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Bonus Episode: The Greatest Band That Never Was · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode or Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig
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Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
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Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about this week's full episode subject the Replacements.
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Speaker 1: We're rewinding with the Guns and Roses Parts one and two,
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Speaker 1: stories from our archive, previewing our new upcoming episode on
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Speaker 1: Nikki six, and we get into your voicemail, text, dms
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Speaker 1: and as always a whole lot of rosie. Disgraceland is
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Speaker 1: for the obsessed, the overlook, the outsiders who know that
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Speaker 1: the best stories are the ones that got buried. If
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Speaker 1: that's you, then you belong right here in the after party.
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Speaker 1: All right, this goes, Let's get into it. When I
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Speaker 1: first heard The Replacements in high school, it was what
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Speaker 1: older kids listened to, and by older kids, I mean
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Speaker 1: kids who seem both smart and dangerous, kids from my
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Speaker 1: town who went to college but still had cool vintage
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Speaker 1: cars and hot girlfriends. But Molly ringwaldhat not Cindy Crawford hot.
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Speaker 1: The point is what these Replacements listening dudes had was
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Speaker 1: different from what my punk rock listening friends had. It
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Speaker 1: seemed more adult and fun, and like I said, somehow smart,
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Speaker 1: too smarter than the Misfits and suicidal tendencies. Anyway, despite
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Speaker 1: Gary and Boner, so I gravitated toward these kids, and
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Speaker 1: of course toward the Replacements. Now, given how fucked up
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Speaker 1: the Replacements were and how good their songs were and
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Speaker 1: what the dudes who were listening to the Replacements were reaping,
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Speaker 1: I thought, I fucking love this band, and I thought
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Speaker 1: I can do this, and of course I couldn't, not
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Speaker 1: with that level of brilliance. Turns out it's really hard
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Speaker 1: to be wasted all the time and brilliant. Just ask
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Speaker 1: Bob Stinson. Now, the Replacements were mythic before they even
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Speaker 1: got big, and maybe that was the problem because in
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Speaker 1: living up to that myth, they paid a very very
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Speaker 1: very steep price. We' of course detailed that reckoning in
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Speaker 1: our new episode this week on the Replacements, the greatest
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Speaker 1: band that Never was. They never reached the rock and
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Speaker 1: roll heights they were promised, and that their great songs
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Speaker 1: promised us. And some say they should have been, you know,
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Speaker 1: akin to what Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers were, And
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I think the Plents should have
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Speaker 1: been the Rolling Stones. The songs were that good, and
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Speaker 1: so were the albums. And you know, here's where where
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Speaker 1: the Replacements had Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers beat. The
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Speaker 1: individual members of the Mats had more charisma than the Heartbreakers,
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Speaker 1: just like the Rolling Stones. And maybe that's why Tom
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Speaker 1: Petty had the Replacements thrown off tour with him, but
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Speaker 1: probably not. Never mind any of that. It doesn't matter,
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Speaker 1: some of you will say, and I kind of agree
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Speaker 1: with you. Who cares? The Replacements made great music, mainstream
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Speaker 1: rock and roll stardom doesn't matter. And this is true.
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Speaker 1: But there's a weird sort of generational representation that shines
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Speaker 1: on the fans of a very small handful of bands.
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Speaker 1: You're Rolling Stones, Nirvana, et cetera. Okay, those precious few
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Speaker 1: bands who completely embody everything there is to say about
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Speaker 1: a generation. The Replacements had that level of rock stardom
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Speaker 1: waiting for them, and they fucked themselves out of it.
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Speaker 1: And yes, it's beyond cool to have seen the Replacements
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Speaker 1: at the rat and Kenmore Square back in nineteen eighty four.
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Speaker 1: But wouldn't it be cooler to be telling your kid
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Speaker 1: that this summer at Gillette Stadium while watching the Replacements
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Speaker 1: storm through decades of hits that now speak to generations.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe, maybe not. I like to think
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Speaker 1: so anyway, not everything needs to be gate kept. We
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Speaker 1: have plenty of Smiths and minute Men and Sonics and
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Speaker 1: Joy Divisions, so many bands that were great but never
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Speaker 1: cemented their greatness across generations at scale or whatever, I
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Speaker 1: feel like the Replacements could have been truly iconic. I
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Speaker 1: had Skyway on the stereo yesterday while driving to the
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Speaker 1: basketball court with my seven year old son, and he
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Speaker 1: asked me to play a Fleetwood Max everywhere. I wonder
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Speaker 1: what Paul Westerburg thinks of that. I don't know, but
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Speaker 1: I bet somehow he gets it. Anyway, speaking of icons Oasis,
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Speaker 1: the reunion shows are happening. Were any of you there?
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Speaker 1: Any of you at all? Last weekend at the gig
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Speaker 1: UK listeners. I know you're out there. You're the third
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Speaker 1: biggest country for disgrace Sland listeners. Someone out there is
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Speaker 1: listening to this. Who was at that show? And if
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Speaker 1: it was you, you are, as they say across the Pond,
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Speaker 1: a fucking legend. So call me and give me the review.
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Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six sixty three eight
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Speaker 1: Sabbath just played as well last weekend, their last show
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Speaker 1: the day after Oasis. I saw some of the footage online.
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Speaker 1: Looks incredible. Maybe you were there instead of Oasis, and
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Speaker 1: if you were, you know how to get in touch
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Speaker 1: as well. I want your review too, and I wanted
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Speaker 1: to know if seeing Oasis or Black Sabbath made you
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Speaker 1: feel like the dirty rock and roll animals you were
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Speaker 1: back in high school. These are the important questions that
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Speaker 1: we need to answer. Disc goes, so hit me up.
5:39
Speaker 1: Seawan Colmes still in jail, and boy did I blow
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Speaker 1: that one. Last week. I was convinced the judge was
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Speaker 1: going to let him skate, but looks like he's in
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Speaker 1: the Huskau until sentencing on October third. I still don't
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Speaker 1: think he's going to do serious time. It's a chance
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is going to happen, but there's
5:56
Speaker 1: a chance he could just get time served and just
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Speaker 1: walk in. OK, Tame, we shall see. I finished writing
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Speaker 1: my Brian Wilson episode on Friday, actually on Saturday. I
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Speaker 1: can't tell if it's good or not. Might have been
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Speaker 1: the hardest episode I've ever written. I'll tell you more
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Speaker 1: about it in a couple of weeks when it's released.
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Speaker 1: I'm reading about Jimmy Buffett, and man, oh man, was
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Speaker 1: this dude not the droid I was looking for. I
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Speaker 1: don't think I've ever been more interested in an artist
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Speaker 1: whose music I just don't like. That said, those first
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Speaker 1: three records are starting to get their hooks into me.
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Speaker 1: And if you have partial punk rock indie snow blood
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Speaker 1: running through your veins like I do, I promise you
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Speaker 1: you're going to love the Jimmy Buffett story that I'm
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Speaker 1: going to tell you. Don't believe me, just wait. This
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Speaker 1: story is not what you think it is so much more.
6:44
Speaker 1: What else is going on? My favorite character in the
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Speaker 1: Chris Whitker book that I'm reading that I've been telling
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Speaker 1: you guys about, he just died, and honestly, I feel
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Speaker 1: like I need to find a way to process my
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Speaker 1: grief here. Maybe a mock cremation, a pirate's funeral, perhaps,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It bummed me the fuck out, man.
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Speaker 1: You ever have that happen to you. You're reading your
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Speaker 1: book and you're just no, don't do wait, what are
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Speaker 1: you doing?
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Speaker 2: Man?
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Speaker 1: And then it happens and you're like, shit, Now, I
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Speaker 1: get the entire third act to go, and the dude's
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Speaker 1: just not there. Man, He's gone. Okay, there's no bringing
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Speaker 1: them back either. It's not that type of book. Whitaker's book.
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Speaker 1: The one I'm reading is called We Begin at the End.
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Speaker 1: His new book, which I can't recall the name of
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Speaker 1: at the moment, is number three on the Times bestseller list,
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Speaker 1: so I could just read that next. But I've got
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Speaker 1: Tom mcguine's Nobody's Angel queued up next to pair with
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Speaker 1: my upcoming trip to Montana at the end of the month.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully that book will come with less fictional grief. We
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Speaker 1: shall see. I've got Turnstyle, the new Turnstyle record, on
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Speaker 1: my turntable, and no matter what I do, I can't
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Speaker 1: get it off. I can't stop listening to this record.
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Speaker 1: It's never enough listening to the Turnstyle record see what
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Speaker 1: I did there. I'll have more on Turnstyle in the
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Speaker 1: exclusive section of this bonus episode, as well as a
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Speaker 1: little bit more on my time on tour with Tommy
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Speaker 1: Stinson from the Replacements that'll come up later in the show.
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Speaker 1: After that, next up in your feed after this episode,
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Speaker 1: we're revisiting Guns N' Roses Parts one and two, tracing
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Speaker 1: their rise of Corus Slash and Izzi's eighties and nineties
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Speaker 1: awesomeness and the weird, strange, juvenile delinquent id of Axel Rose.
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Speaker 1: And then next week quick refresher on our og Motley
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Speaker 1: Crue episode on Monday to set the groundwork for our
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Speaker 1: part two crew episode on Nicky six. Entirely, Yes, the
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Speaker 1: Nicky sixth story is so out of control the two
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Speaker 1: episodes were needed to get into all of it. Thanks
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Speaker 1: to Disco Chris on It for pushing me on this one.
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Speaker 1: When you're listening to that Nicki six episode, guys, be
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Speaker 1: thinking about this question. Is Motley Crue the greatest hair
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Speaker 1: metal band of all time? Which glam band makes you
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Speaker 1: want to drive faster, drink more, stay out later, never
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Speaker 1: leave that kegger out in the woods. I want to
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Speaker 1: know and if you can't stand hair metal, which hair
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Speaker 1: band do you kind of sort of maybe think is
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Speaker 1: all right? You might not like poison, but you can
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Speaker 1: tolerate Hanoi rocks. I don't know you tell me caller
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Speaker 1: Tech six one nine oh six six six three eight
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Speaker 1: will feature your picks in the next after party. All right,
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Speaker 1: that's everything that's in my head. Uh, I gotta take
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Speaker 1: a break. I need some tea. I need to drink
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Speaker 1: a little water. I'll be back in a minute with
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Speaker 1: your voicemails in your texts. All right, we are back.
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Speaker 1: every episode. All right. Six one seven nine oh six
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Speaker 1: six six three eight. You know where I'm at ham
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Speaker 1: in the phone booth, that's one across the hall. I'm
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Speaker 1: hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a
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Speaker 1: voicemail or a text, get at me six one seven
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Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. The question of
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Speaker 1: the week we're answering this week has to do with
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Speaker 1: the rep I asked you guys, are they I forget
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Speaker 1: how I freezed it, but it was basically like you
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Speaker 1: know what band. Besides, the replacements should have been huge
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Speaker 1: but was not. This call comes from the two seven zero.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Jake, two seven oh, Todd. I love this question.
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Speaker 3: I hope I'm not too late for it. I'm going
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Speaker 3: to go with the replacements, which is the subject matter
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Speaker 3: of your show. Also, honorable mentions will go to the
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Speaker 3: New York Dolls, who you have spoke about before, so
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Speaker 3: influential kiss Errol Smith. Most of the hair metal bands
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Speaker 3: owe something to the New York Dolls, as we all know,
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Speaker 3: and they just never really sold the many albums. I'm
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Speaker 3: biased because I love them. Honorable mentions will go to
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Speaker 3: Screaming Trees front of by Mark Lanagan, in my opinion,
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Speaker 3: one of the best bands from Seattle, if not the best.
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Speaker 3: Loved the questions, love the content.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jake, all right, Todd, thanks man. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: you well digging into the theme here. Replacements of course,
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Speaker 1: and I like your New York Dolls suggestion as well.
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Speaker 1: I also like the Mark Lanigan Screaming Trees piece of
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Speaker 1: it all because we've got a landag An episode coming up.
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Speaker 1: I think next, No, Nikki six is next, and then
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Speaker 1: I think after that or two after that is our
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Speaker 1: Mark Lannigan story. So that's coming down the pike just
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Speaker 1: for you. See we did that for you specifically. No,
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Speaker 1: we didn't, but you know we did. Just check out
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Speaker 1: this voicemail from the seven eight one.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Jake Chris here in the seven eight one. I'm
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Speaker 2: an unapologetic Replacements fan, so I had the pleasure of
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Speaker 2: meeting Paul a couple of times. Such a great guy.
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Speaker 2: I think they were severely underrated and or appreciate it,
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Speaker 2: especially during their heyday. See what I did there. They
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Speaker 2: were in the middle of the synthpop and hair metal eighties.
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Speaker 2: There's a couple of bands though, that I think about
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Speaker 2: that really should have been bigger, are even marginally successful.
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Speaker 2: One band out of Boston was Berlin Airlift later morphed
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Speaker 2: into Berlin the movie. Maybe the greatest band I've ever
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Speaker 2: seen in my life in my opinion. Also two other
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Speaker 2: bands from Boston that are severely underrated or underappreciated. One
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Speaker 2: would be the Del Fuegos and the other the legendary Neighborhoods.
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Speaker 2: Of course, Dave Minihan ended up playing with Paul in
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Speaker 2: a solo band, and of course, later in the twenty
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Speaker 2: thirteen replaced in Store. Great episode, I Love the Maps,
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Speaker 2: Love what you Do, Rock and Roller, Buddy.
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Speaker 1: Chris, Rock and Roller, Thank you so much, great call.
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Speaker 1: Yeah man, I felt like the replacements were good enough
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Speaker 1: to transcend all the hair metal bullshit that was going
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Speaker 1: on in the eighties. And you know, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if we'd agree or differ on this, but I think
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Speaker 1: the level of self sabotage from the band itself has
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Speaker 1: more to do with their lack of a breakthrough than
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Speaker 1: the actual scene that was going on at the time.
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Speaker 1: Love Love the Boston Rex here on band who should
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Speaker 1: have been bigger? Berlin Airlift? Was that Rick Berlin's band?
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Speaker 1: I never saw Berlin Airlift or Berlin the movie, but
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Speaker 1: I think that's Rick Bruin's band. And I've seen Rick
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Speaker 1: Brulin perform numerous times. I've even met him once or twice.
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Speaker 1: Super nice guy back when I was a doorman for
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Speaker 1: the Lizard Lounge way back in the day. What a
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Speaker 1: fun gig that was. Let's see what else what else
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Speaker 1: you got here? Let us talk about O. Yeah, course
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Speaker 1: you talked about delf Fuegos. I was just listening to
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Speaker 1: the Delfoegos the other day, listening to some eighties quote
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Speaker 1: unquote college rock had a mix going started by the
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Speaker 1: Long Riders, not from Boston, but a great band, and
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Speaker 1: it pulled up some great Del Fuego stuff. I was
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Speaker 1: listening to the Del Fuegos way way way, way, way, way,
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Speaker 1: way way way back in the day when they were
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Speaker 1: actually happening, when they were being played on FNX. I
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Speaker 1: think they're even being played on BCN at the time.
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Speaker 1: I remember the girl I was seeing back in sixth grade,
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Speaker 1: my girlfriend. She lives at the top of this hill,
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Speaker 1: like really high up in Clinton and from her house
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Speaker 1: you could actually get the wain X signal and it
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Speaker 1: was fantastic because you you listen to the Del Fuegos,
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Speaker 1: you get all kinds of stuff. It was great and
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Speaker 1: I still love him, still listen to him. Don't Run
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Speaker 1: Wild Baby, And of course Neighborhood's one of the most
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Speaker 1: incredible Boston bands of all time. And has there ever
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Speaker 1: been a more suitable replacement for Bob Stinson's energy and
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Speaker 1: mad cap rock and roll stage presence than one Sir
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Speaker 1: Dave Minihan of the Neighborhoods Guys a beast on stage.
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Speaker 1: Just incredible, great call, Chris, appreciate you real quick. From
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Speaker 1: the three one zero all the way out on the
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Speaker 1: West Coast.
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Speaker 2: Here we go, Jake, Jake does, Grace Land, Trace Marshall, Aloha.
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Speaker 2: Bands that should have been bigger. Question Love from Los Angeles,
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Speaker 2: the greatest of all time.
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Speaker 1: Arthurly and Love. It should be an episode. Good hand Aloha,
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Speaker 1: mister hand, I don't just I agree with you and
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Speaker 1: Arthur Lee and Love should absolutely be an episode. There's
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Speaker 1: some cool, juicy criminality going on there. I think there's
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Speaker 1: a connection between Arthur Lee or someone in love and
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Speaker 1: Bobby Bolsolet from the Manson family, And there's even more
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Speaker 1: juicy criminality going on stuff going on there with that story.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I love love just everything. You know. This
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Speaker 1: happens to me. It's happened to me my whole life.
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Speaker 1: There's a mix going on. I'm somewhere, I'm in a
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Speaker 1: bar on whatever. I just got a playlist going at
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Speaker 1: home with stuff I haven't heard before, and something comes
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Speaker 1: on and I'm like, what the fuck is this? Great?
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Speaker 1: It is love that's happened to me so many times.
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Speaker 1: That's a type of band there, incredible band. Appreciate you
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Speaker 1: three one oh five seven four text and hey Jake,
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Speaker 1: this is Michael from Mishawaka, Indiana. If I had to
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Speaker 1: pick a band that should have been big, I'd pick
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Speaker 1: Mute Math. Thanks love the podcast. I've never heard of
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Speaker 1: Mute Math. Tell me where to start? Okay? Are they
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Speaker 1: like a math rock band? Are they one of those
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Speaker 1: bands that you know, the guy looks like he works
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Speaker 1: in it. He's got to strap on a guitar, get
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Speaker 1: on stage, and then the pitt's gonna get really fucking violent.
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Speaker 1: Is that the type of thing we're looking at here?
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Speaker 1: Page Hamilton Vibes. What are we looking at? Who's mute Math?
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Speaker 1: How have I not heard this before? Four to four
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Speaker 1: Rohl Rights saying, hey, Jake, love this week's episode on
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Speaker 1: the Replacements. As for an answer to this week's question,
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Speaker 1: I have to go with Michael Stanley. Michael, along with
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Speaker 1: his band, The Michael Stanley Band, are rock royalty in
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Speaker 1: Northeast Ohio, but outside of that, he's virtually unknown. Despite
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Speaker 1: having collaborated with Joe Walsh, Todd Rundgren and others, did
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Speaker 1: a couple of top forty hits in the early eighties,
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Speaker 1: and Michael even had a cameo in the Drew Carey
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Speaker 1: Show episode where Drew is auditioning people for his band
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Speaker 1: but alas never send it to the levels of rock
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Speaker 1: stardom he deserved. Loved the show. Michael Stanley, It's like
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Speaker 1: on the edge of recognition for me, Like right there
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Speaker 1: at the recognition part in my brain, it's like it's
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Speaker 1: like dering, Like I can almost recall who Michael Stanley
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Speaker 1: and the Michael Stanley ban is, but then I think, wait,
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Speaker 1: was he in the Scorpions. No, of course he was
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Speaker 1: not in the Scorpions. I don't know where I Michael Stanley. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I guess hit me up. I don't know anything about
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Speaker 1: Michael Stanley. I like these recommendations of artists that I've
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Speaker 1: never heard of before. We can't recall. I should say,
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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys six one seven nine oh six six
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Speaker 1: six three eight on the voicemail in the text at
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Speaker 1: Disgrace Lamb pod. You want to hit me up on Instagram,
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Speaker 1: I'll answer you over there. You want to hit me
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Speaker 1: up on TikTok, I'll hit you back there. Same is
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Speaker 1: on Facebook, saying with X at disgracelam pod. You can
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Speaker 1: also email me Disgrace lampod at gmail dot com. Jason
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Speaker 1: Hunt writes and nice, short and sweet, Jason love it
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Speaker 1: would love a deep dive on Andrew Wood and Mother Lovebone.
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Speaker 1: You know this is one of those I gotta do it.
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Speaker 1: I gotta do it sooner or later. People freaking love
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Speaker 1: this guy, love this band. This gets requested so much.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that'll be coming up next. I'm not sure. We're
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Speaker 1: trying to balance out our schedule right now. We shall see.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the email, Jason. This email comes from Nicholas Phillips.
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Speaker 1: Nicholas says, hey there, it's Nicholas from seven to one
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Speaker 1: to three Houston. The band that should have been huge
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Speaker 1: to me was The Wildhearts, formed in nineteen eighty nine Newcastle.
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Speaker 1: From initially coming into the music scene, they have always
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Speaker 1: managed to just fall short of breaking through, usually by
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Speaker 1: their own volition, and have enough stories that they would
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Speaker 1: make a great subject to Disgrace Land. For over the years,
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Speaker 1: they've been lineup changes, drug and alcoholic problems, mental health issues,
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Speaker 1: which has led to such things as the band trashing
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Speaker 1: the offices of Kerrang magazine, having to drop out of
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Speaker 1: a US tour supporting ACDC Bassis, Danny McCormick having his
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Speaker 1: leg amputated in So I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at that,
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Speaker 1: just laughing at the laundry list of insanity here and
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Speaker 1: singer Ginger wild Heart spending time in a tie jail. Somehow,
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Speaker 1: the band is still going, having released their new album,
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Speaker 1: The Satanic Rights of the Wild Hearts to critical acclaim.
18:37
Speaker 1: So if you fancy listening to a band that sounds
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Speaker 1: like the bastard child of a three way between Metallica,
18:42
Speaker 1: the Beatles and Sex Pistols, you are in for a tree.
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Speaker 1: Keep up the good work and rock a rolla Nick, Nick,
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Speaker 1: thanks brother, never heard of the Wild Hearts. How's that possible?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Can't catch it all, Nick, You know,
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Speaker 1: I do my best. I try. That's what I have
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Speaker 1: you guys for, you know, help fill in the gaps,
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Speaker 1: all right, guys, be like Nick, Be like the other callers,
19:06
Speaker 1: the texters, the emailers. Okay, maybe you've been sitting on
19:10
Speaker 1: the fence listening and go, I'm like shit, man, I
19:12
Speaker 1: really enjoy when people call in and Jake engages with them,
19:16
Speaker 1: But I never call myself or you might say, you know,
19:20
Speaker 1: maybe say like God, damn, I really want to tell
19:21
Speaker 1: the story the thing that happened to me that I
19:23
Speaker 1: saw when I was at that show back in high
19:25
Speaker 1: school or maybe years. Read a great book I don't know,
19:29
Speaker 1: a great bio biography, autobiography and an artist, and there's
19:33
Speaker 1: some stuff in there that I'm not aware of. And
19:35
Speaker 1: you think, yeah, Jake's got a whole research team behind him,
19:38
Speaker 1: he knows all this stuff. Why would I tell them
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Speaker 1: I don't know all this stuff. And yeah, we have
19:41
Speaker 1: people who do research my dad, but you know, my
19:44
Speaker 1: dad's busy, he's got shit going on. He doesn't even
19:46
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast works for us, doesn't listen to
19:48
Speaker 1: the podcast. What's that all about? I don't know. Someone
19:51
Speaker 1: tell my dad to listen to the podcast anyhow. If
19:53
Speaker 1: that's you, If you guys got shit to say, I
19:55
Speaker 1: want you to know. I want to hear your voice.
19:57
Speaker 1: Your voice helps prompt me to dig in, to try
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Speaker 1: and uncover the stories that get buried, the real stories.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes their stories like I said that I'm not even
20:08
Speaker 1: aware are there. And sometimes there's stories with narratives that
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Speaker 1: are just too fucking convenient and not nearly as interesting
20:14
Speaker 1: and entertaining as the truth. And you guys, as I
20:17
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier in the B block when talking about Nikki
20:19
Speaker 1: six and I mentioned Disco Chris on it, you guys
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Speaker 1: sometimes propel me to find these stories and to bring
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Speaker 1: them to the forefront. So six one seven nine oh
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Speaker 1: six sixty six three eight, don't sit on the fence.
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Speaker 1: Give us a call, send us a text, Email us
20:36
Speaker 1: this Gray Sampod at gmail dot com. All right, let's
20:39
Speaker 1: dive into our sixty second sports rant and under thirty seconds. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Brian BeOS complete game gem for the Red Sox this week.
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Speaker 1: Aside this, this is how uninteresting the Red Sox have
20:50
Speaker 1: become for me this year, I'm about to talk about sailing, Okay,
20:57
Speaker 1: sort of this week. Twenty three years ago, on July seventh,
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Speaker 1: two thousand and two, NBA player Bison Deal as you say,
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Speaker 1: his name, d E. L E vanished on a Tahitian
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Speaker 1: sailing trip. How the hell am I just learning about this? Now?
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Speaker 1: Deal dated Madonna for crap six. It's believed this guy,
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Speaker 1: this NBA player, was murdered at sea. This story is
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Speaker 1: nuts and it is way too much to get into
21:21
Speaker 1: in under thirty seconds. But we will eventually get into
21:24
Speaker 1: it in Sportsland. Moral of the story. If you're in
21:27
Speaker 1: the NBA and dating Madonna, be careful out there on
21:29
Speaker 1: the high season. Be more interesting if you're on the
21:32
Speaker 1: Red Sox. All right, Matt, how to do? Did I
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Speaker 1: beat the buzzer?
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Speaker 3: Jake?
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Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a partial credit this week.
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Speaker 4: You came in under a minute, but not under thirty seconds.
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Speaker 4: You were about forty eight seconds there, So partial credit.
21:46
Speaker 4: And yeah, Bison Delea, that is a crazy story. The
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Speaker 4: former Brian Williams. He was on the Chicago Bulls championship
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Speaker 4: team and I want to say ninety seven before each
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Speaker 4: changed his name to Bison Delea. And yeah, it's a
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Speaker 4: crazy story. We gotta get into that one for sure.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a very short break. I will be
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Speaker 1: back in a flash. All right, guys, we're back with
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Speaker 1: you here in the after party. You want to bring
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Speaker 1: your attention real quick to the Hollywood Land podcast, where
22:28
Speaker 1: this week we are featuring Sharon Stone. That's right, the
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Speaker 1: one and only Sharon Stone, from casino to cannibalism and
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Speaker 1: back again. What you're asking yourself, what the hell is
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22:53
Speaker 1: True Crime lens on. This Sharon Stone story is intense,
22:56
Speaker 1: of course, as I've been telling you guys for the
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Speaker 1: last few weeks, and I are deep into these episodes
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Speaker 1: in our hollywood Land Rap Party bonus episodes, those those
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Speaker 1: drop every Wednesday, where every week you get another bite
23:09
Speaker 1: at getting your voicemails and text heard and played, and
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Speaker 1: you also get some movie related music rex from yours. Truly.
23:18
Speaker 1: I got to say, recording that segment of the Rap
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Speaker 1: Party with Zeth is one of my favorite work things
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Speaker 1: to do every week now because I get to talk
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Speaker 1: about music just for almost freely. I know it's tied
23:36
Speaker 1: to as sharance to whatever the actresses that were or
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Speaker 1: actor or director that we're featuring in hollywood Land that week,
23:42
Speaker 1: but I find ways to hopskip and jump around and
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Speaker 1: get to what just I want to talk about musically,
23:48
Speaker 1: and it's it's exercising this muscle that I don't have
23:52
Speaker 1: anymore because I don't I don't go to parties and
23:54
Speaker 1: just or go to the bar anymore and just sort
23:57
Speaker 1: of like talk shit about music. I get, I guess
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Speaker 1: I do it in a much more formulaic and structured
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Speaker 1: way and disgrace Land. But the conversation with Zeth is
24:06
Speaker 1: pretty free flowing around the recommendations, and I really look
24:09
Speaker 1: forward to it. Matt is going to queue up a little.
24:13
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll play that part of the
24:14
Speaker 1: rap party for you, but it's Matt, give a little taste.
24:16
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop talking here.
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Speaker 5: Jake is always going to start with you. What music
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Speaker 5: recommendations are you bringing this week?
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Speaker 1: Share Your Love by Aretha Franklin. Just a fantastic song.
24:29
Speaker 1: I think it's a Bobby Blue Bland song. I'm not
24:31
Speaker 1: exactly sure, but google this song. Also early seventies, I believe,
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Speaker 1: and it's the perfect sort of like deep cut Aretha
24:42
Speaker 1: that'll make you go like, how the fuck do I
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Speaker 1: not know this song? And it's so great she has.
24:48
Speaker 1: Her greatness is so great that like the shit no
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Speaker 1: one pays attention to is greater than everything else. That's
24:53
Speaker 1: the type of artist she is. She's amazing, and this
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Speaker 1: song is indicative of I think that exact point.
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Speaker 5: I don't know what that what record that's from, but
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Speaker 5: I discovered only recently her album let Me in Your Life,
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Speaker 5: which is that's the title of a Bill withersong, which
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Speaker 5: I think opens the record, and it's one it's sort
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Speaker 5: of outside that like quote unquote classic period, you know
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Speaker 5: of like respect and things and all that stuff. So
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Speaker 5: I always kind of ignored it. I was actually in
25:17
Speaker 5: my local record store and the owner was playing it
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Speaker 5: and he was like, do you know this now? I
25:20
Speaker 5: said no, and he was like, it's fucking great, and
25:22
Speaker 5: so I bought it and it's amazing. But to your point,
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Speaker 5: she is so great that there's so much stuff hiding
25:28
Speaker 5: in plain sight, right she did? It's crazy, all right.
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Speaker 1: So that's the wrap party part of the hollywood Land experience.
25:35
Speaker 1: If you want more storytelling like we do here in Disgraceland,
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Speaker 1: get over to hollywood Land and subscribe. I was talking
25:41
Speaker 1: about recommendations another music rack. I mentioned Turnstile earlier, and
25:47
Speaker 1: in the beginning of this episode, I get the record
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Speaker 1: right up here on top of my desk. What else
25:53
Speaker 1: I got here? Boem Machine, Tom Waits, DJ Shadow and
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Speaker 1: introducing great CD. These are CDs. By the way, Turnstylo
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Speaker 1: is the album is Vinyl. I'm going to be talking
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Speaker 1: about Turnstyle, the new record, the band, and the replacements
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26:20
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26:22
Speaker 1: myths that we're exploring. If you're near stalker level obsessed
26:26
Speaker 1: with the artists that we're covering, if you're in need
26:29
Speaker 1: of just to touch more nitty gritty around these stories,
26:32
Speaker 1: if you want a deeper, sometimes darker, sometimes more personal
26:36
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Speaker 1: We are back. Thank you for hanging out with me
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Speaker 1: in the afterparty today. I really appreciate it. Listen, if
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Speaker 1: you're new here, I say this every week. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: say it again. We got about two hundred and forty
27:41
Speaker 1: episodes on a gazillion different musicians artists in the Disgrace
27:46
Speaker 1: Land archive. If you need any help finding any of
27:49
Speaker 1: those subjects, people you're interested in that you want to
27:51
Speaker 1: hear episodes on, hit me up and let me know
27:53
Speaker 1: you know how to get in touch with me. Six
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Speaker 1: one seven, nine oh six sixty six three eight. The
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Speaker 1: archive is deep. It can be hard to find your
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Speaker 1: way around. This week we talked about in this episode.
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Speaker 1: We mentioned Madonna, We mentioned joyd Division, and we mentioned
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Speaker 1: the Misfits. We mentioned Tom Petty. Of course we have
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Speaker 1: episodes on three of those four. We don't have a
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Speaker 1: Joy Division episode. We have a New Order episode of course, Misfits,
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Speaker 1: Tom Petty and Madonna, like I said, and Matt will
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Speaker 1: have the show info on those episodes in the show
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Speaker 1: notes of this bonus episode make it easy for you
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Speaker 1: to find all right, let's recap, shall we. Number one,
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Speaker 1: This week's full episode on the Replacements is live and
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Speaker 1: waiting for you right now. Number two. Next up in
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Speaker 1: your feed, we are rewinding with our Guns n' Roses
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Speaker 1: parts one and two episodes. Number three up next week.
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Speaker 1: A brand new episode on Nikki six coming your way
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Number four Over in the Hollywood Land feed,
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Speaker 1: Sharon Stone, plus this week's wrap party with Zeth and
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Speaker 1: I unpacking the story, and a whole bunch of recommendations.
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Speaker 1: Number five, six, one, seven nine oh six six six
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Speaker 1: three eight voicemail and text dm me at gracelam pod
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Speaker 1: on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and ex discracelampod at gmail dot
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Speaker 1: com to email. Your voice helps uncover what is buried. Okay,
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Speaker 1: your takes they propel me into the dark corners of
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Speaker 1: music history, so keep them coming, all right, dig baby,
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Speaker 1: Let me know about the rock and roll animals you
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Speaker 1: want to hear about. Let me know about the myths
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Speaker 1: you want busted. Hit me up all right. Number six,
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Speaker 1: don't forget this because no one cares about music, books, records,
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Speaker 1: and the crime and grime that ties it all together,
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Speaker 1: like you do and well, that is a disgrace Rock
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Speaker 1: and Roller. On January twenty fifth, nineteen eighty six, the
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Speaker 1: Replacements famously bombed on SNL. Here's what didn't bomb that
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Speaker 1: week from the top of the Billboard charts. Number one,
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Speaker 1: That's what Friends Are For Dion and Friends featuring Elton John,
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Speaker 1: Gladys Knight and Stevie Wonder, peak position one weeks on
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Speaker 1: Chart twelve. Number two. Say You Say Me lionel Richie
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Speaker 1: last week two, peak position one weeks on Chart twelve.
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Speaker 1: Number three. Burning Hearts Survivor last week eight, peak position
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Speaker 1: three weeks on chart thirty number four. Talk to Me
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Speaker 1: Steve Nicks last week three seven peap position four weeks
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Speaker 1: on chart eleven, number five. I'm Your Man last week twelve,
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Speaker 1: pea positions five weeks on chart at nine, number six.
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Speaker 1: In My Hometown Bruce Springsteen last week eleven, peak positioned
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Speaker 1: six weeks on chart. A River of Seven Walks of
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Speaker 1: Life Sire Streaks last week nine pp position seven weeks
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Speaker 1: on the chart. Quit talking and start mixing.
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Speaker 2: Co