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Chuck & Buck 10-21 Hour 4: MMQB (on a Tuesday) with Mike Holmgren and Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Now the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike holm Grin and
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millin. Here's Chuck and Buck.
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  Speaker 2: All right, nine o'clock hour here on this Tuesday, we
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  Speaker 2: spent three hours, you know, talking about the Mariners season
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  Speaker 2: coming to a close. We reserve our our last hour
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  Speaker 2: to talk about Monday night football. Seahawks went over the
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  Speaker 2: Houston Texans twenty seven to nineteen. So we'll spend our
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  Speaker 2: final hour this Tuesday with our favorite football analysts, Hugh
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  Speaker 2: millon r QB one and also coach Mike Holmgren as well.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, gentlemen, Good morning, Good morning, Chuck, Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't you know, with the baseball game on, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't spend a lot of time watching this football game.
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  Speaker 3: So you bet my eyes on this one. Coach.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety eight penalty yards, four turnovers by
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, and still they managed to win by eight
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  Speaker 2: points despite going two for fourteen on third down. Did
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  Speaker 2: I pick a good game to miss if I was
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  Speaker 2: going to miss any I.
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  Speaker 4: Think he did. I think he really did. I Every
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  Speaker 4: once a while, I'd switch on the Mariner game too.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of going back and forth. And you know Kathy,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for years she couldn't stay in the stadium
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  Speaker 4: and watch us play because she took the game so
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  Speaker 4: seriously and her hurt when we lost, so and she
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  Speaker 4: couldn't watch the Mariners. So I watched more of the
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  Speaker 4: football game, probably than you did. But I was going
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  Speaker 4: back and forth. Yeah, the Texans weren't very impressive to me.
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  Speaker 3: Here.
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  Speaker 2: What stood out to you about that result last night?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think going into the game, just knowing how
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  Speaker 5: Houston was defensively number one in the NFL fewest points
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  Speaker 5: allowed less than a touchdown or accuve me more than
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  Speaker 5: a touchdown less than the Seahawks at just twelve points
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  Speaker 5: per game allowed. They were top five and everything. So
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  Speaker 5: you kind of figured that it was going to be
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  Speaker 5: a little bit clunky and inconsistent for the Seahawks offense.
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  Speaker 5: But I think that if you look at what Seattle
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  Speaker 5: did defensively, if your opponent, they're running backs, have fifteen
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  Speaker 5: carries for thirty one yards, and you hold the opponent
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  Speaker 5: quarterback under a sixty passer rating, that that's going to
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  Speaker 5: be a formula to win a game, even when you
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  Speaker 5: play ugly offensively.
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  Speaker 6: All right, Well, so our defense played well and even
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  Speaker 6: though the stats don't necessarily jump off the page, Hugh
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  Speaker 6: and coach, you can answer this too. I mean that
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  Speaker 6: it looked Are you saying that our offense looked good
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  Speaker 6: or just looked good against a good defense?
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  Speaker 4: You?
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  Speaker 5: Uh, our offense, Our offense, I think just looked inconsistent
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  Speaker 5: against a very good defense. I think that they had
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  Speaker 5: some of their best plays in the first quarter. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know that play action, fake the stretch and get
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  Speaker 5: and get Elijah Royal to stutter and then run up
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  Speaker 5: the sideline. They hit that you had to play with
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  Speaker 5: with Cooper Cup he aligns in the left slot on
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  Speaker 5: a play action. He kind of runs a shallow cross
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  Speaker 5: from left to right, acting like he wants to block,
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  Speaker 5: and then he emerges all the way to the other
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  Speaker 5: side and then runs a go route up the right
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  Speaker 5: sideline even though he had started on the left. I
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  Speaker 5: think there were some plays like that and others Mike,
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  Speaker 5: where you know, you know this coach that you have
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  Speaker 5: some plays you get, Man, I really love this. I
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  Speaker 5: think this is gonna work. You know, it looks good
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  Speaker 5: in practice, and then you have the impulse to get
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  Speaker 5: it on the script early or to call it early.
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  Speaker 5: They work and what have you And and then you know,
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  Speaker 5: not that you shoot your wad, but but maybe some
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  Speaker 5: of your best big plays you've already used by the
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  Speaker 5: end of the first quarter. That kind of how is
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  Speaker 5: how it played out to some degree last night.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that, you know it. I was what
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  Speaker 4: kept going through my mind is that without enjigma, what
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  Speaker 4: what are we doing here? You know, because it was
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  Speaker 4: you know, he was he was superb he was really good.
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  Speaker 4: And to be good like he has, you know, Sam
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  Speaker 4: has to be throwing it on time and and his
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  Speaker 4: touchdown passed to him and he got hit right in
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  Speaker 4: the face after you threw the ball. Those things got
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  Speaker 4: them the win. And you know she was right. The
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  Speaker 4: defensive guys, they they got the win for the team
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  Speaker 4: last night. And they're really good on defense, and they're
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  Speaker 4: really good upfront, and they have a great middle linebacker
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  Speaker 4: right now. So that I think that's going to be
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  Speaker 4: the formula. I think that's going to be the formula
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  Speaker 4: for the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 2: And I know you you've got some thoughts on this,
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  Speaker 2: but let's uh, let me divert this to coach first,
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  Speaker 2: How do you reconcile that you have a red hot
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver that apparently can't get covered because you know,
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  Speaker 2: the defenses are trying to stop a guy that has
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  Speaker 2: two hundred more of your seeding yards than the second
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  Speaker 2: place guy in the National Football League. With trying to
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  Speaker 2: balance out this offense coach going forward, because I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure sure you can't be just a one man attack.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think they are. I think there it's
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  Speaker 4: kind of falling into place but I blame the opposing
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  Speaker 4: defense as good as Houston is on defense, and they're
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  Speaker 4: secondary strong that they couldn't answer. They did not have
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  Speaker 4: an answer for that. And that's what amazes me about
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  Speaker 4: this young man. I mean, he's a really good receiver.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they call plays necessarily to get him
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  Speaker 4: the ball, but their structure of their routes and so
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  Speaker 4: on frees him up. There are certain things on play
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  Speaker 4: action pass and then the crossers and think on the
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  Speaker 4: deep cross that's for him. But he generally speaking, he
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  Speaker 4: doesn't drop the ball. You know, he's very quick. He's
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  Speaker 4: understands zone and man reads in there so he gets open.
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  Speaker 4: He has more room than a lot of receivers. So
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  Speaker 4: you know, I can't say enough about him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he even makes a fifteen yard penalty look cool.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's he's as we've talked about.
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  Speaker 5: I think his frame, uh you know, at six', one
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  Speaker 5: a little over two hundred, pounds he's a mid size
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  Speaker 5: guy with with relatively short, legs which which kind of
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  Speaker 5: prevents him from having elite long, speed but it does
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  Speaker 5: allow him to have extreme. Quickness HIS iq is off the,
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  Speaker 5: chain his. HANDS i, mean you you can't not distract.
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  Speaker 5: HIM i, mean he's gonna land every plane when the
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  Speaker 5: ball's near. Him he tracks the.
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  Speaker 3: Ball like an. Outfielder so there's so.
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  Speaker 5: Much but it look they targeted him fourteen times last,
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  Speaker 5: night and the other starting, Receiver Cooper cup was targeted.
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  Speaker 3: ONCE i just don't. THINK i just don't.
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  Speaker 5: THINK i we you, know discussed this at length and
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  Speaker 5: the post came, well not at, length but we touched
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  Speaker 5: on this last night That. MIKE i JUST i don't
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  Speaker 5: think that the offense is gonna reach its. Potential you,
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  Speaker 5: know the next closest guy was a royal with five,
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  Speaker 5: targets So jigba had almost three times as. Much so
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  Speaker 5: so if we're if we're talking about ways that we
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  Speaker 5: want to maximize the potential of this, OFFENSE i don't
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  Speaker 5: think it's with this balance distributing the ball in the passing.
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  Speaker 4: GAME i THINK i, THINK i think you have a
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  Speaker 4: very good point, there because they need more. Balance, well
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  Speaker 4: you are going to throw two's. OPEN i mean that's
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  Speaker 4: what you're taught to, do and he is very very
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  Speaker 4: capable of getting.
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  Speaker 6: Open, yeah they can't cover, him might as well throw
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  Speaker 6: it to. Him BUT i hear what you're saying, too
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  Speaker 6: you've got to find some other. Options so it's not
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  Speaker 6: so easy to game plan. ANYWAYS i, mean typically if
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  Speaker 6: you lose the turnover battle four to, one it doesn't
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  Speaker 6: usually work out in your. Favor that's a pretty big,
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  Speaker 6: one pretty big no. No and So i'm, wondering, coach
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  Speaker 6: how did how did you like The Cooper cup passer
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  Speaker 6: up fourteen? Zip And you're, like, hey let's try some trick.
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  Speaker 3: Play do you like?
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  Speaker 6: That?
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  Speaker 4: NO i, didn't BUT i wasn't a big trick play.
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  Speaker 4: Person but but you, know you, know he called, it
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  Speaker 4: And i'm surprised That cooper he threw. It you, know
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't. Working they didn't, bite this receiver was, covered
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  Speaker 4: even if the throw has been. Good so at that
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  Speaker 4: stage of the game and how they were, PLAYING i
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  Speaker 4: was very surprised by that.
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  Speaker 2: Play how do you Reconcile sam's night last? NIGHT i
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  Speaker 2: mean he played well at, times but also just a
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  Speaker 2: couple of crazy mistakes.
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  Speaker 5: Himself, yeah, yeah let me let me touch on that
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  Speaker 5: that reverse craft By cup IF i could just for a,
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  Speaker 5: second BECAUSE i got a friend in a text group there's,
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  Speaker 5: like why would you do? That and then just throw
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  Speaker 5: a ten twelve yard? Pass they were trying to Get
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  Speaker 5: Tory horton on a corner route up to the back
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  Speaker 5: of the end zone and and you, Know houston covered,
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  Speaker 5: it and so then the second option was In jigba
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  Speaker 5: as kind of an, outlet and you know he's relatively.
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  Speaker 5: Open certainly he was opened by co back, standards but
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  Speaker 5: you know it's not a quarterback throwing.
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  Speaker 3: It But Sam.
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  Speaker 5: Donald, Look Sam donald is coming off of four straight
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  Speaker 5: games where his passer rating is over one hundred and,
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  Speaker 5: ten so he's at seventy. Four last, night he had
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  Speaker 5: two very critical errors like double, minuses and if you
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  Speaker 5: could have a triple, minus you do.
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  Speaker 3: That the sack in the end zone where.
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  Speaker 5: You know he Tried mike knows That John elways spin
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  Speaker 5: Where elway had as a right handed, quarterback he would
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  Speaker 5: face feel pressure off his left and he would spin
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  Speaker 5: around to his left and and he had a knack
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  Speaker 5: for making plays out of. That there's a time for.
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  Speaker 5: That Sam donald's actually done on some of, that and
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  Speaker 5: he's been good in that, regard but he chose a
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  Speaker 5: poor time to do. It it was going to be
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  Speaker 5: a safety and then he didn't have ball security and
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  Speaker 5: it turns into a. Touchdown and then you, know in
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  Speaker 5: the fourth, down fourth, quarter rather when you're just trying
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  Speaker 5: to nurse a lead that interception that he.
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  Speaker 3: Threw And, mike.
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  Speaker 5: You, know from a play construction, STANDPOINT i know you
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  Speaker 5: don't study the coach's tape and maybe THE tv didn't
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  Speaker 5: give the. Angle But, mike think of to the right
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  Speaker 5: side AS z. Spot you know the concept, well And
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  Speaker 5: chuck And. Buck that's a three man, concept very prevalent
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  Speaker 5: in THE nfl and college And franklin in high. School
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  Speaker 5: but Imagine mike THE z. Spot but instead of the,
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  Speaker 5: corner the tight end running the corner, route the tight
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  Speaker 5: end runs a. Scene and so, normally if you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: go back To chuck And, buck if you're gonna go
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  Speaker 5: against a three deep, defense there's there's a structure where.
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  Speaker 3: You want the.
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  Speaker 5: Corner route to be the high to clear out the.
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  Speaker 5: Corner but if you run him on a, seam you
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  Speaker 5: better as a, quarterback you better jolly be well be.
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  Speaker 5: Ready if you try and throw that. Scene you got
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  Speaker 5: to know that there's nothing outside holding that. Corner the
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  Speaker 5: corners in an outside, leverage but he can bring underneath, that
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  Speaker 5: and you'd want to pull him into the middle you'd
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  Speaker 5: want to have something else occupying that free safety and
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  Speaker 5: really pull them that free. Safety SO i think in
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  Speaker 5: the in the in the construction of the, PLAY i
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  Speaker 5: don't like. It but the quarterback is enough of a
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  Speaker 5: veteran he's got to, Know, hey that corner can fall
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  Speaker 5: in on that seam. Route and that's what happened With,
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  Speaker 5: stingley the third overall pick in the. Draft you, know,
• 12:23
  Speaker 5: ah you, know high ceiling, athlete and he makes a
• 12:26
  Speaker 5: pick that was really. Brutal and SO i would say the, Quarterback, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: MIKE i would, SAY i didn't call.
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  Speaker 3: You a great.
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  Speaker 5: Play it didn't you, know play out the way we.
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  Speaker 5: Wanted but you're the last guy with the football in your.
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  Speaker 5: Hand you're the last eyeballs on this, play and you
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  Speaker 5: got to protect my bad. Call what's your take on?
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  Speaker 4: That, well first of, ALL i never made any bad,
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  Speaker 4: calls that's the first, thing you. Know so but, no
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  Speaker 4: that's what you. Say you, KNOW i, SAID i, Go i'm,
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  Speaker 4: sorry but you, know if they play, this you got
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  Speaker 4: to know. That and then you've got to go someplace
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  Speaker 4: else so you qualify the mistake you made or the
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  Speaker 4: bad play call against that. Defense and and and then
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  Speaker 4: but then you got the ball in your, hands you're
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  Speaker 4: the you're the final. One so uh, yeah that's probably
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  Speaker 4: how i'd handle.
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  Speaker 2: It a lot of good things from him, too, though
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  Speaker 2: coach And, hugh you, know we didn't get to, those
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  Speaker 2: but we should take a couple of. MINUTES i, mean
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  Speaker 2: he's just been playing sensational. Football, yeah he made a
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  Speaker 2: couple minus minus plays the last, night but, Coach Sam
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  Speaker 2: darnold just continues to play good football out.
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  Speaker 4: Here, no he absolutely. Does and and you know, what
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  Speaker 4: He there's no One it's been my, experience and he
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  Speaker 4: knows this because he played the position for so. Long
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  Speaker 4: there's no one that feels it more than the guy
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  Speaker 4: who made the, mistake, nobody and he. Is he has treated,
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  Speaker 4: that you, know his his play that way pretty. Honestly all.
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  Speaker 4: See but he is having a good. Year And i've
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  Speaker 4: said it, Before i'll say it. Again he will get us.
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  Speaker 4: There he will get US i know exactly how, far
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  Speaker 4: but he will get us to the playoffs and we'll
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  Speaker 4: see what. Happens because you, KNOW i really like, him
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  Speaker 4: obviously you can. Tell BUT i think he's having a great.
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  Speaker 3: START i really like him as.
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  Speaker 5: WELL i think that As mike touched on that touchdown
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  Speaker 5: pass was you, know kind of next. Level that's an
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  Speaker 5: extremely high difficulty play to play with that, timing the
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  Speaker 5: defensive look that he. Had you, know he's trying to
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  Speaker 5: get it between the corner and the, safety but but
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  Speaker 5: there had been another safety that had kind of was
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  Speaker 5: right in his. Sellvision he had to throw over him
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  Speaker 5: and to put in that spot with that kind of,
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  Speaker 5: pressure that was an elite throw that you, know the
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  Speaker 5: the go route up the sideline that he just walks
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  Speaker 5: out there doing jigba and all the other. Things and
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  Speaker 5: AND i think that what makes The Demico ryans defense
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  Speaker 5: difficult to go against is similar to The seattle. Defense
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  Speaker 5: they don't play a lot of, man they play a
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  Speaker 5: lot of, zone but they do a lot of zone.
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  Speaker 5: Pressures they bring guys and it puts a it puts
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  Speaker 5: a strain on you to just decipher where the pressure's
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  Speaker 5: coming from and where the windows. Are and, so you,
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  Speaker 5: know he didn't have his best, game but he played
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  Speaker 5: well enough to win given the circumstances and how well
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  Speaker 5: the defense.
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  Speaker 2: Played seahawks do win twenty seven to nineteen over The
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  Speaker 2: Houston texans last night to move to five and two
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  Speaker 2: on the season and they get to head into the.
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  Speaker 2: Buy on that, note It's Monday Morning. Quarterback it's brought
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  Speaker 1: two big dogs here with us barking across the.
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  Speaker 3: Street. Yeah after football Knowledge.
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks twenty seven nineteen winners over The Houston texans last.
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  Speaker 2: Night we'll get into The Sea hawk defense last night
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  Speaker 2: here in a. Moment but, COACH i want to start
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  Speaker 2: with your your favorite, topic the officials twenty two penalties
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  Speaker 2: last night one hundred and ninety eight yards and can
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  Speaker 2: you explain to.
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  Speaker 3: Me how that wasn't a? Safety ON.
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  Speaker 2: Cj, Stroud do you have any idea how that was
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  Speaker 2: not a.
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  Speaker 3: Safety, NO i.
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  Speaker 4: Don't answer that. Question that was but that came FROM
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  Speaker 4: i think that came from someplace. ELSE i could be
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  Speaker 4: wrong about, that but you, know they get the you,
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  Speaker 4: know they're going to Phone New york and all. That
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  Speaker 4: whatever they. DO i don't know what they do. Now
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  Speaker 4: so that that's what. Happened but, NO i THOUGHT i
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  Speaker 4: thought that was a safety all the, way and that
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  Speaker 4: was a big. Play it was going to be a
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  Speaker 4: big play. Too but, NO i want before we get
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  Speaker 4: into the, officials deep dive into the. OFFICIALS i want
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  Speaker 4: to talk about something you said that earlier about about you,
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  Speaker 4: know and he does this to, me So i'm going
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  Speaker 4: to do it to. Him you have you? Have he
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  Speaker 4: Grated Sam darnold a minus, one minus, two minus. Three
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  Speaker 4: no one gets to that, level, Nobody he never he
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  Speaker 4: never got to that. Level he never had a. Three
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: SO i thought that was that was a, telling very
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: telling understanding of how that play. Went so enough of.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: That so the, officiating it it's it's it's it's taken
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: away from games in my. OPINION i you, KNOW i
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: am studying the film like like you, does but you
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: know it it's too much and certain CREWS i know
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: some of the officials that were working WHEN i was.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Working now they're. Referees they weren't referees at the. Time
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: but and And i'm not. SURPRISED i just don't LIKE
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: i don't like. It it's it's disruptive to the flow
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: of the. Game and and there's a lot of things
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: that are that are really, close and it seems like
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: they're calling it too.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: CLOSE i like that you threw a flag on huh
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: to start the segment.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Here, uh you forgive, me forgive, me but you're still
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: you're still the. Best forgive.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: ME i saw so many triple minuses on my my grade.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: SHEET i just thought, that you, know its like again
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Out Scooby.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Snacks it's just weird for.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Me just like on the safety play that you could
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: be called for forward progress at the one when you're running.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Backwards do you get forward progress when you're running? Backwards
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: i'm not.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah and his whole body except for his big toe
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: was in the end On.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it's very.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Strange all, right let's talk about the Defense hugh last. Night,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: MAN i, mean you allowed just two yards per carry
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: from the running. Backs you got three, sacks you knocked
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: down like a dozen balls in mid. Flight what was
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: your take on how well The seahawks defense. Played, yeah,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: well first of, All i've learned three.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Things i've learned that ice is cold and wheels, around
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: and The seahawks can stop the run like they. Are
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: they're number one in THE nfl fewest rushing yards per.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Game they're tied for number one in rush yards per
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: tamp you, know SO i think That mike McDonald would,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: say everything that we need to do starts, with you,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: know creating the the the favorable downs and third, down
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: the longer, yard and you know it starts with stopping the.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Run so you got to commend.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: That BUT i think For mike McDonald's, part you, know
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: coming off of The Tampa bay game where he criticized
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: himself AND i commend him for having done, that there
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: was more action in terms of Scheme mike last.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Night and here's WHAT i, Mean chuck And.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Buck anything over four man rush is considered a blitz
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: or a dog in THE. Nfl so five man, rush
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: The seahawks defense come in averaging five point five per.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Game remember that five point. Five last night they had
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: a season. High they had thirteen where they rushed, five
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: of WHICH. C. J stroud was seven to eleven and
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: sixty two yards just to seventy nine passer rating in
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: they get two sacks on those six man. Rush all,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: season The seahawks have had four plays with a six man,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: rush two Against, arizona two Against New. Orleans last night
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: they had five And stroud went one for five for five,
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: yards had. Interception that's a rating of. Zero if you
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: took five passes and you drop back and through them
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: to the, cheerleaders you'd have a passer rating of thirty
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: nine because you would have you, know you wouldn't have
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: an interception on the. Board so they created a passer
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: rating of zero on the times they rushed six. Guys
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: havoc plays defined as, sacks, interceptions, passes blocked, passes, defense
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: and tackles for. Loss their previous high was. Thirteen they average.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Eleven this is The seahawk. Defense last night they had twenty.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: One they forced twenty one havoc plays and as a,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: percentage the season high had been twenty. Percent last night
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: they had thirty. Percent So, mike you saw a MORE
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: i don't know Aggressive mike McDonald in terms of blitzeing
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: and zone blitzes and, pressers and on a squeeze formation
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: they brought a double cat both corners coming off the
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: edge back them guys. OFF i, mean they threw a
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: lot at That houston offense and for the most part
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: it was.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Working.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely when you're looking at How stroud played the.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Game mike obviously is a, good smart defensive, coach and
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: they saw something on film that the, pressure the pressure
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: bothers every. Quarterback but the pressure they got last night
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: their defensive front is really. SOMETHING i, mean they're really,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: good you, know AND i know where you got that cheerleader.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Line that's Some Jerry. Glanville but let's talk about something.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Else, yeah some of those those coaching, idioms they get
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: burned in your memory for.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, coach you had mentioned something earlier about and
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: this team has a good inside. LINEBACKER i mean it
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: kind of was documented last year after when they made
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: the move to go Get Ernist, jones that that's when
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: the defense started to gel and turned into what it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: IS i, MEAN i think that the you know we
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: know here In, Seattle Bobby, WAGNER i, mean just there's
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: People Ray Lewis is And Michael Singletaries Mike singletary is
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: the guys how important inside linebacker can be to obviously
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: stop in the, run but even drop him back and
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: getting a pick like he did. Yesterday what is it
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: About Ernest jones that kind of makes it to where
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: that's one of the things that pops out of your.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Mouth?
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: First and they got a really good inside, Linebacker.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Well he's he's, statistically he's involved in a lot of
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: things and makes a lot of, tackles first of. All,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: secondly to do, that you have to have a really
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: good understanding of what your defense is running and how
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: you're going to position. People and he's responsible for positioning
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: a lot of the guys in that front, Seven so
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: that sticks out of. Me then his, ability he's got good.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: HANDS i mean not every linebacker can catch every ball
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: throne to, him that's for, sure but he has shown
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: he's got really good hands and can make those. Plays
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: so they needed. That i'm the SURPRISE i have buck
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: is how they got? Him how would? They how WOULD
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: i forget who he was? With? Yeah not so? Surprise you,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: know well they you know, what but how do you
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: get a player like? That and the you know and
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: and blessed you, know kudos to them because they saw
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: something they liked and he's playing like.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That he know what was your play or player that
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: popped for you last?
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Night?
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Uh, well a couple of. Things first of, all, PLAYER
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: i think we got to Mention Nick amm And. Worry
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: uh you, know he reminds Me mike of a, quarterback
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: a rookie quarterback with like a blazing and you coach
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: one in far but just like This howardzer of a
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: cannon which allows him to be read a little bit,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: late like oh, okay that's Not Joe.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Montana beautiful timing and.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Anticipation he's a little, late but he's got such a
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: rocket he can just he can knife the ball into
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: a window even though he's. Late Even, worry you can
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: see that his instincts are improving every. Week but sometimes
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: he's just a fraction of a second late reading. It
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: but he's so dogon athletic he can turn. It it's
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: graceful for a tall. Man he covers a lot of.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Grounds so that guy has got star written all over
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: and that would be a thought on a. Player and
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: by the, Way Murph Byern murphy is really really coming.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: On so these young guys on the, defense he didn't Have.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Witherspoon the young guys on the defense are really. Impressing
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: but for, me the play of the, game it was
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: a sequence there with three minutes to go in the third,
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Quarter seattle up just twenty to, twelve and The texans
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: had a lead off the left side on third and.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: One seattle stuffed him and then they went for the
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: at their own thirty. Nine they went forward on fourth
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: down down again late third, Quarter seahawks up by eight
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: and they had a loss of a yard on fourth and.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: One that, defense everybody in there Got DeMarcus, Lawrence, Nuoso,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Murphy Jaron reid like like everybody was just there to
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: stuff that and and then from, there with a short,
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: field The seahawks five six plays later scored the touchdown
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: that that was with the the injigba pass interference that
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: put the ball on the one they bang it in
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: there to get the twenty seven to twelve. LEAD i
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: think that little sequence late in the third, Quarter mike
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: was kind of.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: THAT i put.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: POGUH i know there's a beverage my kids used to
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: drink pog, and BUT i put pog and that's.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Play player of the. Game what is it pineapple and and?
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Guava what is? It bucky?
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Pineapple what it? Is?
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: So SO I i think about that juice every TIME
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: i write.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: It BUT i put pog right in that.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: Sequence, mike fourth and, one you get that, that you
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: get to create the short field and then you get
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: the fifteen point lead late in the third.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Quarter.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: YEAH i was just you, Know i'm with you on,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: that and that was a key part of the. Game
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: but WHEN i did with play calling sometimes that going for. It,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Okay i'm gonna go gay with. That but the place
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: they were, IN i, mean it just it didn't seem
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: like they practiced it very much or they are given
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: how the game was going and how the defensive line
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: for The seahawks was taking, charge that that would be
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: the call you'd, make and it hurt.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Him.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah Mike homran is with. Us hugh millanis WITH Us Coach.
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  Speaker 2: Kjrfm All, Right final segment here on This, Tuesday monday
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: morning quarterback session here for the last, hour first three
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: hours talking about The mariners season coming to a. Close, so,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Man i'm glad to be nearly through This tuesday. Show
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: take a breath here at the end of the, program
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: but we're gonna savor our final segment with Coach holmren
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and also With Hugh. Millen it's one last thing. Time
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: what do you got for you?
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Here, Well i'll give you.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: ONE i, MEAN i think he's as long as A
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: mariner fan as anybody out, there and everybody knows he
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: was the original Show hey O tani of the Greatest Pacific.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: Northwest so how you feel in show hey breed love
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: after on a day after The mariners season comes to A,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: WELL i got.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Two, thoughts and, YEAH i was there year one yelling
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: my lungs out in the outfield for group. Group BUT
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: i would say two thoughts number one to put it into.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Context in a nineteen Year Major league baseball, career Each
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: row had five postseason extra base. Hits George springer has
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: has twenty three postseason home runs and DID i see
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: that broadcast?
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Right nine of? Them or take the lead home?
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: Runs So SO i just hope That bizardo is the
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: guy that you would say that's the best guy we,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: have because it's hard for me as a layman to
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: not want that that brass frisbee coming in at.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Him and then.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: The other point WAS i can't get it out of
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: my head The Isaiah Kiner filepa grounder like, You, mike
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: you know when you did you script rocks out on
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: a smooth river or lake and you try to count, like,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: oh that was twenty three skips right before it.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Died that's that ground. Ball that ground ball had like
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: twenty three.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Bounces and how does how does the short stop not
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: get to? THAT i don't, know BUT i probably didn't
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: see that. Right you, know it's just me being salty
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: about the. Events but but, yeah that that that's springer
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: throwing the. Springer, LIKE i Hope bizarto was the guy
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: that you think is the best, guy because that's gonna
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: haunt you if it wasn't the best.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Guy.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: YEAH i agree with both of those. Things and we
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: brought UP jp not getting to that ball last night
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: in the postgame. Show we didn't talk about it. Today
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: off the, BAT i thought that was a double. Play i'm, like,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: oh there you, go got the ground ball that you,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: needed and he didn't even come close to. It it
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: was SO i don't know where he was positioned or
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: if he was just that slow laterally to move.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Positioned he was he, was he was mid or even
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: slightly shaded the second because of the hole between first and.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Second, yeah all.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Right topic for another, time another thing to be frustrated.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: About all, right, coach we'll close out with.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: You one last thing.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Here seahawks five and two on the. Season there are
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: only two. Losses probably should have beat the forty nine,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: ers could have very easily beat The Tampa Bay. Buccaneers
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and they've beaten some pretty decent teams The steelers by,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Fourteen jaguar In jacksonville by, eight and even That texans,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: TEAM i think is not a bad team that they
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: won by. Eight so how good are you feeling if
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: You're mike McDonald headed into the bye week with a
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: five and two record.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: At this, STAGE i think he's feeling very very. Good you,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: know it'd be interesting to see how he handles this bye.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Week that's kind of always an interesting. Things teams handle it,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: differently whether you get players day offs or you, know
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: how you do. That, so but you, KNOW i have
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: a lot of confidence in him and what he's, done
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: and they're off to a great. START i just want
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: to mention one thing too about The. MARINERS i was
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: watching last night AND i told You katy couldn't watch
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: it because she gets emotional about. It but then after the,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: game they focused in on the. Players And i've been
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: there where you're in the Super bowl or you're in
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: a championship game and you lose for whatever, reason you,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: lose but the feeling you have it's hard to. Describe
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: bouncing back from something like that is the. Challenge and
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: they had a great, year really a great. Year everyone
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: was hoping so much that they do something. Farther BUT
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: i got to give him, credit and BUT i was
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: kind of my takeaway WAS i was feeling the same
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: pain that they were at, times.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Painful, night painful. Evening.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Uh For mariner fans, everywhere there's no question about get that, close,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: man to get that. Close all, right, gentlemen excellent stuff as,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Always thank you very, much AND i guess we'll get
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: back to a normal schedule going.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Forward, Now, yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: We have to buy it to talk about next. Week
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: we'll talk about to buy what did? You what did
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: h do during his bye? Week that's WHAT i want to.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Know he analyzed, Films that's WHAT i think he.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Did plug in the.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Computer probably wrote a letter To Roger goodell about the goat.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Herders that it makes, sense we Kindled Jerry.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Glanville probably throw balls to the.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Cheerleader please what he? Did all, right, gentlemen thank you very,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: much great as. Always all, right, guys take.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Care all.
• 33:05
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• 33:10
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• 33:14
  Speaker 2: had in quite some.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Time so we'll look forward to that tomorrow at six.
• 33:18
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