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JIM JONES: HOW THE WORLD’S DEADLIEST CULT LEADER ROSE TO POWER 💀 · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: talking about today, nay, the cult that we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: today is Jim Jones and the People's Now, I know
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  Speaker 1: the beginning. James Warren Jones, otherwise known as Jim Jones,
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  Speaker 1: was born in Crete, Indiana on May 13th, 1931. And
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  Speaker 1: James' father, James Thurman Jones, was a disabled World War
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  Speaker 1: I veteran. And his mother, Lynetta Putman, was an extremely
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  Speaker 1: spiritual person who would heavily influence Jim Jones for his
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  Speaker 1: entire life. And Jones' childhood was extremely rough, to say
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  Speaker 1: the least. Because his father was disabled, he couldn't work
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  Speaker 1: a regular job, meaning the family often relied on Jim
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  Speaker 1: Jones to do odd jobs to help keep the family afloat.
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  Speaker 1: And Jones' father was specifically affected by chemical warfare in
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  Speaker 1: World War I during an invasion where they used mustard gas,
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  Speaker 1: and his lungs were completely destroyed by it. Furthermore, his mother, Lynetta,
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  Speaker 1: didn't work at all, so all the pressure of income,
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  Speaker 1: quite literally, was put upon Jim Jones. So his name
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  Speaker 1: is James, but I'm gonna call him Jim this whole time, okay?
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  Speaker 1: When I refer to Jim Jones, I'm just gonna call
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  Speaker 1: him Jim. All right, okay. So when Jim was born,
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  Speaker 1: him and his family moved to a shack outside of Lynn, Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: And they had to do that due to the financial
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  Speaker 1: pressure of the Great Depression. And Lynn was only about
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  Speaker 1: five miles west of Crete, and the Jones family did
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  Speaker 1: also have family there. But while in Lynn, the family
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  Speaker 1: would go through even harder times. For instance, the home
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  Speaker 1: that they lived in didn't have plumbing or electricity. And
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  Speaker 1: like I said before, his father couldn't get a job,
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  Speaker 1: so he heavily relied on family members for financial support.
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  Speaker 1: It got so bad even that they would have to
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  Speaker 1: forage for food in the woods, dude, in the woods.
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  Speaker 1: That surrounded their house. Additionally, James' father's health would deteriorate rapidly.
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  Speaker 1: And this would mean that he would have to spend
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  Speaker 1: most of the time in the hospital, leaving just James
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  Speaker 1: and his mother to survive on their own. And like
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned before, James would heavily be influenced by his mother.
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  Speaker 1: Typical mommy's boy. Typical cult leader mommy's boy. Typical serial
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  Speaker 1: killer cult leader's mommy boy. Cult leader's mommy's boy. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard to say. It's hard to say. And through multiple
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  Speaker 1: reports from people in Lynn that knew the Jones family,
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  Speaker 1: Lynetta was a horrible mother by the definition. And she
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  Speaker 1: apparently had zero maternal instincts and would often neglect James.
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  Speaker 1: And while Jim's dad was in the hospital, his mother
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  Speaker 1: was finally forced to get a job from Jim's aunts
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  Speaker 1: and uncles. Otherwise they would stop financially supporting her. And
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  Speaker 1: that would mean that Jim was often left alone during
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  Speaker 1: his most important developmental years. But people in the community
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  Speaker 1: would invite Jim to come to their homes and keep
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  Speaker 1: a roof over his head if his mother wasn't home
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  Speaker 1: and give him food as well. It really does take
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  Speaker 1: a village To raise a cult leader. And because Jim
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  Speaker 1: was being raised by the community of Lynn, essentially, he
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  Speaker 1: got to know everybody that lived there. And one person
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  Speaker 1: in particular, Myrtle Kennedy. It was the wife of a
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  Speaker 1: pastor that was in town, and she grew quite fond
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  Speaker 1: of Jim through his developmental years. She also sparked his
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  Speaker 1: interest in religion as well, giving him a Bible and
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  Speaker 1: encouraged him to learn the gospel. And this would cause
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  Speaker 1: him to attend church regularly and get baptized by several
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  Speaker 1: churches inland. He would even go as far as to
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  Speaker 1: start preaching in private, and when his mother caught him,
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  Speaker 1: she was absolutely mortified and prevented him from attending church afterwards.
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  Speaker 1: So this kid was already preaching and nothing at like 15.
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  Speaker 1: That is so disturbing. I can't even imagine walking in
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  Speaker 1: on that. But this is when Jim would begin to
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  Speaker 1: obsess over religion. And combined with the childhood neglect, this
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  Speaker 1: created extremely odd behavior. He would begin to frequent the
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  Speaker 1: casket marker in Lynn and pick up roadkill and host
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  Speaker 1: mock funerals for deceased animals, which is kind of cute,
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  Speaker 1: I guess? I don't know. It's kind of up. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. But then he would try to convince other
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  Speaker 1: children in the neighborhood to attend the funerals, but most
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  Speaker 1: were extremely disturbed. which is fair, and refused. And Jim
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  Speaker 1: would be forced to have his own funerals alone. And
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  Speaker 1: you'd think that isn't so bad. I'd see that and
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, that's kind of sweet. But
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  Speaker 1: then multiple people in Lynn would report seeing Jim kill
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  Speaker 1: a cat with a knife and then host a funeral
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  Speaker 1: for it. So it doesn't, that's when it gets just
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  Speaker 1: thrown the first ingredient in the serial killer cult still.
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  Speaker 1: And if the funerals and obsession with religious practices weren't enough,
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  Speaker 1: He also claimed that he had supernatural abilities at a
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  Speaker 1: young age. One time he even claimed that he could
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  Speaker 1: fly and jumped off a roof to only break his arm,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is kind of funny. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: funny to be honest. I also thought the same thing. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think I could fly. I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: test it. Turns out, didn't. Turns out also, I also
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  Speaker 1: broke my arm. I guess that means I'd make a
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  Speaker 1: good call leader. I don't know. But even after his fall,
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  Speaker 1: he still thought he could fly. He just hadn't mustered
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  Speaker 1: up that power properly yet. That's the difference between Jim
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  Speaker 1: and I, you know? And he would also put neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: children into extremely dangerous situations. And if they were to
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  Speaker 1: survive and sustain no injuries, he would tell them that
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  Speaker 1: he was guided by the angel of death. So despite
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  Speaker 1: Jim's supposed deep-seated beliefs in God, he was not a
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  Speaker 1: very holy person based on his actions. Obviously. And because
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  Speaker 1: of his actions, he never really made friends. What? That's crazy. Additionally,
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  Speaker 1: just to put a cherry on top of the cake,
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  Speaker 1: he would also greet everyone by calling him a son
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  Speaker 1: of a bitch or a bastard. That's not going to
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  Speaker 1: get you very far. He was also known for petty theft,
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  Speaker 1: like stealing from stores, which would force his mother to
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  Speaker 1: pay for stolen objects with money she didn't have. And naturally,
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  Speaker 1: every time he would get in trouble, his mother would
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  Speaker 1: beat him with a belt, which I do not condone.
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  Speaker 1: But also... I know what he did, so. And Jim
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  Speaker 1: would even claim that he replaced the holy water at
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  Speaker 1: his Catholic church with his own urine, which is so gross,
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  Speaker 1: and would put cow poop in the minister's Bible. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's in the Bible, but I think
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  Speaker 1: that's wrong. I think that's a bit sacrilegious. And when
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  Speaker 1: he would go to church retreats with families, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: he would go on to explain to everyone, including children,
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  Speaker 1: graphic details about and how people procreate it. So Jim's
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  Speaker 1: behavior as an adolescent, yes, he was an adolescent during
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  Speaker 1: all of this, was pretty terrible, but it would only
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  Speaker 1: get worse as he got older and went into high
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  Speaker 1: school and would learn more about the world. And he
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  Speaker 1: would be heavily, heavily inspired by the one and only
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  Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler. Oh God. Not to mention Stalin. Marx and Gandhi.
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  Speaker 1: Some okay ones mixed up in there, but Hitler was
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  Speaker 1: his god, basically. And he would become extremely enthralled by
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  Speaker 1: the Nazi party and Hitler's ability to maintain complete control
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  Speaker 1: over extremely large population. You see where this is going? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's where it went. He would even go as far
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  Speaker 1: as to hail Hitler and raise his hand when German
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  Speaker 1: POWs were being transported through Lynn. So by the time
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  Speaker 1: Jim was entering high school, he basically cemented himself as
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  Speaker 1: a social outcast. And most people in the town disliked him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say all. I'm just gonna say, because
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  Speaker 1: who the fuck would like that? Okay. So he would
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  Speaker 1: start out as a child of neglect, and he would
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  Speaker 1: take advantage of the town's generosity and would develop it
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  Speaker 1: into some sort of weird kind of sanctimonious charlatan. And
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  Speaker 1: in becoming a teenager, he would slowly lose support of
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  Speaker 1: the town, obviously, and this would just make him... a
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  Speaker 1: very spiteful and deranged human being. He would even go
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  Speaker 1: on to say, as an adult speaking about his childhood, saying,
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  Speaker 1: I was ready to kill by the end of the
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  Speaker 1: third grade. I mean, I was so aggressive and hostile.
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  Speaker 1: I was ready to kill. Nobody gave me love, any understanding.
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  Speaker 1: In those days, a parent was supposed to go with
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  Speaker 1: a child to school functions. There was some kind of
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  Speaker 1: school performance, and everybody's parents was there but mine. I'm
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  Speaker 1: standing there, alone, always was alone. And as I said before,
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  Speaker 1: Jim would exhibit extremely weird behavior as a child. He
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  Speaker 1: would almost use religion and faith as a facade to
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  Speaker 1: cover up his true colors. However, his acts were so
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  Speaker 1: heinous that nothing he could have preached could have made
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  Speaker 1: the town of Lynn forget his actions. But also while
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  Speaker 1: he was in high school and similar to a lot
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  Speaker 1: of other cult leaders, he actually did pretty well. He
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  Speaker 1: was known to be an above average student. However, that
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  Speaker 1: did come with some quirks. For example, he would never
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  Speaker 1: talk to anyone unless he started the conversation and he
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  Speaker 1: would always wear his Sunday clothes and carry the Bible
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  Speaker 1: everywhere he went. So he just had this like superiority
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  Speaker 1: complex from a very young age and it's like, classic
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  Speaker 1: narcissist behavior. But on the other hand, he would adhere
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  Speaker 1: to his faith in high school, staying away from drinking
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  Speaker 1: and smoking and even dancing, thinking that those that did
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  Speaker 1: that were less than him. And this would just make
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  Speaker 1: him even more of a social outcast. He would even
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  Speaker 1: go as so far as to try to convince the
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  Speaker 1: kids to read the Bible with him rather than going
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  Speaker 1: out to parties. Sounds pretty lit. Did you invite Mark, Luke, Matthew,
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  Speaker 1: and John? It's a Bible joke. It's a Bible joke.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't get it, that's all right. And he
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  Speaker 1: would struggle even further to make friends because in 1945,
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  Speaker 1: his parents would get divorced and his mother and him
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  Speaker 1: would move to Richmond, Indiana. And he would graduate in
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  Speaker 1: the early fall in 1948 with honors. Didn't do much
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  Speaker 1: with that though. But while in high school, Jim would
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  Speaker 1: have to get a job to support his family. Since
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  Speaker 1: his mother now again didn't work, they lost financial support
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  Speaker 1: from other family members when she got divorced. and he
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  Speaker 1: would choose to work at Reed Hospital as an orderly.
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  Speaker 1: And while he worked there, he would exhibit odd behavior
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  Speaker 1: like he always does with the patients and with coworkers
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  Speaker 1: as well. But also while he was working there, he
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  Speaker 1: would meet his unfortunate future wife, Marceline Mae Baldwin, who
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  Speaker 1: at the time was a nurse in training. Jim would
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  Speaker 1: also never go out for any sports. He actually opted
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  Speaker 1: to help coach Little League games and young children's sports.
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  Speaker 1: But that job wouldn't last that long because he gathered
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  Speaker 1: the kids that he coached at one time and dropped
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  Speaker 1: a little puppy dog from a window and killed it.
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  Speaker 1: He was let go shortly after. No shit. No, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why he did that. He just did it,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, to like teach a lesson or something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But soon after graduation, Jones and Marceline
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  Speaker 1: would move to Bloomington, Indiana. And James would attend the
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  Speaker 1: Indiana University of Bloomington and work towards a secondary education.
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  Speaker 1: But he would only attend IUB for about two years
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  Speaker 1: before moving to Indianapolis and attend Butler University and graduate
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  Speaker 1: in 1951. That is one thing that's different about Jim
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  Speaker 1: Jones than a lot of other cult leaders that I
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  Speaker 1: have covered. Like they are smart, but more like street smart.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas Jim Jones was actually like book smart as well.
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  Speaker 1: So he kind of had that upper hand and he
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  Speaker 1: actually followed through with things. normally cult leaders, they kind
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  Speaker 1: of fail in life for a long time and then
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  Speaker 1: they find this and they're good at it, but he
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  Speaker 1: was actually pretty good at shit as he went through life.
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  Speaker 1: So just built up that narcissistic mentality through the years.
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  Speaker 1: And while at college Jim would become a huge supporter
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  Speaker 1: of communism, which is very cult-like when you look at
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  Speaker 1: all the cults, right? And so much so that when
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  Speaker 1: he graduated, he reported that FBI agents regularly confronted and
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  Speaker 1: harassed his mother and family about his affiliation with communists,
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  Speaker 1: but that never happened. So Jim would become frustrated with
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  Speaker 1: the FBI and decided that if he couldn't openly practice Marxism,
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  Speaker 1: he would use the church as a way to live
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  Speaker 1: his life to the fullest. Screams cult, doesn't it? It's coming.
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  Speaker 1: So while moving around, Jim and Marceline would get married
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  Speaker 1: in 1949. And as you can imagine, Jim.
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  Speaker 1: Was a f * * * ing terrible husband. He
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  Speaker 1: was reportedly emotionally and psychologically abusive to Marceline, and he
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  Speaker 1: had a huge issue with her own religious beliefs. Marceline
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  Speaker 1: would grow up as a Methodist and held those beliefs
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  Speaker 1: while married to Jim. And the biggest gripe that Jim
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  Speaker 1: would have with the Methodist church is that they believed
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  Speaker 1: in racial segregation. And Jim, his only good attribute, was
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  Speaker 1: a staunch anti-racist. And this would all stem from a
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  Speaker 1: time when he was in high school, he went to
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  Speaker 1: a baseball game and saw discrimination against the African-Americans there. Furthermore,
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  Speaker 1: his father was also a registered member of the KKK
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  Speaker 1: and refused to let Jim have any black friends or
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  Speaker 1: let any black people even enter the home. This is
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  Speaker 1: what caused him to sever contact with his father after
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  Speaker 1: his parents' divorce. So you might thinking like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: at least he's not a racist. But in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: knowing that he's a narcissist and that he wants control
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  Speaker 1: over everything, Like maybe there was an aspect of him
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  Speaker 1: not being racist, but I think it was also just
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  Speaker 1: being able to control anyone, like no matter what they
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  Speaker 1: look like. And just having like that virtue signaling, empathetic
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  Speaker 1: look about him. It wasn't necessarily about what he thought
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  Speaker 1: was right. It's what he thought benefited him in my mind.
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  Speaker 1: But who's to say? So in 1952, Jones would actually
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  Speaker 1: join the Methodist church. and get a job with them,
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  Speaker 1: but only to kind of infiltrate and spread socialism to
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  Speaker 1: anyone that would listen. But this would end early due
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  Speaker 1: to him stealing from the church's funds. Although he claimed
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  Speaker 1: it was because he integrated an African-American population into his congregation.
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  Speaker 1: And in 1953, Jones would visit the Latter Rain Church,
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  Speaker 1: and he would have a woman tell him that he
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  Speaker 1: was a great prophet, to which he was extremely excited
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  Speaker 1: to hear. Who knows if that actually happened? I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it didn't. Like, as if he didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: big enough ego, you got just some weird chick who
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  Speaker 1: probably took some sort of payment that was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be somebody someday or whatever, and he
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  Speaker 1: took that and really just rode with it, rode with
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  Speaker 1: it all the way to Jonestown, killed a bunch of people,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll get to that. And he was very successful,
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  Speaker 1: but the churches he was involved in did not like
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  Speaker 1: the latter rain movements. So he decided to take his
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  Speaker 1: preaching somewhere else. He began to associate himself closely to
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  Speaker 1: the Independent Assemblies of God, or the IAOG, a group
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  Speaker 1: of churches that embrace the latter rain movements. And if
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  Speaker 1: you don't know what the Latter Rain Movement is, it's
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  Speaker 1: basically a movement that emphasizes the importance of spiritual gifts
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  Speaker 1: like prophecy, healing, and speaking in tongues. People like Billy
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  Speaker 1: Graham are more associated with this. And it was and
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  Speaker 1: still is a very controversial way of teaching. And with
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  Speaker 1: this ministry, he would be ordained by Joseph Mattson Bowes,
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  Speaker 1: a leader in the Latter Rain Movement and in the IAOG.
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  Speaker 1: I've said it so many times, I can't say it.
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  Speaker 1: I can't say it right. IAOG, IAOG, IAG. I-A-G, I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying I-A-G now, and was alongside a more important member,
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  Speaker 1: William Branham. And Bram was kind of a big deal
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: in the I-A-G church. He drew in massive crowds, and
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: he would have so many people attend his sermons. He
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: was extremely personable, and the people that showed up to
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: his sermons, he would know them. He would know their
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: addresses and names, who their family members were, why they
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: came for prayer, before promptly pronouncing them healed if they
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: needed healing. And Jim Jones would see this as a
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: golden age. and would begin to do the exact same
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: thing that Branham had done, but just better. Not better,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: but you know what I mean? Like more effective? And
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: people would start to think that Jim Jones had a
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: supernatural gift where he could heal and help people for real.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: And this would prompt the Jones Church to explode with popularity,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: renaming it what it is famously known for as the
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: People's Temple. And Jones was gaining more and more traction
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: in the community, with more people joining the church every
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: single sermon. Because Jim Jones was a prominent equalist, he
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: would push for black equality and the removal of segregation,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to which he did many things to show the integration
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: of both white and black, which at the time a
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: lot of people were for because, I mean, we see
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: it now as such an obvious, horrific thing, racism. But
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: back then it was like, you know, 50-50 toss-up, basically.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: So you see this guy who can perform miracles and
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: that was preaching good, that people are all equal and,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: you know, recipe for disaster. Throw that in the stew.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: So he would catch restaurants that wouldn't serve African Americans
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: and he would see that African American people weren't treated
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: as well in healthcare as well. So he would slowly
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: start to target the white supremacists who would also try
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to jeopardize his activities. But despite how much they tried,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Jim would just keep pushing on. But Jones was starting
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: to lose his shit at this point, as if he
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: already hadn't, but he was starting to become unstable at
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: this point, believing in visions of a nuclear apocalypse that
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: was going to become upon him. Again, same shit every
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: single cult. There's always a nuclear explosion, earthquake that's going
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to happen. It's just always doom, doom, doom, right? And
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: he's the savior. And this would cause him to believe
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: that that South America would be the safest bet away
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: from the nuclear threat. And moving there and moving his
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: entire congregation there, would be the safest bet as well. However,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: he kept battling with getting more money so he could
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: move everybody to South America, and the church would become
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: extremely divided at this point, and he would start to
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: lose members very, very fast. So Jones would reluctantly focus
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: back on the church and downsize his congregation, eventually settling
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: in California. And this is where Jones would infuse his
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: own worldview back into the church. Apostolic socialism. Sounds pretty cool.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: It's not. to which the entire view of basic Christianity
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: completely fell apart. Instead, he would completely disregard the Bible,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: calling it racist and a tool of oppression towards women,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: even mocking God as sky god, and then he would
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: start to refer to himself as god and that there
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: was no god beside him. Basically, again, just like all
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: the other cults, he is a prophet, he is a god,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: he is that who should be worshipped. He was even
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: quoted saying to promote his What you need to believe
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: in is what you can see. If you see me
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: as your friend, I'll be your friend. As you see
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: me as your father, I'll be your father. For those
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: of you that don't have a father, if you see
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: me as your savior, I'll be your savior. If you
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: see me as your god, I'll be your god. God damn.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Just kidding.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Just every girl with that issue is joining this cult.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: But historians are kind of split whether he truly believed
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: he was a god. I don't. I don't care what
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the historian says. I think he's just a narcissistic asshole
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: who thought he could take advantage of a bunch of people.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And he just wanted to manipulate the masses, basically. But
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: it goes without saying that It was working and the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: abuse would not end there. Not even close. Jim Jones
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: would soon become a complete drug addict, tightening the paranoia
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: that he already had. And it would also make him
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: use more of an iron fist in controlling and manipulating
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: his followers. And he would compare the flow of racism
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: from the KKK to the Nazis to eventually failing on
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the USA government. And this is when the cult-like environment
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: really started to brew. Okay, we got that stew. boiling
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: right now. And the first thing that was culty as
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: f * * * was basically that he told his
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: followers if they joined, they would have to turn over
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: all of their assets, which again, classic cult. Why do
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: they all do this? They all do this because if
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you don't have anything, all you have is the cult
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and the cult leader, and that's all you have to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: lean on. and then you just feel like you're trapped,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: yadda yadda yadda yadda. So he did that. But in turn,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: he would gift them a room and board. And some
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: followers who would work outside of the church would donate
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: large portions of their income to the church for benefit
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of the community. Oh, and by the way, if you
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: didn't spread the good word of Jim Jones, he would
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: prophesize your death with fire, car accidents, or even worse.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So basically, He's the founder of gaslighting. But the discipline
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: did not stop there. Jones would control even their sex lives,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: very similar to Children of God, which I talked about
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: in this video. Go check it out if you haven't
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: seen it. Telling some people to get abortions, not marry
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: certain people, and even requesting favors from married women. And...
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: male members of the cult as well. And anyone that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: would rebel against him or talk ill of him, that
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: he would give them fewer food rations, humiliate them, publicly
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: ridicule them, and just more terrible shit. So the church
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: was growing rapidly at this point. He's performing miracles on
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a daily basis. And Jones would even go as far
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: as to hire armed security staff to protect himself. Because
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: obviously someone who is kind-spirited and has a very positive
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: following would need such defense from their own members. Makes sense.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: She kind of trips me out thinking about all the
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: government people and how they need people to surround them,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: defense people. It's like the people don't trust them or something.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: It's really weird. It's like it's evil and it shouldn't
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: be happening or something. Anyway, and in 1971, he would
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: receive waves and waves of negative press calling him out
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: for quackery. Love that word, I'm gonna use it more. AKA,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he was claiming to have the powers of God, basically,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: like healing, which many did believe was true. And some
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of the stories of healing didn't really make any sense.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: And when investigated, revealed some horrific details.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: He was tricking people. But did people see it? Did
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: people see it? People wanted to believe so much that
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: they didn't see the negativity. The ends justify the means.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: So you dismiss those means. Because the ends was... This
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: was creating a utopia.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: In one instance, a woman was drugged by Jim Jones
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and in her sleep, her arm was put into a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: cast where she was told she fell and broke her arm.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: And in a later healing service, Jones would remove the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: cast in front of everyone, promptly healing it. It's kind
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: of smart, I'm not gonna lie. Just kidding. It's terrible.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: And the woman would of course have zero recollection of
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: any of this happening. So she would be in absolute
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: awe that she was cured. Like I can't even imagine
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: being in that scenario and that happening. And like you
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: have somebody you trust, like a doctor saying that that happened. Like,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just, and at the time too.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I feel bad. I feel bad for the people that
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: were followers. And in another instance, a member of the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: church who was kind of in on it already claimed
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: that he had cancer. And during one of the healing
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: ceremonies and after the prayer, they began to cough something
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and spit it out. And it was a small gray
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: blob that he claimed was a tumor, but it was
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: actually a chicken gizzard that he put in his mouth beforehand.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: But the congregation naturally celebrated that it was the amazing
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: gift of Jim Jones. However, more and more investigations of
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: abuse were coming out within the church with physical and
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: mental all being accused to Jim Jones and his congregation.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So Jones was already a maniac at this point. And
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the series of articles targeting him did not help. It
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: even got some members to actually leave the church because
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: of all the bad press that he was getting. And
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: these investigations were becoming more and more potent as time
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: went on. And Jones was quickly starting to realize that
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: he was under attack and that his church and congregation
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: were more and more likely to fall apart. So Jim
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Jones was becoming extremely unpopular in the United States at
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: this time. And that thought process made him question if
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the US was actually the place to be due to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: his stance in the ideas of communism and religion. And
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: because of this, it made Jim Jones believe that leaving
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the United States would allow him to preach and practice
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: whatever he wanted, however he wanted. away from the prying
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: eyes of the United States and government and reporters. So
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he would decide to move his congregation to a different country.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And he would decide that being in South America was
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the best place to go, and specifically, Guyana. And Guyana
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: would already share his personal beliefs and political ideations of socialism.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: And this choice even swayed his followers, believing that Jones
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: was such an inspiration that they would follow him anywhere
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: he went. And they would, unfortunately. Hundreds and hundreds of
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: his followers would follow him to Guyana, taking refuge in
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the capital of Georgetown, later renamed to what's famously known
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: as Jonestown. And this location was as most cult leaders do,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: advertised as a complete utopia, away from the rules and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: ridicule of Americans who didn't agree with the socialist heaven.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And his cultish influence had them completely relying on him.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And also because they basically had little to no choice.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: They were in a country that they've never been in,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and they were completely trapped and had zero assets, no money,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: no way of getting out. So they were basically... at
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Jim Jones's will. And without any of their own knowledge,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Jim Jones would also restrict their visas after they arrived.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: So they had quite literally no chance of being able
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: to leave. And in the commune, Jim Jones would force
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: his followers to watch communist propaganda on a regular basis
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and documentaries about the failings of the American dream. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Jonestown at this time was very small with only around
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: 50 members existing in the new location and couldn't house
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: any more members due to being extremely unprepared. Buildings were
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: falling apart. and weeds were covering the fields, but Jones
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: was adamant about bringing more and more people to the commune.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And later in May, 1977, 600 followers would arrive in
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Jonestown with a few hundred more in later months. And
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Jones would then make preparations to transfer his money from
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the US to Guyana, to which he had over $ 10
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: million in wealth, which at the time, according to inflation
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: in 2024, that would be about $ 53 million. But because
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: of the lack of infrastructure, Jones would send people out
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: to work. And for the first several months would have
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: them working six days a week from 6.30 a.m. to 6.00 p.m.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: with a generous hour lunch. How kind. But this isn't
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: even paid work. It was basically like you gotta work
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: in order to have a house, in order to eat food,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: in order to live. very communism. And Jones was inspired
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: by the system of eight hours of work, eight hours
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of study. And this is what Jim's would implement into
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: his society after borrowing techniques from Kim Sung's Korea and
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Mao Zedong's China. And he was slowly introducing advanced mind
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: control as well and behavior modification techniques inspired by his heroes. Those,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: of course, being the communist and socialist leaders he had
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: looked up to ever since he was a kid. And
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: when he would give the news of what was going on,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: which was the only way to receive news in Jonestown,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Jones would portray the US as like a capitalist and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: imperialist villains.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: United States is calling for the removal of all Blacks
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: and Indians, so is England, and want to have their
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: immigrant Black Indian population removed.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: While his socialist heroes like Kim Sung and Joseph Stalin
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: were put in a more heroic light. But unfortunately, he
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: wouldn't stop there. He needed more control at all times.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Jim would crave completely blind obedience from his followers. and
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: would isolate them by controlling all communication in and out
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of Jonestown. Letters were screened and censored. Calls were monitored
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and or scripted. One woman named Leslie Wagner Wilson would
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: recall her experience in Jonestown on a Scandinavian talk show
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and how she joined Jim Jones at 13 years old.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: And when she went to school, she was instructed to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: only speak with the other Temple kids. Well, 13, yes.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, my first experience that there was something wrong
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: was my first day of school and someone said I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: wasn't to talk to anybody but... temple kids. And he
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: would test the obedience of his followers in the most
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: f * * * ing insane way. A way that
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: is clear now to be foreshadowing for the events to come.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: And they would be called white knights. And when a
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: white knight was held, it was basically just a giant
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: mock slewerslide drill. And this would test his followers' loyalty.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: His followers would be instructed to drink what they believed
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: would be a mixture containing a fatal amount of but
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: there was no actual poison in these drills. And by drinking,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you would prove yourself to be loyal to the cult
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and to Jim Jones. Needless to say, this was an
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: incredibly dangerous environment to be in for everyone in Jonestown.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine how, like on the edge of their
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: seat every moment of the day was living there. So
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the isolation of Jonestown, plus the patrol of armed guards
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: outside as well, who served as both protectors and captors,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: prevented anyone from leaving. Some utopia. And family members of
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Jonestown residents were extremely concerned for their relatives. They would
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: even form groups and call them the Concerned Relatives. The
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: name needs some work, but I get where you're coming from.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: And this was the primary opposition of Jonestown and was
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: the same group Jim Jones would rail against in all
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the night, in his all night long rants. And the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Concerned Relatives would put extreme pressure on American authorities to
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: investigate Jim Jones. and Jonestown, with the primary goal of
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: being able to communicate with their families and free them
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: from the cult. The concerned relatives would create flyers to
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: rally support to freeing the captives of the cult, which
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Jonestown would attempt to combat with flyers of their own.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And these efforts were aided by Jonestown defectors, such as
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Deborah Layton and Tim Stoen, telling their stories as former
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: cult members. Deborah Layton would be a financial secretary and
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: trusted aide of Jim Jones, who left the cult and
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: issued an affidavit detailing the threat and possibility of mass
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: slew or slide in Jonestown. And Tim Stoen was a
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: lawyer who had been instrumental in choosing Guyana as the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: location for Jonestown and would later work with the concerned
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: relatives to petition for the government to investigate the cult,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: as well as helping a mother fight for her son
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: who was trapped in the cult at the time. But
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Tim's defection from the cult was speculated by some at
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the time and was said to be possibly one of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the things that sent Jim Jones over the edge. And
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: after a significant time of Jonestown being a thing in Guyana,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the US government would finally get involved when Congressman Leo
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Ryan of California's 11th Congregational District, which includes a lot
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: of San Francisco, to investigate what exactly was happening in
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Jonestown with the large population. And Leo would have a
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: personal connection to the Jim Jones cult, given that he
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: was friends with Bob Sammy Houston Sr., the father of
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Bobby Houston Jr., who was a temple member whose mutilated
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: body was found near the train tracks in 1976. And
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Congressman Leo Ryan would be accompanied on his trip to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Guyana as well by the congressional delegations consisting. the following.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Jackie Speier, his then legal advisor, Neville Anaborn from Guyana's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Ministry of Information, Richard Dwyer, the Deputy Chief of Mission
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: of the US Embassy in Guyana, and several reporters were
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: also brought from various media channels. Tim Reiterman, a reporter,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and Greg Robinson, a photographer from the San Francisco Examiner,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and four people from NBC accompanied as well. Don Harris,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: a reporter, Bob Brown, a camera operator, Steve Sung, an
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: audio technician, and Bob Flick, a producer. The Washington Post
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: sent their reporter Charles Krause as well, and the San
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Francisco Chronicle sent a reporter as well, Ron Javers. So
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the entourage of reporters accompanying the congressman were also joined
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: by the representatives of concerned relatives, including Tim Stoen, the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: attorney who'd been previously integral to the formation of Jonestown.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Basically all three groups that Jim Jones regularly preached against
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to his followers. The U.S. government and the media, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the family members who were opposed to the cult were
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: coming right to them, with the man, Tim Stoen, whose
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: departure spurred a lot of resentment and vitriol within Jim Jones. So,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Lee and Ryan and his delegation would arrive in Georgetown,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: about 24 miles away from Jonestown, on November 14th, 1978
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: and were initially refused access to Jonestown. They would inform
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Jones on the morning of November 17th that they'd be
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: coming whether or not they were willing and they would
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: make their way to Port Katooma which had an airstrip
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that was about six miles away from Jonestown and Congressman
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Leo Ryan would make his intentions clear upon landing on
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the airstrip while speaking with the local government and military representatives.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: So when they arrived at Jonestown that afternoon, only Leo
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Ryan and Jackie Speier were admitted entrance with the reporters
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: and family members being made to wait until the night
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: before they were allowed in. At which point they spoke
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: with the members of the temple and filmed these conversations.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: And during these conversations, everyone seemed pretty happy. And there
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: was even a musical reception in the pavilion. But what's
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: incredibly eerie while watching this footage is the dozens of
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: children that were in the front of the crowd. And
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: eventually Congressman Ryan was able to address the congregation of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: people here and notes that from the few conversations that
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: he had, it seems to most that it was the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: best thing that has ever happened to them. So clearly
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: they were coached because most people They hated their lives there,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: but they were just scared for their lives. And immediately
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: upon saying that to the crowd, the crowd erupted in cheers,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: only cementing that point further. Whatever the comments are, there
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: are some people here who believe that this is the
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: best thing that ever happened in their whole life. These
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: people love Jonestown and there is no cause for concern.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: At least that's what Jim Jones wants this delegation of reporters,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: government representatives, and family members to think. And during this
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: night of fun and festivities, a couple members of the temple,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: seeing an opportunity to get a message to the people
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: from outside the cult, would approach the members of the delegation.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Vernon Gosney, a man who had regretted coming to Jonestown
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: nearly as soon as he arrived.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I wanted to leave Jonestown almost as soon as I
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: got there.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: We were searched and surrendered our passports. We had armed security.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: It was very regimented. And they would pass a note
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: to Congressman Ryan begging for help escaping. So we had
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: all these people pretending that they were enjoying being in Jonestown.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And then you had a few people that sent the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: note to the congressman. and this would unfortunately cause their demise.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Because unfortunately, a child nearby, a snitch, if you will,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: saw they were passing the note to the Congressman and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: had alerted Loyalist Temple members. Nothing would immediately happen, however,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and that night, Congressman Ryan, Jackie Speier, and two of
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the four people of the delegation were allowed to stay
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the night in Jonestown, while everyone else, the media teams
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and the relatives of Temple members, were forced to find
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: lodging back in Port Katuma. And the next day, when
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the rest of the delegation returned to Jonestown, they were
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: given a tour of the grounds. And this was also
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: a day that Vernon Gosney would have a conversation with
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Jackie Speier about the situation of Jonestown. and he would
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: become one of the growing numbers of defectors who would
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: try and escape Jonestown with Congressman Ryan's delegation. So in
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: trying to get to the bottom of what was going on,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: because this was in fact a finding mission, Congressman Ryan
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: would ask Jim Jones about the note he received from Vernon,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: to which Jones would respond calling Vernon a liar. And
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: when it was getting closer in time for those who
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: were defecting to leave, the temple wanted to keep the
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: children of those who were attempting to leave. And Vernon's
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: own four-year-old son was left behind after he was forced
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to sign a statement saying that he was leaving his
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: son behind of his own free will. So many of
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: those who left and defected from Jonestown loaded up into
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the back of a dump truck and headed for Port Katooma,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: while Congressman Ryan and Richard Dwyer from the US Embassy
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: stuck behind to process anyone else who decided to defect
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: as well. So after the truck had left and the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: news teams and concerned relatives and defectors were headed for
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the airstrip, Congressman Ryan would be grabbed by a knife-wielding
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: cult member, though he was freed when the others wrestled
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the man. In an article, it would say, Jones thought
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: he was still in charge, his henchman. Don Sly attempted
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: to stab Ryan to death on the afternoon of Saturday
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the 18th, but Sly's failure only exposed Jones' comparative lack
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: of power. So Ryan would rejoin the delegation on the
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: airstrip and retell the story of the assault that just happened.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: And among those on the airstrip was Larry Layton, brother
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: to Deborah Layton, who we discussed earlier was the former
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: financial secretary, and top aide to Jim Jones, who had
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: been key in getting the U.S. government to launch an
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: investigation into Jonestown in the first place. And due to
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the size of the group that was attempting to leave
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: with the Ryan delegation, a second plane had to be
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: arranged by the U.S.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Embassy.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: A six-passenger Cessna to join the 19-passenger Twin Otter. But
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: before they could get on the plane, a tractor had
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: pulled up full of Jonestown Red Brigade security and they
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: would begin to open fire on the crowd attempting to
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: board the Twin Otter, killing Bob Brown, the cameraman who
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: would film the attack on the airstrip. And on the Cessna,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Larry Layton was seated with Vernon Gosney, the defector who
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: passed the note to the Congressman Ryan on the first
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: night in Jonestown. So as the Cessna began to taxi
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: down to the airstrip, Larry Layton not the defector he
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: seemed to be, pulled out a handgun and began shooting
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: those on the plane, including Vernon. A piece of shit.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: So he basically faked being a defector to kill everyone
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: on board. But before his firearm misfired, he was disarmed.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Among those that were killed that day were Bob Brown,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Don Harris, Greg Robinson, and Congressman Ryan, who'd been shot
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: over 22 times, and nine others were injured inside and
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: around the Twin Otter, including Jackie Speier. And after the shooting,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the pilot of the Cessna alongside the pilot and co-pilot
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: of the Twin Otter all fled in the Cessna with
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: one temple defector, Monica Bagby, leaving the dead and the
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: injured members of the Ryan delegation on the airstrip, though
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: these survivors were later rescued. And residents of Jonestown were
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: completely unaware of what just transpired on the airstrip. And
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the public address system in the settlement had advised everyone
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: to return to their homes. And that everything was okay.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: During this time, though, Jim Jones, whose followers on the
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: airstrip who had just made very real enemies of the U.S. government,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: ordered his aides to fill a tub of grape flavor aid.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Because in the past, he had done sluice slide drills.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: And it was time for those practice runs to be realized.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Because the flavor aid would be poisoned with sluice. cyanide
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and he would gather his followers into the main pavilion
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: and will record 44 minutes worth of audio during which
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: time he talks about how the plane will go down
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: in the jungle because someone on board will shoot the pilot.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: He is likely referring to Larry Layton and referring to
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: a singular plane because he doesn't know that the second
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: plane got requested to fit the defectors and the Ryan delegation.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: What's going to happen here in a matter of a
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: few minutes is that one of those people on that
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: plane is going to shoot the pilot. I know that.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I didn't plan it, but I know it's going to happen.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And after that, he speculates that because of this.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: And we had better not have any of our children
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: left when it's over because they'll parachute in here on us.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: So my opinion is that we be kind to children
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: and be kind to seniors and take the portion like
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: they used to take in ancient Greece. Step over quietly,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: because we are not committing. It's a revolutionary act.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: The recording that has now been called the death tape
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: is essentially 44 minutes of Jim Jones justifying, rationalizing, and
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: convincing his followers to take a willing step out of
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: his life and into the next plane. And the ending
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: of the tape is incredibly eerie. I mean, I encourage
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: you to listen to the whole thing, just sort of
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: pure curiosity. But he says... We've set an example for others.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: We've set 1,000 people who say we don't like the
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: way the world is. Take our life from us. We
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: laid it down.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: We got tired.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: We didn't commit. We committed an act of revolutionary protesting
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: the conditions of an inhumane world.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And then there's only silence with only like faint music
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: playing in the background. It's like movie. It's a nightmare.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: It is an actual nightmare. And that is when over
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: 900 cultists would either drink the flavor aid or not
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: drink the flavor aid. And those that would not drink
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: flavor aid would flee into the forest and get shot
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: by the security. And those that did died a absolutely
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: horrific death. Convulsing foaming at the mouth, and dying extremely slowly.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: And among that 900 were 200 children that were given
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the cyanide-laced drink. And Jim Jones would go out a
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: completely different way, a completely selfish way, and die of
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a self-inflicted gunshot wound. After the fact, Jim Jones is
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: a giant hypocrite and a f * * * ing coward,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and I hope is burning in hell and being forced
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to drink cyanide every second of the day and night
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and afternoon. I hate you. But unfortunately, the legacy of
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Jonestown lives on when you hear, don't drink the Kool-Aid,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: or is she drinking the Kool-Aid? It's a reference to
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Jonestown in drinking the Flavor-Aid. And it just indicates blind
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: obedience and brainwashing to something or someone. But it is
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: truly a tragedy that's remembered and memorialized still. In 2011,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: a memorial service laid out pictures of all those that
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: died in Jonestown. And a grave site in Evergreen Cemetery
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: in Oakland, California has memorialized plaques as well. And conspiracy
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: theories have also arisen, which are interesting and I haven't
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: heard of until researching this, that what happened in Jonestown
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: was a mind control experience conducted by the CIA with
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Congressman Leo Ryan's own children filing a $ 3 million lawsuit
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: in 1980 alleging that the CIA was involved two years
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: after the events that ended with their father's death. But
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: obviously no evidence was ever found suggesting the CIA had
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: been involved, but That's all I'm gonna say about that.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: But in conclusion, I think this was absolutely tragic and
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: seeing the tapes and listening to him rant and just
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the absolute disregard for human life is horrific. And my
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: heart goes out to any family members that know anybody
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: that were involved. But yeah, I mean, Like I always say,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I say this stuff just so people are aware. I
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: just want everybody to stay safe, but also educated, you know?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I find this stuff extremely interesting, the psychology and everything.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: But you guys know I love to cover this kind
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: of stuff. So if you have anything else you want
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: me to cover, let me know down below. But until
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: next time, Jim Jones, I hope you're burning in hell.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: F * * * you.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: And I will see your beautiful face in the next episode.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: All right, bye.