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Big Stu-ey: Turning L.A. (w/ Eric Morris) · Stugotz and Company

• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Eric Morris, head coach of Oklahoma State, going to join
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: us here in about 10 minutes. And we'll get to
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Ichiro here in just a second. There's a funny story
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: involving him, an unbelievable story involving him. Taylor, the Falcons
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: play Carolina this weekend, and I just saw some breaking
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: news here. Cooper Rush will start again as the Falcons quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out on that game. I don't need to
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  Speaker 2: do the Cooper Rush experience for a second week in
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: a row. Somebody just text me what happens in that
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  Speaker 2: Panthers-Falcons game.
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  Speaker 1: But if you don't watch the game, you're missing out
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  Speaker 1: on the Carolina experience as well.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a fun experience.
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  Speaker 2: I could live without it.
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  Speaker 3: Could you?
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I need a red zone of just when Carolina has
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: the ball. If NFL Network could work on that.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Put it on the poll. Would you like a red
• 1:07
  Speaker 3: zone just for the Carolina Panthers?
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  Speaker 1: But you will not watch that game because Cooper Rush,
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  Speaker 1: Penix isn't ready yet, Tua is hurt, and you said
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  Speaker 1: you will not watch Cooper Rush play quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: No, I just know what's going to happen when you
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: watch Cooper Rush. He's going to finish like 53% completion percentage.
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  Speaker 2: The offense is going to look dreadful. Cooper Rush has
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  Speaker 2: this rare ability to make an offense with Kyle Pitts,
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  Speaker 2: Drake London, and Bijan Robinson. borderline unwatchable.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But some of that could be Kyle Pitts's fault. I mean,
• 1:38
  Speaker 3: it's always Kyle Pitts's fault. Put it on the poll.
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: Is it always Kyle Pitts's fault?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Mikey, I only bring up, uh, I only bring
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  Speaker 1: this up because, uh, of a, of an amazing record.
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  Speaker 1: The jets have said here, Micah Fitzpatrick is out for
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  Speaker 1: the jets. I like the jets to win this weekend. Regardless,
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  Speaker 1: he wants me to stop saying that, uh, they're taking
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  Speaker 1: on the green Bay Packers. Um, Do you realize the
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  Speaker 1: interception drought that the Jets are going through right now?
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  Speaker 1: And do you realize just how long it's been and
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  Speaker 1: how many passes it's been since they have lucked into
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  Speaker 1: an interception?
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  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: It's disgusting. It's like it's it's such. futility in a
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  Speaker 5: such a key aspect of the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Turnovers matter. I mean, the bears entire defense is built
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  Speaker 6: on turnovers. They're not going to stop anybody, but every
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  Speaker 6: once in a while, we're going to take the ball
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  Speaker 6: away and then we're going to score and the jets
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  Speaker 6: can't even fall into an interception.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: They can't even accidentally have a quarterback. Oops. Didn't see him.
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  Speaker 6: And they wear green on green field and they can't
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  Speaker 6: have somebody accidentally.
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  Speaker 5: Throw them the ball. And it's not going to happen
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  Speaker 5: again this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's been like 18 consecutive games, 371 pass
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  Speaker 1: attempts or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor, you played football at North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you're going to luck into an interception over an
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  Speaker 1: 18-game span, right?
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  Speaker 3: Anyone will.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this stretch is borderline impossible. And trust me, I
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  Speaker 2: want to defend the Jets here. I was watching that
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  Speaker 2: Week 1 game against Tennessee, rooting for a Jets interception.
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  Speaker 2: To the Jets' credit, just in Week 1, Cam Ward
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  Speaker 2: didn't really put the ball in too many bad spots
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  Speaker 2: for as bad as Cam Ward looked. Like when you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at the schedule, you're like, it's going to take
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  Speaker 2: a very bad quarterback to throw this interception. And it
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: felt like Cam Ward was that guy. And Cam Ward
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  Speaker 2: just doesn't really throw high risk passes. It didn't at
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  Speaker 2: least seem that way that game.
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  Speaker 7: Question for you. Is there more pressure on the Jets
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  Speaker 7: secondary to get an interception or on every opposing quarterback
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  Speaker 7: not to be the guy that finally breaks the streak?
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  Speaker 3: That is a great question. Who is it this weekend?
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Love? Jordan Love.
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  Speaker 5: Future Jet Jordan Love.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So he's feeling the heat like, hey, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be the guy. I don't want to throw an
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  Speaker 1: interception against that team.
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  Speaker 3: No one does. And the Jets are so desperate. They're secondary.
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  Speaker 3: Who is more desperate? It's a great question by you.
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  Speaker 2: Mikey, this is like in baseball. When any time a
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: batter is close to a home run record, like when
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  Speaker 2: Barry Bonds was at like 755 home runs. Right. And
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  Speaker 2: teams are like, I don't want to be the one
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  Speaker 2: who gives up the home run to him and be
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  Speaker 2: in the history.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to watch that video forever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like.
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  Speaker 2: I am just going to intentionally walk Barry Bonds four times,
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  Speaker 2: and then next game, it's somebody else's responsibility. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's what quarterbacks are now doing to the Jets at
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  Speaker 2: this point.
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  Speaker 1: Let's try to identify who the quarterback is that's going
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  Speaker 1: to throw the interception against the Jets. Because I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's going to be Jordan Love, and I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at the schedule.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they have Jared Goff after that.
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  Speaker 1: Then it's Caleb Williams, and then they get to Deshaun
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  Speaker 1: Watson or Shador Sanders.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to be it, right? The Browns?
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  Speaker 4: What will that be?
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  Speaker 7: Game 22?
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  Speaker 3: Without an interception?
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  Speaker 5: Game 21?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and you might be saying to yourselves, well, no.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, come on. It could be anyone. No luck
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  Speaker 3: into an interception. They haven't done it in 18 games.
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  Speaker 2: I could talk myself into it being Caleb Williams because
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, there's a couple of passes Caleb Williams throws
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  Speaker 2: every game where it's like, man, that was a high-risk throw.
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  Speaker 2: Normally he completes them, but on the off chance it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Caleb's not going into that game afraid of the Jets secondary.
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  Speaker 2: I think Jared Goff, in the back of Jared Goff's mind,
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  Speaker 2: is like, I can't throw an interception.
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  Speaker 3: He's saying, I don't want to be the guy. Caleb
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  Speaker 3: Williams is like, I don't care if I'm the guy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care if I'm that guy. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: throw for 500 yards with Ben Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I might throw a pick, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: throw five touchdowns. And you're right, 500 plus yards. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't care if they intercepted me. Who's going to
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  Speaker 1: make fun of me? I'm the greatest quarterback in the game.
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  Speaker 1: You guys hate that I say that. You hate that
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  Speaker 1: I'm already anointed Caleb Williams, who hasn't done anything.
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  Speaker 3: As the greatest quarterback we've ever seen. Mikey, I can
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  Speaker 3: tell you hate it. You do.
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  Speaker 7: I only hate it until you're wrong.
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  Speaker 3: So far, so good.
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  Speaker 5: So far in one game, you're kind of right.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: And I hate that. I hate you being right.
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  Speaker 7: It's really what I hate.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you.
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay did a press conference yesterday. I think he
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: was indoors. He was wearing sunglasses. They were fighter pilot sunglasses.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: The guy thinks he's Maverick and Top Gun. I imagine
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: him riding out of SoFi Stadium on a motorcycle with
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: a leather jacket on after every single game because he
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  Speaker 1: thinks he's going to flight school or something.
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  Speaker 3: Kenny Loggins is playing. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He did say, Australia, never again. We're never playing there again.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, come on, man. Get over it and move on. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: Todd in accounting, he went out there and he told you, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you can fly in, hop off the bird, play a
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  Speaker 1: football game, hop back on the bird and go home.
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  Speaker 3: And you can't. So Todd is fired. McVay was wrong.
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  Speaker 3: And it's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's wrong, depending on your vantage point, for
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  Speaker 1: the NFL to send teams that far away for the
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  Speaker 1: opening game of the season. But I don't hear, now
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  Speaker 1: they won the game, anyone on San Francisco complaining. The
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  Speaker 1: only person who's complained about this before and after is
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  Speaker 1: Sean McVay, as if he's too good and they're too
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  Speaker 1: good to be sent to Australia to play a game.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't have any thoughts on them going to Australia,
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  Speaker 2: but I do have thoughts on the sunglasses that Sean
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  Speaker 2: McVay was wearing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, in.
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  Speaker 2: Spider-Man, when the symbiote takes over and he becomes Venom,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just like Spider-Man becomes Venom.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if you say so.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I know that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I know that.
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  Speaker 4: Spidey.
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  Speaker 2: Mikey, when I watch Sean McVay, it's like an L.A.
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  Speaker 2: symbiote came and took over Sean McVay, and now Sean
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  Speaker 2: McVay is just becoming L.A. Because when you look at
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  Speaker 2: Sean McVay, it's like, this dude wants to be Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles so bad. Like, he'll go up to the press
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  Speaker 2: conference with, like, a smoothie in his hand and sunglasses.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, L.V.A. That's a bad joke, but funny.
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  Speaker 2: He is.
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  Speaker 3: He's L.A. Listen, it happens. It happens to people. I
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  Speaker 3: saw it right in front of my eyes. It happened
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  Speaker 3: to George Zidano.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's a perfect example of the LA symbiote where
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, now he's drinking kale smoothies from Air
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: One and telling everybody about his new yoga class.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, the last meal I had with Sedano before he
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: moved to LA was at an ale house.
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  Speaker 3: We were eating wings. We were eating burgers. We were
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: eating grease. And then I went to see him in L.A.,
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: and you're right, kale smoothies.
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  Speaker 2: The symbiote took over.
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  Speaker 3: And he had sunglasses on. It's on. It was on.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you make of McVay saying, hey, never again, Australia?
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  Speaker 1: And if the NFL wants to send.
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  Speaker 3: Them there again, they will. What is McVay going to
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  Speaker 3: do about it?
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  Speaker 1: You can't say no. I just don't like him complaining
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  Speaker 1: about it after the fact. I know he did some
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: on the front end, but after the fact, as you're
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: getting ready for your next game against the Giants, and
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: you're off until Monday, by the way, He's had plenty
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: of time for his players to get rested up and
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: get right. They play on Monday night against the Giants.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: I just don't like him complaining after the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the trip to Australia was a hassle. He did have
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: to couch it.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, great atmosphere. The fans were great. I'm just not
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: going there again.
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  Speaker 2: This feels like the excuse before the excuse. Like Sean
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: McVay in the back of his mind is like, we
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: might lose the, he saw how good Jackson Dart looked.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: And he's like, man, if Jackson performs like that again
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  Speaker 2: in week two, there's a good chance he shreds our
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: defense the way Brock Purdy did. So he's just kind
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  Speaker 2: of setting up the table. He's setting the table and
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  Speaker 2: being like, hey, when we lose the Giants, remember guys,
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  Speaker 2: we had to go all the way to Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. If they have a bad season, it won't be
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  Speaker 3: McVay's fault. It will be Melbourne's fault.
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  Speaker 1: And if they have a good season, he overcame Melbourne
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: because he's such a great coach.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he just put himself in such a great situation.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: I love him now.
• 9:35
  Speaker 7: He's doing the thing when he knows he's going to
• 9:37
  Speaker 7: call out sick. And like the last time he sees it.
• 9:40
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: No, I'm OK.
• 9:41
  Speaker 5: Just a little tickle in the back of my throat.
• 9:43
  Speaker 5: I'm sure I'll pay.
• 9:44
  Speaker 7: And then, you know, yeah, you keep building it up
• 9:47
  Speaker 7: and then eventually you call out sick and you go
• 9:49
  Speaker 7: to six flags.
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: So right now, yes, he's feeling a tickle in his throat.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: He's not certain if he's sick yet. If he loses
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: to the Giants, he's got one hundred and ten. got
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: to go to the hospital. And if he wins, he'll
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: feel fine. He'll feel great. He'll feel healthy. And he'll
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: never talk about Australia again. And he'll be happy to
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: go back there. I mean, it's ridiculous.
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: What did you do when you cut school? Where'd you go?
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: Six Flags?
• 10:16
  Speaker 5: Sure, Six Flags, great adventure. I wasn't going to Action Park.
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: That's where I went. My brothers weren't taking me to
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: Action Park. Yes, it was a park where none of
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: the rides worked, and I loved it.
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• 10:30
  Speaker 1: you didn't go to Action Park.
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  Speaker 1: Eric Morris is the head coach of the Oklahoma State Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: They pulled off a massive upset last week against Oregon,
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  Speaker 1: but he's on to next week, I am certain. Before
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: we get to the upcoming week, was that the best
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: that football has ever made you feel from a coaching standpoint,
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: winning that game, coach?
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  Speaker 3: It was so exciting to watch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been a part of some good ones. Extra rewarding,
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  Speaker 4: I think, just because how poorly we played week one,
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: you know, and such a buildup this offseason and With
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: the new regime here, you know, brought a lot of
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: good players in here and fell flat on our face
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: week one and terrible performance. So I think after that
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: and then going through that week and watching our kids
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  Speaker 4: prepare made it, you know, that much more rewarding. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, such a surreal experience for me, you know,
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: for my first game here at Boone Pickens Stadium.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: Coach, when you lose that week one game to Tulsa,
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: how do you stop the doubt from coming into your building?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, easier said than done. I think just leaning into
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: old experiences, right? Took over when I was a young
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: buck at Incarnate Word. We went 0-2 and then were
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: able to rebound and win the conference championship that year.
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: Same thing at North Texas, you know, got beat by
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: Cal pretty good. And then we went to Florida International
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  Speaker 4: FIU and had one of the worst performances that I'd
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  Speaker 4: ever seen and rebounded after that. So I think just
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: leaning into those things and And really being able to
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: simplify things in the building, you know, have a really simple,
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  Speaker 4: solid message to your coaches and players. Because we had
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: an execution problem that first. It wasn't a schematical thing.
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: It wasn't. I mean, there's a bunch of things you
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: could have pointed to. But at the end of the day,
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: we didn't block and tackle the two most simple things
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: in football, right? And so we simplified it. Kids worked hard. And,
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: you know, it was fun to see them celebrate after
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: that win.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Sometimes a team can surprise their coach. Were you surprised
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: at how well your team played against Oregon?
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: You know, I was surprised at just the physical dominance
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: that we had. Not just, you know, I think that
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: was obvious to see up front on the offense and
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: defensive line, but just the perimeter, too. You know, we
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: were phenomenal. I thought, you know, we played faster, executed
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  Speaker 4: a high level, and were able to put together really,
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  Speaker 4: you know, four really good quarters of football. The only thing,
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: you know, really, um, that I didn't like is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think we had eight red zone chances and only
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: scored four touchdowns. So, I mean, we got to capitalize
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: once we get down there in the red area a
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: little bit better and not settle for field goals.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Did you let him know about it? Like you didn't
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: let him get too high right after that victory. You
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: can't do that, right? You got Murray state coming up.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, we got good ball, bad ball every week. Um,
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: you know, challenged them in every fashion, you know, after
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: that loss to Tulsa. And I think, you know, um,
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: To see them respond that way. And then I thought
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: it was really good, too, just to be able to
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: go in and point out, you know, how it could
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: have been even better. Right. And, you know, it could
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: have been a more of a dominant performance and a
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: dominant win if we clean up a couple of things
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: here and there.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Coach, I loved your team last year at North Texas
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: and I loved your quarterback, Drew Messamaker, who follows you
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: to Oklahoma State. When you took the Oklahoma State job,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: what was that recruiting process like? It had to be like,
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: come on, come on, Drew. Let's keep the band together.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: It's just interesting, you know, and Drew's never been recruited, right?
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: And he's a guy that out of high school, you know,
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: didn't even play. And so, you know, he was so
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: thankful to have that opportunity that we did give him.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: But I think everybody wants to be wanted, right? And then,
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: you know, you're this zero-star recruit. have no attention coming
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: to high school. And all of a sudden the blue
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: bloods are calling you with a lot of dollar signs
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: behind it, right? A lot of zeros. Yes. And, but
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you know, the relationship
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: we built not only with him, but with his mother
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: as well. I mean, she was really involved in the process,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: you know, of him coming here and our last conversation
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: we had before he decided to commit and come here.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: I ended the phone call with, Hey, don't break my heart.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: And I just hung up as fast as I could.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: Didn't let him respond.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow. That is a great line. Yes.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: He still tells that story to this day, but, um,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: but yeah, there was some psychological warfare behind that statement.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Don't break my heart. And then you just hung up.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: You didn't give him a chance to respond. Did you
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: speak to him after? And were they trying to talk
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: to you with thinking you were still on the phone?
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, No, he called that night. Him and his
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: mom were around a campfire back at home in Austin
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: and I think had some time to process. It wasn't
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: just that, but I do think... That was a good
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: last thought for me to put in this. Guilt.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Coach, you've had great success at smaller schools. You mentioned
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Incarnate Word. We talked about North Texas. What was that
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: jump like to Oklahoma State where now you get to
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: that building and you're like looking around and like, man,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: the resources here are a hundred times what I've had
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: in the past.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Like right now you're sitting on some sort of throne.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: That chair is amazing.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: The whole background is amazing. They didn't have that at
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: other stops that you were on. I mean, what is
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: it like?
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: I think nowadays, you know, everybody gets fixated with the
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: amount of money that you have to pay your players,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: which is a huge deal. Right. Obviously. And I hear
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: a bunch of coaches that complain week in, week out
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: about things they don't have. Right. And I told, you know,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: when I was interviewing for this job with Chad Weiberg,
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I said, listen, like, that's not me. That's not my personality.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: The places I've been, you know, Incarnate word in North Texas,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: like we didn't have much. And I've never complained about
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: things I didn't have. Try to maximize what we do have.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Talk about the positives. And then be able to go
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: and better the place, right? And so that doesn't mean
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: I don't want to raise more money. And so trying
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: to form great relationships now to be able to get,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: you know, our NIL bucket to top tier in this
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: league is something that we're, we have some lofty goals
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: of being able to raise more money and be able
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: to build roster to sustain success for a long time.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And so, yeah, I mean, it's been super cool. But
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: but obviously, boom pickings in the stadium and, you know,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: the indoor and the locker room and the spaces that
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: we have are top notch here.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Are you OK with where college football is at just
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: in terms of transfer portal, the players getting paid? It's
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: become more difficult to coach, I think, because your players
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: are constantly leaving.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: The rosters are constantly changing. Do you like today's college football?
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been a lot made of how many new
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: players we have, you know, 90 something players, which is
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: a lot, but I'm actually used to it. You know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I think we had 66 new players the first year
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: at North Texas. The second year we had 71. It's
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: almost normal to me. We brought 22 guys with us. So,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: you know, if you go 90 minus 20, I mean,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: you're around what I consider normal. And so I think
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: everything's just so expedited nowadays and, you know, you're trying
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: to build relationships and, and do those things really fast.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: So I think being super intentional, realizing every team's going
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: to be a new team, not taking that for granted.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I think we have to be great teachers. You know, my,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: my parent, my father was, was a English teacher. And
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: so I've been around teachers my whole entire life. And
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I think that's what coaches do at, at its core.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: And so, you know, I'm really proud of the way that,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: that our coaches have kind of brought this group together.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Coach, was it a challenge following Mike Gundy, who was
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State for 21 years? I know his tenure
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: didn't end the best way there, but in Stillwater, he's
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: a legend around there.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all they know.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, something that I've embraced, right? And I
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: got to see that firsthand. You know, I played against
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Coach Gundy as a player when he was coaching here
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: and I was able to coach against him a number
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: of times, right? And so just have the utmost respect
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: for Mike and what he was able to build here
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: and To be able to sustain it for so long
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: was something that that was so cool for me to see.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: And then obviously, you know, I remember Spike Dykes, old
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: legendary Texas Tech head coach, told me long ago that
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: you're going to lose 10 percent of your supporters every
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: single year as a college head coach, no matter if
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: you win or lose. And it's just part of the gig. Right.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: And so that's a quote that's always stuck in my
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: head and realizing. But I think people in Stillwater were
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: ready for something new, and they've embraced us with open arms,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: and we have a lot of great energy. And I
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: think the home field advantage can be something huge for
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: us during the course of this year. And starting it
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: off with a bang and getting them excited week one,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: you know, with the big win over Oregon, I think
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: can make this place really dangerous this year.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You don't become a college football coach, I don't think,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: without being a big college football fan. So you know
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the history of the sport. If I told you, I
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: don't know, 10 years ago, that 10 years from now,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Indiana would be on top of the sport, you would
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: have told me what?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: You're absolutely crazy. Only if Bob Knight was still alive
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: and started coaching.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Football, right? But it's a good thing from this standpoint, right, Coach?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Like, Indiana doing it proves that anybody can do it, correct?
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: The parody is awesome. Right. And I think that's what
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: the NFL has done so good for so long. Right.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: And I think you'll see us adopt a lot more
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: of the NFL rules. And as we get this thing
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: figured out and hopefully, you know, get some legislation done,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: which looks like it's going to happen in the near future.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I think that's what makes it fun. It keeps it interesting.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: It keeps the fans engaged right now. Will it sustain?
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: You know, I think it's going to be hard to
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: sustain for some of the smaller schools. And will you
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: see a break off? I mean, I think that'll happen
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: here probably in the next five years with the P4 schools.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: And just because, you know, I just think it is
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: so hard. I've been at those schools, right? And to
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: be able to retain your players year in, year out
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: with the financial research you have, like you just can't
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: do it. And so I do think that it is
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: healthy right now. Obviously, it's so popular and the viewership
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: shows that. But I do think, you know, there are
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: some major changes coming down the pipeline.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Coach, you played college football at Texas Tech. If I
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: was doing a Mount Rushmore of my favorite college football
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: moments in my lifetime, the Michael Crabtree touchdown against Texas,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: what was it like playing on some of those teams
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: with Mike Leach and Graham Harrell and that explosive offense,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: which was kind of revolutionary for the time?
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just so thankful for the opportunity that Mike gave
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: me to play, right? From a really small town, undersized kid,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Wes Welker kind of paved the way for us guys
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: at Texas Tech you know Danny Amendola and I were
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: the next guys that were in that lineage um but
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: um yeah it was just uh such an incredible experience
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: for me um Lubbock's right down the street from from
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: my hometown so for my family to be able to
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: watch that and to experience it and then um just
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: the coaches I was able to play under I mean
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: my position coach is when I was a player were
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Dana horse and Sonny Dykes and Lincoln Riley. Right. So
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I had those three men pouring into me is one
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: of the big reasons I wanted to become a coach. Right.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: I was just around them and I was a gym
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: rat and I wanted to, to have all this knowledge
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: that they were able to give me. And so, uh,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: just super thankful for that situation. Um, and then Mike
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: gives me my first full-time job at Washington state. Um,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: And so really, you know, I owe him every opportunity
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I've been blessed with in this great sport of college football.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: How'd you feel about the nickname, The Elf?
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Didn't love it at first. It was pretty organic how
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: it happened.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Of course, yes.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Mike making it happen in a team meeting and telling
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: me I was so small, only, only small magical creatures
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: could make a play like this. And we'll call him, he'll,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: he'll be known as the elf from now on. But
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: the cool that, you know, he put, so after everybody
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: started calling me the elf, um, it caught on. And then, uh,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: that Thursday, um, which I think we're number two in
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: the country at this time. Um, I had a, a
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: green uniform in my, uh, in my locker so green
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: tights green shorts green jersey and taped elf ears on
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: the outside of my helmet and i went to his
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: office and i had all the stuff with me i'm
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: like mike like this is literally like what are we
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: doing right now like i'm not wearing this for practice
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: and he looked at me and he's like if you
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: want to play this week you're gonna wear that And
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: so for the next four weeks, every Thursday, you know,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: we'd be watching film. It's serious being prepared, getting prepared,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: you know, for Oklahoma. If we win, we're going to
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: the national championship. There I am running around with this
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: little green outfit on and everybody just coaching like this
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: is normal.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Mike Leach was a, he was a friend of mine.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: He was on with me and Leviton all the time.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I love him.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: National treasure, wasn't it?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, a national treasure. Great sense of humor, dry sense
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: of humor, but funny. You had to understand him, but
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: he was so intelligent and so ahead of his time,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: wasn't he, Coach?
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and too, like, I tell people this story all
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: the time. When we first got to Washington State, we
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: were installing the offense, and this was when he was
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: writing the book on Geronimo, and so I sat right
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: next to Mike in meetings and I had to run
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: the computer. And so I show up one day and
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: this man, you know, who nobody knew who he was,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: was sitting in my chair. And so I'm just sitting
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: there and Mike's like, yeah, go sit somewhere else. And
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: so this is one of the world's leading experts on
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Geronimo that's going to spend three weeks with us while
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: he's writing a book. So we're installing. Mike had two
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: legal pads, only wrote on legal pads. He's a lawyer
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: by trade. One said Geronimo at the top, one said football.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: That's it, not just football.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: And so we'd be in there installing and then, you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: something would spark a conversation up. He'd slide the Geronimo
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: thing over and he'd just be talking to this guy.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: And everybody's just sitting there like, I mean, wasting all
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: of our time as they're talking about. So we made
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: a pack as a staff because we wasted so much
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: time that spring listening to these stories that we would
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: never read the Geronimo book. So that's, if I see it,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: I won't look at it. I have a bunch of
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Mike's literature in my office. Geronimo is not, whatever that
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: book is, is not in my office.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: But knowing him the way you do, that's why we
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: like to have him on so much because he would
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: just take the conversation anywhere and was comfortable doing so.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Yes. You had no clue, but yeah, super intelligent, you know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: super bright and just had so much what I called
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: useless information. Like there were so many subjects that he
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: had so much information on. You're like, we'd fact check
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: him all the time. Like there ain't no way he
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: knows what he's talking about. Sure enough.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: He was right.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: He was right. We'll get you out of here in
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: a second.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think people know this, Uh, you coach Patrick
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Mahomes when he was at Texas tech. Uh, did you,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: was it possible to see, to envision that he would
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: turn into this? I know you probably thought he was
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: going to be good, but did you think he would
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: be like all time?
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Great. Good. No, I mean, just the one thing that
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: was different about Patrick. And I think we see all the,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: like we made this highlight clip of all these no
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: look passes, you know, left-handed passes. I mean, the things
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: he didn't practice were just, you know, it puts you
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: in all, all the time. Um, But the one thing
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: that people just don't talk about in general because it
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: is kind of backyard football and he makes all these
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: crazy plays is like how intelligent Patrick actually is. And
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I remember Andy Reid coming in and did a board
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: session with him. So, you know, they send him the playbook,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: let him study it for a week, and they're going
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: to come in and quiz him on the board. And
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: me and Coach Kingsbury were sitting in Coach Kingsbury's office
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: and Andy walks out after they did this board session.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: And Andy said, hey, I've been doing this for 30 years.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: That's the best session like I've ever been around. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: so it just speaks volume just about just how smart
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Patrick is and how much time he puts into it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: So you always saw the work ethic. So, I mean,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: do you know he's going to, you know, win all
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: these MVPs and Super Bowls? It's hard to do that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: You need a team around you. You need a great
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: play caller like Andy Reid. Like, I mean, he got
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: into the perfect situation. You got to sit for a year.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: So no, didn't know. But does it surprise me? Absolutely not.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I know these guys and well, I like to think
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I know myself.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: We are Cowboy fans now, okay?
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: We love you. We love this team. We want to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: see continued success. In fact, I'm thinking we come out
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: to Stillwater perhaps, you know, come to a game.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Come on, baby. We'd love to have you. Sit up
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: in my suite.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: We got a bunch of– hope you like uh banquet
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: beers yellow bellies we call them here in oklahoma and
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: um done but you guys are more than welcome anytime
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: you want to.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Come all right uh can we do a show from
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the uh from the stadium yes we could do.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: That a thousand a thousand percent oh my god we're in.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: All right i just want to sit in that chair
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: yeah i just want and can i use that chair
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: in that background if you don't mind please.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: It's not as cool on the other side of the
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: camera there's a bunch of stuff going on but the
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: the production is is uh It's really nice.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: All right, Coach.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Halloween here? I mean, it looks like Halloween, right?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, it does.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: We'll put some ghosts and some pumpkins back there.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: It looks like the coolest house on the block for Halloween. Yes,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: that's what it looks like.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: All right, it's a date, Coach. We will look at
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the schedule. We'll figure out a game. We'll make a
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: trip to Stillwater. We're looking forward to it. Congratulations on
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the big win. Continued success. Good luck this weekend. Thank
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you for doing this, Coach.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys. Have a great weekend.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: All right, you too.