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ITB: Eagles Schedule Intel, Part 3: How Do Eagles Match Up Vs. Steelers, Cards, Colts? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody?
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: It is Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan and we continue
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: to do our schedule analysis series. We are now into
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: part three of the four part podcast, and what we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do is because we all basically covered the first
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: nine weeks of the season in the first two and
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: then the Eagles have the bye week week ten, so
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: they come out of the Buy against the Steelers. Then
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: they'll do the Cowboys. We've already done Eagles Cowboys. So
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  Speaker 1: really we're gonna do Steelers Cardinals week thirteen, Cults in
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia week fourteen in this podcast and really go inside
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: these three games. And Adam, there's something cool about going
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: into the Buy, having that reset, that rest, and coming
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: out and facing Steelers, which is always a weird game.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's very lopsided on either side. But I always
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: enjoy Eagles versus Steelers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some weird stuff, some very weird stuff over the years.
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  Speaker 2: And gosh, the game in Philly when Rothsberger and b
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: Doc you might remember, I think it was early in
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: Rothsberger's career. I think they made the big play against him,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, it's it definitely. I mean
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  Speaker 2: they are in the other conference, but they have an
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  Speaker 2: interesting history. Yeah, if I recall correctly, folks will remember
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  Speaker 2: this one. Was it nineteen ninety nine or two thousand?
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: Did the Eagles have an on side kick against Steelers?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that one might be a little before my time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, two thousand, it was two thousand. The Eagles wound
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  Speaker 2: up beating the Steelers in overtime twenty six, twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: But I'd have to remember was an Acres on side
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  Speaker 2: kick for folks will remember who really? We mean Jodah camera,
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  Speaker 2: he'll know it. We should get camera in here. But anyway, Yeah,
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: so yeah, this is and the Steelers we're gonna get
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  Speaker 2: into this. They're gonna be They're gonna be better. Rogers
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  Speaker 2: is back, They're gonna be better, coach, better schemes defensively
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  Speaker 2: and offensively. Mike McCarthy is back being a head coach
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: where he grew up in Pittsburgh. It's kind of a
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  Speaker 2: cool story. Yep. And they won to McKay lemon will
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  Speaker 2: explain why they won him, Kaye Lemon, it's interesting McCarthy
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  Speaker 2: was involved in it though, was in his decision, but
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  Speaker 2: he wanted him. So this is gonna be a fun matchup.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, real quick. Only one time in the last four
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  Speaker 1: or five, six seven matchups between these two teams has
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  Speaker 1: it been a one possession game, and that was twenty
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  Speaker 1: twelve when the Eagles lost sixteen to fourteen in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 1: But the Eagles have won the last two games. Both
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  Speaker 1: have obviously been in Philadelphia twenty seven thirteen, thirty five thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: There was a thirty eight twenty nine win by the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers in twenty twenty. There was a thirty four to
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  Speaker 1: three win by the Eagles in twenty sixteen. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: just so mind boggling to me that these two franchises
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  Speaker 1: that are constantly in the playoffs, constantly good well rod organizations,
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  Speaker 1: they play each other and they did just they demolish
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  Speaker 1: each other. It's just a very odd thing.
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  Speaker 2: That game two years ago, Hurts was phenomenal right in
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  Speaker 2: Week fifteen, because they actually shut Barkley down. They did
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  Speaker 2: a good, very good job of Steelers did but Aj
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  Speaker 2: Brown DeVante Smith both went over one hundred yards. Hurts
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  Speaker 2: was so aggressive throwing the football. It was one of
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  Speaker 2: those game. Was that the game we said, this is
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  Speaker 2: what you all wanted to see was that the one?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was, I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: Ye, I loved it that Rice smiles laughing, like tell him,
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: tell him, man, he was great in that game. And
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: it's one of those games where you go, why can't
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  Speaker 2: he be this aggressive? Right? Why can't he make these
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  Speaker 2: tight window throws? They weren't all deep throws?
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: No, that's you're right. There was a lot of no
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  Speaker 1: huddle and a lot of over the middle stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was with Kellen Moore bother So moving forward
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  Speaker 2: here Pittsburgh with brand new offensive defensive scheme. So this
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  Speaker 2: is a West Coast offense. Arthur Smith technically runs one
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  Speaker 2: of Someone who worked for him told me, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know a tree he was running because it
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  Speaker 2: was awful. He's just not a good play caller, bad schemer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: very dry McCarthy as. Someone told me he really needs
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  Speaker 2: a slot receiver. He wanted mackay Lemon to be that guy.
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  Speaker 2: So they got beat out by the Eagles for him.
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  Speaker 2: So they drafted Jeremy Bernard from Alabama, who will be
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  Speaker 2: their slot receiver. And really, when you look at it,
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  Speaker 2: you've got two tall receivers who really are not you
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  Speaker 2: could like Pittman can line up on but he's not
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  Speaker 2: a slot receiver. They needed a true slot and that's
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  Speaker 2: why they wanted McKay lemon, and McCarthy kind of told
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  Speaker 2: their personnel staff, Hey, I need this guy. What it
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  Speaker 2: was in his call. Omar Khan makes the decisions with personnel,
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  Speaker 2: their general manager. But you know, overall their offense is
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: gonna look different. They're gonna have a tanhem of Jalen Warren,
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  Speaker 2: Rico dalle at running back. Caleb Johnson you have to
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  Speaker 2: won where he fits in because he got no run
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  Speaker 2: last year with Arthur Smith third round or from Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I kind of think that I
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  Speaker 1: give everyone on the Steelers offense a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a clean slate because, for whatever reason, Arthur Smith offense
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  Speaker 1: and you know, bad being a bad play caller and
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  Speaker 1: being married to certain kind of like schemes and formations,
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  Speaker 1: whether or not they were productive. I mean we saw
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  Speaker 1: that even in Atlanta and how he used Pajon Robinson
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason. I always feel like maybe I listened
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  Speaker 1: to a little bit too much sports talk in Philadelphia area.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like people view Mike McCarthy as a clown coach,
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  Speaker 1: as a joke, And I don't understand that he's been
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  Speaker 1: a very successful coach. He's won a Super Bowl, he
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  Speaker 1: has ten double digit win seasons. He won twelve games
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  Speaker 1: with Dallas, three straight. And you know how difficult it
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: can be to win in Dallas with all the other
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  Speaker 1: things going on in the front. I mean, listen, they
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  Speaker 1: have talent, but they also have a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: going on up front. Like he's a good coach, and
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  Speaker 1: he's particularly good at working with all types of quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: and dictating offensive tempo. I think he's always been very
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  Speaker 1: good at that, and I see for the Steelers going
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: from Arthur Smith to Mike McCarthy is a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know understand why people bash McCarthy. I mean,
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: he did win a Super Bowl. Who knows, But he's
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  Speaker 1: not perfect by any stretch of the means. He is
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  Speaker 1: a little bit old school. But more often than not,
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  Speaker 1: you give him a talent a roster, especially of offensive players,
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  Speaker 1: which the Steelers have. They're not great, but they've got
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  Speaker 1: some talented offensive players, and he'll make do with what
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  Speaker 1: he's got. And you look at the wide receiver situation,
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: all right, he's got two good ones. Got Pittman he's
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  Speaker 1: got Metcalf. They want the McKay lemon. We know that
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  Speaker 1: they'll have they draft Bernard, they still have Roman Wilson
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  Speaker 1: that they'll try to get something out of. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, by the time the season starts, they may
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  Speaker 1: have a different a veteran's number three receiver who knows.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: You know, they don't have to be done remaking that
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  Speaker 1: they have a good tight end with friar Mouth. Ist
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  Speaker 1: is Washington hurt Adam or is he coming back from
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  Speaker 1: the injury that big huge?
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  Speaker 2: Not sure, but he'll be that. Yeah, I'm not sure,
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  Speaker 2: but what happened there was darn and Washington's the y
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  Speaker 2: tight end. He is a Mount Washington as you call him.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen him in training camp. He's just a huge
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  Speaker 2: dude who's more athletic than you think. But friar Mouth
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  Speaker 2: under Arthur Smith just just completely minimized. Remember they brought
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  Speaker 2: in Jonah Smith or Arthur Smithy wound up coaching him
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  Speaker 2: in three different areas Tennessee, Atlanta, and in Pittsburgh. And
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  Speaker 2: Smith didn't know it. He just didn't know how to
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  Speaker 2: get these guys to football. Okay, it's ridiculous, it's just
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  Speaker 2: spand coaching yep. And McCarthy knows how to get the
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  Speaker 2: tight end the football. Remember Jamichael Finley many years ago. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: some other tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Jake Ferguson. I have eight years under McCarthy in Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll get the ball. Yeah, I mean fry Moth
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  Speaker 2: for fantasy. He's a guy who want to look at
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  Speaker 2: late in your drafts. But so my understanding with Caleb
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  Speaker 2: Johnson was Arthur Smith was more of a outside zone
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  Speaker 2: set of inside zone play caller in the run game
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  Speaker 2: and it did not fit Caleb Johnson with the other
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  Speaker 2: running backs right, and it was a disaster. And the
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  Speaker 2: hope is now with McCarthy that Johnson will have a
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  Speaker 2: bigger role where he had no role last year. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the other thing on offense is, you know the offensive
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  Speaker 2: line to keep building on it. Fatano iron anchor, who's
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: their first rounders? A little bit raw? Uh. They don't
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  Speaker 2: know exactly when Brodick Jones will be coming back from
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  Speaker 2: his injury, so it's going to be Fatano probably right
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  Speaker 2: now at left iron ac court right this Mason McCormick
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  Speaker 2: was just a really interesting player who was a fourth
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  Speaker 2: round out of South Dakota State who start. He'll start
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  Speaker 2: it at right guard. This guy was much belign to
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  Speaker 2: the scouting community. Nobody really liked him. But I give
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  Speaker 2: I got to give the steelersh credit. They saw. This
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  Speaker 2: is what's great about scouting. We could like a player
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: you don't like, and sometimes it turns out to be
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  Speaker 2: right for us and wrong for you. But hey, Mace
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  Speaker 2: McCormick is the right guard. He's a good football player.
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, Isaac Sayamalin moves on to the Cardinals, getting Stunker,
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  Speaker 2: the rookie, the third rounder will have to compete for
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  Speaker 2: that left guard job. Jack Driscoll, by the ways back
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: he was with them laster coming back from the ankle injury.
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  Speaker 2: Zach Frazier they think is an all pro. Like he's
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: one of the best centers at football, not just one
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  Speaker 2: of the best young centers. And he's good yep, yep,
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  Speaker 2: as you said, out of West Virginia. So this has
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  Speaker 2: the makings with Metcalf, with Pittman, with Bernard. If he
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  Speaker 2: could be that slot receiver Rouman, Wilson could play inside
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  Speaker 2: as well. He can do both. The former staff buried Wilson,
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  Speaker 2: they wouldn't play him. He had a couple of injuries
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: over his short career. But he's in year three. But
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: they've got enough here to have a much improved offense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I like this offensive line. I
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  Speaker 1: do wonder if when Roger Jones comes back, if they
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: have any plan to move him maybe to that left
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  Speaker 1: guard spot, because he has struggle all the times at tackle,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe they can sort of Machai becton him into
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  Speaker 1: the you know, take a huge man and just just
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  Speaker 1: make him a guard. Wouldn't surprise me if that was
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  Speaker 1: the case. And when they put Washington and by the way,
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: you got to say it, like the Pittsburgh at the insurs,
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: it's Washington right Mount Washington on the field. They're a big,
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: big team, and they give Aaron Rodgers some extra protection.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, are they deep? No, not really, But
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: they've got enough talent that if they stay healthy and
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy does what he does, then this should be
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  Speaker 1: a pretty pretty functional offense. We'll be interested to see
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  Speaker 1: how much gas that Aaron Rodgers has left in the tank.
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  Speaker 2: But he showed you.
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  Speaker 1: Last year he can still rip the scene. He doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make as many deep throws as he used to. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't throw on the run like he used to. He's
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: trying to get rid of the ball quickly. But that's
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  Speaker 1: actually a good thing with this McCarthy offense. So I
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: think it'll there'll be more harmony between the play caller
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  Speaker 1: and the quarterback. But he's not going to be a
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: he's not going to carry the offense on his back anyways.
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  Speaker 1: Those days are gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and their hope is that running game will will help.
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  Speaker 2: But now looking at the the good thing is the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles have a toss pair of corners with Mitchell and
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  Speaker 2: with Woolen or certainly one of the top YEP quarterback
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  Speaker 2: groups in terms of size. Yeah, and with the move
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  Speaker 2: of Degene to safety, you can match up against them
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  Speaker 2: like you. You've got the size, the athleticism to do it.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: That's a good thing. And if depending on how much
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: eleven personnel that they have, if Bernard's ready to play
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  Speaker 2: the slot, they may play a lot eleven comparatively to
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  Speaker 2: under Arthur Smith, who's not a big eleven guy, So
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: that could change a little bit. They'll they'll get an
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: idea early. But to me, with the Eagles front, with
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: the Joemo Davis, Carter, Grenard Hunt or Smith, we'll see
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  Speaker 2: about mccooba. Overall, the Eagles matchup very well against their
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: offense and offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it almost makes me wonder, you know, in
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: this lead, as we get into the second half of
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: the season, would the Steelers try to just see if
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: they can expose the Eagles a little bit in the
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  Speaker 1: run game with how big they are on the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we've seen the Eagles have some lapses
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  Speaker 1: in run defense, so we'll have to see if that
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  Speaker 1: gets short up this year. How about defense, Obviously, the
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: Steelers have a really good They always have a good
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: front seven, but I really like their defensive front, Adam.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they got a lot of guys who can
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  Speaker 1: play ball.
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  Speaker 2: So what I was told is that they were really
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: bad on the back end, communication wise, back and yeah,
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: they were running, they were running Tomlin's scheme and they
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: just could not get it. They just could not get
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: Terro Austin was running. There was the defense coordinator, but
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: it was Tomlin's defense. Too many big plays. Joey Porter,
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: very inconsistent. Joey Porter junior now on the final vers
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  Speaker 2: rookie deal. Jamal Dean is there now, Tall corner. Lots
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: of injuries, Jayalen Ramseley plays at High browl They'll play
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  Speaker 2: some nickel, they'll play some safety, he'll play some corner,
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  Speaker 2: but they've given up some plays. Now. The thing is
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  Speaker 2: they're changing their scheme. Yes, it's the thirty four uner
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Graham, but the philosophy and the coverages are going
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  Speaker 2: to be different. Right Tewan Brisker comes over from Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: He'll be one of the starting safeties with the oft
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  Speaker 2: injured of battalented Deshaun Elliott, and they drafted Dalen Everett,
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  Speaker 2: who's a corner from Georgia. Has also got good size,
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  Speaker 2: so they've got the size to match up against anybody.
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  Speaker 2: But the question is is TJ Watt by the way,
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  Speaker 2: and this plays into it with their secondary he turns
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  Speaker 2: thirty two in October, so he'll be thirty two by
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  Speaker 2: the time he goes play him. He was not the player.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: He was not the lead player he once was. Last
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  Speaker 2: season he wasn't even close to it. Still very good,
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: but not that player. Alex Highsmith or the subject of
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: trade rumors, and Nate Herberg's younger brother, Nick Herbrigg. Production
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  Speaker 2: by snap is phenomenal. One of the best third edges
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  Speaker 2: of the National Footballaga and Jack Sawyer, workmanlike guy out
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  Speaker 2: of Ohio State with fourth Ronald last year, so they
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  Speaker 2: could get after it. And I really like this defense
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  Speaker 2: corner Patrick Graham very sound, his defensive competitive. You look
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: at the Raider defenses, one of the least talented teams
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  Speaker 2: in the National FOOTBA League on defense, but very very discipplined.
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  Speaker 1: He's the best defensive coordinator that nobody talks about. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I remember when he was with the Giants and
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  Speaker 1: they had not too much to work with and he
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  Speaker 1: was out there like putting some pretty good defenses out there.
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  Speaker 1: So he's good. He is really good, and he's actually
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  Speaker 1: got a he's got a good front. They're a little
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: long in the tooth, like you mentioned with with Hayward
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  Speaker 1: with Watt, but they can rotate guys. Harmon wound up
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: having a nice rookie year.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: He's good. Yeah, he had a knee injury, then he
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: got healthy. Yep. They brought in Sebastian Joseph Date you
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: might remember him amount of Rutgers, sure, so he'll be
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: that first guy off the band a linebacker wise. Blake
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Harrison you might remember from the Ravens, is pretty good
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: backup Queen and Wilson and Peyton Wilson has been better
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  Speaker 2: than they Cale Holcome's there. So yeah, you talk about
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  Speaker 2: their depth, They've got plenty of depth at inside backer. Now,
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: remember Patrick Graham runs his version of Belichick's defense, so
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  Speaker 2: they are multiple. They sometimes will play to the like
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  Speaker 2: they'll make adjustments for the opponent and there in their
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  Speaker 2: study and what they do during the week during practice,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: and they'll run that that's what Belichick would do. Greaton's
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  Speaker 2: just really smart. He's he's I agree with that, he's
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  Speaker 2: really really good. This is a tough matchup. This to
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  Speaker 2: me is a very even matchup. And by the way,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: and I know the Eagles have this. This is just
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  Speaker 2: the way the schedule worked out. The Steelers have Thereby.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see Thereby is in I think it's in week
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  Speaker 2: I think it's two weeks before the Eagles play them
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  Speaker 2: on double check.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, the thing about this team, Adam, in a
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: broader sense, is that they're just a I mean, the
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: quarterback's ancient. Jayleen Ramsey is an old guy. Uh Cam
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  Speaker 1: Hayward is an older guy.
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  Speaker 2: T J.
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  Speaker 1: Watt, as you mentioned, is an older guy. Patrick Queen
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  Speaker 1: has been playing football for for quite a while now
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  Speaker 1: they're really kind of lacking in that young game changing
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  Speaker 1: talent and even some of their younger guys or like
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: a Michael Pittman, he's not old, he's not young. He's
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: not an explosive player. He's a good player, it's not
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  Speaker 1: very explosive. They don't have guys that just like you
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  Speaker 1: when when they touch the ball, they can score from
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  Speaker 1: anywhere type of guys. And so I think that they're
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: gonna have to be a very methodical team. And I
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: do think the Eagles will be able to put the
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: ball in the like if Barkley is having a comeback year,
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  Speaker 1: if DeVante Smith is truly the wide receiver one they
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the Eagles have more explosive elements. So you get the
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  Speaker 1: ball in their hand against this team and lead, it
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  Speaker 1: could get it could it could snowball quickly because they
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: can't just sit there and light up the scoreboard.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: They don't have that. They don't have an explosive back,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: they don't have the explosive receiver. I mean, well, I'd
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: say this metcalf is a his problem and the reason
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: why he was not draft in the first round. Yes,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: it was partially the concern about the neck. But he's
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: he's got problems throttling down. He's not a guy's gonna
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: catch a lot of short air passes. You're gonna get
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: him on slants where he uses his big frame, or
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: nine roundes or seven rounds, but more nine routes. He's
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: just not that guy. He's not a possession receiver. Now,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Roman Wilson, they had high hopes for when they drafted him.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Apparently he's got great hands, but the former staff got
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: down on them early because he got hurt. If your
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: young players who explained to me and with Tomlin and
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: you get hurt, it's like out of sight Ada mine unfortunately.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: But he could accelerate after the catch. But you're right,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: they don't have that guy. So yeah, the Steelers, by
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: the way, when you look at the schedule, it's interesting
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the way it breaks down. Their bye week is in
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: week nine, so they play the Eagles, and this game
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: is a week eleven, by the way, November twenty second
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: and four to twenty five. The week before say divisional game,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: they're at the Bengals. Oh well, come off the motion
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: of that game. You see how the Steelers who have
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: to travel to Philly. Of course, it's a very short flight.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I've taken it many times. It's less than forty five minutes.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But they got to go on the road and a
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: non divisional game after having emotional game at the Bengals
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the week.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Before, right, And that's a four to twenty five kickoff
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: on CBS in Week eleven there between the Eagles and
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: the Steelers. Week twelve is the Cowboys. We did that.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: We went inside that matchup in are Part two. So
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead to Week thirteen. The Eagles do
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: have to travel and it ain't a little plane ride.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: It's all the way out to the desert to face
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals four h five kickoff here on the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: East Coast. This Cardinals team, man, I know that. Listen.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I think I told you this in a podcast in
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the off season. I was really intrigued with their head
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: coach higher I think it's gonna work out. But they've
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: they're they're far there. There are a couple of years
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: away from being a couple of years away.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Even with my favorite phrase, even with.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Some decent offseason Actus, you know, I like the saym Alu,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I would still think he's got some gas left in
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the tank, Kendrick Bourne, gives him somebody opposite Marvin Harrison,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: and and you know, Michael Wilson had a really nice
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: year last year when one, yeah, really out of nowhere.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: So but like you know, you're looking at this and
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you're saying that Jacobe Prissett, they got some holes on defense.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not I'm not quite sure how
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: good this team is going to be in the first
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: year of the floor.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Well, they've got one explosive player at Suremia Love and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: he's you know, you've got Algier who's the power pack,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: James Connor who could help them the variety of waste.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Trey penz Is simply didn't work out. They missed on
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: him his third round or two years ago, wouldn't surprise me.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: And off he's traded by training camp or for some
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: team that loses a running back of training camp due
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to injury. Maybe that that they could find a home
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: for him. But yeah, it's when you really look at it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Born goers to be their slot. Marvin Harrison has been
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: a disappointment. So far better last year than his rookie season,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: but he's nowhere near what they thought. Bourne figures to
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: be their slot Wilson opposite Harrison. Mike Wilson did a
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: great job last season, pressed into service. Now he's on
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the fone ofvers rookie deal Trey McBride, who's he's been
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: there passing game quite frankly since he was drafted by
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Steve Kaim at twenty two in Mantis fourth a GM
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: got him. Yeah, Steve Km's last draft class. Uh yeah,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: so this is crazy. Jacoby Brissett technically as of now
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: until he gets his contract adjusted and it will be
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew makes more than Jacoby Brissett, so I could
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: see why Jacob Brissett's kind of pissed off.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would imagine that. And by the way,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: does James Connor want to be a number three running
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: back at the stage of his career behind Love? I mean, well,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I'm saying like maybe he can ask for a release
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: or to be true, I just feel like he's still
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a pretty decent running back and he'll probably be somebody's
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: number two somewhere. So I don't even know him. Yeah three,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: by the time.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: He could still play. I believe he took I'm gonna
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: check his contract. I think he took a pay cut
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: to come back, Wait, Matt Prior. I just noticed that
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Matt Pryor is now with the car. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Connor, yeah, Connor.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Let me just don't Yeah, because his total cash is
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: eight million. That can't that. I got to think that
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: they asked him to take a pay production. I'm gonna
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: look it up.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you're looking at my my overall thought on
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: their offenses, this is where we're going to see if
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the Michaelafloor experiment starts to work, because they have to
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: me a bad offensive line. They have good left tackle
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: in Paris Johnson, good left guard obviously, Sam Oli is okay.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I know, Greg said just yeah, that's sure. Tape is
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: just okay, Yeah, it's just okay.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And then but from center to right guard to right tackle,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I've never even heard of their center, to be honest.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he's uh yeah. The only reason why is
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't hear of him either when he was with
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Cleveland and I was like, oh, is this guy that
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: sounds like an Harry Potter. How do you say HAJOLTI Froholt. Yeah, okay, yeah,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I know he's been this is He's actually not bad.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: He's not bad. He's uh is a journeyman that kinda
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: did a nice job for the Browns. And then yeah,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: he's their center. But you're right, they don't have a
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: stud of their offensive line. That boy, they've through time
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and Austin for it. Now. They did draft a basantis
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: their second rounder. Hull start for sure. Yeah, we talked
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: about the pre draft process, but they do not say
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: mall who you mentioned. Overall, they don't have a very
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: good offensive line.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: But that's where you just that's where michae Lafleur coming
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: from the from the forty nine ers and working with
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan right has to Can he adapt that system?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Can he overcome a blow average offensive? I mean he
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: doesn't even have a Trent Williams though, Like.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: He's got no one, no one.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: He's gonna really have to get creative with his schemes,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: with his outside zone, with his marriage of run and pass.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna have to be able to Yet, Jerema,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: how are they going to run against the Eagles? That's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: what I keep thinking. How is this offensive line going
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to be able to run against the Eagles? Even if
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: they do try to stretch the perimeter, everybody's going to
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: see it coming. It's just going to be and again
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and things can change between now and obviously week thirteen,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Week fourteen. But I just don't know if personnel wise,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: on offense, this team has enough right now. But at
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: least they've got some pieces, right. You've got Love, You've
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: got Marvin Harrison, You've got this kid Wilson who had
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a good year last year. You got McBride who's one
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: of the best tight ends. They really just need a
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: few linemen in a quarterback. And I know that's like
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: obviously a lot. Yeah that's a lot, but they'll they'll
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: be it in the next draft.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Well, they also need Marvin Howards to become the player
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: that I mean. I have some friends who are in
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: scouting they're just shocked. Yeah, they thought he was generational, right,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: potentially better. His father's All of Famer, And it's it's
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: just one of these things you can't explain, like why
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: is he route running, Like if you look at his
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: whole package, we're out running, run after the catch, hands,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: mental character, all all off the hook, off the charts.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: But something's happened with his confidence. He just has not
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: been that player hard right.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: This feels like a vic Fangio. I am absolutely not.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be one of my lowest blitz percentages.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't blitz at all.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like why do I blitz? I mean, even the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: like you just said, their best player, Harrison doesn't necessarily
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: beat guys one on one down the field thirty yards,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean he's so far sort of more
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: been like a possession guy than anything. So yeah, Vick's
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: just gonna let his front foward do the work.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, you have to be aware of McBride
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: because this guy catches everything. He's a big volume target player.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: You have to be aware of Love. No doubt the
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: guy's phenomenal back. The offense will go through him. I'm
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: expecting a ton of eleven personnel here with Micha Laflor,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: who I'm interested to see because he's got he's got
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: influence from McVeigh, He's got influence from Shanahan. That true,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: So how much will he run? But you've got McBride.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Tip Ryman's is their why tight end HM for those
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: of you fall the college football. He was a why
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: out of Illinois. And then you've got the ability with
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Kendrick Bourne being there if he could still play. He's
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: had some injuries in his career to when they go eleven,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: it's Harrison Wilson the outside born on the inside, so
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: they could do some things that they could protect. On
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: your point, A can they protect? Then with the Eagles front,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: it's just more athletic and better the defensive front. So yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, dump Blitz. I could see Grenard having
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: a field day if paras Johnson's averages. We've heard that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Hunt and Ebihetti and Nolan Smith, I just see them
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: dominating this game.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: By the way, has it come? Is Nathaniel Hackett gonna
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: be the play caller?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I know he's the great question? Yeah? Yeah, I would.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I would think he'd have a chance because I had
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: heard he was in demand. Believe it or not. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: know people make fun of them, I know, I know.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Ain't Hackett? Yeah, son of Fall Hackett. You might remember him.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: All right. So on defense, Cardinals got a long way
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to go as well. They do have some good young talent.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what if people didn't realize Walter
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Nolan when he got healthy last year and finally got
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: on the field, he looked pretty good. That gotta looked
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: like everything we said about him go leading into the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: draft that year. You remember how he was the top
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: three technique and he was just explosive on the inside
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and like him yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he he
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: had some games last year when he first got in
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and started to look like that guy.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And Darish Robinson he's had a number of injuries. Yep.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: He's another guy that's got length. He's he's got to
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: play up to first round Billing. Uh, journeyman Roy Lopez
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: probably their nickel they brought in. Andrew Billings is another
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: journeyman defensive tackle. Their past rush joshuatt Is. I don't know.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: This is crazy with Joshua Yeah, like he whether he
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: wants to be traded or not. I mean they can't
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: afford to trade. And there's b j Lari was a
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: second rounder in twenty three. Has been hurt a lot.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Maaron Browning is explosive, but he's been hurt a lot.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Remember with Denver, he's he's he's there, and Zavin Collins
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: is sort of a Tweeneriley's not good enough. Vegles offensive
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: line should have no problems with this this front. Uh.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: The cornerback group is interesting. With Will Johnson talented, you
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: might remember him second rounder last year. Denzel Burke, who's
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: a physical corner out of Ohio State. Garrett Wams and
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: uh Sean Murphy Bunning. Murphy Bunning's more of a nickel.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: M hm. They've got enough a corner. Buddha Baker of course.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Andrew wind Guard. You might remember him with the long
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: hair from the Jaguars if you really follow the NFL.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: He's funny looking dude. They're they're inside backers, okay. Mac
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Wilson you might remember him from the Patriots and Browns,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: and Cody Simon and Jack Gibbons, who's an underrated inside backer.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: They're they're okay, yeah, and Nick Rowlis is back that
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: they kept him as a defensive coordinator. Thirty four front
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: smart move.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I think. I mean, if you if you like a guy,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and you know, you don't have to just start over
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: with you guys just because you're a new guy.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: So that was yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, James
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Connor did take a picut, So he did. Yeah, we'll
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: see what his role is there. This to me, the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: game should be close. Now. I'll say one thing about
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissette is a super aggressive thrower. Yes, was it
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: last year? Didn't have the game of well over four
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: hundred yards against the Rams? Yeah?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Last year?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Crazy game. Yeah, just ridiculous game and they still lost. Yeah.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Well it's usually the case when you have to throw.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: If you have to throw for four hundred yards, you're
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: probably losing.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that game that I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: find out what week it is, because the numbers are
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: just Boy, if you had him in fantasy, it's like,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you would like you couldn't predict it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that game, I think it was weak. No,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: what was it last year? I thought it was lest
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I kind of scorned it. Well, it might have been,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: but it was at against the Rams. Who is it against?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Do you remember? Oh? Man?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: That I don't. I just know that my fantasy football
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: opponent had him in the first round. I oh, he
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: was throwing all these having these games, and then he
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: had a dud game in the for in week like fifteen.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: So you know.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: What I think it was against the Niners. Yes, insane,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: this is crazy. Forty seven for fifty seven, Yeah, four
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: fifty two but only two touchdowns. That's why they lost.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they got killed by the way they
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: lost by almost twenty three, yeah, forty one, twenty two.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got absolutely destroyed. But Michael Wilson just ridiculous.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Eighteen targets at fifteen catches won for one eighty five. Yeah.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: He he was a guy had a lot of promise
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: coming out of Stanford. It never really showed it, and
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: then he got pressed into service. They had a great
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: season over thirteen.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So one thing about the and and maybe
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: maybe this is where I'm underestimating them a little bit.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I'll go to check it real quick.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals lost a ton of games last
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: year by like five points or less. If I'm not
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: mistaken something crazy like that, I have to go. Look,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: they were in a ton of games, so that.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: That's been the problem for years. They should They choke
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of game, not a lot, but they choked
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: them and they they're the problem is, folks, they've just
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: never been talented enough. And but they've been in quarterback
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: purgatory for years, right, Cayler Murray regressed when you don't,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: this is what has been the problem. I know they
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: made the playoffs under Steve Kine, but when you don't
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: address your lions effectively, you cannot win. It's like never fails.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: If you're not strong the lines, you cannot win, right,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and they're not play real.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Quick before we get to that, we're gonna go to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the Colts next. But these were the This is the
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: first ten games of the Cardinal season last year. Okay,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: they lost a season opener by seven to the Saints.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: They lost a week two to the Panthers by five.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: They lost to the Niners by one, They lost to
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks by three, they lost the Titans by one,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: they lost to the Colts by four. They lost the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Packers by four. All right, so we're seven weeks into
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the season and every single game was by four or
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: less points. So they were in a lot of and
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: then after that, you know, the roof kind of caved in.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: This is crazy. They were two and oh and then
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: then they would go one and third. That's I'm sorry.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: They won the first game you're at and then they
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: lost those games.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they won to They were two and oh
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and would wind up winning one game and the rest
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: of the season after Week three. That's embarrassing that that's
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: just that they were never competitive on the Jonathan Gannon. Overall,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: of course, they beat the Eagles if you remember right,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: it's an embarrassing game in Philly, but overall not very good.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So Indianapolis Colts would be the next game.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: We'll finish it out for part three here. This will
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: be in Philadelphia one o'clock kickoff. I love this game because,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: you know, and I was in some ways I wish
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: they had played last year because they were so similar
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: like the last year's Colts. The way it started for
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: them when they were like eight and one, they reminded
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: me so much of the Eagles from the year before.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were getting this just overwhelming running game
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: with Jonathan Taylor. They're getting a quarterback who was just
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: playing really efficiently. Pop a deep ball every once in
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: a while, Daniel Jones. But it was really just hitting
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, hitting downs, hitting his peers. He was just
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: moving the ball, converting third down, and the defense was
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: playing well, and then the proverbial bleep hit the fan
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: for them with all the injuries.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Well, and this is what happens when you don't have
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: a good backup quarterback. Richardson wasn't ready that he fell
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: out of favor, and you know, they tried to trade
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: him this year. Nobody wanted him, and he's the number
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: two quarterback now. They're expected Daniel Jones to be ready
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: for the start of the regular season, but who knows
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: what he'll kind of work he'll get in August or
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: in training camp. Right, because he was a dual threat
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: quarterback that straight line speed, good arm, wasn't turning it over.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: They were getting played Alec nine round Pierce. This is
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: what I call Alec Pierce because he is nothing else
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: in none. Rowdy's phenomenal, great at it. He's a great
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: deep threat catching the football and got paid like it,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: got an unbelievable contract, unbelievable contract for guys not really
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: well rounded. Right, and they traded Michael Pittman and remember
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: they traded uh A d Mitchell. They trade for Sauce Gardner,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: so they're not like Josh Jowonnes is a fine slot receiver.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Caleb's brother, but he's not the biggest guy in the world.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: A lot of injury. Yep, They're they're gonna be heavy,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: super heavy, twelve personal Tyler Warren, Moley Cox Malory. Yeah,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: they're already telling you what they are. They don't even
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: have three action duelings like a four. Right, your guy
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: like Quon Treadwell still round. They're if they're a heavy
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: twelve personnel team, that that's fine. Eagles can handle that.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Offense is gonna go through Jonathan Taylor, Tyler Warren, and
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Alec Pierce. That's it. I mean, this to me is
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: not a hard team to figure out.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: No, you're right, They're very simple with what they're gonna do.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: This will be a big year also for for the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: coach obviously, uh stiking and then some people surprising and
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the GM. Yeah, they really have to play. They're not
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: deep adam, as you're mentioning. Offensively, they have to stay healthy.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: They have talent, they have a good old line h Yeah,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: but they are really thinnert receiver. They got him. They
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: got to make a move there to be honestly. Before
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: before the.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Start, they brought in Nick Westbrook a keen as a four. Yeah,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: He's just a possessive. It's going to go for It's
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: gonna go for JT. Jonathan Taylor, who's been great, no doubt.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: He's been able to overcome all the injuries. Your guy Tyler,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Warren and Pierce. But Peerce does not command the football,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: You're not. He doesn't. He's not a high past target guy. Right.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: They didn't replace Pittman like that? Where's the I don't
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: get it. This is Chris Chris uh Ballader has been
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: very average as a GM, but it shows it. And
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: now you don't have a really good backup if Jones
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: doesn't look good or regresses, because again it's once he's
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: going to be ready. Riley Leonard's just a guy, Like
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: why don't.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: They even have a better number two quarterback?
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: They should, That's what I'm saying. They know they should
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: have brought it soone to compete against Richardson.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, is Riley Leonard the guy would be
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: because they want Richards traded?
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: You know, they try to trade richards is what they
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: try to do, you know, but he wants out of
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: there too. Well. And here's another thing. They don't have
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: a great backup running back. Uh huh that's a problem
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: You've You've talked a lot about on these shows about
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the death because you always want to look at death,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: correct because and this is another problem that they have. Yeah,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: their bye is is I think in week fourteen. If
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, I mean's double check, I'm sorry week thirteen. Okay, Yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: now they're off before they play the Eagles in Philly.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: That's a short flight, very short flight. It's less it's
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: around ninety minutes. But mm hmm, that's man. They're not
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: off into week thirteen, so that that's that's a long
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: it's a long time to play. Yep. They don't stare
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: very They're a very average team to me, okay, and
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: we'll get to the defense of the second. I wouldn't
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: be worried about their offensive.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're I would call them as top heavy because
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you know, as long as Jones comes back, all right,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: and Jonathan Taylor is one of the best, and their
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: offensive line is good, and their receivers downs and peers
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: can move the change, They're they're good. But like they
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: literally have no margin for error. I would say that that, yeah,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: they're offensive game, yeah, yeah, real quick.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Their offensive line, but are right It's okay. He's come
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a long way, right, got off the Rocky Star with him,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: but he would wind up being their left tackle. Bordoline's
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: back is their center. Ryan Kelly's long gone. And then obviously, yeah,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: he said, Calvis is okay, They've got an okay, and
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I guess it's gonna be I assume it's gonna be
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Jailen Travis, but I don't know that for sure yet,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: So we'll we'll see what the right tackle. This is
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: another offensive line Eagles will have, the Eagles will have,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: they'll eat in this game. They'll be okay.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: And again, yeah, I mean this, Jonathan Taylor. Can Jonathan
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Taylor be great?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Can run against them? And again you're gonna see a
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: lot of twelve personnel with Warren and Molei Cox. Yeah,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: that's why he's there so he can block, right, It's wow.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Since twenty seventeen, Cox, Wow, this is your name for him?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Hey man, you're ten for my boy, Laclan Treadwell. Everybody
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: keeps joking that I that long with him, but ten
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: years in this league.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, technically this will be season eleven, though he's
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. If you count both, you have to count
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: that season. Yeah, that's unbelievable.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Very much, so very very much.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: You know, Rick Spielman told us, you remember who drafted him.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I know he treadwell, was either twenty or twenty one
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: when they drafted him. And you know, he never really
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: ran really well. He was a runner for the catch,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: physical guy, he just never got it. But yeah, I
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: give the guy credit. He's still good for him that
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: he's still getting a Paytriock. That's good for him for
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: all that he's been for to continue to play. That's
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: a cool story for sure.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: All Right, on defense, defense are pretty good. But again
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I just I question the depth that they have. But
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: they're pretty good. They've got some good pass rushers up front.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: You know, I've always been a big fan of arden Key,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: so when I see him on a team, I always.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: All he's been on.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, he's always wanted and he always winds up
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: playing a pretty big role for whoever he's with.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, defarest Buckner and his neck injury is the one
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: that's a concern.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: See when he see if I can find out what
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: he's going to be bad.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Same thing with Latsu, who's been healthy, but he also
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: came out of college with with some neck concerns.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the stenosis issue, yeah concern yeah. Yeah. So Buckner
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: is supposed that he's hoping you're ready for training camp,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: started training camp. So he's coming back from major neck injury.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: That's a concern. Uh, they've we look at the front, Oh,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: big row, Grover Stewart's really good run stopper. He's another
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: older player. Yeah, he's another guy ten years in. And
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: then you mentioned a Lattu, the edge rusher, no doubt,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: arden Key who was sort of a stand up pass rush,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: cold play, a variety of schemes, and under lu Ana
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Romo they run a forty three front. They don't have
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: enough pass rushers. Michael is a power in Yeah. Yeah,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: they don't have enough pass rushers to make.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I mean Latu is a very good rusher. Buckner can
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: give you some rush. Key everybody again, twitchy guy.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well the problem is again Bucker's coming up a
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: major injury. We don't know if he'll be the same. Right,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: there's a reason why this guy keeps moving on. This
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: is crazy how much this is really if you look
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: at it, right, this is your this is his fifth
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: team YEP in six years. Why does he keep moving on.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: That's a great question. I do not know.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: This is something that teams clearly are not They're not
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: happy with lots. Who's their guy, right, Michael clements in
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: power rusher, not a great power rusher, not a great
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: passers Okay, Yeah, but they have size up front with
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Buckner and Stewart, no doubt. Stuart's a really a very
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: unerrated run run defender. Yep, they're not graded. Inside backer CJ.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Allen will start right away their second round. King David
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Gaylor was who's was cut by the Cardinals, by the way, Hm, hm,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: that's concerning sure. And then yeah, and then you got
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: now South Gardner. You know he had that he had
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: the calf problems. After the trade, he's he's back now
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: full time in the off season. Tavarious words back in.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Society's going to keep playing. Mkay bt, mkay. Blackman's there,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Kim Taylor Brett another ex Bengal. That's kind of weird
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: with King Davis Gaither. And remember they they they cut
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: their their their their nickel defender. Yeah, so it's it's
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: a team that's going to Kenny Morris Scott. So what
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: you see is a defense it's got some talent, but
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: they have rush. No, he go's clearly a favorite. I'd
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: have him as a seven point favorite in this game.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm curious to see how the Colt
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: season goes because eight when they were eight no or
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: eight and one, I mean, they were just so reliant
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: on incredible on their run game, which was great and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: they will be again, and and Daniel Jones was sort
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: of playing above what we've ever seen Daniel Jones play.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: And it almost is like those two guys were kind
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: of carrying a weak roster by themselves, and then when
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the injury settled in and the fatigue and then it
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: just totally changed. I'd be shocked if they were eight
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: and no again, or if they were I mean, they
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: have enough talent to be contenders, but they their margin
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: of error with injury or a couple of bad games
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: from a QB or the running back just doesn't have
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the lanes and then they're in trouble. That's what it
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: would see say.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say the issue is you've got the
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: forest bucket to come off of major surgery, okay, And
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Daniel Jones come off major surgery Achilles, he may never
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: be the same okay, and you don't have a good
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: backup quarterback. Guy's not really he's done very little. They had,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: they had a bench. That's why Daniel Jones is there.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: They didn't trust him to mature. You know, here's the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: one that the story. If you don't folks look it
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: up when he could when he asked out of the game.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: There's been a lot of reporting on it locally and nationally,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: and you can't do that. He just did. He was
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: too young to understand that. You can't do it even
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: if you're hurt, if you're out of break, whatever the
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: case may be, you could you could wait till the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: defenses on the field to get yourself together. And and
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: he just never could recover from that. Yeah, and it
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: is what it is. But they have to they're to me,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: they're five hundred team to fight with all the questions
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: that they're.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: No better than right, they need like to go their
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: way to be better than that, I would think.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could rely on JT all you want,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: and that's great. He was awesome. He's he's phenomenal and
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: he's really going the past game yep. But they just
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: don't have enough receiver and the fact that they I
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: know Pittman's a good player, but they did nothing to
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: replace him. To pay Peers his contract is hideous. I
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: mean again, give the agent credit and good for Peers. Yeah,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I mean twenty five per year. Are you out of
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: your mind? Twenty millions?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: What they got Christian Kirk.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, yeah, it's got to your structure.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: But it's got an advanced guarantee. If he's on the roster,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: which he will be in March of twenty seven, He's
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: got fourteen million of twenty seven million cash guaranteed. It
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: comes fully guaranteed in your threat. That's enough that no
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: matter how ways play, you're not going to cut him.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: That's just who like I understand like there were other
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: teams involved, and Ballard like wants to keep the guys
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: you got, right, but you gotta understand what a guy is.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: And what he's not. I'm with you. I just I
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: never even love by the way, I never even loved
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: the I'm on record for this people who go back
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and listen to my weekly NFL. I hated the sauce
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: gardner for them. I thought it was a terrible way
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: too much.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: It was seeing it's giving way too much for a
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: quarter That for quarterback, not a quarterback, right right. Ballard's
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: desperate man now now backfiring.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I with no first round pick this year and none
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: next year. I mean, their roster is just not that
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: good to me. That could be wrong, but.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Look, I understand the Josh mcgannal situation, which was bizarre
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: to be Uh, he's been very average as at GM.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: He's just okay. Yeah, and we'll see how Jim Mercedes's children, uh,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Carly and her family handles Ballard and Shane Stek. Obviously,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: this is as you said earlier, you're right, this year
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: is this is it for those guys with Stecken and Ballard.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: They got to get they got it. They they don't
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: make the playoffs, and how the hell could you bring
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: them back?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're on the clock. All right, good stuff. That's
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: part three. In our next episode, we'll wrap up the
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: last three opponents that we haven't done yet, and that'll
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: be our full schedule analysis series, and that'll lead us
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: right up into Eagles OTAs which start this week. That's
• 46:19
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