfectly good light ham sandwich.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: All right, let me take a phone call here. Elizabeth,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you're on The Phil Henry Show. Go ahead.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my name is Elizabeth.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Hi.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Actually, I'm calling to make a comment about her and
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: the adoption.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: I really don't think it's right that she's going around,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: as much as she says she loves her son, you know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: calling him a piece of trash. Because, honestly, there are
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: some times that people have to put their kids up
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: for adoption, and they're.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Not telling them away. I understand that.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, like, honestly, because I just had to do
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: this recently this past week because I wanted to give
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: my child a better life and a better home.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I'm very sorry to hear that, Elizabeth.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: It's all right. Elizabeth, this is Margaret. Were you smoking rock?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: No, no, not at all.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: I've never done drugs or anything in my life. I'm
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: just 22 years old and I'm single, and I didn't
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: want to give my daughter, you know, living pretty much
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: as it is. I'm trying to make it and going
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: back to school and everything, and I wanted her to
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: have a happy family and a mother and a father
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: who can take care of her. And it's just really
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: wrong to pretty much go around saying that, like, all
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: adopted children are pretty much thrown away like a piece
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: of trash because they're not. Because I could have taken
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: care of her perfectly fine, and I love her so
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: much with all my heart.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that you did the right thing. You
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: probably live in some kind of a mobile home community.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: No, not at all. Well, I mean, you're generalizing.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: No, I mean.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: I'm just pretty much, I'm 22 years old. It was
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: an unplanned pregnancy. And the father, you know, we're good
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: friends still, but we're not together. And I just wanted
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: to make sure that she had a good life.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Now, when you say an unplanned pregnancy, meaning, and I really,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I don't, please forgive me when you say unplanned. Do
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: you know how babies are made? Yes. What kind of
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: a question? Well, then why would you say that's unplanned?
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Okay, pretty much because, like, the condom broke and it didn't,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: you know, I accidentally got pregnant. That's what happened. So
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: it wasn't planned for me to get pregnant.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: So in other words, what you're saying to me is
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: that you and this boyfriend used a condom that was
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: substandard and you saw the wisdom in giving a child up,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: to adoption, because why would she want to be raised
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: by a mother who buys bad condoms? I don't understand how.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: But the lady is saying.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: It's not that I'm saying, it's that pretty much I'm
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: making the comment that I really feel that it's bad
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: that you're going around calling that adopted children are pretty
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: much thrown away like a piece of trash, because they're not.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Because a lot of times, they're... They're very wonderful gifts
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: from God, and pretty much that a lot of times
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: the women who make these decisions aren't always on drugs
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: or having problems or things like that. They sometimes just
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: want to give a better life for their child.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you something? Was she a beautiful child?
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: She was.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: She was gorgeous.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Very lovely. What color was her hair?
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: It was brown. Brown hair and blue eyes.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: And you miss her, don't you?
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: I do, a lot.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: And I love her a lot, too.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Now, the reason why, are you what they would call
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: mountain trash?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Would you please have some sensitivity to what this.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: No.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to figure out.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Why would you ask her about the beauty of that
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: baby and then launch into a mountain trash line?
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: No.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I'm simply saying.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: I live in a house in Pennsylvania and everything like that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: By hillbilly trash, right?
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: No, not at all.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: I have, you know, two good parents. I have a brother.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Like, it's a normal life.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Well, why didn't you keep the child then? You didn't
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: want the child screaming? No, not at all.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: I love the fact. Please, when I had her and
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: everything for the three days, I was up three days
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: in the hospital with her, and I refused to have
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: the nurses take her away. It had nothing to do
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: with that.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Were you afraid you were going to beat it?
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: No, not at all. Oh, my gosh, I love children
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: to death.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Why would you say something like that?
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: The reason why.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Is because there's sometimes that, you know.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, not you, Elizabeth. I meant to ask,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: why would you ask this lady if she.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: A lot of young mothers rightfully give up their children
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: because they know, one more minute with this kid and
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I'm going to throw him into a stream.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: No, it's not about... Please, I've been at church, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: I've been taking care of children since I was.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Like, 13.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: I love children. It's just that I wanted her to
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: have a loving family in the sense that she would
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: have a mother and father, a great house, a stable,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: and they would have, like, a wonderful home.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: That is beautiful.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: I'm still going to college, and I'm still, like, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: not prepared with my life. So I wanted to give
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: her the best that she possibly could.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth, this is Phil. I think you've done a very
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: courageous thing.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And a wonderfully compassionate thing. uh.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: so i wanted to pay to the young lady i
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: think you've done but what if i could pick it
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: up at a time to complete paying have you ever
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: seen a perfectly good sandwich In a garbage pit.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I understand your viewpoint.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. When you gave your child up
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: for adoption.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Well, you said the garbage pit thing is not applicable, though.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: It's just, that's the thing. It's just like, yeah, I mean,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: she would have been fine in me raising her and
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: perfectly healthy and had everything that she wanted. I just
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: wanted to give her a better life.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: So you're not saying you were lazy? No, it's not
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: at all. Not about being lazy.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: You know, I have to put myself through college, and
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: I've been working 80 hours a week, and I do
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: everything like that, you know.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: This young woman is feeling emotional about this, Margaret. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: think a lot of your questions are a bit intemperate.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I'm just asking her, was she giving the child up
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: for adoption because she just felt she didn't want to
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: get out of bed in the morning and make the
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: kid a lousy bowl of cereal?
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I miss her every day. I mean, there's some times
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: that I really want her back. The reason why I
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: was doing it is because I want to give her
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: a better life. It's not because I'm lazy and I
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: couldn't take care of her.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Do you go to bars?
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: No, I don't really. I barely drink, and I've never
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: done drugs.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Do you run around with men?
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: No, I don't, actually. He was the only guy I've
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: ever been with.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: In a racial dating?
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Uh, I once, but what does that have to do
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: with it? There's nothing wrong with a racial dating.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Are you an exotic dancer? Do you work in a... No,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: not at all.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: I go to church every Sunday and stuff like that.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Was the father a preacher of some kind? No, he wasn't.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Was he your father?
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Will you stop?
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: No!
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: That is horrible.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I don't ask you to say black.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: All right, that's it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: No.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Don't answer the question. Elizabeth.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Was it Puerto Rican?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Get her out of here.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: She's a psycho. Elizabeth, you're very kind to call our show.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: You're a very courageous, compassionate young lady. Thank you very much.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And you told me before we went on the air
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you're going to be able to see your baby, not
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: when you want to, but they'll make some.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Once a year we get planned visits, and I get pictures,
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: and I get some letters every year to her.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you, was he a Samoan?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Will you get.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: She's, like, on this whole kick about adopted kids being picked.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Something about, haven't you seen a perfectly good ham sandwich
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: in a garbage pit?
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: That was the main reason why I was calling, because
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: I just felt really horrible that she's calling, you know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: adopted children like trash, because they're not all like that.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, there are some times where they do come
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: from a bad situation.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: From a bad deal, yeah, right.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: But, I mean, you still shouldn't even describe them that way.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's her own son. That's the only reason
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: I just... I just felt really, you know, compelled.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Have you ever seen a used tampon?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: All right, that's it. I'm done. Elizabeth, thank you very
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: much for your call.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: And I know it was very emotional for you. I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: really appreciate you calling us.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: It's all right.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: You have a good night, Ben.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: All right, see you later.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Bye-bye. Oh, I suppose you're going to castigate me now.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, I am.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: No, I'm trying to say that little hillbilly trash, she
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: did the right thing.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, the hillbilly trash and the mountain trash. Was the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: father black? Do you run around in bars? Are you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: an exotic dancer? I assume you live in a mobile home.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Do you blast up rock?
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Well, get you all indignant.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. And then finally, to top the whole
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: thing off, have you ever seen a used tampon in
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: a trash can?
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Well, have you?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: None of your business. 1-800-449-8686, the world famous Phil Henry Show.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: And now a flashback featuring Vernon Dozier.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: If you went into a house to buy it and
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: were treated the way that you're treating.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: People, what would you do?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I would shake the man's hand and thank him for
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: dealing with me straightforward.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Well, I've got to tell you this. What kind of.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: A question was that? How did you think I was
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: going to answer that question?
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Well, I just wondered where you were coming from. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: would like to tell you this. My husband and I
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: have bought 15 homes. We had a great number of
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: rentals that we bought and sold. So you're not happy
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: with the homes you live in?
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Pardon?
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: You were not happy with the home you were living in?
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: We build homes, and after we build them in five years,
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: we sell them, and we build another home, and we
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: sell it, and we build another home.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: So you're not happy with the homes?
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: I didn't say I wasn't happy with them.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Why are you selling them?
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: Because we like building homes and selling them. It's the
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: way we create a pretty good estate for ourselves. And
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: what I wanted to say to you is that.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. Somebody walks in and says, hey, Carolina,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: is that toilet, does that flush? You want to kick
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: that guy around the street.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Mr.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: Dozier, I've gone to a number of different open houses.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: I go sometimes just to see what kind of a
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: person the realtor is showing the house. So when I
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: go to list the house, I know who I want
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: to list with.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Well, there you go. See, now you're the kind of
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: person that would make me angry because you're not coming
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: in to sell. You're not coming in to buy. You're
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: just going to.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: No, but do you hear what she's saying? She wants
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: to see how the realtor is treating the people.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Well, you would enjoy my method.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, I wouldn't.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: Oh, no, I wouldn't.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: You should see me in action.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: No, I don't need to see you in action. And
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: in fact, if you were in my home... If you
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: were in my home, you'd be kicked out faster than
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: you're kicking the people out of the homes that you're showing.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Phil, can I ask you and Caroline Solis, I just
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: want to say goodbye to this one lady here.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: Well, you don't need to say goodbye to me. You're
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: just afraid to talk with me.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, she's not saying goodbye to you, Caroline.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: He's talking to a customer he's got at the open house.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Caroline, you're in the real estate business?
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: I took real estate courses, and when I retired after
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: working at the University of California.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: You and your wife get out.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Are you telling somebody to get out?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I sure did. Get out. I don't want your business
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: in here, piece of crap. Some scumbag.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: I cannot believe this.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Can you believe this guy?
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: I can't believe this.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. I do. I'm very firm in my business, Caroline,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: and I know that women love a firm hand. I
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: think you would enjoy... what I can do for you
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: as a.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: Real estate agent. I wouldn't have you for a real
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: estate salesperson. If you were the last person on earth,
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: I'd put out a sign on my own.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I do? I save you the
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: time of having to deal with a lot of lightweights,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: people that aren't serious.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I get the serious people.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Caroline, I wanted to ask you, this is Phil Hendry.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: It's interesting, you're building and selling homes. That's a terrific
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: way of.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: We have created a very nice estate.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Brown molding, huh? You know how many times people ask
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: me that?
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Can you hear this guy? Because I can hear him
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: in the background.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Crown molding, right? You and whatever that is you're with.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Is that your wife? Get out.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Can you believe he's talking to people like this?
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: Is he for real?
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Sir?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Is Caroline there?
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: Yes, I'm here.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Can I get your business card? Because I'd really love
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: to sit down and talk. I got some ideas.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you, I said I took real estate courses,
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: but I never sold real estate because I found out
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: it was more profitable for me to do what we
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: were doing.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. I think what you're doing is great, but
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I would love to be able to agent for you
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: and to... Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Get your hands off the counter. I would love to
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: agent for you and whatever I can do.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Listen, you would.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: would never be an agent for me because I would
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: never have a person like you even show my home.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Caroline, this is Phil Henry again.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in the idea of building and then selling.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Do you bring in an architect?
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Hey, hey, get your hands off the counter, you piece
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: of s * * *. Get your hands off the counter.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you something, I'll smack that out of
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: your hand.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, hold on for a minute. Mr. Dozier?
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Who are you yelling at?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: What business is it of yours I'm trying to do?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I'm listening to you yelling that you're going to smack somebody.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Some kid's flushing the toilet over here. I got a
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: business to run. What's the matter with you?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Caroline, tell me a little bit about that. Do
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you bring in an architect, and then you plan, et cetera.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Et cetera?
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: We usually sketch out a plan, pretty much what we
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: think is.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Flush the toilet again, didn't you?
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I told you not to flush the toilet again.