Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #915 A Slice of Advice on School Lunches
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. It's the podcast for.
- 0:07Speaker 2: The time poor parent who just wants answers.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Now, good day.
- 0:11Speaker 3: My name's doctor Justin Courslan here with Kylie, my wife
- 0:13Speaker 3: from mum to our six kids. Welcome to the Happy
- 0:14Speaker 3: Family's Podcast. Ozzie as Yossi, I that wasn't even pre planned.
- 0:19Speaker 3: I love that even though you were born in New
- 0:21Speaker 3: Zealand and are now a naturalized Australian.
- 0:23Speaker 1: That just came straight out.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Well let's just say I am Australian.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Yes, you are.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Long winded.
- 0:31Speaker 3: I really hope that you enjoyed the Australia at Long
- 0:33Speaker 3: weekend and got heaps out of it, lots of time
- 0:35Speaker 3: with your family. We have a friend who became a
- 0:37Speaker 3: naturalized Australian over the weekend, so congratulations to him and
- 0:41Speaker 3: anyone else who became an Aussie and is now fortunate
- 0:45Speaker 3: to live in such a brilliant, brilliant country.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Kylie.
- 0:49Speaker 3: All this week we've got kids right around the nation
- 0:52Speaker 3: going back to school. Last week a couple of states began,
- 0:54Speaker 3: but now this week it's pretty much everybody else, I think,
- 0:57Speaker 3: and we decided that we are going to make life
- 1:00Speaker 3: as easy as we can for parents this week short
- 1:02Speaker 3: podcasts podcasts for time pop parents who just want answers. Now,
- 1:06Speaker 3: we're going to give you a slice of advice, a
- 1:09Speaker 3: single slice of advice each day to help make things
- 1:13Speaker 3: go smoothly with the return to school.
- 1:16Speaker 2: I know you're saying a slice of advice, but I
- 1:18Speaker 2: know you too well, and I think that this might
- 1:20Speaker 2: be more like a loaf of advice.
- 1:22Speaker 1: We're going to do it really short. Okay.
- 1:24Speaker 3: We actually put a list together for today and there's
- 1:26Speaker 3: six slices of advice.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Okay, six, so.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Two double decker sandwiches.
- 1:30Speaker 1: What we're up for.
- 1:31Speaker 3: What we're doing today is a slice of advice on
- 1:34Speaker 3: school lunches because number one, it's hot, right and kids
- 1:38Speaker 3: don't like hot, mushy food by the time they get
- 1:41Speaker 3: to recess and lunch. Number two, cost of living crunch
- 1:45Speaker 3: nobody likes making food and seeing it go to waste.
- 1:47Speaker 1: And number three lunches kind of.
- 1:51Speaker 3: It's one of those things, Kylie, where it takes a
- 1:53Speaker 3: lot of effort in the morning, takes a lot of
- 1:54Speaker 3: effort to drag out of the kids what they're going
- 1:56Speaker 3: to take for lunch.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Then it takes efforts to make the lunch and the
- 2:00Speaker 1: lunch and to make sure it all happens.
- 2:01Speaker 3: If we're going to go to the effort of doing
- 2:03Speaker 3: what we can to ensure that our children are taking
- 2:05Speaker 3: a healthy lunch to school, we want to make sure
- 2:07Speaker 3: that it's eaten and that.
- 2:08Speaker 1: It's worth eating.
- 2:09Speaker 3: So six slices of advice for how we can get
- 2:12Speaker 3: the kids eating their lunch rather than binning it or
- 2:15Speaker 3: bringing it home.
- 2:17Speaker 2: First slice, stick with foods that are familiar to your children.
- 2:22Speaker 2: This is not the time to start introducing new foods
- 2:25Speaker 2: and trying to extend their taste buds.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Yeah, stretching taste buds is a challenge. The best time
- 2:30Speaker 3: with kids, full tummy is better than no food in
- 2:33Speaker 3: the tummy. So just prioritize sending them to school with
- 2:37Speaker 3: food that you know that they're going to eat. That's
- 2:38Speaker 3: your first slice of advice. Here's mine. We've done this
- 2:41Speaker 3: in our home. This has been one of the most
- 2:43Speaker 3: successful things we've.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Done around school lunches.
- 2:45Speaker 3: Menu plan and what I mean by that is literally
- 2:48Speaker 3: create a menu like you'd get at a I don't know,
- 2:52Speaker 3: at a restaurant.
- 2:53Speaker 2: No, like a roadside motel when you go to those.
- 2:56Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like the breakfasts, Order things order, Yeah, okay,
- 3:00Speaker 3: So in our home we've created menus with a whole
- 3:02Speaker 3: lot of lunch options. What that does is it reduces
- 3:05Speaker 3: the cognitive load on a busney morning for everyone.
- 3:09Speaker 2: It's not just mum and dad, because you'll notice that
- 3:12Speaker 2: when your kids are rushing around trying to do everything,
- 3:14Speaker 2: the last thing that they've got the capacity to do
- 3:16Speaker 2: is work out what they want to eat.
- 3:18Speaker 3: And when you're saying, what what do you want on
- 3:19Speaker 3: your sandwich? You want to do roll and they're kind
- 3:22Speaker 3: of going it's all too much. So by building a menu,
- 3:25Speaker 3: letting them decide their lunch options, and ideally doing it
- 3:28Speaker 3: the night before so that that way that cognitive load
- 3:30Speaker 3: is reduced even more, they're going to feel a sense
- 3:33Speaker 3: of ownership they've chosen what they want, much higher chance
- 3:36Speaker 3: of lunch box coming home empty with food in their
- 3:39Speaker 3: belly when we've done it, we've given them options for
- 3:42Speaker 3: different kinds of breads or bread rolls or wraps that
- 3:44Speaker 3: they want. In terms of just what the food is
- 3:47Speaker 3: going to be placed on or in, we've put all
- 3:50Speaker 3: the different salads for them to tick, lettuce, tomato, cheese, onions, sprouts.
- 3:54Speaker 3: They never ever ticked sprouts. I don't understand what was
- 3:57Speaker 3: going on there, Avocado, the whole lot. And then our
- 4:00Speaker 3: job is just to have a look at the menu
- 4:01Speaker 3: that they've ticked the night before, make sure the foods
- 4:03Speaker 3: in the fridge for the next morning or.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Raced out of the shops and sort that out.
- 4:07Speaker 2: And it just clearly you weren't in the kitchen because
- 4:10Speaker 2: generally what I did was made sure all of those
- 4:12Speaker 2: foods were in the fridge for the week, not the
- 4:15Speaker 2: night before.
- 4:16Speaker 1: I've done a couple of last minute runs to the shops.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Believe me. Anyway, men, you plan, I think.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Is going to be a really useful solution strategy. Put
- 4:24Speaker 3: all the different drinks they can have, the different sandwich feelings,
- 4:27Speaker 3: the different types of breads they can have, and whatever
- 4:30Speaker 3: else you can come up with leftovers the whole lot,
- 4:32Speaker 3: let them tick and flick the night before.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Slice number three. Preparing pre preparing foods and freezing them.
- 4:42Speaker 2: This is awesome. We've done this a lot over the
- 4:44Speaker 2: years with the kids, buying things in bolg and then
- 4:47Speaker 2: individually wrapping them so that they're just easy to grab
- 4:51Speaker 2: out of the freezer. This works for two reasons. Number One,
- 4:54Speaker 2: you do the buy once and you've got access to
- 4:57Speaker 2: it all week long. But secondly, it really helped with
- 5:00Speaker 2: keeping everything fresh. If you're sending your kids to school
- 5:03Speaker 2: with a lunchbox that's going to sit in their school
- 5:04Speaker 2: bag all day, the colder things are the fresher they
- 5:07Speaker 2: stay for longer.
- 5:09Speaker 3: We have a friend who used to I think this
- 5:11Speaker 3: was lazy, but it was also genius. Why work harder,
- 5:13Speaker 3: just work smarter, right, This friend used to go down
- 5:16Speaker 3: to the shops, make the purchase of the bread. They'd
- 5:19Speaker 3: come home, lay out all the bread on the bench,
- 5:21Speaker 3: put the peanut butter or the veggiemite or whatever the
- 5:23Speaker 3: filling was that was going to go under the bread.
- 5:25Speaker 3: Then they'd put all the sandwiches together, stick them back
- 5:27Speaker 3: into the bread bag. And each morning the kids would
- 5:30Speaker 3: just reach into the freezer pull a sandwich out. It
- 5:32Speaker 3: was already glad wrapped ahead of time as well, and
- 5:34Speaker 3: so that way they could literally just pull the sandwich
- 5:36Speaker 3: frozen out of the freezer, stick it in their lunchbox,
- 5:39Speaker 3: and off to school.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Job done.
- 5:40Speaker 3: Made things really simple. Fourth slice of advice. I'll make
- 5:44Speaker 3: this one nice and quick because I've never really been
- 5:46Speaker 3: involved in this one. There's a probably one that you've
- 5:48Speaker 3: done a lot more than me. Baking days. This was
- 5:51Speaker 3: your idea, and it's a great idea. Baking days like
- 5:53Speaker 3: on a Saturday. Turn it into a ritual. Prepare keishes
- 5:56Speaker 3: or muffins or other lunch friendly items that are going
- 6:00Speaker 3: to fit in a lunch box the kids are going
- 6:02Speaker 3: to love, but that you don't have time to prep
- 6:04Speaker 3: on a school morning. When you do that stuff, the
- 6:06Speaker 3: kids have food they're looking forward to eating. And again
- 6:09Speaker 3: it's probably been in the freezer, so it stays fresh longer.
- 6:13Speaker 3: It just works better baking days. Use the freezer menu plan,
- 6:17Speaker 3: make sure they've got food that they like. I think
- 6:19Speaker 3: that we're on a winner here. Two more slices of advice.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Bento boxes. These are great for kids who don't actually
- 6:26Speaker 2: like committing to one thing that gives them a taste.
- 6:29Speaker 2: It's like a taste plate.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Yeah, Or often they don't want a sandwich.
- 6:32Speaker 3: They just want a range of foods that aren't sort
- 6:35Speaker 3: of smushed between bread and.
- 6:37Speaker 2: So the great thing about this is everything goes in
- 6:39Speaker 2: its own little compartment. They can have vegetables, fruit, they
- 6:43Speaker 2: can have nuts. It's a little bit tricky sometimes, but
- 6:45Speaker 2: nuts and seeds, dried fruit, they can have meat. There's
- 6:50Speaker 2: all the different things that you can have, but it's
- 6:52Speaker 2: all individually spaced.
- 6:54Speaker 3: Two things that I love about Bento boxes. Number One,
- 6:57Speaker 3: you don't have food mingling, so the flavor to stay
- 7:00Speaker 3: where they should, nothing leaks into the other compartments.
- 7:03Speaker 1: If you've got a good quality Bento box.
- 7:04Speaker 3: Thing that I like most about Bento boxes the food
- 7:07Speaker 3: just looks great when it's all compartmentalized and separated and
- 7:10Speaker 3: put in there, it looks good.
- 7:12Speaker 1: And when food looks good, when it looks attractive.
- 7:14Speaker 2: The more inviting it is to eat.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Yeah, every Valentine's Day, you make a very special Bento
- 7:18Speaker 3: box style lunch for our kids with a whole lot
- 7:20Speaker 3: of red and pink foods, including way too much sugar.
- 7:24Speaker 3: But regardless of that, it all looks so attractive and
- 7:28Speaker 3: the kids they look forward to their Valentine's lunch more
- 7:30Speaker 3: than any other lunch of the year.
- 7:32Speaker 2: You only have to make one Valentine's lunch box this year.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Final slice of Advice. Final slice of Advice. It's a
- 7:39Speaker 3: different situation, isn't it. It is for school lunches, and
- 7:42Speaker 3: it's probably got less to do with the school lunch
- 7:45Speaker 3: and more to do with what your kids are doing.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Personal story.
- 7:49Speaker 3: As a kid, growing up, I had squad sessions swim
- 7:52Speaker 3: squad sessions up to ten times a week, so I'd
- 7:55Speaker 3: swim from five to seven in the morning six days
- 7:57Speaker 3: a week, and four afternoons a week. I swam from
- 7:59Speaker 3: five to seven as well. In each of those two
- 8:01Speaker 3: hour sessions, I'd easily be swimming five, six, maybe even
- 8:04Speaker 3: seven kilometers. And when you swim that much and use
- 8:08Speaker 3: your body that much, you're so hungry you don't actually
- 8:10Speaker 3: care what's in your lunch box.
- 8:11Speaker 1: So long as you've got a lunch box with food.
- 8:14Speaker 2: I think you're talking about every boy on the plant
- 8:16Speaker 2: pretty much.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Move your body, or get the kids moving their body
- 8:19Speaker 3: a lot. When they move their bodies that much, they
- 8:23Speaker 3: just become a whole lot less concerned about what they're eating.
- 8:25Speaker 3: All they want is fuel, right, They just want to
- 8:28Speaker 3: get those calories in. I used to take well, I
- 8:31Speaker 3: used to eat fourteen wheet picks for breakfast, and then
- 8:33Speaker 3: I would take twelve bread rolls from the supermarket with
- 8:37Speaker 3: marmite and butter spread on them.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Twelve every day, twelve bread rolls.
- 8:42Speaker 3: Six for recess, six for lunch. I didn't care what
- 8:44Speaker 3: it tasted like. I just wanted the calories because I
- 8:47Speaker 3: was so hungry, and I was still skinny as a
- 8:50Speaker 3: rake because I just moved my body so much. So
- 8:52Speaker 3: stick to familiar foods ensure that the kid's got a
- 8:54Speaker 3: full belly, create buying through physical activity plan menus, leverage
- 8:58Speaker 3: the power of the freezer, and consider innovative lunchbox solutions.
- 9:01Speaker 3: That's our half loaf of advice.
- 9:04Speaker 1: On school lunches. Good luck, good luck. Yeah, that's right,
- 9:07Speaker 1: good luck.
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- 9:09Speaker 3: they're already back, Hopefully these ideas are helpful. The Happy
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