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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Cuff Daddy Shawncom's arrested by the Feds in a luxe
- 0:11Speaker 2: hotel in the dark of night, Now in federal custody.
- 0:15Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
- 0:19Speaker 2: being with us today.
- 0:20Speaker 3: I'm announcing the unsealing of a three count indictment charging
- 0:23Speaker 3: Shawn Combs with racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking, interstate transportation for prostitution.
- 0:31Speaker 3: The indictment alleges that between at least two thousand and
- 0:34Speaker 3: eight and the present Comb's abuse threatened and coerce victims
- 0:39Speaker 3: to fulfill his sexual desires, protect his reputation, and conceal
- 0:43Speaker 3: his conduct. As a legend of the indictment, to carry
- 0:47Speaker 3: out this conduct, Shawn Combs led and participated in a
- 0:51Speaker 3: racketeering conspiracy that used the business empire he controlled to
- 0:55Speaker 3: carry out criminal activity including sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery,
- 1:04Speaker 3: and the obstruction of justice.
- 1:06Speaker 2: And we have just gotten our hands on the federal indictment.
- 1:11Speaker 2: But first let's talk about what went down in the
- 1:13Speaker 2: dark of night. Sean Puffy Combs seen out on the
- 1:17Speaker 2: street in New York just thirty minutes before Fed's break
- 1:22Speaker 2: into his luxury suite at the Park Hyatt Hotel on
- 1:25Speaker 2: fifty seventh Street and arrest Combs and proceed to shred
- 1:30Speaker 2: that hotel room looking for evidence. Joining me right now
- 1:35Speaker 2: at the hotel just outside the Park Hyatt is crimeonline
- 1:38Speaker 2: dot Com investigative reporter Angelica Martinez. Angelica, thank you for
- 1:44Speaker 2: being with us. Tell me what happened right there last night.
- 1:48Speaker 4: Yes, Nancy, we are currently outside the high end hotel,
- 1:52Speaker 4: the Park Hyatt Hotel, where Sean.
- 1:54Speaker 5: Puffy Combs was arrested last night. He was arrested.
- 1:57Speaker 4: Following a indictment that was turned by a grand jury
- 2:02Speaker 4: on Monday, and that's set in the process to arrest
- 2:06Speaker 4: Sean Combe.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Guys joining us a Jelica Martinez at the Park Hyatt,
- 2:10Speaker 2: we understand that Fed's pursue it to warrant, went into Combs'
- 2:14Speaker 2: room right behind you, up on one of the penthouse
- 2:17Speaker 2: levels and arrested comes last night. He had no idea
- 2:22Speaker 2: it was about to happen. We've also heard reports the
- 2:25Speaker 2: arrest was to go down at least forty eight if
- 2:28Speaker 2: seventy two hours later, but something triggered the FEDS to
- 2:32Speaker 2: make the arrest last night. Comb's actually spotted out on
- 2:37Speaker 2: the street and videoed bsing with fans and friends just before,
- 2:43Speaker 2: literally minutes before.
- 2:44Speaker 1: The FEDS arrested him.
- 2:46Speaker 2: I know they were poised outside the park Hyatt Hotel
- 2:49Speaker 2: where you're standing right now, Angelica, waiting for him to
- 2:52Speaker 2: come back in with eyes on Sean Puffy comes the
- 2:55Speaker 2: entire evening, Angelica.
- 2:57Speaker 4: Yes, So apparently goociations for shawcom Surrender had been in
- 3:03Speaker 4: the talks for a while, and like you said, Nancy,
- 3:05Speaker 4: something triggered this arrest. Something happened that caused them to
- 3:10Speaker 4: move it from allegedly later in this week to just
- 3:13Speaker 4: last night. He was allegedly arrested right in the lobby,
- 3:17Speaker 4: and he was not expecting that, according to some.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Sources, Angelica, I think I know what may have prompted
- 3:24Speaker 2: the early arrest. You know, you're about twenty thirty minutes
- 3:27Speaker 2: from Teeterborough private airstrip.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Combs has money.
- 3:31Speaker 2: You can get on a private plane without a passport
- 3:35Speaker 2: now where you can land without one as a whole
- 3:37Speaker 2: another can of worms. But if they got win that
- 3:40Speaker 2: he was leaving with all of his money and access
- 3:43Speaker 2: to private planes, that's the time you make the arrest
- 3:47Speaker 2: ahead of time, joining me there at the Park Heyatt
- 3:50Speaker 2: Hotel in the heart of Manhattan, Angelica Martinez, let's open
- 3:54Speaker 2: it up to the panel and the last few moments,
- 3:57Speaker 2: we caught the lawyer, the defense attorney Agna Fellow, and
- 4:02Speaker 2: he states his client is going to be released. Do
- 4:07Speaker 2: you really believe that Sean Puffy Combs is going to
- 4:10Speaker 2: get out on bond?
- 4:11Speaker 1: Straight out to high profile.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Lawyer Nima Romani, former federal prosecutor, President West Coast Trial
- 4:18Speaker 2: Lawyers and author of Harvard to hashtag. He is an
- 4:22Speaker 2: expert in federal law. Nima, thank you for being with us.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Quick question regarding bond. Now we know that Combs was
- 4:30Speaker 2: held overnight and he is with the Feds right now.
- 4:34Speaker 1: You know his lawyer is.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Going to make a big play for him to get
- 4:38Speaker 2: out on bond and make a big show, probably walking
- 4:42Speaker 2: along Park Avenue maybe Fifth Avenue, wearing his fur coat
- 4:45Speaker 2: as if he has a worry in the world. Why
- 4:49Speaker 2: do I say that, because when you don't know a horse, Nima,
- 4:52Speaker 2: look at his track record that has been his inmost.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Since the get go. Hey, you're raiding my house, no problem.
- 4:59Speaker 2: I'm out surfing watersports with my family living it up
- 5:04Speaker 2: with some champagne.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Yeah, that's him.
- 5:08Speaker 2: That's his INMO to act like nothing is wrong and
- 5:10Speaker 2: give the illusion of complete innocence and care free.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Do you think they're gonna give him bond?
- 5:19Speaker 6: Nancy's really up to the judge. I don't think he
- 5:21Speaker 6: deserves bond, because we're talking about some very serious charges, right,
- 5:24Speaker 6: and bond is appropriate when an individual is not a
- 5:27Speaker 6: risk of flight or a danger to the community, and
- 5:29Speaker 6: like you said, he's both. We're talking about someone that's
- 5:32Speaker 6: engaged in violence, drug offenses, sex offenses, firearms allegations. There.
- 5:38Speaker 6: This is someone who's violent, and of course he is
- 5:40Speaker 6: essentially unlimited means and can take off. Now, there's going
- 5:43Speaker 6: to be detention hearing, usually within three court days of
- 5:46Speaker 6: the first appearance, and a judge is going to have
- 5:48Speaker 6: to decide whether there's no condition or combination of conditions
- 5:52Speaker 6: that can guarantee Diddy's appearance in court. I think, even
- 5:57Speaker 6: though I disagree, if you put a gun to my head,
- 5:59Speaker 6: I think he is going to be granted some sort
- 6:02Speaker 6: of bond, even though I don't think he deserves it.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Nima Ramani, if it were anybody but Sean Puffy comes,
- 6:07Speaker 2: they would not get bond because.
- 6:09Speaker 1: This is a huge federal indictment.
- 6:12Speaker 6: You're a FED.
- 6:12Speaker 1: I was a FED.
- 6:13Speaker 2: You know how long it's taken them to put this
- 6:15Speaker 2: thing together. All it takes is one private flight to
- 6:18Speaker 2: another country.
- 6:19Speaker 1: He's gone.
- 6:21Speaker 2: I mean, look, we've never been able to get Roman
- 6:23Speaker 2: Polansky back, and many many others we see ours. Think
- 6:26Speaker 2: of Kanye, for Pete's sake, who records in Paris. He
- 6:30Speaker 2: doesn't need to be in the US. This indictment shows
- 6:35Speaker 2: a vast criminal enterprise. What are we learning. We're learning
- 6:40Speaker 2: that there are co conspirators. But I want to tell you,
- 6:43Speaker 2: Nima and the rest of the panel, listen to this.
- 6:45Speaker 2: In the very beginning and the very first line. For decades,
- 6:50Speaker 2: the defendant abused, threatening, coerced women and others around him
- 6:54Speaker 2: to fulfill sex desires, protect his reputation, and conceal his conduct.
- 7:01Speaker 1: And that is exactly what he's been doing.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Straight back out on the street, joining us in front
- 7:07Speaker 2: of the park Hyatt Hotel. Crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter
- 7:10Speaker 2: Angelica Martinez Angelica as late as last night, thirty minutes
- 7:15Speaker 2: before he is arrested by the Feds, he's out like
- 7:18Speaker 2: he doesn't have a care in the world, bsing, playing
- 7:21Speaker 2: around on the streets with his cohorts. So that's his
- 7:26Speaker 2: mo He always has the facade, the veneer of successful
- 7:33Speaker 2: rap mogul billionaire out on yachts, living it up, dripping
- 7:39Speaker 2: in furs and diamonds. But that's the way he portrays himself,
- 7:43Speaker 2: and right here in the federal indictment we see that's
- 7:47Speaker 2: part of his modus operendi, forcing others to fulfill his
- 7:52Speaker 2: sex desires, in other words, raping them while protecting his
- 7:55Speaker 2: reputation and concealing his conduct.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Angelica.
- 8:00Speaker 5: So he did. He definitely has a history of this.
- 8:03Speaker 4: If we look back to when his La and Miami
- 8:07Speaker 4: homes were rated back in March, he did. He was
- 8:09Speaker 4: out living his life in Miami with not a care
- 8:12Speaker 4: in the world, taking pictures with fans and you know,
- 8:15Speaker 4: posing for Instagram lives, and so that's definitely part of
- 8:19Speaker 4: the persona he has tried to keep up and has
- 8:22Speaker 4: done so successfully for.
- 8:24Speaker 5: These past couple of decades. You know, he did.
- 8:27Speaker 4: He was the guy you wanted to be around, you
- 8:29Speaker 4: wanted to have parties with, get invited to his you know, luxurious,
- 8:34Speaker 4: amazing white parties. As we heard from the latest lawsuit
- 8:38Speaker 4: from Adria English, who was one of those participants in
- 8:42Speaker 4: the White parties. So you know, he spent the night
- 8:45Speaker 4: in federal custody, which is quite the contrast from this
- 8:48Speaker 4: very luxurious Highatt hotel we have behind me and you know,
- 8:52Speaker 4: as you said, in the heart of Manhattan.
- 8:54Speaker 5: So yeah, very very interesting stuff going down with he.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Did he You know, the indictment is naming cohorts, but
- 9:04Speaker 2: who will they end up being. It gives veiled references
- 9:08Speaker 2: to security guards, seven other businesses, employees that worked for
- 9:14Speaker 2: Comes and enabled him to basically run a sex trafficking enterprise.
- 9:22Speaker 2: What does that mean? Rico racketeering. It was first reserved
- 9:27Speaker 2: for the mob. The mob, This is what it means.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Let me break it down, jump in with me, Nima Romani. First,
- 9:35Speaker 2: you have a predicate act. That can be a rape,
- 9:38Speaker 2: It can be a murder of Chupac Sukure, it can
- 9:41Speaker 2: be any number of state crimes. But that predicate acts
- 9:46Speaker 2: like the center of a big spider web. And there
- 9:50Speaker 2: are other people helping you enlist sex victims to enlist
- 9:58Speaker 2: in further your criminal enterprise. That is how the fans
- 10:04Speaker 2: are going to bring in other witnesses as defendants and
- 10:09Speaker 2: in the end, Ramani, they are going to rap out comes.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Agree, disagree?
- 10:15Speaker 6: Oh agree? Because when you're dealing with a Rico conspiracy,
- 10:18Speaker 6: anyone who participates in the conspiracy, they're on the hook
- 10:22Speaker 6: for all the substantive acts and further into the conspiracy.
- 10:25Speaker 6: So what does that mean someone called or help to
- 10:27Speaker 6: get one of these commercial sex workers and they're raped
- 10:31Speaker 6: by force, They're on the hook even if they didn't
- 10:34Speaker 6: participate in the rape. So the Feds have a lot
- 10:37Speaker 6: of leverage in these reco cases. And like you said,
- 10:40Speaker 6: you don't need a whole lot to prove Rico. You
- 10:42Speaker 6: don't need a mob or the carteler shriekings, you need
- 10:45Speaker 6: a criminal enterprise.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Ramone.
- 10:47Speaker 2: We just got our hands on this very lengthy federal
- 10:51Speaker 2: indemond and you know, the de Feds go, the fans
- 10:53Speaker 2: go whole hog. They're not going to charge you one
- 10:55Speaker 2: or two counts. I'd like to direct your attention to
- 10:59Speaker 2: paragraph twelve A Combs and other members and associates of
- 11:04Speaker 2: Comb's enterprise. There's your witnesses right there, wielded power and
- 11:08Speaker 2: prestige and would have repeat freak offs. Freak offs, the fez.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Their words, not mine. They were elaborate and produced sex
- 11:22Speaker 2: performances that Combs himself arranged, directed, masturbated during, and often
- 11:29Speaker 2: electronically recorded.
- 11:31Speaker 1: A freak off in arranging them.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Combs, listen, Here's the witnesses with the assistants and members
- 11:39Speaker 2: and associates of Comb's enterprise. Here's the crime transported caused
- 11:45Speaker 2: to be transported sex workers across state lines and internationally.
- 11:52Speaker 2: They occurred regularly, sometimes lasted multiple days, involved multiple commercial
- 11:59Speaker 2: sex workers, and during the free coughs.
- 12:04Speaker 1: That's just a nice word.
- 12:06Speaker 2: That's just a nice phrase for forcing women to be
- 12:10Speaker 2: videoed while they're being raped. During their free coughs, Combs
- 12:14Speaker 2: distributed drugs to victims to keep them obedient and compliant. Sometimes,
- 12:21Speaker 2: unbeknownst to the victims, Combs kept videos filmed of victims
- 12:26Speaker 2: in sex acts with sex workers.
- 12:28Speaker 1: Did you hear that?
- 12:29Speaker 2: That's exactly Nema Romani what Cassie Venturis said in her lawsuit.
- 12:36Speaker 2: Then he would force her to complete sex acts.
- 12:41Speaker 1: With sex workers, and he would video it.
- 12:46Speaker 2: After freak offs, Combs and victims got IV fluids to
- 12:50Speaker 2: recover from all the drug use and physical exertion. Can
- 12:56Speaker 2: you hear what I'm saying, Romani? Can you hear the
- 13:00Speaker 2: freak coughs I do? This is all consistent with what
- 13:03Speaker 2: Cassie told us almost.
- 13:04Speaker 6: A year ago in November. She was forced to have
- 13:06Speaker 6: sex with these sex workers? Did he recorded it? So
- 13:09Speaker 6: there's gonna be a treasure trove of evidence. And if
- 13:11Speaker 6: you look at that indictment, they recovered one thousand bottles
- 13:15Speaker 6: of baby oil, Nancy, one thousand that were used in
- 13:19Speaker 6: these sex acts. So these are women who were brought
- 13:21Speaker 6: and sometimes men, and they were forced to commit sex.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Name of Ramani.
- 13:25Speaker 2: You know what, didn't you go to Harvard? I did
- 13:28Speaker 2: your instructor at Harvard? Did you ever imagine that you
- 13:32Speaker 2: would be right here right now with me talking about.
- 13:37Speaker 1: A billionaires many?
- 13:39Speaker 2: How many bottles of baby oil did he have for
- 13:43Speaker 2: his free coughs?
- 13:44Speaker 6: How many more than a thousand? Nancy? I never thought
- 13:47Speaker 6: when I graduated Harvard Law School at age twenty two,
- 13:49Speaker 6: I would be talking about did he rolling around in
- 13:52Speaker 6: baby oil with commercial sex workers? So the answer to
- 13:55Speaker 6: that is no, me either.
- 13:57Speaker 2: But this is just a tiny tape of what we're
- 14:01Speaker 2: getting right here. And I'll tell you what I think,
- 14:04Speaker 2: Ramani and the Feds are not gonna like it, but
- 14:08Speaker 2: they were facing the prospect of being a toothless tiger,
- 14:14Speaker 2: a house cat. They had Kazi Ventura, and a video
- 14:19Speaker 2: leaked of him beating her, kicking her, dragging her up
- 14:23Speaker 2: and down the halls of a hotel.
- 14:25Speaker 1: On video, a grown man.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Out in the hall wearing nothing but a towel, beating
- 14:30Speaker 2: her viciously and dragging her back to his hotel room
- 14:33Speaker 2: to do what, rape her, that's my allegation. And they
- 14:38Speaker 2: were doing nothing. There was a stream of people saying,
- 14:42Speaker 2: he raped me, he made me have sex with sex workers,
- 14:45Speaker 2: he videoed it. There's the Tupac Secure Cloud murder hanging
- 14:51Speaker 2: over him. So what were the FEDS going to do?
- 14:53Speaker 2: Sit back and twiddle their thumbs. No, they had to act.
- 14:58Speaker 6: Ramani Well, of course that to act. We've all seen
- 15:01Speaker 6: that video of Diddy beating Cassie in twenty sixteen, and
- 15:05Speaker 6: you know, when you're talking about Rico, there's a ten
- 15:07Speaker 6: year window for those credited acts. So that window was.
- 15:10Speaker 2: Coming up two thousand and sixteen, Ramani twenty sixteen, nearly
- 15:15Speaker 2: ten years ago. They had to act or else hang
- 15:20Speaker 2: their head in shame.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Nima.
- 15:22Speaker 6: They did, and their window was closing. Man, see if
- 15:26Speaker 6: they didn't file this, and we were asking why did
- 15:29Speaker 6: it take six months? If they didn't file all of
- 15:31Speaker 6: a sudden, some of these counts they can fall off
- 15:34Speaker 6: because of the statute of limitation, So the Feds had
- 15:37Speaker 6: to finally act. There was a lot of pressure on them.
- 15:40Speaker 6: Victim after victim was coming forward. We're talking about the
- 15:43Speaker 6: eight or nine different lawsuits on this show. So the
- 15:46Speaker 6: question I have is why did it take so long?
- 15:48Speaker 6: Better late than ever, but justice delayed is justice denied.
- 15:52Speaker 6: So I'm glad the victims are going to finally have
- 15:54Speaker 6: their day in criminal court, although this of course will
- 15:57Speaker 6: put all those civil lawsuits on hold.
- 15:59Speaker 3: Alleged Combs use force, threats of force encasion to cause
- 16:04Speaker 3: victims to engage in extended sexual performances with male commercial
- 16:08Speaker 3: sex workers, some of whom he transported or caused to
- 16:12Speaker 3: be transported over state lines. Combs allegedly planned and controlled
- 16:17Speaker 3: the sex performances, which he called freak offs, and he
- 16:22Speaker 3: often electronically recorded them.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Sean Puffy Combs in custody in federal custody after being
- 16:43Speaker 2: arrested last night at the Park Hyatt Luxury Hotel, fifty
- 16:48Speaker 2: seventh Street, Manhattan. Now, the Feds seemingly had planned to
- 16:55Speaker 2: take Combs into custody at a later date, but something
- 16:59Speaker 2: triggered them to act last night, and then they totally
- 17:03Speaker 2: shredded his hotel room looking for evidence, joining.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Me an all star panel.
- 17:09Speaker 2: But we caught up with his lawyer, Agnafello, and this
- 17:13Speaker 2: is what he has to say.
- 17:15Speaker 7: He came to New York to basically engage the court
- 17:18Speaker 7: system and start the case, and it'll start today and
- 17:22Speaker 7: he's gonna plead not guilty. Obviously, he's going to fight
- 17:25Speaker 7: this with all of his energy and all of his
- 17:27Speaker 7: might and the full confidence.
- 17:29Speaker 6: Of his lawyers.
- 17:30Speaker 7: And I expect a long battle with a good result
- 17:33Speaker 7: for mister Commerson.
- 17:34Speaker 1: So kill really if you.
- 17:36Speaker 7: I'm going to fight like hell to get him released.
- 17:38Speaker 7: And he should be released with all that he's done
- 17:40Speaker 7: and coming here voluntarily. And guys, I'm going to cut
- 17:43Speaker 7: it short because I have to.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Go in all right, he should be released because of
- 17:46Speaker 2: all he's done. He should stay behind bars because all
- 17:50Speaker 2: he has done. I'm guaranteeing you if this were not
- 17:53Speaker 2: a wealthy billionaire and famous person, there would be no
- 17:57Speaker 2: chance in h double l that he would be released
- 18:00Speaker 2: on bond. I mean Lynn Shaw is joining me Founder
- 18:03Speaker 2: executive director Lynz Warriors, committed to ending sex trafficking.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw. It's easy to get.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Sucked in, not me, but for many people, to get
- 18:14Speaker 2: sucked into Shawn Comes' lifestyle, his rolls, Royce's, his mansions,
- 18:19Speaker 2: his diamond rings, his fur.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Coats, his luxurious lifestyle.
- 18:24Speaker 2: You know what, the devil can wear a tuxedo and
- 18:27Speaker 2: fit right in at the symphony.
- 18:30Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
- 18:32Speaker 2: But until you have seen what happens to sex trafficking victims,
- 18:38Speaker 2: it changes everything.
- 18:40Speaker 1: It changes the way you.
- 18:41Speaker 2: Look at abusers allegedly like Shawn Comes, explain what these
- 18:46Speaker 2: women go through.
- 18:48Speaker 8: First of all, I am disgusted and very angry, Nancy.
- 18:53Speaker 8: You know they say a picture is worth a thousand words,
- 18:56Speaker 8: But in New York City, if you have a nickname,
- 18:58Speaker 8: a street name, which.
- 19:00Speaker 1: He did, and it was pimp Daddy. Let me repeat that,
- 19:04Speaker 1: pimp Daddy.
- 19:05Speaker 8: I am angry because the focus now, of course, is
- 19:09Speaker 8: all on him. They should lock him up and throw
- 19:12Speaker 8: away the keys to show all the victims and survivors
- 19:16Speaker 8: of sex trafficking that this is happening that this thug
- 19:20Speaker 8: is being held accountable, because if they let him out,
- 19:24Speaker 8: we will not We still have think about all the
- 19:26Speaker 8: women who have not come forward. How about all the
- 19:29Speaker 8: girls that were teenagers. Nobody's talking about that yet, that
- 19:33Speaker 8: are afraid to come forward. Now, women, I want to
- 19:35Speaker 8: remind you, I started out of college in the music business.
- 19:39Speaker 8: I have always heard from girls and women about this
- 19:44Speaker 8: whole criminal cartel going up through the hip hop then
- 19:47Speaker 8: becoming rap and Pimp Daddy that is what they called
- 19:51Speaker 8: him ten years ago. What has taken so long? So
- 19:54Speaker 8: I want to remind everybody. Although this is all going
- 19:57Speaker 8: on and it is a great day here in New
- 19:58Speaker 8: York City, we must focus on our survivors. I want
- 20:02Speaker 8: them to get equal attention. I want them to have
- 20:05Speaker 8: voices because lives have been ruined healthcare, their bodies have
- 20:09Speaker 8: been ruined, their minds have been ruined, and they feel
- 20:12Speaker 8: like they have nobody to turn to. There aren't the resources.
- 20:15Speaker 8: So if we show Pimp Daddy, by example, is going
- 20:18Speaker 8: to be locked up, You're going to see a lot
- 20:21Speaker 8: more women come forward. Talk about this. And as I'm
- 20:24Speaker 8: sitting here, I'm getting texts from people we told you,
- 20:27Speaker 8: we told you, we told you that have been affiliated
- 20:29Speaker 8: with him or the music business over the years. So
- 20:32Speaker 8: I say, let us use this as an example. Let's
- 20:34Speaker 8: get through this, lock them up, and then talk about
- 20:37Speaker 8: what we can do to support survivors.
- 20:40Speaker 2: Nama Romani, she's right, but how are we going to
- 20:43Speaker 2: do it? Taking a look at the indictment, give me
- 20:46Speaker 2: your breakdown on the charges, Nama Romani, Well, we're.
- 20:48Speaker 6: Three sets of charges. We have a rico conspiracy. That's
- 20:51Speaker 6: that racketeering, and it's the unlawful agreement to commit two
- 20:55Speaker 6: a more predicate acts and further into that conspiracy. So
- 20:58Speaker 6: we got assault, we got drug trafficking, we got sex trafficked.
- 21:00Speaker 6: We even have arson, nancy, bribery, intimidation of witnesses, so
- 21:04Speaker 6: a lot going on with that reco charge. Then we
- 21:07Speaker 6: have the two substantive counts. There's the sex trafficking across
- 21:10Speaker 6: state lines. That's that federal hook. And you know, sex
- 21:14Speaker 6: between consenting adults isn't illegal, but if there's fraud, force,
- 21:18Speaker 6: or coercion it is, then it becomes rape. Then it
- 21:21Speaker 6: becomes trafficking. So that's that allegation. And then we have
- 21:24Speaker 6: prostitution across state lines. So money is paid. Again, that's
- 21:28Speaker 6: that federal jurisdiction.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Naima, talking of money when you refer to money being
- 21:34Speaker 2: paid in furtherance of the criminal enterprise.
- 21:36Speaker 1: And paragraph four.
- 21:38Speaker 2: It directly names the Cassi Ventia video and it describes
- 21:45Speaker 2: it says a woman, but it says comes dragkick and
- 21:48Speaker 2: through a vase at a woman as she was attempting
- 21:50Speaker 2: to leave, and when a member of hotel security intervene
- 21:54Speaker 2: and tried to stop him, he tried to bribe the
- 21:57Speaker 2: staff member to ensure violence. Okay, I mean to ensure silence.
- 22:02Speaker 2: That goes hand in hand with what you're saying, Nima.
- 22:05Speaker 6: Well it does. And we know that he paid tens
- 22:07Speaker 6: of thousands of dollars for that video. What he didn't
- 22:09Speaker 6: know is the hotel staff maintained a copy and CNN
- 22:13Speaker 6: got a hold of that video. So this is just
- 22:16Speaker 6: part of the pattern. And even after the raids of
- 22:19Speaker 6: his Miami and Los Angeles homes, there's phone calls reporterly
- 22:22Speaker 6: where Diddy is trying to bribe and dissuade witnesses. So
- 22:26Speaker 6: there's two ways he does it. Apparently, if you look
- 22:28Speaker 6: at allegations, he tries to pay them off, and we
- 22:30Speaker 6: know a lot of them have filed civil lawsits and
- 22:32Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised if he's trying to buy their silence.
- 22:35Speaker 6: And the other is, of course the force. Right you
- 22:38Speaker 6: look at the indictment. He has three AR fifteen's with
- 22:41Speaker 6: obliterated serial numbers, lots of guns, there's beatings, there's threats.
- 22:46Speaker 6: So Diddy is going to do everything he can to
- 22:49Speaker 6: prevent these witnesses and victims from testifying a trial.
- 22:52Speaker 2: Hey, Nima, it's really hard for anybody to be a
- 22:55Speaker 2: gun charge because all the states got a show is
- 22:58Speaker 2: it's an illegal weapon with the numbers, the serial numbers
- 23:02Speaker 2: scratched off, and it's in your possession. That's it. That
- 23:05Speaker 2: is a federal gun charge. It's really hard to beat that.
- 23:08Speaker 2: But Nima and Romani in here we see in the
- 23:12Speaker 2: indictment that we've just gotten, we managed to get ahead,
- 23:15Speaker 2: get it before it was read in court. The Feds
- 23:19Speaker 2: are so smart, Nima. Have you ever seen fishers fisher
- 23:23Speaker 2: people use not just a rod and real but a net.
- 23:28Speaker 2: That's what they've got here, Nima. And if you could
- 23:31Speaker 2: explain as a FED, a former FED, they talk about
- 23:36Speaker 2: security staff, employees, staff domestic people, all sorts of administrative
- 23:44Speaker 2: employees that helped and enabled Combs. And what they're doing
- 23:49Speaker 2: is they're throwing out a net and by doing this
- 23:52Speaker 2: they can catch all of them as unnamed co conspirators.
- 23:56Speaker 2: Explain the significance of what they have very wisely done
- 24:00Speaker 2: in this indictment.
- 24:01Speaker 6: So and in indictment that alleged conspiracy requires an unlawful
- 24:06Speaker 6: agreement between two or more people. But you don't I
- 24:08Speaker 6: have to charge the two or more people. They can
- 24:10Speaker 6: be unindicted co conspirators, which means that they're named or
- 24:14Speaker 6: not and they're not charged. But any good lawyer knows
- 24:17Speaker 6: that they can be charged and they can be on
- 24:20Speaker 6: the hook for all this. And talking about the freak ASTs.
- 24:23Speaker 6: If you read the indictment, there's a lot of materials
- 24:26Speaker 6: in it. They need bedsheets, they talked about the baby oil.
- 24:28Speaker 6: They need the drugs, they need the Ivyes, they need
- 24:30Speaker 6: the lighting, they need the cameras. So these individuals that
- 24:34Speaker 6: were part of Diddy's circle, they provided all of this, Yes,
- 24:39Speaker 6: as the indictment alleges.
- 24:40Speaker 3: In late twenty twenty three, after public allegations were made
- 24:44Speaker 3: about Combs's crimes, he and others pressured witnesses and victims
- 24:48Speaker 3: to stay silent, including by making phone calls to witnesses
- 24:52Speaker 3: and victims and giving them a false narrative of what
- 24:55Speaker 3: they had experienced.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Sean Puppy Combs in federal custody.
- 24:59Speaker 2: He was arrested last night the cover of darkness at
- 25:02Speaker 2: the Park Hyatt Hotel downtown Manhattan, fifty seventh Street. The
- 25:07Speaker 2: arrest was sooner than the Feds had anticipated. Something triggered
- 25:11Speaker 2: them to have the arrest go down immediately. And I
- 25:15Speaker 2: can guarantee you as Combs was filmed out on the street,
- 25:21Speaker 2: bsing with his friends, cohorts and fans, the FEDS had
- 25:25Speaker 2: eyes on him until he went back in that hotel.
- 25:28Speaker 2: How do I know that, Because if we saw a
- 25:32Speaker 2: video of him and he was out on the street
- 25:35Speaker 2: thirty minutes later the arrest goes down, all those Feds
- 25:39Speaker 2: were in place in case things went sideways.
- 25:42Speaker 1: We know Shampa he.
- 25:44Speaker 2: Combs had multiple firearms, many of them illegal, And when
- 25:49Speaker 2: you're making an.
- 25:50Speaker 1: Arrest, you never know what's going to go wrong.
- 25:53Speaker 2: I mean Chris mcdunn and joining me, Director Cold Case's Foundation,
- 25:57Speaker 2: former homicide detective, over three hundred homicide investigation Center's belt.
- 26:01Speaker 2: You and I have been on many arrayed and many
- 26:05Speaker 2: an arrest, and when that happens, you don't know what
- 26:10Speaker 2: idiot's going to grab a gun and start shooting Chris.
- 26:13Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a very high risk situation, Nancy.
- 26:16Speaker 10: And in a scenario like this where you have an
- 26:19Speaker 10: individual who is basically what we would call an anger
- 26:23Speaker 10: retaliatory predator, he is capable of anything.
- 26:28Speaker 9: And so the FEDS were probably way on top of this.
- 26:32Speaker 11: With either what they call a T three weren't where
- 26:35Speaker 11: they're sitting in a box somewhere and listening to all
- 26:38Speaker 11: of the conversations going on, especially with something this higher profile,
- 26:42Speaker 11: or they had a criminal informant in the game and
- 26:46Speaker 11: somebody tipped off something that puts put this whole thing
- 26:50Speaker 11: into motion.
- 26:50Speaker 2: You know. Another issue, and what I'm saying about the
- 26:53Speaker 2: fans being ready locked and loaded eyes on Diddy, I
- 26:59Speaker 2: guarantee they were watching him for hours and hours before
- 27:03Speaker 2: they finally moved in and had agents in place in
- 27:06Speaker 2: the fire stairwell and undercover in the lobby for real
- 27:12Speaker 2: with the earphones in their ear Describe me here he comes,
- 27:16Speaker 2: He's going to go on the elevator, He's coming up.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Everything was synchronized and perfectly orchestrated to ensure or try
- 27:24Speaker 2: to ensure that no one got hurt.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Diddy surprised.
- 27:29Speaker 2: He did not think this was happening, and he is
- 27:31Speaker 2: in federal custody right now. He just saw his lawyer Agnafello,
- 27:35Speaker 2: who vows to get him out on bond.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Will that happen?
- 27:38Speaker 2: Joining me an all star panel including Chris McDonald, Lin Shaw,
- 27:41Speaker 2: and Jelica Martinez outside Park Hyatt. But I want to
- 27:45Speaker 2: go now to Anima Romani, former fed now trial lawyer,
- 27:49Speaker 2: Kelly Hyman joining us, a trial lawyer out of Miami,
- 27:54Speaker 2: host of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Once Upon
- 27:57Speaker 2: of Crime in Hollywood. Kelly, thank you for being with us.
- 28:00Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about the indictment. In
- 28:03Speaker 2: paragraph four, we see a direct reference to the Cassie
- 28:08Speaker 2: venturup video where he's dragging her and beating her and
- 28:11Speaker 2: kicking her in that luxury hotel, throwing.
- 28:16Speaker 1: A vase at her, goes on and on and on.
- 28:19Speaker 2: But in paragraph five we see him being described as
- 28:25Speaker 2: facilitating and using his business, Combs business, to cover up
- 28:31Speaker 2: his abuse and commercial sex.
- 28:34Speaker 1: It goes on to discuss.
- 28:37Speaker 2: What I believe are going to be unnamed co conspirators
- 28:40Speaker 2: or at the very least witnesses, security staff, household staff,
- 28:44Speaker 2: personal assistance. And I'm reading from paragraph ten right now,
- 28:48Speaker 2: high ranking supervisors and other close associates of Combs. That
- 28:54Speaker 2: could be anybody, as Nima Romani and I were just talking,
- 28:59Speaker 2: that could be the I who set up the lighting
- 29:01Speaker 2: for his freak.
- 29:04Speaker 1: Freakouts.
- 29:05Speaker 2: And what the free costs are is comes forcing women
- 29:11Speaker 2: to engage in sex acts with paid sex workers on video,
- 29:18Speaker 2: basically being raped on video by some sex worker that
- 29:22Speaker 2: you have flown in. We also know that he would
- 29:28Speaker 2: give the victims drugs, sometimes they didn't even know they
- 29:31Speaker 2: were drugged, and even at selige threatened them with guns.
- 29:36Speaker 2: The whole time Combs would be watching the free cough
- 29:40Speaker 2: and or masturbating. My legal point is that they've named
- 29:45Speaker 2: all these people security staff, household staff, personal assistance, supervisors,
- 29:50Speaker 2: other associates of.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Sean Puffy Combs.
- 29:54Speaker 2: That's the very wide net from which to catch other
- 29:58Speaker 2: co defendants.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Kelly.
- 30:00Speaker 12: These are serious allegations, Nancy, and it's also important to
- 30:04Speaker 12: remember the fact that he is the only one listed
- 30:08Speaker 12: in this indictment.
- 30:09Speaker 6: So what does that mean that.
- 30:11Speaker 12: Potentially means the fact that the other people, whether it's
- 30:14Speaker 12: people that work for him, are cooperating with the federal government,
- 30:18Speaker 12: cooperating and giving information to let them know exactly what
- 30:22Speaker 12: happened and what transpires as well.
- 30:25Speaker 13: But it could also mean that there are co conspirators
- 30:28Speaker 13: could potentially also be charged as well. So these are
- 30:33Speaker 13: serious allegations. Now what this means is the grand jury listen.
- 30:37Speaker 12: To evidence and based on the evidence presented to the
- 30:40Speaker 12: grand jury, they believe that there was some serious crimes
- 30:44Speaker 12: and now he is going to go to trial and
- 30:47Speaker 12: ultimately the jurors of his peers will make a determination
- 30:50Speaker 12: whether or not to find him guilty of these charges.
- 30:54Speaker 9: We are not done.
- 30:55Speaker 3: This investigation is ongoing, and I encourage anyone with information
- 30:59Speaker 3: about this case to come forward and to do it quickly.
- 31:03Speaker 3: Anyone with information can call one eight seven seven for
- 31:08Speaker 3: HSI KIP.
- 31:15Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace joining me.
- 31:22Speaker 2: Sidney Sumner Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter Sidney, this
- 31:26Speaker 2: guy's got a rap sheet as long as I seventy five.
- 31:31Speaker 1: For over and over he was tied to.
- 31:34Speaker 2: For instance, he was tied to a deadly stampede and
- 31:37Speaker 2: Harlem ninety one, accused of sex assault after a date
- 31:42Speaker 2: arrested with Jennifer Lopez. Remember that the shootout at a club,
- 31:46Speaker 2: accused of swinging a kettle ball at a UCLA coach
- 31:50Speaker 2: That was in twenty fifteen.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Then, I mean, I don't have to even name it all.
- 31:54Speaker 1: There's so much.
- 31:56Speaker 2: Somehow he has escaped hard jail time, Sidney Sumner, So
- 32:00Speaker 2: what is he looking at?
- 32:01Speaker 1: Now? Tell me what you.
- 32:03Speaker 2: Know about the arrest last night and the charges now pending.
- 32:06Speaker 14: Well, Nancy, these are very serious charges. We have those
- 32:09Speaker 14: three counts that racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud
- 32:14Speaker 14: or coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution. These are
- 32:19Speaker 14: not charges that will be taken lightly. And not to
- 32:22Speaker 14: mention all the other things mentioned in this indictment, narcotics, offensive, kidnapping, arson, bribery,
- 32:28Speaker 14: and obstruction of justice. What's interesting to me those kidnapping
- 32:33Speaker 14: and arson claims. That kidnapping, we've seen that in several
- 32:37Speaker 14: of these lawsuits, the latest by Don Richard claiming that
- 32:43Speaker 14: Diddy locked her in a car for hours and left
- 32:46Speaker 14: her there. Her father had to travel from New Jersey
- 32:50Speaker 14: to New York to get her out of that car.
- 32:53Speaker 14: When confronted, Combs basically threatened her father, saying do you
- 32:57Speaker 14: want to ruin your daughter's music career? And the arson
- 33:00Speaker 14: we learned about that in Cassie Ventura's lawsuit. She claimed
- 33:04Speaker 14: that Diddy blew up Kid Cutty's car when she dated.
- 33:09Speaker 6: Him for just a couple of dates.
- 33:11Speaker 14: So we have seen a lot of this and we
- 33:13Speaker 14: know that his staff is helping him.
- 33:15Speaker 1: Accomplish all of these crimes.
- 33:18Speaker 14: So I don't think the Feds are going to let
- 33:21Speaker 14: Diddy off easy this time.
- 33:23Speaker 2: Chris McDonald, let me direct you to page seven of
- 33:27Speaker 2: the indictment come subjected victims to physical, emotional verbal abuse.
- 33:34Speaker 1: You know we were talking.
- 33:36Speaker 2: With Niema about the baby oil. Well, now we know
- 33:40Speaker 2: what all had been found doing the search of that
- 33:45Speaker 2: Miami mansion, I mean his mansion that was then put
- 33:49Speaker 2: up for sale, monitoring devices, lighting, fresh sheets, drugs, extra linens, lubricants,
- 34:01Speaker 2: the lighting for the freak offs, the people who would pay,
- 34:06Speaker 2: the clean hotel rooms after the freak COFs trying to
- 34:10Speaker 2: paying to mitigate room damage, arranging for travel for victims,
- 34:16Speaker 2: for commercial sex workers.
- 34:19Speaker 1: I mean, it goes on and on and on.
- 34:21Speaker 2: That's what they were looking for at his mansion when
- 34:26Speaker 2: they rated it. These free coffs would occur often in
- 34:29Speaker 2: hotel rooms, and that's why they're getting all that information.
- 34:34Speaker 2: You know, we were asking, we were wondering opining the
- 34:37Speaker 2: other day, why do they want all the names of
- 34:40Speaker 2: the people that were in the hotel visiting the hotel
- 34:43Speaker 2: room with Sean Colmes. Why don't we want their room
- 34:45Speaker 2: service orders? Why do we want to know who was
- 34:48Speaker 2: working that day, what cars they use, what tag numbers
- 34:51Speaker 2: they gave?
- 34:52Speaker 1: Now we know why?
- 34:54Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean all of that evidence, you know, enabling
- 34:58Speaker 9: this conspiracy of sex trafficking, etc. You know, Nancy, you know,
- 35:04Speaker 9: early in my career from eighty four to eighty six,
- 35:06Speaker 9: I was a vice investigator and I worked undercover with
- 35:10Speaker 9: the most vulnerable personalities. You know that we're out on
- 35:14Speaker 9: the street. This guy, you know, the doc centered earlier.
- 35:18Speaker 9: Let's just call it what it is. He was a pimp.
- 35:21Speaker 9: He is a pimp and this is all he has known.
- 35:24Speaker 9: But the problem now that we have those victims, the
- 35:28Speaker 9: girls that have come forward and will potentially testify against him,
- 35:32Speaker 9: I think you would agree those girls' lives are in
- 35:36Speaker 9: jeopardy starting today, big time. That has ramped up, and
- 35:42Speaker 9: so I am really concerned about the safety of these
- 35:46Speaker 9: women going forward.
- 35:47Speaker 2: I agree, Hey, Lynn, Lynnshaw and Karen Stark. First to you, Lynnshaw.
- 35:53Speaker 2: If you look at page eight, we see a paragraph
- 35:57Speaker 2: e as an elephant where Shawn Combs's associates would observe,
- 36:05Speaker 2: stand by and watch him beat and physically injure victims,
- 36:10Speaker 2: keeping them from leaving locations that Sidney Summers told us about,
- 36:15Speaker 2: keeping one victim locked in a car, putting them up
- 36:20Speaker 2: in hidden locations, forcing them to remain in hiding days
- 36:25Speaker 2: at a time to recover from the injuries Sean Combs
- 36:30Speaker 2: inflicted on their bodies.
- 36:34Speaker 1: So they would.
- 36:35Speaker 2: Stand by and watch the victims get raped. The first
- 36:39Speaker 2: trafficking case I ever had, the victim was thirteen years old.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Combs has been accused of underage rape. They would stand
- 36:47Speaker 2: by and video these women getting beaten and raped, and
- 36:53Speaker 2: in paragraph a page six, often unbeknownst to the victims,
- 36:58Speaker 2: they were being videoed pill He forced them to have
- 37:01Speaker 2: sex with commercial sex workers, but then that wasn't enough.
- 37:06Speaker 2: According to this, he would beat them and they would
- 37:09Speaker 2: actually have to go in hiding for days on end
- 37:13Speaker 2: to recover.
- 37:14Speaker 1: So the world wouldn't know what comes did.
- 37:17Speaker 8: Two of the biggest things that make money right now,
- 37:19Speaker 8: Nancy are sex trafficking and extortion. I have spoken to
- 37:24Speaker 8: different women over the years and I would say, come
- 37:26Speaker 8: forward with this case in New York, and they would say, no,
- 37:29Speaker 8: I am too scared. I'm in fear for my life,
- 37:32Speaker 8: I'm in fear for my family's lives, and I just
- 37:35Speaker 8: want to forget about it. And that is common with
- 37:38Speaker 8: sex trafficking victims and survivors. My biggest fear here though,
- 37:43Speaker 8: is I want to say I'm afraid. I don't want
- 37:45Speaker 8: this to turn into what I believe happened with the
- 37:48Speaker 8: Jeffrey Epstein case, where there was a lot of noise,
- 37:51Speaker 8: a lot of this, a lot of that, and then
- 37:53Speaker 8: we never, in my opinion, really got to the bottom
- 37:56Speaker 8: of that. Really, we have one person in prison, maxwell
- 38:00Speaker 8: a woman, what else happened? And then a lot of
- 38:03Speaker 8: those victims signed on with lawyers for class action lawsuits
- 38:07Speaker 8: and we hear nothing from them. This is my greatest
- 38:10Speaker 8: fear that this will just all disappear. We cannot let
- 38:13Speaker 8: this pimp daddy get away with this mister owning New
- 38:16Speaker 8: York City, mister parading around yesterday were Bergdorff Goodman shopping
- 38:20Speaker 8: bags and lounging on the Great Lawn in Central Park
- 38:23Speaker 8: all day Sunday afternoon.
- 38:24Speaker 1: This is incredible.
- 38:26Speaker 8: He must, I repeat, he must be put in jail,
- 38:28Speaker 8: and we must throw away the keys and make him
- 38:30Speaker 8: an example. We don't tolerate this.
- 38:32Speaker 1: It's been a long time coming.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Sean Puffy comes in federal custody, his lawyer fighting tooth and.
- 38:39Speaker 1: Nail to get him out on bond.
- 38:41Speaker 2: We have the federal indictment, pages and pages and pages
- 38:45Speaker 2: of allegations straight out to Kelly Hyman, joining US veteran
- 38:49Speaker 2: trial lawyer.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Kelly.
- 38:52Speaker 2: If you look at this, the Feds did it up
- 38:55Speaker 2: right because they name all of these charges. They implicate
- 39:00Speaker 2: unnamed co conspirators which may turn out to be witnesses
- 39:04Speaker 2: against him, but they throw in racketeering. I want to
- 39:08Speaker 2: explain that because it sounds very confusing. Rico racketeering. It's
- 39:14Speaker 2: called a criminal enterprise. It's normally reserved for the mob,
- 39:19Speaker 2: where you'd have a godfather ruling over hundreds of thugs, okay,
- 39:25Speaker 2: getting them to do his will, carrying out murders, rapes, pimping, theft, drugs,
- 39:32Speaker 2: you name, it. They were all acting in concert. That's
- 39:37Speaker 2: what they have alleged here. Why is that important Because
- 39:40Speaker 2: it's easy to convict somebody on racketeering, as it's easy
- 39:45Speaker 2: to convict somebody on a gun charge.
- 39:48Speaker 1: Jump in.
- 39:49Speaker 12: The evidence is going to be key. So when you
- 39:51Speaker 12: look at racketeering cases, you're looking at allegations of a conspiracy,
- 39:56Speaker 12: some type of planned, some type of way that they
- 39:59Speaker 12: came together and based on the allegations, they're alleging that
- 40:02Speaker 12: there was in fact this conspiracy and the only person
- 40:06Speaker 12: that it benefited was Sean Combs, was p Diddy. He's
- 40:10Speaker 12: the only one that benefited from this. And they conspire
- 40:14Speaker 12: together as allegations that if someone was going to say
- 40:16Speaker 12: something that there was allegations of.
- 40:19Speaker 13: Threat or harm to them.
- 40:20Speaker 12: So they were all working together, they were all conspiring,
- 40:23Speaker 12: and that was the criminal in fact enterprise to harm
- 40:26Speaker 12: these women. As someone who represents women that have been
- 40:30Speaker 12: in human traffic and self trafficking, the allegations in this
- 40:33Speaker 12: case are very.
- 40:35Speaker 2: Severe and this is going to really hurt him. And
- 40:39Speaker 2: the forfeiture allegation paragraph on page twelve, it's eighteen. It's
- 40:44Speaker 2: talking about forfeiture allegations. I'm talking about going after Diddy's money.
- 40:51Speaker 2: You know what to hey with the money? What about
- 40:56Speaker 2: these victims. Many people think, Oh, they did it for
- 41:00Speaker 2: the money. They did it for the career. They were
- 41:04Speaker 2: raped on video, drugged and raped, beaten kicked, forced to
- 41:10Speaker 2: hide out until their bruises went away. There is no
- 41:16Speaker 2: defense to that, according to the allegations. We wait and
- 41:22Speaker 2: watch as justice unfolds. If Sean Combs manages to walk
- 41:27Speaker 2: out on bond, yes, he'll be released for now. Nancy
- 41:32Speaker 2: Grace signing off, goodbye friend,