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Patriots Unfiltered 2/27: NFL Combine Updates, Eliot Wolf, Draft Talk, Davon Godchaux Report · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: Mike Rabel had his opening press conference with the national media.
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  Speaker 3: He does love himself some Karenregian.
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  Speaker 4: He does you know Zoel was in particular, you know, gushing.
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  Speaker 3: He was gushing. That's a change I think throughout sports
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more work life balance.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, how do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 3: I hate it. I'm coming to the end, Paul, and
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  Speaker 3: what are they going to do? Fire me now? His suggestion,
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  Speaker 3: can you please stop letting Evan Wlizaar speak about anything
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  Speaker 3: to embarrass himself and frustrate the audience. I love what
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  Speaker 3: he adds to the draft talk, though he is no
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  Speaker 3: welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Jills Stadium.
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  Speaker 3: The combine goes on. It's Alex, it's Paul, it's me.
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  Speaker 3: Evan and Duce are at the combine. Will they be
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  Speaker 3: calling in Matt, Yes, yes, they will be at some
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  Speaker 3: point to that.
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  Speaker 4: I want to find out if he one of them
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  Speaker 4: have been involved in any altercations of anything.
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  Speaker 3: Well, did you hear about that? They'll be joining us
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  Speaker 3: around one to fifteen? Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Have I heard of it?
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  Speaker 3: Poor little Ian rappaport in Jordan Schultz?
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  Speaker 4: Is that his name, Jordan Schultz?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that he was the son of oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: somebody big.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, correct, yeah, CEO.
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  Speaker 4: But and is that.
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  Speaker 3: Where the altercation happened? At a star at a Starbucks.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that interesting?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But this Jordan Schultz is like a social media.
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  Speaker 4: Works for Fox. I believe. I think he's a real person. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: he's a real person. He's got an altercation with you
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  Speaker 4: and I know, But yeah, I think he is sort
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  Speaker 4: of working his way into that national media picture. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know a whole lot about him other than
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  Speaker 4: what Alex said.
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  Speaker 3: He wants to be like a shifter, right, I think so, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 5: Not a lot of people. I think he's trying to
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  Speaker 5: play it under the radar. Who his dad is too,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure, but I'm pretty sure, pretty confident that their home,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's out in California had like
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  Speaker 5: a basketball court that was modeled like the Staples Center
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  Speaker 5: or the former Staples Center. So I think that's how
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  Speaker 5: he got in with a lot of athletes because it
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  Speaker 5: was like a flex to go to how old?
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  Speaker 3: Because when I hear the name Jordan Schultz, my image
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  Speaker 3: is a guy who was about fifty eight years old. Heavy, Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 3: So he sounds like he's young, probably like that, I
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  Speaker 3: would say, a.
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  Speaker 5: Little older than me, mid thirties, wife, kids.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, oh he's got a wife and kids.
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  Speaker 5: A wife and kids.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't think you would be even that old.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyway, it all started with Tom Brady because
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  Speaker 3: it ties everything comes back to the Patriots. So it
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  Speaker 3: was just it was a report that Jordan Schultz started
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  Speaker 3: that Tom Brady ran into.
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  Speaker 4: Schultz reported that he met with Matthew Staffs well, Rappaport
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  Speaker 4: said it was yeah, he happened.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, they were at the same place skiing, and
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Schultz said that they met and hung out, and
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  Speaker 3: Rappaport came out and said, that's nonsense. They just had
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  Speaker 3: an interaction. They just happened to be at the same place,
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  Speaker 3: nothing more than that. And Jordan Schultz took offense at
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  Speaker 3: that and confronted him at a Starbucks and said, we
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  Speaker 3: need to talk. And this is I'm again, this is
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  Speaker 3: all what I'm reading. He said, we need to talk,
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  Speaker 3: and wrap report says no, we don't. We have nothing
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  Speaker 3: to talk about, and you know, and.
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  Speaker 4: He ran and got security.
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  Speaker 3: It got really close. He got security report and he
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  Speaker 3: got really close and Rapport said you need to step
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  Speaker 3: back a little bit, and he reported it to security
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  Speaker 3: because it had the potential of being a physical altercation.
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  Speaker 3: So but people love the media and media.
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  Speaker 6: Stuff hilarious security, I think that is the underlying the
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  Speaker 6: whole thing.
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  Speaker 5: Was Jordan Schultz going to physically fight.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he did say that. He said, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: have a problem.
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  Speaker 5: But that's not like I'm going to punch you.
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  Speaker 3: In a dropped by Schultz, he said he did he
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  Speaker 3: says he didn't. Yeah, the article Hummery didn't have the
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  Speaker 3: part involved.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure there were a lot of way that's the
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  Speaker 4: only part, but that's the only part of the story,
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  Speaker 4: he disputes. He says he didn't use all.
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  Speaker 3: So the question is, was Evan or Deuce in the area?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's happened, right, which is why I used that, right,
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  Speaker 4: find out what they've been involved in, who they've been fighting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm kind of team Schultz.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm so in the story. Whose side are
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  Speaker 4: you taking? Like, is it at all plausible to you
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  Speaker 4: that Matthew Stafford happened to bump into Tom Brady completely
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  Speaker 4: coincidental in Montana?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I think that. I think as many of these
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  Speaker 3: things happened, I think there's I think there's this side,
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  Speaker 3: this side, and then there's the truth. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that there's a little bit of truth in everything. I
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  Speaker 3: think that this this ski resort is high up there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think there is.
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  Speaker 3: A chance that a guy like Tom Brady and Matthew
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  Speaker 3: Stafford would be in the same place like that. And
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  Speaker 3: the question is let's say that that just let's say
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  Speaker 3: you're buying that once they did bump into each other.
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  Speaker 3: How much time did they spend? And did Brady look
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  Speaker 3: at at that as an opportunity to do a little recruiting?
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing. So so the fact that here's the thing,
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  Speaker 3: the fact that Schultz's thing comes out and then Rapaport's
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  Speaker 3: so quick to come out with the rebuttal means that
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  Speaker 3: somebody said knew that that would be a violation. We
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  Speaker 3: got to set this straight. Let's hurd a Rapaport. Why
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  Speaker 3: not go to Schultz and straighten it.
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  Speaker 4: Out because the bigger platform.
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  Speaker 3: Or Schultz knows what really happened, and there's no sense
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  Speaker 3: in doing that.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably something probably something like that. I you agree, Freddy, but.
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  Speaker 3: Why Tom Brady should not be doing what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: Either you come to the patriots or to be ok.
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  Speaker 3: But don't do that. You're going to get yourself in
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  Speaker 3: trouble because if it is true that he spent more
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  Speaker 3: than just a hey, how you doing? You know, see
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  Speaker 3: you later, that's a violation. That's a tampering violation. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, again, they'll never prove it.
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  Speaker 4: And now that they've given him permission anyway, you could
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  Speaker 4: make an argument, you know whatever, But I think it
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  Speaker 4: was orchestrated. I think that they had planned to meet there.
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  Speaker 4: It's too much of a coincidence to me that have
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  Speaker 4: he bumped into a guy whose team just gave him
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  Speaker 4: permission to seek a trade.
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  Speaker 3: So that this happened after they gave him permission.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying they've given him permission, and whenever
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  Speaker 4: it happened, it makes a big deal. No, But I'm
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  Speaker 4: saying it's a guy who is out there. Like I'm
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  Speaker 4: not saying whether or not it's a violation, Okay, Like
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  Speaker 4: I'm not here. I don't really care about tampering. To me,
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  Speaker 4: it should be allowed. I don't really understand why they
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  Speaker 4: have to all be treated like children. You can't talk
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  Speaker 4: to him, No, you go in the corner, you can't talk.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want people screwing with my players.
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  Speaker 4: But that whole thing is irrelevant to me. If you
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  Speaker 4: want to find the Raiders, find the Raiders, I don't
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  Speaker 4: you know, I don't care. But it's too like I
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  Speaker 4: am team Schultz because I think that it's unrealistic for
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  Speaker 4: this whole and I'm not telling you it never happens.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's even a story that when Matthew Stafford
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  Speaker 4: originally got traded to the Rams. He bumped into Sean
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  Speaker 4: McVay and Cabo that's true something like that. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: telling you it's impossible to have a chance meeting. To
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  Speaker 4: Alex's point, this is what rich people do in vacation.
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  Speaker 5: And maybe they did bump into each other, but Tom's
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  Speaker 5: not going to say, hey, I have a beautiful home here,
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  Speaker 5: come check it out, like come hang.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't think that it was an innocent meeting
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  Speaker 4: the way Rappaport tried to No, I think working for
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  Speaker 4: the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: To his sources, they probably wanted the narrative fix to
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  Speaker 5: avoid any penalty. And Schultz is the son of a
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  Speaker 5: billionaire and he's not beholden to anyone. He can say
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  Speaker 5: whatever is.
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  Speaker 4: The fact that he has that kind of juice, says No,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not just going to back down.
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  Speaker 3: So this this isn't over yet, right, would you say
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  Speaker 3: this has.
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  Speaker 4: A leg you might get round to with dunks to that.
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  Speaker 3: Just has legs, as they say in the media.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's what you have to do. That's why
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  Speaker 4: they were at Starbucks. So you can't actually have a
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  Speaker 4: physical confrontation. They got to go to dunks today.
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  Speaker 3: Right, that's where that's where you throw.
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  Speaker 5: Down all the security.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the most that can happen. At Starbucks you might
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  Speaker 3: get a croissant throw at you. But at duncan you
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  Speaker 3: throw down? You throw down for sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So I'll be curious to see what with Mike
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  Speaker 4: and Ev have to say today. Okay, all right, well
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  Speaker 4: that's interesting. I mean, it's an interesting NFL story too,
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  Speaker 4: like the Stafford thing. You know, the Raiders obviously, you
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  Speaker 4: know interested, A lot of people have talked about the
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  Speaker 4: Giants that you know this again back to the Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: It could impact the Patriots, the Giants one of the
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  Speaker 4: three teams that pick ahead of New England if they
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  Speaker 4: were able to swing a deal for Stafford. I personally
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  Speaker 4: think that Stafford is gonna end up staying with the Rams.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's probably some negotiation going on here, and
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  Speaker 4: they were, you know, the Patriots, Belichick did this occasional.
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  Speaker 3: I think that some teams that are really needing a
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  Speaker 3: quarterback might make an offer that McVeigh can't refuse. And
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  Speaker 3: they've got Garoppolo in the wings.
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  Speaker 4: The last part of that isn't meant to be serious,
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  Speaker 4: is it? Like they want to be a contender, Like.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they look at this year as a bridge year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, now they're going to go out and get like
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  Speaker 4: if you want to tell me, they're going to get
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  Speaker 4: Sam Donald. And McVeigh thinks that he's kind of like
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  Speaker 4: in that Shanahan mode where it's me not the you know,
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  Speaker 4: not the player. Yeah, I can make Donald. He just
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  Speaker 4: did it with Kevin O'Connell. That's basically what I'm going to.
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  Speaker 3: Do with him.
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  Speaker 4: He's good enough to do that. I can. You can
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  Speaker 4: sell me on you can't sell me on Garoppolo.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well anyway, but I think I think the Rams
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  Speaker 3: have kind of made it clear that we need to
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  Speaker 3: kind of build back up.
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  Speaker 4: They have.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well they were.
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  Speaker 4: They were eleven yards away from the NFC Championship, I know,
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  Speaker 4: but they're the only team that gave the Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: They Cold Cup. You know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's done. Okay, Stafford's not.
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  Speaker 3: But I think, well, no, he's not done. He's not done.
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  Speaker 3: But maybe they think they need to be aggressive in
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  Speaker 3: terms of kind of building back up and if we
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  Speaker 3: can get out King's ransom for this guy.
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  Speaker 4: But they're not going to get a Kings ransom. They
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  Speaker 4: don't want to pay him what he wants. He wants
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  Speaker 4: to be paid like the front line guys. Yeah, at
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  Speaker 4: fifty plus million. The numbers have changed.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: You know where guys like Trevor Lawrence are getting. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Tua are getting fifty million and he's I think he's
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  Speaker 4: getting thirty five.
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  Speaker 3: Some other team might be willing to do that.
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  Speaker 4: They might, Yeah, I think that they will then say, okay,
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  Speaker 4: we'll give you the money. Yeah, that's what I think
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  Speaker 4: they're doing. I think Belichick used to do this occasionally.
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  Speaker 3: I know, you go out and see what you can get, and.
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  Speaker 4: Then and then you go out and see what you
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  Speaker 4: can get. Okay, yeah that's reasonable, we'll give it to you.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they want to give it to him,
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  Speaker 4: but I think they will if they have to. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's my personal view of how they do that. They
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  Speaker 4: did it with kind of they did it with Dante
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  Speaker 4: stalwarth No, with Welker, they didn't really want him anymore. Really,
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  Speaker 4: they franchised him and they were pissed the year before
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  Speaker 4: that he signed it because they didn't want him to
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  Speaker 4: sign it. They wanted him to go. Then they wanted
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  Speaker 4: to trade him.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, I remember that they told him me, I'll
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  Speaker 3: go out and see what you can get. And they
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  Speaker 3: were a little pissed that he didn't come back to them.
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  Speaker 3: He just went to Denver, give me a chance.
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  Speaker 4: They said that they offered him the same, but they didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway.
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  Speaker 4: I want to say, it was like two years, twelve
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  Speaker 4: million or something like that, and claimed it was the same,
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  Speaker 4: but it was not the same.
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  Speaker 3: So I think this is relatively big news coming out
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  Speaker 3: of the combine, this whole Obdual Carter thing. Now he's
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  Speaker 3: got an issue with his shoulder but also his foot,
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  Speaker 3: and he's contemplating some type of surgery right now, and
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  Speaker 3: that could drop him down a little bit, if you know,
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  Speaker 3: if he's not ready right away. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like I say this all the time, I
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  Speaker 4: never underestimate the stupidity of NFL people. If that would
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  Speaker 4: drop him down where he's not going to be. He's
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  Speaker 4: gonna have surgery and be ready for OTAs and that's
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  Speaker 4: going to drop him.
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  Speaker 3: Oh is that what they're saying. Oh, I didn't hear that.
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  Speaker 4: That's you're right, No, you just you explain the whole
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  Speaker 4: story exactly the way it is. The people think that
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  Speaker 4: he's not I think even the odds. The draft dods
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  Speaker 4: have changed. I think he was he had the I
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  Speaker 4: think he had the best odds, and now he doesn't
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  Speaker 4: to go number one.
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  Speaker 3: Overall, like if someone was when I heard the store.
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  Speaker 4: Him number one overall and they're not going to take
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  Speaker 4: him because he has a stretch raker in his foot
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  Speaker 4: and he might miss two months, you know, heading into
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  Speaker 4: you know, his rookie season.
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  Speaker 3: That's when I heard this story. They didn't mention like
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  Speaker 3: how serious. You know, there's a difference between to me,
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  Speaker 3: surgery and a procedure. Like a procedure is something you.
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  Speaker 4: Go to a certain age. You'll have a procedure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you go in for a day and then you're
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  Speaker 3: it's day surgery, you know. Like a surgery to me
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  Speaker 3: is they put you under and you just have to
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  Speaker 3: stay a day or two or whatever and there's a
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  Speaker 3: longer rehab afterwards. If this is like you said, oh,
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  Speaker 3: he could be ready for OTAs or it's.
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  Speaker 4: Been explained to me, Yeah, that is that if he
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  Speaker 4: has the surgery, it's not expected to impact his season.
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  Speaker 4: It will impact his off season, but it won't impact
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  Speaker 4: like he should be ready to go for training camp
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  Speaker 4: and all that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean if that drops him the fourth take him.
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  Speaker 4: Now, wrap Aport Back to Wrappaport, I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: this is, you know, true, his his mouthpiece, of his
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  Speaker 4: NFL security mouthpiece says this or just from him, but
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  Speaker 4: he says that the word from the Carter camp is
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  Speaker 4: that he's not going to have surgery. He's going to
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  Speaker 4: opt to go through it. I'd be more worried about that,
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  Speaker 4: to be honest with you. Get it taken the surgery,
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  Speaker 4: get it taken care of him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, then first week of the season.
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  Speaker 4: But he says that's it's not it's not painful at
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  Speaker 4: all to him. And I don't know, maybe it was
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  Speaker 4: detected and it's something that could lead to something a
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  Speaker 4: stress stress fracture, which are hard to I guess how
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  Speaker 4: to diagnose and how to identify if you're not looking
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  Speaker 4: for it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's a hairline type of thing.
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  Speaker 4: So the fact that he says he claims he has
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  Speaker 4: no symptoms, that would kind of worry me. Yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it could impact his draft spot.
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  Speaker 3: And he's got a shoulder thing that now.
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  Speaker 4: That that happened, that happened during the season, right, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of guys dealing I think your boy, Mason
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  Speaker 4: Graham's dealing with stuff.
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  Speaker 3: He's only going to do bench press.
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  Speaker 4: They say, yeah, so you think of him yesterday he
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  Speaker 4: was at the podium yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I did not hear that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's probably just because I'm one hundred
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: years old now, Alex, they look like babies.
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  Speaker 5: They are babies.
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  Speaker 4: They're just like, he looks like a high school kill.
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  Speaker 4: You know, let's get the curly hair, curly hair like
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  Speaker 4: kind of looked a little like ye like has a
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  Speaker 4: pudgy high school weight on him, Like did he still
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  Speaker 4: have his EyeBlack on? But yeah, he was unimposing, let's
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: put it that way. For a guy who's going and
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: going to be a top.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Five posing like that didn't look you know, no, they.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Say, see it's it's little Andy hard issue of me.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Like Andy used to just Andy famously we would go
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: to the combine, the two of us, and he would
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: just look at a guy at the podium, agalin, no,
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: I'm out on him, including Patrick Mahomes by the way.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Well you know, he had like his backpack on and
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: like he looks like a little kid like that, I'm out,
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I'm out like now. Sometimes he would he ended up
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: being right, but that was the famous one. Patrick Mahmes.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I've heard solely on the eyeball test.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: I've heard Mason anywhere from six three to six two.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I think he's on the lower side. I think he's
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: going to come in at six two or so because
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: he doesn't look like.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: That's not a bad thing. No, they don't want a
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: really tall interior defensive lineman.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: It's not. And he's like three twenty five. Yeah, I
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: think he's well. I I like the guy. I think
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: he I mean I would production is. Yeah, I wouldn't
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: be excellent bent out of shape if they picked him
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: at four.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I wouldn't either, and us that dual.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Card is available. Yeah, yeah, which he shouldn't be. But
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see what.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: I think he's very much in play for the Patriots
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: at four. Mason Graham. Yeah, you know, we had an
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: email or that I think Astutey pointed out Mike Reeves
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: had a lot about Mason Graham and his Sunday notes
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: a lot of times. You know, Mike is tapped in. Yeah,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I think he's as connected as anybody who covers this team.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: So I don't just dismiss that he spent, you know,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: a significant amount of his notes on Mason Graham. I
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: think he's very much in play at four. Yeah, he's
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: one of your envelope guys. Right, you should be happy.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: No, he doesn't qualify as a back envelope. He's too good.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: He's too good, he's too obvious. It's like, well, yeah,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: friend's putting Mason Graham in the back of his envelope.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: Okay, he's in like a real notebook.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's like everyone should have him on
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: their list. These are guys that dig a little deeper,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: dig a little deeper, you do some mining and you
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: find those jewels in the mind. Yeah, but I haven't
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: got my books yet, so I can't really start. All right,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: what else is coming out of the combine that we
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: need to talk about?
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Combine?
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: But Godshaw, Yeah.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: That's a good one, good one, Alex, Why don't you
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: tell people what you're like?
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: They've given Devon Godshaw permission to go seek seek out
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: a trade.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: And that again is according to Ian Rappaport right, didn't
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: he was the first to leave with that. He's doing his.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: Work, I guess so. Feeling the heat from Schultz.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, security details for him.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: I can't believe the security thing.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: He's Maybe Albert Brier can confront him about this report.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: And I was the first one to but uh, poor Ian.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: They should sell tickets to a boxing.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Match, sure, and just have the media for charity fight
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: each other. Yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, people would tune into that.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, So we can spend uh can we spend
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: fifteen second patting ourselves on the back?
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Oh what do we do? Good?
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Just like you and I, Mike, you know, And we
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: were talking a lot about when since Rabel came came in,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: there are going to be players that you're not necessarily
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: expecting that will not be part of the future. And
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: there's a veteran defensive lineman who has been given permission
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: to seek a trade like this is the example of
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: the guys that I'm talking of.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Rabel said it the other day. This roster is going
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: to look a lot lot different at the end of
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: August than it does right now. So that's telling you
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: right right there. And we talked about it last show
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: that no one should feel that comfortable unless you're like
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Drake may or you know of that ILK.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: It's not just you know the guys that you think
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: you know that you know, like seonly Taki, Taki is
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: not going to be the only guy who was on
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: the contract. That is just going to be you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: let go. Now. There's a lot of speculation that Godshaw,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: like his style is a two gap sort of run stuffer,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: is not going to be conducive to what they want
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: to do with Terrell Williams. Yep, you know they want
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: to be more penetrating and get upfield. That might be.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: That might be true. I think it's more than that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I think it's you know, the sort of veteran guy
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: probably won't be part of the next really good team,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: pretty outspoken.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say that. He's also someone
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: who seems like the last couple of off seasons asking
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: for more money, restructuring contracts. I wonder if that was
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: a situation here where he came to them and they
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: were like, it's not going to happen here, but you're
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: welcome to go seek out a trade.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it wasn't it two seasons in a row
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: that they gave him a bump, I believe so.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I think they did.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this was the second last year was
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: the second season I know they.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Did last season. Then I remember I feel like something
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: when Bill was here too, because Bill had those comments
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: about how he was what we do.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Best offensive lineman in the league. And I would also
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: just look at the amount of times we heard from
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: him in a pretty blunt fashion last year, like I
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: wonder if Elliott Wolf was like this guy. He didn't really,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: he didn't do that much off the field to help
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: off the field. I think he was fine on the field.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, they couldn't stop the run, but I don't
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: necessarily blame Godshaw for the fact that they struggled stopping
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: their arm. I think he was reasonably good in his role,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: but it's not necessarily a difference making player. He was
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: often critical of either the coaching or the play within
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: the coaching maybe it wasn't conducive yet personnel.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: But then would defend coaching at the same time when
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: the year was done. So it was like, Yeah, is.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: The media in your shows making too much of who's
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: in charge for the Patriots.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I don't really know, because I think it's there's a
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: lot of speculation, you know when Elliott talked, because Elliott
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Wolf spoke yesterday and he said nothing has changed, you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: because he had the thing contractually that he had the
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: final say, but saying that he went to great lengths
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: to explain how it's not going to be Mike's guys,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: it's not gonna be Elliott's guys, that they're going to
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: be Patriots guys and we're going to be together.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Well to me with Rabel saying, I wouldn't have come
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: here unless I was comfortable in the input that I'll
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: have in the roster. That's all you need to know.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: He's okay with it, whateah, the job, Yeah, whatever they've
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: set up, Rabel's okay with it, and that could mean
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: that he's ultimately in charge. Like you can interpret that
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: any way you want, but as long as he's okay
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: with it, then like, let's not worry about it yet.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: So I would just yeah, I mean, it's not necessarily
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: a worry. It's it's like, who do you think has
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: the final say? And I would argue, I think it's Mike.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I think Rabel has the final.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: And Wolfe said, you know, nobody pushes no team. Well,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: he's being general and maybe he's not one hundred percent,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: but he said, no team pushes players on a coach
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: that they don't want.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: Right, Like in Moneyball when he's like, don't start this guy.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: You can't start him. I just traded him. Like it's
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's like that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, boy, there might be some places where that
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: actually has happened. I know. You know, we've heard about
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: situations where there's a disconnect between the coach and the
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: GM and it causes somebody to eventually leave one or
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: the other. But so I don't think that's one hundred
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: percent accurate all the time, but generally you have to
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: be on the same page.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Like if we take it back to the number four pick,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: if Mike Grabel says, under no circumstances, do I want
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Mason Graham, Yep, there's no way that Elliott Wolf is
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: saying no, no, no, no, Mason Graham's guy. If it's the
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: other way around.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I could see it, right. I could too.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: If Mike Grabel says I want Mason Graham and Elliott
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Wolf says no, no, no, no, he's not the right guy,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I could still see them taking Mason Graham.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Yep, because probably Rabel's gonna have Terrell Williams on his side.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: They've spoken about.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: It, and you're missing a guy in the personnel.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Department, Matt grow not only kidding.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I know Ryan and Cowt like I think, yeah, you
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: know that's your tie breaker. Now it's two on one ye, right,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: And there's a reason that Mike wanted to bring that
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: guy in. So speaking of the personnel department, they did
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: lose a member.
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Patrick Stewart start.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's going to the college.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: The College's going to the College the Nebraska. Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Matt Ruhle.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Was in Carolina when Patrick Stewart was there, so there's
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: a connection. I think they went back to Temple even
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: those two. So there's a relationship between Stewart and Rule
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: and now he's gone with the corn Huskers. All right,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: trying to think anything anything else, A little details. We
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: got a lot of like small little stories. The thing's happening,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: setting the table, Yeah, heating up, set the table.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Off season, heating up workouts begin today at the Combine.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: So who is it defensive lineman today?
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: I believe, I believe you're right. Yeah, And we won't
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: find out about Will Campbell's arms until the weekend.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Sunday, Yeah, Sunday morning. That's going to be like Grado
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Rivera opening up Jimmy, if you had a capon.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not telling you like I don't. I'm not Dante, Okay,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: So I'm not telling you that he can or can't
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: play depending on the size of his arms. I'm leaving
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: that to the professionals.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the ball knowers.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Right. If you had to say, do you think his
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: arms are the length that they they like them to be? Yes,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: See I say no.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I don't think it would be a conversation like this
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: it was.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: If his arms were long enough, we wouldn't be waiting
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: with Beata.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I think they're right there. I think they're probably right
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: at thirty three.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: My guess is they're not from a pull up bar
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: from somebody long Bobby Brady right before.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex doesn't know Bobby Brady, Bunch three bunch. Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: But like, like, I know, your show has gone at
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: length to talk about the length. But if he comes
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: in at thirty two and seven, a's I don't care.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: What does he look like on tape?
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean I don't care either, Fred, But I
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: that's why I preface it with what I'm not. Dante. Yeah,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Dante and those people they do.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Care, ye, But I don't think it's eighth of an inch.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm just telling you that's they think that that's
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: a big difference.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know an eighth of an inch.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you think there's a big difference between
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: a guy who runs at four or five and a
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: four to six. Nope, yes there is, Nope, there is.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: It's a little different though, because but it's long arms
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: but terrible grips.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: No. I know they think it. I just don't like.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: But I'm not the guy who's coaching them. Like, It's
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: not like I don't understand it as you absolutely put it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not a ball nower. Yeah, you know, they have
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: their reasons, but.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: The intene I mean, I think I think it's part
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: of the puzzle that you're putting together. But if if
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you're telling me that Jerry Rice shouldn't have been where
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: he was because he wasn't that fast, and your nuts.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's guys that just have football speed and
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: there's guys who have flat out, you know, flat line speed,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: And I'd rather take the football speed and the football
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: iq and all that other stuff than just the burn.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, for years, the Raiders were famous for always
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: taking the fastest guy how did that work out for them?
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: They won a lot.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: No, not when they were doing that. Not when they
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: were doing that, that was Cliff, Oh, this is I'm
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: talking about Jet and all those other guys after that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Well, how did it work out for us when we
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: took taekwon?
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Right? You know absolutely, that's a good example.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: But you're making different observations.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I'm talking. I'm saying a tenth of a you know, well, it's.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: Apples to oranges with the position groups too.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I think there's more to it than the forty yard dash.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: But yes, is he good? Like when the Raiders took
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: The Raiders took a guy who wasn't very good, like
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Darius Haywood Bay would be the example, right, and he's not.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: He's not a good He fell in love with his speed.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: But what if there's a guy who is good and
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: he has the speed for a guy who is good
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: and doesn't have.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: To course, they take the guy who has the speed.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: So don't say it doesn't matter.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't say.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying you creating.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Doesn't matter as much as maybe some other It matters
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: to other people today is how good is he? But
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: can he get open? And catch right.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: But can he not do that well enough at the
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: NFL level because of the speed, because of the arm length?
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Can he not protect us well?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: But you don't get open in a forty yard dash anyway.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I want that shuttle. I want the shuttle drill. I
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: want the cone drill. Yeah.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: Please, it's just hard to believe that there's a bunch
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: of scouts and personnel guys sitting around a table like
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: really sweating for this specific measurement. If it's off by
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: that much, I don't know.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Well, they have to come up with the things that
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: separate because so many of these guys are so close.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: They're looking for those little things that Okay, this this
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: gives him the edge over the other guy. But to me,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: edge good scouts that understand talent when they see it,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: and they can figure out the projection from the college
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: game to the NFL game.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: I agree. And if he and if Will Campbell ends
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: up getting taken in the top five, then that would
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: tell me that the scouts were comfortable with his play.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: If he doesn't, that would tell me that they think
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: he's probably going to be a guard. Yeah, and he's
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: going to drop a little bit yep. So, and I
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: don't know the answers to those.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know it, but it's going to be an
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: interesting draft. I think that the top five is really
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: nobody knows at this point.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that it's it's Codder and Hunter
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: in the top five, and I don't think there are
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: really anything else else that's guaranteed.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: But as you keep saying, and I agree with you
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: one thousand percent, they are gonna be good players taken.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: You just have to figure out which ones. Yeah, they're
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: better than the others.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: All right, eight five five PATS five hundred phone line
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: is the TPX hotline until March first podcast at Patriots
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: dot com is the email. Let's just open it up
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: because a little later we're gonna have Evan Induce calling
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: in from the combine and all these questions they're gonna answer.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: They're gonna have all the answers to all our questions
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: when they call it. So let's start on the phone line.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: We'll go to Maryland. Ryan's there. What's up? Ryan? Ryan? Okay,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: you can't hold on for twenty minutes? All right, Wow,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: We'll go to Dylan in California. Dylan, what's up? Dyllen,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: is it me? Okay, Dylan's Dylan, you're there? Okay, call back.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: We'll go to Montana. Chris, were you there when the
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: infamous meeting happened? What's up? Chris down?
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: And I was not there, but I bet I can
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: guess where it took place and that it wasn't an
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: innocent meeting.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: And why do you say that?
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: It's called the Yellowstone Club where all the rich guys
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: have houses, including Brady, and there's a private ski resort there,
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: so I'm sure that's where Brady hosted Stafford. But Stafford
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: doesn't just accidentally hand out end up there. You can't
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: possibly get in without one of the members getting you
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: onto the grounds, through all the security gates, all of
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: that stuff.
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: Okay, Interesting, this is my favorite part of what we
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: do because we've now taken it, like I can guarantee
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: you where we have no idea where the meeting was, Yeah,
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: but we now have it taking place at this private
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: club that you can't.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Get in right without knowing, do you know? And the
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: fact that Matthew Stafford in no way could possibly be
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: a member.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: Well, this is like like we're talking a different tax
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: bracket than Stafford if if it's I have the right idea.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's I don't think it's a different
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think tax bracket.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: I don't think there are many tax brackets. Matthew Stafford
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: has been like really was.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Probably made about four hundred million dollars in his career.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Now, I don't know about Brady and everything Brady, but
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Stafford does. All right, Chris, what were.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: You going to say.
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: I was going to say, Alex is kind of right.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: This is like, this is billionaire billionaire talking yeah, not millions.
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: So you have to like, you know, and this is
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: this is a little outdated now, but it's only gotten
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: more exclusive. But you know, initially, to like get a
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: place up there, you had to spend You had to
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: be able to spend at least like fifteen or twenty
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: million dollars on just the plot of land to buy
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: from the club. But even if you came up with
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: the liquid assets to do that, it had to be liquid.
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: It couldn't be investments. You had to apply and the
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: club can just say no because they don't meet your
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: standard or whatever.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now that that can happen, absolutely, Yeah, But I've
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: heard a lot of stories like that, but I.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Don't think it's beyond reason to have to think that
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Stafford wasn't invited by somebody there other than Brady. Is
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: that you know he could be for sure? Yeah?
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I think now we're really heading down to coincidences.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, so so you are familiar with this place, Chris,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: are you in that tax bracket?
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: I am most certainly not in that bracket. I'm an
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: emp so I don't make any money, but I have
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: skied there once. Okay, all right, we had my My
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: mom was a pastor and one of her members got
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: us in there. He was like one of the original
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: founders of Qualcomm.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the money I'm talking about, like anonymous
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: tech billionaire inventors that you never heard of.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like a whole world that we don't
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: even know about it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: There is trying to get into it, not to be
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: a host at this club or something or bartender.
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: I was going to say so one of the lifties
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: when when I went I noticed that her her last
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: name was Beheim and she was from Syracuse, New York.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: So I asked her.
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: I was like, you probably get asked this all the time,
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: but you're not related to like Jim Baheim.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Are you when she.
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: Goes, oh, yeah, that's my dad, and she goes, yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: nobody knows that up here, but you know she was taken.
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: She just finished college and was taking a couple of
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: months to just you know, pole around and go skiing
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: every day. So she ended up working as a lift
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: operator at this place. It's nuts, and I'm that's where
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: I think like Brady and Aaron Rodgers did like a
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: golf tournament up there, you know, the charity thing a
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: couple of years ago. That's where Brady used to get
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: all his his wide receivers together to throw summers. It's
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: it's crazy.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, well thanks for the insight.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Appreciate that's great, Chris.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: I'm going to need a montanai itinerary.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: What do you call it? Yellow jacket, yellow Stone Club,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Yellowstone Club.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just I mean it's it's very flawed. But
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: I just did a quick Google and Tom Brady's net
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: worth it says it's three hundred million, and Stafford's is
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty million. So we're not necessarily talking
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: about right at No, no, no, I'm just but I'm just
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: it's apples to apples, Yeah, like Matthew Stafford, but.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Tom Brady has the stature.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: That was the second part of what's for them to
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: have Tom Brady as a member.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: It was yes Stafford, and that I agree with. And
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: that was the second part of what Chris said that
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I really agreed with. You hear those stories with golf
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: clubs all the time. Well, look at like, I don't
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: care about your club.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: Wouldn't let Tom and Gisellen for a really long.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Time, couldn't get him in, right, because those are really
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: exclusive clubs and they can pick from anybody that has
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: the same kind of money you do.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Right. Uh, Dylan is calling back from California. What's up, Dylan?
• 35:58
  Speaker 10: Okay, So a lot of the trade talk has been
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: about trading back in the draft, but I know we've
• 36:05
  Speaker 10: talked about we're not going to get as much trade
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: value in this trade. So what about instead of trading back? Uh,
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: we stick at four, and we tried to trade back
• 36:14
  Speaker 10: up into the top ten and get like Tyler Warren
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: or even get Campbell if he's still there, with you know,
• 36:20
  Speaker 10: the eighth or ninth pick and having two top round
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: first picks. I know it sounds kind of crazy, but
• 36:25
  Speaker 10: the Texans did it a couple of years ago, as
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: j and Will Anderson.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: So thanks thoughts on that. Well, So what are we
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: trading to get into the top ten?
• 36:34
  Speaker 10: See, I look kind of into it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 11: I'm thinking, you know, next year's first, and I think
• 36:38
  Speaker 11: we necessarily have to give up a second this year.
• 36:41
  Speaker 11: We can give up a third round this year. So
• 36:43
  Speaker 11: the first and a third this Yeah, the first next
• 36:46
  Speaker 11: year and a third this year is kind of what
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: I'm thinking.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: I would not be interested in doing that in this draft.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to fall for the first round pick
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: next year to get another top ten pick in a
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: draft that is widely regarded as being poor.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, unless there's a guy they love for some reason.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think you have to give up too much.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: You know, if if you had if you already, if
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: you had two picks in the first round and you
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: were trading like the twentieth to get back into the ten,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I think you probably wouldn't have to give up next year,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: you know, like you could do that and give him
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: a third, But you know, having to give up next
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: year's first, you're gonna need that next year. But good thought, Dylan,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: thank you. Let's go to La, Christians in La. What's up? Christian?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Hey you guys?
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: How are you good?
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: And yet I am in that tax practical not in
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: the exactly, but the person I deal with in that
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: tax practice ins us being in the in the palace
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: date for the big disaster events. Okay, yeah, So that
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: back football. Is there anyone that you guys free agent?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Why would Jay we would give away our the first
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: year to just get this player without a pick along
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: with them?
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: So is there anyone free agent worth giving up our
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: first round pick? Four?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say Miles Garrett.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Miles Garret would be the only guy. Yeah, I
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: would try. I would. I mean, if you wanted Miles
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Garrett and you you know he's good enough to give
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: up the fourth overall pick for. He's still young enough
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: and he's obviously productive enough.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Is there anyone that you'd be willing to give up
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: a first round pick in a trade?
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: And well, that's you'd have to trade for Miles.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Well, I assume Christian, you're talking about guys that are available, right, Like,
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: obviously I would. I would give that up for Patrick
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Mahomes too, but that's not not available.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I think Drake May's better play.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you do.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is DK Metcalf and that that rangey guy?
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, I give up.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I would trade a second round pick for DK Metcalf,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: though interested in that maybe a third, second or third.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't give up a first round pick for DK
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: met Let's.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Let's just say, I know this isn't happening because they're
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: just they're going to make him the richest guy other
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: than the quarterback. But Jamar Chase, would you give up
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: this year's first round pick? Yeah?
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: That's why I said, guys that are realistically.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Available, right, He's not realistically event.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Miles garrett Is thought he wants out right, So I
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: think Christian I agree. I would. There's not a lot
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: of guys that I would want to trade the fourth
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: overall pick for YEA that are available? Right?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: You know who would you guys wrestle away from a
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: team like right now, we're on the cups of T
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Higgins being someone that we're trying to, I guess negotiate.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I would assume that we're trying to negotiate with Cincinnati
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: behind both doors to see those form Is there anyone
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: else in that position that you guys would all, you know,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: would wrestle away from the team.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Well, according to Chad Graff, we're not in the T
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Higgins sweepstakes.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: And you know, I mean, I know that it does happen,
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: but I hope they're not publicly doing that because you
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: can get in trouble for that.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't talk to.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: No, not right now.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Unless they gave him permission to go seek a trade. No,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: you cannot.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: If romocrats down with the owner of they can't talk
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: about players.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, you can talk owner to owner, you could talk.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: No, you can't talk about players.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: You can't talk to his agent. You can't talk to
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: the player about the player.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: You can't talk to Mike Brown about T Higgins. Well,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: he's on the other team. He's on another team. I know. Now,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I'm not a child. I understand that that happens, right,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: But technically that's tampering until the legal tampering period in
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: early March.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because now you're getting a head start on the
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: other teams right now. That's Christian question.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: Christian's right, I mean, that's what's happening now. You know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: like these guys are you know, the coaches, the agents,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: they're talking to the other teams there. This is how
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: you find you don't in the legal tampering period happened.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: I think it's March eighth to tenth or something like that.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: When that happens, there's a reason why as soon as
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: that period opens.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Everything happens.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: You get all the tweets like so and so was
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: agreed in the structure of a four year, one hundred
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: and twenty million dollar deal because they found out what
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: it's gonna take to get Fred Kirsh to sign on
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: the dotted line. And so I'm not like again, I'm.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Not what do I need to do to get you
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: in this car today? Oh?
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Give it to me for free? About it?
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Good tires, a little.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Bit, ye, good stuff? All right. We got a lot
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: of emails coming in.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Wow, don't you read them?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: I didn't get you Tolive. You always laugh when I
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: say that I was expecting it.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: Today.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Let's see Alex and Raleigh. He says, no surprise, Paul
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: didn't find a lane attractive in Seinfeld. He has a
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: type and that type is j Lo.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: It's true, that's that's kind of fair.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: And Elaine is not Jalah.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: And just so you know, like I didn't like find
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: her unattractive. I told you was she kind of looked
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: like my sister?
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I couldn't really look at it that way. I guess
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: it's a compliment to my sister. Yeah, was attractive, you know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: like that's creepy.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Was she older or younger than you?
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Younger?
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Younger? Yeah? How much?
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Five years?
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Oh wow? Okay? Did you have to keep guys away
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: from her? Were you, like the bigger brother?
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: And my brother did a better job of that than
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: I did, But yes, I can't imagine. It was a
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: whole lot of fun coming to the parolole house.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Was it two older brothers and the youngest sister? Yeah,
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: it's a dynamic.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: So I do have a story if you want him.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure the limitations might be up. She had
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: a boyfriend in high school and he was he was
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: kind of a he's kind of a jerk. He didn't
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: do anything wrong per se, like, not like he was
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: abusive or anything. I don't want to make it sound
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: like that, but he kind of was bothering her a
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: little bit. And then he had an the girlfriend, you know,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: after they broke up, okay, and the girlfriend was harassing
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: my sister. Seriously, she kept like driving by the house.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: So my brother went outside and she she had the
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: guts to stop. Uh, do you know what Jen Perillo lives.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: My brother punched the window of the car, shattered it.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I never saw her again.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Wow, he just went boom. Who wants to know? Boom
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: was like Fred Kirsh. So Mike punched in the back
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: window of a car.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: So my aunt told me a story about my father
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: when he was like a teenager. He was protective of
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: his sister who was younger, and she said there was
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: one time where she was going to date this guy
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: for the first time and he was gonna come over
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: and pick her up. And so my father and his
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: friend brought their weights to the front room. So as
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: soon as this guy came in the door, it these
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: two guys like lifting weights and we're gonna be at
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: the gun clad by the front door. So this guy
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: had a light. That's the first thing he saw when
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: the door opened.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: You know, some curls in the foyer.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my brother was definitely worse with that than I was.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: But I can't imagine it was a lot of fun.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: That one's funny because it just shows me that and
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: the entire history before social media, new girlfriends were always
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: stalking the ex girlfriends and nothing has changed.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, And like at the time, my sister
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: couldn't have cared less about the guy anymore. It's not
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: like she was trying to get him back.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: No, that's how it is. But your sister is probably
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: the one that got away, and the new girlfriend understood that.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: I can really.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Fast forward about twenty five years. I've actually been in
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: that kid's company because he lived not too far away
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: from where I am, and the kid was I think
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: I coached his kid in elementary basketball.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Interesting, we kept him on the bench. Alex goes on
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: play onto the Patriots depending on measurables. I think Will
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Campbell could be a great addition for the team to
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: protect Drake. Are you all concerned that there are too
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: many holes to plug this year to rebound? Do we
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: have only thirteen holes to plug like the Commanders did?
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Or do we have way more?
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Like? Do you mean like? What do you mean like
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: is the Commanders the example of rebounding? Yeah, because I
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: say no, but I'm saying is that you're only like,
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: I think you could win six or seven games, and
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: I think that would be a perfectly suitable rebounding right, Like,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: I just want to I just want to improve. Yeah,
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: I want to get pieces in place.
• 45:37
  Speaker 12: That you know what I'm saying, No, but just like, Okay,
• 45:41
  Speaker 12: they got those three players that are in their mid
• 45:44
  Speaker 12: twenties that I think will be good players for them
• 45:47
  Speaker 12: for the next three years.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: The way we feel about they didn't get.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Any of those last year. You know, other than Drake
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: May like, who do you feel really good about that
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: they acquired last year? Right, other than Drake May like
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: whether it be Raft Pooper, but he's now a free agent. Right,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: This is my point, Like, they didn't sign a twenty
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: five year old guy who really contributed. Like if Antonio
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Gibson or Hooper was like a twenty five year old
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: guy on a that we signed to a five year contract,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I'd say, Okay.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Those are guys, so that's they built a lot.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Those are hiss right, you know, that's all That's all
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: I'm looking for for improvement, and I think they could win.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: You know, the schedule right now is really really light,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: and if they button things up.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Don't make that mistake, Paul, judging a schedule before it's playing.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: I know, and you taught me well, and I try
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: not to do that. Everybody thought last year's schedule was
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: going to be hard. It wasn't right. But I do
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: feel like the pieces are in place if they can
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: make some good moves and improve a couple of things
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: and stop, as Mike said so many times, and is
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: learn how to take advantage of bad football. Yep, not
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: be one of those teams that does the bad PA
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: that allows the other team to win naked win six
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: or seven games.
• 47:03
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Floyd and Redford, Michigan. Please let Alex know she's been
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: dressing sharp and I mention it on the show. But
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I did compliment Alex when she came in the pants.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: The shoes, my coat last week.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: The sweater, the whole stepped it up. Even the hair
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: clip in the.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Back public just Abercrombie and Fitch.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Clip in the back.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: The hair clip I think, I think goes with the whole.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: The hair sip in the back. Yeah, she's like embarrassed.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: No, I think that. Yeah, you got to put together today, girl.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Thanks guys, it means more coming from.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: You, should. I don't throw around these compliments.
• 47:42
  Speaker 14: Like t me.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: I hear how you talked to Paul about his ensembles,
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: so I don't.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I got on. I got on Chris Cassidy yesterday for
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: wearing his cat backwards.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: Grow up to tease a little. For the newsletter, I
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: did a poll of some female employees here about the
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: backwards hot things.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Sokay, we'll get that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Oh that's good. You know what my plan was, And
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: as usual, I come up with these random thoughts when
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: I'm driving, you know, of course to and from.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I was good.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: I was gonna come onto the show today, put my hat,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: and of course I.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Forgot hill you're wearing.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Andy.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Bill and Albuquerque. Rights In guys, my good friend, also
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: a Patriots fan, was one of the first people to
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: get a place at Yellowstone, and I was fortunate enough
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: to celebrate my birthday there last year. The club is nuts.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: It's pretty easy to bump into a celebrity because there
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: are very few people in the mountains there that are
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: There are trail runs where you see no one.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: So that's awesome, that's you know, it's so a great
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: call that Chris in Montana. That was a great call.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Former intern Rocky rights in no way, Yeah, yeah, no way, yeah.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Rocky who went from here to Playboy an editor at Playboy,
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: So he says, they say that a tie is like
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: kissing your sister. Though perhaps on this draft, Rocky too nice,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: taking tie would be like kissing Paul's sister. Tyler Warren,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: former intern Rocky says, ps fun fact, the Patriots are
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: one of nine NFL teams to not tie since the
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: advent of overtime in nineteen seventy four. Is that true?
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: We haven't had a tie, and.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: We haven't had a tie since overtime. I did know that.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: I didn't know how many teams there were. But Rocky,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: it's great to hear from you. I thought you were
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: going to make a really inappropriate remark about my sister.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and me. Let's see, my.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: Brother used to say that all the time, saying, tis
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: like you, it depends what your sister looks like.
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, what state you live in?
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that probably has I'm gonna be nice,
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: different connotations in different areas of the country. Back, I
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: thought we had a lot of emails. We do you
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: already like.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: A anything like that.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: There's so many I can't you know. I need some
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: help with you need you need food? I need some
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: that I do. But I need somebody to go through
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: the email say this is a good one, this is
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: a good you know, yeah, work on that. Let's see
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: CJ's and case. What's up, CJ?
• 50:18
  Speaker 15: Hey, Okay, hey, I wanted to ask you since you
• 50:22
  Speaker 15: brought up this year's draft, you know, being generally a
• 50:27
  Speaker 15: bad overall draft, would you guys be interested in potentially
• 50:33
  Speaker 15: trading out of the fourth overall pick this year with like,
• 50:37
  Speaker 15: you know, a team that be looking to move up,
• 50:39
  Speaker 15: like the Saints or something like that to build for
• 50:43
  Speaker 15: next year's draft, because I do think there's gonna be
• 50:46
  Speaker 15: some top end talent in next year's draft. And full disclosure,
• 50:49
  Speaker 15: I'm in a higher States band and I would love
• 50:51
  Speaker 15: for Talb Downs or Jeremiah Smith or both of them
• 50:54
  Speaker 15: to be in a Patriots and uniform next year. So
• 50:56
  Speaker 15: just wanting to get your thoughts about that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, so what you're saying. The first thing though,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: is I think Paul and I agree that the top
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: half of this draft is not great. But I think
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: that the draft overall isn't that bad. It's there's good
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: players to be found in this draft. But to what
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: you're saying, I mean, I wouldn't rule it out.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't rule that out either, right. I
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: like the thought it's not supposed to be a very
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: good draft. If if Jeremiah Smith, by the way, we'll
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: have to spend two more years at Ohio State on
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: the CJ, I'm not a background not positive on that.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: Maybe he red shirted his first year so he might
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: know me.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: But overall, if I can pick up an extra first
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: round pick next year and maybe some other picks later
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: in the draft this year, I'd be willing to look
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: at that. Well.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: I think that what he's proposing is to get a
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: first round pick next year, not necessarily like a pick swap,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: so you lose that fourth pick, but you get extra
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: picks in the future.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: You would lose the fourth pick.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: I think they need players. I think you need to
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: find some players, Like at some point you need you know,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: like there's a lot of talk about like all the
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: different like DK Metcalfs, some people. You know. I listened
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: to one of my shows in the morning. Fred Toucher
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: is very against those kinds of guys because you know
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: the cliche of those you're not ready for those guys yet. Well,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: at some point you just have to find a way
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: to get good players that are going to help you
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: get better and whether to hear the next time you're
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: competing for a title or not. You need guys to
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: improve your overall talent level, and I think at some
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: point you need to use some of these draft picks
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: and you need to hit on.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: So if you were offered a Ferrari or a Porsche
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: or something high end car for no money, would you say, no,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: I can't take it yet because I don't have a garage,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: or would you just take the car and I worry
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: about the garage.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Let's take it now. Would you take a fifteen year
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: old Ferrari?
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: I would take an old Porsche?
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that would be the more accurate thing, you know.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Would you take an old one that might be on
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: its last legs if you weren't prepared to maintain it now?
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: But that's kind of what the argument is on, like
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup or you know guys like that. Right now,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: I think you can make an argument for or against
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: a lot of these guys, but that's more along the
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: lines of what we're talking about. Brand new Yeah, I
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: would not turn down a brand new car because I
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: don't have a garage for it.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: Well, in a different situation.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: You need a car.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Chris is in New Hampshire. What's up, Chris?
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: I'm almost think, hey, can you.
• 53:38
  Speaker 16: Don't hear me?
• 53:40
  Speaker 13: Oh?
• 53:40
  Speaker 16: Hey, yeah, I got two sneaky needs for the Patriots.
• 53:44
  Speaker 16: First one is I think a free safety would really
• 53:47
  Speaker 16: helps allow Dugger and Peppers.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: It's a huge need the best. Yeah, it's a huge need.
• 53:54
  Speaker 16: I've heard someone's name free agency because we talked about
• 54:00
  Speaker 16: And the other sea you need is a pre and
• 54:03
  Speaker 16: postgame show host.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, thanks, Javon Holland. I think is the safety
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: you're probably thinking about in free agency. But I think
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: that is a significant need. They have a lot of
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: the same kinds of guys, and I'm not even sure
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: how many of those guys will be back back. Did
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: they have box, physical, box run support safeties. They don't
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: have a lot of cover safeties.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: I know he's not a safety as a linebacker, but
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: any interest in Harold Landry.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would take care of Madrid as an edge rusher, Yeah, absolutely.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: I would too. Eldred is in North Carolina, a.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: Guy, by the way, that's been given permission to seek
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: a trade, which is why you brought them up right
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: it's up Eldred.
• 54:46
  Speaker 14: What of Fred?
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: All?
• 54:49
  Speaker 14: All right, biggy, I'm doing pretty good. Hey question. Uh
• 54:54
  Speaker 14: listen to Evan and Bark the other day on a
• 54:58
  Speaker 14: risk not restricted but coming up soon. Would you give
• 55:04
  Speaker 14: a three but Garrett Wilson.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: From the Jets, a third round pick for Garrett Wilson?
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, Are you kidding me? Of course I would.
• 55:14
  Speaker 14: There was there was an organism, they might maybe a
• 55:17
  Speaker 14: second or third. But like I said, if I get
• 55:19
  Speaker 14: him for a third.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: I might even give him a second.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, I would give him a second. The Jets not
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: not going to do any of this, right, But yes,
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: I would do this, Yeah, yeah, I mean.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: He was a top five pick and he's hit, Yeah,
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: and he has production on terrible team.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: He's he's hit as a top five pick. They're not
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: going to give him away for a third round pick, right, Yeah?
• 55:41
  Speaker 14: According to them, they might because he was third, came
• 55:44
  Speaker 14: back and then him and well Rock quarterback then didn't
• 55:47
  Speaker 14: mesh that well.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: And yeah, well but yeah, I mean I respectfully disagree
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: with them.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Eldred, I'd give a second for him
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: in a heartbeat, but the Jets aren't going to do that.
• 56:00
  Speaker 14: At four four get Campbell and put him outside of
• 56:04
  Speaker 14: the tackle.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: And by the way, Garrett Wilson did not miss a
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: game last year or the year before. So I don't
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: know where they getting he was hurt and he came back.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know what. Like Garrett Wilson's played in seventeen
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: games all three seasons. He hasn't missed a game because
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: of the injury.
• 56:20
  Speaker 17: Yet, not yet.
• 56:23
  Speaker 14: I don't know what they got it from.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: But it's just the typical Patriot thing. Like the other
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: all the other guys that are good around the league,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: they don't want to give their players to the Patriots enough.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: He might have come out of a game because it
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: was banged up, but he's he's played in every game.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: And you know, and I know it was a horrible situation,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: but he still cut one hundred and one passes last year.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: He's had for eleven hundred yards and seven touchdowns career.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Hoirible team with bad quarterbacking.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Career highs in all three of those categories. One on
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: one for eleven four and seven touchdowns. Yeah, it's funny.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: One more yard than he had his rookie year.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: I would take him.
• 56:58
  Speaker 14: Probably no way.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't see them, thanks, Aldrick.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: I don't see them wanting to trade him to the
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: Patriots anyway.
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: They might get to the point where they just feel
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: like if he's demanding to be out and they want
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: to just say, well, we want to get something for him,
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: they might do something like that. But I just can't
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: see them wanting to give him to the Patriots unless
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: the Patriots really overpaid for him.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Yep, let's see Tim Wright sin I've noticed that whenever
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: someone calls into the show and asks how everyone's doing,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Paul emits a barely audible, dejected meh.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: That's accurate.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: The meh is never addressed and is often drowned out
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: by other voices, but I always hear it. He's been
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: responding this way to this question for years. What's got
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Paul so down is that the impending college tuition? Does
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: he miss Andy? Does he think unlike Mike miss being
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: twelve and four? And in the AFC Championship game every
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: year they say many doesn't buy money, doesn't buy happiness.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Fred throw the guy a raised to boost his spirits,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: would you?
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Who is this?
• 58:01
  Speaker 17: Uh?
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Tim?
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: It's my favorite guy.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Paul buddy, if you ever need to talk, I'm here.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Are you a therapist by any time? Because I would
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: get one if I could afford one.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Insurance we haven'tsured.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: I know there's payments involved in that that I don't have.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: You do, Oh, I beg to differ.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: I need therapy.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: PS. Since I'm talking, since I'm taking shots at Mike,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: I want to address a befuddling take that Mike had
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: during the season, which was that he would have preferred
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: not to be stuck with the first overall pick in
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: this year's draft. Mike, do you still feel the same
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: way now that the Patriots will likely miss out on
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: your beloved abdul Carter.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: That wasn't a odd take by Mike. I kind of remember.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: I think it was a pregame show.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Well, he fold he's sick of twelve and four seasons. Yeah,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, has he's had odd takes? Yeah?
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well have to ask him. I don't think it
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: was the disaster that it's made out to be that
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: they lost that pick in the last game of the year.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: But I would certainly rather have the opportunity to take
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Abduel Cotter or a Travis Hunter right now without having
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: to worry about what's happening ahead of them, right? Would
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: you agree with that? For you're not paying attention to me.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Going to the emails? This is why? What did you say?
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: I would rather be in a position where I could
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: get abdul Cotter or Travis Hunter without worrying about whoever
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: whatever to control your face. I don't think it's a
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: huge deal. I don't think it's like a set the
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: organization back because they won that game kind of a deal.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: The way people have sort.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Of just there some people that are really really and they're.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: Still upset about it.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep, there might be people inside this building.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: My buddy Jim Murray talks about it all the time
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: on my show.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Now there's someone who needs to talk to somebody's funny, well,
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: probably everybody on that show does.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: That'd probably be a good radio just bringing the therapist
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: for each of them.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Let's see Joshua just email of praise. I like those.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: He's from Amarillo, Texas.
• 59:59
  Speaker 18: Uh.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Now that we're halfway through the decade, I'd love to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: know who you think should be on the Patriots All
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Decade Team of the twenty twenties. I also want to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: express my gratitude to everyone's hard work. I stumbled upon
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: this podcast while researching for Brady's Hall and Fame induction
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: last year, and I'm so thankful for the podcast and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: all the work you do. So who should be on
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: the Patriots All Decade Team of the twenty twenties?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: It's a fantastic question.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Where twenty twenty five and one?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: I have no idea.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: It's not a very lofty list.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: No, So twenty twenty would be the first year? Yeah
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: to now, so you're talking about five years?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: So the year after Brady left? Right? Oh?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Man, Like, who are the holdovers?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Do we have one year with Brady on it?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: That would be nineteen nineteen? Was this last year? Okay?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: So had Edelman, mccordy, and Slater still around.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: I mean I guess, I guess you put Devin on it.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Not Edelman, he did nothing in twenty twenty. Judon would
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: probably be on it, Okay, I mean Dougger Godshaw would
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: probably be on it. Dougger.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: I mean you have to fill the team. So yeah, yeah, I.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: Mean you have to pick twenty two guys, right.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Right, Kobe Myers, who's.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: The Kobe Myers receiver?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: Could call Alex probably Remandre.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but Hunter, Hunter, Hunter, Henry Yeah.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's slim pickings, ye, Michael Lewenu yep. David Andrews, yep.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: But it's you know, you put Drake May on there. Yeah,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I would, Yeah, I would.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: Drake May's ten games are better than anything. So someone
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: that's interesting. Someone asked me a question on Twitter who
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: had the better rookie year, Mac or Drake May.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Have to be fair, Mac did, Yeah, I went with
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: Drake May.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: A lot of people that despite Max's success, were just never.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: In on him.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: Well that would be me.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: But well again, I know a lot of people and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: people like trust with their opinions.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I think when you say success you have to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: put it in quotes, right, because I think it was
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: it was fabricated, it was they coddled in the first half,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: second half he declined because he needed to do more.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's also how you just how you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: define success. And you know a lot of people, you know,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: like the Felgers of the World school Board. I'm a
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: slave to the school Board. He won ten games, Okay,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think that he won ten games, right, He
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: didn't lose, he was he was the quarterback of a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: team that won ten games. I don't think he won
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: really any of them. Right now, you could make the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: argument like, well, for all that Drake May did, he
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: won one game. Right as a starter and finisher, he
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: won one game. I would just look at it and say,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: watching the quarterback play, Drake May was better. He was better,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: but he then Mac John's success. He had not nearly
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: as much to work with. It was asked to do
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: way more. To your point, he wasn't coddled, and he
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: was asked to do everything for a team that had
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: virtually nothing.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: Ye, you just had so many comebacks to where even
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: if we didn't ultimately win, he would lead a drive
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: at the end of the game when we were down.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: And if we were down with Mac.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: Only if you were down multiple scores, not if you
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: were within one score.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: Regardless, there was times where I was like, this game,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: we have a chance. And I've never felt like that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: down with Mac.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I and that Yeah, I mean it was
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: and I don't really know what precipitated it. Someone on
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: Twitter just reached out, I think it was yesterday and
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: just said, you know, what are your thoughts on that?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: It's a good question.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: It wasn't good. It was a really good question.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: I thought about it for a couple had a better
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: rookie season. I do know.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's I'm not arguing with you
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: on It's not something I would like, you know, get
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: on die on that hill. I just feel like, if
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: you're just strictly judging the quarterback play, how this guy
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: played and how this guy played, I think that I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: agree with now that the numbers won't back that up, right,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: throw more picks. They didn't win any games.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Yep. Will writes in about Evan and the criticism in
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: an email from Tuesday. Yeah, he's a bit stiff and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: pretty set in his opinions, not exactly fitting for his age,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: which is kind of funny since he dresses and styles
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: himself as an older guy. And yeah, he's not the
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: most open minded when it comes to the world. And
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: let's be real, his food takes are a disaster boneless
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: wings and that recent post about the best chicken parmesan
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: as an Italian, all I could say was, Mama Mia. No,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't see that post. But he's a huge asset
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: to pu. He's the perfect counterbalance to Paul with their
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: playful back and forth and his more detailed approach to
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: football brings a really interesting perspective to the show, especially
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: for Europeans who don't grow up with football. There's a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: lot to learn from him. And it's Catch twenty two
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: with Alex must listen for every Patriots fan, just like pu.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: So there's a defensive of.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: I like the defensive of Evan. Was the chicken a
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: five minute pretty amble of these.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: Are all his quirks, but no, the chicken parm thing
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: was he took Jess out for her birthday to the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: day before Valentine's Day and give a shout out to
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: the Italian restaurant afterwards. And this is on him because
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: it was probably a delicious chicken palm. However, he uploaded
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: a picture of his plate and it was super dark.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: It was like not great composition, Like it wasn't the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: best food photo. So then his Twitter followers were just like, Okay,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: that's not good, Evan.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on taking pictures of your food
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: and posting it?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: I hate it. But like my son would say, phone
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: eats first, that's his you know, that's what the kids do.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: I have albums on my phone. Yeah, they look at
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: my Instagram story from get the.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Meal, and the first thing they do is they take
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: a picture of the and then they tweet it out.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: I never get it.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: I mean meat balls last night.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: I don't care what you're eating, and.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: I posted it on my Instagram.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: I don't even care if you want to tell me like, oh,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: I had I went out to dinner last night. I
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: had this great chicken parm that's spot Like, why do
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: you have to take a picture.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: Of like I can see like if you like spent
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: three hours in that kitchen yesterday and then you know
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: the finished product, you took a picture. But if you
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: go out to a restaurant, why do you need to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: take a picture of the plate that you just got
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: put in front of you?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: Does the Italian to proof did you make that?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: But I can't approve based off site. This is my
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: whole point.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what if it tastes like crap?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: It's delicious? Yeah, so anyway, eat with your eyes too. Yeah,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: that's why presentation is so important restant.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: I do think presentation is important, But you can't just
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: judge how good something is look.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: But it sets you up, like if it looks really good,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: you trick your mind into it and you get disappointed psychologically, right.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: Then you get disappointed.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: You could be you could be Carly writing in. My
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: husband goes by Ian from Virginia when he calls her emails.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: He's a huge fan of your podcast and of course
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: the Patriots. He listens to your podcast live every Tuesday
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: and Thursday and episodes every day. His birthday is today,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: February twenty seventh, and would love to if you could
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: wish him a happy birthday from his wife Carly from
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Virginia on the episode.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: So happy birthdayesay, mister Christy jan somebody knocks one.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's another. You can't come in this way, So
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: happy birthday, Ian. So actually I got this email last
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: week and I was really good to keep it under
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: wraps until the correct day. Oh wow, Like I was
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: thinking all week, I'm gonna screw this up. I'm going
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: to read it on Tuesday and it's not going to
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: get it right day, Ian in Virginia. But happy birthday, Ian,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: from your wife, not from us. Rude. Yeah, all right,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: we'll take a break. My foods here will be right
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  Speaker 20: Hello everyone, Hello, Welcome to another combine. It's great to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 20: be back here Indianapolis. This is my thirty first combine.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 18: You know started coming here.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 20: In nineteen ninety four when I was eleven years old,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 20: so you know, it's really cool to see how this
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 20: thing is has developed and grown in a lot of ways.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 20: You know, it's been really cool and rewarding so far
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 20: working with coach Rabel.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 18: He has a lot of great ideas of vision for.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 20: The team, you know, an effort that we're all working together.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 20: He's met with the scouts, he's met with me, he's
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 20: met with everybody and just kind of it's all authentic
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 20: and genuine, and it's really good to see just how
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 20: he's developed and how we're all going to develop this
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 20: thing together moving forward.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 20: That being said, you know, last season, ultimately the roster
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 20: was on me. We were four and thirteen, just just
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 20: didn't get enough done. Certainly, the free agency class didn't
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 20: live up to our expectations, you know, the draft class,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 20: you know, it's it's too soon to tell, but we
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 20: were expecting a bigger impact from some of those guys,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 20: and we're still hopeful that they'll get to that point.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 20: We're excited about Drake May, we're excited about working with
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 20: coach Rabel, and you know, everything that we're doing is
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 20: to improve this football team and getting to where we
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 20: need to go. The fans understanding their frustrations. I share
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 20: those frustrations. It's been difficult. Every you know, every hit
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 20: on Jacoby or Drake during the season, you know, I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 20: felt responsible for that. Just ultimately, we didn't we didn't
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 20: get enough done up front. The game has always won
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 20: on the lines, offensive line, defensive line, not just because
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 20: of the Super Bowl.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 18: It's always been that way.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 20: And you know, ultimately, you know, just didn't do enough
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 20: to improve the roster to get it to where we
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 20: need it to be. So that being said, again, just
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 20: really excited about coach Rabel in the direction and vision
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 20: that that he's provided and working together with these guys
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 20: and getting this thing going. Yeah, I mean, it's it's
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 20: a it's an advantageous position. I'd say there's maybe less
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 20: clarity this year about what's gonna happen in front of us.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 20: But you know, there's some good players available, and we're
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 20: open anything. We're open to moving down, we're open to
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 20: moving up, We're open to sitting there and picking just
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 20: you know, whatever whatever the case may be in terms of, uh,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 20: you know, making the team better.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 18: We're trying to.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 20: Absolutely, Yeah, I think I think it's I think it's
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 20: it's definitely advantageous to try to build that roster out
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 20: and get as much as much as we can, whether
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 20: that's middle class to the roster or upper class. You know,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 20: there's only so many you know, Elie free agents, and
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 20: you know there's probably twenty seven teams looking at those guys. Certainly,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 20: we feel like we're more attractive destination this year than
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 20: we were last year, and you know, we're excited to
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 20: fill those to fill the roster out and get the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 20: depth and you know, get to where we need to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 20: be so we can use that pick on the best
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 20: player available.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: Who had the final Say, you said it's a collaborative effort,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: but at the end, to me, what's the scenario this year?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: Is it still that way?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 18: Yeah, it's similar.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 20: You know, I would just say, like listening to coach Rabel,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 20: like there's not a lot of gms or you know,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 20: people in my position in this business that are are
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 20: going to force players on coaching staff. Certainly, the best
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 20: decisions are made together, and you know, get to continue
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 20: to work with Mike and Ryan and Stretch and the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 20: scouting staff, you know, Richard Miller, everybody to make those
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 20: decisions the best we can for the team.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: You're a recruiting pitch is going to revolve around Drake.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 20: May you know, offensively quite a bit, but defensively as well.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 20: You know, Drake showed tremendous improvement throughout the season. There's
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 20: still you know, plenty of room to grow, but you know,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 20: having that guy in place is paramount to our success
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 20: and we're really excited about.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 18: The future that that he can bring to our organization.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: Look at Travis Hunter and how much can he potentially
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: play on both sides of the ball in the NFL.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, Travis Hunter is a tremendous prospect.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 18: You know, as a number of these guys are.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 20: He's He's obviously been very unique when the Heisman Trophy
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 20: playing both ways. He's he's really unique and instinctive at
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 20: both positions. So I think I think there's a scenario where,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 20: you know, he's probably gonna major in one and minor
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 20: and the other, but I think there's a scenario where
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 20: he could play both ways.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 21: Football plans keep has chieved so much and evolved different
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 21: sable with nil money, with transfer portals, with guys playing longer,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 21: with more people you can talk to, you to evaluate these guys,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 21: do you see a distinct group of guys that might
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 21: be more nflready because they're more seasoned.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I think I think every case can be different.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 20: You know, certainly the information that we can get, you know, now,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 20: instead of getting one information from one school and one
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 20: pro liaison, a lot of these guys have transferred two,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 20: three times, so we're getting information from you know, three
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 20: different places, from their high school coaches, three different strength coaches.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 20: So you know, just the information flow is better and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 20: we feel more convicted than the information that we receive.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 20: You're not going to be you know, you're not going
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 20: to want to force any players on on Mic or
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 20: the coaching staff.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 18: Just to clarify, do you have final say on the
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 18: fifty three man roster?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 20: Ultimately it's it's my it's my final say. But again,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 20: Mike and I Mike again. Mike said it yesterday. Mike
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 20: wouldn't have taken this job. And you know, this is
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 20: something we talked about in the interview process. Mike wouldn't
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 20: have taken this job if we weren't comfortable with each other.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 20: There's not going to be Mike's guys or Elliott's guys
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 20: are going to be Patriot guys and We're excited to
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 20: share the vision to work together to improve the roster
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 20: on the offensive line.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 19: Where do you view Michael Owen's ideal.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 20: I think ideally Mike's a guard, But again, some of
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 20: those decisions haven't been you know, made yet. Obviously, Mike
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 20: has played tackle for Josh you know, Doug Moron. I
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 20: don't believe he's even met him yet. So you know,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 20: we're going to get to the point where we'll we'll
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 20: make the best decision for the team.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 19: Clarity in his position as you addressed the line.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 20: And I think that would be you know, certainly helpful
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 20: to Mike and helpful to all of us as we
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 20: you know, develop a strategy moving forward in free agencies.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 11: And strategy experience more how you operate.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 17: More like the team.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 20: I think maybe just being more thorough, you know, just
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 20: some of the information that we got on some of
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 20: the players you know, wasn't wasn't as as thorough as
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 20: it needed to be. So I think just moving forward,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 20: you know, we have we have a tremendous opportunity with
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 20: this coaching staff. Like a lot of these guys have
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 20: been other places, They're familiar with these guys and just
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 20: having that familiarity with with players is going to be
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 20: an advantage for us moving forward because last year, last year.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: You saw how I guess expensive that market wasn't free
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: agency last year?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 19: Why why are teams investing so much in that position?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I just think the ability to wreck a game.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 20: I mean, these guys that already lead up up front,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 20: you know, pushing the middle of the pocket, making the
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 20: quarterback move, get off the spot like there's a you know,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 20: there's a premium on those guys. And that's why you
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 20: see some of these guys, you know, getting paid and
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 20: being drafted earlier and because of the impact they can
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 20: have on all three downs. Two pre Yeah, I mean
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 20: we're not We're not gonna be you know, frivolous. We're
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 20: gonna do what we think is best and we're gonna
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 20: you know, we're gonna again we have to do what's necessary.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 20: So last year we didn't do enough of what was necessary.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 20: This year, we have to do what's necessary to improve
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 20: the team.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: We're weaponizing the offer time fled backed.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: You know, I guess what went wrong with that process
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: and how aggressive need to be that helped Drake May
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: at this.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: Time of world.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean I think we you know, we took
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 20: some swings, and again, you know, taking swings ultimately isn't
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 20: good enough.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 18: We went four and thirteen.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 20: We have to have results, and so you know, we
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 20: took some swings at some of those guys and came
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 20: up short. And that's not an excuse, that's just what happened.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 20: So so we we need to continue to improve the roster,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 20: whether they're weapons, whether it's the lion, whether it's the defense.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 18: Just just in all phases.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 11: Cap space this offseason, do you expect to spend up
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 11: too or close to up to the cap spot.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 20: I think again, I just think I just think we're
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 20: gonna do what we have to do. You know, I
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 20: think it's probably not responsible to spend the whole thing.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 18: But again that's not to say we won't do it.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 20: If if there's a player out there that that you know,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 20: we're obviously players out there that that can fill a
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 20: role for us.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 21: Two for you in this draft, classic maybe stands out
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 21: above the rest.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 20: I think it's really deep on the defensive line. I
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 20: think it's really really deep at running back. Tight end
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 20: is a good year. So you know, those are some
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 20: of the positions that stand.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: Up last season on the defensive spine.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: What's your outlook on that part of the defense moving forward.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 20: Yeah, you know, just you know, again not an excuse,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 20: but unfortunately losing bar More, losing Bentley, you know, Dugger
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 20: and Pepper's had their you know issues, you know, with
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 20: injuries and things during the season. So you know, we're
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 20: hopeful those guys are going to come back for us
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 20: and and.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 18: You know, help stabilize that area.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 20: But again, we need to support them and develop the
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 20: depth on the roster to be able to compete at
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 20: a higher.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 19: Level and now great moments in.
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  Speaker 3: History, Paul, what I'm hoping for is that the league
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: handles training camp much like they did the draft, and
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: they make they give mandates for every team to do
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: it a certain way, and that takes the fushure.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: I think I think we'll be able to cover it
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: like that. We'll be able to get interviews with the
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: coaches and the players online. But I don't think we're
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: going to be able to watch the practice.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be really poor.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think we're going to be able to I
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: don't think we're going to be able to be there. Yeah, well,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: you don't watch practice any way.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: I do too.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: I come out, and even when you do, you don't
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: you see it? Oh?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: Shut up?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 18: Here we go, Here we go.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: Would you think it was gonna be a serious time
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: in the country and I was gonna let you off
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: the hook?
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: How many I make my judgments and they all end
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: up being accurate. That's a slogan, They.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: All end up being didn't even you didn't even believe
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: it as he was saying it.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: That's another great moment. All right back here on TATOK
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: filtered from what I understand. Uh, Evan and Deuce are
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: cued up in Indy. Hey guys, how you doing?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 7: Hey, how are you?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: We have a lot to talk about, and the first
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: one is, well, when's the last time you've been to
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: a Starbucks in Indy?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 22: I was just at the scene of the crime this
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 22: morning and I got it away unscathed, so we're good.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: Ev Was there a chalk outline of Rapaport's.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: Body, Yeah, there wasn't.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 22: But like I swear to God, there is people there
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 22: that were actually just taking pictures of the Starbucks just
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 22: to to tweet out the picture, but of being at the.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: Starbucks, they should get like a plaque sign out side
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: like this.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: But I was just wondering if if there's any chance
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: that you either of you were a witness to this incident.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 23: I mean, it would have been mister coffee over here.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 22: No, I had already been been gone for the day
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 22: at the Starbucks. But that is a it's a great
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 22: spot if you just want to hang out there and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 22: just kind.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: Of people watch.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 22: At the JW it is a nice spot.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: I've been there. It's on the second floor there, like yeah,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: but exactly, But what's the repercussions is it's still a
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: big news story going on, and you know, have they
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: set up the pay per view fight yet?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 7: We got to ask.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 23: There's a lot of NFL network employees wandering around doing
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 23: interviews around here, so we'll we'll try to get to
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 23: the bottom of it. But you know, Evan and I
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 23: have been very concerned with Travis Hunter and the cornerbacks
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 23: and the tight end class today.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: Of course, well that's safety and numbers for the NFL network.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: They have to make sure they protect them so he
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: doesn't have to call security every time. You guys started
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: talking a little bit about the corners and whatnot. Before
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: we move to Travis Hunter, any updates on abdual Carter
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: and which the sort of the scuttle butt is to
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: whether or not this will have any kind of an
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: impact on his status.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 23: Paul, First of all, I'm glad to miss I'm glad
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 23: you used the word scuttle but because we've been using
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 23: the word scuttle butt all day today. It was our
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 23: word of the day on the Wrap podcast, So somehow
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 23: you kept that going.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 7: So I appreciate that.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: It's not because I know, actually.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 7: I know, I know, I know. Because it's not out yet.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 23: I'm sure you'll watch it as soon as it's out,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 23: as all of our content that we write and produce.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 23: But yeah, we did see that report about abdual Carter
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 23: and speaking with some people, some sources, if you will, Uh.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 7: Not a big deal.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 23: Not a big deal, hasn't been known to be a
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 23: long term impact kind of injury, not known to drop
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 23: guys draft status, is what I'm hearing. So as much
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 23: as we hope that maybe this might be the thing
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 23: that might drop him down till fourth, overall, it doesn't
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 23: sound like it's going to be a huge factor that's
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 23: going to be a long term problem for him.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, Fred and I got that one right. Yeah, that's good.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: What else is going on over there?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 7: Fortunately?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: What what? Who have you? Yeah? Go ahead.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 23: Yeah, we did see Travis Hunter, huge gathering around him,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 23: very short and to the point, wouldn't answer. You know
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 23: a lot of people go around here asking.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 7: Have you met with the Patriots?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: Have you met with the Jets?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 23: You know that there are those people. He refused to
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 23: answer any of those questions. He just would would take
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 23: the take the plead the fifth on that. But he
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 23: looks like a dude. I mean, he's I think Evin
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 23: will agree. There's, you know, always a handful of guys
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 23: here at the Combine that you look up there and
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 23: you're like, this guy's going to be a player in
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 23: the league. And he had that kind of charisma and presence.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, now you didn't have that same feeling, Mike, and
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: I would agree with you. I'm not throwing you under
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: the bus with Mason Graham.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 23: Right right, No, I know it's and especially with the
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 23: news about Godshaw too, I mean it's it's interesting. It's
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 23: interesting how they just they might not have any defensive
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 23: linemen right now. I mean, there's uncertainty with Barmore, there's
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 23: uncertainly with Devon Godshaw. I mean, you're looking at basically,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 23: Jeremiah Farms is your defensive line right now. So even
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 23: if you if you're not thrilled with Mason Graham not
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 23: looking like an off the bus guy, I think you
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 23: got to consider him a little bit closer now today
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 23: than you might have yesterday. You know, not that I
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 23: thought that Godshaw was the answer or even like there
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 23: were anything close to the same kind of player, but
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 23: they just need bodies at that spot.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 7: So you know, everything I think you're hearing.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 23: I'm sure you guys have been seeing some of the
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 23: rumors coming out is that they want to address the trenches.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 23: And I assume that they're going to be aggressive on
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 23: that defensive line before the draft, and then they still
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 23: might take Mason Graham. So you know, I was thinking
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 23: about the guy from Detroit who played under Troll Lee
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 23: on wiser un Zer Working. I can't get you know,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 23: you know what I'm talking about. But a guy like
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 23: that who's a free agent could could definitely make sense.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: So it's Campbell or it's Graham. Who do you pick
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: at four?
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 23: I think I think we're both on Campbell right, Yeah,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 23: I We'll see what Campbell.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 22: You know, when he talks on Saturday. But I think
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 22: the big thing, you know, Deuce was talking about it
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 22: with Travis Hunter. There's a lot of appeal to just
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 22: that that bravado, that gravitas, that guy that can command
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 22: a room and has all that confidence and charisma For
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 22: a team like the Patriots that that needs that sort
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 22: of jolt, like I feel like they need that jump.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 22: And maybe it doesn't come from Travis Hunter necessarily, but
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 22: I feel like Will Campbell from everything that you've heard
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 22: about him, or the leadership and the attitude and all
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 22: that kind of stuff, He's one of those types of
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 22: guys too. So I don't want to make too big
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 22: of a deal of podium press conferences at the combine,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 22: but I I do look at those guys and say,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 22: for a team like the Patriots that needs leadership, that
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 22: needs a culture change, like those types of players are
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 22: attractive in this draft.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: Did you guys have a chance to hear from anybody
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: else today that you know sort of caught your eye
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: impressed you? I know, Tyler Warren, I think I saw
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: on Twitter earlier anybody stand out to you guys?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean I think what stood out to me
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 23: was Colston Lovelin being in a giant arm brace sent
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 23: me to do some research on him. Looks like he
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 23: had ac constructive reconstructive surgery. It sounded like he's not
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 23: going to be able to do any contact for at
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 23: least six months. So I know Evan's been really high
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 23: on him. I mean, I think he's right up there
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 23: with Warren with his athleticism. So that's a you know,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 23: we keep talking about some of these injuries kind of
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 23: kick some guys down to where.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: The Patriots might be able to select them.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 23: And I think that's something Evan and I have talked
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 23: about a little bit, is there's some appeal in the
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 23: tight end class.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: There's not.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 23: It doesn't sound like they love the wide receivers in
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 23: free agency or in the draft, so you know, maybe
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 23: they do take one of these tight ends. It seems
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 23: like there's a few of them that that could maybe
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 23: make an impact out right out.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 7: Of the gate.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: And you know, getting back go ahead, Evan, no no.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 22: I just we talked to Mason Taylor from LSU a
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 22: little bit too, and interesting story, you know, with Jason
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 22: Taylor being his father and Mike Rabel and Jason Taylor
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 22: were in the same draft class in nineteen ninety seven.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 22: So he said that in his meeting with the Patriots
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 22: here at the Combine with Rabel, they were kind of
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 22: going back and forth and trash talking a little bit
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 22: about his dad and things like that. So he's a
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 22: talented player too, and obviously has the NFL bloodline. So
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 22: if you're looking for somebody on day two a little
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 22: bit further down the board than Warren and Colson Lovelin,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 22: then Mason Taylor is getting a lot of buzz right
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 22: now on that Day two range.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, so guys, I want to give you a little information.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: You might have already heard this, but as you know,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: no matter what the subject matter is on Patriots Unfiltered,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: chances are there's a caller that or listener that has
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: some in info. And when it comes back to this
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: rapaport story not to do with him and Jason Schultz,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: but with Brady, with Brady and Stafford, we had somebody
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: from Montana who called in and said it's highly likely
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: that this where they met up was a place called
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: the Yellowstone Club, which is an exclusive resort. Have you
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: heard this?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 23: Well, when my old bosses in California used to go
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 23: to the Yellowstone Club, and they would see Brady there
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 23: all the time, so that was absolutely seems possible to
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 23: me that he was there. I can't speak to Stafford,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 23: but yeah, I know he.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Was saying, it's it's a highly highly exclusive club. You
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: don't just show up and go skiing or hang out
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: in the club. You either own property there, as Brady does,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: I believe, or you're invited by somebody who owns property there.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: So he's saying it's highly unlikely that it was a
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: chance meeting. But you know again, that's that's yeah.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: That's fair.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 23: Yeah, that's exactly what my old bosses. I mean, they
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 23: used to have to take a private plane there. They
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 23: told me about you basically have the ski mountain to yourself.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 23: I mean it's it's you know, no lines anything like that.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 23: There's also just a giant arcade. I mean it's, you know,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 23: it's like Disneyland for adults in this ski resort. So
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 23: but that's interesting. Yeah, I don't know, it's it. I mean,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 23: have you guys dove into that. We haven't been paying
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 23: that much attention.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: No, we don't know, and we don't know that that's
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: where the Yeah, well, I mean tampering well, that's why
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: do you think that the NFL network came out so
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: quickly to say they just happened to bump into each other.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: You know, nothing to see here?
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 7: Whoa, whoa, whoa?
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: Nothing to see here? Move along?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: So, yes, I think there was probably some tampering going on.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: Dudes. Yeh.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 23: Can this keep going on with Brady like him being
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 23: an owner and a broadcaster.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 7: It's just it seems like there are conflicts popping up.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: I agree to it. I think he's on thin ice.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: I think just eventually I think this.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: If he was with the Patriots, it would be fine,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: it would be okay.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, me too. All right, So what else do
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: you have because we need to get back to the show.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: I'm only two and anything else before we let you go?
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 7: What else can we what else can we share?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 22: I feel like we touched on Travis Hunter a little bit,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 22: but I just I think the one thing you take
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 22: away from you know what's going on here with Travis
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 22: Hunter is there's a lot more people that keep on
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 22: saying he's a wide receiver over cornerback.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: I heard your buddy Alex talk about that this morning, Yev.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's really there's a lot more people.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 22: And I think Andrew Barry of the Browns, the general
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 22: manager there in Cleveland, he said it publicly in his
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 22: press conference that the Browns have him on their board
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 22: as a wide receiver, and ever since that, everybody feels
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 22: a little bit more comfortable to put their flag on
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 22: Travis Hunter being a wide receiver. And that's becoming a
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 22: very popular take here at the combine, which is interesting
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 22: because everybody says he has better cornerback tape, but I
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 22: think just the impact that he can make at receiver
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 22: for your team is just a lot higher than it
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 22: is for a cornerback, just from a positional value standpoint.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 22: So all right there, that's a one that's definitely going
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 22: around now, is that the more and more people are
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 22: coming out of the woodwork saying that he's a wide receiver.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 23: I just add, we didn't talk to you guys yesterday,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 23: but the defensive line class, the linebackers, there's just a
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 23: lot of really intriguing players, and it's a little bit
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 23: frustrating because you want a bunch of them, but I
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 23: think they've got to find a way to get some
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 23: of these guys.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: We talked to Elliott a little bit about it yesterday.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 23: Trying to figure out, you know, who's the right fit,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 23: what kind of style, and you know, everything continues to
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 23: point towards it. And I heard Paul talking about this
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 23: earlier in the show of their kind of shifting their
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 23: their defensive style, and this is going to be more
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 23: a you know, go get the quarterback, stop the run
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 23: on the way to the quarterback kind of thing, less
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 23: build the wall to gapping. And I also heard you
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 23: guys talking about Godshaw with that stuff as well. So
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 23: I think they're going to have to remake the defensive line,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 23: and it is probably the right here in the draft
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 23: to do it.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: I know he's out alignment, but Harold Landry is supposed
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: to be might be available. You guys interested in him?
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 7: Sure?
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, I would be interested in him. And we
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 22: talked a little bit about that on Catch twenty two yesterday.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 22: Because you're going with that Commander's model of trying to
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 22: get you know, eight ten.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: Just capable quality starters.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 22: I feel like, even though he's not necessarily a superstar player,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 22: Harold Landry would fit into that category of a veteran
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 22: guy that's done it, that has production in the league.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 22: He's still only twenty eight years old, so obviously the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 22: familiarity with Ray Bowl. There's a lot of reasons to
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 22: like that one. I kind of like that one more
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 22: than some of the other one like veteran you know,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 22: at the end of their career options that are being
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 22: thrown out there.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: I would probably go with Harold Landry. Okay, we're all
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: in agreement on that one.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: Are you guys eating well?
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 23: Well some of us, some of us didn't eat so
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 23: well earlier in the week, and that we're paying the
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 23: price for it the last couple of days. So but
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 23: we did have you know, thank you to no socks
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 23: into a show who made a you know, made the
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 23: run to Shapiro's for some sandwiches here today and got
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 23: personally got me back on track. I feel like after
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 23: taking down a turkey rubin. So I can't speak for Evan.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 23: I've been on kind of my own journey here in Indianapolis.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 7: Okay, without getting into too much detail.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: Speaking of journeys, Evan, your friend Barth, yes, at this point,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: if you talked to him about his expectations, would you
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: say it so far did the combine meet his expectations?
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: A little disappointing or exceed his expectations.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 22: I haven't gotten a straight answer from him on that.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 22: I'll ask him for you, but I would say it's
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 22: got to be exceeds. Last night was certainly a good
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 22: knight for Barth. He had the shrimp cocktail for the
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 22: first time at Saint Elmo's, so that was an experience.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 22: You know. The night before was probably even more of
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 22: an experience, but we'll save that for another time. But yeah, no,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 22: he he's had he's had a very a very good combine.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 22: I told him last night was really like he did
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 22: the combine last night, you know, like he had the
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 22: cocktail sauce. He went to Prime forty seven a little
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 22: bit afterwards, so he really nailed it.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: One nights ago, might he have visited an establishment for men?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: No, oh, No, he's grinding.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 23: He's making radio appearances at like ten thirty at night. Yeah,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 23: wakes back up and he's back on the radio with
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 23: seven thirty.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: I heard him.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 23: Look, we're back in our hotels at like seven pm.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 23: He's doing a podcast. I mean he's uh. I think
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 23: he's really staking his claim here in Indy. So he's
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 23: doing a great job.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 7: That one other little barth nugget for you guys.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 22: He last night it's uh, he's on the phone doing
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 22: a radio hit at night, and we were we were migrating,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 22: you know, from relocating. Let's put you that a way
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 22: from one spot to another, and uh, someone's voice might
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 22: be on ninety eighty five yelling for Alex to hurry
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 22: up so that we can get in the hooper to
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 22: go to the next spot. So someone made an impromptu
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 22: appearance on nine eighty five the Sports Up last night.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: So there we go. All right, sounds like you're having
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: fun doing a lot of work. What's next? What do
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: we have to look forward to for tomorrow and the weekend?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well we're excited.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 23: We're gonna we have access to the workouts now, so
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 23: I think Evan and I this afternoon are gonna head
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 23: over and take some of those in in person. So
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 23: those would be the defensive line and the linebackers. And
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 23: then tomorrow's kind of a big day with the quarterbacks,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 23: the wide receivers, and the running backs. A lot of
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 23: people saying the running back class really solid this year,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 23: so excited to hear from them, and yeah, then that'll
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 23: be it. We're tapping out tomorrow night. So another wrap
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 23: up pod coming this afternoon one tomorrow and a couple
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 23: write up seven. We'll be writing up the workouts. So yeah,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 23: we're we're.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 7: Getting close to the end, but not quite so we
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 7: still got a bunch to do.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 22: Yeah, we got your guy on tomorrow with us. The
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 22: Beast Damn Brugler is going to be on Draft Countdown podcast.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 7: We couldn't find anyone from our lads, but we'll looking hub.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: Hub wasn't available. I just want to make sure you
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: two guys the buddy system at all times. I don't
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: want any I don't want Jordan Schultz cornering either one
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: of you guys at a Starbucks. So stay together, buddy system.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: I can't afford to lose any personnel.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 7: Right, We'll be careful.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: All right, guys, thanks for calling in. We'll talk to
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: you later.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 7: Thanks boys, guys, Right.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: All right. Evan indues from Indy.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: It's it's so funny listening and I know they would
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: know the joking around. We're having a lot of fun
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: at Alex's expense, But listening to Alex talk about this stuff,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: I've heard a couple of his because he has been
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: on Felgrin mas a lot. He's but he was on
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: this Morning with with Toucher and and Hardy, and he
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: just sounds so excited all the time. It's just he can't.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: He's like he actually sins. Like you know when you
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: know you're just walking down the street and you know
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: you're seeing the coaches and the gms, you know, the
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: guys that you see on TV.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, this is Hollywood for him.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: It's like, yes, like you ran into Andrew Berry, the
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: general manager of the Cleveland Browns, Like no, this is
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: this is not like he's at the Yellowstone Club in
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: Montana and he's seeing actual celebrities.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: This is his Academy Awards night, Like you know, it's
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: very much. Yeah, he's in the audience with all the
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: big stars. So good for him. Let's see. John writes
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: in from Nova Scotia. Friend and Paul, you are like
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: two stereotypical old guys. You keep talking over Alex. Other
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: than that, keep up the good work.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: I haven't really noticed that the stereotypical old guys.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: Absolutely are we talking over youith?
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: Have we talked over you? I apologize for you.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: You can say if we.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: Are, probably, but I'll just repeat myself.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: Not that we're gonna stop, but you can tell us.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: That we teach you guys where the billionaires hang out.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: You can also just say shut up, I'm talking. Go
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: ahead and say that you could do that.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: We'll save that for when it's really necessary. But you
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 5: probably get ripped out at one point.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: Do that to me. I would just doin it to me,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: not to Fred. Fred's woke up one.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the TPX hotline until March for us. Dan,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: It's in Colorado. What's up Dan?
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 17: Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call. I have a
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 17: story I wanted to share with you guys really quick.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 17: This is going to be mainly for fallen spread Now.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 17: I just liked air at the appropriate amount as much
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 17: as anyone did. I loved giving him a craft just
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 17: as much as anyone. However, there is something that he
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 17: may have been right about that completely blew my mind
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 17: in the moment. So this past summer, my wife and
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 17: I went on our honeymoon. We went to Italy for
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 17: two weeks. It was very nice and one of the
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 17: places we stayed was in Verona, which is one of
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 17: the wine countries in Italy. And as we were doing
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 17: some wine tours. We're coming to the end of the day.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 17: We see this winery that looks like it's closing out.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: We go for its tasting.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 17: We meet the owner. He's really nice. He takes us
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 17: back to give us a bottle of one and to
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 17: open a bottle of wine for us. I wouldn't believe it.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 17: The second he opened the bottle of wine, the first
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 17: thing he did was sniff the freaking cork.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: So I thought that you should have left immediately, and.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 17: I demanded to know why he sniffed the cork. I
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 17: couldn't stop thinking of Eric in that moment, and he'd
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 17: explained to me how supposedly, yes, you can smell impurities
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 17: in the wine or something like that, but either way,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 17: he said it and did it in such a duchey
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 17: Eric way that like I couldn't help but just last
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 17: the whole time. And so I spent the rest of
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 17: my honeymoon completely mind blowing that Eric might have been right,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 17: that you do actually sniff the cork for a reason. Okay,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 17: waiting for months to share that story with you guys.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: Help it.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: That's great, great stuffs awesome, all right, thanks, thanks Dan,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: appreciate that you know do you hear about that, Alex,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: that long standing argument we had. No, I've been told
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: by Somalier's you know what that is, of course, because
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: you're sophisticated, that the whole sniffing of the cork is
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: you don't need to do that.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, it's performative.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but Eric was dead, Oh you have to do it.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: So we've gone back and forth, you know, for a
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: long time on that, Yes, and people have called in with.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: Right, you got to just keep smelling it now.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I Either one of us
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: ever claims that Eric's pomposity was unique to him, Like, oh,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of pompous people on the planet.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: Oh sure, right, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: So evidently Dan ran his wife ran into.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: One right right now. But I mean, listen, I don't know,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: but I was told by Somalier that you don't need
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: to sniff the cork, it's it.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, goes into that. I'd probably trust the smell.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, like if if the wine has gone bad,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: you're gonna know it, like when you open up the bottle.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: You're a big wine drinker, Alex.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: I like wine. It's probably one of my top three choices.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 5: If I'm going to drink, it's probably a red wine.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: I like it when you know somebody has the wine
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: glass and you know, they do this and then they
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: just take their whole face and they put it in
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: and they like, you know, no, no, no, no, they smell
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: like they take the you know, they smell like like
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: they're really into it. Yeah, hards.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: Formative.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 5: Like, no one who actually knows that much about wine. Like,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: if you're that involved with it, you're probably not going
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 5: to make a big show out of it.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: I just know if it comes with a screw top,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: it may not be that good. Yeah.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: Or in a box, Yeah, you really want to stay
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: away from the box.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 18: To box no formal artistic.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: But I will tell you, like, I am far from
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: a wine connoisseur or expert, but Bledsoe's premium cabernet and
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: it's excellent. You can tell the difference. You can tell
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: the difference.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: Did I tell you that Will and his girlfriend drank
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 4: my bottle of bloodso wine?
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: Oh? Really?
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: Were you pissed? Yeah?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at least if it was going to
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: get open, I was gonna drink.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: Do you need another one?
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: I got a names longer as you can get it
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: for the bagel.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: No, no, because his thing saw I'm on like the
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: list because I bought a couple of times. Yeah, and
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: they'll come out. Okay, we just came out with our
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five you know, cab or whatever. But you
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: have to buy like a minimum of like five bottles
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: or something like that, and each bottle is like over
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: two hundred dollars. I'm not doing that. I don't drink
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: that much wine.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: Probably has to be.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't drink that much wine.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: Plus he autographed for me.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's gone. Yeah, that's terrible.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: Your son opened now. I don't want to get your
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: son in trouble. But like he saw that it was
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: autographed and still.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming he didn't see that part of it.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, i'd be pissed too.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: Don't with that girl anymore.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: H real, she.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 5: Doesn't even know what she drank probably the significance.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: That's crazy. I'm over it.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: Ryan writes in I've been listening for the last five years,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: and like everyone else, have their favorite callers on this show,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: and some that rubbed me the wrong way. But is
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: there anyone even remotely close to how terrible Christian in
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: la is Wow Wow Listener on Listener Crime like It.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: It's like Jordan Schultz and Ian Rabbitport.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: The only thing more out of touch than his tax
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: bracket comment is his football acumen. His rehearse questions and
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: clueless follow ups are the worst part of the show.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: He's the type of person who starts talking to you
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: about sports at a bar and you need to move
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: two stools over. We don't know how you made that
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: tax bracket, but we're confident you didn't make your fortune
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: in sports.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: I would agree with the the tax bracket comment.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: Kind of did he actually say he's in that tax bracket?
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: I think saying he works for somebody who's in that
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: tax tacket or something like that. But I thought he
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: brought the The question today was about the draft, like
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: moving in the draft, you know what, you know. I
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: thought there was some good conversation that came out of it.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: Now, Christian was fine today, But we just mean I'll
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: always read, I'll always made the listener on Listener even
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: I'm here for it. I mean, that's good. That's good theater.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 4: He yeah, now you've got a fire back, Christian.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: That's good theater.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: Servant volley.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: Let's see Spian Fresno writes in first on Fred's distinction
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: between surgery versus procedure. On Monday, I had an outpatient
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: surgical procedure where I went completely under, including intubation, but
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: was able to walk out of the hospital the same day.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: So was that surgery or procedure? That's a procedure intubation. Yeah,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: that sounds like you walked out that day.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: So it's strictly this is I love a peek into
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: Fred's soul. Yeah, that's the sole criteria. Yeah, if it's
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: if you're able to do it in one day. I
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: mean so basically the time of day that you have
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: the surgery.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: So all procedures are surgery. I get it. But in
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: my mind, if you're in and out in a day, then.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: I think if you if you're like, it's not just
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 4: a local anesthetic you have like real Yeah, you're.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: Foot under it for a day, I mean gone out
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: that same day. And that's just I had like a
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: like one of those mesh hernia things you had to
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: put in.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: H I think that's a surgery, all.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: Right, But I think it's a procedure because I was
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: Like I was fine walked out to break the time.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: But like a facelift procedure, unless unless you're in the like,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: unless you're like a pretty extensive.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: Procedure, they do call it elective surgery.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like the parameter for me is do
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 5: you absolutely need it?
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: Surgery that's a whole different not maybe.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: Like you could maybe get by without it for a
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 5: little bit, but you're just gonna go clean it up,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: clean up the knee procedure.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 5: I just formed this opinion minutes ago.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: I know you can you die on the tape. That's
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: a surgery, so well you can die on I know,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna yeah, that's.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 5: Like how many people go for aesthetic surgery.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: But let's go to Ali. So if you tear your ACL,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: you don't need it. I know a lot of people
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: that have torn their acls. They've been walking around for
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: twenty five years.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: Two people.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you get the surgery, surgery, that's a surgery,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 4: that's a yeah, that's it's a major surgery, right, Yeah,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: but you don't need it.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: You need it to play again.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But I'm just saying, like in regular, regular pain.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 5: Average Joe like us, right, you still might need the surgery.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: I had a girlfriend who tore ACL her senior year
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: or high school. She played four years of college and
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: I this was like ten years later. She hadn't still
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: hadn't had it done.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: But it is a surgery because.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: She wasn't, you know, going pro or anything and needed
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: to have an intact ACL to live her life.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: Right. Remember who was it, Jimmy Hitchcock had he had
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: no ACLS player on a team cornerback. See, I remember
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: some people you do, but.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: You're very much like me, back to the original premisseres,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 4: the two old guys.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: Well, that's why he's impressive. It's like before all the
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: medical technology and stuff like, you couldn't just go to
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 5: Germany or Mexico to get or Costa to get like
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: stem cells right injections or whatever else they're doing.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: Now, speed goes on, he said. Second the Adam Schefter
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: he means Ian Rappaport, Josh Schultz, b Jordan is the
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: best part of the off season so far, though I'm
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: speaking as someone who's bored to tears by mock draft season.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: I want the conflict to escalate into something even more
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: ridiculous and have come up with some names for the
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: coming bout if it takes Blake's, if it takes place
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: at a Starbucks, the Frappacino face off, the Mocha mayhem,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: the Starbucks skirmish, the Grande grudge match, or the Venti Vendetta.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: If instead the slopes of Monte and A play host
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: to the scuffle, Snowbound showdown, Alpine brawl, Frosty fisticuffs, powder
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: punch up, or Cashmere clash.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, Cashmere clash not bad. Yeah, but I definitely.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: About the Yellowstone Yahoo, definitely.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 4: Going to continue to monitor that situation if it escalates.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: Well, security has already been brought in, Paul So I
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: guess Ian Rappaport has twenty four hour detail around him.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: Now yeah, yeah, that's something though, isn't it.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: Security?
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, like okay, if I'm Jordan Schultz,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: Like if I'm Jordan Schultz, Okay, I want to talk
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: to this guy, but you don't confront him like that,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: You like you do different like different story, but even
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: like standing out in front of a Starbucks to do it,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: like wait until like he's you know, in the lobby
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: and you sit on a couch next to him and
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: you say, hey, I need to talk to you.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 5: You don't do it like a lot of people Twitter
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 5: fingers though, and you see them face to face and
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 5: you want to be like, so what's up, and they're
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: going to be a little bit bored about it, Like, no, say.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: He did the problem. He did this as a thing
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: to promote Starbucks. I don't you think, so, oh yeah,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: this is a ploy.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: But then now people know he's his son.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: This is why, this is why we need to take
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: notes and learn from Fred. Yeah, that's brilliant.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: It's a ploy. How many times have we as a
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: duncan you know? Let me make sure mentioned the competitors.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: I believes this is what he's a former.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: He waited, he founded it. He waited for him to
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: be at Starbucks and he did it there to promote Starbucks.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: So that's it.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: I think that's brilliant, former, former CEO.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: Former, It's not that kills it. I'm sure he maybe
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: has stock a lot.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 5: Of is that on the SuperSonics his dad on the SuperSonics.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: Owned not anymore?
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: Probably wondering how if he's going to be able to
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 4: get a new Hunter accord like me.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: Let's see Will Wrights in from Kentucky. I'm pretty sure
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: that Paul has the tampering thing wrong, and not by
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: a little bit. Teams can talk to teams about a
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: player still under contract at any time, just no trades
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: are possible until the legal tampering period begins. I don't
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: think that's true.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: But he says it can inquire about a player, but
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: we're talking about talking about yeah players.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: The player or the agent. That's different. Couldn't find the
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: exact words in the rule book. And NFL tampering is
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: when a team contacts a player outside the league's permitted
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: negotiation windows. What we just said, the league created the
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: legal tampering period to prevent backdoor deals and to prevent
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: a level playing field for teams.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, if you want to make it innocent, yeah,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 4: I can understand it. And he's right. The email is right.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 4: Like if Robert Kraft is talking to my Brown and
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: he's saying, what are your plans with T Higgins, Like,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 4: that's not tampering. Yep, you know, so the email is right.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: I understand that. But my my assumption is more along
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: the lines of it's not that innocent. You're sort of
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 4: trying to find out what it's going to take to
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 4: sign them. You're gonna you're at you know that kind
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: of stuff, and you're talking to the representatives of Higgins.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: But the email is right, He's right.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: Yep, I'm wrong Trent and Sylvan Lake as a grown
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: man who wears his hat backwards. I had to chime
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: in Freddie on Tuesday, you had a woman telling you
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 3: that ladies like the backwards hat look, and you argued
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: with her. That's like Evan arguing with Brad Stevens about
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: the name of an arena in Indiana. Take it from
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: the person who knows. But the bigger revelation was that
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: fred actually uses the peopole on his underwear to pee
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: out of I'm sorry, but that's insane.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: That was odd myself.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: Oh no, but do you wear Tommy John? I wear boxers, right,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 3: So Tommy John has a patented thing, and it's pretty good.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: If you were in your underwear backwards, it's of no use.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 4: To understand that your problem was that they were on backwards, right.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: But I would never use that.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: Uh. Do you go through the zipper on your jeans too?
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: You must have a couple of hipper scars. You don't
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: never pants. But you have them down in your ankles. Yeah,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: what you're doing, you don't undo the whole thing.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: Have you ever gotten a car?
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: Theah, When I was four.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: I got it, Thank you, Thank you, Matt.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: When I was four, I got it.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 4: I've never gotten a car, okay, and I never will.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: But I haven't because I never was before.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: I never put myself in jeopardy, Alex.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: I haven't since I was four. Do you remember Everybody
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: Loves the Marry? Remember when that scene was unbelievable? Do
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: you ever see that movie? Oh, it's with Ben Stiller.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: There's something, there's something about Mary.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: You have to see that. I have to.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 18: Like.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: There's not a lot of movies like the movies where
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 3: you go ahead to be in the theater and you laugh.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: But yeah, this is one of the few movies where
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: I lost it in the theater.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 4: You know, when everybody tells you, you know, you have
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 4: to have the steaks there, it's you have to see
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: this movie, like whatever the you know, whatever it is,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: it never lives up right. Everybody told me this is
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: one of the funniest movies they've ever seen, and I
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: was like, there's no way I'm going to see it.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: But I'm going to be disappointed. I was not disappointed.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: It was that funny.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: It was one of the funniest movies I've ever seen
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: in the theater.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, we're there's.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: Definitely a correlation between kids who drop their pants all
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: the way to the floor to peek and men who
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: use the flat. Wow. So he's telling me, I'm like that.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: I hate to bring Paul's little poll into this, but
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: if he could start another tally, that would be great.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: Do you go over the underwear or through the door?
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: I got to believe ninety five to ninety nine percent
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: of men go over the top rope. Thank you for
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: the decades of yer. See if I'm wearing tidy whitey
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: so when I use to wear those, I would I
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: would not go through the door. But I'm telling you
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: the Tommy John's make it very convenient. You don't have
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: to get undressed to go to the bathroom. But you really.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: You go through the zipper too? Yeah, you just like
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: roll the dice.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said since I was four years old
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: that what happened to me.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: At the edge. I can't do it. I can't, Okay,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like yeah, yeah, all right, mess dripping issues Okay.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: Let's see Travis in West Virginia says, once again, I
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: had an issue with the email of the week. Not
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: only was it a little long winded, it was shameless,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: but kissing that should not be encouraged. Uh and random.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: If you call matc grow macroe, no one would ever
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: know the difference. I don't know what that means. But
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: he's saying that mac Roe's kind of lost his stature.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: Would in the organization. I don't know. I don't know
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 3: what that means.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: Uh, Matt always over the top, rope, always over the top.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: I would never how about under the side.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: But what kind of underwear do you wear under the side?
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 24: It's only happened after I'm working out?
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, what kind of underwear do you wear?
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 4: I have boxers?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, well usually boxers are easy. Say like the tidy
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: whities are weird, you know, like they.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: Have won tidy whities since I was like, yeah, yeah,
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: they're probably a little older than that. Yeah maybe six.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: See, I don't know. In some way, In some way,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: girls have it easier, like there's no decision to be made,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: you got to drop.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 5: Draw You guys can go anywhere as long as no
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 5: one sees you let go anywhere.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we can't facts. Yeah. I was with a girl
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: one night where at the Compass Lounge in Dennisport, and
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: she's like, I have to go to the bath. She
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: went behind a car. I was appalled over. It's really
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: tricky basically.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 4: Basically, Yeah, I've been with not necessarily on dates, but
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: I've been out with like my friends and I've had
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: girls do that, go outside but discreetly.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: Well I could see you know, birds of a feather, Paul,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: but you side of the road, you know they Yeah, that.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: Was that was Panic Central, I'll tell you. And that
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: that was that was that was Egen.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: This was before you were you know, Patriots famous, right
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: or was it? Could I mean, could it be possible
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: that someone was driving is.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: That poulp Yes, it was before I was working for you, Okay,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 4: I was at the Herald then.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 3: Because that could have been an incident, and I would put.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: It around ninety five six seven in that area.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: Someone recognizes you and it could have happened. It could
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 3: have happened. Barsol sports Jacket and Arbor wants to know
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: what to score. The Celtics Pistons game was yesterday, as
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: TV broke they.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 4: Got blown out when seventeen ninety seven.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they did not play well.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 4: Listen, it was the Celtics were playing have been I
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: don't no, no, no, I'm not going to make an excuse.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: I said, the Celtics have been playing extremely well and
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 4: the Pistons have been playing extremely well. I think it
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 4: was a much more important game for Detroit. I think
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: they took it very seriously. I think that it was
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 4: the second of a back to back for the Celtics,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 4: so I guess I am making a little bit of
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: an excuse. I think it was kind of to be expected.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a lot of people said it was a
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: bad spot.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: No Jalen Brown, second night of a back to back,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 4: Piston's red hot with something to prove. But I think
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 4: that Pistons team, by the way, I think I don't
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 4: know this year, but that's a team that's that's on
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: the ride.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 3: I'm to the point with the Celtics like they should
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 3: win every night. Like I think they're that good if
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: they play their game.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if they're that good, if everybody
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 4: else is that bad, huh, I don't know if they're
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: Like I think it's like three teams that I think, like,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 4: like I think, okay, see is that good? You know Cleveland?
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 4: I mean Cleveland only has ten losses. I mean it
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: is what it is.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: I know, but I think two of them are from
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: the Celtics.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 4: Everybody else is just kind of man yeah, like there's
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: no like, no, that's true. There's no really like the
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 4: Knicks to me, or as averages average can be. You know,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 4: there like three games behind the Celtics.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: I know, but whenever they play a team like this,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: the go is my lose.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: That's exactly my point, right, because they have the same
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 4: record as the Celtics, yet can't beat a team that's good, right, right,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 4: So what does that tell you? You're right, the league
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 4: is full of bad teams.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: You're right when they have to.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 4: I hope. So, No, I think the Celtics are played
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: To run one hundred every single game.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah I don't. I don't, like, you don't get anything
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 4: for that.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: Like, I just didn't like every time they go in
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: the paint they turn it over. Last night they had
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: nineteen turnovers. Come on, come on.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna disappoint it.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: We're gonna end the show with this email from Austin says,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: double dose of Alexandra this week. Tell Deuce and Elaine
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: they can stay in Indy. He's calling Evan, Elaine. I
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: got that.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 5: I can just have a new nickname and have no idea.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 4: Why, ladies and gentlemen, Elaine Bennis.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: All right, that is gonna be good. Yeah, we're done. Yeah,
• 1:58:10
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