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Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and the NBA, Jazz vs Pelicans tonight, MVP race, Men's national championship game, · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: This out. Let's get the latest all the Utah Jazz
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  Speaker 1: with former Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more
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  Speaker 1: about the NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's not get crazy. Can come for the hoops talk.
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  Speaker 1: Stay for his list of the day My list today.
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  Speaker 2: Here's o C with.
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  Speaker 1: Basketball sab on Gordy Chiaysa on The Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Always loving to catch up with Gordy Chiasa, who joins
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  Speaker 3: us now, Gordy, welcome back to the show.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, sir, Sean?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing well. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: How'd you feel about the National Championship game in college hoops?
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was really unbelievable, intense game. Defensively, it
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  Speaker 4: was a battle, slutfest, alley fight and Michigan Wolverines go
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  Speaker 4: all around, just game. Took it over in the second hit,
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  Speaker 4: and they made so many big plays and Yukon rehoes
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  Speaker 4: to go away, and if they made a few more shots,
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  Speaker 4: especially that running away when they missed and that five
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  Speaker 4: point swing the end of the game, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: with Michigan people forget that during the game they only
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  Speaker 4: made two three point shots. They shot two fifteen, which
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  Speaker 4: is thirteen percent, But it's when they made him and
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  Speaker 4: that was the key. When McKinny made that three point
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  Speaker 4: shot and broke and play, that was the one and
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  Speaker 4: so the timely shooting by the Wolverines got knocked out.
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  Speaker 4: The really the toughness of the Yukon it was really
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  Speaker 4: there wasn't really a well played game. It was a
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  Speaker 4: hard plat game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the three point shots, that's the sexy stuff, right.
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  Speaker 3: The free throws are the thing that you sometimes see
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  Speaker 3: teams neglect until they become a problem. The Wolverines were
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  Speaker 3: absolutely nails at the stripe and that ended up being
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  Speaker 3: a big difference down the stretch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very much. They go twenty five for twenty eight,
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  Speaker 4: including making twenty in a row for eighty nine percent,
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  Speaker 4: and also add to that points in the paint. So
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  Speaker 4: the winning formula the whole season by Michigan and Wolverines
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  Speaker 4: was the point paint in a three throw line. The
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  Speaker 4: Michigan outscored Yukon in the paint and from the foul
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  Speaker 4: line sixty one to thirty four in a six point game.
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  Speaker 4: So they didn't shoot straight both teams, but the Wolverines
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  Speaker 4: got the bowl. They wanted to and the paint and
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  Speaker 4: he drew fouls or they scored on it, and that
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  Speaker 4: was the differens of the game. I give a lot
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  Speaker 4: of credit to Michigan and also so I give a
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  Speaker 4: lot of credit to the Big Ten. So here we are,
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  Speaker 4: we live in the Big twelve country, meaning Utah and BYU.
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  Speaker 4: But let's let's remember fans right now. The Big Ten
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  Speaker 4: had a great national stage this current college season. They
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  Speaker 4: win the Big Ten Champion National Championship with Indiana Hoosas,
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  Speaker 4: they win college basketball Men's championsh with the Michigan Wolverines.
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  Speaker 4: They win the women's basketball Championship with UCLA Bruins. So
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  Speaker 4: Big Ten had a dominant performance the whole league.
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  Speaker 3: You got a basketball school from the Big Ten winning
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  Speaker 3: the football National Championship, you got a football school from
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  Speaker 3: the Big Ten winning the basketball National Championship.
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  Speaker 2: They're just dominating everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very much. And that's the power of nil money.
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  Speaker 4: How you spend how much you have it, who do
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  Speaker 4: you spend it to? And I know later on you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have Sean Mooney on talking about the transport of
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  Speaker 4: what starts today. It's changed, so you have to reprogram
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  Speaker 4: itself all the college sports fans that money does help
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  Speaker 4: teams win, I might saying it's the only reason why.
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  Speaker 4: But if your roster is very talented, the chances of
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  Speaker 4: the winning a much greater, Very similar to the pros.
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  Speaker 4: But in the pros you're used to having the salary
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  Speaker 4: cap and the luxury tax and the first second apron
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  Speaker 4: all these different words you use all the time. But
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  Speaker 4: you still have to get talent and get them to
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  Speaker 4: play together as a group. And that's what Michigan did
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  Speaker 4: last night. And the NBA players which start very shortly
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  Speaker 4: in April eighteenth, we'll see how it all, how it
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  Speaker 4: starts out. As far as the intensity.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned the transfer portal being open, and we were
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  Speaker 3: just talking about that and how you have to, like,
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  Speaker 3: if you're a Utah basketball program right now, you have
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  Speaker 3: to figure something out here. You're losing some of your
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  Speaker 3: best players to the transfer portal. You got to bring
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  Speaker 3: replacements back in, but you really need improvement. You can't
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  Speaker 3: even just have like a one to one replacement. You
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  Speaker 3: got to get more value back than you're losing, and
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  Speaker 3: of course the best way to do that is with money.
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  Speaker 2: But money's always a question.
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  Speaker 3: If they called Gordy Chiers and said, hey, we need
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  Speaker 3: some advisement. We need you to figure out how we
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  Speaker 3: handle this college free agency. What would be your approach?
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  Speaker 4: First thing, my money I spent wisely, including getting guys
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  Speaker 4: on perimeter. So if you could improve your team at
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  Speaker 4: point guard to guard small forward wing how you want
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  Speaker 4: to word it, hybrid forward meaning a stretch for man,
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  Speaker 4: That's what I would do, because in college basketball, it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't matter as far as I'm perimeter until you can
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  Speaker 4: get that one big guy that you need maybe a
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  Speaker 4: year from now where he's available. But spend your money
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  Speaker 4: under primitive guys and try to get as much shooters
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  Speaker 4: as you can, and try to get a guard that
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  Speaker 4: can penetrate to make lesser talented people meaning big guys
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  Speaker 4: in the lane. They can score off off your penetration
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  Speaker 4: and how you play the game as the guys on perimeter.
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  Speaker 4: So I said, I would spend more money as you're
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  Speaker 4: building a culture of in this nil money stream on
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  Speaker 4: perimitive guys.
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  Speaker 2: Gordy Chez.
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  Speaker 3: For a few more minutes here on the Sean O'Connell show,
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  Speaker 3: let's switch our focus over to the NBA and one
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  Speaker 3: of our favorite guys to talk about Victor winbn Yama,
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  Speaker 3: who he's got a bruised rib. How much is this
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  Speaker 3: going to affect him for the rest of the regular season.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they might hold him out, so it makes no
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  Speaker 4: sense for them they're going to try to attempt to
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  Speaker 4: catch the thunder. It's unlikely. I think they know that,
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  Speaker 4: and so they should hold them out until he's one
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  Speaker 4: hundred percent with his range of motion. And you know
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  Speaker 4: about a bruised rip is that it's hard to breathe.
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  Speaker 4: That's the first thing. And also as far as movement
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  Speaker 4: and his body's angular, so he'll be hit in that
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  Speaker 4: same spot literally thousands of times during the playoffs. So
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  Speaker 4: it will affect them as far as maybe not winning
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  Speaker 4: an extra game the last week of the season. But
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  Speaker 4: they're pretty entrenched in the second seed right now with
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  Speaker 4: that sixty wins, which is actually impressive. So think about
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  Speaker 4: the Spurs last year they won thirty four games. This
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  Speaker 4: year they won sixty games and maybe sixty one to
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  Speaker 4: sixty two, and that's really a great turnaround led by
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  Speaker 4: Victor Wembiyama, but also the other cast of characters stooding
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  Speaker 4: Stephan Castle and their roster. It fits showing all the
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  Speaker 4: guys on the tee, the starting unit and the bench guys.
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  Speaker 4: They play as a unit, and each person on the
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  Speaker 4: court becomes a floormate because what one guy does well,
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  Speaker 4: the guy next to him does something different as different
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  Speaker 4: as far as the movement, and that makes the whole
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  Speaker 4: thing work in unison.
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  Speaker 3: Will the Spurs allow wen bin Yama to play at
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  Speaker 3: least twenty minutes in one of these final three games
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  Speaker 3: so he's eligible for postseason awards?
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  Speaker 4: Yes? They will. Yeah, the answer is yes they will.
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  Speaker 4: They're very conscious of that. Yes, and showings alluding to
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  Speaker 4: right now, you have to play sixty five games to
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  Speaker 4: be eligible to make with Wenbyama definitely the most the
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  Speaker 4: best of US player in the NBA, but also possibly
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  Speaker 4: getting high votes as far as being the MVP now.
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  Speaker 4: I mentioned earlier last week that I would vote Wenbyamba
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  Speaker 4: the third and my ballot as far as the league
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  Speaker 4: MVP one, Shay two Yolkic and three and three Evictive
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  Speaker 4: and beyonder. That's just me talking that based on individual statistics,
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  Speaker 4: but what a guy does for his team you take
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  Speaker 4: away when beyond and it's not as fall now away
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  Speaker 4: from the Spurs, there's still be a very good team.
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  Speaker 4: You take away Shay away from the Thunder, they still
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  Speaker 4: be a good team. You take away Yokic away from
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  Speaker 4: the Nuggets, yikes, they would be dramatically lesser. Speaking of
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  Speaker 4: Jokic is that I always talk about him because what
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  Speaker 4: he does is like, we've never seen a guy like
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  Speaker 4: do this, including like Wilton, those guys you're not showing
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  Speaker 4: you always talk about. The numbers are just incredible what
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  Speaker 4: he does for his team A Jokic. So last night
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  Speaker 4: theyre down sixteen points in the fourth quarter against the
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  Speaker 4: Trail Blazer if they can't miss a shot, the Trail
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  Speaker 4: Blazers a Nuggets dug in. So they rally from sixteen points,
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  Speaker 4: they bring it to overtime. Jokic last night gets thirty
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  Speaker 4: five points, thirteen rebounds, and thirteen assists for the ninth
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  Speaker 4: straight victory. All right, here's the thing I'm talking about
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  Speaker 4: as far as they illustrate the value of Jokic. He's
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  Speaker 4: had thirty three triple doubles this year, which leads the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: The second most triple double this season is Josh Skitty
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  Speaker 4: of the Bulls with thirteen, So Jokic has twenty more.
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  Speaker 4: But here's the biggest thing. Shay Jillis Alexander this year
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  Speaker 4: has no triple doubles, and Victor wen Beyanda this year
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  Speaker 4: has no triple doubles in a game.
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  Speaker 3: Zero from there, both of them from two of the
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  Speaker 3: top three MVP candidates.
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  Speaker 4: Correct, And they're great. And so the point I'm making
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  Speaker 4: is that it's not trying to the spirit those guys' performances,
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  Speaker 4: because they are absolutely elite. But this is how brilliant
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  Speaker 4: yokch is. Just that he looks clumsy, so a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times, you know, it's the eye test, you know, Jokic,
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  Speaker 4: He's the kind of guy that you would go to
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  Speaker 4: a b with and have a play and shoot pool with,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and uh and have just
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  Speaker 4: have a fun time with his brothers. Okay, But in
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  Speaker 4: the meantime, besides too that he's a great basketball player
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  Speaker 4: and he's we never seen a guy like this. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Larry Bird was also a great player, but Larry Bird
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  Speaker 4: had more bounce. This guy doesn't have the bounce, but
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  Speaker 4: he has the unbelievable instincts, incredible shot maker, and he's
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  Speaker 4: got some Baltic toughness so beneath you know that low
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  Speaker 4: jumping body, that guy puts his puts his frame on
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  Speaker 4: the other guy's frame to create separation.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, I'm running out of time here, but I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to sneak this one in.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Mike Malone as the North Carolina coach.
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  Speaker 2: How do you think that works out very well?
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  Speaker 4: Tremendous coach. Has East Coast tied to the recruiting. I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure the higher staff and general manager that's going to
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  Speaker 4: help Michael Malone. But as far as coaching, they've upgraded tremendously.
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  Speaker 4: He got red. When you coach in the NBA and
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  Speaker 4: you're an NBA champion, all the guys that might want
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  Speaker 4: to go to Carolina versus Michigan, they're going to think
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  Speaker 4: about going to Carolina because of Mike. He'll do very
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  Speaker 4: well and they're back in play as far as being
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  Speaker 4: a national power.
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  Speaker 2: What's your list today, Gordy?
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  Speaker 4: All right? List today? Sean speaking he let three point shooting.
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  Speaker 4: This is this list is a short list the most
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  Speaker 4: Korea made trees by NBA players off the bench. These
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  Speaker 4: are off the bench gunslingers, which is an amazing thing. Quickly,
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  Speaker 4: the three point shot in the NBA is this forty
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  Speaker 4: seventh season of it. The three point shot in the
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  Speaker 4: corners twenty two feet. The off three point line is
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  Speaker 4: twenty three feet and nine inches. The Olympics in LA
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  Speaker 4: starts in twenty twenty eight. For the Olympic three point
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  Speaker 4: shot is twenty two feet one and three quarter inches.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go on the eleven players. The eleventh greatest
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  Speaker 4: off the bench three point shoot as far as made
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  Speaker 4: threes is Mono Genobili and have ironically shown le you
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  Speaker 4: like yourself. He is only a lefty on this list.
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  Speaker 4: He made nine hundred and twenty nine off the bench
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  Speaker 4: threes number ninth place all time, tied Terren Tross and
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  Speaker 4: Tim Hardaway of the Nuggets. They both made off the
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  Speaker 4: bench nine hundred and fifty six threes number eight all time.
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  Speaker 4: JL Smith a J. Smith quickly. He's one of the
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  Speaker 4: few guys that we know played for both teams during
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  Speaker 4: the same game by his performance where he's searching an
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  Speaker 4: erratic player, but he can make threes. He's made one
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  Speaker 4: thy and twenty two threes number seven as we speak
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  Speaker 4: right now. The assistant coach Utah Jess Jason Terry. He
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  Speaker 4: made one thousand and thirty eight, sixth all time. Former
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  Speaker 4: JS hate check gunslinger Jordan Clarkson of the Knicks. Right now,
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Clarkson has made one thousand and fifty six made threes,
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  Speaker 4: number five all time. He's the fall of the world's
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  Speaker 4: greatest shooter of all time Seth Curry. We're talking about
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  Speaker 4: Del Curry. Also, former jazz man Dell made one thousand
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  Speaker 4: and ninety three off the bench three number four. Nickname
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  Speaker 4: was Sweet Lou. Lou Williams made one thousand and two
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  Speaker 4: thirty five number three all time. Nick name was mister
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  Speaker 4: double Crossover Jamal craffin two fifty nine. The second greatest
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  Speaker 4: three point shooter off the bench career wise is Patty Mills,
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  Speaker 4: who played most of his group of the Spurs one
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  Speaker 4: thousand and two sixty two, and the number one player
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  Speaker 4: of all time to make Korea threes off the bench
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  Speaker 4: is former jazz player also sharpshooter Kyle Korver. Kyle made
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  Speaker 4: one thousand and three eighty five threes off the bench. Thus, Sean,
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  Speaker 4: don't we love threes?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't love him because I think total in
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  Speaker 3: my life I've made about seven.
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  Speaker 2: But other people seem to love him.
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  Speaker 4: Think of making off the bench showing your team is
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  Speaker 4: losing by fourteen, you come in the game in the
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  Speaker 4: second quarter and so you make four straight threes and
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  Speaker 4: then your whole team is uplifted and they get you
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  Speaker 4: back in the game. Or in a playoff game where
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  Speaker 4: a guy makes, you know, three corner threes in the
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  Speaker 4: fourth quarter, it's uplifting for the team, and hey, power
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  Speaker 4: to the people.
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  Speaker 3: It's really a cool thing when a guy gets hot
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  Speaker 3: on a hot streak shooting from beyond the arc. But
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  Speaker 3: I just can't relate, Gordy. I like watching it, I
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  Speaker 3: just don't know what it feels like.
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  Speaker 4: So we should know showing it that in playoff basketball,
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  Speaker 4: that three point shot is if you're best friend or
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  Speaker 4: your worst enemy, depending how you look at it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we're going to see some of that play
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  Speaker 3: itself out with the upcoming NBA playoffs, and we'll have
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  Speaker 3: Gordy Chiasa joining us throughout talking about all the things,
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  Speaker 3: all the happenings in the NBA, this open now, INCAA
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  Speaker 3: Transfer Portal, and all things hoop.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Gordy, thanks you on peace out. That's Gordy Chiaza,
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  Speaker 2: our resident NBA Guru