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08/24/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Tim Brady, Fred Persinger, Danny Jones · The Dave Allen Show

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gonna talk to you Fred a little bit about that game. It really gets
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us a little preview of what to expect from high school football. Former Mayor
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Danny Jones is going to stop by the studio as well. The GOP debate
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was last night, and I want to get to Danny's take on that,
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but I won't talk a little Regatta right now. Tim Brady with the Charleston
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CVB, the Convention and Visitors Bureau, joins us. Now, Tim,
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good morning, how are you. Good morning, Dave. Great to be
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here. I have to. I had to ask you this something I want
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to ask you every time that you've been on the show. You know you
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did your time in radio, but you escaped. Do you do you ever
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missdoing radio? I know it says nothing to do with what we're gonna talk
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about, because I'm gonna tell you I'm not second up to the gast Year,
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but you are probably one of the best natural voices for radio that I've
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ever heard. I wish I had that I don't, But do you ever
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you ever miss your radio days, you know, I will tell you that
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there are times when I do. And and one of those times was about
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two minutes ago when you started talking about bringing Fred in in the second block
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to preview high school football. Uh, you know, pre CBB days.
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I hosted a show very similar to this in the Clarksburg market and Fred was
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always coming up through Clarksburg Bridgeport on Friday mornings to do Metro News Game Night
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on Fridays in Morgantown, and he would stop in Clarksburg and we would do
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half an hour on Friday mornings previewing that week's high school football uh schedule,
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and uh, you know that's the stuff that I miss. I miss hanging
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out in a studio with Fred Pursinger, I miss, you know. Uh
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you know. One of my best friends is Travis Jones, who does Bridgeport
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High School MC sports up in the Clarksburg market. He and I did Bridgeport
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football for about fifteen years. To get other on Friday nights in the fall,
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I start to get a little bit of an itch and and it's it's
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odd to not be in a press box somewhere talking about popcorn. That's that's
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the stuff I miss. You know what I don't miss is getting up at
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fourth thirty to have drive time news. Ready for get that that, I
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don't miss that. Hey, before we talk with God, it just real
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quick. I do think it would be appropriate if we just mentioned this morning,
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UH, rest in peace to WWE Hall of Fame or Terry Funk,
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legend, hardcore legend, King of the Death Match, a career that spanned
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continents and decades and passed away yesterday. So I wanted to say rest in
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peace to Terry Funk this morning, absolutely because I know you're a wrestling I'm
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an old old school wrestling. I quit. I quit watching about the early
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nineties. Well there's nothing more old school. You're right about that. Let's
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talk with God and numbers. They were revealed during a press conference City Center.
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It's like plods the last week. In case anyone may have missed them,
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let's kind of take it from the top worker way down. Overall the
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numbers for regats so UH an estimate of two hundred and twenty thousand attendees over
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the course of the five days. Twenty percent of those were visitors from beyond
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a fifty mile radius. And we define a visitor as someone who comes from
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fifty miles away or beyond and spends at least two hours in the city.
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UH. And of those folks, sixty five percent of our visitors UH stayed
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overnight. UH. Twenty percent of those visitors were from out of state.
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A total economic impact of thirty seven point two million dollars at an event that
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supported seven thousand, nine hundred and forty eight jobs in the metro valley.
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So all right, I mean, it's a it's a it's a big deal
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over the course of five days, and tim you know, you're in the
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economic projection business. At some point, you know, UH, at some
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at least a portion of your day sitting back saying, Okay, this is
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what we did. This is what we expect to do in the future.
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But you know, when the idea was first discussed about bringing the regatta back,
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did you have any idea that would be this being I had no frame
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of reference because I didn't live in Charleston during the first and I never experienced
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it. I never attended a regatta. Of course, I'd heard stories over
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the years about the massive crowds and and UH and the event itself, but
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I had no frame of reference. Personally. So I went into that first
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year just not knowing what to expect. I think we have uh are you
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okay, you're taking a phone call? Sure? Okay, all right,
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I think we have a phone call for you. You're a popular guy.
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You got to you got if you got Chris there? What force Chris you're
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on with Tim Brady? Go ahead? Morning sale was Yeah, it's the
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big bad jackal Okay, I wanted to make a statement about uh former police
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chief. Okay, okay, can can we wait? We're not we're talking
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about regatta right now. What I want to talk about Regatta too. Okay,
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let's just keep it on regatta right now. Then maybe because I think
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Danny Jones is gonna talk about that a little bit later on, maybe you
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can call back when Danny's on. How's that? Oh? Two calls in
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one day? To keep this one to Tim on regatta and the regatta numbers,
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and then he can call back dartor Danny later. Go ahead. I
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am super glad that Mayor Goodwin brought the Regatta back to Charleston. Regatta used
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to be the best party in America, and it feels like we got it
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back these past couple of years and it makes Charleston feel whole again. And
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you know that's I'm going to jump in and say, part of our culture
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is Regatta. Yeah, that's one of the things that I dave when we
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talk about Regatta and we talk about economic impact, and it's certainly enormous.
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The other thing that I like to talk about when we're talking about Regatta in
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the media is is the social impact, the community impact of Regatta, because
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just like this guy was saying, it gives people a sense of community,
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a sense of place, a sense of pride and where they live. And
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one of the things that we look at at the Convention and Visitors Bureau,
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we study why people come to Charleston, and the number one reason that people
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visit Charleston, West Virginia is to visit friends and family. So what's more
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impactful than creating an event that not only drives all of this economic impact,
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but also generates this real sense of community pride and makes people remember why they
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love living in the city where they do. Because when people are happy where
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they live, they're more apt to invite their friends and family. So really,
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for us, we look at Regatta as this sort of generating engine that,
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yes, It generates a lot of economic impact, but it generates a
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lot of sense of place, a sense of pride, and then that encourages
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people to invite more friends and family to come, so it drives our tourism
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up overall throughout the course of a year. So that you know that community
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impact to us is significant as well. You've got a really smart guy on
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the radio with you today. Which one are you talking to? You've got
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a really smart guy on the radio with you today. I'm not talking about
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myself for one. I appreciate that. I want to throw out a couple
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of other things Dave too, that we found interesting. You know, we
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study. Please add to what you said, sir, Oh sure, go
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ahead. I didn't realize you were still on the line. Go ahead.
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I love Regatta. I grew up with Regatta. I grew up with Regatta
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and the bad beer fights. I grew up with Regatta and Willie Nelson on
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the stage. Regatta is what makes West Virginia, Charleston, West Virginia especially
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special. We need to keep celebrating Regatta. We need to keep bringing back
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the paddle boats. We need to dig deeper into our roots because it's who
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we are and what we are and that's what makes us feel good. All
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right, I appreciate I appreciate your phone. I think that's great. And
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that's it, right, it's community pride. It's again, it's it's what
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it's all about for us. Yes, it's economics, but it's also you
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know, generating that that sense of place. One of the things I thought
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that was really interesting what you said, and and and what was revealed last
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week when the numbers came out was again the number of people from out of
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the area that came to Charleston. I mean that was that totally blew me
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away that you had the number of people that came from DC. Yeah,
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we look at those origin markets and and the state of West Virginia is always
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our number one tourism market for Charleston. So the Charleston Huntington metro area that
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you know, draw fifty mile radius around Charleston and you know close in that
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was the number one origin market for our visitors. Number two was DC.
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Three was Pittsburgh. And that DC market is super significant to us because we
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know through our own research that DC visitors spend about forty four percent more than
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other visitors. They have more disposable income. So when those folks come,
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they're spending more money. So it was really great to see DC show up
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so high in in city of origin for region. What kind of marketing did
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you do in those years to get those people because they have to find out
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about it, Someway. Yeah, so we we did a lot of digital
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advertising in different markets. You know, we identify what our drive markets are.
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We research twelve months a year. We know on a regular basis where
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our visitors are coming from, so we employ a fish where the fish are
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kind of philosophy. If we know that we're getting people from DC, Pittsburgh,
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Cincinnati, Cleveland, those places, that's where we spend money with digital
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advertising to promote REGATTA. We do a lot of social digital, a lot
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of you know, Google based, place based advertising. You know, we
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did a little bit of print through some Retta or some stern Wheel specific publications.
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But yeah, I mean, we know where our origin markets are that
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we have success, and we go after more of those people. What do
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you hear from the business people in Charleston as far as the folks I'll operate
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the restaurants and things of that nature. You know, you talk to some
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of the restaurant owners and and you know they'll tell you that those are their
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busiest days of the year. And I can remember last year specifically a couple
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of local restaurant owners that that said that during Rigatta, they broke all of
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their sales records. UH, during the event. I've not really been involved
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this year with a lot of the business outreach uh. And we've not had
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a wrap up meeting yet, but when we do, I think we'll probably
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get some more of that anecdotal evidence about you know, how successful it was
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for vendors. I know it's good for the food trucks, it's good for
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the restaurants. But I haven't had a lot of specific conversations this year person
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exactly what goes and this is a text that we got here and to him,
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then we'll let you go. Somebody ask about exactly how do you determine
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the economic impact? I mean, what goes into that? So, first
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of all, it's done by people that are way smarter than me. Yeah
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I can, I can sound smart. I'm not really that smart, but
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in a nutshell, it's it's it's like this, we we get an attendance
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estimate from the from the and we will do. We'll do this for events
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throughout the city, not just forgotten. We get an attendance estimate for the
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free events. For ticket at events, it's easy, you know how many
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people showed up. But for the free events, we'll get an attendance estimate
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and then we put that number along with some other ancillary figures like food and
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beverage sales, merchandise sales, carnival ticket sales, things like that, all
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go into a web based calculator that's provided by Destinations International, which is an
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internationally recognized tourism research firm. I just plugged the numbers into their calculator and
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it spits the numbers back out at me. And as far as the estimates
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on visitors and the percentage of attendees that were visitors, we work with another
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national company that does third party cell phone and credit card data research, and
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so they draw some lines around your area and they study the people that are
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using their devices in that area at the time, so they can come up
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with some estimates on where those visitors are coming from and how many of the
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total attendees were from outside of a fifty mile radis. So we just basically
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take all of that put it into a web based program through a recognized tourism
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research firm and it gives you the number. So where does it go from
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here? If, in your opinion, where gottam there's nowhere to go but
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up right? I mean I think that I think that the first couple of
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years, just as someone who's watched it and I've not been involved on the
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logistics side, but I think you look, you step back, and you
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look, and you say, the first couple of years are always let's figure
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out what we're doing. And I think we're in a place now where we
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can really make this thing even better because we're working the kinks out and we're
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working the bugs out as we go, both from a marketing standpoint where all
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of this research is valuable to us. We'll spend more money in DC in
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Pittsburgh next year and bring more of those folks in. And on the logistics
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side, I know the folks that are working on that side, they're already
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making notes about ways to make next year better. So we take what we
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do on marketing side and what the logistics folks do that run the event.
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We put that all together, and I think this guy's the limit. Dave
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All right, Well, well, we'll be watching because this is a busy
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time. I mean, you think, okay, Regatta's over show. Now,
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that's not the way it works. And I feel that specifically because we've
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got a big event coming up in a couple of weeks and I'd love to
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come back Dave and talk to you about it in more detail. But September
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fifth through tenth, we're hosting the USA Men's Olympic Volleyball. The men's national
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volleyball team will be in Charleston playing seven other countries in a men's international volleyball
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tournament. It's the last time the men's national team will play in the United
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States before the Paris Olympics in twenty twenty four. It's called the Norsica Men's
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Championships and it's going to be incredibly high level men's volleyball and they'll be in
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Charleston for five days the first week of September. Yeah. So yeah,
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no, no, Batt, Yeah, I mean, well, yeah,
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I didn't think about because Regatta is not all and I build the little bit
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about cvbs. I'm involved with one of Puttnham County and I can tell you
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you it's it's I'm working on this event while I'm also looking at this event.
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I'm looking at this event. So no time to rest on your luny
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of events between now and recta, because that's just that's just another I mean,
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it's it's a big event, but for your purpose in your office,
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it's just another event. I made one more things, one more thing you
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got to do, Tam. It's always pleasure. I've on the show man.
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We'll talk soon. Thanks, brother, appreciate. Jim Brady from the
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love that Regatta is back. The only thing I would like to see happen
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would be to put it back on the original Labor Day like it was for
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decades. Doing that, to bring back the grand feature parade with our school
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bands, go back to starting school after Labor Day. Well, Regatta,
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folks can't do anything about school starting, and that's the whole reason why it
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was moved was because school and high school football and everything you know, it
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starts much earlier than what it used to. Tex says, David baffles me
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how these city officials taut the successes other parties but disgustingly duck dodge and dive
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Indeed, indeed, it is high school football season is here at officially Fred
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started last night. Speaking of starting early, started last night. We'll continue
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for most team tonight. Certainly tomorrow night we'll have coverage of the war and
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thirty four from Winfield and a hurricane tonight. Uh, it's that time again,
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man, it is. Love it, love it, love it.
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We've got a total of fifty seven games this weekend. One played last night.
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We'll have a total of five tonight, fifty on Friday night, and
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one on Saturday, Saturday afternoon and night. Yeah. Some of the games
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I understand because of the heats were being pushed ahead to like eight o'clock or
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something. Yeah, and they say that extra thirty minutes or an hour if
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you're kick at seven, does kick at eight really makes a difference? And
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you know, the sun probably gets below the horizon, so it doesn't make
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a difference. But I talked with Billy Seals last night, head coach for
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Huntington, on our high School sports Line debut show for the season and presented
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by Parmar Stores by the way, and if there, I think he is
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an awful lot. Like all the coaches in the state, they know what
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they need to do to keep their kids hydrated, and they practice later in
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the evening then they really want to. He's practicing this week six thirty to
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eight thirty only because it's much cooler than right, you know, which means
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he gets to school. He told me he got to school at about six
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o'clock in the morning and he gets home at ten o'clock at night. But
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the safety of the kids is very important. Absolutely. How many years have
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you been covering high school football in the Mountain State? Frame at a little
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fifty one, fifty two, fifty one or fifty two, Yeah, something
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like that. Wow, nineteen seventy one. Yeah, come to think that's
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a long time, isn't it? Just it just hits you all. Yeah,
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Oh my goodness, it's hard to believe. And we were talking last
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night. Dave quelind as my co host along with Joe Braccalo on Wednesday Night
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show, and then Dave and I do Game Night coming up tomorrow night.
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Twenty second season starts tomorrow night. And throughout those years, those first twenty
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one years, I've missed one show. Dave Jeckelin's missed two. He missed
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he missed one show. Sever he missed one show twenty one years ago when
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his daughter was being born. Okay, I said, go ahead, let's
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a pass, go to the hospital, and then his wife was really sick
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in the hospital. One other time he took the night up. That's it
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hard to believe. You have the same two guys hosting the show for twenty
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one, which we now twenty two years, and let alone the fact I've
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missed one, he's missed two. That's it. That's It's amazing, it
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doesn't happen. So do you I may have asked you this when we did
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the show with Speedy Babbins once before, but do you remember your first high
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school football game that you did? I do? Okay, I do?
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And it was Beckley, Woodrow Wilson and Charleston Catholic. Here are there here
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meaning Charleston Beckley, old van meter Stadium, old van meter steam and now
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they have a new van meter steam as old van meter stadm and uh oh
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yeah remember it? Remember well the one Charleston Catholic six nothing okay, not
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good? Kept Beckley the other playoffs? Oh really I did. That's when
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they were taking four teams, not sixteen. Yeah yeah you remember that?
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Oh yeah, oh yeah, exactly right. So what do we expect from
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the upcoming season? You know? Uh, talked with a lot of coaches
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getting ready for tomorrow night again Billy Seals last night was our guest John Lilly,
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who is the coach of Independence they wanted in double A last year,
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and talk with Chris Beck who is the head coachev Williamstown. All three feel
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really good about this year. In fact, Billy Seals told me at the
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start of last season, he said, you know, I think we'll be
23:42
decent this year, but next year I'm going to be really really good.
23:47
Of course, he won it all last year, lost one game first game
23:48
of the season Spring Valley meatim twenty nine, twenty eight, and then they
23:52
ran off thirteen more. He thought that this year was better than last year.
23:56
I can't wait. He's got to replace the real good quarterback in Gavin
24:00
Locko, but he feels real good about two guys that he's going to probably
24:03
alternate back and forth. One's a runner, one's a passer. He's got
24:07
the backfield back. He's got a lot of good stuff up front. Some
24:10
big kids as always at Huntington High. So I think Huntington will be good
24:14
in Triple A. But with that set, I think there's a lot of
24:17
good teams across the state. The three reigning state champs, they're all going
24:21
to be good, but they're gonna have some competition. I think I think
24:23
he's gonna be a great year for high school football. And we started last
24:26
night. Yeah, first time, check this out. Dodgress County gets beat
24:30
thirty four to fourteen by Saint Mary's. Saint Mary's is now one eleven in
24:34
a row in that series. Okay, first time since August twenty fifth,
24:38
two thousand and seventeen, Dodgers County's got a losing record. Really, Yes,
24:45
there's go and one August twenty fifth, twenty seventeen, they got beat
24:48
by the Hawks of South Harrison, and that's ever since then, they've always
24:52
started out with a win. They've always had a winning season, always always
24:56
had a winning record until last night till I had Saint Mary's like that,
25:00
Really, what about our Canal Valley teams? What do you expect him from?
25:02
Somebody? There's all this hooplaw about Herbert Hoover because of the Zoo Stadium.
25:07
Rightly so and the facilities and everything. But as when I had to
25:10
coach Fields on the show last week, he so we at the end of
25:11
the day, this is all nice, but we still got to play.
25:14
Yeah, you know, so so so so. Talk about Hoover or GW
25:18
or South Charleston, any of these other teams in the in the area.
25:21
What do you think? I think there's a great game tonight on fifty eight
25:25
WCHS in Hurricane and Winfield. Hurricane is going to be very good, yes,
25:30
the very very Donnie Mays has got a great ball club. But Winfield
25:33
is going to be very good in the Double A ranks. So I fully
25:37
expect Hurricane to win because they usually do. But it could be a really,
25:41
really good football game. I think also George Washington is going to be
25:47
good. Definitely. They open up against Cable Midland. That's another game.
25:52
That's a game that's been moved at eight o'clock kick by the way, on
25:55
tomorrow night. But I think those two teams jump out at you as far
26:00
as in the valley area, if you will, around the state again,
26:04
I think we're gonna have some great, great football first game of the season.
26:08
You know, it's you don't put a lot. Who would have thought
26:11
if Honeyton gets beat last night? All right, Honeyton got beat last year
26:15
first game of the season. You probably wouldn't have picked him to go ahead
26:18
and win the state championship, but they did so game one. Who knows.
26:22
You can see some upsets if you will. We'll see how it goes
26:26
on Friday night. High school football is one of those really interesting things,
26:29
uh, one of the probably the most interesting support to me, because you
26:33
start out in the heat of summer, right you know, at the end
26:34
of August, and then when you end up, whether it's it's the final
26:40
game of the regular season or in the playoffs or and Wheelian Island Stadium,
26:42
you end up sometimes in snow. And it's one of the only sports you
26:45
know that the runs a gamut as far as weather goes, it's a it's
26:49
amazing you're outside, and it's it's what's great Friday night lights that means something.
26:55
It really doesn't now a lot of these teams. Beckley comes to mind.
26:57
Last year they had light show installed, much like I don't know if
27:02
you've ever seen it at West Virginia State University where they have the lights.
27:04
Yes, yes, same things going on down high schools. Beckley has it
27:07
now, and I mean it's just fabulous to see the team's coming out under
27:11
that light show or at halftime with the band. It's some good stuff.
27:15
But high school football is what it's supposed to be and that kind of brings
27:18
communities together. You know, uh, what about all these changes with them
27:22
with transfer roles. I certainly had to put a friend of the bad mood.
27:26
No, Yeah, because transfer rule, and I think good kudos to
27:32
the WVSSAC and David Price. They've already had five schools that they have had
27:36
to put some penalties. Slap on the wrist if you will. The nightro
27:41
got more than a slap on the wrist. Yeah, thanks pretty good,
27:44
But I think they said at best, the transfer rule has always been in
27:49
effect. Okay, always. The recruiting rule is not and that's where the
27:53
coaches have been getting into trouble. I don't like it. Ask me about
27:57
four classes in high school. I've done that before. I've done that before.
28:02
I hate it big enough there and people out there don't know what that
28:06
means. The transfer rule, Yeah, and hey kid, now and there's
28:10
day you can transfer one time and go to a different school. Now if
28:15
you transfer and you don't like it, tough, tough, tough you.
28:18
That's it. You got one shock. That's got to be changed. Yeah,
28:21
that has to be changed by the legislature. Your friend, it was
28:25
changed. You had a text here for you, Fred said, do you
28:26
think Saint Alban's will win any games this year? I hope so. I
28:30
don't know you well, and I tell you I did Saint Alba's football with
28:34
the other guys over there, and with all due respect to them. Scott
28:38
Tinsley was the head coach, I followed by Nick Watts, both two quality
28:42
guys. Question it was rough come October or November, when you know it
28:47
was tough. I mean, I wish the best for the Red Dragons.
28:48
I really do know what they can turn around. Texas Dave. Great to
28:52
hear Fred on the program this morning. He is a legend. Thanks Fred.
28:55
Oh look it's signed Fred. How'd you do that? While you were
28:57
to that a lot delay when the new explaining you know Twitter, you couldn't
29:02
do it with acts, you could do it, Fred. We'll be listening,
29:03
okay. So we got you and Jackland to mar and I your twenty
29:07
second year. So we got this always cracks me. We got jacklind we
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got Wilson, and we got Weekly. We need more Daves in this company,
29:15
right, we need one. We need a good day. You have.
29:18
That's all of us together, make up one good day. Fred,
29:22
always a pleasure of my friends. Love you man, Appreciate you being here
29:23
and we'll talk again soon. Thanks. Like Fred. First thing or the
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We're gonna talk to him a little bit before we go to break, getting
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memories of high school football. No, no, hold on once you can
29:55
say on the air, Danny, Okay, okay, I don't want to
29:57
hear what happened in the car. I was working at this I was working.
30:00
I was cooking at the Sterling restaurant. It was my senior year.
30:04
We played Saint Alban's and the guys I cooked with for from Saint Alban's.
30:11
So we got off work six in the morning, and then that afternoon we
30:15
all met down to watch Saint Alban's beat GW fifty seven to nothing. Wow.
30:21
Thanks, thanks, but no thanks you were you big? I mean
30:26
you enjoyed going to the games, not sports. You're boxing. I love
30:30
boxing and I like football. Okay, but no, you don't live it
30:33
like like I was when I was a kid. I was a baseball fan.
30:37
Attic. Yeah, it's just the Baltimore Orioles and Burkes Robinson and oh
30:41
god, yeah he's still alive, isn't he. Fred? Yeah? So
30:48
hold on a second, go ahead, and by the way, Baltimore's in
30:49
first place. Yeah, that's sorry with me. Good our good friend Joe
30:53
Stevens in the city of Nitro. That makes Joe very very happy to know
30:56
that his Orioles are in first place. My dad and I boy cunt in
31:00
Baltimore after they moved in Annapolis, and he was from there. And we're
31:03
not about football now, Yeah, he was from he was from Baltimore.
31:07
Okay, no, Baltimore County. All right, Fred, I appreciate it,
31:11
man, thanks a lot. Danny Jones is well to say what we'll
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do. We'll go ahead and take a break because I got I want to
31:15
talk about the GOP debate last night, but also I want to get Danny's
31:18
take on the situation with former police Shiet now Lieutenant Ty Hunt here in the
31:22
city of Charleston. So Danny, good morning, sir, good morning.
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Right now. Let's start with the GOP debates last night. I'm sure
34:20
you watched. I actually managed to stay awake and watch the whole thing.
34:22
Don't stay awake. I don't late, but I watched it all. I
34:27
didn't do the spin room afterwards one Sean came on, I packed it in.
34:30
Well, that's normally what I do when Sean comes on anyway, So
34:34
but anyway, go ahead, But I you look across the stage and you
34:39
got to say who occupied the stage, the space, and who was a
34:45
negative or positive. I don't like the vec rama swammy. When you've got
34:51
as much time on your hands as I do, you drilled down on stuff
34:54
right. And I saw a lot of interviews with him, and I think
34:59
he's dangerous. I mean he and just what Nikki Hiley said last night,
35:01
he is anti Israel. He wants to give Ukraine to the to putin.
35:07
Not to count me out on this. Yeah, well he lost me when
35:09
he said on day one, I'm going to pardon Trump. That's where you
35:13
lost me. Well, the first thing, if you're there, there's actually
35:15
some case law on that the person is supposed to be contrite and accept responsibility
35:22
from what they've done. But would this will all be tested? So uh,
35:25
he he doesn't impress me even a little bit. He occupied a lot
35:30
of space, maybe a little bit of it positive for me, all of
35:34
his native well, Chris Christy owned him a couple of times. Now let's
35:37
let's move across the stage. Asa Hutchins is a wonderful guy. Yeah,
35:42
he'd be a good attorney general. Yeah, he needs to move on.
35:45
Yea. He he's just not gonna by the space. No, neither is
35:50
the governor of North Dakota. You know, I heard a live interview with
35:53
him this morning on the radio, not not some canned TV thing, and
35:58
it was elongated interview. He's the most substantive candidate on the stage. I've
36:02
read that as well. I mean, he is so good, but he's
36:07
not going to get anywhere. All right, Well, who is in your
36:08
opinion? Was there a winner last time? Let me ask you that.
36:14
Well, and there are a lot of people disagree. I bet a lot
36:16
of people out here disagree. But I can criticize the Santus, but he
36:24
was ready. The problem with him and Dave, you're a radio guy.
36:30
He needs to realize with the electronics, you don't need to get all excited.
36:36
Let the let the electronics through the work for you. Because his he
36:40
he looks like he's talking in between matches on the WWE. You know,
36:45
you know you be there, will be there in the omnia Atlanta, you
36:50
know, I mean, he just he thinks everything has to be it's us
36:53
versus them, and it doesn't. What about pens Pence lasting Pence is a
37:00
a good man. He In other words, if you go across the stage,
37:02
who look who gained even a little traction over the over where they were
37:07
before the debate, he would be one person. So would Nicky Haley.
37:13
But he's not going to be nominated. Points to Nicky Haley for the Margaret
37:16
Thatcher reference last night when what she said there and I don't remember exactly what
37:20
it was. Basically it was something to the effect, if you want something
37:22
said, you call. If you want something said, you call a man.
37:25
If you want something done, you call a woman. That got a
37:28
big pop out of the crows. You know, I like her. She.
37:31
I don't think she's gonna win. No, I don't think so either,
37:34
But she maybe she'd be secretary of State or something. She's she's honed
37:38
her foreign policy chops a little bit in the United Nations, And who knows?
37:44
I mean, is there anybody there's? Is there anybody on? I
37:45
mean Trump is up in some polls by forty percent? Is there any Tim
37:50
Scott? Well, you haven't mentioned Tim Scott any thoughts in Tim Scott?
37:52
He didn't hun he did? I don't know anybody that doesn't like him.
37:57
He's Yeah. The New York Times called him, calls him the happy Warrior.
38:00
It's a very liberal news yes it is, and I like him.
38:04
But if I could whisper news ere, let's say, Tim, well,
38:07
don't just support the lady who puts you in the Senate. You know,
38:10
your governor. So de Santus was the winner, in your opinion, in
38:15
my opinion, in my opinion, in other words, he was better.
38:19
Of course, the expectations were him were low because he's been getting beat up,
38:22
basically dormant, you know, for the last several months. Yeah,
38:25
but he and the Trump goes and he at the same time, he's doing
38:29
an interview with Tucker Carlson there and it was funny. I saw, I
38:32
saw a little no, no, I saw a little bit of it,
38:36
just Morton and he's he you know, Trump can be funny. He can't,
38:39
he can't. But you know, today he's going to be arraigned in
38:44
another courtroom and he's going to be fingerprinted and wade and the whole thing.
38:47
And there's a there's actually, you know, there's actually betting in Vegas on
38:51
what he's going to weigh in literally there's props on that right now. I
38:54
mean they're they're little are So what's gonna happen? I want to get to
38:57
tight coup, But what's gonna happen in that situation with with Trump? I
39:00
mean, overall, we can bring it, we can revisit, have you
39:02
on some other time. What's going to happen? I think he's going to
39:06
be if they can get him in the dock, he's going to be convicted
39:08
in in some courtroom somewhere. Now. Interestingly, David his down in Port
39:17
Lucy, Florida, where the documents case that to me seems like the easiest
39:22
case. It's concise, but that's the place where he could get a MAGA
39:27
person on the journey. I mean, because it's a very Republican area.
39:30
It only takes one juror, and this is the highest profile case since O.
39:35
J. Simpson, and it'll be more so with the stakes You're gonna
39:38
be so high and these MAGA folks are going to be trying to get on
39:42
that jury. The case I think that's the most important case for me is
39:45
January sixth case, and it should not be in DC. Maybe Northern Virginia.
39:52
Of course, I'd love for and bring here to trol Well, I
39:54
mean, I thought it was laughable when they said we're gonna bring it to
39:59
West Virginia. I mean, I'm like you, economic impact, I'm all
40:01
about that. Let's bring it to West Virginia. It's not far from it.
40:06
But I mean, is it Is it really going to be fair and
40:07
impartial if it's in West Virginia, in the Panhandle and maybe the Eastern Pane
40:15
the other Pandel the Eastern Panhandle. Maybe all right, let me get this
40:19
texting before we move on. Tech says uh. The vivic wants us Ramaswamby
40:23
wants us to raise the voting age of twenty five. He also wants mandatory
40:27
military service. While he himself didn't serve in the military. He's thirty six
40:30
years old, so he could have gone to a rack re Afghanistan, but
40:34
chose to be a finance and tech bro instead. The guy's a snake,
40:37
he absolutely is. And he you know, that's one of my big objections
40:43
to Donald Trump. He graduated from a military school. Don't give me this
40:49
bone spurs crape, and he should have gone into the military like everybody else
40:52
did of his generation. Not only did he dodge the military he did.
40:59
He did feigned and demeaned the people that did goat on the red carpet,
41:04
step across the line and serve their country. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
41:07
And that's what I simply don't understand that West Virginia being the kind of
41:12
military state we are. More people per capita have died in West Virginia than
41:15
in any other state. How we can support Donald Trump? And I voted
41:20
for the guy twice, Okay, how we can support Donald Trump based on
41:23
that alone? I just I don't know what. I don't know what.
41:27
It's an act of faith. Yeah, you put the person first. He's
41:30
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Ti Hunt? There, he betrayed his office, He betrayed the other officers,
42:04
He betrayed the citizens of Charlestown. He betrayed the city council that stood
42:09
with him, most of them. And he betrayed Mayor, a good one
42:13
who stood with him through this whole thing. And he should resign now.
42:17
He is of no use as a police officer if, in fact, he
42:23
did manipulate a lie box, I mean, if he did manipulate a polygraph
42:28
machine to have sex on the floor after her in the couch or wherever it
42:34
was, after the machine was done, to get this young lady who I
42:38
swore in by the way, and to get her on the department. He's
42:44
not fit to be a police officer. What what kind of witness would he
42:46
make? Can you imagine the cross examination? Excuse me, mister Hunt.
42:51
Didn't you didn't you used to be a police and and you you was a
42:57
polygraph operator? Tell me about this young lady? Did you? Did you?
43:00
I mean, can you imagine what that would be like? He's betrayed
43:04
everybody and he should go. And you know what David I took up for
43:07
him. I took up for him. I'm not sure if I did it
43:12
on this show, but I know I did on a Hoppy show. And
43:14
I was on the road. I'd been out to California and I was driving
43:17
and I called him, and I don't like to mess around and Mayor Goodman's
43:22
business. She's the mayor, not me. But I called him because I
43:25
had the opportunity to take up take up for him. And I said,
43:29
Tyke, are there any more women? And he said to me, he
43:35
said, no, sir, Mayor, absolutely not. And I took him
43:39
in his word and he lied to me. Now, he could have the
43:44
easiest thing to do, would have just said that, you know, a
43:46
mayor, I'm a representive. I'm told not to talk about this now with
43:51
all this going on and everything, And I said, okay, And I
43:53
wouldn't have gone on Hoppy to take up for him. He you know,
43:57
it would have. But he's he's not fit to be a police officer,
44:01
if that's true. And that young lady, I reached out to her,
44:07
you know, center a message on Facebook and told her how sorry I was
44:12
that everything happened to her. But Kenny Bass gave her fifteen minutes on the
44:17
on the TV. I mean, it's like a talk show. It was.
44:22
To me, it was riveting and I thought she was credible, and
44:25
I don't know what anybody else thought, but he's not fit to be a
44:28
police officer. Tech says, wasn't Danny Jones one of the guys pushing the
44:31
tie hutt as an exemplary officer narrative? Should be interesting to see what he
44:36
says. This came in before you came in. I said that. I
44:38
did say that, and when I was there, he was, or at
44:42
least what I knew of him, he was and to the council members,
44:45
and that's why I said he was. He was an exemplary officer. He
44:50
gave the appearance of such, and the council stood up for him, and
44:54
the mayor stood up for him. And that's the ultimate betrayal who appointed him
45:00
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Danny Jones is here, tech says Dave. Isn't it interesting that we didn't
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hear about Chief Hunts scandal and suspension when had happened around April twenty twenty two
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and before the mayoral election of November twenty twenty two. It's I could argue
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either side, it's personnel and if that's well, I want to be careful
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here easy now, I would have I would have cut him loose. Then
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I just said, Tyke, we're going to do this quietly. You're going
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back in the ranks and all this doesn't have to come up. And he
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could he could have probably stayed down. I'm not sure that other young lady
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would have come out. The young lady Dots wore in take quick story about
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that. You know, you see all the tats she had on her arms,
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and she stood up there sleeveless and there's all that ink and I hope
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she didn't mind me using her name, Lieutenant All she's a captain now.
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Autumn Davis was sitting out there. She's heard build her size, and she
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had a coat on, and I said, let's go back here to my
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office. And I got Autumn. I said, Autumn, do you mind
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if she were your jacket she's getting sworn And Autumn said fine. And I
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swear that that the jacket she sworn in was was the jacket of a police
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officer, because I thought if her family member was taking pictures, there may
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be somebody that, you know, didn't want to be distracted, the inks
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distracting to me. I'm we're just old, Danny. I'm seventy three years
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old, so that kind of stuff I'm still not used to. I'm fifty
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three, either of my Texas Dave. Absolutely amen to Mayor Danny Jones,
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first honest voice of the police chief issue. Yet it's troubling that Mayor Goodwin
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is taking her reputation of credibility over a corrupt line cop. I don't.
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I don't. Look, he knew what I knew, and I'm sure she
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was told what I was told, and I backed him, So I backed
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her on this one. I was gonna say, what did you see in
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because you hired? Did you hire? Yeah? What did you see for
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him perfect. He's he's not a tall guy, but he's a wrecked I
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was a perfect posture. He's he's very he has good, good mannerisms,
49:29
very professionals, his demeanor. And there was a public figure that came in
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my office at former public figure came in my office one morning at ten thirty
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and he was drunk, and he was a former mayor from a long time
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ago, and he demanded I fixed a ticket. And he was drunk ten
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thirty in the morning, and I knew he was going to go out and
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get in his car in the garage. I said, Tyke, I want
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you to go out there and arrest him as soon as he backs out,
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arresting for DUI. And he did. And that guy, Yeah, I'm
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serious. I'm a little serious, more serious about drunk driving. Maybe I
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should be. People get killed doing that. So so, so what you're
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saying that you think that Ti Hunt should resign completely from the police. Yeah,
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he's no good as a witness statement. Yeah. And he's no good
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a lieutenant. Are you kidding me? He's a he's in other words,
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he's going to have a sergeant under him and all these police officers under him.
50:36
He's not another one. Let me tell you something else. He'll be
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decertified. Yeah, the police officers get certification. You pull a stuthing like
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this, you lose your decertification, which means you cannot be a police officer
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anywhere, anywhere and any small town or whatever. Now the good news is,
50:53
and I've learned this from the young the first accuser, that he has
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a construction company. But he will lose this pension. He will get paid
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back all the money he put puts in, which will come somewhere between one
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hundred and two hundred thousand dollars. I don't think he could survive this as
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a police officer. And that's my feeling. What should the mayor do?
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In your opinion? I know you don't like to get into a mayor good
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ones well, but what should the mayor or? Are those in charge?
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What should they do at this point? And I think that I think he's
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going to have a lawyer and her lawyer, Kevin Baker's at his name,
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city attorney, Kevin Baker. I think Kevin Baker should communicate his lawyer's time
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to go. And this is not going to get any any This is just
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going to be nothing but dirt. The whole way in and unless you want
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to get in the mud. And I think he's not dumb. I mean
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he needs to go and she she can communicate through her lawyer. I think
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he's already demeaned her enough. Quite frankly, he should go. Mayor,
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former mayor Danny Jones. Always a pleasure to have you on the show,
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sir, Thanks for nuts book. I don't know what that what he says
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that, but okay, all right, we'll talk again soon. Man,
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Thanks a lot, thank you, thank you very much. Go make go
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make us some food. Coming up on the show tomorrow, Friday Funhouse guest
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co host tomorrow will be Charleston Radio and DJ Legend JK the DJ on the
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show tomorrow, plus r dot me Please, Pet of the week and some
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high school football about our game tomorrow, n Chris Lawrence will stop by.
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What about wine and art walk? People are all upset because I can't have
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wine and art walk anymore. We're gonna talk about that on the show tomorrow
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as well. Ryan Nichols and my producer Dave Wilson coming up with talk line
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I will see tomorrow. Till then have fun to love somebody w h A
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