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What’s at Stake? Trump’s Math vs Real Math Guest: Candidate for Congress: Reverend Fredrick D. Haynes lll- Democrat nominee for TexasTrump’s Math vs Real Math · TMI

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  Speaker 3: From now until November 3rd, the TMI Show is asking
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  Speaker 3: one question.
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  Speaker 1: What's at stake?
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  Speaker 3: Because the midterm elections are quickly approaching, and what we
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  Speaker 3: do now reaches far beyond Election Day. Every week, my
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  Speaker 3: son and I are breaking down an issue that impacts
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  Speaker 3: our communities, our power, and our future.
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  Speaker 2: Voting is not the solution, but it's damn sure a tool.
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  Speaker 4: And between now and Election Day, all roads lead to
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  Speaker 2: And that's what's at stake.
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  Speaker 1: All right, my son.
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  Speaker 3: So we've got three more weeks for the election, for
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  Speaker 3: the midterm elections. Across the country, there are a number
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  Speaker 3: of very qualified candidates who are running, lots of progressive
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  Speaker 3: candidates who are running to try to take back the
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  Speaker 3: House and the Senate. And I'll tell you, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that people understand that the fight to dismantle all
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  Speaker 3: of what we have seen, which by the way, it
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  Speaker 3: will take decades before this country is able to even
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  Speaker 3: get back to where we were and we're never going
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  Speaker 3: back to exactly as we were. That's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: I say it all the time. This is going to
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  Speaker 3: be a new iteration of America. How we come out
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  Speaker 3: of it begins with these midterm elections. Because if we
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  Speaker 3: do not secure a number of seats across the country
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  Speaker 3: that blocks Donald Trump's agenda, what will happen is that
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  Speaker 3: MAGA will gain more power and ultimately they will cause
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  Speaker 3: more damage and they will begin to codify, solidify elections.
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  Speaker 3: the damage that has been done. And who knows in
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  Speaker 3: 2028 what we'll be looking at if these folks are
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  Speaker 3: able to, across the nation, gain even more power. They
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  Speaker 3: should not even be able to maintain what they have
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  Speaker 3: because we ought to be out there voting in numbers.
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  Speaker 1: That you can cheat and still not be able to win.
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  Speaker 3: And so we've been talking for the last couple of
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  Speaker 3: weeks about what's at stake in the midterm elections.
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  Speaker 1: But those people who say, well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it might not matter to me and it
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  Speaker 3: ain't going to change my life.
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  Speaker 1: It is changing your life every single day.
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  Speaker 3: And we started off this series speaking about corporations and
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  Speaker 3: corporate power and how it is harming our communities, that
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  Speaker 3: there is a MAGA mindset that's seeping into these various companies.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't even get a chance to talk about companies
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  Speaker 1: like BET.
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  Speaker 3: Where is the Black Entertainment Television Network around this election season?
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  Speaker 3: Usually we see BET out there in the communities. Many
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  Speaker 3: of us are brought in to do specials and, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and to participate in various activities to get out the vote.
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  Speaker 1: Am I right? Am I right?
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  Speaker 2: You're 100% right.
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  Speaker 1: We've not seen that.
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  Speaker 3: But you now have a parent company in Paramount, which,
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  Speaker 3: quite frankly, they are MAGA aligned. And it's very clear
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  Speaker 3: by the ways in which we have seen BET just
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  Speaker 3: disappear from the conversation when they had been a leading voice,
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  Speaker 3: especially around elections, major elections like the midterms. And so
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  Speaker 3: we see what's happening. If it was not important, they
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  Speaker 3: would not be trying to steal it. And they are
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  Speaker 3: actively attempting to suppress our votes. And so we talked
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  Speaker 3: about corporations and how corporations in this moment are harming
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  Speaker 3: our community in the first segment.
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  Speaker 1: The first week, the second week, last week, we.
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  Speaker 3: Had a powerful conversation with Tiffany Lofton, and she talked
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  Speaker 3: about higher education, looking at what MAGA is attempting to
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  Speaker 3: do through the use of their doctrine, Project 2025, to
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  Speaker 3: alter and in many ways dismantle much of the progress
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  Speaker 3: that higher education affords Black people specifically.
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  Speaker 1: And so we've covered that.
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  Speaker 3: This week, we're talking about the economy. What's at stake
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  Speaker 3: in this economy? What's at stake in this economy? There
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  Speaker 3: is a difference between Trump's math and real math.
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  Speaker 1: If you listen to this president speaking, and J.D.
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  Speaker 3: Vance and others around him, they are attempting to sell
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  Speaker 3: the American people that the economy is fine, that some
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  Speaker 3: people may be experiencing hardship, but overall, the economy is
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  Speaker 3: strong and the economy is fine. And if people can
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  Speaker 3: look you in your face and tell you that what
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  Speaker 3: we are experiencing, what we are feeling that our pocketbooks
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  Speaker 3: are are shrinking and.
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  Speaker 1: Our pockets are tighter. Our bank accounts have less money.
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  Speaker 3: Our expenses are through the roof and I'm hearing it
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  Speaker 3: everywhere I go.
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  Speaker 1: The hair salon, I'm hearing it everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. The
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  Speaker 1: nail salon, the.
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  Speaker 3: Friends, the cocktails, everything I do. I'm hearing people say,
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  Speaker 3: I'm making it work. We're going to find a way,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm having to shift things around. And if they
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  Speaker 3: can look you in your face and try to sell
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  Speaker 3: you on these phony and fake ideas that the economy
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  Speaker 3: is doing fine, it would go in the category of
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  Speaker 3: him saying that he loves the, what is it?
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  Speaker 1: The uneducated? You always correct me.
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  Speaker 2: The poorly educated.
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  Speaker 1: The poorly educated. So I'm just saying the economy is
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  Speaker 1: at stake.
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  Speaker 3: And today we have a guest that will be coming up,
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  Speaker 3: the Reverend Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Freddie D. Haynes III. He's going to be.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about his nomination now as for Congress. He will
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  Speaker 3: be going to Congress in just a few months. He
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  Speaker 3: has a general election. And one of his key priorities
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  Speaker 3: is to address the economy. Affordability is a crisis.
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  Speaker 2: There definitely is a crisis. And, you know, we all
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  Speaker 2: feeling it.
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  Speaker 4: Like you said, this president wants to put his hand
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  Speaker 4: over the sky and tell you that the sun ain't there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they're telling you that. Economic crisis is a hoax.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's just his new thing. Everything is a hoax.
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  Speaker 4: And if he can lie, he told you straight up
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  Speaker 4: that he could shoot somebody on 42nd Street and get
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  Speaker 4: away with it because y'all believe anything he says.
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  Speaker 2: This this president has built.
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  Speaker 4: A cult following of people that it don't matter what
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  Speaker 4: your eyes tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't matter what your pockets say.
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  Speaker 4: No matter how high your bills are or whatever, long
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  Speaker 4: as he tell you that it ain't happening, some of
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  Speaker 4: these people actually believe it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. People do believe it. And I think that.
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  Speaker 3: The, I was going to do a headline topic, but
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  Speaker 3: this is actually something that I think we could really
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  Speaker 3: think about is like delusion, right? Like we have to
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  Speaker 3: have a process of studying delusions. Because the level of ignorance,
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  Speaker 3: willful ignorance that these people are exhibiting is quite frankly,
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  Speaker 3: very scary.
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  Speaker 1: I was watching a recent Trump rally.
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  Speaker 3: And when I say recent, I'm talking about this was
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  Speaker 3: like yesterday or maybe the day before where they were
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  Speaker 3: interviewing people.
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  Speaker 1: Folks were at, you know, they were interviewing MAGA folks.
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  Speaker 3: People had the MAGA hat on and folks who were
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  Speaker 3: supporters at, the Trump rally. And they were saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't really believe in unnecessary war, but he's our
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  Speaker 3: president and he knows things that we don't know. And
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  Speaker 3: so we have to respect him and we have to
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  Speaker 3: follow what he's, you know, putting forth. You know, when
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  Speaker 3: I hear that, immediately I push back because I don't
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  Speaker 3: do that even with a president that I voted for
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  Speaker 3: who I support. I'm never going to just say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you're the president. So, you know, better than us. And
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  Speaker 3: therefore I just support you when I don't agree with some.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the difference between us and the MAGA followers
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  Speaker 3: that we are able, whether some people say, well, Trump
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  Speaker 3: and Biden.
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  Speaker 1: OK, cool.
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  Speaker 3: You can make comparisons, especially to all white folks. You
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  Speaker 3: can definitely make comparisons. Nevertheless, with the Trump. community, his people,
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  Speaker 3: his cult that he has, they don't even question it.
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  Speaker 3: They don't even question it. They literally will just go along.
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  Speaker 1: With anything that he says.
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  Speaker 3: And I am proud to not be one of those
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  Speaker 3: individuals that's just a follower to the point that I
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  Speaker 3: go along with anything that our elected official who I
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  Speaker 3: may have supported what they put forth.
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  Speaker 1: And so delusion.
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  Speaker 3: You also had a woman who stood up and said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, well, you know, I think these wars have.
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  Speaker 1: Gone on a little bit too long.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's it's harming our economy, putting us in
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  Speaker 3: a very dangerous place.
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  Speaker 1: But she's at the rally with the hat on that
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  Speaker 1: says MAGA. Bruh, you.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't no common sense. I'm trying to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: It's delusion.
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  Speaker 3: You have the hat on supporting the person at the
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  Speaker 3: rally knowing that they started a war where they're killing
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  Speaker 3: innocent people and You're standing here, you're saying, well, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't agree with these wars and maybe it's harming
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  Speaker 3: the economy, but I'm still going to rock the brand.
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  Speaker 3: You'll never say that that's what we did. If anything,
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  Speaker 3: we're part of the cohort. the Democratic National Convention or
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  Speaker 3: wherever we may be, the rally that is up there
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  Speaker 3: making a noise, shutting it down, outside protesting, having a petition, fighting,
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  Speaker 3: you know us, we be in the meetings outside the
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  Speaker 3: meeting that people can't see.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to organize folks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not walking around with no MAGA hat on while
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  Speaker 3: I'm sitting up here telling you that you start wars
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  Speaker 3: with other people, killing innocent people, and we can't even
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  Speaker 3: eat or afford the groceries and important things in our
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  Speaker 3: lives because of this.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 3: Then they bring a very, very brown person up here.
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  Speaker 3: And he says, you know, no, no, I think this
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  Speaker 3: is delusion.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I think I really think things
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  Speaker 1: are going to get better. I see it. Things are
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  Speaker 1: going to get better.
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  Speaker 3: We are going towards three years of a Trump presidency.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you know that they only get four years in
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  Speaker 3: each term? So when you say it's going to get better,
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  Speaker 3: are you saying that we suffer for three years and
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  Speaker 3: then in the last year, maybe things.
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  Speaker 1: Just turn around so much?
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  Speaker 3: So how can you undo millions of people out of work?
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  Speaker 1: How can you undo people?
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  Speaker 3: By the way, it has not even settled in yet
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  Speaker 3: what will happen when the big, beautiful, ugly, nasty, stank bills,
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  Speaker 3: the remnants of that, when the policies actually go into effect,
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  Speaker 3: where people are going to lose.
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  Speaker 1: Their health care, already folks are losing their food stamps.
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  Speaker 3: When people under that bill begin to experience the stress
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  Speaker 3: and the strain that comes along with the policies.
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  Speaker 1: In the bill. So when do you think it's going
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  Speaker 1: to get better?
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  Speaker 3: In the last 60 days, 90 days, the last six months?
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  Speaker 1: Tell me when.
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  Speaker 3: Because in order to undo the harm that has been caused,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to take decades.
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  Speaker 1: So the delusion of.
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  Speaker 3: These people, it actually scares me that we walk around
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  Speaker 3: in society with people who are your doctor, your lawyer,
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  Speaker 3: your community person, your elected official, somebody that you know,
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  Speaker 3: that you depend on for serious services.
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  Speaker 1: And they are people that are extremely.
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  Speaker 3: Delusional about Donald Trump and what he has done to
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  Speaker 3: America in two and a half years.
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  Speaker 1: It's scary to me.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's scary to everybody. I mean, it should be
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  Speaker 4: scary to everybody. And it's only not scary to the
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  Speaker 4: people who are delusional.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been paying attention to the news.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you've been paying attention, but they
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  Speaker 4: have this new bill that Senator Cruz is trying to introduce.
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  Speaker 4: And it's called the Protect College Sports Bill, Sports Act.
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  Speaker 4: And As I pay attention, I've been hearing a lot
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  Speaker 4: of athletes talk about it. I've been hearing, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of different entertainers talk about it. Heard about
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  Speaker 4: some rappers talk about it. And it's really crazy to
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  Speaker 4: me because just a couple of years ago, prior to
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  Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, athletes weren't even be able
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  Speaker 4: to be paid. Like college athletes, literally, who were the
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  Speaker 4: best athletes, who had dedicated all their time throughout history,
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  Speaker 4: elementary school, all the way past high school, you know,
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  Speaker 4: was the best athletes, going to school every day, practicing,
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  Speaker 4: investing everything into their craft, were not able to be
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  Speaker 4: paid and compensated. Because if you was compensated, it made
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  Speaker 4: you ineligible to actually go to the NBA. It made
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  Speaker 4: you ineligible to go to the NBA because at that point,
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  Speaker 4: you were a professional athlete. So once you became professional,
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  Speaker 4: you couldn't go to college either. So it limited a
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  Speaker 4: lot of things for you. So they just recently allowed
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  Speaker 4: college athletes to be paid and to work out certain
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  Speaker 4: deals to where they get endorsement deals or commercials and sneakers,
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  Speaker 4: all types of things. It just depends on how big
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  Speaker 4: of an athlete you are. They're based on what you're
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  Speaker 4: paid and your compensation and the endorsements you get based
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  Speaker 4: off your status as an athlete. So now what they're
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  Speaker 4: doing is trying to cap that status. I mean, cap
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  Speaker 4: that payment, right? So certain schools can't pay certain things.
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  Speaker 4: Then you can't sue the schools who are getting paid
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  Speaker 4: way too much off of your likeness. It's so many
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  Speaker 4: different things. And for me, when I'm thinking about it,
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  Speaker 4: when you say protect college sports, you're basically telling me
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  Speaker 4: that in order to protect college sports, that you have
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  Speaker 4: to make sure that black athletes aren't making enough money.
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  Speaker 1: All right, exploit it.
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  Speaker 2: Are exploited, right?
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  Speaker 4: So basically, in order for college sports to say, since
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  Speaker 4: we represent probably like 70% to 80%, especially in football
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  Speaker 4: and basketball, which would be the markets that they actually
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  Speaker 4: focus on, that you have to make sure that these
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  Speaker 4: kids aren't making enough money to where they have to go.
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  Speaker 4: So you want to keep us poor because the reality
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  Speaker 4: of the situation is Their white counterparts that go to
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  Speaker 4: these Division I schools, their families are pretty much wealthy.
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  Speaker 4: They're coming to school. They have the money. They have
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  Speaker 4: the resources. So they don't have to depend on this
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  Speaker 4: for their future. You know, they don't have to depend
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  Speaker 4: on getting these deals and getting this money. And the
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  Speaker 4: reality also is a lot of college athletes don't make
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  Speaker 4: it to the pros. You know, it's probably like one
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  Speaker 4: or two percent of them that actually go to the
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  Speaker 4: professional level. So they have to establish how they're going
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  Speaker 4: to survive in college. You know, so you're telling them
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  Speaker 4: that you're limiting the ability of them to feed themselves
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  Speaker 4: and their family and secure their future because you want
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  Speaker 4: to protect college sports. And I think it's just crazy
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  Speaker 4: to me. Every time I hear this new thing, I
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  Speaker 4: don't even know what the set of the crews have
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  Speaker 4: to do with this.
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  Speaker 2: Like, why are you even in this?
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  Speaker 4: I know why he's in this, because the billionaire college,
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  Speaker 4: you know, donors and the people who run these colleges
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  Speaker 4: who are making billions of dollars off of these kids
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  Speaker 4: are saying, hey, we need you to make some federal
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  Speaker 4: restrictions so these kids can't make too much money. So
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  Speaker 4: they need our schools so that we can continue to
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  Speaker 4: make money off of them and make sure that they
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  Speaker 4: know that they need us and we're able to restrict.
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  Speaker 4: And I think it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's really crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I would add a twist and tell you what I
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  Speaker 1: think the reason.
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  Speaker 3: I think what you said is one very good reason.
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  Speaker 3: But the second piece is that the billionaire professional sports
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  Speaker 3: organizations and companies do not want these young people to
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  Speaker 3: make enough money that they become more competitive in.
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  Speaker 1: Terms of which teams they will choose.
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  Speaker 3: Because you see, if, I'm already making two, three, $ 400, 000.
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  Speaker 1: A year in endorsements.
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  Speaker 3: And my, you know, my salary, my compensation, maybe some endorses, maybe,
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  Speaker 3: maybe 200, $ 250, 000.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to.
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  Speaker 2: Make it millions of dollars.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that. So that, that, that underscores my point, right?
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  Speaker 3: That if you're making.
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  Speaker 1: Two, three, $ 4.
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  Speaker 3: Million already as a college athlete, then it is harder
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  Speaker 3: for an NBA or NFL or, you know, for the
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  Speaker 3: white kids, because I don't know many of ours that
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  Speaker 3: plays in the NHL and in the, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: baseball MLB. And now we got to add in there
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  Speaker 3: the WNBA.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm already making a substantial amount of money then
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  Speaker 1: you got to come to the table with a real deal.
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  Speaker 3: You got to put something on the table that one
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  Speaker 3: is a solid deal. Two, I need to be able
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  Speaker 3: potentially to get more of my education.
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  Speaker 1: I am not rushing.
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  Speaker 3: To leave college so that I can't even read contracts,
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  Speaker 3: don't know how to manage my own business and having
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  Speaker 3: to depend on people to do all of that for
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  Speaker 3: me to be my brain. And many times these people
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  Speaker 3: will tell you that they are exploited because even their
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  Speaker 3: family members Most of the time, the kid who can
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  Speaker 3: jump or the kid who can hit or the kid
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  Speaker 3: who is a great football player, their parents come from
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  Speaker 3: regular communities where they never looked at a multi-million dollar
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  Speaker 3: contract in their lives. And they have to go seek
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  Speaker 3: out the people who are right in front of them.
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  Speaker 1: They bring you the agents. They bring you.
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  Speaker 3: The folks and tell you, check and, you know, talk
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: to these people, the control group of people and see
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: whether or not, you know, or who benefits you most
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: or who you like, who you want to work with.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And then you end up with somebody that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Eats dinner with the owners of these companies or at
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: least with their staff and teammates all the time.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: They play golf together. They go out together.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: And so you pretty much are boxed into being controlled
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: by a system that is running on your back.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: It is running to exploit you. So if you're.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Making enough money to be able to step back, you've
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: read some things, you had more time in college, you
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: got more education, your parents have had the opportunity to
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: take a class or two or find their own agents
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: because your money has allowed.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Your parents access to people outside of their bubble.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Now, our negotiation conversations look very different. And that is
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the trick that keeps on tricking because they keep you
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: in a circle and poverty at the root of it
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: will always produce people who are less informed and less
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: prepared to be successful in their own right.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And it also limits you.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: You know, I think what it does is it doesn't
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: force you to have to go to the certain colleges
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: that they want.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: You to go to. Right, that's what I mean.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: You know, if certain colleges who have normally been able
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: to outbid certain other colleges and create a narrative, if
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: you're able to come up and create deals outside of
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: just the college that you can get one or two million,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: then black people might start going back to HBCUs. You know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: they might say, you know what, we're already making enough money.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: We can go and bring our talent to the HBCUs.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: We can create our own commercials. We can market our own.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: We got our own money. And now it's not money-based anymore. So,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: you know, it gets a little more tricky. But I
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: just think there should be no regulation because these colleges
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: and the coaches are making millions of dollars a year.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Nobody is capping what they're making. So don't regulate with
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: these boys who have dedicated their lives to this sport
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: and have played at a high level or make it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. Let's jump right into our guest.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I love to run my mouth about some other topics,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: some other headlines. But today we need to hear from
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: a brother who's got plenty to do.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: He's this.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: He got weeks, weeks before becoming Congressman Frederick D.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Haynes, the third.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: And he will be following the tradition of many other people.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Who went to Congress and really fought for our rights.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: And John Lewis is one of those people that I
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: think of when I think about what Freddie Haynes can
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: be and what he can do. And so I'm excited
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: that he, as our friend, is joining us today on
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: the show. He has the premier social justice church in Dallas, Texas,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: the largest Black congregation, probably at least one of.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: They'll say, oh, what about? So one of the largest
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Black congregations in Texas, certainly in Dallas. And he's here
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: to join.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Us to talk about that old song that says, Ready
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: or not, here I come, Freddie Hing.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: So today we have one of our friends.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: You know, we love our friends on the TMI show.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: And I am excited because, first of all, I have
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: known you met Freddie in the recent years. And we
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: still call him Freddie. We don't get to Congressman Haynes
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: and all that. The you know, the more formal stuff.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: But I'm just talking about my friend, Freddie, that I've
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: known since I was a very, very young girl who
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: was just hustling, trying to figure it all out. By
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: the time my son met us, we already had, you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: we've become something already, Freddie. We was already doing a
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: little bit of something. But I, you know, I, you.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Knew me when I was, you know, really just trying
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: to find my way. And you have been a consistent leader.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: And so to invite you to be on the TMI
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: show today as a nominee, most likely to become the
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: congressional member of district, I think you're district 30 in Dallas, Texas,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: is very exciting for me and for all of your friends,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: because we on the text threads talking about you behind
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: your back and how excited we are that our homie
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: is about to be Congressman Haynes.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: So thank you, the Reverend Dr. Frederick D.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Haynes III for joining us today on the TMI show.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: No, thank you. My honor. I'm blown away. It's like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: it's really a beautiful thing when you are connecting with
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: friends in an interview, but then you start thinking about
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: just how wonderful those friends are. And, you know, as
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: you were saying, Tamika, we go way back.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking about, you know, meetings we were in and
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: how you were already connected demonstrating that, I mean, you
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: were going to be, you know, someone who was not
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: only conscious with a high justice IQ, but on top
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: of all of that, you know, you have this commitment
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: to the people that is unwavering. And it's like, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: I told somebody this last week behind your back. And
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: that is, I have a short list of people I
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: know who could never be bought off because in our
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: community and you were on that short list because you've
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: always been like that. It's like whatever you had to
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: do for the people, it was about the people, for
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: the people. And so, as you said, you know, we
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: start growing up and then, you know, this dynamic, dapper,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: brilliant brother, you know, my stone is killing the game
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: and we get to meet, connect with my brother. And
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: it's like, wow. And so for me to have this
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: conversation with y'all, it probably means more to me than
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: I can adequately convey because of the relationship and because
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: of my regard for your commitment to the people, your
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: commitment to justice. I mean, you are amazing. I mean,
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: you're just about it. And I got so many highlights
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: in my own memory that I can point to for
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: both of you where you really kept me going. And
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I just want to say thank you.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Well, I want to say thank you too, man, because
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: the work you've been doing forever is, you know, I've
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: always been just a fan of you. Like you said,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I've recently met you probably in the last five, between
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: five to seven years.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: But, you know, I've always been a fan of just
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: you all the way.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: You know, and I remember you coming to Louisville and
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: preaching in the church, man. You set that church on fire, man.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: So I was like, whoa, I see him online, but
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: just to see him in person and just watch how
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: you commanded that room and you brought that energy that
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: was needed in that moment was something that was amazing.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: You've always been one of the greatest preachers to me,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: and now you're stepping into this round. What made you
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: decide that you want to step into being in this
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: situation to run.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: It for Congress?
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Man, I appreciate that. And when you say Louisville, that
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: brings back so many memories. So I just want to
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: thank you all because that is an example of how
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: you stick to it until you cross the finish line.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: And as Ali says, shook up the world. So thank
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: you for that. For me, it's so ironic because last
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: year at this time, you couldn't have told me I'd
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: be doing this. As a matter of fact, I was
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: in prayer with our girl, Jasmine Crockett, because Jasmine was
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: praying about you know, running for Senate. And so the
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: more she talked about, you know, the House, the more
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: I was like, why would you want to do that?
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: And because the House, again, you know, she said to me, Pastor,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: I'm raising money. I'm doing this. I'm doing that. And
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: I want to serve the people, too. It's just a
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: whole lot. And so I felt her angst about the
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: whole piece. And then, to be honest, as word was
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: getting out that she was probably going to run for
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: the Senate, there was a groundswell that was building that started, ironically,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: in August because Trump had called his little brown-nosing governor
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: here in Texas, Abbott, and said, I need to put
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: you out on the streets to get me five seats.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: And so he pimped him for five seats. And we
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: had some hearings, one in Austin and one in Arlington.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: And so I spoke at both of them. And so
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: after I spoke, it was a trip. I had all
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: these folk coming at me like, man, we need you
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: to run for office. We need you to run statewide.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, you know, lost your crazy mind. I
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: have no desire. I'm out here speaking truth to power.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: I ain't trying to get in power.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: No.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: And so I said no. And matter of fact, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: had surgery in September. So I thought that would back
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: them off of me, but I bounced back quicker than
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: I planned. And then, you know, they're like, okay, pastor,
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: this is God. You back, you ready? And I said,
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: God ain't told me nothing like that. And then that's
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: when they said, okay, pastor, you've given us every excuse
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: for why you shouldn't do this, but you never told
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: us you'd pray about it. And I said, how are
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: you going to tell a pastor to pray? And these
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: are young activists in Texas who were telling me to
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: pray about this. And so as one of my members says,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: who's a judge, she says, you know, you weren't just drafted,
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: you awakened to a trajectory, to a call that God
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: had already put you on. So It's kind of all
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: the things the people help to wake me up to what,
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: you know, I feel this is a calling. And, you know,
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: here we are.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. I mean, do you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about how you feel later after you win.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: We'll go. We'll get into that. But, you know, how
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: are you? Just, you know, that's something that we don't
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: ask our leaders.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Is how are you emotionally through this process? What has
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: it been like to be, by the way, extremely busy?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Because that hasn't changed that you still have to pastor,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: you still have to lead people, you still have to
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: deal with the day-to-day of your church.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And then you are now taking on a role that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: During different times, definitely would be a different situation. It's
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: not to say that running for office at any time
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: is easy, but this is a time when people are
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: depending on you, not because they just want to see
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Freddie Haynes be the congressional member, Congressman Haynes. It's because
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: they believe that you have something special to fight against
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: the demons that are currently sitting in positions of power.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: So how is all of that weight on you?
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: So let me give it to you like this. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: love the way you just phrased it. As a matter
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: of fact, you've given language to what I've been trying to,
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: you know, process. And that is, you know, when I
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: get introduced places, what trips me out is the energy
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: is like crazy. I can literally speak at a church
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: or a gathering I spoke at last year. And when
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: they introduced me last year, you know, Frederick Haynes, nice applause.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: This year, when they say Democratic nominee, I mean, the
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: energy is electric and I'm like tripping. And that's when
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: it hits me. This thing is so much bigger than me.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: It's not really about me so much. It's that people
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: are investing hope. They're investing a belief that we can
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: defeat the demons. and reconstruct this country. And for me,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: that's been energizing. It's been uplifting. And I hate to
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: put it like this, but if this were a situation
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: where I was not running, I don't know if I'd
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: feel as good as I'm feeling right now. I'm feeling
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: good right now because of the energy I get Saturday,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: we hit a few spots. There was this 5K run
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: against breast cancer. And I mean, again, the energy was powerful.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: And then I went to another piece for Hispanic Heritage Month.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: And I mean, the energy is crazy. And so it's
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: just a fresh reminder. I have to be a good
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: steward of this energy, of this hope, because I'm telling you,
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: it's such a good feeling to know that people believe
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: and because they believe they are willing to invest their energy,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: their time, their limited resources even. And so, you know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: all of that has been for me just a gift
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: and a blessing that I don't take for granted.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: No, that's amazing. And I feel the same energy.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Like Tamika said, when we first heard that you were
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: running for office, we was like, You know what I'm saying?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: We were happy.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, I know that you probably was like,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: it's crazy. And a lot of other people was like,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: why would you do it? But for us, we understand
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: your commitment to our people. We understand your commitment to
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: what's right.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Just, just in, in, in just, in, quality for black people.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: And we understand that that's who you are, who you've
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: always been. Like, you know, we've been trying to convince
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Tamika to run for office and she's, she's, she's been fighting,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: she's been fighting that thing like tooth and nail.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: But when we heard you, you know, we were really happy.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: So as we talk about this race, you know, we've
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: been doing this series right now, Freddie called what's at stake.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And we're on right now. What is at stake
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: with our economy?
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: You know, as you run for Congress, what can you
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: tell people that they need to pay attention to because
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: this is at stake with the economy right now?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: So I'll put it to you like this. We are
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: witnessing President Pickpocket. And I want to kind of, you know,
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: exegete that because a pickpocket distracts you and robs you
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: of resources. And you're talking about someone who has made
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: at least $ 2 billion in this iteration of his presidency.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: So this is the second go-round, and he's already made
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: $ 2 billion in less than two years. And while he's
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: doing that, the economy is in shambles. I was sharing that,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, literally yesterday, and you know how it is
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: after church, I'm greeting the people, One person says to me, Pastor,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: there's a lady and she says she's with her mother
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: and she says that, you know, I need you to
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: pray because I got to make a choice today. Do
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I pay for her prescription or do I pay to
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: shop for her and get her some groceries? And I said, well,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: how much is the prescription? She told me how much
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: it was. And I'm like, this is insane. And so
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: immediately I'm trying to, you know, galvanize our people so
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: we can help her recognize, okay, you have a community
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: here and we don't want it to be a choice
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: between getting your mama's prescription and y'all having something to eat,
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: you know, for the next 10 days because the 15th is,
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: you know, our next paycheck. And so three persons after her,
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: who again, I'm greeting the people, three persons later, here's
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: a brother and the brother comes up, brother says, pastor,
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: thanks for the word today. gave me encouragement, and he says,
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: you know, because I came here, and I got to
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: be honest with you, Pastor, I didn't even have gas
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: to get here. I'm on fumes. I pulled in the
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: parking lot. I can't afford that gas out there. And
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: I said, so where's your car? And he told me
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: where his car was. I said, man, I can't let you,
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: you know, go out like this. Now, here's the thing.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: These are two examples of people who are in church
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: and And we can touch them immediately. How many people
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: can I not touch, you know, in church on Sunday
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: who are having this kind of struggle economically? So the,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: So the struggle is real. And so I heard someone
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: say that, you know, we talk about all politics is local. No, y'all,
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: politics is personal. It's personally eating us up at this
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: point because of the fact we got President Pickpocket, who
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: basically cares nothing about people who are struggling. To him,
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: what did he say? Affordability crisis, that's a hoax. Well, yes,
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: a hoax to you if you didn't make $ 2 billion
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: off of us. And so When I talk about politics
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: being personal, it's so personal. I had two people in
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: line yesterday who basically can't afford to live in this
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: country right now. And so I could give you all
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: the stats. What, 140 million Americans are economically insecure. I
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: could go there. We are in a real bad time economically.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: And the reality is that some people are one paycheck
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: one emergency away from economic disaster. That's why I don't
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: talk about, you will never hear me say on the
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: campaign trail anything about raising the minimum wage to $ 15
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: an hour, $ 20 an hour. That's crazy. I mean, who
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: can live on $ 20 an hour in New York City?
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: It don't happen. And that's why the Urban Institute, they're
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: now talking about what? A true cost of living wage.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: That's what we've got to fight for. But again, as
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: long as you have a party in power that cares
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: nothing about everyday people, working people. Roland Martin, a boy
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: like this, he says, you know, we're witnessing the defunding
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: of black America. And even Rachel Maddow, she did a
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: whole segment where she said the Trump economy has failed miserably.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: But the one thing Trump has done well is wage
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: war on black people. And that's Rachel Maddow. The only
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: thing he knows how to do and get right is
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: wage war on black people. Everything else he does is
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: a failure. And so if the failure on black failure.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: at large hits the economy and 600,000 black women who
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: had work a year and a half ago are no
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: longer working. And then our boy, Wes Bellamy, he just
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: came out with this powerful piece that says, okay, yeah,
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: we're concerned about the sisters, but guess what? The unemployment
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: rate for black men is over 7%. And on top
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: of that, 650,000 black men have lost work in this
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Trump pickpocket economy. So y'all, we are hurting economically. We
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: are hurting right now. And the bottom line is that,
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: I hate to say it, we haven't seen the bottom yet.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: This thing can only get worse as long as we
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: keep certain people in power.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I there's so many you covered some things that I
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: was thinking about is so much that I want to say.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about Everett Jackson, who is your opponent. And,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: you know, but I want to start here. In September
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: is when we returned to school in the north. So September,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I guess, third or fourth. I went to the doctor
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: and had a colonoscopy and my copay was $ 250. Now,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the reason why I bring up that that is the
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: time when we return to school is that if I'm
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: a mother with a child or children who have to
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: go back to school, And a decision has to be
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: made about whether I'm going to buy uniforms and school
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: supplies or get a colonoscopy.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: It's not that I don't want to get it.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: It's not that I don't know that it's important.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: It's not that this is this is not.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not hearing the news that colon cancer is one
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: of the number one killers of people under the age
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: of 50. It's not that I don't know all those things,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: but I am put.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: In a situation where I cannot.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Go to the doctor and take care of my health
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: versus my children.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Have immediate needs. You know what I'm saying? And so
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: we're living in, and by the way, they don't even
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: want to provide you with services that you can pay
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: $ 250 for. If it was up to this administration, we
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: would have to pay for the whole colonoscopy because that's
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: just how crazy. The time is that we're in.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: So when I saw that the first thing on your website,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: on your platform was economic security, That to me signals
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: you being ears to the ground. And the reason why
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I started off by saying I have so many thoughts
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: in my head is because it links directly to me.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: It was one of my questions.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Your members as the pastor of a church, you have
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: got to be one that has your ear to the
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: ground more than most people, because you are hearing from
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: fathers who are secretly are suffering in silence, unable to
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: maintain and keep up with the family and the weight
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: of all that they're tasked with trying to do. You've
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: got to be hearing from single mothers. You've got to
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: be hearing from elderly people. You've got to be looking
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: at our young people and how they're out here killing
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: one another and harming themselves.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: You you're involved in all that. We know you.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Marching with folks and rallying with people and going to
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: court and doing all these things. What what what what
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: when you were planning, when you all were looking at
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: your structure of what you are going to focus on
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: when you got into Congress, did your.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Church and your everyday experiences influence you?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: How you looked at your platform and how you set
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: it up and had economic security to be one of
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: the first things.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I really appreciate that question because, and I'm going
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: to tell you this, I got to say this to
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: lead into my response. Right now, to this day, as
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: a matter of fact, I'm driving the campaign office today
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: and we have what we call our Frederick Douglass Social
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: Justice and Community Services Center.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: And one of the.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Things that we do, that's where we, you know, have
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: our food pantry, clothing pantry, all that stuff. And so
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: sister who runs it, she was saying, pastor, I just
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: need you to be, I need to be honest with you.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: We haven't had this much of a demand ever, ever.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: I said, well, what about during the recession? Oh, seven
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: Oh eight, you know, during the Bush recession of Oh
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: seven Oh eight, she said, pastor, I'm gonna say it
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: one more time. We've never had a demand like this.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Our community is hurting more than at any time in
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: the ministry of this church. And she said, and in
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: my lifetime, it's called on my way to the campaign office.
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: And so I'm saying that, you know, in response to
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: your question, not only is it relevant now, but when
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: we were, you know, praying about, okay, what, What's our vision?
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: What are we looking at doing? One of the things
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: that I decided to do was listen to people. And
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: so we've had listening session after listening session. So when
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: you look at my platform, that basically comes from I'm
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: translating digitally what I've heard from the people. And it
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: just really hurts me because and when you were talking
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: about Tamika and I felt this profoundly because last week
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: I had to go. for a follow-up exam for a
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: surgery I had last year. And so you pull up
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: to the hospital and you already got to pay all
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: this money. And then you pull up to the hospital
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: and you got to pay for parking.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, seriously.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: So, so you already taken money from me. Uh, I
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: know this hospital is making big money and now you
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: want parking and, and, and there's nothing you can do,
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: but give up the money. And so it's, it's, it's
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: like a racket that is robbing us continuously just to breathe,
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: just to live, just to try and be healthy. And
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: so for me, the, the, the, Economic security is real.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: And in a listening session I had recently, you know,
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: I was asking some people who I really trust what
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: they felt should be the mission. Matter of fact, our
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: wonderful friend, your amazing sister, Linda Sarsour, she came to
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: the office several months ago and she said, Pastor, I
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: need you to understand something. Congress, and this is your girl,
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: so you know what she's about to say, Congress is
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: where good people go to die. And she says, but
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: to survive it, you've got to stay on mission and
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: you've got to be connected to the community. And I'm
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: keeping that. So I'm continuously listening to the community. And
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: one of the things the community is feeding me by
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: way of mission is, OK, you're Reverend Dr. Frederick D. Haynes,
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: the third. You're a vicarious protege. of Reverend Dr. Martin
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: Luther King Jr. When he died, he was fighting for
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: economic security. He was waging a war on poverty. You've
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: got to pick up that mission. As a matter of fact,
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: one of the most effective congressmen in the history of
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Congress is the Reverend Adam Clayton Powell Jr. And you
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: don't have a great society and all the programs that
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: came out of that without legislation that was engineered by
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: Reverend Adam Clayton Powell Jr. And so because I have
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: that value system, I was hungry, did you feed me? Thirsty,
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: did you give me drink? For me, economic security has
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: to be a priority. And of course, you can't have
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: economic security if there's no healthcare justice. And so because again, healthcare,
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: and Tamika, I'm in Texas, which leads the nation in
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: the number of people who are uninsured. And so we
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: have to fight for, I mean, economic security and health
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: and health care justice. You can't separate them.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Now, there's so many so many issues that intersect.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Right. My son, when we were preparing for your interview,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: my son was like. You know, do we talk about
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: economic justice or should we.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Talk about this or that? I mean, it's so many issues.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: And he said, well, let's make sure he gets an
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: opportunity to talk about other things.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: And before you get into that and then we'll let
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: you go. I would love to hear about your MAGA
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: influenced homie. You know, he's the homie of the MAGA people.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: I think that's like the biggest the biggest oxymoron in
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: the world.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: To be Black and MAGA at the same, it doesn't
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: even make sense.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: And I asked AI, we do use AI here. We
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: try to use it responsibly, but we do use AI.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: We state that our position is that AI is not
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: going to leave our communities behind.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: It's not going anywhere.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: And we do have to have regulations, strict regulations, I believe,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: that really can help to protect communities However, they're going.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: To continue to expand AI.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: And I don't want to look up one day and
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: our communities are leaning back this way, trying to get
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: it together and figure out how the world has.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Left us behind. So sometimes we go.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: And then what I always tell my son is that
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: AI is, you know, I do use some of the
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: black platforms at times, but I'm not I am not a.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: a AI connoisseur. I'm not so great. So I only
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: got two or three. I call them, I'm checking the
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: white folk information. Cause you know, when black people say it,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: don't people don't listen to us. I go on there
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: to see what white folk are saying. So I asked
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: AI whether or not Everett Jackson, is MAGA aligned, right?
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: And they could have came back and said, well, looking
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: at the platform, not really, da-da-da.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: It said yes.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Flat out yes, period. MAGA aligned, supports Trump, and believes
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: in all that crazy foolishness that we are hearing from
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: these MAGA folks. I just wanted to hear from you
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: really quickly, what distinguishes you from Everett Jackson? What would
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: you say are some of the important things that distinguish
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: you from him? Now, we know one of them is,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: as my son said, being Black and MAGA is kind
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: of crazy in and of itself. So you tell us
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: what distinguishes you from him.
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'll just say, and I'm going to use this,
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: my son, thank you, oxymoronic, and I know I spent
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: a lot of emphasis on moronic. I'll try to back up.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: But yeah, so, I mean, A, I'm anti-Trump. If Trump
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: is here, I'm there. Trump is lying, I'm for truth.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: And so when anyone, and I'll just say there's anyone,
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: but especially someone who has some melanin, who is gifted
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: with melanin, is... running with Trump, I mean, and proud
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: to be MAGA. And so, you know, I recognize that
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: Make America Great Again, America has not been great. And
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: for me, greatness has to do with my faith tradition,
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: which is rooted in service to the least of these.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: It's rooted in Again, I was anointed to preach good
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: news to the poor, those who've been made poor by systems.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: I actually believe that poverty is the result of systemic injustice.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: I actually believe what Martin King said. toward the end
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: of his life, that it's one thing on the Jericho
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: road to feed a beggar. It's another thing to remove
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: all of the difficulties on the Jericho road that make poverty,
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: that make it easy for someone to get beaten up.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: And so Dr. King talked about the fact that you've
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: got to question an edifice that produces poverty, a structure
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: that that produces poverty. Trump and his acolytes, like my opponent,
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: don't believe that structural injustice produces poverty. Also, again, I
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: was anointed to preach good news to the poor, but
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: also to set the captives free. I am of the
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: belief that we have a system that has set up.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: And I think I have an author who I love
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: so much. Her name is Tamika Mallory. She's written a
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: book called State of Emergency. And one of the things
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: she does is brilliantly indict our criminal justice system because
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: we're in a state of emergency because of a system
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: on the front end of policing that protects and serves
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: some communities while over-policing and surveilling other communities. My opponent
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: is on the side of we want to give more
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: to cop cities. We want to make sure that we
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: do all we can to over-police targeted areas. That's what
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: he's about. I believe that we ought to have what?
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: Universal health care. My opponent does not believe in Medicare
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: for all. I believe that there is something sick about what?
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: A country where you basically, your life expectancy is determined
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: by your zip code and not your genetic code because
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: of environmental racism. My opponent ain't down with that. My opponent.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: is a part of a party, a part of a
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: party in this state. They're against defunding the police, but
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: guess what? They defund public education. We have a state
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: that defunded public education under the governor of this state
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: who basically said, we're gonna take money from public education
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: and put it in vouchers for private schools. My opponent
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: is down for that. And so all I'm saying is
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: I'm about educational justice, economic justice, healthcare justice, social justice.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: I am about justice. And I guess that makes my
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: opponent about injustice.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Listen, man, you could drop the mic as you always
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: do with that right there, man, because the reality is
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: that that's the energy that we need. you know, that
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: the American people need, that Texas needs right now. So,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: you know, we definitely got your back. What can people
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: do to help you right now? You know, it's only
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: a few more weeks until these elections.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: What do you need for people to do right now
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: to go out and help you?
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: No, and again, I can't thank you all enough for
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: this conversation and just for all y'all do. I just
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: really appreciate you. When Martin King talked about being the
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: drum major for justice, that's what I see you all as,
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: our drum majors for justice. So thank you. very much
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: for this conversation. You help me by helping us by
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: making sure you're registered to vote. And because they cannot
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: beat us unless they cheat us, don't just register to vote.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: I need you to check your registration every single day.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Check your registration because, again, they're going to cheat. I
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: don't know about y'all, but I'm feeling the same environment
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: that was leading up to January 6th. And so as
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: far as I'm concerned, we have to do our preventive
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: measures by registering the vote, by protecting the vote, by
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: checking our registration, and then organizing ourselves so that we
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: have a voting plan. I'm asking everyone to get at
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: least eight people in your crew. who you are in
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: conversation with, who you bring to the polls with you.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: Why do I choose the number eight? Because they say
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: eight is the number of new beginnings. And I'm believing
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: that by November 3rd, we're going to be heard and
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: have a new beginning where we reconstruct this country. And
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: so I'm asking us to please register to vote, educate
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: yourself about the real issues, because the bottom line is
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: we are living today in the consequences of the election
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: of 2024. Elections have consequences, they say. And we're feeling
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: the consequences right now. So the fact that you can't
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: afford groceries, you can't afford to get gas, you can't
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: afford this. It's a consequence of elections. We can read.
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: I got I got to make up a word. So
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: forgive me. I'm a preacher. We can re-consequencify this country
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: by November 3rd by basically undoing the damage that was
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: done in 2024. And so please do that. And then
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask you this, I'll just be honest with you.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: And that is whatever else I've discovered, it cost to
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: run a campaign, it cost to get elected if you
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: want committee assignments. And I just wanna say to all
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: of us, please, I believe strongly the old folk are
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: on to something. If you pay the piper, you call
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: the tune. I don't accept money from certain groups because
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: I don't want them calling the tune. I want the
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: people to call the tune, and that's the music that
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: I want to play. I want to play music of justice,
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: music of educational justice, economic justice, healthcare justice. I want
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: to play that kind of music. And there are people
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: who don't want that music paid. And so I'm asking
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: you to please go to HaynesForCongress.com and we are accepting
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: your gifts. Please go to HaynesForCongress.com and help us out.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: And please, y'all, we have to get engaged in not
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: just voting, but we also have to organize, mobilize, and
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: we have to invest in those candidates who whose vision
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: is consistent with the needs of the people.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Thank you so very much. I want to tell you.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: That you can safely say that more than a million
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Black women have been pushed out of the workforce since
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump's presidency. Our sister Congresswoman, who you will be
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: joining in Congress, Ayanna Pressley, has a crisscross in this
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: country talking about the economic crisis that Black women face.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: And Black families are experiencing. And what she.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Says that we know is that when Black women are struggling,
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: when Black women don't have money, the entire economy is
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: just moments away from crashing because we hold up the
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: entire foundation of this nation on our backs. And to
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: know that Black men, thank you for shouting out our brother,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: Wes Bellamy, whose report is so powerful because it gives
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: a snapshot, not just into what's happening in the Black community,
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: which is devastating, but a snapshot into where America is headed.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: And we need people like you to go to Congress.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: You are the pastor of the premier social justice church.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: there in Dallas, Texas, one of the largest churches, the
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: black church in Dallas.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: And you are now.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Taking the talents of the people, the energy of the people,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: as you said, the knowledge of what is happening on
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: the ground And you are going to take that to
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: fight alongside others because people who will say to us, well,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: you know, ain't nobody in Congress doing anything. And there's
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: no that's not true. There is there's a group of
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: people in Congress that are. fighting every single day for
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  Speaker 3: real change. And I put Ayanna Pressley up there as one.
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  Speaker 1: Of those who needs... She's a real one. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: She needs the support and the alliances of others who
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  Speaker 3: have like-minded, progressive ideas to get in there and fight.
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  Speaker 3: And there are others, and I don't want to get
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  Speaker 3: in trouble, but Ayanna's my girl. So, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to talk about her.
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  Speaker 5: That's my girl.
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  Speaker 1: That's my girl.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We have such.
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  Speaker 1: We're inspired by you.
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  Speaker 3: We I don't want to say high hopes because we
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  Speaker 3: already know what you're going to do. We don't put
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  Speaker 3: no extra pressure on you, but we know what you
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  Speaker 3: will do. And we know that we will be proud
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  Speaker 3: of what happens when you go to Congress. And we're
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  Speaker 3: going to be there, as you know, every step of
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  Speaker 3: the way.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing I.
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  Speaker 3: Can promise you that our friends that are elected know
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  Speaker 3: this all over the country. I'm your friend when you
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  Speaker 3: pass the Hanes. But when you become Congressman Hanes, I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to be one of your kind of constituents.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an American citizen. And I will call you and say, what.
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  Speaker 3: The hell is going on up there? And we'll come
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  Speaker 3: to your office if we have to. Because when you
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  Speaker 3: get there, there's a lot of pressure. That's the reason
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  Speaker 3: why my son mentioned earlier that I don't want to run.
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  Speaker 3: It's not that I never, I may never, it's not
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  Speaker 3: that I will never run.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But right now, I am not in a space where
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  Speaker 3: I want to negotiate. I want you all to negotiate
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  Speaker 3: and for me to help continue to lead the pressure
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  Speaker 3: to keep the negotiations going. honest and to keep it
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  Speaker 3: on our side. And so that's where we are. We
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  Speaker 3: need different levers. We need inside.
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  Speaker 1: We need outside. We need high. We need low. We
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  Speaker 1: need under. We need above. We need all things working
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  Speaker 1: together and they all work together for God's good.
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  Speaker 3: His word is going to be. what leads us through
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  Speaker 3: all of this. And on the other side of it,
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  Speaker 3: what we know is that we cannot fail if God
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  Speaker 3: is on our side. So I think we got the
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  Speaker 3: best me going to Congress. Thank you, Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Haynes.
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  Speaker 2: We got one of God's men. Appreciate y'all. Appreciate y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Much love to our brother, the good Reverend Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Freddie Haynes, man, and soon to be Congress member Haynes
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  Speaker 4: for his interview and his insight.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just love for our people, man.
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  Speaker 4: I've always been a fan of Freddie just as a preacher.
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  Speaker 2: But when I got to meet him, he's just such
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  Speaker 2: an authentic individual.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And he loves us for real. And you can feel that.
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  Speaker 4: You can see that. Like he said, there's only a
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  Speaker 4: few people that he feels that would never sell out
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  Speaker 4: our people. I feel he's on our short list or
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  Speaker 4: definitely my short list. I can't speak for you. But
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  Speaker 4: he's definitely on my short list as one of those
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  Speaker 4: individuals as well. So, you know, I'm rooting for him.
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  Speaker 4: And we want to do whatever we can to support him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like I said, I've known him
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  Speaker 3: a long time, so this is not a shock to me.
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  Speaker 3: I think you picked up the right thing about him.
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  Speaker 3: His character has always been super authentic. He's not a
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  Speaker 3: showy guy. He's not he doesn't look for attention. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: he's pretty quiet, pretty much gets to himself, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But I think this is the right move for him.
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  Speaker 3: I know this today. Not that I mean, obviously, we
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  Speaker 3: spend time with him as friends. So we know that
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  Speaker 3: he talks and he's, you know, a joyous individual. But today,
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  Speaker 3: the start in his eye, like the spark for, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we got to get this.
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  Speaker 1: Done and we're going to get in there and fight.
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy to see that because you have to start
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  Speaker 3: with it because there are going to be so many
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  Speaker 3: moments when his eyes will be tired. When his eyes
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  Speaker 3: won't have that, it'll be a look of despair. And
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  Speaker 3: that's because that's where we are. And that happens no
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  Speaker 3: matter what administration you're under. If you're Black and you're conscious,
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  Speaker 3: ain't many people or many administrations that's going to go
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  Speaker 3: overboard to handle the issues and concerns of Black folks.
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  Speaker 1: But in Freddie's situation... he's.
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  Speaker 3: Going into Congress at a time when you got people
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  Speaker 3: who are actively working against us every second of the day.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm glad that he understands.
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  Speaker 3: It's sad that so many people don't, that this is intentional,
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  Speaker 3: intentional assault against Black people and our rights. And that's
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  Speaker 3: something that's consistent that he said. And also last week,
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  Speaker 3: Tiffany Lofton said, talked about the same thing on the,
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  Speaker 3: what's that state, MAGA versus education, higher education. It's the
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  Speaker 3: same exact thing. All of these things are designed to
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  Speaker 3: target us as Black folks. From immigration, which people will say,
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  Speaker 3: what that got to do with me?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not an immigrant.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, guess what?
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  Speaker 3: The plan is to remove many immigrants and then give
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  Speaker 3: us the black jobs that they have decided is the
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  Speaker 3: only place that they want us to be at the
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  Speaker 3: level in their minds of which we are now finding out.
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  Speaker 3: that you could sit there and say that farming is
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  Speaker 3: a black job and you want to send us to
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  Speaker 3: the fields and try to diminish the value of Mexicans
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  Speaker 3: and other people that's out there. But now that there's
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  Speaker 3: food shortages and now that there are farmers who are
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: having severe issues with addressing the needs in order to
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  Speaker 3: be able to produce on their farms and also to
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  Speaker 3: get the products to market, I bet you we don't
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  Speaker 3: think that the Mexicans and the immigrant community and the
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  Speaker 3: people that was out there farming, I bet you we
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  Speaker 3: don't look at them and diminish their value now. I
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  Speaker 3: bet you those farmers is out there like, I need
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  Speaker 3: my workers, I need my people. So when we sit
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  Speaker 3: as a community of Black folks and we sit there
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  Speaker 3: and look at farmers and again, immigrants and others and say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I would never, and they ain't, that's beneath me and
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  Speaker 3: that's their problem.
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  Speaker 1: That's their problem. Well, guess what?
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  Speaker 3: All of us are going to suffer because when you
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: go in that grocery store and the milk is high
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  Speaker 3: and the groceries are ridiculous, part of the problem is
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: those people who you don't care if they're being deported
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  Speaker 3: for nothing, when they're actually doing their job, when the
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  Speaker 3: majority of them are lawful citizens that are paying their
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  Speaker 3: taxes and doing work that benefits all of us.
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  Speaker 1: And you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Care that they're being disappeared, literally kidnapped, some of them
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  Speaker 3: killed and sent wherever around the world with places that
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  Speaker 3: they didn't even come from. When you think that's okay,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: because it's not you, you just need to know that
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  Speaker 3: the ultimate plan is to shift things on the, on
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  Speaker 3: the board, on the monopoly board and That belongs to
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  Speaker 3: the rich and the powerful. They're shifting things around so
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  Speaker 3: they can ship your black ass right into the place
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  Speaker 3: that you don't. You're not so concerned about because that's
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  Speaker 3: just the immigrants.
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  Speaker 4: 100 percent correct. Couldn't have said it better. You know,
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  Speaker 4: once again, we are in very serious times. I'm glad
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  Speaker 4: that we're doing these episodes about what's at stake. You know,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: because as much as we're educating our followers and our listeners,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: we're actually educating ourselves on some things that we didn't
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  Speaker 4: even know. Like when you talk about Tiffany and the
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  Speaker 4: way that she broke down systemically how they're really targeting
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  Speaker 4: certain aspects of education, how it's really affecting us. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it was educational, man. Then listening to Freddie and how
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  Speaker 4: he talks about the economics and And he talks about
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  Speaker 4: how his congregation is being affected by it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the story about the young man who didn't
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  Speaker 2: even have gas that just got there.
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  Speaker 4: Like, and I understand that, you know, even though I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: may be doing a little better than the average person,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: I'm really seeing the seriousness of finances right now. Like
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: kids is like, hey, we hungry. I'm like, well, we
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: just not going out every night to eat. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to buy some expensive ass groceries. That's going
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  Speaker 4: to get us about five or six meals other than
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: the one meal. Because even though the groceries is expensive,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: the people that's cooking in these restaurants is even more
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: because they buying it from the grocery store and they
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: got to make they got to make some money. So
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  Speaker 4: this understanding the times we're in and the seriousness of it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm glad that we're taking the time. And
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  Speaker 4: I believe that we are poised in this election to
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  Speaker 4: make some serious change. But we have to be focused.
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  Speaker 4: We have to make sure that all of our people
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  Speaker 4: are registered, that they understand what's at stake. They understand
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: where to go to vote. We got to make sure
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  Speaker 4: that we dot our I's and cross our T's.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, I say this is the
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  Speaker 1: last point.
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  Speaker 3: When you talked about and I wish I brought this
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: up during the interview. When you talked about Freddie's member
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: who did not have gas, but he made it to
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: church anyway. He didn't just go to church because it
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: was a club or a party going on. He made
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: it to church because he believes that there is. something
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: in that space that can help him to get the gas.
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  Speaker 3: This is very bare bones serious.
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  Speaker 1: And I just am.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm just in a space where I feel
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: like the wrath of God is going to come down
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: on these people at some point. Because this is being
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: done intentionally. It does not have to be this way.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: There have been economic crashes, if you will, in the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: past that were not so much not in our control because...
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Judicial responsibility and all of that has always been an issue. America,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: we spend more. Everything is overblown. Our health care system,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: everything is taxing and pulling is weighting down on our
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: on our economy. And it makes the debt high and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: all that. So we understand that. that there's plenty of
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  Speaker 3: reasons to go around of why we don't have the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: money we need. Part of it is we send money,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: and this is not a Republican thing. This is Democrats
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: and Republicans alike. We're sending money to fund wars and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: to fund Israel when we should be spending money on
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: making sure that our children have food and proper health
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: care and the things that we need here. But this
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: particular administration, They didn't have to come into office and
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: start forcing black men and women out of work. They
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: didn't have to come into office and immediately go at
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: the DEI and do those things that's harming our communities.
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  Speaker 1: These are choices.
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  Speaker 3: And it's because they want the top one and two
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  Speaker 3: percent to be pretty much the only ones that have
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: any access to wealth in this nation.
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  Speaker 1: And they want the rest of us to work for
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  Speaker 1: the one and two percent.
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  Speaker 2: You're 100 percent correct.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we definitely have to focus on, they always say, MAGA's,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: you know, quote is supposed to be America first. And
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: it's everything but America first. It's rich people first. It's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: Israel first. It's war first. It's everything but the American
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: people who are supposed to be the ones that they're
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: supposed to be protecting and providing for. So with that said,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: we've come to the end of another episode. Make sure
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: you continue to support us. We love all of our followers.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: Continue to let us know what you want to hear.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: We hope that you're focused on these midterms because they
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: are very serious. Make sure that you look at your
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: voting status, know where you vote at. Look at who
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: is being who's running for office. Find out what they're
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: running on, what the platform consists of. Be aware of
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: what's going on. We are too old. We are in
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: too serious of a time for you not to be
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: aware of what's going on in America. A lot of
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: people keep telling me that, oh, it don't matter. If
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: you do not know by right now, when you go
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: into these grocery stores and you stop at that gas
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: station and you look and they're charging you $ 4.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: 50 for gas.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: When you realize that you're only getting three gallons and
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: you look and you just spent $ 50 and it don't
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: even go up to the halfway, mid-mark of the halfway,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: and you don't realize that that's because you're not voting
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: or you're not invested in it, then I don't know
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: what to tell you. but we're in real serious times.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: So please make sure that you register. Please make sure
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  Speaker 4: that you vote. Please make sure that you know who
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: to vote for because your life depends on it. I'm
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: not going to always be right.
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  Speaker 2: Tamika D.
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  Speaker 4: Mallory is not going to always be wrong, but we
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: will both always, and I mean always, be authentic.
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  Speaker 1: Peace.
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  Speaker 2: Salute.
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