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Yeah, Feminists do NOT like that GenZ men are going their own way | Maintaining Frame 83 · Honey Badger Radio

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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you may be. Welcome
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to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian, I with Allison, and
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this is maintaining frame number eighty three. Yeah, feminists do not like that
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gen Z men are going there. We're gonna be looking at an article.
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I talked a little bit about this on the call in show. I read
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through the Guardian article on this subject and some stuff related. But this has
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started a conversation on the webs and other people have been writing about it,
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so I thought, yeah, it'd be a good thing. And for extra
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fun, I have Bingo cards. So we're gonna be looking at a video
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and I should I'll share this tab with you. Well, okay, so
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what I was thinking, because I hadn't actually looked at the article, we
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could just skim through the article in the article and then go to the video.
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Wow, this is a short article. No wait wait wait, no,
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there's a continue reading. Let's see. Let's see. Oh it is
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still a short article. I guess it's just because that's somewhat Yeah. I
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mean, there isn't a ton that I think you can extrapolate, especially if
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you don't if you don't really know what's going on? And you're just like
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grasping, you know, which I think that most people are doing because usually
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when they when we're talking about something some way that in some new way that
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women can be framed as victims, it's indurmitable. The length is like they're
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they're basically writing war and peace and the and it's it's really turgid pros just
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yeah, and she shivered and in an all polescent horror has It's on the
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web of patriarchal I was like, oh, shut because somebody slapped the thesaurus
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out of your frickin fingers. Yeah, I know ethansaurus is a yeah,
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okay, yeah. So I was thinking, you go through like the article
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that this is all the kerfuffle is about, and then we could could do
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bingo on the on the video and the video is what is the video?
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The video is from well Pearl Davis uploaded it on her channel, but it's
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a clip from GV News sort of like a bridge news show. I think
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it's like an Internet thing, you know, kind of like I don't know,
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Rebel Media or one American network or something. And they're talking to a
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panel of this guy. He's the he's just the host discussing this, this
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revelation that essentially young Generation Z men are walking away from feminism, like they
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don't. They think it's bad for men. They think it's done more harm
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than good. And there there, it's a significant number, but it's not
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a majority. It's still a very small number. Like those those are rookie
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numbers. You need get those up. So you got to get those numbers
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up, boys. But but but nonetheless, you know, it's still troubling.
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And so he's talking with uh three guests. At first it's Pearl Davis,
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you guys might know, just pearly things. And the other one is
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a woman named Animee Mangan or Mangan or something, and she's like a feminist
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writer. And then later on Connor Connor Tomlinson, who is basically like from
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the Lotus Eaters appears and they kind of have a three I don't want to
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say three way because it's not at all sexual, but they have a uh,
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you know, three way because there's the older one. The host is
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not. Yeah, he's trying not to be a part of the conversation.
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I will give him credit for that. He's he's not he's you know,
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he stays out of it. For the most it's not really a three way
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when someone sits in the corner and spits on you. Yeah, I'm just
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not Yeah, like one is not participating in any conceivable interpretation of the word
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participate. Right, But yeah, it's like, okay, so that's the
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video. Why don't you explain these bingo cards? Yeah, so the bingo
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cards, Well, you know, we've we've tried to do feminist bingo before
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and I fortunately have like a super useful ool lets me draw right on the
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screen here, So I thought I would use what was that? Oh no,
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I'm going, oh yeah, it's a whiteboard tool. So basically,
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I figure, while we're watching the video, we'll wait and see if the
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feminist crosses off any bingo letters. Like you know, you're a man with
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therefore your your opinion is invalid, body shaming, the wage gap, you
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have a small penis you know, the normal sort of like high brow academic
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arguments that feminists make, you know, misogyny. That's a good one.
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Man's plaining what yet to encounter, Like the thing is that they can they
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can do all kinds of the asaurus, thesaurus, theosaurus. Yeah, did
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you know about the ancient of the ancient dinosaur saurus. Yes, period,
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the the diction dictional, dicalithic, All right, I goes okay, anyway,
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so yeah, we have one for them. When you're talking to them
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about like all the all the nuance, they can sling the thesaurus like the
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best of them. But the instant you start saying, but what about the
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fundamental premises there, they start to hiss and make threat displays. Yeah,
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the fundamental premises are just you know, it's like, well, let's assume
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the world is made of purple legos. I don't even think there are purple
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legos, but let's just assume that the world. If the world was made,
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and let's just assume it. And then and then everybody gets socially ostracized
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if they don't agree that the world is made by purple legos, and then
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all everything else follows from the world made by purple legos. But you can't
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question that initial premise. I mean, you could pretty much prove everything if
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you just allow the person to define all the initial premises and also conclusions.
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Anyway, Yeah, of course. So yeah, we have feminist feminist bingo,
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and we'll basically listen for anything that might like activate the card. We
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have red pill lit bingo because that could be fun. Like, what are
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the things that you predict Pearl might say during this discussion, Things like bring
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up EVO psychology top G. That's basically just code for Andrew Tate because he
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always comes up when these things are being discussed. Women should probably be adults.
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Those are like some red pill things men men can be victims of domestic
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violence and so on. And then we have trad con bingo, which I
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put in old timey letters and it's basically things like is it that time of
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the month, The red pill is bad? We believe in real equality,
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women most affected and both sides. Those are just some examples of what I
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predict you know, will come up and we'll see who wins the bingo game.
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Yeah, so yeah, and where's the men's rights bingo? Well,
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I guess the red pill bingo has men's right stuff in it, But none
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of the people on the panel are really Pearl's the closest thing to an MRA
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on the panel, really, I mean, m hmm. Yeah. She
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talks about mostly like things like relationships, and she gets a lot from guys
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like Kevin Samuel's but but there until we actually have like MRAs on there,
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this is the best we're going to be able to do. Yeah, because
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the thing is, can't we talk about getting services for male victims of rape
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and domestic violence without always having to have a position on the Nineteenth Amendment?
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Kevin? Just like you know, that's not really relevant. Yeah, maybe
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we can deal with divorce and and child custody and alimony and all of this
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other stuff without constantly circling back to that one topic. You know, well,
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you know it is the most The thing is is that it's going to
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come up because it is the most like, yeah, I know, radical,
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and so this is useful for the people who either are the feminists or
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they want to maintain the status quo, which means they are the feminists.
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Oh yeah, okay, all right, all right, but no, you
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want to start with the article, yeah, because we want to discuss We
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want to actually give like a grounding on what this video is about. Right,
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I want to have a little commentary on the on the general subject before
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we we get into the fun stuff, the fun and stuff by some definition
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of the word fun. Okay, right, so maybe you should oh right,
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yes, I should think the things. Okay, so, uh,
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well I actually don't have anything upright at the moment, but however, well
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right, let's go all right, all right, let's uh let yeah,
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let's go ahead and get into article first. So bringing that up on the
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the bri Naru. So this okay, So the one I read on Friday
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was from the party. I think this is kind of like a a repost
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of it, you know, like they saw the article and they're making an
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article out of the article. But I could be wrong. So it says
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woke gen Z men are actually more likely than baby boomers to leave feminism does
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more harm than good. Research says there's a picture of the top g that
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doesn't count as part of the Bengo kard. I'm just gonna skip that.
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Gen Z has often been touted as the most inclusive generation, yet it's the
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demographic that's leading discussions around mental health, sexual experiences, and politics. New
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research shows that feminism doesn't make the cut in their progressive views or or growing
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What was that? Well, I mean, if it is I don't know
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that like well, I'll get into it later, or growing cohort of young
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men the radical belief that women should be allowed the same rights, power and
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opportunities as their counterparts is even harmful. That's according to a new study from
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King's College London's Way to poison the Well, Holy good, Holy well poisoning
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Batman Good, Like right, in the second paragraph, you've just completely discredited
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your approach for growing core hoed of men, the radical belief that insert my
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alleged yeah into a bumper sticker sentiment, women are human, the radical believe
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that women are human. Honestly, I think the reason why you're losing people
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is because you consistently present the radical the belief that, you know, not
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hating women is good as radical rather than just the blog standard for a human
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being, and people are tired of it, especially young men. Okay,
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yeah, that's according to a new study from King's College London's Policy Institute and
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Global Institute for Women's Leadership in partnership with IPSOS UK, which has uncovered that
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older men actually have more progressive views on the equality of the sexes than the
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next generation of men. Perhaps surprisingly, gen Z men are more likely than
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older baby boomers to believe that feminism has done more harm than good. In
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fact, one in four UK males age sixteen to twenty nine believe it is
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harder to be a man than a woman, and a fifth of those who
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have heard of the self proclaimed misogynist, the self proclaimed okay whatever Andrew Tate
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took look favorably favorably upon him. So this is it's interesting because the article
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I looked at, or the one that I read through on Friday of last
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week, was not it was about feminism in the same in terms of like
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what it was concluding as as problematic, but it was really about like not
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just the direction that Generation Z men are going, which is away from feminism,
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but it's they're also like moving away from progressivism in general, and women,
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young Generation Z women are moving more feminists. They're going further you know,
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in progressive uh, in a progressive direction. So this isn't just this
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isn't just like men are less enthused with feminism, and plus they're still largely
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in favor like like the there's just fewer of them, like there's you know,
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it's still like what what is it that they said? One let me
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go back to this because it's put it in perspective. It's not like like
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the gen Z men are just like based all over the place. They're basically
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like less fringe than the previous than the millennials, but they're still like pretty
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you know, like it's not it's not a majority, it's not even like
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yeah, but it's moving towards it. It's moving towards it. Yes,
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yes, But what I'm saying is is that they're making it seem more catastrophic
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than it is, Like it's like twenty percent or or something like that.
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No, and yeah, I ended up saying, like, you know,
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of one and four, so it's twenty five percent. Yeah, believe that
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it's hard to be a man than it is to be a woman. Well,
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okay, can we like hear that out or is that just like I
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can't believe it and that's it? Maybe maybe they have a point, And
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I mean one in four is still too low in my opinion. I mean,
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I don't think you should be making the we should be playing the victimhood
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Olympics. But if you feel like men have issues that are unique to men,
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then that they should be that they're not getting the appropriate amount of attention
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and women's issues do then you could conclude that it is hard to be a
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man. Well, it's really it's fundamentally simple. Like the the role that
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men play in society is the value that they're given to society. So when
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you take that role away from men and offer it to women, then you
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have the question, well, how are we going to value men? And
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yeah, that's it. I mean that that is the bottom line. I
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also want to point out that they're making hay to the fact that a fifth
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of those who have heard of Andrew Tate look favorably on them. So you
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know, of all the people who like it Andrew Tate, about twenty percent
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are like, yeah, he's okay, exactly favorably because I looked at the
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actual I looked at the actual statistics, and it's not like they're in love
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with him. It's basically they're either they're either like, well, whatever,
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he's okay. You know, that's it. Like they're not just like I
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want to be like that guy, like some are. But it's still a
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small percentage. It's like twenty percent of the people who've heard of him are
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like, yeah, he's okay. Yeah, Yeah, it's not even a
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high number. It's not exactly like it. But but the thing is though,
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it's it's the tool they're using. Yes, So like that's what when
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they say, oh my god, twenty percent, Oh my god, self
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described self proclaimed misogynist. So they're trying to create like you know, a
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storm and a pea cup, basically like they're trying to wh boy for a
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psycho. Like have you read their conversations, Like there's this woman, I
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forget what her name is. She actually has the lion's share apparently the lion's
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share of the charges, and when you read their conversations, she sounds like
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an absolute cycle. Like they they invited in some kind of mob enforcer and
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they're just like they're in the cage with this this tiger, and they're like,
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how do we get this woman not to eat us? Okay, but
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that's actually sort of it's sort of it's sort of darkly hilarious that it feels
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when you read those those that commentary, it feels like the Tape Brothers are
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in the cage with a tiger, like they just accidentally came across a real
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hardcore violent criminal and now they are stuck with her and they don't know they're
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like, oh, please, please, Okay, it's okay, you don't
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have to do that. You know. It's actually really like if you're into
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black comedy, that's some serious black comedy. But anyway, yeah, you
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know, maybe he has the right to be a little bit of a misogynist
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considering he's in some ways it sounds like he's being eaten alive by one of
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those women that he got in business with r you know, like, not
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that he would ever admit such a thing. But let's let's let's move on,
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all right, We'll just keep going. But my point is is that
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firstly, it's not happening that drastically. In fact, I think it's women
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are because when I when I went through I looked at the studies and it's
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it's gen z. Women are are moving more radically more feminists, like way
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faster than the boys, and the boys are like some of them are kind
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of rejecting it, but for the most part, they're staying somewhat consistent the
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previous generations. The general is, are you sure that specifically feminist or just
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the general Well, I could, I would say generally leftist, but that's
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still generally less. It's it's yeah, but it's feminist. It's base like,
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it's based in that it feels like like there's a there's the feminism is
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tearing itself apart over the current politics. Is it's tearing itself apart over the
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gender politics? Yeah, well, you know it might actually be. Even
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though we're watching them rock it into radicalism. It's almost like you're watching your
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alcoholic aunt just totally destroying her life and you're like, you know, yeah,
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yeah, she's she's utterly no, no, don't enable it, don't
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don't just let her hit rock on them. Just let her hit let let
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her hit the ball and then maybe maybe she'll wake up in a puddle of
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her own vomit and piss and say, hm hmm, this isn't really the
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life I want to live. Well that's what that's Yeah, that's what I'm
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hoping for. Yeah, I gotta, I gotta, I got some super
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chats, and Albert data Retro says, any chance you could post the card
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on Facebook? Two dollars thank you? Not now, because I'm doing a
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show. Sorry, you'll have to follow along unless I figure out a way
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to distribute bingo cars to people. We're just doing it this way. Iggy
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Thunders gives us five dollars thank you, and says, I'm just in time
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for the Blue Pill bean Flickathon. And then I got there was a super
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chow from today, but it was before the show. HBr News number four
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thirty nine. Why not, Zoidberg? Why not? Dorberg gave us five
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dollars and said, boy Scouts of America. Why not tomboy Scouts of America?
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Why not? Okay, so now let's get back to the article.
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Thank you guys for the chats and supercows not expected. The data is in
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stark contrast what most believe about men today versus their pale, stale, and
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male predecessors. The public was more yeah, and that statement right there doesn't
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actually quantify why more and more men are getting fed up with your shit,
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like you're literally telling them why they're fed up with you. The public was
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most likely to think the oldest group of men believe equal opportunities for women have
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gone too far, the research said. However, millennial men followed by gen
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zers were significantly more likely to actually feel that way. So even the millennial
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men and this is the thing that I think when people are I think that
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when when these people are projecting like, oh, how progressive is this generation
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or that generation. I feel like they're not looking at what the men are
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saying. I think they're just looking at what the women are saying, and
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they're going off of that. And then when they when they get data from
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the men, it surprises them. Maybe the men are, you know,
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like they want to keep their jobs, so they just agree, Yeah,
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sure, I believe in equality for women. I believe I should give up
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my job so a woman can take it. You know, you want to
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stay at home. Let's reverse in all of the all of the supposed social
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prohibitions against men working. So you know, allegedly women had all of this
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pressure not to work, and fair enough, maybe they did. And however,
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there was a corresponding pressure, social and legal for men to take care
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of them. So let's reverse that pressure. Make it so men have significant
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pressure against them working, but there's no social or legal expectation that women then
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take up the slack of taking care of them financially. That's sure to work.
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Yeah, okay, let's all right. It's clear that young men who
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were witnessing the push to pull women up the ranks are worrying about their own
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future careers. Around twenty percent of gen Z men think it'll be much harder
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to be a man than a woman in twenty years time. In comparison,
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for men over sixty years old, this drops to just nine percent. So
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yeah, I don't think this is another thing that I can't I can't stand
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that I see a lot there's this assumption that because men are witnessing women pull
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up their ranks, they're worried about their future careers. I don't think that's
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really what men are worried about. I think what men are worried about is
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that they're not going to be in a position to be a provider that women
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will find attractive because other women are essentially like getting their jobs unless the men
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go into some like field that women are just not in. So if you're
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a man and you're interested in working in counting or administration, or you know
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some other area where you could as a man get a job, but women
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could also get the job, Like I guess what I'm saying is is that
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I don't think that men are generally only thinking about the dollar. I think
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they're thinking about how do I build something stable enough to raise a family and
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be like pretty satisfied with it, and these people are always talking about it
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like there's something else going on, Like you know what I'm saying, am
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I like that? Like that men hate the idea that women are achieving.
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Yeah, that they hate the idea that women are achieving and not necessarily their
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women are going to be their their choices are going to depend on where the
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man is at, and so they're like, you know, they're limiting,
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like they're not going to marry down unless we actually, like, you know,
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put that reality out there so that women are prepared for it. You
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know, m Well, yeah, they're not going to marry down. And
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men like, here's the thing that a lot of the people who point at
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men and yeah, it is an insecurity. It's it's like you are asking
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gen z men to do the equivalent of of whacking off their breasts for women
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in terms of being attractive, in terms of feeling attractive and being attractive,
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right, And you know that a woman who has lost her breast has lost
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an aspect of her femininity. That's why insurers will act actually pay for breast
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cancer survivors to have reconstructed breasts, right because they know it's there's a valuable
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aspect to their psychology in terms of how they feel attractive to the opposite sex
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and feel feminine and all of that stuff. Well, a job sort of
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functions similarly for men. So gen Z, men are are like looking at
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this and like, well, we're going to be castrated. We're going to
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have an essential part of our attractiveness to the opposite sex removed. There's got
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gonna be any kind of compensation for that. There's They're not going to have
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a campaign like uh oh, you know, beautiful even without or something like
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that. That's never going to happen men, Right, So they're looking at
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a loss of an essential component of their attractiveness and their masculinity, and there
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it is agitating for them, right, That pressure hasn't changed. Yeah,
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it's upsetting, you know, Like it's not it's a source of how did
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women feel when they lose their breast? Men feel the same when they lose
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their careers, right, and not exactly the same. But I'm trying to
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give a compassionate comparison that men women can maybe understand. I mean, imagine
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that, imagine losing your breast very similar to some of the feelings that men
27:15
have facing the loss of a career or or or bias against them, general
27:21
bias against the men building a career. They know that's what makes them attractive
27:25
to women, and feminists and articles like this can dance around the truth as
27:30
much as they want, But men haven't invented the idea that women find them
27:36
attractive for their income. They have invented that idea, Like these guys aren't
27:41
like, oh, you know, well, it's not the fact that they
27:45
think that women don't aren't attracted to them because they aren't making enough money.
27:49
That's preventing them from getting dates. It's the fact that they aren't making enough
27:52
money. And there's no way you can try to square that circle and make
27:56
it work. It is reality. It's a statistical reality. You see it
28:02
everywhere. Okay, if if men made more money, more of them would
28:07
be married. The biggest predictor for divorce isn't personality and compatibility, isn't always
28:15
not loyal or funny or kind enough. It's he lost his job, all
28:19
right, So this is this is this is just a reality, and we
28:23
can't change that by putting our heads in the stand even if we wanted to
28:29
change well, you know, if that was a goal. We'd have to
28:32
recognize the reality in order to change it. Yeah, and be sympathetic to
28:36
that and not just act like, oh, you're just mad because women are
28:38
getting stuff. Now, It's like, yeah, but when men get stuff,
28:42
they give most of it to women and their children. When women get
28:45
stuff, I guess they just keep it. But there's it's different. Yeah,
28:51
and the and it and it's again it's and it's a matter of being
28:55
attractive. Yeah, like you're you're you're expecting these young men to face a
28:59
loss of their attractiveness to women and be okay with it, and or you
29:07
frame any kind of negative reaction in terms of power and fear. No,
29:10
maybe it's the same feeling that a woman gets facing the loss of her breast.
29:15
And I know this is a very strange analogy, but I'm trying to
29:18
get it from the conversation about Oh, these men they just they want they're
29:22
losing their privilege. Well, they never really had it, really, right,
29:26
they didn't have it, Okay, So I mean even this is a
29:29
is a great counterexample to the whole Oh, men are just complaining about losing
29:33
their privilege. Well, wouldn't that be the baby boomers then like they were
29:37
the men who had presumably a little less to they actually had something to lose
29:44
and they lost it. Well, they're okay with that. It's the young
29:47
men who grew up with never having it in the first place who are slightly
29:52
concerned of both not having the or or or playing on a field that's slanted
29:59
against but also the fact that in order to be attractive to the opposite sex
30:06
they have to win, right, those two joint pressures. They are the
30:11
ones who are upset about it. Maybe let's move it out of the fear
30:12
and power, because feminists bring everything between men and women down to fear and
30:18
power. Have you noticed that everything is in power? Yeah, these guys,
30:26
it's not about fear and power. It's about the same suite of emotions
30:30
or suit of emotions that women have facing a loss of something fundamental to their
30:36
sense of self, their sense of femininity, their sense of attractiveness, their
30:40
breasts to breast cancer. Can you just just get into that headspace if you're
30:45
a woman and understand how that must feel, And it's not fear and power.
30:49
It's more shame, disheartening, probably a sense of your mortality, a
30:57
sense of what is the worth of it. A sense of embarrassment, humiliation,
31:04
your self consciousness, uh, depression, loss, sadness, concern,
31:15
like all of those emotions that for some reason feminists think that are are are
31:19
you know, Like even though there are no pink and blue brains, men
31:22
just can't access those emotions because of and toxic masculinity. Yeah, But at
31:30
the same time, like the emotions are something so fundamental, they don't start
31:36
like there there's something that you start to develop at the very beginning of your
31:41
life. Like it's not there's no socialization that can prevent a man from feeling
31:45
embarrassment or sadness or shame, which I you know what, I'm sorry feminists,
31:51
I know men. I'm pretty sure they feel those things. I know
31:55
you think they don't. You think everything is power and fear. But it's
31:59
it's from my own observations of men. I have walked among the gorillas in
32:05
the midst and I would say that they have a very very very deep and
32:12
varied, very very deep and varied emotional life. Okay, feminists want wit
32:20
men's emotions to be like too black and white, fear and fear and power.
32:24
Well that's not the case, you know, and I just wanted to
32:30
point that out because that's that's one thing that really aggravates me about all of
32:32
this, And I think that's what you're picking up on. Yeah, that's
32:35
what I'm That's what I'm getting at, is that there's an assumption that men
32:37
are are are are feeling upset because they're like losing something power, losing one.
32:45
And it's like, well, is that what you think that a job
32:47
is? Like? Is that all you think it is? I'm sorry,
32:52
but it's like I think I don't know. These people don't band Okay,
32:59
I got to understand. No, they don't want to understand. Let's I
33:04
got a super child. I'm gonna read it really quick from Richard Bierre.
33:07
He gives us five bucks and says, why not femboy Scouts of America.
33:12
I am speculating that the feminist lobby is intentionally trying to create conditions that are
33:16
at least perceived as hazardous socially to women, that they can have something to
33:21
justify their advocacy and activism and restrictive laws and policy. But yeah, it's
33:27
never about the thing, is never about the thing. It's only about the
33:30
revolution. Yeah, but also like verifiably feminists have embraced things that make women
33:35
less safe. Yes, in order to promote their ideology. Yes, they
33:40
want people and more danger so they can say, look, you guys need
33:43
more feminism. Whenever I hear feminists say but we are the party that cares
33:47
about No, you're not. You're the party that cares about feminism. And
33:52
the thing is something like occurred to me today. I was just sort of
33:54
puttering around and I was like, women are apped in feminism mm hmm,
34:02
and the gen Z women are the ones playing this out. They're trapped in
34:07
feminism with with I think eventually the gen Z men will will probably have to
34:15
pick up the pieces if they want to. That's the other thing. Maybe
34:20
maybe considered not if they want to. But yeah, have I have noticed
34:23
that the zoomer women are there's more of them, like kind of like crying
34:29
out, like what what? Why can't I just be a wife? And
34:35
you can You're just gonna make enemies of the establishment. Well, but they
34:40
can't just be a wife and mother. Well you can't. The economy for
34:46
various reasons, and very much is a is a down stream to feminist influence
34:52
is tanked. Well, I don't want to say that it's it's well,
34:58
you could live you can live within your but it means giving things up.
35:01
Yeah, if you want to be you can live in this economy. You'll
35:07
just have to live with less. Yeah, and you'll have to maybe go
35:10
out into a rural area to buy a house or something. Yep, oh
35:14
for sure, for sure. Okay, anyway, this is a new and
35:19
unusual generational pattern. Normally, it tends to be the case that younger generations
35:23
are consistently more comfortable with emerging social norms as they grow up with these as
35:28
a natural part of their lives. Professor Bobby Duffy, director of the Policy
35:31
in Things, College London, said this points will real risk of fractious division
35:37
amongst this coming generation of young Well that's okay, that's true. This is
35:42
the big thing about Generation Z that I'm most worried about is the divide between
35:46
male and female in terms of their beliefs and values is like further apart than
35:52
any other generation. I wonder if there's any thing or idea or set of
35:57
values that has contributed to this. I mind boggles when I see the graphs,
36:05
Like, it's not that the Gen Z, even in the UK,
36:08
I don't think that the gen z is going like men are actually really going
36:13
that far right. I think they're pretty much. It's that they're pretty moderate.
36:20
It's the girls are falling off a cliff. And honestly, like,
36:25
at this point in time, do you really want to have a child with
36:32
a woman who thinks that a child can decide on its gender? You know,
36:39
when it's when before it's gone through puberty. Yeah, I mean that
36:45
would be terrifying. Well that yeah, okay, so the rise should I
36:53
read the rise of the this is a short article item, Yeah, the
36:59
right of misogynist influence. Beware of the buzzwords, guys. At the same
37:05
time as young men are turning away from feminism, misogynist men are rising in
37:09
popularity online. When we should have done bingo on this on this article,
37:16
well, I mean, this is all stuff that like, I mean,
37:20
I haven't read this, but I already know what's in it. I already
37:22
know. And it's I want to know who else they're gonna mention because they're
37:27
saying misogynists men plural, though I already know one person. Okay, Misogynists
37:34
men are rising in popularity online. According to Duffy, men who are feeling
37:37
sidelined are filling that void by tuning into influencers like Tate and having their views
37:42
affirmed. Despite facing charges in Romania, which he denies, of human trafficking,
37:46
rape, and forming a criminal gang that's sexually deployed women, Date still
37:51
has a loyal legion of fans, with eight point seven million followers on the
37:53
social media platform x alone is popular. Instagram and Facebook accounts were taken down.
37:59
And why he been banned? What proof Reid he been banned from ever
38:06
having a TikTok account? Content posted under the hashtag Andrew Tate has racked up
38:10
billions of views. I mean, don't go on TikTok in one video that
38:15
led him what he's been right supposedly? Okay, I you know the thing
38:24
is, does this is? This is? Has it changed? Because again,
38:30
the one of the women that he was doing business with, the you
38:35
know, the the the heavy uh, she got more charges. We're supposed
38:38
to know, we're supposed to believe what these people say on Bolk Cigars and
38:45
drives, Bugta Bugatti or whatever. It's obviously the bad guy. So don't
38:51
ask questions. Just consume product and get excited for next product Okay, anyway
38:59
in one video that entertain Okay, I'm making an executive decision. No more
39:02
Andrew Tate. Like this is getting really annoying. They basically just use him
39:07
like Gamergate. Now, yeah, that's that's right. Yes, yes,
39:12
they've been doing that for years. I've been saying this. I've been saying
39:15
this forever because every time his name comes up there are people in the comments
39:19
like, oh, and it's like you don't understand, like this isn't about
39:22
the guy. This is just using the guy. It could be anybody.
39:25
It could be anybody, It could be any group, Like you said,
39:30
Gamergate, fucking deplorables. January sixth, whatever you want to say, you
39:34
just throw it to Paul Elam whatever you know, bash of Violent Bitch Month.
39:38
It doesn't matter. These people are not interested in having a real conversation.
39:44
They are interested in using people as political weapons against us because they don't
39:47
want the conversation to take place. That's it. So you can debunk all
39:52
day and it doesn't fucking matter. Okay, they're gonna do it with Pearl
39:58
too. They're gonna do it Pearl. I'm att I don't give a fuck
40:01
about Andrew Tait he has nothing to offer. No, I agree, he's
40:06
basically he's pretty much just a bluepil guy, honestly, like, there's nothing
40:10
there but they but they find it useful because he looks like a cartoon character
40:15
to them. Yes. Another name that resonated with over a third of young
40:20
men in the study is best selling author and influencer in Canadian academic That's who
40:25
they're gonna mention next. Brian Oh, let's see hold on? Uh okay,
40:31
I'm down. Oh since then the British American kickboxer turned influencer. Okay,
40:36
Oh, and he's not the only one, only one of many anti
40:39
feminist podcasts over tombout Peterson right. Another name that's resonated with because Jordan Peterson.
40:45
D Look, you're gonna say, Jordan Peters Andrew here nothing alike.
40:50
Again, these people don't care. Do you guys get this yet? It
40:53
doesn't matter. You can build the best you can build a fucking argument made
40:59
out of adamantium, and it wouldn't matter that, Like the decision is made,
41:05
Jordan Peterson equals at all the bad people, Jordan Peterson, fucking you
41:09
know, Andrew Tate, Donald Trump. It doesn't matter they're all bad.
41:15
It doesn't matter. So and you are bad for liking them or even like
41:20
not wanting them dead. I mean like you don't even have to like them.
41:22
You can just be like, well, you know, I don't think
41:23
they should be executed, and they'll be like, oh, you're a deplorable.
41:29
This is the way it works. It's it's like I just I just
41:34
don't see the point in nuance where people don't want it, like where it
41:39
makes sense where you can say, well, Jordan Peterson's probably how many people
41:43
do you think Jordan Peterson has prevented from offering themselves? How many people do
41:46
you think? But just on his talks, just like you know, with
41:51
his books making a peer, these people don't want those people to be alive.
41:57
They want them dead. They don't care. That should make you angry.
42:02
You should see these people as animals because they are okay with men offing
42:08
themselves because they don't like that. They that they watch Jordan Peterson or listen
42:13
to Joe Rogan or heaven Forbid, go to an Andrew Tate thing like heaven
42:19
forbid. This is what I'm saying, Like the steaks are too high for
42:23
us to be concerned with who they are making into the bad guy. They're
42:28
just too high. I would, at the very least, I would ask
42:31
that you ignore it and just be like, look, these these people,
42:37
for whatever reason, they have probably saved lives. I don't care if you
42:40
don't like it, but that's true. Okay, So let's put it this
42:45
way, all right. These individuals see that young men are dying, they
42:53
see it that they're young men are killing themselves, and they choose to continue
42:59
to focus is on how young men are a burden to others. This is
43:04
monstrous, absolutely monstrous. And the fact that they are looking at they're they're
43:12
lumping people who actually care, like Jordan Peterson, and they're saying they are
43:17
the enemy. It's like Kathulhu. Yeah, like, no, no,
43:23
you They are so much in the wrong they can't even they aren't even a
43:30
position to point to anyone as the bad guy. Yeah. I mean when
43:35
Kevin Samuels died, right and he was like this, you know, black
43:38
guy, Pua guy, talked to women, he was honest with them,
43:43
he offended a lot of them, and then he died and there were women
43:45
celebrating his death like that because they this is what I'm talking about, like,
43:50
this is absolutely monstrous, absolutely monstrous. I'm sorry, there is no
43:54
comparison. There's no comparison. Some guy like doesn't wear a shirt and smoke
44:00
cigars and talk shit. That is nothing like someone who celebrates another man's unfortunate
44:07
demise is nothing like. Okay, and here's the other thing. If Tate
44:12
has done these things, well then we have a system in place for that.
44:15
Yes, so we'll just see what happens. We see what happens.
44:19
He's going to be punished. There you go, the end. Shouldn't have
44:22
pissed off the Romanian mob. There you go, the end. It's dealt
44:27
with. But these individuals who continue to perpetuate a system that leads to dead
44:34
men, they work with impunity, with nobody saying hey wait a wee,
44:37
yeah they do. Yeah, there's no there are no consequences, fingers.
44:43
They get paid for this. Okay, let's keep going, all right.
44:47
Anyway. So Peterson, another name they resonate with over thirty young men,
44:53
is the study and the best selling author, influencer Canadian academic Jordan Peterson,
44:57
who speaks up for demoralized young men and says Tate offers furthright aggression as an
45:02
alternative to crippling defeat. Meanwhile, well, yeah, because like you're not
45:07
you're not helping men at all. That's what. Like the only reason why
45:09
they go to people like that is because you're shitting on them all the time.
45:13
So if you don't want that time, don't shit on them. Not
45:16
even many boys, Like how many boys prefer Jordan? Yeah, well probably
45:22
they won't. They won't give us the data, but it's probably a lot
45:23
higher. Yeah, so like this is this is a this is the fart
45:29
and the wind, like, and they keep making this guy relevant anyway,
45:35
let's keep going. Meanwhile, the female influencer Pearl Davis has a mass nearly
45:38
two million followers on YouTube, where she often collaborates with Tate on videos.
45:43
Not really, she hasn't done that. Has argued that women should not vote,
45:46
that men should be able to hit women back. Well, yeah,
45:50
if they're being attacked, but I don't think they should because they'll go to
45:52
jail. So it's probably not a good idea, even if it makes perfect
45:55
sense, but has argued that women should not vote the mention hit back,
46:00
and has detailed the problem with diversity hires. What does this mean for the
46:05
future of women at work. Previous research has suggested that gen z are most
46:09
likely to see increased diversity as a good thing, and that they take a
46:13
stand against outdated workplace practices like sexism. Yeah, because that was a practice.
46:19
Did you practice any sexism today, Carl, Yes, I did.
46:22
John. I slapped the secretary on the behind. I told her to get
46:27
me a coffee and a bagel. Okay, whatever, Oh God, here
46:32
comes the so young business women hinning their hopes on gen Z to help make
46:37
the hinting their hopes. Yeah, to make the workforce more equitable for them
46:44
and speed up the dial on gender parody. Only seven of the UK's top
46:47
one hundred firms are led by women CEOs. Maffirms. My leadership maybe crushed
46:53
by the new data. How many women trash collectors? There's just one.
47:00
What is the proportion to female trash collectors to female CEOs in the UK,
47:04
If it's anything like the US, there are twenty times more female CEOs than
47:09
female trash collectors. Like there's they're twenty times proportionately, twenty times more.
47:15
Yeah, So I'm sorry. That doesn't speak of discrimination in the higher echelons.
47:22
It speaks of it, and nobody like. These people don't care.
47:29
They don't care what that means, probably because they don't even understand it.
47:31
What it means is that the proportion of male CEOs, for example, to
47:37
male trash workers is something like one male CEO for one thousand male trash workers.
47:44
And I'm I'm way more than that. I've been. It probably is,
47:47
but I'm using trash worker as like a it's synonymous with any shitty job.
47:52
Okay, the proportion of female CEOs to female trash workers is something like
47:58
one to take in right one to ten, And that's the proportion we should
48:04
be looking at to determine who is discriminated against. The ratio of the people
48:08
on the highest jobs to the lowest jobs, and the men are overwhelmingly in
48:15
the lowest jobs, and in fact look or have no jobs. That way,
48:22
men are overwhelmingly discriminated in in the workforce. And you just have to
48:29
realize that you cannot squeeze blood from a stone. Of all the women who
48:35
are willing to work, more of them end up as a CEO than a
48:38
trash collector. Of all the men who are willing to work, more of
48:44
them end up as a trash collector than a CEO. Do you see now,
48:49
we don't have a system of gender parity that favors men at all.
48:54
We have one that favors women. We got forces getting women up to the
48:59
top and men to the bottom. What the hell are you talking about,
49:05
so young businesswomen who are victims? Because that's the big thing here, This
49:09
is the overwhelming thing that always seems to have to happen. Women need to
49:14
be presented as victims and men need to be presented as villains. Notice that,
49:19
mm hmm once again, because those are the real gender rules. All
49:24
right, let's keep going, all right. I got a super chat from
49:29
Iggy Thunders, who gives us five dollars and says, Alison, it's great
49:31
that you're into black comedy. Me, well, I do own a colored
49:35
team. Yeah, oh good lord. And then I got a super child
49:42
from Richard Bierre, gives us five bucks and says, child choosing their own
49:45
gender is just as likely as a cat choosing to be vegan who is really
49:50
making the choices? And the one who became a reality TV show star for
49:54
the process actually exhausted the lifetime medical insurance coverage for the entire family Jazz Jennings.
50:00
Yeah, but her mom got to be famous. I think that's really
50:05
what it was about, and I and I honestly weep for her. I
50:09
mean Jazz Jennings. All right, But anyway, let's continue with the article.
50:16
Uh so young businesswomen pinning their hosts with Jen z oh No. I
50:22
read that, so, how can workplaces become more inclusive when the next wave
50:27
of men coming into them have less progressive views of their predecessors. Well,
50:30
it may be easy to say this as a as a phase that will pass.
50:35
The unusual generational pattern can be seen beyond Britain. Half of young men
50:38
in America also believe they face some kind of discrimination, and less than half
50:43
identify as feminists, supporting to analysis by Daniel Fox, the director of the
50:46
Survey Center on American Life. Well, if I wish to God that that
50:52
were actually precise, but I doubt that it is. Meanwhile, only half
50:55
support the me too movement compared to nearly three quarters of women. No shit,
51:01
men think for themselves and women don't film at eleven. But of course
51:07
I'm sure that there are plenty of women that don't agree, but they're also
51:10
terrified to say so. So they're just gonna be like, yeah, me
51:14
too is good. Similarly, galloped Stata shows when then young men around the
51:19
world are becoming increasingly conservative while women are becoming more progressive. Okay, wait
51:24
then young men around the world. Okay, First of all, only South
51:29
Korea is really showing this. Boy, South Korea is gonna have fun in
51:31
the next decade. But for the for the rest of the world, the
51:35
UK and the US, young men are staying relatively centrist, while young women
51:39
are just doing backflip over the cliff of progressivism. Yeah, just like they're
51:45
just although I think that one thing they're leaving out is this is simply men
51:52
are just like not letting go of their masculinity because I mean, I think
51:57
that's all it is. They want, they want to be men and still
52:00
and the women are trying to drag them and say you should come over here,
52:04
and the men are like no, and some of them, you know,
52:07
like that's what I think. This the divide. Imagine the divide as
52:12
defined by feminists, as you said, Allison's victims, and then there's the
52:15
the oppressors. But the divine in terms of how it's actually shaping out,
52:19
is simply the masculine and the feminine being like the and the masculine. It's
52:22
like like it's like pushing and struggling and you know, trying its hardest to
52:28
stay basically what it is. And I think South Korea is doing the best
52:32
at it, and I'm and I'm here for it. But I think that's
52:36
all it is. I think it's just the masculine and the feminine being like,
52:39
you know, expressing themselves, and the women are just like you said,
52:44
doing backflips. Well, could you imagine having your gender identity and the
52:52
fact that you identify with your sex being a point of political contention? Yeah,
53:00
well it is what this is. The fact men identify as men is
53:04
a point of political contention. Is a point of political contention. It is,
53:09
And we've gotten to the point, we've gotten to the point where it's
53:14
so bad that it is the counterproposition to the overarching thesis. It is the
53:20
antithesis to the thesis of society. That says, astounding to me and astounding
53:25
to me that we could have articles like this that good lord, and they
53:31
don't even realize they're doing it, like or maybe they do. Maybe they
53:34
realize that they're presenting this very very stiltified version of gender roles. Men are
53:42
villains, women are victims, and that young men are reacting to that because
53:47
they're tired of being vilified for something they had nothing to do with. Well,
53:52
it's something and that never really even happened. Like that's the funny thing.
53:57
You think they're pissed now that you know the like, I didn't have
54:00
anything to do with this. This is previous generations. I think they're pissed.
54:04
What about when they find out yeah it was never true. Yeah,
54:08
well dude, they're gonna their heads are gonna explode, Like it's gonna be
54:12
like scanners. I mean, because that the the the amount of ego death
54:17
that would have to happen for people to be like, holy shit, I
54:21
was wrong. And like the older they get, the harder this gets for
54:23
them. But it's true. I mean, like we're gonna find out one
54:27
way or another that's gonna be. Like I said, there's gonna be a
54:29
lot of pain. It's just it is what it is. I hope that
54:32
people are ready or when for this because it's true. And I'm glad that
54:37
men are are fighting because I think they get the sense that their identity is
54:42
under attack, because that's what it is. That's why why do you think
54:45
there are so many articles saying, hey, are you into women? You
54:47
might be like a special kind of sexuality that's heterosexual but not heterosexual? Like
54:52
what what? Like? Have you ever considered wearing high heels? Like they
54:57
do push this on girls, but it's not the same because because when girls
55:01
express masculinity it's positive. When men express masculinity it's negative. It's oppressive.
55:08
Well it's it's not like, uh, well, it's just that they don't
55:14
want to they don't want the Oh you know what this is. This is
55:15
a digression. Let's finish this. Yeah, okay, let's get the article
55:19
where Okay, all right, young men, young men today are entering the
55:27
workplace at a time when women are holding senior positions for the first time in
55:30
some company's history, and it could be the reason why gen Z are feeling
55:34
sidelined and in turn its threatened by feminists. No, this is not true.
55:37
Women have been holding senior positions. They've been a majority in uh like,
55:43
for example, middle management for decades now. Yeah, we've been holding
55:45
senior positions for longer than their generations generation. They've always been important like they've
55:52
always worked, they've always owned property. You'll have how this is like this
55:58
little sleight of hand that they do. Uh, men are finally feeling discriminated
56:02
against, and that's that's about threat. So it's about fear and power mm
56:07
hmm. Or maybe gen z are seeing women holding senior positions and saying,
56:15
well, what's the point of of of accusing us of oppressing women? Then
56:20
at this point, like here's the thing, Like feminists, you believe that
56:24
men oppress women, But as you succeed, it becomes more and more parent
56:30
that that's not the case, and they don't believe it anymore, or they're
56:34
believing it less and less because you're demonstrating that it isn't so. And yet
56:38
you still want that narrative. I wonder why you still want to keep hold
56:44
of that narrative of being oppressed even as you manage to create an upward pressure
56:51
that's creating this this this this ratio for women up top. So of of
56:55
all the women who are participating in the workforce, they are far more likely
57:00
to end up in a CEO position than in a trash collector position, whereas
57:04
for men, they are far less likely to end up in a CEO position
57:07
than a trash collector position. And you are presenting that to these young men
57:13
as oppression of women, and they're saying, I, I don't see that,
57:17
well, because it's true, And now you're saying that, oh,
57:20
no, they're just they're just threatened by strong independent women. Really, I
57:25
don't think any man is threatened by a strong independent woman who says I actually
57:30
feel like I need a man in my life and I am fine if I'm
57:35
gonna I'm gonna pay for him to stay home and take care of the kids
57:37
and fix the car. Yeah, And there's no. I don't think there's
57:40
many men who, unless you're like going into deepest darkest Greece like, who
57:47
actually would have a problem with that. They may not be that man,
57:51
they may not want to be that man, but I don't think they'd have
57:52
necessarily have a problem with that. You know who does have a problem with
57:58
that, likely friends. You know why they have a problem with that,
58:05
because if one woman actually values a man for his companionship, this is the
58:09
real slutshaming. If one woman values a man for his companionship, then they
58:15
have to look at the fact that they don't and realize that they are shallow,
58:20
selfish, materialist harpies. Yep, okay, okay. Young men's air
58:30
entering the workplace at a time when women are holding senior positions of time in
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some company's history, and it could be the reason why gen Z men are
58:37
feeling sidelined and in turn threatened by feminism. In her nineteen ninety one book
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Backlash, The Undeclared War against Women, the feminist author Susan Faludi argued that
58:45
a backlash against women's rights was a recurring phenomenon that returns every time women begin
58:51
to make some headway towards equality. That's the end of the article. Were
58:55
weird way? Is it the end of the art? Yeah, it's the
58:58
end of the article. It doesn't freaking makes sense in the context of it.
59:01
It's a weird way to end it. But they're basically saying women are
59:05
getting stuff done now and men are mad. And you know what actually that
59:08
means. Let me interpret it. When men women make progress, people question
59:13
the narrative of their oppression. And let me tell you something. Yeah,
59:15
for sure, The honest to god truth is that, on a fundamental level,
59:21
if feminism's premise is correct, its methods are ineffectual. We see that
59:28
feminism's methods are effectual, and in other words, they have affected the outcomes
59:32
that they want. Therefore, feminism's premise is wrong. It is wrong.
59:42
And what I mean by that is the feminist premise is that men have oppressed
59:45
women throughout all of time. There is no time in which men have not
59:51
oppressed women, except for maybe some mythological matriarchy in the way distant past,
59:59
which actually has been proved and not to be true. Hunter gatherer societies are
1:00:02
often more patriarchal. Okay, so men have lost women throughout all of human
1:00:09
history. And somehow in the seventies women or even the eighteen hundred somewhere,
1:00:17
women were like, stop doing that, and men said, okay, So
1:00:23
somehow they invented men caring about women. No, if an entire if thousands
1:00:32
of generations of men being in relationships being raised by women didn't shift oppression,
1:00:39
a bunch of women with placards isn't going to do fuck or all to shift
1:00:45
it. So if feminism's premise is correct, their methods would be ineffectual,
1:00:52
and yet they weren't. It did shift it. And if you imagine,
1:00:58
all women had to do was march. Well, actually they did march multiple
1:01:01
times throughout human history. In almost every empire that I've studied, every civilization
1:01:07
I've studied, there have been periods of times where women took to the streets
1:01:09
and changed political opinions period. So this is not new. Feminism is not
1:01:16
new. Marching in the streets to get what you want is not new to
1:01:21
women, right, Feminism's premise that women were oppressed women could couldn't for some
1:01:27
reason, They never thought to ask for what they wanted from men, and
1:01:31
the men suddenly just started to give it to them. Now it's it's bullshit.
1:01:37
And again, if feminist premises were correct, if men really oppressed women,
1:01:43
then feminism's methods would have been ineffectual. Simply asking for them to change
1:01:47
would have been ineffectual. And this is not the same as a racial divide,
1:01:53
because generally white people are not raised by black people, and where they
1:01:57
were, you do actually see the anesis of sympathy. But even more,
1:02:05
that whole conversation appealed to a greater religious narrative about the nature of freedom and
1:02:13
the human soul. Most abolitionist efforts were Christian in nature, all right,
1:02:20
So that's a red herring. What we're talking about is two groups of people
1:02:24
with the most intimate relationship on the planet. And if men women couldn't get
1:02:29
men to care about them by raising them. When we could get an animal
1:02:34
that ate us, wolves that would hunt and eat us, we could turn
1:02:39
that animal into one that lives to please us. And yet, yeah,
1:02:47
we could do that, and yet in multiple like so much more time,
1:02:54
women couldn't turn men, couldn't raise them to care about them. We could
1:03:00
raise a wolf to care about us, to become a dog, but women
1:03:02
couldn't raise men. Who are you know for some reason mother nature put men
1:03:10
there? Usually when mother nature does something like that, it's for the survival
1:03:15
of the species, which means men must have some benefit for women. But
1:03:19
no, women couldn't raise men to care about women in all of human history.
1:03:24
But feminism finally figured out the one thing that get men to actually care
1:03:30
about their issues. Cardboard signs. Yep, being really strident, asking have
1:03:37
you considered ladies, have you asked considered asking more bitually, you know,
1:03:43
being more of a bitch about it? Yeah? Bullshit? Okay, all
1:03:49
right, I'm done with my screen. I got a superchow. It doesn't
1:03:52
have any message, just a message from Albatross and he is five dollars.
1:04:00
Thank you, Albatross. I don't know if you meant to say something else.
1:04:02
If you did, you can just type into the chat and tag bagelized
1:04:06
streams. And also, so that's the article. Do you guys you want
1:04:12
to look at this video? That's what we're gonna do all the game.
1:04:16
Yeah, let's play some Bingo. Let's let's see how far we get.
1:04:19
Okay, but I can't see the Bingo card. Yeah. I can't show
1:04:23
the Bingo card and this at the same time. But I sent them to
1:04:26
you. Oh, so they're in the discord. You can look at him
1:04:29
in there. Okay. Then when you see something not not on this guy,
1:04:34
this guy's the host, don't react to him. What was that case?
1:04:39
Okay, I get to play too, all right? Yeah, yeah,
1:04:42
well I guess you're gonna be driving the Bingo card and I will like
1:04:45
fill in the things when yeah, because well I'll fill it in on here
1:04:48
because I have the whiteboard thing. Yeah. But anyway, how do you
1:04:53
mean by me driving the Bingo card? What I'm saying is that you will
1:04:56
look at the Bingo card and when when they go to a person and they
1:05:00
give their they start talking. Just listen to what they're saying. And when
1:05:03
you hear something you know you think is on the card, then this reference
1:05:09
and then I will show the card on the screen and I'll fill in the
1:05:12
little thing. All right, all right, here we go. Yeah,
1:05:15
so a new poll has revealed that gen Z or gen Z don't know what
1:05:18
I'm supposed to say. I'm British. Boys and men are more likely to
1:05:23
believe that feminism has done more harm than good when compared with older respondents.
1:05:29
Oh yeah, it's gen z. Don't say Z. I don't get that.
1:05:32
Sorry, Canadians and British. All right, let's let's continue. Also
1:05:38
found that a quarter of UK males age sixteen to twenty nine believe it's harder
1:05:42
to be a man than a woman, with one in five looking favorably upon.
1:05:45
Controversial influencer Andrew Tait also agree that the phrase toxic masculinity is unhelpful.
1:05:55
So with boys, yeah, thirty seven percent, only thirty seven It should
1:06:01
be a lot higher. Yeah, I know. Well, you know what
1:06:04
the thing is is that like the gen Z has, like the boys and
1:06:08
girls have both gone through oflic education and the girls who just came out more
1:06:14
brainwashed than the boys, and some of the boys were like, I don't
1:06:15
know, this doesn't sound right, So there you go. I think that
1:06:21
it should be more that are questioning that, but yeah, there you go.
1:06:27
Is increasingly holding this view. Has feminism done more harm than good?
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Let me know your thoughts. Email me GBVS at GBS dot com, tweet
1:06:35
me at gb news and make sure you take part in our poll. But
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I'll believe those results. Shortly. Going head to ahead on this tonight,
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our author and commentator Anna Mae Mangan and YouTuber and social media influenzer Pearl Davis,
1:06:48
both of you. Thank you very much. Pearl, I'll start with
1:06:50
You's feminism done more harm than good? Especially when I'm just pausing for the
1:06:57
banana. But let's okay, so get the red pill, because I think
1:07:00
Pearl is going to talk first to get the red pill bingo card out.
1:07:02
Okay it comes to these gen z boys, Yes, yes it has.
1:07:09
Feminism really has turned into a bunch of cry baby women that want to complain
1:07:14
that we're not given equal opportunity when really women are given more opportunity than men.
1:07:19
And so yeah, I would say feminism is a hate group and it's
1:07:23
a bunch of cry baby women. Oh, I don't think that's on there.
1:07:27
I could well, there's miss injury. I mean you could you could
1:07:30
call, you could play that. We could put miss injury. No,
1:07:34
do you think strict to the strict to the if they if they use the
1:07:39
word miss injury, we fill it in. Yep. Okay, all right,
1:07:42
let's hear the other one. And would you like to come back and
1:07:45
to that baby women feminism aparently? What? No? Oh, keep going,
1:07:49
keep going, I'm good. Just make sure you not even hit them.
1:07:54
No, no, it's fine, I'll go back and look. Okay,
1:07:56
I think I think that qualifies. Oh, write lad with us today?
1:08:01
Right lad? In this this patriarchy we use, we use lads as
1:08:05
a peragative. Eh yeah, Joradi, thank you, Brian. Okay,
1:08:12
it's okay, all right, that's key explaining dictionary, explaining You've got a
1:08:16
right lad with us tonight, with Pearl in her opinions, haven't we How
1:08:19
could it possibly do harm Pearl? Wouldn't? I hope you vote, assume
1:08:24
you do. I hope you're not chained to the kitchen sink at home.
1:08:28
Okay, wait, that's gotta be on there, right, No, it's
1:08:30
not wait you there's get in the kitchen. Get in the yes, yeah,
1:08:36
yeah, that's that is probably is that okay, okay, we're gonna
1:08:40
we're gonna mark, Yeah, get in the kitchen. A lot of various
1:08:45
ways of get back in the Yeah, there are a few ways to say
1:08:46
that. Chain to the kitchen. I probably could have put chained to the
1:08:49
stove down. Of course, of course you would say that, Oh I
1:08:54
got to leave this, oh ship the whiteboard stays the same. No,
1:09:00
it's okay, it's fine, all right. I'm not sure if you've got
1:09:04
a job, so I don't know very much about you, but you're there's
1:09:09
a bloke doing the same thing as you. You're probably earning less in him.
1:09:11
So, of course feminism is something that first place. Oh the wage
1:09:15
gap, Oh right, of course, yes, okay, so wage gap,
1:09:20
that's two not making a thing across though. No, I'm not not
1:09:26
doing that. We were, And it's patriarchy. Patriarchy, No, I
1:09:32
don't know, I don't know. I don't know. If she says that
1:09:34
let's keep going, okay, let's keep going, still doing a power of
1:09:38
good, it's just wingy men. Actually I changed that. They're lads,
1:09:43
they're not men who are probably devotees and Andrew Tate who extol this, and
1:09:47
it's it's really it's pathetic and it's a shame, is there? What can
1:09:58
you go back a bit? Like you should put put Andrew Tait in feminist
1:10:00
bingo? Now you know I was trying not to do that, but oh
1:10:04
yeah, I guess away from it. Okay, yeah, I got it.
1:10:08
Yeah, go back a bit because she she's really just gathering guns these
1:10:12
insults, because that's all she does. Go back a bit, all right,
1:10:16
I did go back a little. Let me go back more here.
1:10:18
Not sure if you've got a job, so I don't know very much about
1:10:21
you, but you're probably it's a bloke doing the same thing as you.
1:10:24
You're probably earning less in him. So of course feminism is something that it
1:10:28
got us in their place. Yeah, we got the way. It got
1:10:32
us something. It's still doing a power of good. It's just wingy men
1:10:36
wouldn't. Actually I changed that. They're lads. They're not men who are
1:10:42
so they're not men, they're just they're just boys. Okay, So that
1:10:45
was a that was an insult to any men that, like, I guess
1:10:48
you don't feel you really need you need a specific British feminist bingo card.
1:10:56
Yeah, I guess I was just sort of throwing feminist like that. The
1:11:00
appeal to laddishness, anything to do with laddie should have been on here.
1:11:05
Yeah, that would have been, but that would have filled the whole thing
1:11:08
really quick. Yeah, probably a right to devotees of Andrew Tate who extol
1:11:15
this, and it's it's really it's pathetic and it's a shame that their intellects
1:11:18
aren't as big as their mouths. Oh wait, is that a small PP
1:11:25
joke? It's you know, they say their intellect isn't as big as their
1:11:30
mouths. But even though these guys are not talking at all, they're all
1:11:32
completely silent. They don't even talk about this stuff like Andrew Tate talks about
1:11:36
it some like and I don't like again, I think he talks about it
1:11:43
in the most not very useful way. But you know, but the people
1:11:49
the you know what that I'm not even going to talk about that, the
1:11:53
young men who have this problem aren't talking about it. Do you hear them?
1:11:59
Well, it's just like if they do, women like this come after
1:12:01
them. Yeah, okay, okay, bulldogs, all right, okay,
1:12:06
I think that this does qualify it as a miss indury mysery doesn't real though,
1:12:11
Oh yeah, okay, uhsy doesn't real. Oh that's okay, not
1:12:16
quite, not quite a filling the thing yet. But yeah, we have
1:12:21
great culture, toxic masculinity. Man'splaining the CEOs. That's not that's not there.
1:12:29
So all right, let's listen to more last feminism accomplished in the last
1:12:34
hundred years. I mean that's oh I should have you know what I should
1:12:43
have put on here is google it because that's like a big feminist you you
1:12:46
need to educate yourself. Should have been on the list. Yeah, we
1:12:50
need, like, next time we do this, we need to have like
1:12:54
a randomizer feminist bingo. Yeah, and then everybody needs to play this game,
1:13:00
just us, all of you guys need I'd like that. I have
1:13:01
to figure out how to do it, but yeah, I would like that.
1:13:04
Yeah, okay, let's start with the pot start with education opportunities.
1:13:15
But oh oh, you didn't have the vote in here, not firm feminists
1:13:23
because they take that as a given. But I do have I do have
1:13:26
any of the red pill because I figured like Pearl might say repeal the nineteenth,
1:13:30
but I don't know. Yeah, you know, to be honest,
1:13:33
I think that the fun in this is mostly the feminism Bingo so yeah,
1:13:39
and they always bring up the freaking vote. Yeah, they act like they
1:13:43
like they saved women's lives with that one. Honestly, that the thing is
1:13:47
that the thing is that these are the phrases that we have, and any
1:13:53
Bingo card we wouldn't get all the phrases. So yeah, I just have
1:13:57
to with the ones that we got here. But yeah, the vote needs
1:14:00
to be in there. Yeah I should I should have added that. You
1:14:06
know what, guys, tell us what you would add to the feminist Bengo
1:14:13
cards so we can enrich this activity and you can maybe put it in the
1:14:16
comments. You can send that to Badger at feed the Badger dot com,
1:14:21
Badger at feedbadger dot com, just send it. Tell us what else I
1:14:25
should put in the Bengo card. I think that's okay for this one,
1:14:29
because you know, like whenever you have a Bingo card, you're not going
1:14:30
to have everything. It's just like there's so many good ones that are just
1:14:33
flying past. Yeah, okay, and this I just mark this one.
1:14:45
Did wage gap? He doesn't real just making a note of it. Uh
1:14:54
wage gap. Yeah, and there was like one get in the kitchen,
1:14:58
got that one. Uh man's planning, No dogeny, no pick me?
1:15:03
Was that well she didn't call her No, not yet. No. No.
1:15:08
I don't think you're going to get that from a British feminist. Yeah,
1:15:11
but she may surprise us. Let's keep going. Women has an STD
1:15:15
One out of three women has had an abortion. Forty percent of children are
1:15:18
born into single parent homes. Women didn't have the right to abortion until they
1:15:25
fought hard for it. So that's that. You can strike that one off
1:15:28
your list. Women's right to choose. Oh yeah, that's right, Women's
1:15:31
right to choose. Okay, that's right here. Uh oh and also probably
1:15:38
we should also get just about equality. It's about equality, yeah, of
1:15:42
course, common sense common sense stuff. Has she done an appeal to common
1:15:46
sense? No? I mean, let's keep that one. BLI like,
1:15:49
let's keep that one blank. Okay, can keep going. Well, women,
1:15:54
women, But why is that a good thing? Why is that a
1:15:58
good thing that now we're aborting our children, we have STDs? Would you
1:16:01
like to be in charge your body? Pearl, yourself or a man or
1:16:04
some man, some unknown man at some politician. What what are you talking
1:16:09
about? Say that again? Sorry broke up. You talked about abortion.
1:16:15
I mean, isn't abortion a woman's rights and they had to fight hard for
1:16:18
that? Do you women's right to choose? We did that one, right,
1:16:21
yeah, we did. This is the women's right to choose a part
1:16:25
of the discussion away from them, right, No, I don't think women
1:16:30
have the right to kill their children. Now, well, I don't know
1:16:33
where you are, what cage you're locked up in, but you're you're like
1:16:35
in what central you're living? Okay, Okay, I think what cage are
1:16:41
you living in? Honestly, I think that qualifies. That should be the
1:16:45
same spirit as pick me. But it's not thrown out some she's thrown out
1:16:50
some ripe ones here. Well, she's English, so she's doing it in
1:16:56
a new way, a new not new to any other Brits that might be
1:17:01
watching. They probably all heard this. Yeah she's really I mean, is
1:17:04
this like a real person? Is this like that woman that used to come
1:17:08
on like Fox sometimes and be the progressive that would just make like the insane
1:17:14
like counter argument? Is she fake? This is a real person. Okay,
1:17:18
So should I do the pick me or no? No, let's let's
1:17:24
keep it legit all right, Okay, we'll try and keep it. I'll
1:17:27
tell you is disingenuous. Women have never been locked up in a cage.
1:17:30
You know. The first female property owner was in the sixteen hundreds. It
1:17:34
was earlier than that. Women have always been able to work if they wanted.
1:17:39
I think she means maybe she means in the States, but that woman
1:17:42
was black too. Top of that, by the way, in the sixteen
1:17:45
hundred, Yeah, because political movement. Yeah, go ahead. There have
1:17:50
been women property owners since there was property. Yes, which itself the concept
1:17:58
of property requires the ability to enforce its ownership, which itself requires people who
1:18:04
are willing to protect their property and the property of others. Yep, I
1:18:11
see. Property rights had to evolve, and property rights are the basis for
1:18:15
a lot of our other concept of other rights. So it's funny when I
1:18:19
listened to communists talk about rights without talking about the fundment, like property rights
1:18:26
were the most fundamental rights, and they from property rights came everything else.
1:18:31
All right, let's let's keep going, all right, all right, men,
1:18:35
that women have been allowed to be a part of this idea that women
1:18:39
were somehow oppressed in the past and just had no rights. It's not true.
1:18:43
The reason that women didn't vote was because I'm hearing women are all right,
1:18:47
I think there's a couple that I think there's a couple of you.
1:18:51
I think there's a couple you can do. You want me to do the
1:18:54
other ahead, Okay, all right, let's let's let me get the red
1:18:58
pill. I don't want to do the track con. I don't think that's
1:19:00
going to come into play with this one. No, there's a guy that
1:19:02
comes on later that's got I think he has a couple of He might not
1:19:08
fill the bingo card though. Okay, women should be repealed. A ninth,
1:19:15
men do all the champers. Women have never been oppressed. There you
1:19:19
go, oh yeah, there we go. Yeah, that's right. That
1:19:21
is one. And I would also say that men die in war too because
1:19:25
of the draft. Yepy in war. Okay, okay, okay, let's
1:19:30
go all right, let's get back to this. So they have less opportunity
1:19:34
to buy a proper There are very few women at the top. There are
1:19:42
oh, my CEOs, my CEOs, where is that one? Is that
1:19:47
the bottom corner bottom feminist bingo. Yeah, yeah, there we go right
1:19:53
there? Wow, man, like old she only needs like two three there,
1:19:58
it's it's close. You could get it. She probably will with fifty
1:20:04
percent of the population, and we should be equally represented and women like you.
1:20:09
I don't even think just about equality, would you? Yeah? Just
1:20:13
about equality? There we got me. Okay, yeah, I already I
1:20:17
already got that one. But you are your should be living in twenty twenty
1:20:24
four? But then maybe it's just kick is that? Is that your job?
1:20:30
All right? And I think that Okay, guys, do you think
1:20:33
that qualifies this pick me? I think that does that qualify as a pick
1:20:36
me? Yeah, let's let's throw it to the chat. Tell us if
1:20:41
that qualifies this pick me? All right. I'm gonna wait and see if
1:20:44
they say anything. So what was it that she said? Just a paraphrase?
1:20:49
Uh? She said, okay, God, it's really different her because
1:20:57
she's like she's like a pigeons strutting across a and just picking. They're saying,
1:21:01
yes, but let's let's go back a teeny bit and living in twenty
1:21:06
four? Is that you? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pick
1:21:15
me? All right? Yeah, I think that's pick me. I think
1:21:17
we're going to put that. So she just needs to call someone a misogynist
1:21:23
and then she wins. Or she has to mention grape culture and she wins,
1:21:29
or she has to make fun of the size of somebody's manhood. So
1:21:32
if she does any of those things, she wins. I feel like this
1:21:40
is like inevitable. All right, let's let's keep going. It's all right,
1:21:45
come back to that, and then we will actually bring in a gen
1:21:48
z man for or all of this as well. Go on, pell,
1:21:51
come back to that. Then man eighty eight percent of the food supply,
1:21:57
ninety three percent of the power grid, ninety five percent of men do all
1:22:00
the dangerous seventy eight percent of material production, eighty percent of software. Do
1:22:06
you know what women lead in? What jobs? School teachers, secretary and
1:22:12
childcare workers? Basically what they would have done at the home. Don't don't
1:22:15
forget only fans model. Okay, so how many of these do I fill
1:22:20
out? Men do all the dangerous jobs. I just want to point something
1:22:26
out. Women do all the jobs that they would have done at home.
1:22:29
Yeah, they do, including being sexy, except now they do it in
1:22:33
such a way that we aren't actually producing families or a future. Okay,
1:22:38
men do all the dangerous jobs. Men keep the country running. All right,
1:22:46
let's see. That's all I see. But there were yeah, I
1:22:50
think so. Really she's she's coming up the rear. There, she's coming
1:22:55
up the rear. He is, she might pull it off. I don't
1:22:57
know why I got this big fat line. Do anything about it? Right?
1:23:04
What about having children? Childway and caring responsibility? Okay? Wait wait
1:23:10
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. Why are you appealing to what women
1:23:13
did before to explain why women should be in the work pace place and not
1:23:21
doing that thing? It's like, well, okay, so how did this?
1:23:26
How honestly this is these conversations they devolve into nonsense so quickly. So
1:23:31
Pearl is basically saying, well, men do this important thing, this important
1:23:34
thing, this important thing, and the work that women do in the workplace
1:23:38
is not equivalent because men are basically running a society. And this woman's responding
1:23:42
with, well, what women raise children? Well, not when they're in
1:23:45
the workplace. So how can you appeal to the thing that women don't do
1:23:49
when they're in the workplace to justify that they're contributing as much to then justify
1:23:56
them being in the workplace. Like I mean, I personally don't have any
1:24:01
authoritative, authoritarian prescriptions about how people should arrange their lives, but I would
1:24:08
appreciate some logical sense from this woman. Mm hmmm. I feel like I'm
1:24:15
asking too much, though, Okay, a sense. I wouldn't say that
1:24:21
it is worth as much money as running the entire infrastructure of society, the
1:24:27
market. I'm just going to get straw man. Guys, guys, guys,
1:24:41
poor this poor guy trying to control these women patriarchy. Yeah, yeah,
1:24:46
I know why he just why didn't he just like fucking put his foot
1:24:49
down and put these women in line? Oh? Because he doesn't actually have
1:24:54
that kind of power that they're claiming he has. He has to wait,
1:24:58
Okay, why didn't he put them in his thrall? Yeah? Why didn't
1:25:01
he just use his thrall? Pie? I guess it's not good over his
1:25:05
like internet connection. I think that me Tarzan are me Jane U Tarzan is
1:25:12
a straw man. Oh yeah, I think it qualifies. And incidentally,
1:25:17
wouldn't Jane have been like the one who had the education you do how to
1:25:24
read? Jane? Yeah? I don't know about the original story, but
1:25:28
in the Disney one, she was the educated one. Yeah, I mean
1:25:30
it would have been probably in the original story too, because she was coming
1:25:32
from an actual civilization. But honestly, this woman probably only knows about the
1:25:36
Disney version you should have. Why does she have a problem with that?
1:25:43
Like, the woman has all of the you know, the social know how
1:25:46
and the education and the knowledge of a world outside of the jungle, and
1:25:51
the dude is just really really tough, you know, yeah, as God
1:25:57
intended it. Good lord, all right, let's let's all right. But
1:26:03
my point is that she's presenting this like the man is in charge and yet
1:26:08
the woman has like has so many advantages. That's what I'm getting at.
1:26:14
Do you really get me me, jane U Tarzan? Does that really articulate
1:26:18
to? Uh? I don't know, man in power and woman submissive?
1:26:30
Like that doesn't make sense to anyway. Okay, I'm over analyzing. Let's
1:26:32
keep go. That's all right, Okay, say what to say? Good
1:26:35
good? I was just going to bring in, going to bring in please
1:26:44
please, let's ladies, let's stop often we want to talk about these issues
1:26:47
and then we talk about you know, women's issues and we get two blokes
1:26:50
talking about it, and then you know, it all looks a bit much
1:26:54
and we've got right and commentation. Con Tomlinson, Wait a minute, Wait
1:26:57
a minute. So if you get two dudes talking about women's issues but he
1:27:00
appreciate that's weird. I thought we live in a patriarchy. Huh weird.
1:27:05
It's funny how patriarchy didn't just use its power. Yeah. I thought that
1:27:10
men could just talk about women's issues like without because that's what a patriarchy is.
1:27:15
But this guy is like literally acknowledging the reality, which is like,
1:27:19
yeah, women actually do have power in this society and always have Yep,
1:27:27
okay, good. I believe Connor, you are classed as a gen Z
1:27:31
man, I think, right, yeah, ninety eight, So I'm like
1:27:34
one of the Zennials. I went to school before phones, so I one
1:27:36
of the more weather Connor, I'll be really honest with you, I don't
1:27:40
really know what any millennials or gen Z thing really means, but basically,
1:27:44
young men are now thinking that feminism has gone too far, and then actually
1:27:47
men have a worse time. It's harder to be a man than a woman.
1:27:50
Where are you on this well, I'm not surprised that they find feminisms
1:27:55
of radioactivity repugnant because listening to anime in the last conversation, I just thought
1:28:00
tuning out because I just sold the same plastitudes that I hear from every institution
1:28:04
that denigrates some accomplishment as some Okay, okay, wait, dude, those
1:28:09
word platitudes. At least it's not as I understand the word, because I
1:28:15
understand the word is like sort of vacuous but vaguely positive. That was this
1:28:20
was outright abuse. Yeah, yeah, I think what he means is it
1:28:28
means I think really like used up and tired talking point, like the same
1:28:31
old buzzwords and talking point, and I mean, considering she almost filled her
1:28:36
Bengo card. Yeah, that is what it was. But I think that
1:28:41
maybe platitude is the wrong word for it. Yeah, Like platitude is a
1:28:46
remark or statement, especially one with a moral content. I'm not sure that
1:28:50
her statements had any moral content besides I'm good, you're bad. Yeah,
1:28:57
let me guess that is moral content, but it seems like a very self
1:29:00
serving amount of moral content anyway, let's uh yeah, all right, yeah,
1:29:06
sort of emissary of toxic patriarchy. Meanwhile, men are actively discriminated against
1:29:12
with preferential hiring policies under the Equalities Act or Frontive Action the United States.
1:29:16
They're discriminated against in family courts, leading too many men growing up without a
1:29:20
father in certain communities is up to seventy percent. About nearly fifty percent of
1:29:25
children in the UK grew up between two households, often without their father present.
1:29:29
It's not very good for young men either. And then, on top
1:29:30
of all that, when they are bottom of the achievement pile four colleges picked
1:29:34
last for various jobs because of preferential hiring, again they're told that even if
1:29:39
they stick them a head above the parapet and complain, weren't they just being
1:29:42
misogynistic? So it's not make sure we don't run of foul. Yeah,
1:29:46
I know, I know, I don't really see. Yeah, this is
1:29:50
all like red pill talking points. It is he's actually saying something. I
1:29:55
mean, they're basically like they're like one oh one, like red pill one
1:29:59
o one talking point. I would say boys are treated like girls in schools.
1:30:02
Good one male suicide I think he got ah, yes, well no
1:30:06
he didn't say the suicide, but he did say fatherlessness. Okay, fatherlessness.
1:30:12
Ah, yeah, so fatherlessness he mentioned. Uh, I would have
1:30:20
just had more of a general discrimination in education, because boys are treated like
1:30:26
girls in schools is very specific. I guess what I mean. That's what
1:30:29
I mean by that. I just figured, you know, discrimination education.
1:30:32
I would I would effective girls like defective girls. Yeah, boys are treated
1:30:36
like defection. I get what you're saying. I think that would be we
1:30:40
could cross that one off to okay, I did. All right, all
1:30:44
right, almost the red pill almost wins. Shocking. Get frustrated by this,
1:30:48
but I will say one quick thing if I may, And I appreciate
1:30:51
that the poll has said here. The pole is part of the cohort of
1:30:56
new inheritors of the manuscript Mantle who say that they want to speak men.
1:31:00
This is like Fresh and Fit and whatever podcasts and the like. The problem
1:31:02
with this is is that it's kind of weaponizing male resentment and it's not teaching
1:31:06
them to be responsible. Oh, there we go, there we go.
1:31:12
There's the trad con ship. I was waiting for. Okay, men's response,
1:31:16
men's responsibility. Yeah, let me see, Uh, weaponizing men's resentment.
1:31:23
I don't know. There's maybe there's I think a bus sides here is
1:31:27
right here? Yeah, both sides, yes, both sides yes? Oh
1:31:30
shit, okay yeah, both sides right. Let me see what else women
1:31:35
are not responsible? Well, basically he doesn't say that yet. Okay,
1:31:41
let's see if he does, because he looks like he's moving towards it.
1:31:45
Corporate job and get a harem of women out in Dubai and intimidate them into
1:31:48
being attracted to you, just like Andrew take. I don't think it's helpful.
1:31:51
Oh shit, hurts women too. Yeah, the red pill is badly
1:31:58
he's really coming up behind with the with the out of the blue. What
1:32:02
else do I have to say? Does it women most affected? Because that's
1:32:08
one of the well I guess when when trad cons stuck. When trad cons
1:32:12
start talking about the red pill right and they they have like a negative attitude
1:32:16
toward it. Usually comes from a place of saying this is bad because it
1:32:21
hurts women, like we should do something about this. But my fear is
1:32:28
it's like more right wing backlash. Like my fear is that like I don't
1:32:31
want to do anything about it until it looks like women might be in danger.
1:32:34
Now I want to step in there and like, you know, forget
1:32:38
all the suicides, Forget all the workplace deaks. Forget about the guys that
1:32:41
don't can't see their children. Forget about the guys who get destroyed in divorce
1:32:44
court. Forget about the guys who are me too. Forget about the guys
1:32:46
who go to jail, like you know, for crimes they didn't commit because
1:32:49
women accused them of shit. Forget about all of that. I'm not I
1:32:53
don't see it. I don't see it. I don't see it. Then
1:32:55
suddenly some men are like, you know what, I'm really angry about this,
1:32:59
and and I'm gonna go watch like a red pill influencer that's basically gonna
1:33:01
tell me something that you know, will help me understand what's going on.
1:33:04
Oh wait a minute, that might hurt women. I got to step in
1:33:06
now like that, you know. And And it's not to not to fix
1:33:10
any of these problems, not to fix any of these problems, not to
1:33:14
fix these legal problems, not to fix the political problems, but only because
1:33:17
I don't. I just want the men to stop being angry at the women.
1:33:20
Mmm. Oh yeah, I mean that's that's what that's the Connor position
1:33:25
from what I and there's no realize, there's no recognition that the red pill
1:33:28
is actually what and I can I'm actually thinking of doing a solo video putting
1:33:32
it on the channel that just goes through Hannah Cock's and explains how she demonstrates
1:33:39
that the red pill is in response to women's attitude towards relationships that have gone
1:33:45
from some of us, you know, coming together and working to overcome what
1:33:50
life throws you at you and through whatever means you can together into a combative
1:33:59
uh, basically a war zone. Well turn turning the turning relationships into a
1:34:02
battlefield of antagonism, right, yeah, that yeah. Hannah Cox demonstrates by
1:34:10
saying that this is the ideal approach for a woman, and this is something
1:34:14
that other people didn't pick up about what she was saying, you know,
1:34:16
and she apparently doesn't pick up about what she's saying, And she's basically pointing
1:34:21
to a woman who has who sees relationships is a battlefield as the ideal approach
1:34:29
to a relationship, and it's like, well, the red pill is in
1:34:32
response to that, and that is directly downstream of feminism, making the relationship
1:34:40
between men and women out to be one of oppression. Like when you when
1:34:44
you say that men want to oppress women, when you say this, so
1:34:46
fun you you you you turn in women's minds, relationships into battlefields. And
1:34:54
the red pill is in response to that. You know, they're that they're
1:34:58
they're trying to navigate a war world in which they don't really have a companionate
1:35:02
relationship with women. They end up in a battle with them. And here's
1:35:08
the other thing. By presenting relationships in these terms, women think that this
1:35:14
is normal. And see the other thing. I was like listening to this
1:35:15
woman, I'm like, you're doing a fricking lot of work there. Like
1:35:19
I wouldn't do that work. I just kicked the guy out of my life.
1:35:23
He's not like if you are looking at your relationship with a man or
1:35:28
anyone in terms of, you know, staying detached, you know, centering
1:35:31
yourself emotionally avoiding becoming a victim of him, and like, why are you
1:35:38
even engaging with this person if you are framing it in terms of victimhood and
1:35:42
you're framing it in terms of well I can thrive and grow despite him,
1:35:46
Well, why do you have him in your life if he doesn't help you
1:35:49
thrive and grow, if he doesn't protect you from being a victim, if
1:35:54
he doesn't like make your life easier in some way. It doesn't mean you
1:35:59
have to become told dependent on him, but there's a concept of codependence.
1:36:03
And when you choose somebody who is a net benefit to your life in a
1:36:06
companionate way, then you're not having these these thoughts about him. You're not
1:36:12
like, oh, I'm not gonna let him turn me into a victim.
1:36:14
I'm gonna remain detached and independent and I'm gonna thrive without him. Like what
1:36:18
what kind of relationship? How who talks about their relationships in those terms?
1:36:24
And it makes women think that that's normal, that that's all they're gonna get
1:36:28
from a man, which paradoxically makes them tolerate bullshit that they don't really they
1:36:32
really shouldn't, like this is and this is the problem. Like I see
1:36:38
these redpill guys who are like, you know, well, this is this
1:36:40
is the this is the attitude women bring to relationships. We're gonna have to
1:36:45
play this game. We're gonna have to trigger these patterns, these thought patterns,
1:36:48
and actually, you know, you're you're gonna try to retain your sense
1:36:53
of decency while triggering these thought, these these particular patterns that make her that
1:37:00
you're desirable. Well, yeah, wouldn't it be good for men who are
1:37:03
basically decent to learn how to become desirable to women in the same way these
1:37:08
dark triad alpha assholes are because ultimately, if they can do that, then
1:37:14
maybe we have a chance in having some people form relationships. And yet the
1:37:18
trag cons are like, oh my god, what to wh wah wah wah
1:37:21
what you have a problem with that? Yep, you have a problem.
1:37:26
Well, okay, the only way you can't go at men and say,
1:37:30
well, you're responding to the situation as it is and developing strategies to deal
1:37:34
with it. That's what men do. Yes, if you want to change
1:37:38
the situation, you got to go to women and say, hey, what
1:37:42
the hell, lady exactly? And I don't see them doing that, but
1:37:45
but yeah they're not. But but how how could they change anything? Don't
1:37:50
you know literally just maybe one hundred or so years ago, one hundred and
1:37:57
such a few years ago that women were still viewed as chattel. Yeah,
1:38:02
I think there's an echo on that, No, is there, I don't
1:38:05
hear it. I hear it. Maybe they do think, yeah, guys,
1:38:10
send us a message of you still guys, do you still hear the
1:38:12
echo on that? Yeah, well hopefully you did. Maybe it's just me,
1:38:15
but anyway, my point is that the only people who are calling women
1:38:21
out is us. As far as I can tell, I don't see this
1:38:25
with the with the more centrist or traditionalist, or I don't even leave in
1:38:30
liberty them. Okay, good, then it's just me. Great, perfect
1:38:34
women were still viewed as chattel. Okay, okay, go ahead, I'm
1:38:41
sorry, all right, I'm just saying that the only people who are pointing
1:38:45
this out is us. Have you noticed that, like we're saying, okay,
1:38:50
if you want to change this, men are reacting to women because that's
1:38:56
what men do. Women present what they want and how they want it,
1:39:01
and men figure out how to do it. That's what the red pillars are
1:39:04
doing. They're reacting to women. It's women who are bringing this attitude of
1:39:10
combat to a relationship. And if you are gonna have any any partnerships at
1:39:16
all, then the average man, the average decent men, needs to be
1:39:20
able to navigate that attitude of combat. So eventually she he can I don't
1:39:28
know, defeat the Amazon queen and and grab her girdle and marrier wife or
1:39:34
who god knows what. But at least there's a chance. But if you're
1:39:40
just going after men for doing this, it's like, no, that's not
1:39:44
that you got the causality reversed. And honestly, the only way that this
1:39:49
is gonna work. And again, what do trad cons expect from men to
1:39:55
go to a woman and hit her over the head with the club and drag
1:39:58
her back to their cave. They have to play the game on women's terms.
1:40:01
Well, well, yeah, I mean, women have the apparatus at
1:40:05
their disposal. It's like Mike sol cartoon about the bazuka. Oh what are
1:40:10
you gonna do? They have the bazuka? You know, yeah, they
1:40:13
have to play the game on women's terms. And these are the terms being
1:40:16
set. And the fact that you find it distasteful, well okay, I
1:40:20
know your instinct when you find something distasteful is to find the nearest man to
1:40:25
blame, but that's not what's going on here. The only way to change
1:40:29
this is to change women's attitude towards men, which means you got to kick
1:40:35
out the feminism. Yep, and part of the way to do that is
1:40:40
to realize there was no oppression in the past. Women always worked, women
1:40:44
always participated hell for most of most of the history, prior to us having
1:40:48
police and a judicial system that made it out actual punishment, Like that's something
1:40:55
we had to earn through excess productivity. There was no way we could have
1:40:59
paid for a penals system two hundred three hundred years ago. You know how
1:41:02
they dealt with that, well, maybe two hundred and three hundred, you
1:41:05
know, like four hundred and five hundred years ago, post Renaissance, you
1:41:09
know how they dealt with things. They would find people for engaging in crimes,
1:41:14
which itself was a evolution away from what happened before, which was the
1:41:21
tribal conflict like honor based Siza society, in which if you aggressed or you
1:41:28
did something against one tribe, the other tribe was had themselves. They would
1:41:32
have to take redress. They would have to For example, if you killed
1:41:35
their son, they would kill your son. You know, if you raped
1:41:40
their daughter, they would probably kill the guy who raped it, and a
1:41:43
couple of men raped her and other men in the tribe. Right, this
1:41:46
would be they would have to deal with any kind of harm or what we
1:41:53
would consider crime in terms of them, you know, all the men in
1:41:57
their tribe coming to arms and taking it out of them men of the other
1:42:00
tribe. That's how they dealt with injustices. It was an honor based culture,
1:42:05
right, Yeah. Then we evolved into a fine based culture in which
1:42:12
people would accept a fine in exchange for you know, lynching basically, So
1:42:18
now they would go to a judge. Judge would say, okay, this
1:42:21
this, They owe you this much for killing your son, They owe you
1:42:25
this much for killing your daughter. They owe you this much for raping your
1:42:28
daughter. It wasn't an issue of property. It was that they were moving
1:42:31
away from this endless cycles of reprisal, which is what these these tribal these
1:42:38
honor based tribal systems create, endless cycles of reprisal. Oh yeah, maybe
1:42:44
maybe our son raped your daughter, but you killed ten of our our women.
1:42:47
Therefore you you we need to go kill twenty of your people. And
1:42:53
then on and on and on and on and on. It would go for
1:42:56
generations, creating a situation that you couldn't create prosperity because there was this constant
1:43:01
conflict. So they changed that. They made it a fine based system.
1:43:05
They also did that way back in like the the Old Testament, right,
1:43:11
But that created a way of peaceably ending these conflicts. And then and then
1:43:15
the feminists look back at this and they're like, oh my god, they're
1:43:18
literally chattel. No, they weren't literally chattel. These were fines for crimes
1:43:27
in a time where they couldn't afford to imprison people and they didn't want to
1:43:30
start more tribal warfare, right, That's how they ended it. And they
1:43:36
don't understand any of this context. They just pick out a little bit and
1:43:40
then and then throw it out like, oh my god, oh my god,
1:43:43
you don't know a damn thing about how societies work, ladies. Shut
1:43:46
up, Okay, shut up. This was something we had to earn.
1:43:50
The penal jub the judicial system was something we had to develop over eons,
1:43:58
and the fine system was its predecessor. And again, that fine system created
1:44:02
a much more peaceful system of dealing with problems. So if if you actually
1:44:10
and honestly in that system, it was most likely, you know, lynching
1:44:15
still existed, because if you did indeed rape the daughter of another tribe,
1:44:20
you're gonna get your ass lynched. They weren't going to accept a fine.
1:44:24
But if you seduce the daughter seduced the daughter of another tribe, they might
1:44:28
accept a fine and the expectation that you marry her right, okay. And
1:44:32
throughout this system of fines, of using fines to punish crimes, guess what
1:44:42
women, In many places, if you killed a woman, you owed more
1:44:45
money to her family than if you killed a man. So the crime of
1:44:53
killing a woman the crime of fate. They actually knew. They actually differentiated
1:44:59
the crime of ki killing a woman as worse than the crime of killing a
1:45:02
man in many places, as far as as far as I know, according
1:45:06
to the Encyclopeated Encyclopedia Britannica, in every place or most places where there was
1:45:14
Saxon law and there and they're the idea that the the weird weregeld existed,
1:45:18
so they actually came down harder on people who killed women. Throughout the history
1:45:25
in which men hated women and oppressed them and treated them like chattel, and
1:45:30
they're using that, They're using the fact that if you killed a woman,
1:45:33
you owed more, you were punished more, as evidence that women were treated
1:45:38
as lesser. Are you fucking kidding me? Are you. Okay, we
1:45:45
should get back to our bingo. Oh yeah, right, there's a vesicat
1:45:50
I got. I got a super Well, we can make that its own
1:45:54
video. I think I got a super chat from ZARANX. He gave us
1:45:57
five bucks and said. What else In just said is what Connor is familiar
1:46:00
with but he doesn't know. Is Paul Elam's point that I had Brian Reid
1:46:04
from super Chow on August fourteenth, twenty twenty three. I totally remember that.
1:46:11
Not Richard Bierre then gives us a super chow and for five dollars and
1:46:16
says tribal honor warfare over every slight did prevent overpopulation. Though. Yeah,
1:46:21
maybe that's my Greta Thunberg about that. Maybe that's what the WEF is trying
1:46:27
to get us towards. Yeah, I spoke to fighting over the gray and
1:46:30
the last remaining silo of grain. Well, I mean they probably do stoke
1:46:33
a lot of the racial tension to try and get people killed to reduce the
1:46:38
population. I mean, I don't think that's radical at all. I could
1:46:42
totally see them doing that. But let's get back to this. Okay.
1:46:45
Look, firstly, I'm gonna go to Anna on this and then we'll and
1:46:49
then we'll let correspond to all of us. Obviously, So you heard what
1:46:54
Colin has said. That's that's Conor's lived experience, right do you do you
1:46:57
disagree with Conor's lived experience here? Men don't have lived experience, only women
1:47:04
do. Of course I do. Only a man could make feminism about him.
1:47:11
I mean, it really is not. Oh shit, wait that you're
1:47:14
a man. It's one of the things only a man it look it is,
1:47:17
it's one of the things you see it only a manis. Okay,
1:47:24
we're almost it's almost full. It's almost full. You're Only a man can
1:47:30
make feminism about him because it's about equality, but it's also only about women.
1:47:35
Darings gives us another five dollars and says, you don't remember it.
1:47:39
That's why I mentioned the date, because I looked it up before sending a
1:47:41
super chat. You might be able to look it up. I don't know.
1:47:45
It's kind of buried in our history. It's from August. Why don't
1:47:49
you just send the actual quote? Yeah, don't send it as a superchat
1:47:56
just well, it might be too long to put in a the cat Well,
1:48:00
then do a super chow. You got plenty of room for that if
1:48:03
you want to do that, if you need the room, just don't don't
1:48:08
allude. Just just get right in there and just get Okay. Thing to
1:48:14
do with men, it's about moving women forward and men, Lord like,
1:48:17
okay, real men will welcome it. Can stop it, Oh, the
1:48:20
real men will welcome it. Oh I should have put real men on there
1:48:25
that that would have been good. Okay, let me let me okay.
1:48:29
So feminism isn't about men, but you really appeal to men in order to
1:48:35
insult people, don't you, Lady, Well you also question men's identity as
1:48:41
men, ye, by saying only a real a real man wouldn't have a
1:48:45
problem with it. Yeah, well, okay, so feminism isn't about men.
1:48:48
It just dictates what real men are like it sounds like you. Feminism
1:48:54
is about deciding what makes a good or real man. So it is about
1:49:00
men. Oh, good, lord, like this this is levels of fuck.
1:49:06
I didn't I know that. I know if I actually thought really carefully
1:49:14
about this, I could. I could dissect the two. I could dissect
1:49:19
these levels, these shifting levels of fuck, down to the very the very
1:49:24
foundation of fuck, and and present it in a logical format, which would
1:49:30
clearly illustrate how much of a destructive loon she is. But I do not
1:49:34
believe we have time for that. So let's keep going, all right,
1:49:38
Let's keep going, successing and then moving out into the world into business education.
1:49:45
You know what it is, she's just like, she's just all she
1:49:54
does is about hurtful talking points. Let's it just insult people and minimize them
1:50:00
and take away their voice. This is a feminist, folks, Like,
1:50:05
all she's done this entire freaking time is insult people and attempt to take away
1:50:12
their voice. Yeah, she's well, yes, that's what they do.
1:50:17
We can't into culture. It should all be a joint thing. So it's
1:50:24
about waitit needs everybody to get on board. So oh wait, wait wait
1:50:29
wait wait wait wait, it's about women, but it needs every So it
1:50:30
is about men because it needs men to get only so far as how they
1:50:35
can basically support feminism. They have to do the work, but they don't
1:50:41
get any man's things of men. But it's not about men, Okay,
1:50:48
Like I said, shifting layers of fuck. If I if we had the
1:50:53
time, I could dissect them down to the foundation of fuck. But we
1:50:59
don't have the time, So let's keep going. Let's finish the bingo.
1:51:02
Oh, I got a super No, wait, I already read that one.
1:51:05
I got another super child from Richard, but I guess it didn't go
1:51:09
through. He said, did you miss my superchild about the Spirit Science episode.
1:51:14
It may have been too long to transfer directly into the show chat screen.
1:51:18
I didn't see it in the live chat. But let me look in
1:51:20
the discord real quick. Oh yeah, there is something here. I'll read
1:51:25
it. It didn't show up in the chat though some reason. Let me
1:51:29
just double check it. Maybe it did nighttime. It was too big.
1:51:32
Yeah, for some reason, it didn't go through the chat. Okay.
1:51:38
So he gave us thank you for the five dollars with the super Spirit Science
1:51:43
thing, and then he gave another five before that and said, according to
1:51:46
a Spirit Science episode, on the island of Atlantis, people lived without masculine
1:51:51
oppression, where the island was in harmony with the chakra of the world and
1:51:55
the population was feminine centric and had the mentality of teenage girls until these masculine
1:52:00
types showed up from Mars, who use the device that resembles the Star of
1:52:03
David rotated into three dimensions. They brought technological gadgets and disrupted their social order,
1:52:10
and then instituted a patriarchal system. When it became pear shaped, these
1:52:15
masculine oppressors tried to use the device to escape, but because it was incorrectly
1:52:18
built, it opened up a portal to the underworld of scientology. Next time
1:52:23
you have Tildeeran to talk about occult feminism, you might want to add this
1:52:26
into the mix. What did I just read? I don't know. Okay,
1:52:33
thank you, Richard. I feel partly educated and partly really confused.
1:52:39
We did give me a little We did this episode. Maybe it was during
1:52:44
the time where you were having a bit of difficulty. It's August. No,
1:52:49
no, no, it was probably a two thousand, like guys,
1:52:56
it was probably in twenty twenty two. There was a There are some parts
1:53:00
of twenty twenty two which I think I got actually a year ago, a
1:53:06
year ago like to the almost the day I got out of the hospital.
1:53:12
So yeah, but it might have been before, like like maybe the prior
1:53:15
week or two. But I've been since doing this, I've been in the
1:53:19
hospital a couple of times. So since doing this, well, since starting
1:53:25
HBr, I've I've had cancer, and like just to give you guys an
1:53:30
idea, John or Sir Brian was very sick in twenty twenty two, and
1:53:33
I think there's a few months where the memory correct me. Yeah, I
1:53:38
have I have gaps of the memory from late twenty twenty. Yeah, so
1:53:43
the Spirit Science episode he may have not remembered. This is exactly, This
1:53:48
is exactly what was in that Spirit Science episode. Was steal Deer there for
1:53:54
that? Or or you asked me what we wasn't we? We? No?
1:53:58
I think okay, we went through it together and paper No, it
1:54:03
was a Spirit Science is a YouTube channel. Oh yeah, I don't remember.
1:54:10
I'm sorry. That's okay, all right, Let's let's keep going.
1:54:14
All right, let's keep going. What you've just said is a load of
1:54:17
nonsense, Okay, all right, Pearl. I think a lot of people
1:54:20
might think, you know, what Color has just said about you, that
1:54:23
was quiet unfair your your views on this? Well, what did he say
1:54:29
about me that was unfair? Well, I think forgive me, I don't
1:54:32
want to paraphrase it, but maybe say that was a bit of a lack
1:54:35
of authenticity like that, you know, maybe kind of pitty men against each
1:54:40
other. But I don't know if that necessarily Oh yeah, that's right.
1:54:42
Wait you seem to be so. Didn't we also have something that hit he
1:54:46
said that the red pill? What did he say that does it weaponizes male
1:54:50
resentment? Is that what you're saying with the monta the current iteration of the
1:54:55
manisphere. Yeah, and I'm just saying like it's only going to get more
1:54:59
and more of a local as if you guys keep ignoring what we're saying.
1:55:02
Yeah, so like this is you're just creating the conditions. Okay, to
1:55:10
be honest with me, pretty genuine and kowstaniob. I mean, I know
1:55:13
a lot of the guys that run these shows. These women are coming in
1:55:15
their own free will, So I don't really understand how that's like utilizing male
1:55:20
resentment. But what I actually want to do. Oh yeah, that's good,
1:55:24
No, that's true. I'm glad she said that. Man, I'm
1:55:26
really sick and tired of people saying, you know, like Sidney Watson even
1:55:30
was like, how can you how can you take advantage of these poor women
1:55:33
that are coming on the whatever. They're going there of their own free will,
1:55:36
They're going there to promote their platform, they're growing, they're going there
1:55:41
because they want to become more famous. That's why they go on there.
1:55:45
They're not stupid, they're not children, they're grown. Okay wait wait wait
1:55:49
wait, there's a red piled bingo women should be adults there you go,
1:55:55
Yeah, women should be adults? Oh the meat? Uh where? Okay,
1:56:00
women should be adults? Thank you, Pearl. I honestly think I
1:56:04
heard her say repeal the nineteenth but ha ha ha, I maybe may Okay,
1:56:10
let's just I'm not sure, but I think she didn't. She just
1:56:15
said that. All she said, what was the other woman that said that
1:56:18
you don't think the women should vote? And Pearl said that, I think
1:56:23
that women only. Do you know why women didn't have the vote? And
1:56:27
she basically said because men were conscripted? So, I mean, it's not
1:56:31
the whole story, but it's what she said. Okay, let's keep going,
1:56:35
all right? To address more importantly, why should women be propped up?
1:56:43
Why? Why do we need to be pushed forward? If you were
1:56:45
a competent woman, you have every opportunity that you could possibly have. I
1:56:49
don't need feminists to push me up because I'm smart and I do well on
1:56:54
my own, you know all, I'm hearing from feminists is a bunch of
1:56:57
excuses, a bunch of excuses. I want special privileges and special treatment that
1:57:01
I don't deserve. Okay, takes a seat back, Da da da da.
1:57:09
Well, I don't know if I see anything here. Her smug face
1:57:15
is sort of amusing. Yeah, she's a little she's got a smug face.
1:57:18
But all right, we'll get back. Let's see. I think they're
1:57:20
just wrapping it up here. All of you. That was very loud.
1:57:26
We are going to knock you on the head right now. Thank you very
1:57:29
much, all of you, really really really insightful stuff so great. So
1:57:31
who do you agree with? Okay, as research fides, that is a
1:57:35
view increasingly being held by gen z boys. How's feminism done more harm than
1:57:41
good? Tonder on ex says, the problem is, oh, well,
1:57:44
we got some people with comments. I guess we could look at some,
1:57:47
but we didn't. Nobody won. It got close. I'm honestly, I'm
1:57:51
pretty sure that at some point Pearl said that she thought we should repeal the
1:57:57
nineteenth but she was being talked over the woman. Oh yeah, that's not
1:58:01
a win though, it wouldn't it be, because she would have no no
1:58:09
she would have repealed the nineteenth top g women should be adults, men keep
1:58:12
the country running. Yeah, I guess so did she? Okay, didn't
1:58:16
mention tate not not like kind of in a indifferent way. But I'll give
1:58:21
it to you. This is the end of the video. Do you want
1:58:25
to hear what the No? No, we should get it genuinely. But
1:58:28
I'll have to I guess I'll have to say. I'll leave it up to
1:58:32
the to the audience. Do you think that the do you think that the
1:58:34
red one or did uh? Did feminist bingle win? No? No,
1:58:42
the feminist didn't win. No, she he got closed though she had.
1:58:46
Uh. If she would have said patriarchy, that would have been it.
1:58:51
Or if she would have said that Connor has a small pp or something,
1:58:55
or that men have have no penis, that that would have been That would
1:58:58
have been the victory. Right there. Okay, let's go to let's go
1:59:01
to I think she was definitely alluding to man'splainning. Oh definitely, yeah,
1:59:06
all right, Well no, that's when when when she said, well,
1:59:10
of course you're gonna have a man come here and say something whatever, like
1:59:14
men can't speak on feminism, right, Okay, all right, let's let's
1:59:17
let's look at this. How many squares got caught got chopped off there for
1:59:23
each of them, I shouldn't say chopped how many for the feminists? How
1:59:27
many you got feminists? How many? Okay, so it's sixteen squares and
1:59:30
she's got three, five, eight, nine squares, nine squares, nine
1:59:38
squares. So the last fact that she didn't get bingo was just sheer.
1:59:43
It's it was just the luck of the draw. Its just the way it
1:59:45
draw because she didn't say, well, man splating would still not be a
1:59:50
victory, but or but patriarchy would have been like patriarchy misogyny. She didn't
1:59:58
say misogyny, which is kind of amazing. So because that would have been
2:00:03
it, she would have won, or at least, like, I don't
2:00:06
know if like winning this feminist bingo is a win for the feminist because it
2:00:11
just means we know what they're gonna say, so like we do, we
2:00:15
should honestly, like we should each take a card like me and you,
2:00:18
and then we should fight against each other and steves at the end and then
2:00:23
okay, but but okay, how many isn't all bingo? Just luck?
2:00:26
Though? Okay, So sixteen wait, three, five, six, seven,
2:00:31
eight nine, and then on the red Pill Bingo we got one seven
2:00:36
eight nine, so it's a tie, and then trad con got three.
2:00:41
But I think that Connor kind of contributed to Pearls because I was kind of
2:00:46
purple pilled, so I guess that, yeah, we should probably have kept
2:00:50
it cleaner and just had him be the trad convic. Yeah, I think
2:00:54
the feminist Bingo's it's probably one that gets the most crosses. But that's because
2:00:59
again, and they're they're talking points are so predictable, so of course it's
2:01:02
gonna it's gonna fill out. Well, here's the other thing, like,
2:01:06
does red pill Bingo deserve really to be called bingo? What I mean?
2:01:13
These aren't platitudes, These are challenges to existing. Oh no, I wouldn't.
2:01:16
Yeah, I wouldn't classify them as negative, like like having I think
2:01:23
that like the stuff that you know, m ras talk about. I mean,
2:01:27
they're just real things, you know. But I just thought, well,
2:01:29
it could be fun to do multiple cards with different stuff on them.
2:01:33
So I'm just thinking about having fun, That's all I thought. It was
2:01:38
fun. Oh I got a zero, ZARANX gave us that super chowd that
2:01:41
he was probably yeah, okay, before we get into the super child.
2:01:44
So I think that we can safely say that if we if we keep Pearl
2:01:48
to her own card and the the gen z dude Connor to his own card,
2:01:56
then feminism trounced. Yeah, he's a war on everybody like usual,
2:02:01
Like it always does. In this it manages to be both the victor and
2:02:09
the victim at the same time. It's like as always, you know it
2:02:13
is. It is like the most powerful position to be. And if it
2:02:15
was like a saying somebody said, where it's like, you know, you
2:02:19
can be you can have all of the power but appear to be the weakest,
2:02:25
and that's what they do. So yeah, all right, go ahead
2:02:29
and read that. All right, here's a super child from XARANX for five
2:02:31
dollars, Thank you, zaranxx. He gives us five bucks and says,
2:02:34
red pill philosophy, at least as I understand it, reduced to its core
2:02:39
wisdom, informs us that the enemy, the real enemy, is within.
2:02:43
It's not women that get us. It's our native and mindless attachment to them.
2:02:48
It's not ginocentrism, it's our willingness to enslave ourselves by making sacricanct it's
2:02:54
crazy, dictates. It's not consumerism. It's our underdeveloped values and our things,
2:03:00
our worship of objects and the imagined status that they bring. That's the
2:03:03
beauty of red pill philosophy. It doesn't require the world to change for us
2:03:09
to reap the benefits. If we want to erase the impact of consumerism in
2:03:13
our lives, the only thing we need destroy is our credit cards. Not
2:03:16
Walmart, not Ikea, not Starbucks or Target, but the part of ourselves
2:03:21
that is foolish enough to believe and think that those things are important. Red
2:03:26
Pill men don't seek to destroy marriage. They just quit participating in it.
2:03:30
Our reaction to this stupidity of marriage is a strike, not a war.
2:03:32
Red Pill men place the onus for change where it belongs on ourselves. That
2:03:38
is the freedom. It's the only answer that was ever needed. All Eli,
2:03:42
Yeah, I don't think that this is what red pill is right now?
2:03:45
Well, I think it's men saying, you know, like I can
2:03:49
say what Paul is staying, But what red pill has evolved to be is
2:03:56
not like that sounds much more migtaw than what it seems like red pill is
2:04:00
now, yeah, well I think that red pill still wants to be able
2:04:05
to do the thing, you know, like find a partner, marry them,
2:04:11
and have children, like this is what most men want. Like that'll
2:04:14
never change and unless, you know, we want to live in a world
2:04:17
where all of that's gone and it's just savagery and like the you know,
2:04:21
the strong, the strong survive and all of that. I mean, you
2:04:26
know, men are going to try to work within a system that is civil,
2:04:30
and that's why that has to change. I mean I saw like a
2:04:32
really interesting three way was that a three way conversation between Benjamin Boyce, Andrew
2:04:42
Wilson and somebody else, some other guy but Rollo was there. It was
2:04:45
like three or four guys and they were talking about, like, you know,
2:04:49
what needs to change. I thought it was a really interesting I mean,
2:04:53
Rollo doesn't really add much, but I thought it was an interesting conversation
2:04:56
because there was a reality that they had to face, which is, no
2:04:59
matter how how like how much you man up, women are gonna women and
2:05:03
that has to be that's like the only thing that can change. And I
2:05:06
was like, yes, finally, finally you guys are getting it. It
2:05:10
doesn't matter how alpha you are. If women are are not gonna play ball,
2:05:15
it's the only thing that has to change. So yeah, and unfortunately
2:05:19
that's the hardest thing. And it is the hardest thing because there's like the
2:05:24
hardest thing is for people to say, you know, to have an expectation
2:05:28
from women. I mean, like I wouldn't even say a criticism. I
2:05:30
mean, just like an expectation. But here's the thing, this is what
2:05:34
I've seen throughout history. Okay, Gino, Centrism is pretty much a constant.
2:05:40
What isn't a constant is whether or not women take responsibility for it.
2:05:45
Yeah, And honestly, like if you look back through history, it is
2:05:47
women keeping other women in check. I actually appreciate something that Jordan Peterson said,
2:05:54
Uh, women, you got to keep your crazy sisters in check.
2:05:57
He's right. Unfortunately, that is the hardest road to hoe and it's I
2:06:02
think it's easier, to be honest, it's easier for men to continue to
2:06:09
take responsibility. And me saying this, and I'm going to qualify this after
2:06:13
I say it, it's easier for men to take responsibility than it is to
2:06:18
make women take responsibility. And I think that it's true that men have to
2:06:26
protect themselves. They have to step up and do what they can in this
2:06:31
society too. They could step up and take the responsibilities that they can take
2:06:36
in this society. That's what I agree with with that with that quote from
2:06:41
Paul Elm But at the end of the day, the hardest thing for men
2:06:45
to do is to make women take responsibility. And that is the only thing
2:06:50
that is really going to change things on a fundamental level. And the solution
2:06:57
to what we're seeing now is you can't live with these with this level like
2:07:01
that, the insanity that I see in women, you can't live with it,
2:07:05
and the only way to get rid of it is for them to take
2:07:10
responsibility. And if you actually, like I've been doing a lot of research
2:07:14
into old folk tales and fairy tales, and a lot of that stuff had
2:07:23
a thread of women taking responsibility. That was like, it was really critical
2:07:28
in these stories. It was a critical element of these stories that women weren't
2:07:32
just fine on their own or just like just just slooping along being a woman
2:07:39
and that was all you needed. No, just slooping along being a princess,
2:07:43
that's all you needed. No, if you actually read the fairy tales,
2:07:45
they very much were about women taking responsibility for their circumstances, even when
2:07:51
those circumstances were unjust. That was really critical, Like there's situations where women
2:07:57
were thrust into things that they never asked for, they never chose, but
2:08:00
they still had to face with courage and intelligence and wisdom or they would be
2:08:05
destroyed by them. And that was I think a really critical message that we
2:08:11
just don't have for women anymore. And it was all over the place,
2:08:15
like with those folk tales, like, you know, shit happens, but
2:08:20
that's not the point. What matters is how you deal with it as a
2:08:24
young woman dealing with you know, the shit that's happening, and that's there.
2:08:28
That message is there. It's very clear, and like I think people
2:08:33
underestimate the role that these stories would have in the development of people during those
2:08:39
times. This was their only these are their only forms of entertainment. There
2:08:43
are only forms of education outside of the Church, which itself had women taking
2:08:48
responsibility for very unjust circumstances. Like there's a lot of Christian martyrs who you
2:08:54
know, female Christian martyrs, Well, why were they martyred? Well,
2:08:58
you know, the the circumstances which just they had thought crimes. They engaged
2:09:03
in thought crimes, that's it. And they refuse to repent or to disavow
2:09:09
their beliefs, and they were murdered basically for it. You know. So
2:09:13
we have this whole history of recognizing the importance of women taking responsibility. That
2:09:22
is gone, guys. It is there's a huge void where it used to
2:09:26
be, and it shows in women. And the only way to change that
2:09:33
is to somehow convince women that their lives are meaningless noise at this point without
2:09:39
responsibility, which is the God's honest truth. A life without responsibility is meaningless
2:09:48
noise. It is not a life. Okay, all right, I got
2:09:52
a super chat. Yeah, I think we should wrap it up because they
2:09:54
got to pick up the wife. I got a super chet from Iggy Thunders
2:09:58
for five dollars. And he says, concerning Tarzan, he was in fact
2:10:03
a genius. He taught himself how to read French and English in the pulps.
2:10:07
Also killed a cheetah with a knodded rope. Yeah, I mean,
2:10:11
yeah, he was a badass. I wouldn't I wouldn't be like, oh
2:10:15
no, the Disney version is obviously not. All right, Well, thank
2:10:20
you for the super Chat Iggy Thunders, And I guess that's the point is
2:10:26
I don't think the me Jane you Tarzan thing was really like a statement on
2:10:33
we were we were making a joke about what she what feminists would think a
2:10:37
man should do. That's what I'm That's what we were doing. We weren't
2:10:41
obviously making an opinion of Tarzan because because feminists would like they would say that,
2:10:50
they wouldn't know that he was, in fact a genius. They would
2:10:54
only know the Disney movie because they don't actually culture themselves very much. They
2:10:58
watched cartoon, so they base reality on it. What was the movie?
2:11:03
He was pretty? He was pretty with it. Yeah, sure, yeah,
2:11:07
but I'm saying it's not like, what was that movie do you remember
2:11:09
called Greystoke? Came out like before, like in the eighty like Christopher Lambert
2:11:15
and he played Tarzan. Do you guys remember that it's called Greystoke? I
2:11:18
think anyway, there have been better Tarzan's that are more accurate. I think.
2:11:26
So I wanted to point out I saw some new people in the chat,
2:11:30
and I wanted to say hello to the new people. I see a
2:11:33
few actually also on Rumble. So yeah, greetings, welcome. I see
2:11:37
that some of them do have like a little bit of experience with this material,
2:11:41
So I hope that you guys will stick around, maybe subscribe to the
2:11:43
channel. We have shows like all week and they are varying degrees of dense
2:11:52
materials. So if you're okay with that, this is the kind of stuff
2:11:56
that we are kind of into. Oh yeah, although I think that I
2:12:00
think the bingo really helps to well, you know, I'm just trying to
2:12:03
find ways to make this stuff fun because sometimes it can be you know,
2:12:07
it's just really it's just thick, thick. Yeah, it's thick. But
2:12:11
if you can make it fun coming thick, yeah, like we could do
2:12:16
like I don't know, Hangman, I don't know, you can do stuff.
2:12:20
Yeah, let's don I don't know how you could incorporate it into like
2:12:26
the material, but I think I could. There's a way, you know,
2:12:28
to incorporate hang Man or like wheel of Fortune. I don't know,
2:12:33
something like that, but anyway, yeah fortune. Yeah, so welcome to
2:12:41
the new Welcome to the Channel. Guys, Please a fortune, which one
2:12:43
is the one with the letters that's wheel of fortune where you spin the wheel
2:12:46
and then you say, can I have a and you ask for a consonant
2:12:50
and occasionally you get a vowel and you have to solve the puzzle. I
2:12:54
think I'm really ignorant of my game shows. Well it's been a while.
2:12:56
I mean, I don't do game shows even still come on, Like I
2:13:00
used to love them. You know. One of my favorites was, uh,
2:13:03
oh man, press your luck. I don't know, because of the
2:13:07
whammy. I like to press your luck. But also there's the Hollywood squares
2:13:13
that can be fun. Yeah. Uh it's tick tack toe basically, that's
2:13:18
another thing we can do. I don't know. I'm learning all kinds of
2:13:22
neat things, like on my on the gaming channel, I have an AI
2:13:26
and the AI answers questions and and the AI is pretty sharp. I mean,
2:13:30
basically it's an NPC, but it's but it is pretty it's pretty interesting
2:13:35
though. You know, I'm looking at everything I try over there is stuff
2:13:39
that I'm hoping that well, you know, if it's not too distracting,
2:13:41
I bring it over here. M hm. Yeah. Maybe I think that
2:13:48
this change the show here is already I mean, you got me. You
2:13:52
don't need something to construct more distractions, right, true, But I mean
2:13:58
like even if it's a simple bot that just like you know, says a
2:14:01
load of people when they first and encourages them to comment and post. That's
2:14:07
all, Yeah, that'd be fine. Okay, let's finish this off and
2:14:09
and yeah, let's let's do it. Do you want me to play the
2:14:13
Yeah, let's just let's because he he he teased us with a bit of
2:14:18
yeah, he's playing some comments from people. No, but not just comments.
2:14:20
There's also a poll at the end. Oh yeah, let's see.
2:14:24
If I don't know anybody who's watched this, tell me if if Pearl did
2:14:28
say repeal the Nineteenth, because I'm pretty sure she did at one point,
2:14:31
I just missed it, like I heard it, and I'm like, okay,
2:14:35
did I hear that? Correct? She may do. People. The
2:14:39
sound on this video is so bad and for whatever reason, they decided the
2:14:43
feminists should have priority. Either that or she's just constant her DNA to just
2:14:52
operate at a higher octave than everybody else. All right, there's so much
2:14:56
feminists and from all the wine working class boys of being left behind with no
2:15:00
legislation to support them. Yeah, yeah, that's feminism. Well, it's
2:15:05
feminism is the biggest excuse for why that's justified. Right, Yeah, well
2:15:09
that's what that's what I mean. It's literally that, like, it's feminism
2:15:13
plus intersectionality equals white working class boys being left behind with no legislation to support
2:15:18
them. That's literally all it is. If they complain, then what are
2:15:22
they doing? They are just it's just a backlash. They're complaining about losing
2:15:26
their privilege, which they shouldn't have had in the first place. So those
2:15:30
complaints are meaningless or nullified. They're they're they're just misogyny. You see how
2:15:35
that works. That's how feminism just removes any consideration for their issues. Okay,
2:15:41
let's hear the next one. There's a lot of traits to that.
2:15:43
Elliott says, it depends on the type of feminism you're talking about. Early
2:15:48
feminism was mostly positive, but wave feminism is mostly negative and divisive and demonizes
2:15:54
man. Again, a lot of great comments so far. Tonight, Diana
2:15:56
says, yes, oh my god, Well, I don't know how to
2:16:00
make these stupid things that pop up. Just don't worry about it. I
2:16:03
let him read it. Let him read it. There's just one man.
2:16:07
I say that as a woman myself, right, Okay, to be fair,
2:16:09
not a huge amount. So a woman agrees that it's you know,
2:16:13
well, yeah, there. What I've noticed there's more and more women who
2:16:16
are agreeing with this, that feminism is ch But the thing is that they
2:16:22
need to not just realize that it's bad now, it's always been bad.
2:16:26
Yep, and it completely it locks women into a cage because they think that
2:16:31
they needed feminism in the past to have lives worth living. And the truth
2:16:37
is that women always did. Okay, let's let's finish this off. Shades
2:16:41
of grain in the in books. But eight of you, I think that
2:16:46
feminism is done more home than good. Wow eighty percent? Whoa that that
2:16:52
woman was not help that's heartwarming. Yeah, I don't think that woman helped
2:16:56
her case. No, it's like she's what did she do? She just
2:17:00
insulted people to just condemned them, and she just took away their voice?
2:17:09
Yep? What the hell was that? Like, what is she trying to
2:17:13
You are demonstrating feminism, Yeah, you're demonstrating feminism is a tool of control
2:17:18
and abuse. Congratulations, Like, more and more people are waking up to
2:17:22
that, not just men but also women. All right, Well, yeah,
2:17:28
okay, so I got another super Chow and then I'm done. I
2:17:31
gotta go pick up lindsay so zaraen Ex gives is five bucks and says,
2:17:33
the reason I mentioned Paul's statement is there is something to get from it.
2:17:37
The notion of red pill we're defaulting is being attacked. There's a correlation between
2:17:43
what Paul said and what coach Greg Adams says with the free agent lifestyle.
2:17:46
While we play on the field, spoilers have decided to focus on No one
2:17:52
will go back to the unearthed Paul's sentiments or coach Greg Adams. That's going
2:17:56
to set us back while society continues fall. Well, that's because those those
2:18:01
are good points. I actually am working on something that I'm gonna be talking
2:18:05
about with regards to uh. It sort of connects to what Paul's said,
2:18:09
and I spoke to Paul about it. I do think that it's It's probably
2:18:16
all I will say is we're in this, We're we're in the state we're
2:18:18
in with boys by design, and I'm gonna explain that, and it's great.
2:18:24
It's the only way men can get like essentially a sense of self actualization
2:18:30
without women, or at least not as women as the primary reward because that's
2:18:35
what they're they're seeking now, you know, is that women are the are
2:18:37
the proof of concept of their identity and I think that's got to take a
2:18:43
back seat to something else. But how do you replace that? And I
2:18:46
have like an idea, So but that's all I'm gonna say about that.
2:18:52
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