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Shohei headed for the BENCH?! Brian Anderson joins FT to talk ALCS, Joe Espada talking to Mariners · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hey, happy Tuesday. Fun one yesterday. We had our show,
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: we had the games, then we had a post-game show.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: We covered both games in that post-game show, so if
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  Speaker 1: you missed anything there, go for it. All of it's
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  Speaker 1: still very relevant before we get ready for the next
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  Speaker 1: one in the ALCS. And in the American League, AJ,
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  Speaker 1: we do have a little bit of news before we
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  Speaker 1: dive back into the postseason. We've spoken about Joe Espada's
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  Speaker 1: unique situation. The Astros appear to be letting his contract
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  Speaker 1: run out and then maybe they'll figure out what they're
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  Speaker 1: doing with him. I think it's a little bit rude,
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  Speaker 1: but the news here from Mark Feinsand is that he's
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  Speaker 1: actually going to chat with the Seattle Mariners about their
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  Speaker 1: open position and the Astros are giving him permission to
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  Speaker 1: do so. It's weird because I guess the contract doesn't end,
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  Speaker 1: but it ends soon and he doesn't have an extension.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is as lame of a duck as
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  Speaker 1: you can get like, Hey, we're going to make you
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  Speaker 1: play out the last season. without a contract, and then
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to let you know still.
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  Speaker 2: Here's my question. How did this get out? Who leaked this, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because did it leak from the Astros side? Did it
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  Speaker 2: leak from the Mariners side? Because this had happened and
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  Speaker 2: nobody knew about it for a while, and now all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden somebody told somebody something, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it came from Joe Espada. So I don't know
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  Speaker 2: where this came from, but it's interesting that this is
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  Speaker 2: getting out now. And I hope it works out for Joe.
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  Speaker 2: I think Joe's an awesome manager. He's an awesome dude
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  Speaker 2: to talk to. He's one of my favorites to go
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  Speaker 2: in and sit down with. I mean, he'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: straight up where we stand. He's an awesome family guy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he's got pictures of his family
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  Speaker 2: all over his office. And he's done a really good
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  Speaker 2: job in Houston. I'm sorry, but with the resources he
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  Speaker 2: was given and the injuries he had to deal with,
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  Speaker 2: to get him into the postseason this year was a
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  Speaker 2: really great job.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, but, Kratz, before you jump in, AJ, everything gets
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  Speaker 1: broken eventually. he has to go to the Astros and
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  Speaker 1: ask them for permission because he's under contract. And then
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  Speaker 1: he's chatting with the Mariners. He's not just talking to
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  Speaker 1: one person with Seattle. So, and same thing probably with Houston, right?
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  Speaker 1: So plenty of people that.
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  Speaker 2: Could, I understand that.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, I mean, that's how news gets broken.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know. It's just funny that, you know, somebody
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  Speaker 2: obviously leaked it to, to, to Mark and then McTaggart
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  Speaker 2: and forget who the other person when that tweet was
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  Speaker 2: that wrote the story. But, Somebody had to leak it
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  Speaker 2: to them, whether it was Astro's side. I would say
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  Speaker 2: it's the Astro's side leaking it. I don't know that,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know why. The Mariners, why would they
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  Speaker 2: want that out there? But I feel like the Astro's
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  Speaker 2: side would leak it because they want to know, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're trying here. We haven't given up on Joe,
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  Speaker 2: but he also wants to talk to other people. It's
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  Speaker 2: not you. It's me, Kratz. It's not you. It's me.
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  Speaker 2: The numbers are just going to work out. Look, he's
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  Speaker 2: a great manager. There's openings.
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  Speaker 4: It's weird that he hasn't had any connection with Dombrowski
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  Speaker 4: over in Philly because that's one of the other openings.
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  Speaker 4: But he knows the division. Like, to me, if I'm
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  Speaker 4: the Mariners, I'm just waiting. I'm sitting there and I'm going, okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 2: October 31st. Gotcha.
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  Speaker 4: Like, he's clearly a guy that, in my opinion, knowing
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  Speaker 4: him but not knowing Dan Wilson at all, would definitely
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  Speaker 4: bring a new voice, a different type of voice. to
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  Speaker 4: that locker room that has good players in it, just
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  Speaker 4: has underachieved.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the call-out about knowing your division. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you bring someone over who's been a rival, and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: tell me everything. So that could be Joe Espada in
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  Speaker 1: this situation for Seattle. They wanted, or they at least
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  Speaker 1: wanted to talk to Torrey Lovello. They never got that
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  Speaker 1: luxury as the Diamondbacks signed up Lovello for another two years.
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  Speaker 1: That's enough of that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back to the postseason. Sorry, who were their
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  Speaker 2: last two managers? No, this is kind of an interesting service. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: What do they kind of have in common? Their statues.
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  Speaker 2: That's one way to put it. I was going to
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  Speaker 2: say they're not very outgoing. Not that they're bad people.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just say that first. They're very reserved, I
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  Speaker 2: would say. I mean that in a nice way. They're
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  Speaker 2: not outgoing. They're not a Pat Murphy. They're not a
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  Speaker 2: Tori Lavello. They're not a Joe Espada. It's very outgoing.
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  Speaker 2: They're not And Scott Service and Dan Wilson, both ex-catchers,
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  Speaker 2: both know the game very well. Both had very good
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  Speaker 2: ties to Jerry DiPoto. Let's not forget. OK, whether I'm blurry,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's, you know, Service was DiPoto's best friend. Dan
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  Speaker 2: Wilson worked for the Mariners for years and years and years.
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  Speaker 2: They had ties to DiPoto. If you're going to go
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  Speaker 2: something completely opposite of that, you've got to go outside
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  Speaker 2: the organization and you've got to find a fiery something
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  Speaker 2: or other, not a And listen, I get that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: or I don't even need to say fiery. I just
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  Speaker 2: mean somebody that's a little more outgoing, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more like to the media, like, hey, here's where we're at.
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  Speaker 2: And someone, I mean, you know, Alex Cora, he's not
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  Speaker 2: going to take the job. But I mean, Tor Lovello
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  Speaker 2: is good like that. I mean, you look at the managers.
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  Speaker 2: Murph is great like that. Dave Roberts is great like that. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Cash is great like that. Even Voter is great
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  Speaker 2: like that as far as like having a presence outside
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  Speaker 2: of just in the locker room. which the locker room matters,
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  Speaker 2: but you're also the head of an– the face. You're
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  Speaker 2: the face of an organization in today's game. You have
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  Speaker 2: to meet with the media multiple times a day. You've
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  Speaker 2: got to give them something. It just can't always be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, we're fine. Yeah, this guy's good.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to give them a little more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a spokesman. There are a lot of media obligations.
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  Speaker 2: That's my opinion. That's my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll have plenty more on that as it surfaces,
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully most of it surfaces after the season because
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  Speaker 1: we're busy right now with the playoffs. Let's hit it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that's where you can find the Dodgers Brewers series continuing.
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  Speaker 1: I know he's one of the best players ever, and
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  Speaker 1: some people think he gets talked about too much, but
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  Speaker 1: he's one of the best players ever. He pitches and
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  Speaker 1: hits in the past. Right now, he's only hitting. And
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  Speaker 1: he might not even be hitting. AJ, I would like
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  Speaker 1: to start our conversation with Shohei Otani because this is
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  Speaker 1: the travel day and this is all of the talk, right?
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  Speaker 1: What's different about the Dodgers? Well, they have one extra
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  Speaker 1: base hit in their first two games. And if you
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: don't think we've been waxing poetic about the Brewers, then
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  Speaker 1: watch the postgame show that we did and the 15-minute segment.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to spend a few minutes on Shohei
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  Speaker 1: Otani and the psychology of how to deal with this, right?
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  Speaker 1: He has at least two injuries that I, that appeared
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  Speaker 1: to be lingering and he was on the IL really
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  Speaker 1: late at the end of the season here to try
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  Speaker 1: and come back from.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't look like himself in basically any semblance of
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  Speaker 1: what he used to be as a hitter. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure he'll be back to that. But when you see
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  Speaker 1: him like this and he doesn't have his lower half
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  Speaker 1: and he's out in front and he's waving at pitches
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  Speaker 1: away and he is not hitting the ball nearly as
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  Speaker 1: hard and you, you, mentioned how Joe Davis brought up
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  Speaker 1: he's basically become a slap hitter, right? He's shortening up.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do?
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  Speaker 1: You tried to bond. You tried to bond. What do
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  Speaker 1: you do? What's the plan here?
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  Speaker 2: You hope and pray that he gets healthy overnight. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what you do. What can you do? You're
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  Speaker 2: not benching. Listen, we all love Katie Wu, okay? And
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  Speaker 2: we love that she's great at her job. But they're
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  Speaker 2: discussing benching him. So, okay, Scott, you love role play.
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you– be Dave Roberts and you come to
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  Speaker 2: me and I'll be Shohei Otani and you, you act
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  Speaker 2: like you're going to bench me and let's go from there. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I'm honored. Um, can I, can I bring my bench
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  Speaker 1: coach to, or, and, or actually, you know what I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to bring? Actually, you know what I'm going to do?
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  Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Friedman because this, this was actually in the
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  Speaker 1: story and they said he has to be involved, right?
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  Speaker 1: He's got that key man clause. So Friedman leaves, he leaves.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm Friedman.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I like to play the GM or PBO role and
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to bring my manager, uh, who's a little
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  Speaker 1: taller and, um, more clean, Mr. Clean looking Eric Kratz
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  Speaker 1: with me. So Kratz, you're Dave Roberts. You start off
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  Speaker 1: the combo with Shohei. I'm just kind of next to you.
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  Speaker 1: So go ahead. And just remember, we just said we
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  Speaker 1: don't want him playing in game three because we think
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  Speaker 1: he looks like a mess.
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  Speaker 2: Shohei, how are you feeling? I'm fine. I can play.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't ask you if you could play. I said,
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  Speaker 2: how are you feeling? I feel great.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm ready to help the team. How
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  Speaker 4: does that back knee feel? Because it looks like when
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  Speaker 4: I'm watching in the game, it looks like you're not
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  Speaker 4: able to get on it in BP. or during the game.
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  Speaker 4: So it just seems like it's not, you're not being
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  Speaker 4: totally honest with me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm giving you all I got and that's the best
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  Speaker 2: I can do. And me in the lineup at 70%
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  Speaker 2: is better than anyone you're going to put in at
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  Speaker 2: a hundred percent. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Me and Andrew, we're going to talk about this and
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  Speaker 4: ultimately we're the ones that are going to make the
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  Speaker 4: decision and just, just be aware that we're thinking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, great. Uh, yeah, I'm playing. Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Doc, hold on. Shohei, you said you feel great
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  Speaker 1: and 70%. 70% is not great. And do you feel 70%?
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  Speaker 1: Because we have you signed up for another, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: what is it, six years? We just want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure you're going to be okay even for next year
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  Speaker 1: and not cause further injury here. Your at-bats look nothing
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  Speaker 1: like they usually do. I think that's a fair thing
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  Speaker 1: to say. Do you agree?
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  Speaker 2: That's fair, but I'm just in a rut right now.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, whatever issues I have, I can
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  Speaker 2: have cleaned up and be ready for spring training. Doctor
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  Speaker 2: said I can't hurt it any worse, so why would
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  Speaker 2: you take me out of the lineup?
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  Speaker 4: Andrew, Andrew, I wouldn't have brought up the whole seven-year contract.
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  Speaker 4: This guy right here, he lives for this moment. That's
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  Speaker 4: why we let him pitch as long as he did.
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  Speaker 4: That's why we let.
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  Speaker 2: Him go for his Cy Young, even though you and I,
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  Speaker 2: we both knew this was going to tear him apart
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  Speaker 2: because he's 32. Can he hear us? Can you hear us?
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  Speaker 1: Because if you can't... No, no, we're talking in each
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  Speaker 1: other's heads, but then if we're doing that, I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk back to you, okay? Jose de Paula, who
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  Speaker 1: has five... minutes in the big leagues is a way
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  Speaker 1: better option than him right now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay. You really think that? Okay. And then let
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  Speaker 2: that backfire. That's what's going to happen. Let that. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You come to me and I'm show. Hey, and again,
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  Speaker 2: this is all role play. So nobody take this all serious. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Cause someone out there is going to say, You know, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Shohei's not a team player. We don't think Shohei's a
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  Speaker 2: team player. Stop. But here's the thing. If you go
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  Speaker 2: and you, fine, you want to play Josue de Paula, okay, fine.
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  Speaker 2: And he goes out there and he's facing Robert Gasser
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  Speaker 2: and he punches out three times and then you got
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  Speaker 2: a pinch hit for him with a righty at some point,
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  Speaker 2: Kike or Rojas, whoever you do it for, and you
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  Speaker 2: don't play me and we lose two to one. Answer
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  Speaker 2: the questions. Why didn't Shohei play? Because Shohei don't talk.
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  Speaker 2: Because Shohei don't talk. Shohei doesn't talk, right? So he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't answer questions. So you guys have to answer questions
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  Speaker 2: for me. So, Dave, I'm going to start with you.
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  Speaker 2: Answer the question why I didn't play. I'm still Dave.
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: This is a tough decision that we had to make.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't feel like the at-bats that he was having
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  Speaker 4: was giving us the best chance of winning.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: And honestly, outside of my role play here, I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to sit here and go, you know what? This team,
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of guys. Max Muncy should have been
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  Speaker 4: starting every single game of the previous series. How did
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  Speaker 4: that work out for us? I'm making moves. I don't
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  Speaker 4: need to answer to people about the moves that I make.
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  Speaker 4: I need to get my team in the best spot possible.
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  Speaker 4: I bet there was seven bullpen guys last year that
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  Speaker 4: were like, what?
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  Speaker 2: Why is Yamamoto going in? He just pitched yesterday. Why
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  Speaker 2: can't I pitch? I'm ready.
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  Speaker 4: And Dave Roberts is like, I'm going to make the
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  Speaker 4: moves that I think are the best moves. And so
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  Speaker 4: if he thinks he's going to take them out, which
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  Speaker 4: I don't agree with, I don't think they're taking them
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  Speaker 4: out in game three. If he looks the same in
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  Speaker 4: game three, I would, I would revisit that.
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• 13:01
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  Speaker 2: A little different than the face of baseball. A little
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  Speaker 2: different than the face of baseball. I'm sorry, and it
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't matter, but it matters. I know what y'all are saying,
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  Speaker 2: and I agree that it doesn't look right. I just
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  Speaker 2: don't think that they have How do I say this
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  Speaker 2: politically correct? I don't know. They have the guts. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. No, they have the option. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if they have the guts to do it. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that they do. Should they do it? That's a
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  Speaker 2: really tough call. But there's an old saying. You go
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  Speaker 2: with the date that brought you here or whatever. You
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: go with the horses that got you here or whatever
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  Speaker 2: that is. Yeah, I don't know what you do.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of the more fascinating, impossible situations that
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  Speaker 2: we've seen in a long time.
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  Speaker 4: AJ, let me ask you this question. I'm asking AJ.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not asking Shohei anymore. Do you think, based on
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  Speaker 4: the at-bats that you've seen, he is their best option?
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  Speaker 4: I want to say they have 14 position players, but
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  Speaker 4: I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It might be 13. Is he their best option right
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  Speaker 2: now at DH? It's not like they're like, hey, we
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  Speaker 2: need you to go play right field.
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  Speaker 4: And it's kind of tough. We'll get you out of
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  Speaker 4: there in the seventh. Is he their best option right now?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Against Gasser, a lefty who kind of
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  Speaker 2: throws funky from down here a little bit. DePaulo's left-handed too, though,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't know. Again, this is going to be
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  Speaker 2: fascinating to see if this happens. If this happens, it's
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  Speaker 2: breaking news. Not only in– it's all over the world
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  Speaker 2: breaking news to show he's not playing. Wow. Is he
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  Speaker 2: the best option? I'm going to say– Gosh, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say this. I'm not going to answer that question.
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  Speaker 1: No, you have to. You're a talking head. You're not
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  Speaker 1: going to answer who the best option is right now?
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's see. Who's going to play second? Kike's going
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  Speaker 2: to play second against a lefty, right? Is Max going
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  Speaker 2: to play, or are they going to go Rojas, Kike?
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  Speaker 2: Kike at third, Rojas at second. Because Gaster's only going
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: to go probably three innings, more than likely. So where
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: do you do that? And then who's left? Their backup catcher,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: who there's not, who's Will Smith, is in there. And
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: then you have Tommy Edmond or Shohei or DePaula. I'm sorry.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to put Shohei in there over DePaula. I
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: know DePaula is super prospect, but I'm taking the shot
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: that Shohei figures something out on the off day and
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: he runs into one. It's just, I don't know. I mean,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We talked about it earlier. You want
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Tommy Edmond hitting right-handed. We know that. You want Tommy
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Edmond hitting right-handed. So he's going to be in the
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: lineup somewhere. Miggy is not a better hitter than Shohei
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: at 70%.
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: No.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Although he hit a big home run last year.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: He did hit a big home run. I'm not denying that.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Kike is clearly a better option. So he needs to
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: be in there right now. If you're waiting for one shot,
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: do you pull a Gibby type of thing and have
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: Shohei on the bench?
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Or is Shohei.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Shohei doesn't start I'm not using him. Well, Shohei is
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: going to say all the right things and he's going
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: to publicly, but behind the scenes, he's, he'll be, I'm not,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he'll be pretty upset. I mean, will
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: he go up there and take in a bat if
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: he needs to?
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. He's not going to say no to that. I mean,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: has anyone ever said, no man, it's a big playoff game.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to take in it. I'm sure there's
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: been somebody I don't know about taking that about. I mean,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't see that happening, but again, here's
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: the example. Here's the example. Max or Shohei. That's a
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: great point, Mark. Max or Shohei is the left-handed at bat.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Max, for sure. It's not even close. Shohei doesn't have.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Then you.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Take Shohei out and you put Kike at DH? Tommy
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Edmond at DH?
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: I give myself a little bit of flexibility at DH.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I definitely have Max. If Max is playing over him,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: I have him playing third. All this to say, where
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: has this ever been in the postseason before? I've talked
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: about this with Joe Girardi so many times. Joe Girardi
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: pinch hits. for Alex Rodriguez when he was struggling.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Not hurt, struggling. And I get it.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Alex Rodriguez is not Shohei Otani. I'm not saying that.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I'm saying from a manager playing with a.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Wait, what year was this? What year was this? I
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: want to say he pinch hit Raul Banez for him.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I probably would have done that too. Raul Banez was
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: a great I want to say 12, but I don't
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: think so. I'm getting my years mixed up because Raul
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: had that big one where he hit the homer and
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: then he came back again against the Orioles. Before or
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: after his year suspension for doing things that were not illegal?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I think this was before.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: How did we get to A-Rod right now?
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: All I'm saying is managers– Managers needing to be that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: And I think Dave has the cachet to be able
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: to do this. I think he has that. And if
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: they feel that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Look, we're watching how many at-bats a day. They watch
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: him walk around. They see him get treatment. They see
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: him hitting in the cage. They see him now hitting
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: on the field, which we've never seen. Or we rarely see.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: So they see more than we see.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: And I think Dave has the moxie to do it,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: if it's needed to be done.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Good talk.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: There it is.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I got to do role play, and I
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: didn't even cue it up. So I already won 10
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: minutes into the show.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Abanya is the two homers, by the way, in that game,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: tying a homer in the ninth.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Walk off in the 12th to win the game.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I remember– I'll never forget that because my daughter just
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: came home from the hospital that night and she was flipped.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: She was sleeping during the day and awake during the night.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: So I watched the whole game with her just laying
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: on my chest, just like– so me and Raul have
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: that connection from being friends, but also the fact that
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: he hit some big homers. But you have to– You
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: lose because Shohei's in the lineup?
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: No.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: You lose because of what Scott said right out of
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: the jump. One extra base hit? That's why you lose.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Because this team doesn't have extra base hits and you
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: need it. And that's why you're thinking about taking Shohei
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Otani out of the lineup.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this team had eight homers in four games in
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the DS. They have one extra base hit in two games.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: against a better pitching staff right now in the Milwaukee Brewers.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: This is their thing.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: We said this. We said this. They don't hit. They
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: haven't hit. They haven't hit. They just hit home runs.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Against the Braves, they just hit home runs. But even
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Analytics nerds will tell you the Dodgers have a better
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: contact rate and less Ks this year than the Brewers.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they're also the– A little different baseball game. Anyway,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: by the way, the Dodgers didn't hit last year in
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. If you remember, actually their pitching carried them
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: to the World Series. It was their pitching and we
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: were like, wait, what? This is the stacked lineup and
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: it didn't hit last year and they still figured out
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: a win. Remember at the end of the year, everyone's like,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: this lineup can't hit. What's wrong with the Dodgers? And
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: they still won because they're pitching. Well, they weren't counting it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: You guys, Dave Roberts, he wasn't counting on Yamamoto to
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: not make it out of third inning yesterday. I know
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I wasn't in my lock of the day. Anyways.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody expected that. I mean, that was
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the rarest of occurrences. Regular season, postseason, obviously he plays
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: up in the postseason. Last year, LCS in Milwaukee, complete game.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: He goes deeper into starts than anyone in baseball this year.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: We can go on and on. That's it for now
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: on this series. We'll do more at some point later.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And let us know if you're watching this, what you
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: would do with Shohei Otani. You can do your own
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: role play in the comments. Next up, Brian Anderson will
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: talk to us about the American League. And a reminder, though,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: on the National League side, there's one place to go
• 21:11
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• 21:14
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• 21:20
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• 21:23
  Speaker 1: at foxone.com. Hey, Brewers up 2-0. I've seen some merch
• 21:31
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• 21:35
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• 21:38
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• 21:43
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• 21:48
  Speaker 1: quote from AJ on Otani. He might wake up one
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: day and say, I ain't pitching anymore. AJ was hinting
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that maybe that could be next year. Some replies for
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the people. We had one person say, why don't they
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: just make him the closer? We had another person say
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: he should pitch from roughly late August onward every year,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: moving forward, possibly not even as a full-time starter. Another
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: person replied saying the organization has failed him and the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: team did not save the player from himself. The most
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: vital one at that. And it's biting them over now.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And let's hope not for the future. AJ, which response
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: did you like best?
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Well, he's not going to be the closer because you
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: can't do that because we've talked about the many reasons
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: why that doesn't work. Because if you didn't have to,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: if you want to keep his back, there's a whole
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: there's a whole list of reasons why that's really tough
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: to do. he's got to warm up somehow, you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and there's a whole, there's a whole, what if he's
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: up to bat and he's on the bases and he
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: needs to warm up, you can't take him out and
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: re-up him. So there's a reason why making him the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: closer is really hard. I mean, are they going to
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: make him Blake Stone, Tyler Glass now and Kike Hernandez,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: put them on the shelf until August as a pitcher
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and then bust him out. So he's ready in September
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and October, maybe, I don't know. And then the other
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: one is, you know, he's really valuable as a DH
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: when he hits, goes 50, 50 and wins the MVP. So,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: and he's healthy. So, Yeah. I mean, all these, some
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: of these are viable. Some of them are, but the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: one about the closer, I just don't think, I mean,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I know we you've said that Scott, but God forbid
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: he blows a save and then they got to take
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: him out. Then they, so there's, there's, there's reasons why
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: that that's not the right response. So I don't know
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: what the answer is. I just don't know. But I
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: said this from the time he signed the contract, what
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: happens if he wakes up one day and doesn't want
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to pitch anymore? Is the contract still worth it? And
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: everybody said, yes. So it's worth it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: This is the call of the Australian rubber bird.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Snap!
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Snap!
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: This is the call of the Alaskan Chili Bird. Kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki-k
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Ray's broadcaster, Brian Anderson, back on FT to talk about
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: what happened with the Rays in game one, how that
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: can change in game two. And great to have you on.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: How often are you hearing the Brian Anderson mix-ups? We
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: even have some people behind the scenes on our staff,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I won't name names, who are like, wait, I'm getting confused.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, plenty. Trust me, plenty. And we've been in contact.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: When TBS was going to be doing the DS into
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: the ALCS, I've been talking with Brian quite a bit,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: just giving him some insight on some of the guys
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: and some of the goings-on of the Rays. But, yes,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: there have been plenty of people from back home reaching out.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: I didn't know you were doing this game. I'm like, well,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: I'm not play-by-play, and that's not really my voice. So
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I'm watching it sitting at home just like everybody else.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, yeah. Go ahead, AJ.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: No, go ahead, Scotty. Well, no, I was going to say,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: if you're sitting at home, you weren't at the game
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: last night? You weren't at the trough? You weren't rooting hard?
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: You weren't one of those fans sitting there going, how
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: did this happen? And trust me, that's what I would
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: have been doing. No, before, well, last week, we had
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: horrible weather here in Florida. We had like a three
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: or four day span where you really didn't even see
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: the sun. It was just raining heavily.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: All day long.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: And so all of my kids' practices, games, everything got canceled.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: So this week, it has been all hands on deck.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: It's been my week with the kids. They have had,
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, double headers. It's been nonstop since schools let out.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: So I have not been able to get down there.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Won't be able to get down there tonight either. If
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: it gets back here with a six or seven, yes,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: I will be there with bells on wondering what is
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: going on. But You know, let's see if it gets
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: back here. I'll tell you what, last night, that's a
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: tough loss. That is a really tough loss. That reminds
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: me a lot. And I was, you know, other people
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: that I've been talking with, I said it reminds me
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: a lot of in 1999 when I was with the.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Diamondbacks, we won the division.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: And we were going to be hosting the DS, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: it was either going to be the Mets or the Reds.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: And they had to have a play-in game.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: Game 163, and the Mets had to use their ace,
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Al Leiter, in that game.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: He threw great. I think they beat the Reds 4-0,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: and now they.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Come into Bank One ballpark. We've got Randy Johnson set
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: up game one. We've got the home field advantage. They
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: have to go with Masato Yoshi. You're only going to
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: see Al Leiter potentially in a game four, and they
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: came in. We were the prohibitive favorites in that series,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: and they stole game one. And I'm going to tell
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: you what, it put our team back on its heels,
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: and it really kind of flipped the series. Now, obviously,
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: it was a five-game series. It was shorter, so there
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: wasn't as much time to recover. But them stealing game
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: one in that series, I was telling anybody that'll listen,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: if Cleveland can somehow come in with Foster Griffin on
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: the mound and Drew Rasmussen, game one at home, The buildup,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: the Rays are rested. They have their pitching staff ready
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: to go just like they want it. Cleveland had to
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: use Messick and Williams just to get to this game.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: 48 hours later.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: If Cleveland somehow is able to steal game one, that
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: is a tough loss for the Rays, and that could
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: flip this series on its head because you win that
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: game one, and now tonight you've got Parker Messick going
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: against the Rays.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: He has had his way.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: With the Rays I think it's been four starts against
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: them he's gone 26 in the third innings given up
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: three earned runs two walks they haven't really even threatened
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: him he has thrown the ball great against the Rays
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: they've not had an answer for him at all so now.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Cleveland wins game one and you've got a Ray killer
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: going here in game two.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, game three, Gavin Williams, the, the.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: You know, the guardians version of drew Rasmus and you
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: have him waiting up in Cleveland.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: So last night was a, was a tough loss. We'll
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: see how they bounce back today.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Ryan. I said this last night on the post game.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: This reminds me, you remember 99, 2005. Okay. Seven game series. We're,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: we're playing. We sweep the, we sweep the Red Sox
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: and the, Angels had to play the Yankees, and they
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: had a rainout, so they had to fly to New York.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: They went game five. They had to fly back to Anaheim,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: play game five, and then fly right to Chicago. Excuse me.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: We had our pitching lined up. They had Paul Bird.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, these guys are going to kill Paul Bird.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I think we lost two to one, right? And everyone's like, oh, no,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: the series is over. We lost two to one at home. Everyone,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: the series is over, right? And then we went out
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: and beat their ass the next four games, and we
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: lost again. Okay? Yeah. You know, I think their second
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: game they had, I forget who they had going, but
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: it was the same. I think it was Jared Washburn, right?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: He's a White Sox killer his whole career. You know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: we had Burley after Contreras who hadn't lost in forever.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: We lost. And then, you know, so anyways, it can
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: work both ways, right? But the thing for me that's... No, no, no, go, go, go. No,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: but the thing for me that stood out was that
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: they scored the two runs in the first inning, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: then they just went silent. There was no pressure, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the Rays always seem to put pressure, and that went away.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Is that more on the Rays, or is that more
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: on how well the Guardians pitched after the first inning?
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of both.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: I think Foster Griffin, he had not had many innings
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: in the last few weeks. And so it was a little,
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: and I agree with you, the way that those runs
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: were scored, Yandy Diaz jumps all over that ball, hits
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: it so hard, it scoots right by Kwon. Then the
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Rays go to the small ball like we had talked previously.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: They don't wait until late in the game. you know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: and maybe you want, you know, a Rhonda to swing
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: the bat there, go for the beginning, but he lays
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: down the bunt. Caminero squeezes one through and you get
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: that first run on the board. Then.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I thought that even after that, the two out hitting,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the two strike hitting, Victor Mason Jr.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Going the other way, DeLucas staying on a ball that's
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: off the plate away.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: And using the middle of the field.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: I thought their approach, it didn't look like a team
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: that hadn't played a whole lot of baseball here recently.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: And you thought, okay, two to nothing. Yes, now you
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: start to.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Apply more of that pressure and you start to build
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: that lead. And you're right, it dried up in a hurry.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: And I think that the opportunities started, you know, Griffin
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: got on that run where he retired like seven in
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: a row and kind of got his footing and put
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: that Rays lineup back on its, you know, back on
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: its heels just a little bit. And then, you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: they came in and threw the ball, threw the ball
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: great after that. And the Rays could really get nothing going.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: And so, yeah, that was certainly frustrating. And then you
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: hit the home run to cut the lead 2-1, and
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: you're like, boy, this thing just got really close. It
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: just got really close, closer than 2-0. You just felt
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: like something was going to flip there.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, the decision to send Drew back
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: out for the seventh.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: And I think, you know, Kevin looked at his pitch count.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: He did have a lot of high-leverage pitches thrown and innings.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: He had some traffic out there, but he trusts his guy.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, the game is tied, and.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: You know, then you, then you go from there.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: I thought a couple of things that were interesting to
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: me is once you got through the seventh inning and
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: now this game is, it's even up, you, you have
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: the home field advantage and you get to the top
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: of the eighth inning. And I understand matchups and I
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: understand what, what they're trying to do, but Tyler Wells
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: is out there starting the top of the eighth inning
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: and he hadn't thrown a competitive pitch in a month.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: And, and I know that you have to get them
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I he's done the job, especially since coming over to
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: the race, he was absolutely fantastic. But, you know, you
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: also had the option of Kevin Kelly, who has been
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: locked and loaded, you know, all season long. And you
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: go with Wells, and that doesn't quite work out. And then,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: you know, when you end up cutting the lead back
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: to one going into the ninth, you know, you go
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: with Cole Solcer, and then it starts to, it starts
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: to get away from you a little bit. So I'm
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: sure it was a frustrating night, you know, for the
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Rays and that dugout and those players and staff. But
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: to your point, it can flip tonight. You come out
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: there and that's what I cannot.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Wait to see. You know, what is Freddy Peralta going
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: to look like?
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Is he going to be the guy that's in command
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: and control like he was as he was the American
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: League Pitcher of the Month in September? And will this
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: team look like it's calmed down just a little bit
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: and get back to playing that baseball where they apply
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: that pressure and hope to get the opposition to crack.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Never thought we'd hear somebody say Kevin Cash stuck with
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: his guy and left him in there too long. That
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: shades of 2020, six years, a lot of people make adjustments.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: My question to you is this team led the American
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: League East almost the entire year. This team never trailed
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: in the last series, the division series? Do they have
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: the get back? Do they have the comeback in them?
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Or is this the one area of new territory that
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: they have to navigate?
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: You know, that's interesting. I think this is a resilient team.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: It's a close group. They play selfless baseball. And I
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: think that they have that pluck to absolutely bounce right back.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: The only caveat to.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: All of that is it's October baseball. And that's different
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: for different guys. I can remember when I was getting drafted,
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: you know, junior in college and Tony LaCava with the angels,
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: we were talking after a game one time and he said,
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: you know, not everybody can play in October. And I
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: didn't really understand it. I didn't really push back. And
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: I remember thinking, well, what.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Do you mean?
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, January, June, October, baseball's baseball. And I didn't
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: really give it much thought. I just thought it was
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: a strange thing to say. Four years later, I get
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: called into Mike Hargrove's office. We're getting ready to start
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: the ALCS in 1997. And he says, hey, listen, we're
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: going to activate you. You're going to be obviously coming
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: out of the pen. I don't have any idea how
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: I'm going to use you. You just be ready from
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: the first pitch.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: And I was like, great. And so I go out
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: to batting practice.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: And we may have talked about this before, but, you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: BP during the regular season is like a necessary even.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: BP during the post season, it's an event.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: You know, you've got media everywhere. There's a buzz in
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: the stadium.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: It's a thing.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: And I remember being out in left center field because
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: I like the power shag and get my running in
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: that way. And I'm getting ready to go. And those
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: words of Tony LaCava came flooding back. And I was literally,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: it was just a binging moment where I was.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Like, I get it. I get what he meant. October,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: the stage is bigger.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: The lights are brighter. Some guys can handle it. Some
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: guys can't. And I understood what he meant by that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: It's the same sport in October. It's a different game.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: And that's when you'll see what guys are made of.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: And I think this team, they've shown that pluck all
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: year in the toughest division in baseball or one of
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: the toughest divisions ever.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: In baseball.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: And so I think that they absolutely have it in them.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: You've seen it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: During the course of the regular season, but October can
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: be a little bit of a different animal. That's why
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: I'll be so anxious to see what the first few
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: innings look like tonight.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Tony LaCava, what a special man. I love that that's
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: the first time that his name has been brought up
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: on this show.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: But anyway, incredible, incredible man. What is the ideal path?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: It's Freddie P to who? to Brian Baker based on
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: how this team's been pitching the best.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: If you could get, I mean, I love that combination,
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Freddie Peralta, you know, Cam Boozer, he can be absolutely
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: overpowering and, and you know, and then, you know, Kevin
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Kelly gets a lot of big outs. I, you'd love
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: to see him, you know, be able to be a
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: part of it. And then, you know, and then Baker, Baker,
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: this guy, his last blown save was May 13th. He's
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: been absolutely lights out, but you know how it's going
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: to go. It's going to be all matchup based. They're
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: not going to veer from too much of what they've
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: done all season long. And that's what the key is.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: I think the key is the start by Freddie. What
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: is he able to give you? And he certainly, after
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: his first four or five starts with the Rays, where
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: he was trying to gather his footing, he was able
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: to do that.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: And then he was lights out in September. And he
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: was good in.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: The division series against the Yankees. And you'd like to
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: see him get into a good rhythm. That's why, again,
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: those first couple innings, Freddie tells you an awful lot
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: about his outings early in the game. If he's out
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: there and his misses aren't egregious and he's around the
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: zone and he's getting that change up involved in a
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: lot of strikes and controlling the count, then you feel
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: pretty good about him being able to give you a
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: really good outing and get deeper into the game. And
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: I think that's what Kevin Cash really, really would like.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting when he did stick with
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Drew going into that seventh inning. I know the pitch
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: count wasn't out of hand, but again, the high leverage pitches,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: the high leverage situations, you have to ask yourself the question,
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: did he stick with them because he didn't want to
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: go to the pen quite yet? He wanted to shorten
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: the number of outs that they were going to have
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: to get, or did he just go with his horse?
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Only Kevin Cash knows that. But that's what I thought,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: you know, was interesting. So first few innings, see how
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: dialed in Freddie is, how comfortable he looks. And if
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: he looks comfortable, then you've got a chance to limit
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: the outs of the bullpen before you get to Baker,
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: who's been absolutely lights out.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: B.A., one of the great things about the Rays and
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: the Brewers, okay, we're going to use that. Actually, all
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: four of these teams that are left, I'm going to
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: say it, they play the game the right way, okay?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: The right way is they– They do the small things, right?
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: They're not just waiting on a home run. Maybe the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Dodgers a little bit more than the other three teams.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: And the Rays can hit home runs. I know that
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: with Caminero and Aranda and Yandy and those guys and
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: even Liam Hicks to an extent. How fun is it
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: to watch his team every day? I mean, seriously, it
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: must take you back. You mentioned 1999, even before that probably, right, 97.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: It was a different game, and you kind of see
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: it kind of turning back to that a little bit
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: because three of the four teams– and listen, the Dodgers
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: play the game the right way. They just do it
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: with higher payroll, okay? But they play hard. They do
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of the right things. But the Brewers, the Guardians–
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: And the Rays, they play the game different, okay? Pressure, pressure, pressure, pitching, defense, pressure,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: steal a base, bunt a guy over. How fun is
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: that every day for you to sit there and go, man,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I get to watch cool baseball every day?
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: It's a blast.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: It absolutely is a blast because you just don't know
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: how they're going to win that night. They can beat
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: you every way imaginable. Every way that this game allows
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: you to beat a team, they can do it. You
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: think about from the month of July on, and the
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Rays at the end of the day didn't end up
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: being a big home run hitting team.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: But as you mentioned, there's a lot of guys that
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: are capable.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: And from July on, they were right there in the
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: top two or three in the American League in homers.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: But then you juxtapose that against You know, they led
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: the league in bunt hits, sacrifice bunts, safety squeeze. They're
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: a very aggressive base running team. they have the most, well,
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: in my opinion, but from what I've seen, they have
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: the most aggressive third base coach that you will find
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: in Brady Williams. I mean, if he's not sending you,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: your score probability is zero because if there's any probability
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: you're going, and that's just the way they go. And
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: you know, you'll run into some outs here or there,
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: but you're going to score a lot of runs that
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: you probably shouldn't have either. So they put so much pressure.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: You saw it in the division series with the Yankees,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: you know, the infield pulled in.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Chopper, here comes Lombard.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: You know, he's trying to make a play and a
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: throw to the plate before he actually gets the baseball.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: That's what the Rays do with their speed, their aggressiveness.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: They put pressure on a defense. And like any other sport,
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: you apply enough pressure, mistakes will get made. And so
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: it is absolutely a blast. And not to mention the
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: other side. where they pitched so well, strong bullpen, lockdown closer,
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: very good defensively.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: They just don't beat themselves.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: And they have a lot of tools in the toolbox
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: to be able to beat you. So it was absolutely
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: a blast all year long, just wondering, how are they
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: going to do it tonight?
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Will it be a couple of home runs? Are they
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: going to bunt?
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Will there be the first and third, one out, no out,
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: safety squeeze, and get the run in that way? They really,
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: really frustrate opposing defense's And, you know, that's the other
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: thing that we've seen during the course of the year
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: is teams have a hard time defending them. They play
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: a style of baseball that you're not used to playing against.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: And so now all of a sudden you see guys
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: going to the wrong base with the throw. You see
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: guys not really knowing where to go. There was a
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: game I was at home. It was one series I
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: didn't do. It was a home series against the Padres.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: And it was a close game and it was getting late.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: And Liam Hicks ended up at first base. They had
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: a runner at first and third Chandler Simpson was at
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: the plate. They pinch ran Kenny Piper, the third catcher
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: for Liam Hicks at first. And so you're watching it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: There's one out first and third, first pitch Chandler. You're
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: thinking maybe that bump play and Chandler takes the pitch
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: for ball one, second pitch. He doesn't square around again,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: takes it for ball two. All of a sudden there's
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: a play at second. And I'm sitting at home thinking,
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: why is Kenny Piper stealing here? Like, this is not
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: where you would send in. I know he runs well
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: for a catcher, but why would he be stealing right there?
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Well, then you go to the high home camera.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: The first and third basemen are playing way in the turf.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Nobody's holding Piper on. And so Kevin Cash is like, go,
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: go run.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: So you see these teams, they just don't know.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: They were so sure that Chandler was going to bunt
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: that they just completely skewed their defense that all of
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: a sudden now you've got second and third and one out.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: And the Rays obviously end up winning that ball game.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: But you see examples like that all the time where
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: defenses just aren't quite sure where to go with the ball,
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: how to play them, what base to cover, and the
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: Rays take full advantage of that.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: B.A., last one, and we've got next guest waiting, so
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I want it quick if we can. But what happened
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: to Shane McClanahan? I know he's out, obviously, for the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: rest of the postseason, and he's frustrated. The quotes to
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: me were like, oh, we're just going to focus on
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: next year at this point. Was it injury? Did they
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: just feel like he wasn't going to be able to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: get back going again? It felt like a little cryptic
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: on the quotes, but you follow the teamwork closely.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, your guess is as good as mine.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: I know that he had the back issue and had
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: to come out of a game and, you know, went
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: on the I.L. and was able to, you know, to
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: come back, get back into, you know, the regular season,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: get back into some games and looked good. And then
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden you get word that he's going
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: on the I.L. with forearm tightness and. I mean, that's
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: the extent of what we know. And typically, you know
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: how these things go, that you have these fake ILs
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: and you go on. And typically when you do that,
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: if you were going to do that, it's going to
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: be a calf. a quad, something that's not going to
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: affect you, especially when you're talking about a pitcher, that's
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: not going.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: To affect his arm.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: So when the diagnosis was forearm tightness, then you're like, okay,
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: well then he must have forearm tightness. I don't think
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: that'd be something that you'd be messing around with.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: And if that's the case, with him having not pitched.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Since 23, then you kind of understand the route that
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: it took Um, but, but listen, I, that is a,
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: that's a, that's a tough one. Cause you'd love to
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: have them on that staff with what he brings, but
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: unfortunately the, the, the forearm is going to, is going
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: to keep them out and we'll, we'll see where that
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: takes them in the future. But, um, you know, obviously
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: not going to be able to help the team this year.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: It's a bummer. I mean, it was a Cy Young guy,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: a candidate looked like he was going to be a
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: big part of it for a while. BA thanks for
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the time, dude. Great catching up. We love the insight
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and good luck to your race tonight. Okay.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: All right, boys. Have a great day. Take care.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: You do this every day at your house, PA.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: This is the fall tree.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: It's a lazy man's way of not taking down the tree.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: We had a spring Easter tree. We had a 4th
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: of July summer tree. Now we've got the fall tree
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: rolling right into Christmas. That's just a lazy.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Man's way of doing things. There you go.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: People in the comments were like, what is that? And
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I said, I think it's a Halloween tree because it
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: had those vibes. Fall tree, close enough. We're good. I
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: nailed it. I feel good about my day.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Done. I like it. I like it.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Enjoy it, man. We'll talk soon, okay?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: See you, boys.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Hey, Bob Nightingale wrote a good story about the owner
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: of the Brewers, Marc Atanasio, who's been at it for
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a minute, and the team being two victories away from
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: their first pennant since 1982, six victories from their first title.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: And then this is the interesting part. I mean, people
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: can read the article, but perhaps a little more than
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: two years from becoming the next commissioner of baseball. Could
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: be a Bud Selig remix here. You get someone from
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the Milwaukee part of baseball to take over for commissioner Manfred.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Nobody really knows who the successor is like there, there
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: aren't really any candidates that are standing out yet. People
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: say Theo Epstein, I don't think he wants it. And
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, there's some internal guys that
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think will win. So maybe Altonacio has a shot.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Why would he take that job?
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Just to say, didn't he have other interests besides baseball?
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he does. I love to, I love talking
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: to that guy, by the way. He's always available. Man,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: you go to a Brewers game, he's at almost every game. Oh, man.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: He's talking to Matt Arnold. He's talking to Murph. He's
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: talking to the media. Man, this guy's awesome, man. I
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: like Mark Antanasio a lot. Yes, he's a guy. And,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, I mean, he's rich. But, like,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: what does a commissioner get paid?
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Like $ 30 million a year?
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Something like that.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I guess there's that.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're a billionaire or own a billion-dollar
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: asset plus.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: He can just sell it. I mean, he's going to
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: have to sell it. You can't own a team and
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: be the commissioners.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: So you cash out.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Bud Sealy did it.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Right, I know, but I'm saying like.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Not anymore, you can't.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Marc-Antonio, like you guys said, loves the game. He's around.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: He wants to be around the game. That's why he's
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: doing it. I mean, the money is really good, but
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: for him, it's not going to make or break his life.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: He's doing pretty well.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Whoever becomes a commissioner, I hope their goal is to
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: make baseball better, not suffice the owners. Can that happen?
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: No.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Because he's the boss of the owners. Or he's the
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: mouthpiece of the owners. He's the spokesperson. He's not the boss.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: But does someone that doesn't need the money and has
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: been an owner play better? That's a decent argument that
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: we can have at some point in the offseason where
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: it's like, I don't care about the money. You can
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: fire me tomorrow.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: We're going to have lots of time to talk about
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: this in the offseason starting December 1st. We're going to
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: have months and months of talking about this bull crap.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: While our TV audience hangs out for commercial break, we're
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: here to look at the matchups over the next few days.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Thanks to SeatGeek. Actually, I'll start here. It is not
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: cheap to go to a Dodger game. That's no secret.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: During the regular season, especially in the postseason, there is
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: a good opportunity. If you want to watch the Dodgers
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: over the next few days, it might only be two days.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: to get a ticket for a price that's a little
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: bit lower than usual. I was looking on SeatGeek. There
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: are some jaded Dodgers fans that are like, ah, we're
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: down 2-0. Screw it. These are good games. I'd be
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: all about that. If you love ball, go take advantage
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  Speaker 1: off tickets. It's true, AJ. I mean, you know, we've
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: followed teams sometimes that get so spoiled. Astros fans at times,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Braves fans at times. with success that if they feel
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: like they're down or they don't have a chance, they're
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: not showing up so quickly. Same with the Yankees too.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Yankee fans sometimes feel this way.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, the Dodgers are expensive per
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: inning because most of them show up in the third
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: and leave in the eighth. Isn't that what someone said?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Who said that? PCA said that. Didn't he say that?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: That's the rumor. I mean, I've been to, I played
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs in Dodger stadium and they, they pack it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's true, but. Yeah, if
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: you go off what certain people say, I mean, you're
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: only there for like five innings. So it's really almost
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: double the price of what they pay. I don't know.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: I'm going to Cleveland. Sorry, I'm taking the next day
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: off and I'm going to Cleveland. I'm looking at tickets
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: for the Cleveland game. I want to see a big rig.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, talk about adrenaline dump. The dude went close
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: out the game, 18 pitches, then 94 pitches, I think,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: and punched out everybody.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Like, A.J.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Got an extra punch out on his– Every White Sox
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: that ever played, Canerco, Tomey, Jermaine Dye, everybody got struck
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: out in that game. Gavin Williams has to come back.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: He's going home again, and that place is going to
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: be rocking. Oh, yeah.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's starting to feel real for the Guardians.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: They've had success. They've been in a lot of postseason
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: action lately.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: But they're looking and they're seeing a lane. We knew
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: there was a lane in the American League. Everyone said
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: this all year. Hey, there's a lane for a team
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: to get hot in the playoffs. And right now that
• 49:07
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• 49:32
  Speaker 1: it pick your poison is presented by lids the popular
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  Speaker 1: segment is back if your team is out of it
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Let us help you out. And in this series, a
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: series of segments on teams that are remaining in the postseason,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: we give you some reasons on why you should root
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Guardians. That's the team we're going with today.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Not the Lids hat that Eric Kratz is wearing. It's
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: kind of weird.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I thought it was poison. I thought you were going
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: to pick your poison. I was going to pick the
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: poison of the White Sox. That's why I wore my
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Lids White Sox hat.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Well, the poison for the White Sox actually this year
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: was the Cleveland Guardians since they were able to defeat
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: them in the division and in the postseason. So if
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: you don't have a team in the race, like let's
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: say you're a White Sox fan, AJ.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: White Sox fans, they root for Cleveland. Hate to break
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: it to you. You can try and say that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, someone's rooting for Cleveland, okay? That's not a
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Guardians fan. And perhaps they're looking at a team that
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: hasn't won a World Series title since 1948 or– a
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: player in Jose Ramirez, who's a future Hall of Famer,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: who has had, I would say, as little help as
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: almost any superstar in baseball over the years, and he's
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: been able to keep this team competitive. It's a super
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: low payroll. In fact, it's the lowest payroll, right, at
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the moment, the Cleveland Guardians? So there are a lot
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: of reasons here. If you like the underdog story, AJ,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: this is that team. If you buy that money can't
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: buy happiness or money does buy happiness in MLB, then
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: first off, you're wrong because three of the four teams
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: don't spend much. But if you're into that, the Guardians
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: are also a team to root for. So why else
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: should people root for the Cleveland Guardians at this point?
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: What did Joe Kim Noah say? I've never heard of
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: anybody going to Cleveland to vacation, right? So they deserve it.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Nobody goes to Cleveland on vacation. By the way, it's
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: a great look, the Sherlock Holmes look, the two hats.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: See that?
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: That's a good look, by the way. But they deserve it.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: They haven't won since, what is it, 48.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I just said it.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: 1948. They haven't won since 48. I blank, Scott. Sorry,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: we all make mistakes, okay? We're not all perfect like you. 1948.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: They haven't won since 48. And Steven Vo, two-time manager
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: of the year. He's been there forever. The fans have
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: been through hell. 1997, C95, 97, 2016, where they, like
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Ozzie said, in 2016 against the Cubs. I'm still bitter
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: about the Indians-Guardians for that. and Jason Kipnis, so they
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: deserve it. If you want to root for a team
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: that deserves it probably more than any other team, Cleveland
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Guardians fans have been through a lot of hell, and
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: they deserve to win a World Series at some point.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I can't believe I just said that. Wow, that was amazing.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: I got stunned at how you sold that right there.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: But the biggest thing for me is this is a
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: winning team. You're leaving your team to choose another team
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: that's left– You want to choose a team that's consistently winning.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: As much as you'd be like, well, you know, they
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: don't do this well, they don't do that well, they
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: don't spend a lot of money, blah, blah, blah. This
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: team wins. This team knows how to win. And this
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: is the year for them to push it across the line.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: The other part is if you become a Guardians fan,
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: you get to go to a game in Cleveland in
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: two days. You get to go home and watch your
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: team in what I think is one of the more
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: underrated parks. Maybe AJ hates it because he was in
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: the Central and he played through the heydays of the
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Indians and how good they were.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: But to me– And had to listen to that stupid drum. Gosh,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: I'll never get that drum out of my head. I
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: love the– RIP, I forget the guy's name that played
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: the drum, but how did they not have someone like
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: an honorary drum guy? Gosh, if I had– That and
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: the Pac-Man. They do the stupid Pac-Man thing every time.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I love both.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Oh!
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: It's not Pac-Man, is it? I thought it was the coin.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: It's the coin from Mario. Oh, yeah, Super Mario. Ba-ding, ba-ding.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I love both.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Of those things. I love them so much. Oh, the
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: guy playing. There was times where I just wanted to
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: throw a baseball. Because as soon as the guy would
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: get in scoring position, you just... And this was back
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: when there was like 42 people in the stands. And
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: you're just here.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Boom, boom, boom, boom.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Boom, boom, boom, boom. And you're like... Dude, they're not
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: going to score. Can we just stop this, please? I mean,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: most of the time, the Indians' guardians are pretty good.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: But there were years where they weren't so good. And
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: for me, it was like, oh, my gosh, I got
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: to hear that drum for the next three days. Please
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: make it stop.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: That means it worked.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I know. It did work. It did.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: It did.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. You're inspiring many young drummers out there to
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: show up to the ballpark and just drum their life away.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: How do they not have, like, an honorary drum guy
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: every day sit up there and just boo, boo, boo, boo, boo,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: boo for hours upon hours? Got to be on a
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: deep rhythm. Sometimes I don't think there was a rhythm.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Just get two kids and just beat the drum all
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: day long.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Talk to me, AJ.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: When we just showed that, did you see the... The
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: thing we just showed, the guy, we just showed shaking
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: hands and the guy who put the White Sox to sleep,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez. A nicer, humbler, better player that deserves to
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: win a championship. If you're looking for the one guy,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: maybe Christian Yelich would be the other one. In all
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: these playoffs, that has not won a World Series and
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: has done nothing but the right thing his entire career.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: How can you not want Jose Ramirez to win a championship?
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we're just going pure Cleveland love fest,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: which we are because Lid sent us this really red
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: hat that I have on, you have to root for
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez. Do you not?
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, he plays hurt. And AJ, he plays the game
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: more than the right way. He's looked at as one
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: of the best base runners, one of the smartest baseball minds.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: How about the game one slide back into the bag?
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: And how many guys can execute a unique slide back
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: into the bag like that? Is there a name for
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: that kind of slide? Was it the hook or whatever?
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: It's good. That was just a survival slide. Just a
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: survival slide. Because it was bad base running to round
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: too far.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he got back.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: How many dudes get back that way?
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: No.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Not many. And stick the bag, right? They thought he
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: was off the bag for a moment.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: They thought he was off? I'm like, as William Contreras
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: did yesterday.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Well, the box score says he was safe.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: And by the way, you know what else? By the way,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: you know what else? When he goes, I love Cleveland.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: They signed me. They drafted or they developed me. They
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: signed me to an extension. And he's like, I love Cleveland.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, those are the people you want representing your organization.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Are they not?
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: And by the way, he's not a big human being.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: He's not a big guy at all. He's like tiny.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: There's one, there's been in my, in my, I've been
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: married to my wife for a long time. There's been
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: two people that she's ever asked for a picture for.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: And one of them is Jose Ramirez.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: That's respect.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: And she knows, she loves that guy. She loves that guy, man.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: That's respect.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: He's not an intimidating presence, but he is. If you
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: watch the way that he plays, pick your poison presented
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  Speaker 1: and exclusions do apply. And if we convinced you, great.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: If we did not, we'll try tomorrow with a different team.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Let's slap a lot to hit with two minutes to go.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Foul Territory postgame show live after NLCS game three. We're
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: taking one night off if that's okay. If not, maybe
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: AJ will do a live reaction in bed after the
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: ALCS game two matchup. But NLCS game three is when
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: we'll be back at night. We'll do a Wednesday nighter.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: We're going to do a Thursday nighter. And then we'll
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: see from there. So catch us late night on the
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: FT YouTube channel. Hey, I just saw this. Our guest list.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: For tomorrow's show, Wednesday's show, is Tyler Phillips and Joey
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Votto is joining us. Did you guys see the tweet
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: about the batting cage that he put out there, about
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: the Milwaukee batting cage? He was kind of smashing that.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: A lot of hot takes from Joey lately. He wants
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: to see an Eli De La Cruz for, I'm going
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: to forget who it was. Oh, Jose de Paula trade.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: He thinks that AJ would hit 150 if he was
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: playing in the sport right now. So I'm looking forward
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: to that debate.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with hitting 150, okay? You can still
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: have a big heart and love everybody if you hit 150, okay?
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: That's true. I agree.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: You can still be on FT. That's good.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: You can be on FT. Is he really coming on tomorrow?
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: I think so. Why?
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I just didn't think he would come back on.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I'm happy that he's coming back. We have a lot
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: to talk about him and I.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he come back on? He's a media member now.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: This is what he does. He goes on shows and
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: he talks.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I know, but there was some tension last time.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Good. We like tension. He likes tension.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Does he?
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: If you say so, Scott, I'm going to trust you
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: on this one.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I want a good debate. By the way, support. Is
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: this a great game or what? Tim and Jeff Kirkjian.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Good show. Lots of shows on the FG network with
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: good postseason coverage.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Good fellas.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Good guys. Good fellas.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Good fellas right down the road too.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Remember? That's right. Remember when we used to do that?
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: We had that bit for a little bit. Like, oh,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: that guy, he's good fella. You guys remember that?
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Good guy.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: He's a good guy.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Good guy.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Terrible ball player.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Good guy.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Hey, sometimes that's more important.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Good guy.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Sometimes that's more important. Grads, tell them. You'll keep guys
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: around if they're good guys. Believe me. Sometimes it happens.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't sound like.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: On that topic.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll point this out, AJ. So, obviously, you guys
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: were catchers. the Cleveland guardians have two catchers who were
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: terrible hitters at one point in their career. And they've
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: kind of figured it out at least much better than
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: they used to be. Austin Hedges had a good year.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Patrick Bailey hit way better when he went over to Cleveland.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: And it does make you start to think like, Whoa,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's, he's doing the classic, like, Hey,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: if you do make contact, let's just do a little
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: pulled fly ball, like the very modern style here. But
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: for him, like that, that is the move AJ. Cause
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: he's not making a lot of contact consistently. So if
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: you're going to like, let's, Make sure it rides.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Go deep 425 feet to center field. Sure, that works.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: That plays in every stadium. Not the one that he
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: got traded from. Not the one where he was hitting
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: three homers a year. So I'll put it this way.
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  Speaker 4: If you're considered a bad offensive player, it is not
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: helping you to go to San Francisco. Especially if you're like,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: I'm going to hit dingers. If you hit singles, it's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: a good place to hit. Best line I heard all
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: year from a manager coach.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: He goes, Stephen Vogt. We're meeting with Stephen Vogt before
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: one of the Fox games. And he goes, you know
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: who just thinks they should hit a home run every time?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Austin Hedges. Every time. He can't believe that he makes outs.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: And we all look at each other like, he's like
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: a career 190 hitter. He's like, I know. But every
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: time he makes an out, he can't believe that he
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: didn't hit a home run on the pitch. He's like,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: that's confidence. And I'm like, you know what? You're right.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: That's my golf game to a tee. Every single ball
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: I stand over is going pin high. It might just
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: spray sprayed every way.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Confidence is better than lack of confidence. And Austin Hedges
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: is still doing it. And they try to wrap him
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: up once the year ends, if they don't have them
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. So they're loving what he's bringing.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: To the table. You can fake a lot in a
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: lot of positions in life. You can fake it. And
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: if you just say it with your chest. It might
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: be the dumbest thing someone's ever heard, but they're like, oh, man,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: maybe he's got a point. He's saying it like with confidence.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's got a point.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: That's right. And all of a sudden the pitcher's like, wait,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: is this guy good? And then he has a year
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: True.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: He had a great year. Austin Hedges had a hell
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: of a year. Look at his numbers.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: He really did.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: One of the reasons they could afford to move Bo Naylor.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: That's right. And Bailey's second half was way better. Look
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: at the numbers. Way, way, way better.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: By the way, Bo Nailer's on the Brewers. I had
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: no idea. Bo Nailer's on the Brewers. I had no idea.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: He's there. He's like their emergency catcher in case something happens.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: He's there just in case. He's there, Eric Kratz. That'll
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: be the new position. Not on the roster, but cheering
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: his face off.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: What position are you, Kratz? See you Wednesday.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kratz.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Hey, swing big on your next same game parlay. It's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: running all playoffs long. So go check your Red MGM app.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: See if you've got an SGP boost token for tonight
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: to swing for a bigger payout. And if you want
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: to tell anything we're doing, good luck to you. Gambling
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: problem or concern, there's always help. 1-800-GAMBLER.