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043 - Getting bizarre at the bazaar w/ Danny Sun · Here's to You

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  And welcome back to another episode of Here's to You, the
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  podcast, the your favorite DIY podcast where we try to bring
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  you cool people to share their cool stories.
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  Sitting next to me, as always, is the blue haired fabulous
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  Fanister McAllister. Say hi, Fanister.
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  Hello guys, I'm excited. And sitting across from me today
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  is our very special guest, my blood cousin.
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  Straight up gang. Gang for life.
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  The one and only Danny son. Hey, guys.
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  We're so excited to have you finally.
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  Thank you for having me on. See, there's the sound.
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  I cued it. So how you guys doing today?
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  You know, we vibing as always. Yeah.
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  How are you all doing? Not too bad, it's a nice summer
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  evening. Glad to be here, sitting with
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  you on this great night. We're not telling them what day.
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  No, on the day that you listened this episode, it was so great to
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  be in your car and in your ears. It's a great day.
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  Yep. Or if you're sitting at your
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  desk at work, it's also great to be in your ears.
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  Or if you're in your kitchen doing the dishes, it's great to
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  be in your ears. Some laundry.
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  We like all holes on this podcast.
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  Yes, accurate moving on and scene.
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  No, it has been a really good day.
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  So you were saying, so you did not go and do the event an event
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  today, but you went out frolicking to other lands?
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  Yes, we did. Yeah, just out and about as
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  always. So Danny, kind of tell us a
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  little bit about yourself, like kind of like where you from
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  understand that you were maybe born and raised in Garden but
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  then moved to Wichita here pretty young.
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  Yes. So I was born in Garden City,
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  but I was raised here in Wichita, went to school in
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  Haysville, and every time I try to go anywhere, I just always
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  come back here. So here we are.
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  Oh, you've tried to move before then?
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  Shortly, yes. Where'd you go?
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  Well, right before high school graduation, I kind of graduated
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  early. So I went to Atlanta for a
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  little bit, and then I came back for graduation to walk it.
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  And then I just decided to stay because, you know, men.
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  Oh, you found love? Well, I like situation ships.
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  You got you got, you got dignitized.
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  Yes. Oh fair, been there.
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  So kind of fast forwarding from the dignitization, you also then
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  start dummy apparel. Yes, yes.
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  So Dummy Apparel is going to be 6 years old 6 September. 2019
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  then. Yes, 2019 after mine and Dusty's
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  cousin passed away, I had stopped working as a barista.
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  That's what I did before dummy. And I worked at Starbucks and I
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  was kind of just in a period I was trying to like, I don't
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  really know what I was doing. And I was like, well, I've
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  always like loved clothes and I've always like had a different
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  style and stuff. So I decided to just try my hand
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  out with manufacturing clothes and stuff.
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  And so the way I started it was I would have designs that I
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  thought of myself or hired local artists to do, and then I would
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  get them made on shirts that were cut in stone, specifically
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  with the designs on them. And so that's what I did up
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  until Kovid happened because you know, Kovid just doing
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  everything for everyone in of course different.
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  Ways. Yeah, yeah.
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  After, during COVID, they, the factory that I was working with
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  kind of shut down and I, it seems like they never recovered
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  because I had kind of lost contact with them.
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  So I was like, well, if I really want to do this, let me kind of
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  figure out how to do it myself. So then I had to did the old
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  thing where everyone buys a vinyl cutter and then tries that
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  out. And I was like, well, I don't
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  really like the way this looks because a lot of people will
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  just take heat transfer vinyl and then put those on shirts.
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  That was a big trend, but I was like, I don't like the quality
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  of this. Then I decided that I was going
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  to try screen printing and so I used the vinyl cutter to make my
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  screen printing stencils basically.
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  So I was still DIY ING my shirts, but in a different way.
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  And so that's kind of what catapulted me and I was able to
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  like ramp up production from then.
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  And that's where I was just really getting our name out
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  there. Yeah, yeah.
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  So that's how Dummy kind of started a while ago.
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  Yeah. Dang.
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  OK, that's so you guys have came a long way.
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  Is it still just you? Is there still more people?
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  So it's just me, but I have a team of people we I have about
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  including my little sister, about 5 or 6 employees.
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  And then I have people that are like, I guess in the realm, but
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  they're not actual employees, but they'll come help out like
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  for ICT bazaars, that one we started in 2022 and we can dive
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  a little deeper into that, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I also have like some bartenders, the main DJ we use
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  is Dusty, but we also have other people in the roster just for
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  different aspects of everything. So we have a lot of people that
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  play a part in dummy apparel and ICT bazaars.
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  So I cannot really say that it's just me, but yeah, I guess I run
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  that shit. Well, you do you do be running
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  shit. Yes, somehow, but we get it
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  done. What?
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  How did you come up with the name Dummy?
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  So it has actually a couple few like a few different meanings.
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  So dummy is another name for like a mannequin.
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  And so like people that are like wearing our merch, walking
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  around, they're walking mannequins.
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  That's funny. They're.
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  Dummies and without kind of having a negative connotation on
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  it cuz I wanna go out to people wearing my clothes and be like
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  hey dummy. Yeah, of course.
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  So there's that. But also, whenever I first
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  started Dummy apparel again, it was really over saturated with
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  people trying to start clothing brands and making T-shirts and
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  stuff. So a lot of people that I
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  brought the idea up to or like, that's kind of dumb.
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  That's stupid. Like there's so many people
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  already doing that and it you just, you know, there wasn't
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  really exactly. And so it was kind of an odd
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  scared. Money don't make no money.
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  Exactly, exactly. I gotta pay to play so I forgot
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  what I was saying. Sorry, sorry.
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  You're a person of action that's.
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  What you're saying? Absolutely.
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  But yeah, so it was kind of an ode to that saying like, you're
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  the dummy, not me. So it's, you know, they'll see
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  the word dummy everyone and just be reminded about how much of A
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  hater they have been. I love the level of Hedy there.
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  It's the commitment for me. It's the commitment for sure.
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  Yeah. So you were saying that you also
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  partner with other artists to come up with the designs, but
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  you also come up with the designs then?
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  Yes. So there's a mix.
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  So it's all my ideas. How OK, when I first started,
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  what I, the idea I was doing was buying the people's art, or if I
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  had an idea, commissioning people to make that art.
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  So it was a mix of that. But then I started leaning into
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  my own artwork, and if it's something that I can't execute,
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  I'll have a team of artists depending on which.
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  Sorry, that was my birth control.
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  Girl. No, my I have a alarm for my
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  braces to put my rubber bands in.
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  So that's what that was. I apologize.
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  No, it's OK, but it's. OK, take the birth control.
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  We don't. Want our babies exactly not
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  around here. Yeah, so.
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  Fetus Deletus. I love that.
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  And so yeah, if it's something that I can't make happen myself,
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  I will hire, depending on which style of art it is, a certain
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  artist and they will make it and I will always credit them and
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  stuff. So it depends on the line that
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  I'm dropping or what I'm deciding to drop because I've
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  been kind of leaning more into like themes with seasons because
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  I was really against making seasonal merch.
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  But my manager, Katrina, she really kind of pushed me to do
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  that 2 Christmas ago. We made some Christmas merch,
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  which I was like, no, I was like, if you want us to do
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  Christmas merch, you have to do it all.
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  And she really did. Yeah.
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  And so I was like, fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you, you had
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  another person of action. Yes, and she really made it
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  happen. So I kind of had to run with it
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  and we sold like all of it so fast.
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  And so I was like. OK, I guess we're gonna keep
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  this up. Thank you, but whatever.
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  Like I don't love this but whatever.
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  Yeah, yeah, 'cause I just hate the anxiety of am I gonna get
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  stuck with this merch? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Because there's just some things I'll just throw in the back of
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  the closet and be like, I don't want to see that anymore.
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  Like one of our most popular designs, it is called Grow as
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  You Go and it has like mushrooms on it.
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  And it's just a simple one color screen print.
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  Yeah. And I sold that shirt for three
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  years. Yeah.
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  And everyone, every time I would bring it out, it would sell out
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  so fast. And everyone keep asking for it.
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  And I got tired of it. So I said no more no.
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  More. No more, he said.
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  Fuck you hoes. Exactly, I said no.
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  That's enough dummies. Yes, I was so over it.
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  Like there's just, I get sick of some of the shirts.
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  So say a little bit more about that.
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  Like I think that goes a little into the branding, right?
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  Because like of what you're trying to do, it sounds like you
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  still want to kind of try to keep it exclusive.
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  Absolutely so exclusive, but not too exclusive, you know, like we
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  don't get keep over here, but I, there's only so many I want to
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  make because I'll get sick of it and don't ask me for that number
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  because it's just when I feel like it.
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  I just do as I feel. I don't have any like actual
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  rules. Yeah, I love that.
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  How many themes have you put out so far in seasons?
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  I guess because it sounds like you've done a lot.
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  Girl, that number, I couldn't even fucking tell you got you.
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  Am I allowed to cut some here? Yeah.
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  I don't even really know. But I know off the top of my
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  head. We've done last year a Halloween
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  collection. We did a different, a different
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  Christmas one. I know we did a Valentine's one,
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  which is really cute. That one sold so fast because I
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  did like a grand reopening in my store and I brought it out with
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  that. Yeah.
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  And that that day that way grand like reopened.
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  It was wild. We got ran through.
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  OK, nice. But I also, I didn't
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  specifically like mark it and tailor it to it.
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  It just kind of happened. But like around like Earth Day
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  last year, I kind of dropped a bunch of different tie dyes and
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  are earthy designs. I guess a lot of our stuff is
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  earthy design. So yeah, yeah.
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  It just kind of happened. So yeah, it's just kind of like
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  what I feel like. Yeah.
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  And what. Yeah, I know that's a lot of my
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  answers. It's just what?
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  I want and I love it, as you should.
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  It sounds like you really know who you are and you want to stay
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  authentic to that. Absolutely.
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  Because I feel like it's its own like, person really like Dummy
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  and the branding and like, you know, my team of people, they
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  really understand like the aesthetic of it and like the
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  separation of us and it, Yeah. And be able to tailor things to
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  it, but also like staying authentic to what the brand is,
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  but also expanding to kind of meet trends and stuff.
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  So like, bridging the gap between the two is what we're
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  really good at. I love that.
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  How do you how are you balancing like because you mentioned that
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  like you don't want to deal with the anxiety of like having so
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  much supply. So like how how do you try to
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  find that balance? Like it sounds like you are good
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  at finding out like when the right trend moment is happening
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  and then also when like how you're feeling in the moment to
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  and then like it collides well. But how are there moments where
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  maybe you're struggling to balance out or what are you
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  doing? Constant.
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  I'm going to be so real. It's a constant battle.
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  I either have too much or too little all the time or like I'm
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  really bad at restocking. So like I will be sold out of a
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  certain design for the longest, but then like I'll bring it back
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  and then everyone's already over it.
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  So like it's just, I guess it's a constant battle of knowing
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  what people want as well as keeping up with it and not doing
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  too much, but not doing too little.
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  So I think that's one in general, that's one struggle
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  that I go through as a business owner is inventory, whether it's
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  keeping track of it or knowing what to have.
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  Yeah, so and I kind of feel like that's a thing with everybody
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  that owns a business because, you know, otherwise we wouldn't
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  have clearance sales and stuff. True.
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  But it's just something that always gives me anxiety.
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  I hate it. Yeah, Yeah.
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  Well, you have a storefront over at Revolution, but and then you
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  guys do vendor stand ups as well.
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  Do you guys also sell online and.
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  Yes. So we started out doing like
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  vendor events, how I'm really good at like deadlines and
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  stressing myself out of course, so when I'll.
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  Perform well and during anxiety. Right.
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  And so whenever I first started Dummy, I signed up for
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  Openstreet's ICT before even like that, the name Dummy didn't
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  even exist yet. Like I just was like, oh, this
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  is my first event, so this is my deadline to have everything, you
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  know, ready. Yeah, yeah.
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  And so that was my very first event.
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  And then I believe COVID happened like literally right
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  after that. And because I was like, oh, this
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  is a cool event, but I need to like make sure I'm set up right
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  before I do another one. And then by then that's when we
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  kind of started shutting down. And so I did a few during COVID,
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  like the few pop ups that happened.
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  But so, yeah, we started with doing events and then we've
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  always been online, but I don't really put a big focus on it.
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  But we also have our storefront that we opened in November of
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  2023. We had that storefront for like
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  a year and a few months. And then this January we we
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  remodeled the space next door. OK.
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  And then we moved next door and did the grand reopening that was
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  talking about for Valentine's Day.
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  Yeah, on February 1st or 3rd. OK, nice.
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  Yep. So you expanded.
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  Yes, that's exciting. Well, it's the same size, OK,
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  but I just wanted to renovate because so whenever we first
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  start like open the store dummy, I got into this local mentorship
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  called the garages. I'm not sure if you guys are
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  familiar with that. Yeah, that's why I couldn't
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  think of the name of it when I was trying to explain it to her,
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  but I figured it would come up. Yes, yes.
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  So he probably told you a little bit about it.
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  It's like a mentorship that includes like where they kind of
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  go specializes turning an idea into a brick and mortar.
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  But I already had that idea. So it's kind of already
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  accelerated. I just didn't have the brick and
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  mortar. I was actually planning on
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  opening a brick and mortar in the middle of 2024, but it got
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  accelerated because again, Katrina, she was like, why don't
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  we just apply for this? Just try it out.
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  And so I applied for it and then they wanted to interview me and
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  they love me and I, they took it back to the board and they
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  accepted me to it. And so they presented me with
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  this crazy challenge that I was also crazy for saying yes to.
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  But they're like, we want to offer you a space, but we want
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  you to open for the holiday season, which basically for the
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  day that I got my keys, it was 2 weeks and two days to open.
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  Yeah. And we did it.
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  And I literally that you. Didn't sleep.
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  No, I didn't sleep. I literally was up there like
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  every night. Yeah, the day I got the key, I
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  went inside the space and I sat down.
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  I drew out the plan on Procreate.
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  Yeah. And then I just figured, like I
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  literally mapped out everything, what I was going to buy and how
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  I was going to buy fund everything and all that.
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  And so just got to work. And then also.
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  A person of action. Right to see it and then a.
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  Queen, A king Which? What do you prefer, a queen or
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  king? Either you know.
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  Whatever, whatever you, whatever you like to hear more.
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  Right, right. I like both.
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  OK, OK. But not I don't like both.
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  OK, fair. I get.
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  I get it. Yeah, And then I don't know how
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  we pulled it off. We had like the vice mayor
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  there, we did a whole grand opening with the ribbon cutting.
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  Dusty was the DJ for it. My partner, he came and catered
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  the entire thing with food. It was crazy.
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  Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, it was.
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  It was a wild time. And.
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  What was your energy drink of choice during that?
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  Seven brew I love I love 7 brew. I get so many different energy
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  drinks from them, but my my main thing from them would be a fruit
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  roll up OK and I like to. That sounds like really sweet
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  though. Yeah, I'm a sweets girl.
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  OK, OK. So they do have stuff you can do
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  like less sweet or like sugar free or if you're boring.
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  But but yeah, I like the fruit roll up with like Peach or
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  sometimes like blue Raspberry. I'm a blue Raspberry girly.
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  But some people don't like it because they say it tastes like,
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  you know, cough medicine. But.
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  I can see that. But also, these are the
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  questions that I'm like, Dusty, you were supposed to ask him
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  what he likes to drink. I mean I feel like that's hard
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  cuz like I see you get like different drinks all the time.
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  Yeah, I'm like I make different. Places.
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  I do. I it sounds it sounds like you
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  would like like some like a Jolly Rancher in your water.
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  Yeah. Like that's what it sounds like.
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  That's the type of that's the type of energy I'm on.
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  Yeah, fair. And I love Arnold Palmer's.
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  That's my big thing, too. When I, when I first started
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  going to Seven Brew, I actually, the first time I went there,
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  actually fucking hated it. Yeah.
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  It's like I'm never coming here again.
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  And it was actually their grand opening.
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  Yeah. Like I didn't even realize.
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  What did? What did they do to you?
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  Well, I got a hot cocoa and it tasted like hot water and but it
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  was their I didn't realize it was their grand opening.
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  And like I thought they were playing a joke on me because
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  like, I guess that day it was like everything was free.
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  Oh, OK. And so me and my friend went
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  like we were passing by. We're like, oh, let's just go.
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  And so we went in and we went through the drive through and
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  then she like never told us a total.
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  And then when we try to get a we got the drink.
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  I was like, how much is it? And they're like, no charge.
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  And I was just so confused. But then she was like, oh, it's
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  the grand opening. I was like, OK.
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  I didn't know that the grand opening was free stuff.
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  Yeah. What the fuck?
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  Where was I at? Right.
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  But it was the first one in Wichita at the time.
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  OK, OK. And oh, the very first one.
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  So I. Didn't go there for a while, but
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  then now I am like addicted and I go there like I literally go
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  there every day. Yeah.
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  Like I got to be at work at like 6:00 in the morning, but I
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  literally leave my house to be there right when 7 brew opens at
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  5:30 so I can get my energy drink before I go to my shift.
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  And I work all the way in Mulvane.
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  So I'm like, OK, I calculated it every day.
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  So I had to leave my house at 5:25 AM to get there at 5:30.
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  And then I have just enough time to get my drink and to get to
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  Mulvane to work exactly on time. Damn, it's perfect.
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  You really are a queen and you are a person of action.
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  I am. I love people like that because
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  that's like, I'll be doing that. I'll be like, OK, how long does
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  it take me to do this? And then what time do I have to
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  be there by? And then how much can I get in
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  front of this to get to be able to do that?
• 20:26
  I'm that way too. Yes, I I'm the type of person
• 20:29
  that if I want something, I'm a go get.
• 20:31
  I'm not going to sit there and wait around because sex, yeah,
• 20:33
  I'm impatient in that sense. Like I want it right now and the
• 20:36
  only way to get it is to get up. But like, yeah, I mean, I, I
• 20:42
  could see where maybe patience plays a role, but also like, I
• 20:46
  think it's not just patience, it's the fact that like, like
• 20:50
  you just said, like, I want it, I can get it.
• 20:52
  Absolutely. Right.
• 20:53
  Yeah, it's not that like that. Like you're just like, I know I
• 20:58
  can do it, so I'm going to do it.
• 21:00
  Like I don't see a reason why I'm not going to, or like I see
• 21:03
  maybe issues that could make it hard for me to do it, but I'm
• 21:07
  going to do it anyways. Right.
• 21:08
  I'm the type of person like I'll.
• 21:09
  We'll cross that bridge when we get there, babes.
• 21:11
  Yeah. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 21:16
  Oh shit, I was going to ask you something and I totally forgot
• 21:19
  it was about this. But so we kind of started to
• 21:23
  trickle into this a little bit, but we started to talk about
• 21:26
  ICTICT bazaars. So how did that bazaar?
• 21:31
  Damn it, bazaars. Say it again.
• 21:36
  Remind me of Brazzers. Of Brazzers?
• 21:40
  ICT Brazzers. Who's that?
• 21:43
  A porn website. I don't know what Brazzers is,
• 21:45
  No. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 21:46
  Probably because we're men. Yeah.
• 21:51
  Tell me more, is this still going on?
• 21:55
  Go to brazzers.com and you tell us the bus.
• 21:57
  So it's still, it's still online and still active.
• 22:01
  Yeah, I'm, I'm pretty sure they are, yeah.
• 22:03
  Is it, is it like a, is there like a certain niche market for
• 22:07
  it? They're they're a big company
• 22:08
  that covered any niche you wanted.
• 22:11
  OK, OK, listen, I don't watch porn as you can tell.
• 22:18
  Is so would you just say it's like pornhub?
• 22:21
  No, they're, I mean, yeah, like they're.
• 22:23
  Why does it? Why is it different?
• 22:25
  Why? Wouldn't they're on there?
• 22:26
  They're like an actual company that like shot stuff.
• 22:29
  They're like a film company. Yeah, also, so browsers is on
• 22:33
  Pornhub, yes. OK.
• 22:34
  Yes, OK. OK.
• 22:38
  So, but if they're the production company, but then you
• 22:41
  have, you know, Pornhub. It's just the website that
• 22:45
  aggregates stuff from the different companies.
• 22:47
  But right now the other one that you or like, the one that it
• 22:50
  sounded like I just said, but it sounds like you guys were saying
• 22:53
  that was a website too. Yeah, they have their own
• 22:55
  website. Yeah.
• 22:58
  Oh, OK. Yeah, maybe you can go to their
• 23:00
  website and hire them. No, I got hired before this so I
• 23:07
  cannot pronounce anything. I'm sorry.
• 23:15
  No worries, people say the name wrong all the time I'm used.
• 23:18
  To it. Oh, OK.
• 23:19
  My God. Bazzers.
• 23:22
  Bazzers like bastards. But we're the ones that chose
• 23:25
  the that, you know, Yeah, off the wall name.
• 23:29
  I like it. I like it.
• 23:30
  Bizarre is is it's an old word that doesn't get used very much
• 23:36
  anymore. Well, it's different from
• 23:37
  bizarre, but you're pronouncing it like bizarre.
• 23:40
  Right now. But yeah, like instead of
• 23:42
  bizarre, it's Bazaar. Right.
• 23:44
  But there's like just a subtle difference that I heard.
• 23:47
  I want to look it up then, because you're saying it's an
• 23:49
  old word. Yeah, so I can tell you what it
• 23:51
  means. OK, tell me what it means.
• 23:52
  So bazaars means a row of shops, but with the word that what the
• 23:59
  term was used for was mostly like in like Asian and like
• 24:05
  Arabic like areas and me and Anita, you know, both of our
• 24:11
  cultures. Are.
• 24:13
  In those realms. So we're like, that's so perfect
• 24:16
  because, you know, it's the ICT version of a bizarre.
• 24:21
  And we wanted a different name that kind of like that.
• 24:24
  That name sticks. Yeah, it does.
• 24:26
  And so when people hear, they're like, huh, what is that?
• 24:29
  And you know, if you search it up, you'll see like exactly what
• 24:31
  it means. It's like true and true to.
• 24:33
  What you guys are doing? Yeah.
• 24:34
  And like what we started with. And so, yeah, that's pretty
• 24:37
  cool. That's a hey, that's smart.
• 24:41
  Yeah, I like. So you OK?
• 24:44
  Yeah. What made you decide to start
• 24:49
  one? Like what made you decide that
• 24:51
  ICT is a perfect place for vendor shops and like OK we need
• 24:55
  to start this up or? Yeah.
• 24:57
  So again, with when dummy started, 'cause we started I
• 25:01
  would say three years before, we started, three years before.
• 25:05
  So I was doing any and every market here in town, like I was
• 25:10
  infiltrating the market with dummy.
• 25:13
  Like I'm here and I'm staying and you're wearing it.
• 25:18
  Yep, and that's exactly what happened.
• 25:21
  But so I was doing all these events and also my friend Anita,
• 25:28
  she owns Hot and Bothered, which she is actually carried in dummy
• 25:32
  apparel now, but she had her own where she did upcycled and
• 25:37
  vintage vines and she. So we both would be at all these
• 25:41
  markets together and not just us, it's just just like a
• 25:45
  collective of local artists that we were all, we would just all
• 25:47
  see each other. So we're just kind of like a
• 25:49
  cool little vendor group. Like I would say like kind of
• 25:52
  like the Ogs in a way, because there's so many new vendors now.
• 25:55
  Yeah, it's sickening. Not sickening.
• 25:56
  No, not in a bad way. Not in a bad way.
• 25:58
  I support all the the vendors. Like, yeah, you didn't hear
• 26:01
  that. Just put some respect on our
• 26:05
  name. OK.
• 26:06
  But yeah, so we literally saw that all these events that we
• 26:10
  were being a part of, all the organizers were like older
• 26:13
  people and the older people only knew how to brought how to bring
• 26:17
  their type of crowd in, likewise of older people and like.
• 26:21
  And you, that was not even like who you are.
• 26:23
  Right. And like, wow, they are the
• 26:25
  people that have, you know, with the fatter wallets and the ones
• 26:28
  that will spend. Maybe they weren't the target
• 26:31
  for maybe the type of brand that you would.
• 26:33
  Exactly, And all of us younger artists, like they they were
• 26:36
  more catered to the people that I don't really know what words
• 26:41
  to say there, but like cater to their type of stuff.
• 26:43
  But yeah, that definitely we're me and her just kept every time
• 26:47
  we would see each other, events went man, we need to do our own.
• 26:49
  We need to do our own. Yeah, there's missing something.
• 26:51
  So then we've decided to finally do one together.
• 26:56
  We teamed up with our very first one was we teamed up with Odd
• 27:00
  Fellow Hall and it was called the Boozy Love Bazaar and you DJ
• 27:05
  it correct. Yeah, it was pretty fun.
• 27:07
  Yes, it was crazy. Yeah, it was a crazy time.
• 27:11
  And like, I was so shook because multiple we had, I believe, I
• 27:15
  don't remember the exact number, but I know we had at least 14
• 27:17
  vendors, which it was full because the Odd Fellow was only
• 27:20
  so big. Yeah.
• 27:21
  And we were like, we curated those vendors so well because we
• 27:24
  had a few of our artists that made over $1000 in sales.
• 27:28
  Oh, wow. Yeah.
• 27:29
  I was so shook and it made me literally feel on top of the
• 27:33
  world knowing that these people were like made that much money.
• 27:37
  And I was like, it was like a high that I forever will chase
• 27:40
  now. Yeah.
• 27:41
  Oh yeah. And we cost.
• 27:43
  The more it happens, the more I chase that high because I just
• 27:46
  feel so good. It's like it feels like I'm
• 27:48
  doing something for the community, you know?
• 27:50
  It doesn't just feel like it I am doing.
• 27:51
  Something you are doing something because it's not just
• 27:54
  you winning, it's like all those vendors.
• 27:56
  Absolutely. And my biggest thing is making
• 27:59
  sure they make money. And also another thing that
• 28:02
  we've noticed is a lot of people will do events and have vendors
• 28:06
  as a side thing. Just a lot of them will be like
• 28:09
  a ploy for them to make money and then not really care about
• 28:12
  the vendors or they won't, you know, talk about the vendors.
• 28:15
  There's been so many events where I just felt so sidelined
• 28:17
  as a vendor. I'm like, I'm just here for them
• 28:19
  to make a money off of my back as in like a vendor fee and so
• 28:23
  then. Gotcha.
• 28:24
  It wasn't, it wasn't very thoughtful.
• 28:26
  It was just like them just trying to say like we are for
• 28:28
  the community and they're showing that by bringing in
• 28:30
  vendors, but they didn't actually do anything for.
• 28:32
  It. Yeah.
• 28:33
  And they're just profiting off of us because, yeah, we pay a
• 28:36
  vendor fee to be there. Of course, yeah.
• 28:37
  And they don't really like there are people that will shop, you
• 28:40
  know, And that's the whole reason why you're there.
• 28:42
  And so we promised and we made a pact that everything that we do
• 28:47
  will be vendor based and then everything else is around it.
• 28:50
  That's awesome. And so that's how we kind of do
• 28:54
  all of our events and stuff. Yeah.
• 28:56
  And another big thing is like, I feel like the more opportunities
• 29:01
  that we can make for artists to not work for corporation and to
• 29:05
  make the money, like maybe of doing our events, they can't.
• 29:09
  Like, it won't replace their full time job, you know, But,
• 29:12
  you know, maybe come to our event, they'll be able to pay
• 29:14
  their light bill. And it won't be like it'll be
• 29:16
  from selling their handmade stuff rather than going and
• 29:19
  clocking in and being miserable after work.
• 29:21
  It's like one last day they had to do that.
• 29:23
  And they will actually be in the community making money and
• 29:25
  having fun. Yeah.
• 29:27
  And so like, things like that is just what really keeps it going
• 29:31
  for me. Yeah.
• 29:32
  On the vendor side of things, because we've expanded so much
• 29:34
  since just doing vendor events. Yeah, because now at your
• 29:37
  events, you're doing more than just that.
• 29:39
  Like kind of like talk about that a bit more too.
• 29:41
  Yes. So we started out with doing
• 29:43
  just vendor events and then we moved into a a craft studio.
• 29:51
  So now we do craft parties. Most of them are ticketed.
• 29:54
  Some of them are you know come and go, but we do ticketed craft
• 29:57
  parties. We also do like a mobile bar
• 30:00
  that we incorporate into all of our events and sometimes our
• 30:03
  craft parties. And we also just do other
• 30:07
  events. Now we've kind of been diving
• 30:09
  into like watch parties, yeah, out in the courtyard of
• 30:12
  Revolution where our shop is. And yeah, so we just do a lot of
• 30:17
  different things. And going back to like the craft
• 30:19
  parties we've started. This is another way of working
• 30:22
  with artists with. So we started with making
• 30:26
  opportunities with making a shoppable experience for patrons
• 30:30
  to come in and support these artists.
• 30:32
  Now we've diving into more curated things with ticketed
• 30:37
  events. So we'll hire like let's say I
• 30:40
  have in like next week, I have this wood burning workshop that
• 30:47
  I'm working with this dude that I went to high school with
• 30:52
  Alistair. They own Chillis creations and
• 30:55
  so they know how to do wood burning.
• 30:57
  And I've noticed in other big cities they have like wood
• 31:02
  burning workshops and stuff. And also that's really like I've
• 31:05
  noticed they cater it to more like older people.
• 31:08
  So it's like more like southern and rustic designs and stuff.
• 31:11
  But I got kind of, I got Alistair to do what Alistair
• 31:15
  does is like groovy stuff. And so it's like a mushroom and
• 31:18
  a lava lamp. And we're gonna like wood, burn
• 31:20
  that into this slab of wood. And so we work with artists so
• 31:26
  they can come teach, teach their craft and, like, it's an
• 31:31
  experience for them and they get to make money doing it.
• 31:33
  So it's a little side thing for them.
• 31:35
  Yeah. And then they'll make way more
• 31:38
  doing that just for like, in the classes are like 90 minutes.
• 31:41
  So for an hour and a half, they'll make more than if they
• 31:44
  were to go, you know, clock in real quick because, you know, no
• 31:48
  one wants to pay a good wage these days.
• 31:49
  That's. That's true.
• 31:51
  That's true. Does he has a new soundboard and
• 32:00
  I love it. Now keep it up.
• 32:02
  I just think it's so cool. It's.
• 32:04
  Not new, it's just, it's just like I've been doing a lot of
• 32:07
  editing on it and so yeah, I got a lot of new buttons I guess.
• 32:11
  I like them. That thing you were saying
• 32:15
  earlier that you guys are also now doing watch parties, and
• 32:17
  then you were like, yeah, I didn't watch that show, I just
• 32:19
  hosted it. Yes, like for Love Island, Oh my
• 32:22
  gosh, so many people literally was like, you need to do a watch
• 32:26
  party, you need to do a watch party.
• 32:27
  And I was like, OK, I'll think about it.
• 32:29
  And then I saw Emerson Bacon's post theirs.
• 32:32
  Yeah, and then so many people. Yes.
• 32:34
  And so many people were commenting on it.
• 32:35
  And then people were like, no, you really have to do it.
• 32:37
  And I was like, Oh my God, OK. And so I, I was messaging my
• 32:43
  friend Bree Tomlin and she blessed her soul.
• 32:47
  She helped me set everything up because she's a Love Island
• 32:50
  girl. So I was messaging her.
• 32:51
  I was like, yeah, wait, what? Do we even watch it on?
• 32:53
  When does it come out? And I was so shocked because she
• 32:54
  was like, it's every day except for Wednesdays.
• 32:56
  I was like a new episode. Wait.
• 32:58
  Every day. Every.
• 32:59
  OK, so listen, I didn't. I don't know this, I don't.
• 33:01
  Yeah, I watched it, but I was catching up.
• 33:04
  I didn't know that every day except for Wednesdays, they were
• 33:07
  really singing. Yeah, it's crazy.
• 33:09
  It was like a novella like like Mexican.
• 33:12
  Well, most Latin novellas, they're releasing episodes every
• 33:14
  single day too. So you want to be on it.
• 33:16
  You want to make sure you're. Watching it like the days of our
• 33:19
  lives. I didn't know that they did it
• 33:21
  that way. They do any episode every day
• 33:24
  minus like, you know, some holidays or whatever.
• 33:27
  OK. Yeah, and.
• 33:29
  So you were playing catch up too?
• 33:31
  No, I wasn't paying attention to be real.
• 33:35
  Do you watch any of the like the fake love shows where the
• 33:41
  reality TV? I watch some reality TV.
• 33:44
  I'm a Bravo girly. Like I'll watch the Real
• 33:46
  Housewives. That's my type of shit, like The
• 33:48
  Real Housewives of Atlanta. Yeah.
• 33:50
  That's my tea. And right now more dramatic,
• 33:54
  yes. And also, I'm watching like Next
• 33:56
  Gen. NYC, which has some of the
• 33:59
  housewife kids on it, and they're like in New York City
• 34:02
  trying to, you know, turn it up, yeah, turn it up, make a name
• 34:05
  for themselves and stuff and survive.
• 34:08
  And so, yeah, that's what I watch in my free time, which is
• 34:11
  barely any, but yeah, I can. Imagine that you barely have
• 34:16
  any. Yeah.
• 34:18
  And yeah, so I just started doing watch parties and the
• 34:22
  first one went really well and so we kept doing them.
• 34:24
  We did 3 so far for Love Island. We did.
• 34:28
  What's over now? Yeah.
• 34:29
  And then someone suggested we do the reunion.
• 34:32
  So you should. Yeah, whenever we figured that.
• 34:35
  Whenever that is going on, I will, you know, have that.
• 34:39
  Yeah, pop in because it look like you got a pretty good turn
• 34:42
  out at those. Yeah.
• 34:43
  And so we're also gonna do like, ROM coms.
• 34:47
  We're gonna like, we're planning on watching like, white chicks
• 34:50
  and, you know, the hot chick. Yeah, and also like Halloween
• 34:54
  stuff when it comes that time. Well, like Freddy versus Jason.
• 34:58
  That's a good idea I didn't even think of.
• 35:00
  That's what I'm thinking about. Yeah.
• 35:01
  I'm thinking like I want to watch like one of those Thrasher
• 35:04
  movies. Yeah.
• 35:05
  Yeah, exactly. Like I want or like Texas
• 35:09
  Chainsaw Massacre. Have you seen the newest one?
• 35:11
  Have you guys seen the newest one?
• 35:12
  No, it came out I think 2020 actually, or it it came out not
• 35:18
  too long ago. I don't know.
• 35:20
  Sometimes 2020 feels like it's five years ago, but then it also
• 35:23
  feels like yesterday sometimes, you know, but it was so stupid
• 35:27
  like it like had in a Tesla. So you know how like in the
• 35:31
  first Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the car breaks down.
• 35:34
  What's a Tesla that was not charged?
• 35:37
  And so that's how they get stranded because they can't find
• 35:41
  a charger. And then like there's things
• 35:46
  that involve like a phone and like, it's just very, is it Gen.
• 35:51
  Z? It's Gen.
• 35:52
  Z, right? Now right it's.
• 35:54
  Very Gen. Z heavy, but it's not like not
• 35:56
  in a good way. Or like, have you guys seen
• 35:58
  Megan too? I haven't seen that one.
• 36:01
  I've seen the first one. The the sorry I'm referring to
• 36:03
  the first one. I thought it was also trash.
• 36:06
  I felt like it was very like Gen.
• 36:08
  Z ish too. Like it was just like too much.
• 36:11
  It was like it was about the girl that's the robot.
• 36:14
  And so essentially she's like, she's a helping robot for the
• 36:19
  friend. I can't remember, like a best
• 36:21
  friend, I don't know, turns evil, but she also like starts
• 36:24
  to do TikTok dances. I don't know where like, you
• 36:27
  know what I mean? Like that's weird.
• 36:28
  Like why are we bringing that in here?
• 36:30
  I don't know. Like some like if we're talking
• 36:33
  about, I'm interested to see what scary movie like what
• 36:35
  they're going to do because you know how they're about to come
• 36:37
  up with or I don't remember when it's released, but it's coming
• 36:41
  up pretty soon. So I'm curious what they're
• 36:43
  going to do, but like if they lean in too heavy on it, like
• 36:46
  I'm just going to probably be turned.
• 36:48
  Off by it, right? It's.
• 36:49
  A killer robot. I don't know, it was just like
• 36:52
  they leaned in too heavy to the whole like current stuff.
• 36:56
  Maybe it's because I'm not into it as much, but.
• 36:59
  I feel that. I feel like I'm to that age and
• 37:01
  I'm just like, Oh my God, I can't understand half of the
• 37:04
  shit that these people are doing.
• 37:05
  Yeah, like sometimes people will speak to me in slang and I'm
• 37:08
  like, can you please stop? Can't you just tell me?
• 37:14
  I've no idea what that means, but yeah, no, sorry.
• 37:22
  I know we went on a tangent, but back to Halloween.
• 37:27
  Yeah, you should do some like Friday the 13 Movies.
• 37:30
  I definitely think that would be great.
• 37:32
  I just have to kind of figure out the logistics of showing,
• 37:35
  you know, people dying on a big screen and kids.
• 37:39
  Oh, cuz kids. Get invited to this.
• 37:41
  Yes, but. I guess you could do the Addams
• 37:44
  Family but it just sounds so PG. No, but we could do like, OK, so
• 37:47
  Revolutions closed on Sundays. No one's there.
• 37:51
  Yeah. So like, we could, like, kind of
• 37:54
  check at the gate, you know, and be like, turn away kids and be
• 37:58
  like, hey, this is a rated R movie.
• 38:00
  Bring your kid in here if you want.
• 38:01
  So kind of we can do something like that maybe, I don't know.
• 38:04
  Yeah, that just. Sounds fun.
• 38:06
  It's kind of. Like a like a disclaimer, Yeah.
• 38:09
  Yeah, don't sue me. Like maybe this movie is rated
• 38:12
  R. Yeah, whatever, Whatever the
• 38:15
  movie theater does, you do that like where they did.
• 38:18
  Like, you know, they have to be old enough to watch this movie.
• 38:20
  And like, if that's on your choice, you're not checking
• 38:22
  that. That's for them to figure.
• 38:23
  Out do. You think that Bell sounded like
• 38:25
  the first one? Did it not?
• 38:27
  No, it sounded like Taco Bell. That that one's definitely Taco
• 38:35
  Bell. That one is definitely Friday
• 38:38
  the 13th. It's the undertaker.
• 38:40
  I was going to say it's not like wrestling.
• 38:46
  I think they are actually the same bell.
• 38:48
  It's just, you know, they put different effects on the
• 38:51
  undertakers to make it lower. And yeah, yeah, I don't know
• 38:59
  about you guys, but I'm getting a little thirsty.
• 39:00
  How about you, Fanny? I'm getting pretty thirsty too.
• 39:02
  I think it's time that we start to.
• 39:05
  Take a drink break. Yes, yes, let's do it.
• 39:09
  And this is a real break too, at Community's restaurant.
• 39:19
  Thanks for the coffee, Emily. I really needed it.
• 39:22
  No problem. We gotta hurry because we're
• 39:24
  always. Late.
• 39:25
  Oh no, the lights turning red. No.
• 39:28
  Oh man, there's copy everywhere. Where are the napkins?
• 39:31
  Don't worry about it, we can just go ahead and I'll schedule
• 39:34
  with two U auto. They'll come to where we're at
• 39:36
  and then they'll clean it while we're at the wedding.
• 39:38
  OK, you drive I'll schedule with two U auto.
• 39:40
  What's the website? Go to two U auto dot.
• 39:43
  Com wait what was it again? The number 2, the letter U
• 39:48
  auto.com Perfect. OK.
• 39:54
  Cure a few moments later, 2000 years later.
• 40:00
  Oh wow, that was for me I guess, bitch.
• 40:12
  Oh. Petty.
• 40:14
  I know. It was at this moment he knew he
• 40:18
  fucked. Up.
• 40:51
  And we are back from the break. We've got a drink made.
• 40:58
  It's very nice and refreshing so far, especially sitting here in
• 41:03
  the summer night in this room that we are recording in.
• 41:08
  Or in wherever you'll have us listening to in your ears.
• 41:12
  Yeah, you're in your garage working on your car.
• 41:15
  I know it's hot out there. Yeah, we also like to do
• 41:20
  mocktails. So shout out to Danny for giving
• 41:22
  us a reason to do a mocktail and not drink because, you know, we
• 41:25
  also don't drink sometimes, but we do enjoy a good alcoholic
• 41:31
  drink, but also a good like just refreshing drink.
• 41:34
  So we got to just make a nice simple mojito, but, you know,
• 41:38
  without the alcohol. Yeah, I also had like 10 plus
• 41:42
  shots of Hennessy early. So I was trying to leave that
• 41:46
  part out. I was trying to say that we're I
• 41:50
  was trying to make a sound super innocent you.
• 41:53
  Love a little cocktail situation, you know?
• 41:55
  Exactly what do you think? It's amazing, yeah, so
• 41:58
  refreshing It is needed with how hard it is right now.
• 42:02
  Not the excessive heat warning. Yeah, literally.
• 42:05
  Yeah, that did just come through an excessive heat warning to
• 42:08
  like next Wednesday. Damn.
• 42:11
  Like, oh. Yeah, it's that time in the
• 42:15
  summer. And then like, I feel like we
• 42:17
  get it up until like September. Yeah.
• 42:19
  Yeah. Like it just gets like really
• 42:21
  unbearable during this time. Yeah, so tell us a little bit
• 42:24
  about this mocktail here. It's a Mojito mocktail.
• 42:28
  Yes. Looks like we've got some mint
• 42:30
  in there. Yeah, So, you know, just to make
• 42:33
  this at home super simple, just muddle up a bunch of mint, add
• 42:36
  some club soda, some simple syrup, some lime juice, or just
• 42:39
  some water with sugar in it too. You don't necessarily need to go
• 42:43
  buy simple syrup. It's super easy to just do that
• 42:46
  and then add some ice and peace hot dog, I guess.
• 42:51
  Yeah, I don't know. Works works for me.
• 42:53
  Like I said earlier, would be perfect in any hot climate.
• 42:57
  I said it would be perfect if I was sitting there in Laos.
• 43:00
  Oh yeah. On the porch.
• 43:02
  Do you miss Laos right now? I'm talking to my wife.
• 43:07
  Aw. Do you miss your wife?
• 43:08
  Right now, can you get in the kitchen and cook me with some
• 43:10
  pork? Wow, I'll be.
• 43:12
  Dope. Right now.
• 43:14
  Wow. Kobe.
• 43:18
  And that's the real reason you got married 1st.
• 43:26
  When are you going back again? I don't know, it'll be a while.
• 43:30
  We're still working on like immigration papers and stuff.
• 43:34
  No, I mean like when you're gonna go back.
• 43:36
  Yeah, to go pick her up. Oh, you're not gonna go again
• 43:39
  and. Like the summer?
• 43:40
  Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to, but
• 43:43
  we'll see what happens. Yeah, fair.
• 43:45
  I gotta. That's why I've been chasing
• 43:47
  down all the dollars that I can. Fair, Yeah.
• 43:50
  It's expensive back here, yeah. Let's go into more about how
• 43:55
  you've been chasing down these dollars.
• 44:00
  But you know, also maybe chasing dollars in a different way.
• 44:03
  I don't know what. I don't want to sexualize it.
• 44:05
  But you know, you've also started to do events for LGBTQ.
• 44:11
  Oh yes. So this year we teamed up with a
• 44:15
  few others. Well, a few others teamed up
• 44:17
  with us. They have brought us on the
• 44:19
  contracted ICT bazaars to be a part of Dragging Douglas.
• 44:23
  It's its own brand new entity. So it's Dragging Douglas ICT,
• 44:27
  but we're also working on more events we are meeting.
• 44:31
  Actually, so it's not gonna just be in June.
• 44:34
  Correct. At least I think right now, let
• 44:36
  me not put any hopes out there, but we're working on other
• 44:41
  things at the moment. But we started it with well,
• 44:45
  Fabian, the one that spearheaded the entire thing.
• 44:49
  He his big, big thing is exposure.
• 44:54
  So he wanted to like basically expose Wichita to and you know,
• 44:59
  everything about Pride, not just coming and waving flags and
• 45:03
  stuff like real deal, like gay shit.
• 45:06
  And he is, he works at Wichita Public schools.
• 45:12
  I don't really know his position, like he's in like the
• 45:15
  admin side of things, but he also is a big part of Riverfest.
• 45:21
  And so he had asked Riverfest if they wanted to do like a pride
• 45:26
  theme thing. And you know, of course, the
• 45:28
  city said a big fat no. Wow, these bitches, Yeah.
• 45:31
  But I mean, of course, like, look where we are.
• 45:33
  I mean, yeah, but I guess like. Yeah, it is what it is.
• 45:38
  Well, I mean like with the whole drama that happened with Lily Wu
• 45:40
  with the Tran stuff. Of course they wouldn't want to
• 45:43
  touch that. Yeah, 10 foot pole.
• 45:45
  Did you did you read about it? I kind of seen forcefully, like,
• 45:49
  all over Facebook and stuff. Yeah.
• 45:51
  And everyone arguing, especially, you know, me being
• 45:54
  in that realm. Yeah.
• 45:55
  That's pretty much all I saw on Facebook for a while.
• 45:58
  Yeah. But yeah.
• 45:59
  So he had brought that idea up to them.
• 46:01
  And of course, they shot it down.
• 46:03
  So he was like, well, I want to do it anyways.
• 46:06
  And so we were like, oh, he said.
• 46:08
  I want to do it right outside of Riverfest at the.
• 46:12
  Same time, I did love that it was right like that.
• 46:15
  It was also during Riverfest because I think like it allowed
• 46:18
  you like as someone who wants to, you know, like participate
• 46:23
  in the city and also wants to just like do something on the
• 46:26
  weekend. Like it's nice to have those
• 46:28
  both options in the same day. Absolutely.
• 46:31
  It was, it was so cool. It was really a really cool
• 46:34
  experience. But yeah, they, he spearheaded
• 46:37
  it and then contracted us, was supposed to just be the vendor
• 46:42
  side of things. But then, you know, he's never
• 46:45
  thrown an event by himself before.
• 46:47
  Then he realized there's so much that goes into it.
• 46:49
  And we've thrown an event from scratch, you know, in many
• 46:52
  different aspects in different venues and stuff.
• 46:55
  So we basically helped push everything along.
• 47:00
  And we met up literally at Las Adelitas every week on Anita's
• 47:05
  lunch hour. Yeah.
• 47:07
  And so she came downstairs and while she was eating her lunch,
• 47:10
  we would all, you know, you know, push the project along and
• 47:14
  get everything. And it was crazy because it all
• 47:16
  came together within like, I swear it was like 2 months, not
• 47:20
  even like, oh, nice. Maybe two months and some
• 47:22
  change. Like it was crazy that we were
• 47:25
  able to pull that off. And so many people believed in
• 47:28
  us and we got so much funding and it was really pretty cool.
• 47:33
  Yeah. And so it was really fun because
• 47:37
  we brought in, if you guys are familiar with Q from RuPaul,
• 47:42
  they were on like the last year's season.
• 47:46
  I don't really watch RuPaul, but yeah, they were really big on
• 47:50
  there. And so they are actually from
• 47:53
  Emporia. Oh, I didn't know that.
• 47:54
  That's. Crazy.
• 47:55
  Yeah. Q lives in Kansas City and they
• 47:58
  are from Emporia, but their partner is from Wichita.
• 48:02
  What? Yes.
• 48:03
  So how did you guys like get in contact with them?
• 48:05
  So Fabian, the one that spearheaded the event, yeah, he,
• 48:10
  I don't know how he got to this point, but he talked to some
• 48:13
  management and it's like a like a talent team and they have a
• 48:18
  whole scope of artists, not necessarily just that one
• 48:22
  person. So they represent a whole bunch
• 48:23
  of different talent. And I think the talent that they
• 48:26
  specialize is drag Queens and stuff, or that's just a big part
• 48:29
  of what they do. So basically that was who was
• 48:34
  available and within the budget and we made it happen and it was
• 48:40
  really cool. My favorite thing about that
• 48:42
  aspect that goes further into the beliefs of Dummy or sorry,
• 48:47
  the beliefs of ICT bazaars, we were able to give a really,
• 48:52
  really big opportunity to. So we had a fashion show as
• 48:56
  well, which Dummy was a part of. So not only do we have some
• 48:59
  fashion people that were on the same stage as Q, we had local,
• 49:04
  we had Q as the headliner and then everybody else at, I don't
• 49:08
  remember the number, I'm sorry, but maybe like four or five drag
• 49:10
  Queens. And they were all local artists.
• 49:13
  So we were able to give them the platform of working alongside
• 49:17
  this celebrity drag queen. So that was a really big part of
• 49:22
  it. And I feel like that is really
• 49:24
  good for them to add to their resume portfolio.
• 49:26
  For sure. Book further things.
• 49:29
  So having them there and also a lot of them, which kind of
• 49:34
  pisses me off a lot of them said that this is the most that they
• 49:37
  were ever paid for, you know, doing an event.
• 49:40
  So I'm like oh, so these people not paying you all enough or at
• 49:43
  all. So we need to work on that.
• 49:45
  Wichita. Yeah.
• 49:47
  Yeah. And so like going back to that,
• 49:49
  maybe that's also why, like you're trying to do these events
• 49:51
  more. So like now you're setting a
• 49:53
  standard. Exactly.
• 49:54
  And the standard has been set and like, people need to step up
• 49:57
  too. Right.
• 49:58
  And also Dusty can attest to this.
• 50:01
  Like, you know, we pay him because he brings a lot of
• 50:03
  talent and also, you know, he brings in some other talent too.
• 50:08
  I, I kind of go into it being like, hey, what's, what's your
• 50:12
  rates? This is kind of like my budget.
• 50:14
  And then we kind of work something out.
• 50:15
  And I kind of like to do that with all the artists because I
• 50:19
  believe in paying people what they're worth.
• 50:21
  And, but also on my side of things, I like to kind of, you
• 50:24
  know, shave off the budget where I can.
• 50:26
  So it's like a happy medium. A happy medium between
• 50:29
  everybody. Yeah.
• 50:30
  And everybody wins and everybody wins, including the patrons,
• 50:33
  because they get a grand old time.
• 50:35
  Yeah. And most of the time it's for
• 50:36
  free. Yeah.
• 50:36
  Because we don't really charge for our stuff.
• 50:39
  So yeah, it's pretty cool. Do you see a future where maybe
• 50:43
  you guys would want to charge? Yes, I do want to dive into like
• 50:48
  ticketed events because I trying to sell tickets gives me
• 50:52
  anxiety. I did do an event, well we were
• 50:56
  trying to do an event called brunch and beats that we're
• 50:58
  going to have Dusty do. And I literally sold 2 tickets
• 51:01
  to it and I was trying to sell so many more and it literally
• 51:05
  kind of like crushed me in a way.
• 51:07
  And so I'm like scared and it put me off from doing ticketed
• 51:10
  events. But I started leaning back into
• 51:12
  it more with just craft parties because those are easier spaces
• 51:15
  to. So we've actually been selling
• 51:17
  out of all of the craft parties that we've been doing.
• 51:20
  Granted, it's not like, you know, like 50-60 tickets or
• 51:22
  nothing, but we're still doing sold out classes.
• 51:25
  So that's pretty cool. But I definitely want to dive
• 51:29
  deeper into doing ticketed events, especially because now
• 51:32
  that we have experience working with talent agencies, I can dive
• 51:36
  deeper into that in bringing other talent.
• 51:39
  And I've kind of talked to Dusty a little bit about like some
• 51:41
  recommendations of some people that we should bring in.
• 51:44
  Oh yeah, And maybe that's type of thing that what we would
• 51:46
  charge for. And I kind of see it, don't get
• 51:51
  the negative connotation from this, but I kind of see it the
• 51:53
  way of how like Riverfest does their ticketing where like you
• 51:56
  get a lot of bang for your buck. I mean, but it has to actually
• 51:58
  be good bang for your buck. OK, sure.
• 52:00
  I feel like with Riverfest it's a lot of bang for your buck, but
• 52:03
  it's not any of the bang I would want to, you know?
• 52:06
  Yeah, exactly. It's not no bang that I want to
• 52:09
  buck. Like we would bring in actual
• 52:11
  cool people and actual like things that, you know, people
• 52:15
  want to see, not just some random whatever we can book type
• 52:17
  shit. So I would like to do something
• 52:21
  like that where maybe if they're paying, they get a lot more for
• 52:27
  it than. Yeah, for sure.
• 52:28
  Which? You see other places so that
• 52:30
  would be lovely to get into. Yeah.
• 52:32
  I think like like on that like cuz you're trying to bring
• 52:36
  talent in more and you're trying to do that.
• 52:38
  Like do you think like other events or vendor set up
• 52:44
  sometimes, especially in Wichita, want to play it safe
• 52:47
  and like maybe don't always think like, you know, you again,
• 52:52
  like you guys were talking about the event that you did for pride
• 52:55
  and wanting to do it in more than just in June and asking the
• 53:01
  asking Riverfest if they wanted to do something and they said
• 53:03
  no. And now it's like, OK, do you
• 53:06
  kind of see that? Like, is that true?
• 53:08
  Is that not true that maybe some businesses and some events want
• 53:10
  to play it safe or feel like I can't dive into that area and
• 53:14
  you're trying not to do that? I feel like yes and no because
• 53:18
  they're playing it safe as in a lot of people just kind of focus
• 53:21
  solely on local, which I feel like that's good because you
• 53:25
  know, when we want to, we all know we got to keep the money in
• 53:27
  the community. But also you need to open your
• 53:30
  arms a little bit and bring in other talent to kind of cushion
• 53:34
  and also add on to that. Because no matter what, when you
• 53:39
  bring in other talent like, you know, you see like interest Bank
• 53:43
  Arena, whenever they have an event and they, let's say, you
• 53:46
  know, they brought Justin Timberlake or they will.
• 53:47
  I don't know if that's already happened, but you're going to
• 53:50
  have so many people that come in not just from Wichita, but
• 53:52
  maybe, you know, Celina, Manhattan, they're going to
• 53:54
  drive over here and they're going to be spending money at
• 53:56
  our hotels, at all the local restaurants and stuff.
• 53:59
  So I feel like it's more than just like people are focusing
• 54:02
  too much on local music and rather than adding on to that,
• 54:09
  as well as the people that aren't playing it safe, they're
• 54:12
  just playing it wrong. But there are a lot of people
• 54:17
  here that are doing great though that I that I really love.
• 54:20
  So it's not just all bad. Yeah, for sure.
• 54:23
  So like take us for example, how would you take, how would you
• 54:26
  help us like level it up? What would you tell us that we
• 54:30
  need to do? Like as far as like your
• 54:33
  branding or as far as what? Yeah, whatever.
• 54:35
  Like maybe just the branding or maybe just the pod.
• 54:38
  Like what do you feel like y'all need to do more too?
• 54:40
  Like how? Like what?
• 54:42
  What do you see? What do you think?
• 54:43
  Oh, that's a. And, and you can spy here, I
• 54:46
  mean, but you, you could tell us.
• 54:47
  I want to hear this. So I will say like just like for
• 54:51
  transparency, you know, I don't really listen to podcasts a lot,
• 54:53
  so I can't give you some like real deal like advice, I guess.
• 54:59
  But I will say I do like what you're doing with bringing in so
• 55:03
  many different people because then like for example, like you
• 55:06
  guys will attach to like my audience, like both sides of it
• 55:09
  with bazaars as well as dummy. And everybody has their own
• 55:13
  little audience, no matter how big or small it is, you know,
• 55:16
  like there's still at least one person like following all these
• 55:19
  people. So I like that you guys are
• 55:22
  expanding and just bringing all different types of talent
• 55:25
  because then you'll get a good mix of people.
• 55:28
  Like you'll just kind of, I guess grab the people that will
• 55:31
  gravitate towards you guys. And it's not just all like, for
• 55:34
  example, tattoo people like from before.
• 55:38
  It's just all different types of people because everyone supports
• 55:40
  businesses, whether it's a local business, it's a this type of
• 55:43
  business, it's a that type of business.
• 55:45
  So the fact that you guys are diving into each different
• 55:48
  aspects while still like staying true to like your brand, I
• 55:54
  really like that. And I do like that you guys have
• 55:56
  branding compared to like a lot of businesses and a lot of
• 56:00
  entities. They don't really focus on
• 56:02
  branding. Yeah, I think that's a really
• 56:04
  big thing and like the catchy name and stuff.
• 56:07
  So I guess I I can. So you love us?
• 56:10
  I do. I love you guys.
• 56:12
  Mostly me if you. If you had to pick between Dusty
• 56:15
  and I, who would you pick? I had to pick my cousin.
• 56:17
  I'm sorry, that's not even a question.
• 56:22
  I didn't just do that. Hey, you set yourself up for
• 56:26
  that. One I did.
• 56:27
  You're right. You're right.
• 56:27
  You're right. You're right.
• 56:28
  That's fine. That's true.
• 56:30
  OK, OK. Shit.
• 56:33
  I'm so sorry. My thing is going off and I
• 56:35
  swear I freaking put this on. Shut up mode.
• 56:40
  That used to happen to me, like, like going off like in class and
• 56:43
  stuff. Like you put your phone like, on
• 56:45
  silent stuff, but then forget about your laptop, Yeah.
• 56:48
  Like fuck, OK, so sorry about that.
• 56:52
  OK, but speaking about maybe not bitches, but just like speaking
• 56:57
  about setting yourself up for failure.
• 57:01
  There's a study that's been going around.
• 57:05
  I wouldn't say super around, but I I, I recently caught wind of
• 57:09
  it about like how men also fake orgasms, which I think like is
• 57:14
  human right? Because faking something is to
• 57:17
  any it's not gender exclusive. Right.
• 57:20
  And so like the study though, like the first one from like the
• 57:24
  Journal of Sex Research, which was in 2010, it said that like,
• 57:28
  which was a really small sample size, like 180 men, so that
• 57:32
  about like 25% of them faked in orgasm, which I don't know, I
• 57:36
  was kind of like, that seems low.
• 57:39
  But well, maybe the first time I heard it, I also kind of thought
• 57:41
  maybe a little high, but then like I was like, oh, yeah, I
• 57:44
  guess I do too. Or I guess in my head, I've
• 57:46
  always put ejaculation and orgasm for men.
• 57:52
  That's the same thing, but it's not the same thing.
• 57:54
  I didn't know that. I had to Google that.
• 57:58
  You guys probably do that. I didn't know that.
• 58:00
  But what I'm trying to say by that is that like later on in
• 58:04
  2024, so just last year, that number recently increased to
• 58:09
  like 34% and the number just continues to increase.
• 58:12
  Like, you know, like if you're you're queer, you might do it
• 58:16
  83% of the time. So have you guys faked it?
• 58:23
  I would say probably yes. Yes.
• 58:27
  What do you mean? Probably yes.
• 58:29
  You don't know when you have or haven't.
• 58:33
  I try to black out a bunch of the times that I've had that
• 58:38
  stuff just because I just, I hate thinking about like me with
• 58:43
  other men. Like it just grosses me out.
• 58:49
  Like just thinking about it. Like I don't know how to explain
• 58:53
  it. You don't enjoy sex.
• 58:56
  No, I do OK, but like like as I have a partner, yes, so think
• 59:02
  about me with other men. I'm just like, I like to black
• 59:05
  that out, but I see there's been a men just suck.
• 59:09
  They do. And not good enough.
• 59:12
  Like, the bar's so low. Like, it's like, Oh my God, he
• 59:15
  listened to me. Yeah.
• 59:17
  And it's like, yay. Yeah, and even in the gay world,
• 59:20
  a lot of men are out for themselves, like, getting
• 59:22
  themselves off and stuff, too. So like, I ran into that, like,
• 59:26
  messing around with guys, like they're just getting their stuff
• 59:31
  to handle. Yeah.
• 59:33
  And like, I don't really care about my end of things.
• 59:36
  I'm like, Oh my gosh, yeah, I might as well just use a sex
• 59:39
  doll. Yeah, for real.
• 59:41
  That's the Have you faked it? Yeah.
• 59:46
  Yeah, recently. I just don't answer that because
• 59:52
  you're married now. Never mind.
• 59:57
  Sorry, wrong question, wrong audience.
• 1:00:02
  Yeah, I don't. I don't know.
• 1:00:05
  I did. You want to.
• 1:00:06
  Know. About that shit, I don't know.
• 1:00:07
  I was going to go somewhere else and then like.
• 1:00:10
  I just had to fake it. Yeah, fake.
• 1:00:12
  It till you make it. Yeah, I guess like that, that's
• 1:00:15
  what I, I remember now where I was going with it.
• 1:00:18
  Like, you know, and like, I think as a girl, like you do it
• 1:00:23
  because you just want it to be over with.
• 1:00:25
  Right. Is that similar for guys too?
• 1:00:29
  Yeah. But is there, is there ever like
• 1:00:31
  an issue of like it being tied to like maybe like you don't
• 1:00:34
  want to admit to that, that you faked it?
• 1:00:35
  I mean, in both instances, right.
• 1:00:37
  Like I think like as a girl, like I'd be kind of embarrassed
• 1:00:40
  to tell the guy that. Like I didn't enjoy that.
• 1:00:42
  Yes, because I don't want. Yeah, yeah, I'll just, like
• 1:00:47
  leave and never talk to them again.
• 1:00:49
  I didn't. I didn't feel bad either times,
• 1:00:53
  any of the times that I did it. It's just like, man, I just want
• 1:00:55
  to go to sleep, man. Freaking yeah.
• 1:00:57
  This shit wasn't my idea. She wasn't finding that that's
• 1:01:03
  true. Yeah.
• 1:01:04
  Usually like when that when you're like faking something or
• 1:01:07
  not or just wanting something to be done with, it's not something
• 1:01:10
  that you initiated typically, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:13
  It's usually the other person and just kind of like trying to
• 1:01:18
  help them feel better I guess. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Yeah. And like, why is that?
• 1:01:24
  Like we kind of suck at being able to put the boundary there
• 1:01:27
  or what? It's a.
• 1:01:28
  Story, a story. It's the beginning, a middle and
• 1:01:31
  an end. You know, there's any, any sort
• 1:01:34
  of task that you do, you start it and then you finish it.
• 1:01:38
  That's the end. There's the beginning and an end
• 1:01:41
  to life, to everything, possibly the universe.
• 1:01:46
  It's just. Yeah.
• 1:01:48
  And you went real, real out there with that.
• 1:01:50
  Was just how. Just how it was, just how it
• 1:01:53
  works it. Was just how it was, like it was
• 1:01:55
  the beginning and an end and now.
• 1:01:58
  So you're high, it's. Just how it works.
• 1:02:05
  Right, right. I guess I was just kind of going
• 1:02:07
  with the part a little bit more of like how like I sometimes I
• 1:02:16
  feel like I don't know enough about the male anatomy like.
• 1:02:19
  There's not much to it. I didn't know where the what
• 1:02:23
  what is What is the thing called the the.
• 1:02:25
  Gooch. Yes I don't.
• 1:02:28
  I literally had to go and Google that.
• 1:02:29
  It's a Tinley, yeah. It's a taint.
• 1:02:31
  You know what the taint is. No.
• 1:02:34
  Taint. Oh.
• 1:02:35
  No. It's the in between.
• 1:02:38
  It is what the Gooch is. It's just the same, different
• 1:02:42
  names for the same thing. Oh, OK, I guess like I didn't
• 1:02:46
  realize that it wasn't like. You just thought I didn't.
• 1:02:50
  You just thought. You just thought.
• 1:02:52
  You know, whatever you thought, that's what the butt hole was
• 1:02:54
  you. Didn't No, I know that that was
• 1:02:56
  different. No, what I'm saying is like, I
• 1:02:59
  didn't realize that. Like it was just like bearskin,
• 1:03:04
  you know what I mean? Like like like a.
• 1:03:07
  Whole different organ. Yeah, I don't know, Like, you
• 1:03:10
  know, I think in a woman's body, your arousal points are not
• 1:03:17
  typically just flat surfaces. Yeah.
• 1:03:21
  You know, you're, I don't know nothing about that woman.
• 1:03:28
  You never had to fake it. Woman's not.
• 1:03:30
  That you were. You came out.
• 1:03:32
  You came out early. I think he can attest this.
• 1:03:36
  Everyone kind of knew before I did.
• 1:03:38
  They really did because I used to be like like I would say that
• 1:03:42
  I wasn't gay but that's cuz I didn't know.
• 1:03:44
  He's like, he's like, he's like a soft kid.
• 1:03:47
  Yeah, like, you could just tell. Yeah.
• 1:03:49
  And I always hung around the girls.
• 1:03:50
  Yeah. Like in retrospect, I'm like,
• 1:03:52
  yeah, like everyone just knew. I didn't really have to really
• 1:03:55
  come out. I didn't really.
• 1:03:56
  I didn't really like come out, come out and like, to like my
• 1:03:59
  family. I mean, the only person I really
• 1:04:01
  told them I think was like my little sister.
• 1:04:04
  But she was just like, I know. And then it was like anyways.
• 1:04:08
  Yeah, I feel like that would be like if I ever had kids or like
• 1:04:12
  me as an aunt or something. I'm not saying that any of them
• 1:04:15
  are. What I am saying is like, or
• 1:04:18
  even a friend. Like, I don't ever want someone
• 1:04:20
  to feel like they're coming out. Right, but I did have to come
• 1:04:23
  out. Oh, OK.
• 1:04:24
  But that was like for like peers, like, not, not my family
• 1:04:28
  like, because, you know, it's just a bigger thing around like
• 1:04:32
  school and all that. But like I wasn't so much like
• 1:04:36
  because I wasn't like out, but I wasn't like straight, you know,
• 1:04:39
  So like there was I had a friend and this was back in freshman
• 1:04:45
  year. I well, I realized what how it
• 1:04:48
  all happened. Like when I first realized that
• 1:04:52
  I liked man I like, I thought that.
• 1:04:55
  I was wait, sorry, sorry. You should have put like barfing
• 1:04:57
  noise after that. Like I realized I liked him
• 1:05:00
  because like that's literally what it feels like.
• 1:05:01
  So keep going. Whenever I found out that I like
• 1:05:05
  men, I was just like, oh, maybe I'm bi or maybe I like both.
• 1:05:09
  I didn't. And so I didn't really think
• 1:05:12
  about it. And then in high school, I
• 1:05:14
  realized I was like, oh, I'm straight up gay.
• 1:05:16
  And I never like messed with a woman or anything.
• 1:05:19
  And so I had a friend and it was a straight guy.
• 1:05:22
  And then we got in a big fight and then he threatened to go
• 1:05:25
  tell everyone that I was gay. And so I was like, you ain't
• 1:05:28
  even gonna do all that. So then I literally posted it
• 1:05:32
  myself. And then I just came out myself
• 1:05:34
  before he could go and make me come out or like, come out for
• 1:05:37
  me. And then the next day at school,
• 1:05:40
  I like, rant up to his table and like, I instantly, like, tried
• 1:05:44
  to fight him. And we both got like, suspended
• 1:05:46
  and stuff. Oh, shit, yeah, it was crazy.
• 1:05:49
  But like, he got suspended for like, you know, like hate.
• 1:05:53
  Yeah, it sounds like it. I mean, because like it one like
• 1:05:57
  I guess like that's what I was trying to say with that too.
• 1:05:59
  Like it's not that like I wouldn't want like like I'm just
• 1:06:03
  kind of like, OK, cool. Like you're you like I, I
• 1:06:05
  wouldn't want someone to feel like they have to come out to
• 1:06:07
  me. Like in general, even up here,
• 1:06:09
  like my friends who are gay, who later on in life, you know,
• 1:06:14
  finally told their family or whatever, like they never were
• 1:06:17
  like, hey, I'm gay. Like I just kind of like, I
• 1:06:19
  don't want them to feel that way I guess.
• 1:06:21
  You know what I mean? I guess in that sense, I I'm
• 1:06:23
  blessed because like, I didn't really have to do much or like,
• 1:06:27
  hide myself in that aspect. Yeah.
• 1:06:29
  You know, that a lot of people have to go through that battle
• 1:06:32
  and stuff, but it is kind of crazy because like, like on my
• 1:06:36
  dad's side, they're very religious.
• 1:06:38
  And so, you know, and then our family is very traditional.
• 1:06:42
  Yeah. So it's like both ends of being
• 1:06:45
  very like religious and stuff and like having like, you know,
• 1:06:50
  norms, but like so people that I'm surrounded by, it's like no
• 1:06:58
  one really cares that much. You know, like, which is
• 1:07:00
  awesome. Yeah, like my dad, like he's,
• 1:07:03
  you know, he's kind of like he's against it, you know.
• 1:07:05
  But like anytime I've had like a partner, he'll talk to them and
• 1:07:09
  he's cool with them, you know, like, I guess they're just kind
• 1:07:11
  of past it. Like, of course, I feel like now
• 1:07:15
  I used to think my dad wouldn't come to my wedding, but I kind
• 1:07:17
  of feel like he would, you know? But religiously, like he that's
• 1:07:22
  not something that he agrees with.
• 1:07:23
  Yeah, stuff like that. But yeah, I never really had to
• 1:07:27
  hide that stuff. I love that for you.
• 1:07:30
  Oh yeah. Yeah, so, but but I will say
• 1:07:34
  I've hid myself in different aspects as far as like I didn't
• 1:07:37
  really come out of my shell until like way later in life.
• 1:07:40
  I was always quiet and reserved and like to myself and very, you
• 1:07:44
  know, quiet. But now I'm more outspoken and I
• 1:07:48
  can actually like, talk to people somewhat.
• 1:07:53
  I mean, you're talking to us. Yes, literally becoming a
• 1:07:56
  business owner has helped me so much with socializing and
• 1:08:01
  learning to talk to people. Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  Because like. You have to network.
• 1:08:05
  Yeah, you have no choice. Yeah.
• 1:08:07
  And no one will advocate for you like you yourself.
• 1:08:09
  So yeah, that's what I kind of, you know, have practice everyday
• 1:08:14
  doing. And you feel like that makes
• 1:08:16
  you, like, tired. Talking to so many people or yes
• 1:08:20
  because at the end of every day I'm like Oh my God I just want
• 1:08:24
  to like ignore the world and just bed rot and like the only
• 1:08:27
  people I want to hear is my TikTok.
• 1:08:29
  Like because I was. Literally just sit there in bed.
• 1:08:31
  Like it's crazy. I will literally work 19 hours a
• 1:08:34
  day, come home and I still have to have my bed rot.
• 1:08:37
  Like I will literally sit there and I will get high and watch
• 1:08:40
  TikTok for a while. I don't care.
• 1:08:42
  That's the only thing that keeps me sane.
• 1:08:43
  Yeah. And so I get so tired of talking
• 1:08:46
  to people, networking, because like every day, whether I work
• 1:08:48
  my morning job or not, I have meetings and I'm talking
• 1:08:52
  business with people and it just gets so a lot.
• 1:08:55
  It's raining. Yes, because my mind's
• 1:08:57
  constantly running, which is a good and bad thing, but also I'm
• 1:09:02
  just constantly talking to people and, you know, depending
• 1:09:05
  on the person that I'm meeting with, like if it's someone on
• 1:09:07
  the more business professional side, I have to have more of
• 1:09:10
  that business morale. Yeah, but if it's like, you
• 1:09:13
  know, people like y'all can like, you know, just fuck around
• 1:09:17
  and say whatever and wait, it's chill.
• 1:09:18
  It's a chill business meeting. So yeah, I guess either way it
• 1:09:22
  still gets tiring. Yeah.
• 1:09:23
  But when it's more so like people that are actually like
• 1:09:27
  have to sit there and be very businessy with, it gets
• 1:09:32
  exhausting and a lot. But I'll do it every time.
• 1:09:38
  Yeah, that's why we're trying to make it like fun here.
• 1:09:41
  Yeah, I like it. So with that, we're going to
• 1:09:45
  jump into our next segment here, which we like to call the
• 1:09:48
  Lightning round are. We going to be on the spot.
• 1:09:53
  Yeah, yeah, it'll just be like a lightning round of.
• 1:09:56
  Question. I need a SIP for this.
• 1:09:58
  You just answer them just kind of what comes to mind first.
• 1:10:03
  Cool. And yeah, we'll do it.
• 1:10:06
  You ready? OK, is this about like me or is
• 1:10:08
  it about just random shape like trivia?
• 1:10:11
  Sometimes it's just random ship. OK, a lot of this is random
• 1:10:14
  ship. OK, what's that app?
• 1:10:15
  So I'm so ready. So first question is sweet or
• 1:10:19
  savory? What's your preferred flavor
• 1:10:21
  profile? Sweet, but we always love a
• 1:10:23
  little savory. I love Lassas and all these.
• 1:10:29
  When it comes to designing things, do you have like a go to
• 1:10:32
  font? No, I literally.
• 1:10:35
  Oh my God, for fonts I was. Dafont.
• 1:10:41
  Dafont is I'm a dafont girly, OK, But I will sit there and go
• 1:10:46
  forever. Yeah, like that's like probably
• 1:10:49
  one of the things that, like, racks my brain.
• 1:10:51
  Yeah. Fonts.
• 1:10:52
  But when it comes to like, making Flyers and graphics, I
• 1:10:54
  have a branding kit which, like helps hone it all in.
• 1:10:56
  So like, that's good. I'll just pick from like 3-4
• 1:10:59
  fonts that we have on deck, but when it's like creating new new
• 1:11:03
  designs, Oh my God don't even get me started anyways.
• 1:11:09
  What's the most chaotic event you've ever pulled off
• 1:11:11
  successfully? Like ones that we've hosted or
• 1:11:14
  ones that we've been a part of. Which everyone comes to your
• 1:11:17
  mind? Most chaotic 1.
• 1:11:20
  Let's see. Oh my God, not the lightning
• 1:11:22
  round. I you're putting me on the spot.
• 1:11:26
  I would say the most chaotic one would be the very first Asian
• 1:11:30
  night market. Yeah, that shit was so like.
• 1:11:33
  Wild NASCAR. Part Yes, that NASCAR part.
• 1:11:35
  That was super wild. Yes, like my tent broke.
• 1:11:38
  I was like fuck this shit I'm going home.
• 1:11:39
  But then literally everything in me told me was like no just just
• 1:11:44
  see it through my boy. And then we did.
• 1:11:46
  And then like me and Ian, which was my first employee at the
• 1:11:49
  time, we literally rock and rolled that shit because he
• 1:11:54
  convinced me to stay and we literally just did what we
• 1:11:58
  could. Like it was crazy.
• 1:12:00
  Like I have storage containers for my earrings that it's just
• 1:12:04
  for storage. It's like literally so ratchet.
• 1:12:06
  Like it was like a cardboard box that I just made sections with
• 1:12:09
  other cardboard boxes. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:11
  I threw that shit on. The table you're very DIY.
• 1:12:13
  Yes. I threw that shit on the table
• 1:12:15
  and everyone was ransacking that shit.
• 1:12:17
  So that shit was so chaotic. In the best way.
• 1:12:19
  Yeah, in the best way. Worst at first, but it turned
• 1:12:23
  out being really good. You get to design a shirt for
• 1:12:28
  any celebrity who isn't and what does it say?
• 1:12:31
  Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
• 1:12:33
  That's a great question. I don't even know.
• 1:12:35
  Do I have to answer these so fast?
• 1:12:36
  No. OK, you can think.
• 1:12:38
  So a celebrity honestly like it would be one of the housewives.
• 1:12:47
  One of the housewives. Yeah, just because I really like
• 1:12:49
  to watch them and they like keep me going because I just see like
• 1:12:52
  them hustling and stuff. But you said like, what would it
• 1:12:56
  say? Yeah, dude, I don't even know.
• 1:12:58
  I don't I really don't know. I would do more something like
• 1:13:03
  artsy. I don't really like like where
• 1:13:05
  it's. OK.
• 1:13:06
  On my merch I like to do more artsy stuff so.
• 1:13:08
  Is there a color that jumps out that you'd pick?
• 1:13:12
  For one of them I would say green and pink because I like
• 1:13:15
  really earthy and green. Green's my favorite color.
• 1:13:17
  I like how you looked at me when you said that.
• 1:13:20
  And they, they, a lot of the housewives see more glam and
• 1:13:23
  pink and stuff and green and pink can be a good little vibe
• 1:13:26
  because it's a little tropical vibe.
• 1:13:28
  So depending on which housewife like it would probably be green
• 1:13:30
  and pink. Yeah, I like that.
• 1:13:34
  It's one item you always forget to bring to an event.
• 1:13:38
  To Oh my gosh, that's where no, I do not.
• 1:13:43
  That's the only thing I will not forget is my vape, but I have to
• 1:13:48
  have that. But it gets me through, even if
• 1:13:50
  literally even if they say no smoking, I will go under my
• 1:13:53
  table and I will hit. That shit, Oh my.
• 1:13:55
  God, yes, I have to hit that weed like yeah, but one thing
• 1:14:00
  that I always forget I would say would be my price, my price
• 1:14:05
  signs or about the square reader.
• 1:14:07
  But thankfully like on my phone, you can like take like but chip
• 1:14:11
  or. Oh yeah, that's happening.
• 1:14:14
  Nice. So like I don't really need it
• 1:14:16
  anymore, but nice. Oh, and a canopy some like.
• 1:14:19
  I'll forget my canopy. That one of the big things that
• 1:14:23
  you really need something that's kind of really hard to miss.
• 1:14:27
  I will miss it, but I won't forget my vape.
• 1:14:32
  Priorities. Is there a design pet peeve that
• 1:14:36
  you have? Like that I see other people do.
• 1:14:40
  Yeah. Well, I would say like in the
• 1:14:45
  small business world, I see a lot of people that will buy
• 1:14:48
  their designs like pre made. So like that's all basically
• 1:14:53
  it's the same designs that other people have.
• 1:14:55
  And so it lacks originality about these people.
• 1:14:57
  Like I get it to steal a small business and you're like making
• 1:15:00
  the merge, but like you're not using your own designs.
• 1:15:02
  I feel like that's where it what differentiates us.
• 1:15:04
  But it's also one big pet peeve of mine.
• 1:15:06
  That's why I don't do it. And I think that's what also
• 1:15:08
  catapults us because everything's very original and I
• 1:15:11
  hate non originality. I hate people biting on other
• 1:15:13
  bitches. And that's just a really big
• 1:15:16
  example of that, so. I almost barked.
• 1:15:19
  Oh. I should get one of those
• 1:15:23
  buttons. Yeah, you need a barking button.
• 1:15:26
  For them dowels. Yeah.
• 1:15:30
  It's your favorite midnight snack.
• 1:15:33
  Talkies. Talkies.
• 1:15:35
  Oh, really? I like talkies.
• 1:15:37
  After you brush your teeth. I yes, I don't care.
• 1:15:40
  And then you'll brush them again after.
• 1:15:41
  Maybe not if I fall asleep I literally fall asleep eating
• 1:15:44
  like out cuz I'll get high and I will bed rot while I'm eating
• 1:15:47
  snacks. Yeah I'm like that Bishop.
• 1:15:49
  I will literally go to quick trip and spend like literally
• 1:15:53
  $25 on just candy, yeah, and a Gatorade and then eat it all and
• 1:16:00
  fall asleep. Like there's been so many times,
• 1:16:02
  like so at my old house, some of my employees had keys to my
• 1:16:07
  house, which sounds weird, but like sometimes I just like will
• 1:16:11
  be dead asleep or like they'll have to get into like my cuz my
• 1:16:14
  house was where we did everything before we had the
• 1:16:16
  store. Yeah.
• 1:16:17
  So like if they needed something while I wasn't there, they would
• 1:16:19
  go in and do it or they'd go be able to go there and work while
• 1:16:21
  I wasn't there. So many times they'd come and
• 1:16:25
  like for a shift at like 7-8 in the morning and then they'll
• 1:16:27
  come and open my door and like I'm like there just with like.
• 1:16:32
  Covered in Takis. Yeah, literally.
• 1:16:36
  And the Gatorade right next to you, no Shields over, Yeah.
• 1:16:40
  Yeah, I, I don't look like it, but I got a big back.
• 1:16:44
  Like for real. It's a it's, it's a big one,
• 1:16:50
  especially after them dabs. OK.
• 1:16:52
  Oh. My God.
• 1:16:56
  Late nights designing or early mornings setting up, Which one's
• 1:16:59
  worse? Early morning, Late night
• 1:17:04
  designing. Are you a morning person?
• 1:17:07
  I'm both. OK.
• 1:17:09
  Like I when I have a task to do, I will stay up until the tasks
• 1:17:14
  are done. But like I literally thrive off
• 1:17:18
  of like 3-4 hours of sleep but I'm a morning person.
• 1:17:21
  Like except for today I woke up late this morning but I will
• 1:17:24
  literally be up by like 6:00 AM every day no matter what time I
• 1:17:26
  go to bed. I think what it stems from is me
• 1:17:29
  being a barista back in the day. Like I used to work, you know,
• 1:17:33
  opening shift and get off at noon.
• 1:17:35
  Loved it every day but it's like ingrained in me and it actually
• 1:17:39
  helped me with business. Because oh, I bet.
• 1:17:41
  Yeah. Hell yeah.
• 1:17:42
  You know, I get a lot of shit done in the mornings and that's
• 1:17:44
  when I can talk to, like, the city for like, permits and taxes
• 1:17:48
  and all that bullshit. So yeah, I have to say both.
• 1:17:53
  Do you sleep early? Do I sleep early?
• 1:17:56
  Yeah. What time?
• 1:17:56
  In a perfect world, I do like to sleep early.
• 1:17:59
  But since I started picking up this morning job again, I've
• 1:18:02
  been working so much because I'm trained.
• 1:18:06
  They're playing me right now. Let me just fucking say that
• 1:18:07
  because. Fucking bitches.
• 1:18:09
  Yeah. Because photos, I'm literally
• 1:18:11
  working one position and then training on another one at the
• 1:18:13
  same time. And so I'm working extra days
• 1:18:17
  and then I still have to come home and do everything.
• 1:18:22
  Yeah, like all my business shit and still not get everything
• 1:18:24
  done. Yeah.
• 1:18:25
  And so I've been going to bed at like midnight lately, but I like
• 1:18:30
  to go to bed around like 9. That's that's a good time.
• 1:18:33
  I think so. I'm trying to get there but it's
• 1:18:37
  not happening. It's hard.
• 1:18:38
  Well, I mean, you're trying to talk to your wife, and so you're
• 1:18:41
  like staying up pretty late just to be able to talk to her.
• 1:18:44
  Yeah, sometimes it's like 11 midnight to where, you know,
• 1:18:49
  it's 11:00 AM to noon over there.
• 1:18:52
  So yeah, sometimes it's like that.
• 1:18:55
  Sometimes when I'm like, hey, how about you get up at 7:00 and
• 1:18:59
  8:00? True.
• 1:19:01
  Talk to me around then. Turn that table, yeah.
• 1:19:04
  True compromise. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:19:09
  So, All right, Essential market playlist vibe.
• 1:19:13
  Oh shit, so like what music I would play?
• 1:19:18
  So I guess I could say like further than that.
• 1:19:21
  Like in my store, like the playlist, I like to play like
• 1:19:25
  indie surf rock music. That's because I feel like
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  that's it kind of stimulates sails, but in like a
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  comfortable, relaxing way. Like it's not too much, but it's
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  also very like different. But I do mostly at events they
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  get to pick the music and it's kind of rowdy crazy music, which
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  is the shit I don't want. But yeah, I like indie rock,
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  indie surf rock. That's my type of vibe.
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  So nothing specific, but just that genre.
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  So we've now heard a little bit about you, your stories, your
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  passions and some of your interests as well.
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  So tell us in our listeners, where and how can everyone find
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  you and support you? So you can find your new
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  favorite clothing line on Instagram at Dummy Apparel Co or
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  Dummy Apparel co.com. Or if you're local to Wichita,
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  you can come to our store located in Revolution on the top
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  floor. And our craft studio for ICT
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  bazaars is actually right next door.
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  So it's a 2 for one. We're gonna actually start doing
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  on Fridays and Saturdays, open craft nights at ICT bazaars.
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  So you can come in and do crafts that we usually would be like
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  ticketed events, but you can come in and do them.
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  So you can also find ICT Bazaars, and I'll spell that for
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  them. Yes, ICTBAZAARS on Instagram or
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  ICT bazaars.com and also you can find us on Facebook and TikTok
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  for dummy. Yeah, we just have to be
• 1:20:57
  everywhere. Exactly we're.
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  Just constantly in your face. And also you would just see us
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  at all your local events if and also like you can kind of see us
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  doing our thing over in Revolution because that's our
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  main headquarters. Yeah, that's where we do most of
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  our shit. Well, here's to you, Danny.
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  Thank you for coming. Bye, bye.
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  Bye bye Palcentro Y Palentro. I think I said that wrong.
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  What do you think? That was so fine.
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  Yeah, good. You gotta.
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  Do it again. Yeah, Hell.
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  Yeah, I love that.