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Credlin | 3 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on sky Ingins Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steve Price in for Peter Credlin all this week.
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Speaker 2: Great to have you on board. Start of a new
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Speaker 2: leading of course up to the King's Birthday, long weekend
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Speaker 2: in most of Australia. I wonder what that list is
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Speaker 2: going to look like now coming up tonight. Just when
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Speaker 2: you thought ignorance and anti Semitism couldn't get any worse,
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Speaker 2: along comes an ex Green now independent counselor bloke by
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Speaker 2: the name of James Cowden, who replies to security concerns
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Speaker 2: from a rape paying Jewish mum by telling her she
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Speaker 2: was lying about pro Palestine protests. I have more on
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Speaker 2: that shortly. Plus an election war of words, a nuclear war,
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Speaker 2: if you like, is about to erupt between the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister and Peter Dutton with Anthony Albanezi at the weekend
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Speaker 2: in an interview promising to raise the coalition's nuclear energy
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Speaker 2: policy every day between now and Pollingdale have more on
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Speaker 2: that coming up shortly also tonight. Josh Fredenberg has made
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Speaker 2: it clear now that he will not be standing in
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Speaker 2: the seat of Kuyong at this federal election, but is
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Speaker 2: he now lost to the Liberal Party forever. The Australian
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Speaker 2: newspapers Dennis Shanahan, who knows Friedenberg very well, he'll talk
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Speaker 2: to us shortly about that WA's Cateribal Perth. I don't
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Speaker 2: know if you caught this on Friday. It was at
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Speaker 2: a standstill last week with a massive protest over the
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Speaker 2: fed's decision to phase out the live sheep export industry.
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Speaker 2: Now we've seen this before from Labor when they shut
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Speaker 2: down catile exports to Indonesia. What a disaster that was.
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Speaker 2: That industry has finally recovered, but this sheep ban is
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Speaker 2: going to kick in from twenty twenty eight and it's
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Speaker 2: going to be permanent. Of farmers will join us tonight.
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Speaker 2: And speaking of nuclear energy, reports across the weekend urging
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Speaker 2: Australia to do more to deliver uranium or to our
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Speaker 2: offshore customers, despite Labour's unhinge hatred of anything nuclear, it
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Speaker 2: seems except our ucat submarines. Now we have a third
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Speaker 2: of the globe's uranium reserves, but we represent just twelve
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Speaker 2: percent of global production. We'll try and find out more
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Speaker 2: about that. And basket case Victoria, here we go again,
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Speaker 2: out of controls spending on massive infrastructure projects the state
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Speaker 2: can't afford. We will catch up with National Senator Bridget mackenzie,
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Speaker 2: but first this hard left Melbourne local counselor bloke by
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Speaker 2: the name of James Conlin. He's a former Green, he's
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Speaker 2: now an Independent, and his pathetic response to a local
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Speaker 2: Jewish resident, a young mother who fears being identified in
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Speaker 2: our own suburb. This is appalling but typical of two
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Speaker 2: bit local politicians, especially from inner city councils like Mary Beck.
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Speaker 2: They are a gender driven, more interested in trying to
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Speaker 2: insert themselves into global politics rather than picking up rubbish
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Speaker 2: and fixing the roads. But this from Conlin is worse.
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Speaker 2: The context here the local Jewish mum who shouldn't ever
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Speaker 2: feel threatened in her own suburb. She inside her own home,
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Speaker 2: in fact, writes to the local councilor Conlin. She made
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Speaker 2: the point every time she leaves home. She's on high alert.
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Speaker 2: She points out that the man Main Road in Brunswick,
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Speaker 2: which is the suburb where she lives, Sydney Road, is
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Speaker 2: filled with posters supporting pro Palestinian rallies. She's taken down
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Speaker 2: a Hebrew parchment from on her front door, and she's
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Speaker 2: desperately upgrading her security systems. Now, this is Australia twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four and as we saw in Josh Fridenberg's outstanding
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Speaker 2: documentary on Sky last week, anti Semitism is running in
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Speaker 2: this country out of control. We just saw Chris and
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Speaker 2: Shari talking about it. So what does Conlin, this two
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Speaker 2: bit local government member of the council do, What does
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Speaker 2: he do? In reply, you won't maybe you will, you
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Speaker 2: won't believe it, he says, quote this is Conlin. I'm
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Speaker 2: losing patients in trying to understand how opposing a genocide
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Speaker 2: is so complicated for some parts of the community. End
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Speaker 2: of quote. In other words, what are you complaining about?
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Speaker 2: What a jerk he is? But it gets worse. He's
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Speaker 2: posted a lengthy response in reply to the reporting about
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Speaker 2: all of this. I should point out before going further
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Speaker 2: that his counsel, Mary Beck, was one of the first
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Speaker 2: councils in Australia to pass a motion supporting the people
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Speaker 2: of Gaza, and they even voted to fly the Palestinian
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Speaker 2: flag outside the council chamber. But back to Conlin and
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Speaker 2: his reply to someone he is supposed to represent. Now
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Speaker 2: his constituent complained about anti Jewish rallies supporting Palestine and
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Speaker 2: calling for the elimination of Israel. Conlin tries to argue this,
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Speaker 2: and he says, quote, I'd like to point out some
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Speaker 2: blatant lies in your email. I've been to many pro
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Speaker 2: Palestinian rallies and the suggestion that those people are calling
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Speaker 2: for the extermination of the Jews is absolutely offensively wrong
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Speaker 2: and a complete fabrication. He goes on, These lies circulating
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Speaker 2: in the media have been systematically disproven and shown to
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Speaker 2: be a deliberate attempt by the Zionists to discredit peaceful
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Speaker 2: demonstrations calling for peace and an end to genocide. Now,
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Speaker 2: has this guy Conlin heard the chance from the River
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Speaker 2: to the Sea or has he missed the anti Jewish
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Speaker 2: slogans smeared on schools and synagogues? Has he not seen
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Speaker 2: the Star of David stickers slapped on Jewish businesses in
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Speaker 2: his own council area. Did he miss the disruptive, threatening
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Speaker 2: universversity camps, were the anti Jewish rantings in various mosques
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Speaker 2: around the nation, the rally yesterday dumping rubble in the
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Speaker 2: middle of a major intersection in Melbourne. Now this bloat
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Speaker 2: needs to stick to his knitting. He's a minor suburban
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Speaker 2: seat warmer who's turned into a nasty piece to work,
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Speaker 2: attacking a resident who pays as a council salary. I
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Speaker 2: won't beholding my breath though. Let's head to Canberra now
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Speaker 2: for tonight's political headlines with Sky News as senior political
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Speaker 2: reporter Treaty Macintosh.
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Speaker 3: The Immigration Minister has been forced to concede drones and
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Speaker 3: not being used to monitor detainees. It's the latest twist
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Speaker 3: in the detayedeed debarcle which has been dogging the Albaneze government.
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Speaker 3: This was Andrew Giles on Sky News just last week, and.
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Speaker 2: That's enabled things like using drones to keep track of
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Speaker 2: these people.
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Speaker 3: Just minutes before question time a big back down, Andrew
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Speaker 3: Giles revealed he relied on information from his department, which
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Speaker 3: has since been clarified.
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Speaker 4: What was the basis of the advice that led to
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Speaker 4: this latest example of gross incompetence.
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Speaker 5: I relied on information provided by my department at the time.
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Speaker 6: Which has since which has since been clarifambers.
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Speaker 3: More than two point five million workers will get a
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Speaker 3: boost in their pay packet from July one. The Fair
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Speaker 3: Work Commission announced a three point seventy five percent increase
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Speaker 3: to the minimum wage that flows through to award wages.
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Speaker 7: The union movement would have liked to have seen a
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Speaker 7: bigger increase, having said that any day that working people
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Speaker 7: get a pay increase is a good day.
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Speaker 8: This tests the limits of what's acceptible from a business
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Speaker 8: point of view.
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Speaker 3: The workplace Umpire took into account cost of living pressures,
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Speaker 3: but also noted.
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Speaker 4: We have also taken into account that modern award reliant
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Speaker 4: employees will shortly receive the benefit of the Stage three
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Speaker 4: tax cuts and the budget cost of living measures.
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Speaker 9: What the Commission has decided is you get a wage
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Speaker 9: increase and you get the tax cut.
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Speaker 3: And Josh Fredenberg has moved to quash speculation he's trying
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Speaker 3: to mount a political comeback in his old seat of Kuyong,
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Speaker 3: the former Treasurer saying he isn't rushing back to politics
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Speaker 3: and will continue to support the pre selected candidate, Amelia Hamer.
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Speaker 5: He's made a clear statement just a few minutes ago.
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Speaker 2: I welcome that.
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Speaker 3: Mister Friedenberg had been considering his options after the Electoral
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Speaker 3: Commission released new draft boundaries for the Melbourne seat. Why
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Speaker 3: would they open the pre selections based on draft boundaries alone.
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Speaker 10: You know, draft boundaries change all the time, they have.
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Speaker 6: Done in the past. It would be a crazy thing
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Speaker 6: to do.
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Speaker 3: Trudy Macintosh, Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Trudy. Now, as Trudy mentioned there,
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Speaker 2: Josh Frodenberg has put an end to this speculation. You
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Speaker 2: released a statement this afternoon saying he was quite not
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Speaker 2: rushing back to politics and his position on standing for
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Speaker 2: the next election remains unchanged. He also says you'll continue
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Speaker 2: to support the candidate just mentioned there, Emilia Hamer, who
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Speaker 2: was pre selected. Let's find out what this all means.
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Speaker 2: The national editor of the Australian newspaper, Dennis Shanahan joins us. Dennis,
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Speaker 2: you know Josh for a long time like I have,
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Speaker 2: and I get a sense and you'd be getting communication
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Speaker 2: from him like I do that he's still got a
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Speaker 2: politic go fire within, but he's not yet ready.
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Speaker 10: Yes, good evening, Steve.
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Speaker 8: I like you, find it hard to imagine where all
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Speaker 8: of this talk about a Josh Fridenberg comeback is coming from.
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Speaker 10: I just can't imagine.
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Speaker 8: But what we have seen today is Josh Friedenberg making
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Speaker 8: the right decision as far as he is concerned. As
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Speaker 8: far as the Liberal Party is concerned, and probably as
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Speaker 8: far as his electoral chances are concerned, it would have
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Speaker 8: been madness for him just to suddenly say, oh, the
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Speaker 8: boundaries have changed, I'm now going to stand again for Kuyong,
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Speaker 8: not off, knock off a pre selected female candidate for
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Speaker 8: the seat endorsed by the Liberal Party, and then wait
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Speaker 8: to see if the boundary has changed again for the
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Speaker 8: final AC decision.
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Speaker 10: Look, he's done the right thing.
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Speaker 8: He's decided he's not going to rule it out in
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Speaker 8: the longer term. He's also done the right thing by
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Speaker 8: ruling it out in the short term. We've seen you have,
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Speaker 8: Steven Salve. We've seen leaders, former leaders, former treasurers are
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Speaker 8: all just you know, after they're out of it, always
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Speaker 8: wanting to come back, particularly some who have never been
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Speaker 8: prime minister. And so I think Josh Friedenberg has made
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Speaker 8: the right decision, and I'll wait for a call to
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Speaker 8: see if I've made the right call.
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Speaker 2: It's funny is that last time I raised it with
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Speaker 2: him face to face, he looked at me, Dennis and said, mate,
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Speaker 2: unlike some of the ex front benches, I picked up
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Speaker 2: a pretty good job when I left politics. I'm not
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Speaker 2: in any hurry to go back.
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Speaker 10: That's an important point.
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Speaker 8: He has a very good job and one that I
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Speaker 8: think he'd be very well advised to hold on.
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Speaker 2: To listen. One bloke who might be looking for new
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Speaker 2: job should be the Immigration Minister Andrew Giles Reather. I
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Speaker 2: mean the visa mess that has been created thirty foreign
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Speaker 2: criminals over the weekend following the fallout from Direction ninety nine.
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Speaker 2: He's also got this drone issue now. I was watching
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Speaker 2: the interview on Sky Dennis when he said, oh, well,
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Speaker 2: you know, after they don't have ankle bracelets on, we've
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Speaker 2: got drones watching them, And I thought, hang on, what
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Speaker 2: drones over the houses of these people who have been
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Speaker 2: released to we don't really even know where they are.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it never made any sense, Dennis.
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Speaker 8: But look from the get go it was a completely
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Speaker 8: sort of stupid thing to say. The AFP doesn't have
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Speaker 8: the numbers of people to be able to be controlling
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Speaker 8: drones and flying them over schools and over the accommodation
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Speaker 8: of these people. I think, and today the Minister has
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Speaker 8: said of other aerial mapping, I think somebody looked up
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Speaker 8: Google and looked and said, oh, here's the accommodation.
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Speaker 10: Here's a school here.
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Speaker 8: May not be such a bad idea, but again, the
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Speaker 8: minister cannot take responsibility, will not make admit a mistake,
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Speaker 8: will not make an apology, and blames somebody else. This
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Speaker 8: is just going to continue, and it's getting worse for
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Speaker 8: Labor every parliamentary sitting day.
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Speaker 2: In all your years reporting on federal politics, can you
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Speaker 2: ever remember a minister that's made so many mistakes and
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Speaker 2: looks and looks and sounds weak. It's not just the
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Speaker 2: mistakes he makes. When he tries to stand up and
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Speaker 2: question time and answer questions, he looks nervous and he's weak.
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Speaker 2: Can you ever remember someone hanging on as long? I mean,
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Speaker 2: does this come back to Anthony Albaneze? He just being
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Speaker 2: unwilling to admit that he's made a mistake, putting one
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Speaker 2: of his favorite people in that job.
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Speaker 8: Look, there's no doubt that the only reason Andrew Giles
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Speaker 8: is there is because Antony Albernesi is protecting him.
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Speaker 10: He's being loyal.
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Speaker 8: But the main point here is that Anti Alberanezi does
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Speaker 8: not want to give Peter Dutton a ministerial scalp on
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Speaker 8: the two year anniversary. Last week, the Prime Minister made
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Speaker 8: a big point of saying he's never had to get
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Speaker 8: rid of a minister, and all these other prime ministers
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Speaker 8: had to. Well, the time has come where he really
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Speaker 8: should be getting rid of a minister. The two years
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Speaker 8: is up, so he can can move on and say
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Speaker 8: he didn't have to do it in the first two years.
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Speaker 8: But the damage, the ongoing damage to hold on to
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Speaker 8: Giles is a mistake for labor. And while it will
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Speaker 8: be it's been arguing to me by some people, Oh,
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Speaker 8: if Giles hasn't gone by the end of the week,
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Speaker 8: it'll be a victory for Alberines and a defeat for Dutton. Well,
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Speaker 8: if this damage I mean is a victory for anti Alberanese,
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Speaker 8: it is a pyrrhic victory of monumental proportions. Labor is
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Speaker 8: being damaged out in the community. It's getting worse and worse,
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Speaker 8: and it will only end when Giles goes.
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Speaker 2: As you know better than anyone else. Cost of livings,
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Speaker 2: the big issue will be right up to the next election,
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Speaker 2: whether it be this year or next year. Three point
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Speaker 2: seventy five percent increase of the minimum wage today millions
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Speaker 2: of Australians will get that pay rise, but is so
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Speaker 2: those people on lower salaries, what do you make of
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Speaker 2: that decision today?
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Speaker 8: Oh, look, I think that the Fair Work Commission was
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Speaker 8: always going to give an increase. It's just about the
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Speaker 8: dollar an hour that anti Alberanees has held up junior
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Speaker 8: election campaign. A dollar coin, by the way, lost in
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Speaker 8: question time today. He couldn't find it in his draw
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Speaker 8: But in any case, it's Anti alban keeping his word.
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Speaker 8: The Fair Work Commission has delivered it. It's just above inflation.
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Speaker 8: But the Fair Work Commission has also said, and some
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Speaker 8: economists have said this is sensible. They've said, you know,
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Speaker 8: normally people would expect and certainly the ACTU expected more.
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Speaker 8: But there is going to be a tax cut for
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Speaker 8: workers under forty five thousand from July one, and the
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Speaker 8: Fair Work Commission has said this will help them. So yes,
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Speaker 8: cost of living remains the big problem for everyone, a
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Speaker 8: particular problem for people on lower incomes. The wage in
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Speaker 8: christ increase will put pressure on small businesses particularly and
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Speaker 8: could lead to more business closures and foreclosures, but overall
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Speaker 8: it's not a bad decision in the longer term.
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Speaker 2: The Greens leader Adam Bant once thank me for being
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Speaker 2: a good pr man. For him writing columns criticizing him
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Speaker 2: in Victoria all the time as I love to do.
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Speaker 2: He stood up in question Time today. I'm sure you
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Speaker 2: were there and I can't I can't imagine a more
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Speaker 2: stupid question. Let's have a listen to what Adam Bant
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Speaker 2: said today in a question in Question Time to the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister, will.
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Speaker 9: You join us in condemning Donald Trump and commit to
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Speaker 9: a full review of Australia's relationship with the US. Prime Minister,
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Speaker 9: will you join us in condemning Donald Trump and commit
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Speaker 9: to a full review of Australia's relationship with the United
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Speaker 9: States if this dangerous man is elected president? Will you
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Speaker 9: commit to a full review of Australia's relationship with the
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Speaker 9: United States if candidate Donald Trump is elected president.
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Speaker 2: He had to answer ask the question three times because
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Speaker 2: the speaker ruled it out of order, but he never
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Speaker 2: fails to surprise, does he.
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Speaker 10: Look.
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Speaker 8: You know people have accused Adam Band of puerile university
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Speaker 8: student politics. Well, today's question in the Parliament was sand
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Speaker 8: pit politics. It was as low as you could go.
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Speaker 8: There was never going to be a response. It was
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Speaker 8: pointless and it was if the Prime Minister had even
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Speaker 8: gone anywhere near answering it. It would have been completely damaging.
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Speaker 8: How could a prime minister, any prime minister, comment on
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Speaker 8: the possibility of what would happen with the US alliance
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Speaker 8: depended on somebody who may or may not be elected.
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Speaker 8: It was nonsense from the beginning. It was a political
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Speaker 8: stunt and not even the opposition was prepared to try
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Speaker 8: and backban as he was made to back down on
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Speaker 8: his question, a rephrase his question time and time again,
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Speaker 8: and Anthony Albernezi treated it with a contempt it deserved.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked foolish and it came in after a
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Speaker 2: week of course when we were warned that we can't
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Speaker 2: defend ourselves and if we have to defend ourselves, we're
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Speaker 2: going to have to ask amer to come and help us,
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Speaker 2: as we know is the case. Dennis shanahanle is wonderful
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Speaker 2: to see him, my friend, good on you, Thank you
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Speaker 2: very much for your time. Now, recent speculation about Kujong
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Speaker 2: and I'm not rushing back to politics. My position on
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Speaker 2: contesting the next election remains unchanged. That's what Josh said today.
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Speaker 2: He said he's going to continue to support the Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party and the local candidate Emilia Hamer, so I think
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Speaker 2: we've pretty much cleared that up. Labor's decision let's change
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Speaker 2: our tach here to ban live sheep exports by twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty eight has not gone down well as it wouldn't
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Speaker 2: with farmers. The demonstrations that they had last week. Late
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Speaker 2: last week in Perth were extraordinary. A convoy including over
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Speaker 2: a thousand trucks took over the Perth CBD to demand
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Speaker 2: the government reversed the decision. Join him now to talk
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Speaker 2: about the impact this would have on the farming community.
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Speaker 2: In WA's John Hassel, wa Farmer's President President. We're even
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Speaker 2: new surprised at the turnout late last week or is.
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Speaker 4: That the level of anger, a massive anger throughout the bush.
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Speaker 4: It's not just the farmers, it's the sharing contractors, the
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Speaker 4: trucking contractors. In fact, it'll be devastating for all the
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Speaker 4: small towns throughout the entire wheat belt in our state.
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Speaker 4: And I don't think they realize the depth of despair
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Speaker 4: that people are feeling. So I was really pleased with
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Speaker 4: the amount of turnout. And there are a lot of
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Speaker 4: people who couldn't make it, of course because they're still
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Speaker 4: on their air seeders. But it was a fantastic turnout.
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Speaker 2: So what's the john, what's the attitude of the WA
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Speaker 2: government compared to Canberra, Oh, chalk and cheese.
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Speaker 4: I think Roger Cook has come out and said that
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Speaker 4: even they'll target the marginal electorates if they don't change
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Speaker 4: their tune. So you know that's something that we're planning
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Speaker 4: on doing. We've got a campaign going with www dot
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Speaker 4: Keep the Sheep dot com dot au to raise money,
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Speaker 4: to raise awareness in the five marginal electorates and even
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Speaker 4: the new electorate of Bullwinkle. We're going to target all
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Speaker 4: of those to try and get people to change their
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Speaker 4: tune about how they vote. Because this is a really
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Speaker 4: rotten decision based on a backroom deal with the Animal
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Speaker 4: Justice Party, and I think we can't afford to have
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Speaker 4: politics run on that basis because everything will be up
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Speaker 4: for grams if we do.
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Speaker 2: I love the slogan keep the Sheep. I think it's fantastic.
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Speaker 2: We know that farmers love to protect their livestock. I
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Speaker 2: mean they care for them. Sure, it's a business and
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Speaker 2: you're producing food for the country and with live sheep,
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Speaker 2: you're producing food for the rest of the world. Why
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Speaker 2: do labor politicians always not understand this. I mean I
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Speaker 2: mentioned at the beginning of the program. You can go
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Speaker 2: back to when the former rud Labor government ban live
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Speaker 2: cattle experts to Indonesia and that decimated the industry for
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Speaker 2: a long time. Your industry has done so much to
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Speaker 2: make sure the transport of sheep to the Middle East
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Speaker 2: is done in a human way.
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Speaker 4: It absolutely has and the science is there to show that.
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Speaker 4: And the disappointing thing about Murray what with this is
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Speaker 4: is that we can show him all the science and
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Speaker 4: all the logic and all the reasoning and the way
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Speaker 4: the industry's You had a moratorium self imposed I should
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Speaker 4: say moratorium over the summer months in the Northern Hemisphere,
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Speaker 4: and he just looks right through you and says we're
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Speaker 4: going to ban it anyway. That's not the way to
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Speaker 4: go in the country in my opinion.
21:31
Speaker 2: So what would the markets that the sheep are going to.
21:36
Speaker 2: I presume they would be able to find alternatives to Australia.
21:41
Speaker 2: And once that happens, you can slam the door on
21:45
Speaker 2: your way out because you'll be out of the game
21:48
Speaker 2: and you won't be able to get back in. That's
21:50
Speaker 2: the danger here is I mean, it's fine to say, okay,
21:52
Speaker 2: we're going to have a federal election. I presume the
21:54
Speaker 2: coalition would say that they're not going to do this.
21:56
Speaker 2: But if they lose and Labor gets back in, it
21:59
Speaker 2: seems what it's not going to change his mind.
22:02
Speaker 4: Look, there's all sorts of other things at risk here
22:04
Speaker 4: in the Kuwaiti ambassador had dragged Murray Wadding into his office,
22:07
Speaker 4: I believe, and told him that education of their students
22:11
Speaker 4: in Australia's at risk, that other imports in to Kuwait
22:15
Speaker 4: from Australia, such as wheat, are at risk. So I
22:18
Speaker 4: think that Murray what is completely underestimated not only the
22:20
Speaker 4: sentiment of people here, but also our customers who definitely
22:24
Speaker 4: want live sheep and they prefer Australian live sheet because
22:27
Speaker 4: other people will fill that gap. They've already demonstrated and
22:31
Speaker 4: said that this is what they want, and I think
22:34
Speaker 4: Murray's still not taking any notice. I think he's doing
22:37
Speaker 4: himself a huge amount of harm.
22:41
Speaker 2: And the thing that must upset you, John just Finley,
22:43
Speaker 2: is ignorant people say well, why don't we kill the
22:46
Speaker 2: sheep here, refrigerate it and send it that way. I
22:50
Speaker 2: don't know how many times I've had to explain over
22:52
Speaker 2: the years on radio and television that that's not what
22:56
Speaker 2: the market wants. They want to kill the sheep in
22:58
Speaker 2: the way that they want to kill them, want the
23:00
Speaker 2: meat they're fresh, not frozen. Correct. Well, that's absolutely correct.
23:05
Speaker 4: But also you know there were disputes in the past,
23:07
Speaker 4: and I remember the Albany Avatar. There was a dispute
23:10
Speaker 4: between the unions and the owners, and the owners said, look,
23:12
Speaker 4: if you keep going with these wage rises, we're going
23:14
Speaker 4: to go broke and we'll have to shut the avatar. Now,
23:17
Speaker 4: the unions at the time turned around and said, well,
23:19
Speaker 4: look we're going for the wage rise, which they did,
23:22
Speaker 4: and so the Avatar was shut down. You must remember
23:24
Speaker 4: the Mudgin very dispute. There was lots of it going
23:26
Speaker 4: on where it was just uneconomic to process sheep on shore.
23:34
Speaker 2: John Hassel, great to have you on board to explain
23:37
Speaker 2: it to us. Thank you very much for joining us tonight.
23:39
Speaker 2: Now after the break, will the government take advantage of
23:42
Speaker 2: our uranium reserves as global demand source? I hope it does.
23:47
Speaker 2: Plus the Prime Minister of ours to fight Peter Dutton
23:50
Speaker 2: on nuclear energy every day up until the next election.
24:00
Speaker 2: Welcome back. Steve Price in for Peter Kredlin. The Victorian
24:03
Speaker 2: government's so broke. I'm going to talk about this with
24:06
Speaker 2: my panel coming up. But they're so broke they're going
24:08
Speaker 2: to flog off the Birth, Deaths and Marriages Bureau. Can
24:11
Speaker 2: you believe that? Turn our attention to uranium now? The
24:14
Speaker 2: global demand for uranium is increasing as so many nations
24:18
Speaker 2: around the world transition away from fossil fuel based energy.
24:22
Speaker 2: Now Australia has a third of the world's uranium reserves.
24:27
Speaker 2: We're in a unique position heading into the future, but
24:30
Speaker 2: we don't supply as much as we potentially could. We
24:33
Speaker 2: have the potential to play a key role in the
24:35
Speaker 2: move to nuclear power, but will our government take advantage
24:39
Speaker 2: of that opportunity? For more on this, hope bringing The
24:42
Speaker 2: Australian's Environment editor Graham Lloyd Graham. I read it the weekend.
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Speaker 2: You know, we've got so much uranium. I think it
24:50
Speaker 2: was something like a third of the world's reserves, but
24:52
Speaker 2: we only export and deliver twelve percent of that to
24:58
Speaker 2: the rest of the countries that are used nuclear power.
25:01
Speaker 2: That seems crazy. Is that because of the politics of uranium?
25:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good evening. Steve It's fair to say that
25:10
Speaker 5: the history of politics around the whole nuclear and uranium
25:15
Speaker 5: issue in Australia has never made a lot of sense.
25:18
Speaker 5: We've had bands on the number of minds we can have,
25:22
Speaker 5: the places we can dig it up and places that
25:25
Speaker 5: we can't. We're not allowed to use it ourselves, but
25:27
Speaker 5: we do give it to other people to use. So
25:30
Speaker 5: it's really been caught up in the protest movement of
25:33
Speaker 5: the nineteen seventies and eighties, in the nuclear bomb fears,
25:37
Speaker 5: and we haven't got over that. As you point out,
25:40
Speaker 5: Australia has, together with Canada, a dominant position in the
25:45
Speaker 5: supply of uranium in the world, but we don't export
25:50
Speaker 5: nearly as much as we could, and the pressure's coming
25:53
Speaker 5: on because there is a growth in the nuclear industry
25:56
Speaker 5: for power generation and Russia at this point has a
26:01
Speaker 5: large stranglehold on the supply of those nuclear materials for
26:05
Speaker 5: the power sector. So it's really up to the United States,
26:09
Speaker 5: Europe and other places that are building their nuclear industry
26:14
Speaker 5: to find those supplies so they are not dependent on Russia.
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Speaker 2: I presume it's definitely political grime that we don't enrich
26:23
Speaker 2: uranium in this country. We dig uranium out of the ground,
26:27
Speaker 2: tip it onto ships and ship it offshore where it's
26:30
Speaker 2: enriched in places like you mentioned the United States and
26:33
Speaker 2: also in Europe.
26:36
Speaker 10: Yes, that's right.
26:37
Speaker 5: There's really a very close control over the use of
26:43
Speaker 5: uranium and the yellow cake material that is refined so
26:46
Speaker 5: it can be used for power generation. The United States
26:50
Speaker 5: was looking at setting up a global scheme, if you like,
26:53
Speaker 5: where they would lease the material when it could be
26:57
Speaker 5: used in power stations to really stop liferation of the
27:01
Speaker 5: manufacture of highly enriched uranium, which poses a bigger threat
27:08
Speaker 5: outside of the power sector.
27:11
Speaker 2: Onto one of our favorite topics, the nuclear policy, and
27:14
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton's made it pretty clear in our Graham that
27:16
Speaker 2: he's going down the nuclear road. In an interview at
27:19
Speaker 2: the weekend the Prime Minister Anthony Albanez, he said, look,
27:22
Speaker 2: every day between now and the election, I'm going to
27:25
Speaker 2: call out Peter Dutton. He says, Dutton's got to stop
27:28
Speaker 2: hiding release his plans for the proposed sites for nuclear reactors,
27:32
Speaker 2: which is a bit of a joke when you consider
27:35
Speaker 2: that we don't yet know where all the wind turbines
27:38
Speaker 2: are going to go and where all of the solar
27:39
Speaker 2: farms are going to go. He says it's too expensive.
27:42
Speaker 2: The Siro report, he's quoted it. I think given a
27:45
Speaker 2: quick look at some of the polls that are currently out,
27:47
Speaker 2: we'll get to those numbers and his set. Graham Peter
27:50
Speaker 2: Dutton's probably going to welcome this argument and debate, won't.
27:53
Speaker 5: He Well, certainly there's been a shift in the sort
28:00
Speaker 5: of climate wars, if you like, between the major parties.
28:04
Speaker 5: In the past that's been over the existence of climate
28:08
Speaker 5: change and whether we should do anything about it and
28:10
Speaker 5: how much. Now both sides agree to net zero by
28:13
Speaker 5: twenty fifty, and Dunen has said, well, he has an
28:18
Speaker 5: alternate answer, and that's nuclear. So he will welcome the
28:22
Speaker 5: conversation because it will position the coalition in a position
28:28
Speaker 5: it hasn't been before. It's saying it's got an alternate
28:31
Speaker 5: answer to the government. And the decision that voters will
28:34
Speaker 5: have to make is whether they believe that the renewable
28:39
Speaker 5: path is on track, it's going to be possible, what
28:42
Speaker 5: it's going to cost, and what the merits are of
28:44
Speaker 5: choosing a nuclear option if they believe in that.
28:49
Speaker 2: Well, the Lowei Institute pol twenty seven percent of people
28:53
Speaker 2: said they strongly support nuclear and additional thirty four percent
28:57
Speaker 2: somewhat support it. My mass is never great, but that's
28:59
Speaker 2: a round sixty one percent, So Peter Dutton would take
29:03
Speaker 2: some strength. I would have thought out of those numbers,
29:06
Speaker 2: and I even saw it the weekend. When you break
29:08
Speaker 2: it down into demographics, Graham, some of the support surprisingly
29:12
Speaker 2: comes from younger Australians.
29:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think this is a global trend. We're
29:20
Speaker 5: seeing a lot of people who were resistant to nuclear
29:24
Speaker 5: power in the past are giving it another look, and
29:26
Speaker 5: they're doing that on the basis that it is an
29:29
Speaker 5: emissions free source of power, and so if it is
29:34
Speaker 5: an answer, young people are prepared to have a much
29:38
Speaker 5: closer look at it than perhaps their parents were. That's
29:41
Speaker 5: being reflected in the polls, and both sides of politics
29:44
Speaker 5: will be looking at those polls very closely to see
29:48
Speaker 5: how they can hook into a trend.
29:52
Speaker 2: Just finally, when you look at the timelines for getting
29:55
Speaker 2: our emissions down and getting the IMpower of solar and
30:01
Speaker 2: wind up, how far behind is the zelotry Chris Bowen
30:07
Speaker 2: on getting his making his targets, and it seems to
30:10
Speaker 2: me that we're so far behind it's not funny.
30:14
Speaker 5: Well, certainly it was never going to happen in a
30:17
Speaker 5: linear fashion, but I think concern is increasing within the
30:22
Speaker 5: industry and within the government that delivering the projects is
30:26
Speaker 5: more difficult than they would have expected or hoped. At
30:31
Speaker 5: some point in time, it becomes not possible to catch up,
30:35
Speaker 5: and I think there's a lot of serious discussions and
30:40
Speaker 5: considerations taking place right now about where we are on
30:43
Speaker 5: that pathway.
30:46
Speaker 2: Ye Graham, great to catch up with you both, Thank
30:48
Speaker 2: you very much. Now coming up after the break, Senator
30:50
Speaker 2: Bridget Mackenzie on the Victorian government's massive infrastructure cost blowouts.
30:55
Speaker 2: You won't believe some of the numbers. After the break,
30:59
Speaker 2: the panel also will join Meat to discuss some interesting
31:02
Speaker 2: commentary that's occurred on the ABC's Insiders program. Welcome back
31:12
Speaker 2: to Credit on this Monday and night see Price in
31:14
Speaker 2: the chair. It's been reported today in the Herald Sun
31:17
Speaker 2: and you're not going to believe these figures. The cost
31:20
Speaker 2: of infrastructure projects in Victoria has blown out by twelve
31:24
Speaker 2: point seven billion dollars. That's twelve thousand, seven hundred million
31:29
Speaker 2: dollars since December last year. Now that means that taxplayers
31:32
Speaker 2: in Victoria are being slugged. An extra eighty three point
31:36
Speaker 2: six million dollars a day for ballooning rail and road
31:40
Speaker 2: project budgets the Northeast Link. That's a day. By the way,
31:44
Speaker 2: the Northeast Link has been seen the biggest blowout, up
31:47
Speaker 2: from fifteen point eight billion to twenty six point one billion.
31:51
Speaker 2: Now the federal government has poured in an additional five
31:54
Speaker 2: billion dollars to jointly fund some of these projects, but
31:58
Speaker 2: the opposition infrastructure spokeswoman, Senator Bridget McKenzie for the Nationals,
32:03
Speaker 2: has slammed the funding as an attempt to quote payoff
32:06
Speaker 2: just Cina Allen's infrastructure credit card. I suspect she's right,
32:11
Speaker 2: The senator joins us now from Canberra. Good to see
32:14
Speaker 2: you again. Those figures are mind.
32:17
Speaker 6: Blowing, absolutely, Steve.
32:21
Speaker 7: And it's not just Victorian taxpayers that are going to
32:24
Speaker 7: be paying for the fact that Justinter Allen and that
32:28
Speaker 7: state labor government can't manage projects and can't manage their
32:32
Speaker 7: own budget. But indeed it's all of Australia that is
32:36
Speaker 7: actually now putting in nearly five billion dollars and ninety
32:42
Speaker 7: nine point six percent of that money, Steve, not one
32:45
Speaker 7: single extra kilometer of road, not one more pothole filled in,
32:50
Speaker 7: not one more line of track delivered as a result
32:53
Speaker 7: of that investment. But it is seriously just to cover
32:57
Speaker 7: the fact that Justintera Allen can't manage money.
33:02
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got another Victorian minister, the Federal Infrastructure Minister,
33:06
Speaker 2: Catherine King. She's come out, she's defended the funding increases.
33:10
Speaker 2: She go, oh, well, it's blowouts in the workforce shortages
33:13
Speaker 2: and supply chain issues when the projects are held to
33:18
Speaker 2: ransom by the CFMEU for a start, and all of
33:23
Speaker 2: the people working on these projects, Senator, as you know,
33:26
Speaker 2: are being paid huge loadings because the union have got
33:29
Speaker 2: the state government under under their heave of their boot.
33:34
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, Steve, You're dead right. These projects are all
33:38
Speaker 7: subject to the sweetheart deal that the Victorian Labor government
33:42
Speaker 7: has stitched up with CFM MEU.
33:45
Speaker 6: We also have the suburban rail loop.
33:47
Speaker 7: You had the State Transport Minister today.
33:50
Speaker 6: Refusing to rule out.
33:51
Speaker 7: The fact that Victorians won't be paying a tax to
33:55
Speaker 7: actually get that much derided project up and running. I
33:59
Speaker 7: mean it's subject to an Orditor General's investigation. Up here
34:04
Speaker 7: in Canberra, we're waiting for the full business case to
34:07
Speaker 7: be delivered to Infrastructure Australia, and yet there are billions
34:11
Speaker 7: and billions and billions of dollars being forked out for
34:15
Speaker 7: a suburban raw loop project that we don't know when
34:19
Speaker 7: it's going to be delivered and whether it's even value
34:22
Speaker 7: for money. So on every single measure of spending taxpayers money,
34:28
Speaker 7: this government fails time and time again, and it's being
34:31
Speaker 7: backed in by Anthony Albanesi and Catherine King.
34:37
Speaker 2: So we've got no business modeling done on the suburban
34:41
Speaker 2: rail it it's never been done, so that can't be
34:44
Speaker 2: presented to Infrastructure Australia to judge whether it ought to
34:48
Speaker 2: be funded or not. That was defended by the Premier
34:52
Speaker 2: j just senda Allen, but that now seems to be
34:54
Speaker 2: a big split in the Labor government in Victoria itself,
34:57
Speaker 2: with Deputy Premier Today and Carol saying well, I'm not sure,
35:02
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know about airport rail link maybe
35:04
Speaker 2: that might be more important than suburban railingk So they're
35:07
Speaker 2: tearing themselves apart on this stuff and it's the poor
35:10
Speaker 2: old taxpayers of the country they're going to have to
35:12
Speaker 2: pay for this thing. I mean, that's suburban rail link
35:15
Speaker 2: between Cheltenham and box Hill. I've said it before, and
35:18
Speaker 2: I know you've said it before, Senator. It's a train
35:22
Speaker 2: route from nowhere to somewhere no one wants to.
35:24
Speaker 7: Go, absolutely pricey, and we're one of the major airports
35:30
Speaker 7: in the world that doesn't have a link between our
35:33
Speaker 7: CBD and our airport. It's been on the table for years,
35:37
Speaker 7: it's been part of the master plans signed off by
35:41
Speaker 7: Catherine King here in Canberra, and yet she cannot get
35:45
Speaker 7: this state government to actually fund the project.
35:48
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, we've got this suburban rail loop.
35:51
Speaker 7: Disaster on the books, sucking in billions and billions of
35:55
Speaker 7: dollars and a real cloud over it. I just don't know.
35:59
Speaker 7: You know, being in government is all about priorities, and
36:02
Speaker 7: I want to know what's not being built because money
36:05
Speaker 7: is being fundeled into the suburban rail loop. You don't
36:08
Speaker 7: have to go very far out of Melbourne to find
36:12
Speaker 7: your car being subjected to potholes right throughout rural and
36:16
Speaker 7: regional communities and our suburbs. Someone needs to get their
36:20
Speaker 7: priorities right, because this labor government doesn't.
36:24
Speaker 2: I went to the Northeast the other weekend and I
36:26
Speaker 2: couldn't below. I nearly lost the car down a pothole.
36:30
Speaker 2: It was that deep. And look, you're a regional based senator.
36:33
Speaker 2: I mean there's a very good question today being asked about.
36:37
Speaker 2: You know, what are the taxpayers of Victoria who live
36:39
Speaker 2: in Geelong or Portland, or Mildura or Shepperdon or Wadonga,
36:44
Speaker 2: why are they plowing money into a suburban underground rail
36:48
Speaker 2: line that might or might never ever be built, that
36:51
Speaker 2: they will never use.
36:54
Speaker 6: Exactly.
36:55
Speaker 7: I mean, we all pay our taxes and we want
36:58
Speaker 7: great regional roads to get to and from you know,
37:02
Speaker 7: port our product to port safely and to travel around.
37:05
Speaker 7: And we want major cities which have efficient road networks
37:10
Speaker 7: and rail networks. But this project in particular has been
37:14
Speaker 7: derided by experts as a waste of money, and the
37:18
Speaker 7: fact that this Victorian Labor government will not release the
37:21
Speaker 7: full business case will not stump up the argument, and
37:24
Speaker 7: yet keeps pouring money in it really does beggar the
37:29
Speaker 7: question out of the budget Federally, you asked what was
37:32
Speaker 7: spent in the region.
37:33
Speaker 6: Seventeen point six.
37:35
Speaker 7: Million dollars out of over five billion dollars nearly five
37:40
Speaker 7: billion dollars. Sorry, so zero point three five percent was new.
37:45
Speaker 6: Projects out in the regions. In Victoria.
37:47
Speaker 7: So you know, over four point nine nine billion dollars
37:53
Speaker 7: going to fill just Cinta Allen's credit card greed when
37:57
Speaker 7: it comes to being unable to manage her infrastructure budget,
38:00
Speaker 7: appalling waste of money.
38:03
Speaker 2: It's before we go briefly, what did you make in
38:04
Speaker 2: the minimum wage announcement today? Three point seventy five percent.
38:09
Speaker 7: Well, we have an independent arbiter when it comes to wages,
38:12
Speaker 7: and that's the Fair Work Commission.
38:13
Speaker 6: They've made a decision.
38:14
Speaker 7: It is for the poorest in our in our country
38:19
Speaker 7: have got that wage increase. I think what it points
38:22
Speaker 7: to is just how much pressure everyday families are under
38:26
Speaker 7: right across the country, as their interest rates are for
38:29
Speaker 7: their mortgages and their rents are stubbornly staying high. And
38:33
Speaker 7: it's because federal labor has not got the cost of
38:36
Speaker 7: living issue under control, and their budget, according to all economists,
38:42
Speaker 7: hasn't done anything to help. And that's the sort of
38:44
Speaker 7: topics we traversed with doctor Stephen Kennedy, the Head of
38:48
Speaker 7: Treasury this morning in the Economics Senate Estimates.
38:53
Speaker 2: Sennam the McKenzie, it was great to catch up. Thank
38:55
Speaker 2: you you too, come up after the break time. I'm
39:00
Speaker 2: going to discuss some interesting commentary that took place yesterday.
39:03
Speaker 2: I didn't see it myself, but I looked back at
39:05
Speaker 2: it on the ABC's Insiders program, plus some shocking scenes
39:10
Speaker 2: at a pro Palestinian protest that took place over the weekend.
39:14
Speaker 2: That's the panel up next. Welcome back Steve Prisce in
39:20
Speaker 2: for Peter Credlin this week, let's bring in our panel
39:24
Speaker 2: LMP MP Keith Pitt and former Howard government minister Gary Hargraves. Keith, Gary,
39:30
Speaker 2: welcome you both. Ready to get smashed in Origin one
39:33
Speaker 2: on Wednesday night? I presume are.
39:35
Speaker 10: You get out.
39:40
Speaker 2: Courageous? That's courageous. I know it's easy when I'm at
39:46
Speaker 2: this distance. I'm a long way away from you both. Keith.
39:49
Speaker 2: Let's start with the PMS pledge to fight Peter Dutton
39:52
Speaker 2: on nuclear power every day until the next election. I
39:56
Speaker 2: mentioned when I was talking earlier to Dennis Shanahan, and
40:00
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton's probably going to welcome that when you look
40:02
Speaker 2: at the latest polling on nuclear But I tell you
40:04
Speaker 2: who's not a fan of the You'll be shocked at this.
40:07
Speaker 2: Not a fan of the idea of nuclear power. That'd
40:10
Speaker 2: be the AVC. Here was some discussion on the ABC's
40:13
Speaker 2: Insiders program yesterday, Have a Loo in your story? There
40:18
Speaker 2: was a killer line too from was it from Labor?
40:22
Speaker 2: Un named Labor?
40:22
Speaker 4: And pe about you know, wait until we get to
40:24
Speaker 4: the point where we start talking about handing out free.
40:26
Speaker 5: Iodine tablets to anyone who lives within one hundred k's
40:30
Speaker 5: we have.
40:31
Speaker 2: To oh, funny, funny, funny. What do you make of that?
40:35
Speaker 10: Keith Simpsons to the Rescue.
40:39
Speaker 11: I think Steve the three eyed fish proposal, I dined
40:43
Speaker 11: everyone within one hundred kilometers of a reactor. Well, there's
40:45
Speaker 11: a couple of holes in both of those. The first
40:47
Speaker 11: one is we're going to have nuclear submarines in Adelaide,
40:51
Speaker 11: and I think they'll go to Brisbane and Sydney and
40:52
Speaker 11: Melbourne and pretty much every other port around Australia. We
40:55
Speaker 11: had the USS Ronald Reagan and Brisbane for weeks.
40:58
Speaker 10: It's got reactors as well.
41:00
Speaker 11: But I think the Prime Minister Heed better start handing
41:01
Speaker 11: out those eye done tablets to the people of Sydney
41:04
Speaker 11: because there's been a reactor in Sydney for more than
41:06
Speaker 11: fifty years.
41:06
Speaker 10: I don't remember anyone getting on tablets. I mean, this
41:10
Speaker 10: is just farcical. Hope we get back to facts.
41:14
Speaker 2: Gary, you read the public pretty well. I mean, am
41:18
Speaker 2: I right that Peter Dutton probably would welcome an election
41:23
Speaker 2: debate every day from now into the election about nuclear
41:27
Speaker 2: when the coalition explains that it's going to be part
41:30
Speaker 2: of the mix. Yes, you're going to have you're going
41:32
Speaker 2: to have sun and wind, and you're going to have
41:34
Speaker 2: gas and then you're going to have nuclear. I mean,
41:36
Speaker 2: surely that's a sensible debate to have. And those polls
41:39
Speaker 2: are starting to show the public and moving that way. Yeah.
41:44
Speaker 1: And a lot of people in the public are very
41:46
Speaker 1: upset at their superannuation funds and their banks have made
41:49
Speaker 1: these arbitrary decisions that say we're not going to invest
41:52
Speaker 1: in coal anymore.
41:53
Speaker 2: Don't leave coal out of the mix.
41:54
Speaker 1: You see, we've got all of that stuff in the ground.
41:56
Speaker 1: We've got a third of the world's uranium in Australia,
42:00
Speaker 1: much of it in Queensland.
42:01
Speaker 2: Yes, some of it in.
42:02
Speaker 1: South Australia and Western Australia as well, but much of
42:04
Speaker 1: it is in Queensland. You know, the opportunity to actually
42:08
Speaker 1: fix up a lot of state budgets, federal budgets and
42:11
Speaker 1: indeed our economy from digging stuff out and using it here.
42:14
Speaker 1: But equally, Steve, what people want is a reliable supply
42:19
Speaker 1: of electricity at chair prices. And you know, forty years
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Speaker 1: ago Queensland had so much electricity it was finding ways
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Speaker 1: to use it, giving people those dreadful box air conditioners
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Speaker 1: to hang out of their lounge room windows just to
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Speaker 1: use up all the electricity. We've gone from having some
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Speaker 1: of the cheapest in the world and now some of
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Speaker 1: the most expensive. And you know, people in Victoria and
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Speaker 1: New South Wales may well find some brownouts over the
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Speaker 1: summer period, they say, but Queenslanders will face the same
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Speaker 1: thing too. Because we had so much electricity. We put
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Speaker 1: a big extension lead across the border and the National
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Speaker 1: Energy Grid was founded. So look, I think people want
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Speaker 1: cheap power, want reliable power. Until we get it, we're
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Speaker 1: not going to be able to have a future made
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Speaker 1: in Australia. We're not going to be able to afford
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Speaker 1: the cost of living increases that every Australian is facing,
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Speaker 1: and everything is going up all off the back of electricity.
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Speaker 10: It's as simple as that.
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Speaker 2: We've got to fix it. Keith. When the Prime Minister says,
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Speaker 2: you know, I want to have this argument with Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton because he hasn't put out a plan and hasn't
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Speaker 2: told anyone where these nuclear reactors are going to be located. Well,
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Speaker 2: that's nonsense. I mean we all know that the plan
43:27
Speaker 2: is to put them next to coal fired power stations
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Speaker 2: that are going to be discontinued. I haven't heard from
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Speaker 2: the PM or from his mate Chris Bowen. Where is
43:36
Speaker 2: every wind farm and every soular factory going to be
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Speaker 2: located in region and rural Australia. Give me that map
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Speaker 2: and then I might, I might hold give your argument
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Speaker 2: some gredance.
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Speaker 11: Oh well, I think he needs to have a good, long,
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Speaker 11: hard look in the mirror. Stay, you give himself a
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Speaker 11: couple of uppercuts and explain why we're going to have
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Speaker 11: nuclear submarines which apparently somehow different to the ones you
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Speaker 11: put on a block of concrete. But I can tell
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Speaker 11: you where the wind and solar plants are going. Everywhere
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Speaker 11: that's not Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide of Perth, anything that's.
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Speaker 10: Not a capital city.
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 11: The regions are copying it the neck here and it
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Speaker 11: is millions of hectares.
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Speaker 10: It is millions.
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Speaker 11: There's a proposal for two and a half thousand square
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Speaker 11: kilometers of solar panels in Gladston for the hydrogenal oone.
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Speaker 11: It is just ludicrous that this makes no engineering sense,
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Speaker 11: it makes no economic sense.
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Speaker 10: It is not a good decision for Australia.
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Speaker 11: It will leave us vulnerable and weak in terms of
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Speaker 11: energy security.
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Speaker 10: And I've opposed to it.
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Speaker 2: Yep, Gary I said at the top of the programmer
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Speaker 2: was talking about this local councilor in Melbourne. He's in
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Speaker 2: mary Beck Council. They fly the Palestinian flag out the
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Speaker 2: front and you know they were the first ones to
44:50
Speaker 2: have emotion condemning Israel's invasion of Gaza. The Spoke's name
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Speaker 2: is James Conlin. Now he responded to a Jewish red
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Speaker 2: who lives in his council area, who feared for her safety.
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Speaker 2: Her concerns were effectively dismissed. She was told, quote, I'm
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Speaker 2: losing patience in trying to understand how opposing a genocide
45:12
Speaker 2: is so complicated for some parts of the community. Can
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Speaker 2: you believe that response to a woman who said she
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Speaker 2: feels unsafe?
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Speaker 1: Look at nothing surprises me. I'm sorry Steve and everybody
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Speaker 1: in Victoria with some of these inner city Melbourne councils,
45:29
Speaker 1: and indeed this councilor is that it's grace. Fortunately, councils
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Speaker 1: don't set our foreign policy and Australia has to stand
45:36
Speaker 1: up for the Jewish state. For Israel. I mean, it
45:38
Speaker 1: was invaded back in early October, and we should never
45:42
Speaker 1: ever forget that that occurred. We also shouldn't forget that
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Speaker 1: Hamas this bloke seems to be wanting to support them,
45:49
Speaker 1: is not about the Palestinians. It's about terrorism. It's about
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Speaker 1: causing hurt to countries like ours. It's against Israel because
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Speaker 1: it's convenient to their cause to destroy the West. You know, Frankly,
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Speaker 1: I'm just sick to death of universities and institutions like
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Speaker 1: councils who've decided they don't like the West. They want
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Speaker 1: to see the West destroyed. They want to see us
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Speaker 1: turned into some sort of fiefdom where of course they're
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Speaker 1: in control. I mean, that's the thing about the international left.
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Speaker 1: They want plenty of victims, but they don't want to
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Speaker 1: be one themselves. They want to live in the mega mansions.
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Speaker 1: They want to look down upon all of us, and
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Speaker 1: they want all of us to come cap in hand
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Speaker 1: to them. This councilor is just one of plenty people
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Speaker 1: in very high paid positions in universities, running universities, ruining
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Speaker 1: Australia as we speak. And I hope the people of
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Speaker 1: that council vote him out because this is the sort
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Speaker 1: of splitters and the danger that we have that the
46:42
Speaker 1: international left are driving right around this country, right around America,
46:47
Speaker 1: and frankly, in our political parties, we've got the left
46:50
Speaker 1: creeping in with about twenty five or thirty percent of
46:53
Speaker 1: people trying to control the other seventy five percent pushing
46:56
Speaker 1: their way in into power positions. We've just got to
46:59
Speaker 1: fix this up. We need to rise up, but in
47:02
Speaker 1: the sort of way that most conservatives and center rights do,
47:05
Speaker 1: and that is we've just got to stand firm on
47:07
Speaker 1: our values.
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Speaker 2: This bloke doesn't.
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Speaker 1: We've got to get rid of him.
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Speaker 2: Keith. Finally, the Victorian police have slammed some of these protests,
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Speaker 2: and we seem to have a pro Palestine protest every
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Speaker 2: day in Melbourne, but the one on the weekend they
47:20
Speaker 2: dumped a bunch of gravel in the middle of the
47:22
Speaker 2: Flinders Street intersection and then we're running around with paper
47:26
Speaker 2: planes pretending to be to be bombers. I mean, I
47:29
Speaker 2: just think it's time that the police commissioners in every
47:32
Speaker 2: state in Australia laid down the law and said listen,
47:34
Speaker 2: enough's enough. We've had enough of these protests. Who want
47:37
Speaker 2: to do it, go and do it in a park somewhere,
47:38
Speaker 2: but you're not going to take over the city.
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Speaker 11: Step Yeah, absolutely right, But they should take that gravel
47:45
Speaker 11: and concrete and make themselves a deep, dark tunnel, put
47:48
Speaker 11: themselves in it for six months, give themselves some memories
47:51
Speaker 11: of over a thousand of their countrymen and women who
47:53
Speaker 11: were sexually assaulted, who were raped, who were killed murdered
47:57
Speaker 11: by Hamas terrorists, and then say okay, well now we might.
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Speaker 10: Have the full experience.
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Speaker 11: Can you imagine if this was in Australia and they
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Speaker 11: were Australian people at Australian hostages, we would shift heaven
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Speaker 11: and earth to get them back. And it is no
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Speaker 11: surprise to me once however, that that is what the
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Speaker 11: people of Israel are doing to try and get back
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Speaker 11: their country people. And I just think the people in Melbourne,
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Speaker 11: sure you are entitled to protest, but you are not
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Speaker 11: entitled to disturb what goes on for every other single Australian.
48:28
Speaker 11: They're going about their day, they're going there work. You
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Speaker 11: should have your protests and do it peacefully, but we
48:33
Speaker 11: can never forget that there are people who are still
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Speaker 11: hostages and they should be relying.
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Speaker 10: Key should be released yesterday.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more, Keith, Thank you very much.
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Speaker 2: Good on your Keith, Gary, thank you very much for that.
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Speaker 2: Now that's it for me. I'll be back tomorrow night,
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Speaker 2: coming up filling in for Andrew Bolt. James McPherson. See
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Speaker 2: you tomorrow