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Episode 20: 1970's Music: From Revolution to Disco · Bearded And Crunchy

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SPEAKER_02: The seventies.
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SPEAKER_02: A decade when the music got louder.
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SPEAKER_02: Hair got longer.
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SPEAKER_02: Hands got lighter.
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SPEAKER_02: This was a decade in game.
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SPEAKER_01: Progressive rock.
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SPEAKER_01: Heavy metal.
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SPEAKER_01: Songwriter.
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SPEAKER_01: Southern Rock.
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SPEAKER_01: The greatest moment in music history.
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SPEAKER_01: The birth of it.
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SPEAKER_02: Basically, if you could plug it in and turn it up or grow your hair around it.
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SPEAKER_02: The 70s had a genre for it.
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SPEAKER_01: The Beatles were gone.
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SPEAKER_01: It was in the rearview mirror.
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SPEAKER_01: And loud.
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SPEAKER_02: And occasionally, extremely sparkly.
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SPEAKER_02: We're talking Led Zeppelin, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John, the Queen, Aerosmith, Black Sabbath, Stevie Wonder, The Eagles, Jim Croce, and the Bee Gees.
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SPEAKER_01: A decade where one moment you could be listening to a 12-minute guitar solo, and the next you're dancing under a disco ball wearing a shirt that has absolutely no business being mad open.
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SPEAKER_02: The 70s weren't just a bridge between the 60s and 80s.
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SPEAKER_02: They were the musical equivalent of throwing everything into a blender, turning it to eleven, and somehow getting a platinum record.
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SPEAKER_01: So buckle up.
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SPEAKER_01: Roll out those sideburns.
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SPEAKER_01: Grab your vinyl.
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SPEAKER_01: And whatever you do, don't touch that thermostat because we're diving ahead first into the music of the seventies.
2:11
SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to Bearded and Crunchy episode twenty.
2:19
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
2:20
SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ.
2:34
SPEAKER_01: We're definitely excited for these series, and it's gonna get even more exciting as we delve into the ones we really know.
2:42
SPEAKER_01: But even though I was born in 80, you were born in 83, um, the 70s was still heavily influenced because of our parents and stuff.
2:53
SPEAKER_01: And not that the 60s weren't, but I think the 70s were that era to our parents, what the 90s were to us.
3:03
SPEAKER_02: I would think so.
3:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh because you got to figure our parents were really kind of end of high school, uh right out of high school in the 70s.
3:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think my dad graduated high school in 69 or 70.
3:15
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
3:16
SPEAKER_02: My dad graduated in 73, my mom graduated in 75.
3:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
3:20
SPEAKER_01: My um, yeah, because my I have a brother and a sister that was born in 69, then a brother that was born in 70.
3:29
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: And then um my other sister was born in 72, and my other brother was born in 73, I think.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: Jeez.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: Something like that.
3:38
SPEAKER_01: Something like that.
3:39
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, so guys, 70s, as you can see by um thankful to uh we'll we'll we'll bring them up later, but your dad blessed us with with some old school records.
3:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:52
SPEAKER_01: I've talked about before about a house that I've lived in, my comic book, some of my cards, and also some of my records got ruined.
3:59
SPEAKER_01: And same thing happened with your dad with the fire.
4:02
SPEAKER_01: So unfortunately didn't have a lot to show, but as we get up and we get into our our uh past with CDs and stuff, I'm sure we'll have more show and tell.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:14
SPEAKER_01: But I think so.
4:15
SPEAKER_01: So I've been I've been waiting.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: You said you had a good question, so yeah.
4:20
SPEAKER_01: Let's let's hear it.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: It's got a nice setup too.
4:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I I know it will, it always does.
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SPEAKER_02: Music leader.
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SPEAKER_02: Alright.
4:31
SPEAKER_02: So, obviously, you just alluded to that.
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SPEAKER_02: We were born in the 80s, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But if you could bend the laws of physics and somehow build a time machine, what artist from the 70s would you like to go back and see perform live in concert?
4:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh Pink Floyd, wish you were here.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: It's not even close.
4:53
SPEAKER_01: Not even close.
4:54
SPEAKER_01: No, um Shine on your crazy diamond.
4:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I I it I've talked about it before, but I I think I can go in a little in-depth because this is the decade.
5:04
SPEAKER_01: Um, that album just does something to me.
5:08
SPEAKER_01: Um it talks about loss and and losing people and just the ways of the world with Welcome to the Machine and Um Have a Cigar and stuff like that.
5:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, but Shine on Your Crazy Diamond to this day, um like we've talked about this.
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SPEAKER_01: Music tends to take us out of the real world and and get us away from things and it allows us an escape.
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SPEAKER_01: But shine on your crazy diamond, like when I listen to it, I literally forget the world.
5:41
SPEAKER_01: So it has this blanket of comfort to me.
5:47
SPEAKER_01: And people don't realize that it's a 13-minute song broke up into six parts.
5:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, and for you guys that don't know, it was actually made about Sid Barrett, um, an original founder of Pink Floyd, who got way too wasted and and and messed up on Acid and LSD.
6:05
SPEAKER_01: Um here's a story I I I'm glad I waited, but uh so when they were recording, so they made Shine on You Crazy Diamond about Sid, right?
6:15
SPEAKER_01: This was Rick Wright, Nick Mason, Roger Waters, and David Gilmore.
6:19
SPEAKER_01: Um it's literally about them.
6:22
SPEAKER_01: And when they were recording it, and they recorded that album at Abbey Road.
6:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh no shit.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and while while they were recording, this uh a bunch of people were coming in and out, and there was this guy who was bald, and he looked like he weighed about 250 pounds, and they're singing the song, and David Gilmore's doing one of his parts, and he looks up and he realized it was Sid.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, they they didn't recognize him really, yeah, and and he had been so far gone he couldn't recognize that the song was about him.
6:52
SPEAKER_01: Damn there's all kinds of stories.
6:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but but I I when you said that that's where I went, um it would most people would think Dark Side of the Moon because it changed um popular music and the fact that how long it stayed on the charts, like it had stayed uh on the charts for 741 weeks in a row, um, which I don't think can ever be done again.
7:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just don't.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying that Pink Floyd that album's better than any other album, but the fact that it it stayed that long says something about it.
7:23
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, for me, it would be Shine on You Crazy Diamond and The Wish You Were Your Alm.
7:27
SPEAKER_01: What about you?
7:28
SPEAKER_01: I I see the difference is you could probably pinpoint that for me, because you know my love, but man, your your your rock knowledge is much more vast than mine, so I can imagine.
7:37
SPEAKER_01: And it may not even be rock for all I know.
7:39
SPEAKER_02: Man, that you know, for me, that would be it would be really, really tough to kind of narrow it down to one.
7:46
SPEAKER_02: Um I love singer-songwriters, as I've alluded to, that's why this record is here.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: I would love to see Jim Croce before he tragically passed.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and I but I've seen the other two I want to mention in concert, anyways, but I would love to go back and see early iterations of the Eagles.
8:08
SPEAKER_02: Before they were fighting and breaking up and shit.
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SPEAKER_01: And I would love to go see Journey with Steve Perry.
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SPEAKER_01: I I think I've told that story about my mom and dad being pregnant with me and going to see Journey.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
8:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I never I've never even seen them with the with the like I've just never seen them live.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: Dude, they're they're good.
8:27
SPEAKER_01: Dude, they have uh an insane amount of like just bangers and hits, man.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: It would be it would be nuts.
8:34
SPEAKER_02: But it's one of the best concerts I've ever seen, and like I said before in the music episode, I I got to go with my wife on our first anniversary, and yeah, even with that, with Arnell singing, it it was still because he's so close tonally wise with with Perry, it's just he's really good live.
8:53
SPEAKER_01: I I I've definitely seen his videos on YouTube, yeah, and stuff like that.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: They did phenomenal.
8:58
SPEAKER_01: It's phenomenal.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh but the 70s, man, there's a lot to unpack here.
9:04
SPEAKER_01: I know, it's a lot.
9:06
SPEAKER_01: Um, which I I'll let you start it out.
9:08
SPEAKER_01: You have a a pretty good synopsis.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, outline of how we want to do it.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: Like I wrote stuff down, but it's a little chaotic in my notes.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: I actually typed out this thus the uh the ancient laptop.
9:22
SPEAKER_02: The throwback.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: Uh believe it or not, this was my mom's laptop before she passed.
9:27
SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
9:27
SPEAKER_02: I got it.
9:28
SPEAKER_01: I don't think you told me that.
9:29
SPEAKER_02: Or if you did, I forgot.
9:30
SPEAKER_02: This thing is like 15 and a half, 16 years old.
9:33
SPEAKER_02: 16 years old, and it runs better than my new one.
9:36
SPEAKER_02: Which is, I mean, I mean it's an Acer, so it's got good guts.
9:38
SPEAKER_02: Alright, anyways, I digress.
9:40
SPEAKER_02: So, we're talking 1970s music, and we discussed this a little bit off-air.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: Yes, we well, we have we're we're we definitely are gonna have to because it's got so much to cover over the next few decades.
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SPEAKER_02: So But we've kind of come to the conclusion that for us, because you know, we're 80s babies, a lot of it through our parents the 60s, especially late 60s, early 70s, it all kinds of it kind of all melds together a little bit.
10:08
SPEAKER_02: Which you know, the change from the 60s into the 70s was actually pretty big.
10:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh yeah.
10:14
SPEAKER_01: You know, it it it yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It it birthed many subgenres, and yes.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: I I think more people were experimenting and not sticking to the we we we kind of alluded that to the end of the 60s where people were kind of trying to branch off and and and just you know, thanks to artists like Jimi Hendrix and and you know uh Pink Floyd, the Beatles, even the Beatles, like you know, we we talked, I'm not a psychedelic but they they they they showed you that like there's music is endless.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:47
SPEAKER_02: Well that was the big change in the 70s, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: You went from you know polished pop records to rock and roll and psychedelic rock and a lot of Motown folk rock, you know.
10:58
SPEAKER_02: You had the beginnings of heavy metal with like Steppenwolf and you know things like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Sabbath and um oh who was the I had another one.
11:08
SPEAKER_01: Uh I can't remember now.
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SPEAKER_01: But yeah, there was Sabbath, there was another one, and I can't I don't remember where I put it.
11:16
SPEAKER_01: But there was a there was another one that I was thinking of and I I can't remember.
11:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh Led Zeppelin died.
11:20
SPEAKER_01: Led Zeppelin was they were considered they're not as now, but that them and Sabbath were kind of the ones that really, you know, birthed this really crazy and intense heavy music.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, and that that was the thing, you know, you you had all those early genres in the 60s and then the 70s kind of went, here's a hand grenade into all that, it goes into all these sub-genres.
11:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
11:46
SPEAKER_02: And that was the thing I I found out doing research and I was like, wow, like you like you said, you you got into Zeppelin Sabbath, believe it or not, Deep Purple's another one.
11:56
SPEAKER_01: Deep purple.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh Pink Floyd would be considered getting a little bit more heavy in that time.
12:01
SPEAKER_01: When you so their first two albums, um actually three, if you include animals, but once you got into the wall, it really started to get a little heavier and heavier, but still they still had that psychedelic, yep.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep, which you know you get into it's a subgenre.
12:24
SPEAKER_02: You basically have your rock, and then it splits off into hard rock, heavy metal, prog, southern rock, think eagle skinned almond brothers, right?
12:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all that, yep.
12:33
SPEAKER_01: And then Crosby Steals Nash.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they started in the 60s, but they still had they kind of went because that's I think that's when um uh Neil Young went solo and started really Heart of Stone, man.
12:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, he made Southern Man.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: That was uh one of the first disc records, like disc battles and music, like they weren't fucking around.
12:54
SPEAKER_01: Um also like you you were talking, you know, um you had people like RB had shifted, like you said, to the more motile.
13:04
SPEAKER_01: You had um a more um I don't even know how to claim it.
13:10
SPEAKER_01: It's your it's your Earth Window Fires, um, Parliament Funkadelic, your Bootsy Collins, and and all of those where it kind of, you know, they were starting to play with the instruments a little differently.
13:23
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, a lot of people talk about a lot of these guitarists, but Bootsy Collins was a good guitarist.
13:28
SPEAKER_01: Even Rick James could play the guitar.
13:31
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, we were getting into that, and my favorite of that was Earthwind and Fire.
13:36
SPEAKER_01: I I loved Earth Wind and Fire.
13:38
SPEAKER_01: And they technically formed in '69, but they didn't really start getting hits until like 71, 72.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, that was that's the thing, you know.
13:47
SPEAKER_02: It Motown didn't disappear in the 70s, it evolved into what you know, soul and RB actually ultimately became, and it's still evolving.
13:56
SPEAKER_01: Yes, you know, just like rock, just like country, just like well, it just you know you get then it, you know, and we'll talk about it later on, but you get into your industrial rock and your 90s RB, and then your um there was a set uh section of the late 90s and early 2000s of RB called Neo Soul, and you know, it just you you get into these, and that was like your Erica Badou's and those types, and your D'Angelos.
14:22
SPEAKER_02: And well, that's the thing, you can't you can't talk about soul and RB from the 70s without talking about Al Green and Marvin Yay and Teddy Pendergrass.
14:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh man, it's the list, dude.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: The list just goes like it's just crazy to think about that the Commodores, like people think about the Commodores, and yeah, it's the Rhinel Richie, man.
14:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, baby, easy like Sunday morning.
14:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, yeah, it it it was definitely and it the the 60s had more people experimenting, but it was like building the bomb, and then the 70s it exploded.
14:57
SPEAKER_01: Exploded, yeah.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
14:58
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of how it was because I mean, and and you know, we talked about you know heavy metal being born, and and it was the birth of disco, which I never listened to.
15:10
SPEAKER_01: The BGs.
15:11
SPEAKER_01: I mean, there was some like you know, I will survive by Glonia Gainer.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: That's a great song.
15:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, they there were some songs that that I dealt with, but staying alive, staying alive, yeah.
15:20
SPEAKER_01: Right.
15:21
SPEAKER_01: Um and and even you know Will um, you know, and then punk with the sex pistols and the Ramones and and and that stuff.
15:33
SPEAKER_01: And then of course, we couldn't have a conversation without talking about the birth of my favorite music, the birth of hip hop.
15:44
SPEAKER_01: Really?
15:44
SPEAKER_01: In the 70s, 1973, baby South Bronx, DJ Cool Heart.
15:49
SPEAKER_01: So, how it started history lesson, baby.
15:52
SPEAKER_01: History lesson.
15:52
SPEAKER_01: This was what I was excited for the 70s.
15:56
SPEAKER_01: There's there's a lot of questions because believe it or not, it was black culture, but in the in New York in those times, there was also a a big influx of um like Cuban and Puerto Rican.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: So there was actually a lot of that influence as well into the in into the the birth of hip-hop.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: But how it started was is block parties.
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SPEAKER_01: These guys would buy these turntables and stuff like that, and they would have these block parties, and then it eventually evolved where somebody would come up, and how it started was a DJ would be performing, and he would bring somebody up that was an MC master of ceremonies.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, and what they would do is is they would just kind of do a little rhyme to the beat talking about how good the DJ was.
16:46
SPEAKER_01: Um but that's that's where and it started in 73, and it started in the South Bronx.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, and and I'm gonna I'm gonna throw some artists out there.
16:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, obviously, anybody that knows hip-hop knows that Cool Herc was the the the godfather.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: Yes, but you had artists like the Sugar Hill gang, you know, a hip, hop, a hip to the hip, to the hop, you don't stop, a rocket to the bang, but you had that.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: You had Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, which the message, and and if you're a hip-hop head, you know that.
17:18
SPEAKER_01: But I'm gonna go into two that you might not know.
17:21
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
17:21
SPEAKER_01: Um there was one called the Funky Four Plus One.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they they were early big hitters uh in the late 90s.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: There was African Bombata, who he actually came up with the four, which they added eventually the five elements of hip-hop.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: There's four elements to hip-hop: graffiti, b-boys, which is breakdancing, DJing, and MCing rapping.
17:45
SPEAKER_01: That's the elements of hip-hop.
17:46
SPEAKER_01: And then eventually they call it later the knowledge of knowing where hip-hop comes from.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: So there's five pillars of hip-hop.
17:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, and my favorite, and this is gonna be you're gonna learn something new about me.
17:57
SPEAKER_01: My favorite old school rapper, if we're going before our time, your LL Cool Jays in your 90s, is a is a guy by the name of Greymaster Kaz.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: He was in a group called the Cold Crush Brothers.
18:08
SPEAKER_01: There's a line, and all my hip hop heads that are listening to this, Jay-Z has a line on the blueprint album where he says, I'm overcharging these labels for what they did to the Cold Crush.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: Because these guys didn't get paid a lot, but their records were getting played and stuff.
18:25
SPEAKER_01: Sure, sure.
18:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then Kulmo D and the treacherous three.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: These were kind of the the there was a lot of other ones, but these were the ones that people knew the most.
18:33
SPEAKER_01: But I I I had to bring up obviously the birth of hip-hop because you know that's that's your me.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and 1973 was the birth, and and people don't realize it.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: No.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh Rapper's Delight, the hip to the hop.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: That came out in 1979, bro.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: That wasn't in 80s.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: Wow, Grandmaster Flash was out, but the message that everybody wants came out uh in 1980.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: And the message is the one where it goes, um uh I'm getting or um oh god, how's the words escaping me?
19:04
SPEAKER_01: But um, you know, close to the edge.
19:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm trying not to lose my hair.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's the message.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: That's the one that P.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: Diddy redid.
19:17
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
19:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I I I had to throw that in there because that's I've heard like hip hop, I've heard the original, yeah.
19:23
SPEAKER_01: Hip hop in the 2000s became the biggest selling genre at the time, like thanks to the 90s and stuff.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: So I thought it was it was definitely poignant for me to bring it up.
19:34
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, and guys, I didn't even have to do research for that one.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you just knew it.
19:38
SPEAKER_01: I just I've done my research.
19:40
SPEAKER_01: I've you know, even though I wasn't alive in like the early 80s, I mean I was alive, but I didn't listen to hip-hop.
19:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, just like you, I like to go back and see where where it started, where these artists were, you know, because now we're into your Jay-Z and your MMs with it, but back then it was always well, here you go.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you a little story.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
19:58
SPEAKER_01: Like it evolved into I I definitely wanted to to throw that out there, but um we definitely need to delve into your passion too, though, because I mean both of our favorite genres ironically were birthed in the 70s.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: I I did see some research, and maybe you can talk on this.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: I did see some where they tried to say that like Black Sabbath started in like 69 and then Zeppelin.
20:22
SPEAKER_01: So it was kind of around, but they didn't really start getting heavier to like 71, 72, 73, but you could probably have a little more details on that.
20:34
SPEAKER_02: What's really funny is I didn't really go into hard rock uh on this.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: I didn't I didn't I didn't research it.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: That makes sense though, because I learned something new about you when you said like your thing is songwriters, singers songwriters, baby.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: So so I that that actually that would make that make sense.
20:49
SPEAKER_02: No, Sabbath was uh Sabbath did start late late 60s, but they you know everybody's paying their dues in the beginning.
20:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:58
SPEAKER_02: And they were so I mean they were like taboo because it was like, ooh.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, it was dark, dark.
21:05
SPEAKER_02: This is heavy.
21:06
SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
21:06
SPEAKER_02: It was taboo.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: And then, you know, it really they kind of exploded in the 70s, and you know, you get oh, where's it?
21:13
SPEAKER_02: Did I bring it up here?
21:14
SPEAKER_02: Um you get master of reality and stuff like that.
21:17
SPEAKER_02: You get paranoid with Iron Man.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: I am Iron Man.
21:23
SPEAKER_02: We could we could go through all those because they're all subgenres of rock.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: So obviously, you guys see we have the Black Sabbath.
21:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, we'll go this one's funny because I brought up in case we got to it, one of my favorite songs from the 70s is Joker.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: The Joker.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: I love that song.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: Some people call me a space captain.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: What's funny is you guys probably didn't think the Steve Miller band he did stuff like that, but that's a good one.
21:47
SPEAKER_01: Um then, and and again, so we don't forget, shout out to your dad for letting us use these to show you guys.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: Thanks, old man.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, and obviously, one of one of the greatest collection of musical.
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SPEAKER_01: musical artists of all time.
22:01
SPEAKER_01: I'll let you do that because I know that's one of your faves, but the Eagles guys, they have so many good songs and just that's that's an I you know when we talk covers we could have talked about this because that's yeah that's that's an iconic cover right there.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah big time.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: We'll uh I'll I'll I'll let you I just noticed that I'll let you show that but you know what I noticed you see what that street sign says K West you know where my mind went Kanye yeah um but I think we could go into this because this was where you talked about this a little bit a little glam the glam rock because you know I went to the 80s with that because the hairbands and stuff but really once you said that I was like well actually he he he's kind of the the the the godfather of it like oh yeah you know with um uh spaceman and oh excuse me gosh didn't mean to do that um and and that whole Ziggy stardust yeah um that same album was in my house when I seen that I kind of got a flashback of you know we've ever seen that but it and one of my favorite things that he ever did honestly uh uh you know as just David Bowie though I I loved under pressure with Queen it's such a great song such a collab that we didn't know we needed yeah it was good I mean and that's that that was it 80s or is that late 70s I don't remember well I think we're thinking 80s because of ice in late 90s because he reused it for ice ice baby yeah it's um and and that that specific loop in that has been used so much oh yeah hip hop a lot of hip hop producers and beat makers have have reused that many many times but I figured we could really because he he was a definitely a um uh he he definitely tried to change the way people looked at music the way you know he was dressing androgynous right and just you know and I mean we're talking 70s like in the 90s that shit was normal not really not in the 90s even it was a little more I mean it was more acceptable but you still had side eyes.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Oh and that was that was Freddie Mercury and Queen in the 70s he was you know and and again you know I'm sure you can attest to this I was raised F-word and I don't mean fuck.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: Yes you know in a lot of that where I never understood it but whatever they were raised different.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: But you know there's there there's there's nothing wrong with showing and being who you feel that you really are.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: And there's also nothing wrong with somebody being uncomfortable with it.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: Right.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: Just keep your mouth shut and don't be near it.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah don't I think that's the thing.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
24:47
SPEAKER_01: Like I've never cared if anybody was bro I told you my brother was it was one of the main reasons why he unalived himself.
24:54
SPEAKER_02: So and you didn't but you still loved him never changed I don't give a shit like I mean and people go oh as long as it don't hit on me.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: Even if he hits on me I just like look bro I don't go that way I've had it yeah I've had it happen before I don't you know I've had your life I've had it happen before and I've been you know already married and I just do one of these and it's like well and not only that they respect it.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: I had an argument with somebody I worked with when I worked in restaurants or not restaurants but at uh when we were at highcom they were like oh you know nobody's born gay and I'm like oh okay I'm like well did you choose to be straight right no you were born that way but anyways that's a whole nother story but um the just I mean the amount of places we could go like we'll even dive into Croce like I was telling you and your dad before we got here like I think a song that I don't I in my opinion I I think he has a song that no matter who listens to it will feel it and that's time in a bottle.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: It's such uh guys if you've never listened to it it it just it it just talks about how how short life is and how we we look past so much and we don't stay in the moment and and and it's I mean he uh talking about singer songwriters I think he should be considered one of the best if he you know he's one of my favorites of all he he just had a way with words that just yeah uh I I don't think he gets talked enough he is in the rock and roll hall of fame though I believe right I think so should be I don't know if he had enough of a career because it was cut short from a plane crash that's the problem who gives a shit biggie only put out two albums that he's considered one of the greatest true see that that's where I'm gonna go into because we that that is my favorite genre subgenre or whatever you whatever you want to call it from the I don't I don't think that's what you can call singer and song that's that's just a a a type of music that you enjoy not necessarily a genre I don't think I think it was more birthed from the 60s with folk music but where it started to differ from the 60s where they talked Vietnam civil rights you know there was a lot of unrights protest yeah counterculture counterculture uh women women's rights and when you get to the 70s with singer songwriters you get music that is more focused on relationships divorce heartbreak uh getting older family yeah you know every just everyday life well and and and on dark side of the moon uh one of the songs time yeah you know it talks about that you know the song goes you know digging away the moments that make up a dull day like it talks about the thing of where like when you're in your twenties and shit like that like you're bored and shit but then you know as you get older you blink and the fucking days gone sitting um yeah and and and I agree with you man I you know I've started to think and and this is what's great about this podcast is we learn from each other so much and we start to realize parts of us we didn't yeah um as a hip hop head I've always focused on lyrics yeah so I guess in in in theory you would love singer songwriters no I do what I'm saying is is I think I just never thought of it like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah um because if you think about it what have I told you my favorite heavy group is five finger deathbumps a lot of lyrics their writing yeah it should be considered a singer songwriter because how much he puts into those words and so I've learned a little bit about myself since going over this that isn't it fun I well it it's I'm the same like I want to hear what you got to say like move me right yes the music can move me too fuck I listened to Pink Floyd and Tool who are 70% instrumental but I want to hear what you got to say tell me something you know like with time and a bottle it's such a dude I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it's just that's just one of those songs that has been played so much I mean you can literally look I can look on the back of this record and you know the first one to kick it off is Operator.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah dude Operator's a great song well and and that's the thing like I had to find him later like my mom and dad didn't really listen to him so I had to find him later but that's the thing like all of his songs have that kind of meaning to it and it's how much have you delved into Croaty?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh I think I got like I got a handful of songs on my I mean I've definitely listened to him so I've I mean I'm I'm I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like I go to him a lot but it's one of those where like if I'm hitting shuffle and he pops up I'm going oh shit yeah I got that on me.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
29:35
SPEAKER_01: And I listen to it but Big Bad Leroy Brown.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah that's a good one.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: Don't mess around with GM Alabama Rain's a good one um New York's not my home is phenomenal.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: This is one Dreaming Dreaming again pops out at me.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: One Less Set of Footsteps is an amazing fucking song and I will and the next one after that I'll have to I like the title of that but I don't know if I've I'll have to listen to that because off the top of my head that one doesn't yeah that doesn't that that one he's he's talking about his woman and it's hard for him to tell her that he loves her so he's like I gotta say it in a song it's just some of the stuff that went into this stuff is like it's it's mind blowing at for especially for that time because but that's where you're getting at where you're like okay we're talking about a relationship we're talking about love you know i everyday life things like that it's like I mean granted he wasn't the only one doing this stuff.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: Right right you know some of the heavy hitters you know James Terror James Taylor Fire and Rain baby uh I mean shit again Earth Wind and Fire Yeah um you had uh Marvin Gay I mean he that's more soul it is more soul but still a songwriter though you know I'll tell you a couple that you wouldn't think about that were considered singer songwriters and I love these guys Billy Joel that's a good one yeah singer songwriter from the 70s Elton John yeah Elton John I have Tiny Dancer on here uh as as a as a song that I thoroughly enjoy but he Rocket Man I mean yeah yeah I mean we definitely you know thinking back I mean and then you have like the pretenders um the I guess that might have been a little more folk soul funk or folk soul yeah um I'm trying to think Neil Young yeah definitely Neil Young credence uh yeah but no that's more southern rock yeah but they still had that element you know because they did you know but they were they started in the 60s more yeah that's true so I John Denver's another one believe it or not John Denver I love dude I love me some John Denver you can call me old I don't give a fuck I'm trying take me home country road it's like every time you mention a name I go oh yeah them too off the top of my head I but you know some of those some of the names I've mentioned just now I mean they've been some of the heaviest hitters in music since the seventies a lot of them are still doing music to this day obviously not j you know John Denver or you know poor Jim Crouchy but I I imagine I can imagine where their careers would have went we we can that that's a good segue into the to the 27 club yeah um we we lost a lot of legends um obviously everybody knows you know about Hendricks Joplin and Morrison but Croce you had the Allman brothers tragedy you had the um Leonard Skinner plane crash um a lot of man the 70s were just a weird decade man a lot of listen to the names that you just named off man legends big fucking names legends and and it's crazy how many of them died at 27.
33:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah and from plane crashes and from plane crashes and and like you know the the Allman brothers tragedy where the one died of a car or a motorcycle accident and a year later almost to the day uh one of the other members uh uh died um it's you know uh again but I guess one of the downfalls of the 60s and 70s was the introduction of LSD and acid and right and and a lot of those guys I mean hell even the mamas and the papas mama cast yeah ham sandwich yep ham sandwich I was gonna mention that last week on the 60s because that was more that was more of a 60s thing yeah but I I I actually was a fan of of the mamas and the papas and dude California Dreaming's an amazing too well and John Phillips we talked about yep Wilson Phillips Wilson Phillips uh which I actually enjoyed them next week yep 80s are the 80s yeah yes yes we're in the 70s yeah yeah they were it was late 80s and they had a couple going into the 90s but um that means that next week on the 80s I can talk heart I love me some heart oh barracuda yeah I love heart um when I when I hear that song though I think we're going a little off topic but fuck it that's a you ever seen identity thief with uh Jason Bateman and Melissa McCarthy?
34:25
SPEAKER_01: Yes remember when they're in their car and she's singing it while they're playing and he's trying to I always think of that that guys if you've never seen that movie it is so funny.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: But anyways um we could actually we could talk about heart because Barracuda was from the 70s from the 70s and they had a they had a string of hits in the 70s and then they evolved into the 80s with that sound and that's another thing where like a lot of big songs and a lot of were sung by women yeah and predominantly black women in the 60s but they weren't really allowed to be the face of it.
34:59
SPEAKER_01: So the 70s we got a little more of that we're you know Janice Joplin was the 60s right but in the 70s you started to get you know a lot of more of the females stepping out like you know like we talked um but uh I lost my train of thought but that's all right um I mean but going back into like you know I I I think what like you said like there's always been singer song writers because that's how it comes but I think the 70s was the Renaissance.
35:31
SPEAKER_01: It it was the it's considered the golden age and it and it and it should yes I mean because shit you know another one that we didn't and you've talked about um is um Simon and Garfunkel.
35:43
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah in that 60s but they still had hits in the 70s well I think Paul Simon they went so broken then yeah yep and that's one of the things yeah but Paul Simon should be considered an center songwriter like for sure both of them I I do like me some Simon and Garfung um you know another thing that happened in the 70s arena rock yeah well and and we had talked about that in the bands you mentioned and I know and and I'm not trying to constantly bring them up but Pink Floyd's not really mentioned but if you think about it they were doing but um but theirs was more of like a theatrical play like they really went crazy like I've we've talked about this many a times I've told you that they lost money but yeah you know I would have loved you know like my dad showed me ticket stubs of like when he went and seen like Led Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones at like the rubber bowl for like four dollars.
36:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm I mean I'm not a fan of but when you think about for four bucks that's what I'm saying I could like four dollars dude parking is thirty dollars I know like especially if you go to Cleveland and you see a big band it's like fuck man four dollars I don't even know if that would get you anything I know what I'm saying these days I know what I paid for floor seats for Journey and Toto in 22 and it was not cheap.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: I mean actually when I went and seen Wu Tang in 2021 with my cousin yeah I dude we were like you've seen where we were sitting we were like what 15 to 18 rows back pavilion pretty close.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: I think we paid like$75 a ticket for that which is not bad.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: Bro like I've paid way more for seats farther back.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: Me and the wife were second to last row on the floor and they were like 200 apiece.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: That's how much we paid for Guns N'Roses that's how much we paid for Roger Waters.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy to me.
37:35
SPEAKER_01: But you know you do it just because you want an experience it's an experience you know like I always said I never got to see Pink Floyd and Roger Waters was the closest thing I could get to it.
37:44
SPEAKER_02: So I'll let me name off some of these arena rock bands and let me see how many you know.
37:49
SPEAKER_02: Alright let's see I know you're gonna know the first one Journey of course Boston of course sticks of course that's cartel right Mr.
37:58
SPEAKER_02: Roboto Foreigner I love right a band I always forget I have so many songs from in my phone a lot of big hits in the 80s too yes uh one of my most hated bands Kiss oh I can't overrated I I now when we talk Beatles and I say I don't like them I see the appeal.
38:20
SPEAKER_01: When we talk KISS I don't see the appeal I know people love them and that's cool great for you.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: And I personally think Zean Simmons is a piece of shit but that's for another story.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah I'm not a I'm not a fan of KISS uh never have and never will be let's see who else Queen gotta love Queen man love and we mentioned it before in the movies oh yeah Bohemian Rhapsody's oh it's one of the best uh biopics ever made amazing Aerosmith I always forget about them man and I'm not a big Aerosmith fan Toys in the Attic The Who of course the Who and one of I I think a really underrated band from I already know where you're going with this because I've seen the list but I'm a fan of them too and it's gonna separate well Kansas there was another one you put on there that you didn't mention it's an uh exclamation yes oh yeah yeah they had some big hits in the 80s too yeah but yeah I always forget they started in the 70s I I only know them because that was another band that my mom and dad listened to a lot yeah um and from what my dad said they they put on pretty big big tours when they had their little popularity so that's why I thought um Kansas I always forget about Kansas Dust in the Wind Wayward Sun man what I mean oh I can't sing yeah me neither I won't even try because yeah dude arena rock and like I said you know we've said that when Pink Floyd did the wall they lost millions of dollars because it was such a because like it was crazy how they would do it they would build the wall as the concert was going yes and then part of because like I said it's supposed to be listened to front to back.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: Right.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: And as the the album progresses he starts to break that wall and they start tearing it down at the end and there was just so much going on like if you guys ever get a chance um go I'll I'll put it up there was a show done in the 80s but it was from the wall Roger Waters did it but it was called Roger Waters the Wall live in Berlin.
40:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah I I might actually have the DVD of that yes because what he did was is he had a bunch of other artists like um he had um um the scorpions uh they did one of the songs um like the scorpions uh I'm thinking um I can't think of the name but they're all Brian Adams he did young lust wow um they they they he did a uh Cindy Lauper damn dude if you get a chance to watch it it's an amazing live concert but that sounds amazing but yeah Arena Rock that yeah you're right that really took off like you said the stones yeah um that that kind of tailed off late late mid to late 70s and then it flowed somewhat into the 80s with and then it kind of died out until like yeah the 90s had a few but then the 2000s concerts weren't a thing it wasn't there's actually been in the last ten years the resurgence of big concerts and like you know for me honestly I wouldn't I think going to a football stadium for a concert would suck balls it's just too much it's too big you're too far away you can't see shit I love being in an arena or an amphitheater like Blossom to where you you're close enough you can still see with your own eyes without having to look at a big screen.
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SPEAKER_01: If it I agree but unless we're doing like a Coachella Woodstock that kind of thing but I'm not a festival guy I never have been I've never actually been to a multi-day festival now I went and seen uh Lincoln Park in the Project Revolution tour in 2011 2010 I'm jealous um it was Lincoln Park Ash or Lincoln Park Chris Cornell Ashes Divide um 10 years was there this was when they were first starting out wow um Hawthorne Heights which is actually a rock group from Youngstown um but it was an all day thing and I went to that um Buster Rhimes was there um uh that was the closest thing to a festival to a festival and that a rover fest but those were all one day events yeah not multi yeah I've I've never actually done the multi-day thing and I'm too old to do that now I wouldn't want to go out there no because if you think about it unless you have a hotel in your I was gonna say unless I could pay like a VIP suite type deal I don't think it'd be my my cup of tea.
42:56
SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't want to be camping and then not be able to shower and then you feel like just grungy gross garbagey I've you know I'm a city boy camping's never been something I've no looked for no I like to camp once in a blue I I'm good um I it it just doesn't appeal to me.
43:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah not not being in nature like we can go stay in a tent for like a day or two but like long stay camping it's just not it it it I don't know it just has never appealed to me.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: It makes sense but one thing we didn't talk about we can jump into a little bit we've mentioned it but is is funk.
43:33
SPEAKER_01: You know your Bootsy Collins your George Clinton your Parliament Funkadelic um uh I don't know how much of that you listen to but obviously as a hip hop head uh hip hop was greatly especially in the eighties and early nineties with funk music so you had a lot of samples and you know you had like the Ohio players and stuff like that.
43:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh what the hell um Grandfunk Railroad Grandfunk
44:00
SPEAKER_02: Who was the they they they did the song uh play that funky music?
44:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh that wild cherry?
44:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah wild cherry.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: That's as close to funk as I'm you know.
44:08
SPEAKER_01: I f I fucked with funk.
44:10
SPEAKER_01: Bootsy collins is just amazing.
44:12
SPEAKER_02: I just I don't go out of my way to Yeah, no, I get it.
44:15
SPEAKER_02: But I know That's how I am with Punk.
44:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:17
SPEAKER_02: Actually, I don't even really like punk, but I mean I will say, I mean, I know this we could set this for the 80s, but punk Punk did give birth in the 80s to one of my favorite genres, which is thrash.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: So that's a lot of punk roots, a lot of heavy metal roots, kind of my favorite genres from the 90s was kind of a a a second cousin to it, and that's grunge.
44:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love I love me some grunge.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: But we'll get into the nineties.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: Um two weeks.
44:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yep.
44:46
SPEAKER_02: Um 47 weeks for you guys.
44:49
SPEAKER_02: Not really.
44:51
SPEAKER_02: It feels like a while, though.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: It's a while, September.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: Um shit.
44:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:55
SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't what what what else do you want to delve into, big big dog?
45:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't really have a whole lot more to do.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: We can we can we can talk about, I mean, there was a pretty pretty big the death of Elvis.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: Man, what a bitch of a way to go.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, on the toilet.
45:13
SPEAKER_01: Dying where you're taking a shit.
45:14
SPEAKER_01: Constipated like man.
45:16
SPEAKER_01: That was all them pain pills, though.
45:17
SPEAKER_01: They clog you up, man.
45:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:19
SPEAKER_01: I found that out from my father.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: He was uh, yeah, my mom, same thing.
45:23
SPEAKER_01: She had problems, but we'll plug you the fuck up.
45:26
SPEAKER_01: Um he looked like shit though.
45:27
SPEAKER_01: My mom used to tell me stories like about how like them last couple, like he was bloated and stuff.
45:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, sweaty as fuck on sand.
45:34
SPEAKER_01: Still sounded good.
45:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, still but he looked like shit.
45:37
SPEAKER_01: He he did have a nice uh comeback in the early 70s, and you know, fun fact about him the two songs that I love about him are songs that um the one is escaping me, but there's a song he did that it it was it's it's a deep song, but it's called and I don't know if you've ever heard it, but it's called Don't Cry Daddy.
46:01
SPEAKER_02: No, I've never heard that one.
46:02
SPEAKER_02: I'll let you listen to it after this.
46:04
SPEAKER_01: But it's it's a sad song, but it's it's a song from his that my mom would listen to, and it was one that I actually liked.
46:10
SPEAKER_01: Um, I never like disliked or liked him.
46:13
SPEAKER_01: I I was I was indifferent.
46:15
SPEAKER_01: But when I got older and I realized it was an integral part.
46:19
SPEAKER_01: He was, but he was also a bad person.
46:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh yes.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh he liked underage girls, and he also stole a lot of music from African American artists.
46:29
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that was a hundred percent him, it could have been the label, but nonetheless, you know, those are two things that I I'm not, you know, because like he married Lisa Marie when she was like 14 and he was like 20 something, so or not Lisa Marie, but uh Priscilla, I'm sorry.
46:42
SPEAKER_01: Priscilla, yeah.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: At least it was his daughter, that would have been even grosser.
46:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um she's dead too.
46:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah shit.
46:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know what I did I just thought of that we could I mean the birth of Michael Jackson off the wall.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're talking about a legendary artist.
46:56
SPEAKER_01: Yes, he's Jackson 5, but off the wall was big.
47:00
SPEAKER_01: It don't, you know, want to be starting something, yeah, I want to rock with you, like I mean these are big songs.
47:06
SPEAKER_02: Very um early, early solo, right?
47:10
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, that was it was late 70s, and that's when he went solo.
47:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: That just popped in my head.
47:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: Off the wall was was was I think 78 or 79.
47:22
SPEAKER_02: So what followed that into the 80s was it it wasn't Thriller, was it?
47:26
SPEAKER_02: No, Thriller was mid-80s, right?
47:27
SPEAKER_01: No, Thriller was 83?
47:29
SPEAKER_01: 83?
47:30
SPEAKER_02: Maybe that was sophomore?
47:31
SPEAKER_01: Or no.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: I can't I know God was bad before that or after that?
47:36
SPEAKER_01: I d I don't remember.
47:38
SPEAKER_01: Because I know after that I guess I can look it up.
47:45
SPEAKER_01: Um because that's bothering me now.
47:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, see?
47:48
SPEAKER_02: See, I threw it out there and now it's like shit.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: Because my brain is like mush right now.
47:56
SPEAKER_02: I'll take a drink of my iced tea.
47:59
SPEAKER_01: So Off the Wall was 1979, so right at the very end.
48:06
SPEAKER_02: Thriller was 82.
48:07
SPEAKER_02: 82.
48:08
SPEAKER_02: I see we were both.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: And bad was 87.
48:11
SPEAKER_02: So Thriller was literally sophomore album.
48:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:14
SPEAKER_02: That's a shock because you know there's that sophomore curse thing.
48:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, there's only a few big big names that have kind of overcome that.
48:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's uh Eminem is a perfect example.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: Um, he had the Slim Shady, which had High My Name Is, which was I mean, it was huge, platinum album.
48:34
SPEAKER_01: But the Marshall Mathers MP LP sent him to the stratosphere.
48:37
SPEAKER_02: So to the moon, baby.
48:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but yeah, um I mean, really, we could have gone so many ways with the 70s, so much happened.
48:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think we covered everything we wanted to cover though.
48:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean I didn't want to do chronological because there was so much to unpack.
48:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's kind of hard.
48:53
SPEAKER_01: And like I said, I was able to talk about the birth of my hip hop and the hip hop thing.
49:00
SPEAKER_01: I was surprised you didn't know.
49:01
SPEAKER_01: Well, you did you think it was the 80s?
49:05
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, no, because if you think about it, like the the Sugar Hill gang and the and the Rapper's Delight, the hip hop, that was 1979.
49:14
SPEAKER_01: Really?
49:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I've heard that song a million times.
49:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh, there was another song um that came out that was really popular.
49:20
SPEAKER_01: You've never heard it.
49:21
SPEAKER_01: I'll let you hear it after this.
49:23
SPEAKER_01: It's called Super Rappin'.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: Super rapping.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: And it's by um, I believe it was Grandmaster uh Flash and if you have.
49:32
SPEAKER_01: Yes, and uh there's another one uh by the Sugar Hill gang that was really popular.
49:37
SPEAKER_01: That I'll I'll let you hear all of them.
49:38
SPEAKER_01: I'll give you a little snippet.
49:39
SPEAKER_01: And it's called Apache.
49:41
SPEAKER_01: Um crunchy! Oh man, my my hands are stiff today.
49:46
SPEAKER_01: Um but um yeah, I mean, dude, the 70s, I mean it it birthed a lot of our favorites.
49:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
49:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, it was a very pivotal time in the world, yeah, just with civil rights and and upreest and the Vietnam War, and just I I really think the world was changing really like music was changing and things were changing, but the 70s we really started like turning into the fast-paced world we l we start to live into today.
50:21
SPEAKER_02: And if you really, really think about it with what we said to to start the episode with everything just being expanded and exploded, it's like it's literally like a tree, you know, everything branches off to everything else.
50:35
SPEAKER_02: And if you really delve into it, a lot of that is still the same way to this day.
50:40
SPEAKER_02: In fact, even more.
50:41
SPEAKER_02: There's like more subgenre.
50:43
SPEAKER_02: It's like it's subsection C, paragraph four, sentence nine.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: It's like, what the f oh bro.
50:50
SPEAKER_01: I I we could sit here and have a bull session on the amount of subgenres just in hip hop.
50:55
SPEAKER_02: It makes my head hurt.
50:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's same thing in rock.
50:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh, for sure.
51:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, man.
51:01
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it it it was a pivotal part in the world just in everyday life, but music, it was I don't even I mean, I think if you lived it, you might have felt it.
51:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you didn't really know until like the eighties hit.
51:15
SPEAKER_01: You're like, holy shit, the 70s were fucking insane.
51:18
SPEAKER_01: It's insane.
51:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
51:19
SPEAKER_02: And I'm I'm interested uh I'm interested to delve next week into the 80s and see how it shifted from the late 70s to the eighth.
51:25
SPEAKER_01: We it was it was definitely a big shift because I I think, and we'll talk about it, the biggest thing was the mass media of of what hit it and it kind of really, you know, took off because now it was really getting worldwide and I think the thing that really helped the 70s kind of over the course of the decade was you know, you had more access to FM radio, not AM.
51:56
SPEAKER_02: You had more access to FM where they were playing longer songs.
52:01
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you'd get a show that would they would just play the whole album.
52:03
SPEAKER_02: The whole album.
52:04
SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
52:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they did that uh a lot.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: Um but I guess I mean we we covered everything.
52:14
SPEAKER_01: Um is it is it is it time?
52:16
SPEAKER_02: It's time to go to shuffle it.
52:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's right.
52:19
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna do a 70s specific shuffle it, sir.
52:23
SPEAKER_02: Go about it for go about it's alright.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: It's fun too.
52:34
SPEAKER_01: Okie dokie, so I make sure.
52:39
SPEAKER_01: Alright, I'll go first.
52:41
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, you go first this week.
52:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I went first last week.
52:45
SPEAKER_01: So the these are gonna be these are gonna be interesting.
52:52
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
52:52
SPEAKER_01: Uh the first one I have is You Are the Sunshine of My Life by Stevie Wonder.
52:56
SPEAKER_01: Bro, it's a good song.
52:57
SPEAKER_01: It's a great song.
52:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, the next one, of course, is Family Affair by Sly and the Family Stone.
53:04
SPEAKER_02: Sly and the Family Stone.
53:05
SPEAKER_02: We didn't even talk about them.
53:07
SPEAKER_01: They were massive in the 70s, bro.
53:09
SPEAKER_01: Um and here's a group we didn't mention, but You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet by Bachman Turner Overdrive.
53:14
SPEAKER_01: BTO, baby.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: Ah, love me to BTO.
53:17
SPEAKER_01: Um You can go your own way by uh Fleetwood Mac.
53:22
SPEAKER_02: I know you're not a big fan of my although that's one of the songs I I enjoy.
53:26
SPEAKER_02: How many is that?
53:26
SPEAKER_02: Four?
53:27
SPEAKER_01: Four.
53:27
SPEAKER_01: And then I have I Wanna Be Your Lover by Prince.
53:29
SPEAKER_02: Ooh, everybody forgets Prince's like.
53:32
SPEAKER_02: That's that's was when he started.
53:34
SPEAKER_02: The 80s is when he really started.
53:36
SPEAKER_01: But I mean, like Little Rod Corvette and all that, I think was 79.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: So I thought Little Red Corvette was 80s.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah I don't know.
53:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't know either.
53:43
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember.
53:44
SPEAKER_02: I just know it's a good goddamn song.
53:47
SPEAKER_01: But yep, that was where my shuffle went.
53:51
SPEAKER_01: So what what what did yours look like?
53:53
SPEAKER_02: Man, and here's another heavy hitter we didn't even talk about.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: Maggie May by Rod Stewart.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
54:01
SPEAKER_01: I forgot about Rod Stewart.
54:02
SPEAKER_01: That's another singer song writer.
54:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's English.
54:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh farewell tour this year, I think.
54:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think he's because he's like 87,000 fucking years old, but still can bring it.
54:14
SPEAKER_02: So Alright, what do we got next?
54:17
SPEAKER_02: Number two.
54:18
SPEAKER_02: That's funny.
54:19
SPEAKER_02: I got a name.
54:20
SPEAKER_02: Jim Croce.
54:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, well that's that tracks.
54:24
SPEAKER_02: That tracks, yeah.
54:25
SPEAKER_02: Alright, number three.
54:27
SPEAKER_02: Ooh, I'll take you there.
54:29
SPEAKER_02: The staple singers.
54:31
SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
54:31
SPEAKER_00: I'll take you there.
54:33
SPEAKER_01: I knew the song, but I didn't know that was the name of the band that's in the same.
54:40
SPEAKER_02: How many was that?
54:40
SPEAKER_02: Four?
54:42
SPEAKER_01: I think.
54:45
SPEAKER_02: No, that was number three.
54:46
SPEAKER_02: Three, yeah.
54:47
SPEAKER_02: Alright, number four.
54:48
SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
54:49
SPEAKER_02: Here's another band we didn't even talk about, and they were huge in the 70s.
54:54
SPEAKER_02: Evil Woman by Electric Light Orchestra.
54:57
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
54:58
SPEAKER_01: This is weird, but in my mind I thought we didn't talk about ELO.
55:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we didn't talk about ELO.
55:02
SPEAKER_01: Steve, uh, my old mentor was a big Yellow fan.
55:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like Yellow, man.
55:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, they were good.
55:07
SPEAKER_02: Alright, here's the number five.
55:13
SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
55:14
SPEAKER_02: Boogie Fever.
55:15
SPEAKER_01: That's all right.
55:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just don't like disco, man.
55:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I didn't like disco neither.
55:20
SPEAKER_02: My dad doesn't like disco.
55:21
SPEAKER_02: It's it's a it's an aquarium.
55:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we didn't we didn't listen to it in my house.
55:24
SPEAKER_01: No.
55:24
SPEAKER_02: I think my dad had like one Bee Gees record, but they they were the most, I think the most palatable disco because they did other things.
55:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:33
SPEAKER_02: And it was, you know, I can listen to some Bee Gees and be like, yeah, it's a good song.
55:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:37
SPEAKER_02: It didn't all, even though they were labeled disco, it wasn't all disco.
55:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:42
SPEAKER_02: And you know, you could even say we all love the song because they play it at every wedding you've ever been to, or any any kind of group event.
55:51
SPEAKER_02: Event YMCA by the village people.
55:53
SPEAKER_01: Yep, yep.
55:53
SPEAKER_01: That's uh that I don't think that song will ever die.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
55:57
SPEAKER_01: Of course not.
55:58
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
55:59
SPEAKER_01: Now that Shuffle it's over.
56:02
SPEAKER_01: Is it time?
56:04
SPEAKER_00: Is it time?
56:06
SPEAKER_00: It's time for another dad joke.
56:08
SPEAKER_00: I know I shouldn't have done that because my joke was on it.
56:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh oh.
56:11
SPEAKER_01: I love I I I love the dad joke.
56:14
SPEAKER_02: That's alright, I might remember it.
56:16
SPEAKER_02: Why did the singer songwriter bring a pencil to the studio?
56:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
56:27
SPEAKER_02: Because he wanted to write a hit.
56:35
SPEAKER_01: And on that note, we'll see you next week.