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Roswell: The Last Testimonies · HOLOSKY PODCAST

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[SPEAKER_02]: Today, Kyle's coming in with round four of some Roswell information.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And just like that, we are back, diving back into the Roswell weirdness, it's been a great series so far.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said earlier, if you haven't listened yet, go back, check out episodes 1 through 3 before you get into this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some like Roswell's one of the the biggest UFO case, pans down, bar non period.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm still, Kyle's present stuff that I haven't
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, the ball's going to keep rolling in that direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to end it with this episode, so this will be the last in the series, but there's still, and I'm not, I'm not exaggerating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's still so much information that could be covered with Roswell and just, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: testimonies alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's still like the same direction we go in this episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do cover a little bit more from the body section and then we get into deathbed confessions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of how we're going to end this episode, but we're going to, you know, like I said, pick up kind of where we left off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's also amazing, you know, before we get into it, it's amazing to sit and read these accounts because you never truly realize how big an event is until you sit and you read all these first-hand accounts and I have a fraction of them in the
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[SPEAKER_01]: As a prime example, we have a corporal author, Flurry, and he said him and a buddy, whose name was Paul Camarito, had transferred over from the motorpool to the base's medical unit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had become ambulance drivers and during the Roswell incident, they were assigned a transport between the air strip and the hospital base.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Flurry said that there were doctors both military and
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, flying from all over the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that wasn't necessarily proven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, you could at least imagine that people were flying from all over the country.
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[SPEAKER_01]: into this, which just goes to show how big this was on such a quick basis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking a day or two, maybe three days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now all of a sudden, they've got doctors, both military and civilian flying in from all over the country, bare minimum country.
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[SPEAKER_01]: possibly the world to examine these, these creatures.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think when they contacted civilian doctors and surgeons or what, what have you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think they let them know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they were just like, Hey, we've had a military incident out here in Roswell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need you guys to fly it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you imagine landing and walking in on that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I think I have a case or two in this episode that is similar to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be bonkers crazy fucking nut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On this next bit, I spoke about it a little bit already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're going to revisit it, Glendinus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't remember, he was the guy that worked at the mortuary that got the call about the little kid caskets, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Drake Baylor's was a small grocery store that had a coffee look.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And people in town would freak when it just a chit chat have a little bit of coffee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, of course, at this time that UFO crash was all the crazy town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's all anybody was talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you have Adam Dutchover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a little kid who would serve coffee to the customers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he remembered hearing people from the police department, the Bauer funeral home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were speaking about the little bodies and Bauer's people were speaking about the small caskets that they needed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what Adam had remembered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you have Garner Mason of Hagerman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: whose father, grandfather, and uncles all run this family mortuary that said their family was the one that made the delivery to the RAAF base hospital because ballers, ballers had called them and said, hey, we don't have enough small caskets to fill this order.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we need some
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you have, or another interesting story was that Beverly Otto lived and worked for the National Institutes of Health.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, her and a group of women, they would get together, have dinner, kind of made it like a monthly thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just after Roswell and they were joined by a friend of a friend for dinner that night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She said it was an army nurse and as they had been kind of chatting and getting to know each other, their nurse was like, I came from Roswell and now I'm stationed at the Walter Reed Hospital.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the women
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of star deras or a little bit and they're like, oh, do you know, did you did you buy chance to see the little green men?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the nurse immediately was like, oh, yeah, I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did actually see them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, I was actually the one that called and ordered the children's caskets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because they were little guys who came from this spaceship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a long after this, that nurse got transferred and was never seen again by those women.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Weird, weird, which is crazy how much they got paid attention to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's wild to me that I feel like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: the paranormal community as a whole has kind of lost that sort of investigative journalism where you go into these small towns and you go to the coffee shops, you go to the barge, you go to where people hang out and you actually like boots on the ground, interview people, which I think the prominence of the internet has kind of taken that away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yours one like I know I reference them a lot, but that like that was what was so cool about them when they when they initially got their their goblin email They went to the town and started asking people which is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is awesome And it takes special people to do that too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's not easy to do to go into a brand new community as just that But on top of that you're going in there to ask about things that are taboo Even in today's world, they're still considered taboo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: and it's especially now, I feel like people are so disconnected.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To have somebody come up to you and be like, hey, have you seen a UFO?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be like, get away from me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people don't know me, I'm going to be like, well, yeah, let's talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's cool how, back then,
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[SPEAKER_02]: All like that was the social media hub, you know, the coffee shop or the bar or the diner and it's just cool here and about it I guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of low key wish times were still like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because actually now as we get older because that would be more prominent in our life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it would make, I think I feel like you would make life overall a little bit more exciting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like how many times you hear about all these investigators, even with relatively within the last few decades, when they wanted to go talk about something, go to Mexican restaurant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You go to your favorite restaurant where it's noisy, you can talk, people don't, people don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even drop anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another person that got to see the bodies was, Ellis R. Benavitis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was, I don't know, I'm probably not saying that right, but whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it, you nailed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did, I did, actually.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a private first glass with the 390th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Monday, July 7, 1947, he was headed back to his barracks, but something was going on that morning, and he noticed a ton of staff cars and other vehicles in the parking lot, which was not normal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where was given to his unit to be ready for special duty?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shortly later, he was told to grab his gun and head to hangar P3.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he gets there and starts looking for the officer in charge to get his duties.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And instead of that happening, he witnesses a commotion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the MPs were trying to subdue an out of control officer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This officer was actually the one he was supposed to report to and get his orders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, this dude was freaking the fuck out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Later on, he finds out the officer had been at the crash site and when he got to the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, LZR, here's someone say, you come over here, you're in charge now, but get these over to the hospital immediately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now, poor little LZR is like, fuck, who me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's like, all right, whatever, dude points, points into the gurneys inside the hanger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of them are covered by a sheep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the gurneys though wasn't like the rest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't matter though, Elzarr ordered the men to load the gurneys onto the truck for the transfer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, he didn't know what was under the gurneys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That wasn't till while they were loading them, one of the gurneys slipped and the sheet covering it fell off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said he saw a swollen gray face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was hairless.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't know what it was, but what he did know is that it wasn't fucking human.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he took these things to the hospital and when he got there, the medical staff greeted him and took the body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Once they had it in the room, they pulled the sheet off and Ells are said he could see these little eggshaped heads.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It had slanted eyes, two holes where the nose should be and a small slit where the mouth should have been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's pretty sure it was alive and noted that the medical staff was kind of just standing there, dumbfounded, staring at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the kind of goes to a little bit of what you may have suggested earlier about how if they had told them what was happening or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, these people are standing there, dumbfounded, surprised.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, oh, shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So from here, he was relieved and be briefed and made design in the A's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was told that if he ever were to ever speak of this, something very bad would happen to him, not only hit him either, they would come after his family, which is almost always a surefire way to get to somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can get a lot done when you throw out in people's families.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His wife even recalls him telling about those events, and she said to this day, what he saw that night still haunts him, which is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, yeah, it would be a life-defining moment, especially if you consider the times, like seeing an alien now would be fucking crazy, but I feel like we're kind of immune to it now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've someone kind of compared the R, what's the word I'm looking for?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The amount that we interact with the paranormal, you build up a tolerance to it, you know, almost like a drug, you know, the first time you're like, holy shit, but then the next time it's like, that wasn't nearly as crazy, and the next time you're like, man, man, but in the, in 47, especially at the, at the height of disc UFOs and little green men and shit, you, you get shown an alien just out of the out of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially when you're, when you're not briefed about it or anything, that's going to be a life altering experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, that's going to come in like a wrecking ball, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: From there, we have a Lynn string field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently, he was one of the first researcher researchers to take you a folk crash retrieval, seriously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lynn was able to meet with a medical contact that told him all about the bodies that
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can only fucking imagine being able to sit down and have this conversation because this medical professional took part in the autopsy of one of these beings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here is what Lynn was able to learn from the doctor about these bodies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The being was humanoid, three and a half to four feet tall, and weighed about 40 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The head was much larger than a human head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It had two large round eyes, but one source said that the eyes were oriental or mongolid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were deep and wide apart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Its nose was vague, a very slight protrudeance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The mouth was a small slit and opened to a slight cavity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The mouth did not function as means of communication or as an orifice for food ingestion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The being had no teeth either, it didn't have any earlobes or ears at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The head had no hair, but apparently they apparently noticed that it had a slight fuzz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The neck was thin and the same with the torso.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The arms were long and thin, the hands reached to close to the knee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A slight webbing was noticed between the fingers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The skin in question was not green.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was beige by the tan brown or maybe even a slightly pinkish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some said it almost had a blueish gray to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The texture was described as scaly or reptilian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was also stretchable, elastic, or mobile over smooth muscle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Under magnification the tissue structure appears mesh-like, which resembles granular skined lizards like the iguana and the chameleon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bodies also had no reproductive systems and no genitalia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a colorless liquid throughout the body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No red blood cells were detected either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they were not a carrier of oxygen or or maybe the blood or liquid was not a carrier of oxygen and it was noted that no food or water intake is known for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It had no digestive system or GI tract, no intestinal or elementary canal or rectal area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is bizarre it's seen it it sounds like a updated version of us like some people have theorized but there is a lot missing yeah or or almost some sort of non biological being you know like some sort of the same thing about the bone structure
24:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we get, I think we get to that later.
24:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because everything almost sounds like genetically modified, you know, the skin sounds almost prosthetic and there's, there's no blood in it.
24:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we sound like, like, almost like a, some sort of lubrication sort of thing.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's, well, now that I think about it, what if, what if?
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: What if they got it wrong?
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: What if extraterrestrial degrees in particular are not the evolution of man?
25:14
[SPEAKER_01]: What if they are the evolution of cyborgs?
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The idea of robots?
25:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Good, good, because like you sitting there saying that just made me think like, oh shit.
25:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We think of robots and cyborgs as a very particular way, what if that's what if they're the evolution of that?
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: What if what if and if he got so good at making these things, it made him more biological for whatever reason?
25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure you wonder.
25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It actually really does.
25:49
[SPEAKER_02]: there's there's a theory that you know how the the phenomenon comes in waves right every it almost like every human epoch the phenomenon is different sometimes they show up as god sometimes they show up as lights in the sky sometimes they show up as
26:07
[SPEAKER_02]: UFOs and little green men and there's a theory going around that maybe the next e-pock is AI.
26:14
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why it came in.
26:15
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the next evolution of the phenomena that AI is doing all this.
26:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So, that's kind of, kind of falls in line.
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting.
26:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we have a man who was a crew chief for the Roswell Fire Department.
26:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was, he actually showed up to the crash site, Dan, Dwyer and Lee Reeves were actually dispatched to head out there.
26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And when they got there, they saw an egg-shaped craft and three little bodies on the ground.
26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: When all of a sudden out of the corner of his eye, he literally sees a little creature walking in front, like, up to him.
27:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I would, I would lose it.
27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Either either was coming at him or we're just walking, you know, and it was walking in front of him.
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He saw it walking.
27:09
[SPEAKER_02]: If it was coming at me, there'd be, there'd be four bodies going back.
27:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
27:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Dwyer goes home, starts talking to his family about it.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: His daughter asked him what they looked like, and he called it, which Steve, if you don't know what it is, you should probably Google this right now.
27:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He said that the being resembled child of the earth.
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: and for those of you that do not know that because I did not know that it's also known as the Jerusalem cricket.
27:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They are kind of bizarre grasshopper that does kind of have a head like a fucking alien.
27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
27:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird looking right.
27:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like that at all.
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird.
28:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
28:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Slashing big eyes on that thing, and that's pretty close to an alien head.
28:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, don't like that.
28:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I said, I didn't know it.
28:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know about them at all.
28:14
[SPEAKER_02]: What a weird name, too.
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Very weird name.
28:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Suss.
28:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely.
28:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gross.
28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Creepy little fox.
28:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, wish I wouldn't have done that.
28:26
[SPEAKER_02]: All the more reason for me to want to fight them.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Foster, she was a human spinal cord expert.
28:38
[SPEAKER_01]: She was sent to Washington to examine the spinal cords of these bodies that had been retrieved, which goes to show where all the bodies ended up.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: This time they were in Washington.
28:52
[SPEAKER_01]: to report that one of the creatures was still alive, but severely injured.
28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: This one that was alive was in fact sent to Washington, but soon died due to its injuries.
29:03
[SPEAKER_02]: RIP.
29:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want you to keep that in mind, because I do have a theory later on.
29:10
[SPEAKER_01]: She was said to check out the overall bone structure and spinal cords of the beings.
29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted her to focus on a cervical spine, thoracic, thoracic spine below and behind the chest.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted her to take her time and really check the spinal nerves.
29:31
[SPEAKER_01]: She did observe differences in the number of vertebrae, not much with bone structure, but she noticed the absence of specific internal organs.
29:41
[SPEAKER_01]: However, she did not elaborate further on the findings.
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: When she returned from Washington, she changed.
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Her housekeeper, that was a personal friend, said she saw a change that just got worse and worse.
30:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Foster became distant and didn't really talk to anyone anymore.
30:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, she was debriefed and told, if you talk, you will lose your license to practice and probably be killed.
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's a pretty good reason not to say anything.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But here again, we have a medical professional that is sent probably unknowing into a situation to observe the skeleton structure, the bone structure of a being, and it mentally shatters them.
30:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it makes you wonder, like it makes you question things.
30:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, like, it's crazy to me that a medical professional of all people would have their mind shattered by that.
30:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that.
30:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know it's not the same thing, but in a way, how is that any different from say, what if what if we had just found a bizarre primate?
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Big foot.
31:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Just what if we found big foot like why why doesn't her brain break the same way it does with the possibility of ET.
31:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, you know what I mean?
31:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think in this particular case a lot of it has to do with the time period being in the late 40s.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that is a probably a big determining factor for my questioning versus back then.
31:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that has a lot to do with it because
31:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Essentially, if she started digging around in there and found proof that this isn't an actual living biological being, then everything she knew up to that point is different now.
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything's changed.
32:04
[SPEAKER_02]: We are not the only entity on the planet.
32:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the forties, you know, like there's a lot of God fearing people in America.
32:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And now, or are we the only ones made in God's image?
32:20
[SPEAKER_02]: What are these?
32:20
[SPEAKER_02]: What does this guy got here on the table that doesn't look like us?
32:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's who's image was it made in?
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe maybe to be fair.
32:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's what fuck some of these people up so much is that they did look similar similar enough to us.
32:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were similar enough to us however.
32:42
[SPEAKER_02]: They were different enough to know that they were not from this planet, which, I think even, I think even now, even in 2026, if that, if that happened, if we had an actual specimen, I think you'll fuck a lot of people up.
33:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, but there's also a part of my brain that's like, but why?
33:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't I think a lot of us in this community would be like yeah, we've been trying to tell you that But there's a lot of people who like we are a small fraction even today.
33:17
[SPEAKER_02]: We are a small fraction of the populace.
33:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yeah, you know
33:21
[SPEAKER_02]: and I think if that's proven 100% real we have a specimen of whatever this creature is from wherever it came from.
33:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It is not here.
33:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It is not us.
33:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It is nothing that's ever been on this plan before.
33:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So to speak, I think a lot of people would be like, oh fuck.
33:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You're probably right.
33:40
[SPEAKER_02]: This changes a lot of things, but also we're here.
33:42
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be like, yeah, we've been trying to tell you that.
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, it won't change things for us.
33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be like, yeah, we've literally heard hundreds of thousands of people talk about having experiences with these beings and a lot of people just turned to blind eye to and thought people were crazy.
33:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Now who's crazy?
34:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
34:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And it kind of gets crazier from there because the bodies were reported to move around a lot.
34:11
[SPEAKER_01]: There were at least two testimonies seeing the bodies in Texas in 1964.
34:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what almost 20 years after the incident.
34:22
[SPEAKER_01]: They were reports at Lackland Air Force Base and another at Randolph Air Force Base.
34:27
[SPEAKER_01]: The one that was alive had many reports.
34:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Some say it went to right field, white sand, low salamos, some rumors suggest that it never left for Oswell and then you just had Dr. Foster's account, said it was in Washington.
34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You have John Tillie's account that said, they shot it at Roswell base.
34:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it makes you wonder, especially with there being such a time period, like because that one was 20, 20 years difference.
35:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes you wonder if these are the same bodies.
35:06
[UNKNOWN]: Bingo.
35:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Because even even as my theory, between Roswell, the encounters at Roswell, you have
35:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you you have deceased bodies, but you have people encountering the beings and they're they're walking.
35:24
[SPEAKER_02]: They're obviously not in that bad shape, but you get to Washington where Dr. Foster sees them and she said that alien was in such a bad shape that it died there.
35:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
35:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a big difference from being able to walk around.
35:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And we even have another account later on that says something different.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: See something sauce that that was exactly what I said when I have a theory is that I bare minimum bare minimum.
35:54
[SPEAKER_01]: There were more bodies there.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: There were more beings there than what has initially been reported because what was the first report?
36:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Three dead one alive.
36:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
36:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of people, a lot of people do have those numbers.
36:09
[SPEAKER_01]: lot of people have those numbers.
36:11
[SPEAKER_01]: However, three crash sites.
36:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember there was an example that was given that maybe here was a crash site, but it was almost like the even the crash continued or injection pod happened and went on to the next.
36:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was highly possible that there were more bodies or like you're saying, who's to say their friends didn't try to come pick
36:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm curious as to how many caskets
36:43
[SPEAKER_02]: because we haven't heard that yet.
36:45
[SPEAKER_02]: How many caskets were ordered and delivered?
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
36:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Two rods was they had an exact number.
36:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if there were only three bodies, they'd only need three caskets, which ain't that much.
36:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I know Roswell was a tiny little town, but still.
37:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You think they would at least have one or two on hand, because there's kids.
37:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, children die.
37:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
37:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So it makes me think that there is probably more going on
37:12
[SPEAKER_01]: then even what we're being told as to what we were being told to see and I absolutely agree with that because after reading as many accounts as I did reading this book looking into it I do feel like even with all the testimonies
37:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I still feel like there are massive pieces of this puzzle that are hidden.
37:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like smokescreen for a smokescreen for a smokescreen for a smokescreen.
37:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is crazy.
37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because there's a thought in my head, especially with something like Dr. Foster in this being
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I could almost make you wonder if she was informed on their intentions, or there was some type of communication with these beings, and this is what they're really here for because a lot of these people are fucked for life after running into these beings.
38:16
[SPEAKER_02]: She could have telepathic communication with it before it died, bro.
38:21
[SPEAKER_02]: She could have telepathic communication with it after it died.
38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
38:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the fact that there are so many hard men to hard military men that did time in World War II that see these things and they just, they are fucked for the rest of their life.
38:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, think about the implicate, like obviously you know that they can, you know that their physical form can die because they were found dead.
38:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
38:50
[SPEAKER_02]: But we have no idea how their body works.
38:53
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have a, they don't have lungs.
38:55
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't breathe oxygen.
38:56
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have blood.
38:57
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have hearts.
38:58
[SPEAKER_02]: How the fuck do we kill these things?
39:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
39:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Because we are only, we're only privy to killing things that do, that have and do all those things.
39:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you know, that you'd have to start over from, from ground zero.
39:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
39:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is, like even in a military context, like you're fighting an enemy, you know nothing about.
39:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that itself will be terrifying.
39:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how do you fight something you don't know how to kill?
39:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You know it can die.
39:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's physical form can die.
39:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Which even that like think of the implications of that.
39:32
[SPEAKER_02]: If that's just a physical body.
39:33
[SPEAKER_02]: What if whatever...
39:37
[SPEAKER_02]: was controlling that physical ball.
39:38
[SPEAKER_02]: What if it automatically like possessed one of the other fucking military men that were there like the dude that was freaking the fuck out?
39:47
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you know that his the consciousness of that being didn't go into him and they're like, oh shit, now we got to kind of like an independence day.
39:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:55
[SPEAKER_01]: right when you i mean bare minimum what if there was that like just uh... i could see somebody freaking out over like a form of uh... telekinetic conversation bullshit
40:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That would freak me the fuck out.
40:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You're seeing these things at the first time because they reported in the hangar that there was one alive on the gurney.
40:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and if that that makes a lot of sense because remember they said the mouth wasn't for community communication.
40:34
[SPEAKER_01]: say it could be a couple possibilities but say it's trying to make a connection with you to communicate with you but it's in a fuckload of pain so maybe that communication gets skewed into your brain like a like a it's sending its pain patterns and everything into your fucking brain which just creates chaos inside you are maybe the downloads fucked and it's trying to find a way to jack into your brain which just fucks you up anyways.
41:02
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the difference between that and possession not a lot not a lot crazy?
41:11
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so now we have a jackrod and senior and he told several
41:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Or he kind of went on about how they killed it.
41:25
[SPEAKER_02]: What was his name?
41:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Jack Rodden's senior.
41:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Shut up, Jack Rodden.
41:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Some say it was kept there at Wright Field until it died in 1952.
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone else said they ran into it in the basement of one of the buildings at Wright.
41:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Another man named Colonel Marion McGrotter went to write Air Force Base in the Spring of 1948 and said the class was shown pieces of UFO wreckage and a live alien.
41:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So he heard the alien head later been killed in an experiment.
42:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We do revisit this story.
42:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I find more on him in what happened.
42:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Which falls into the next segment of deathbed confessions.
42:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's interesting, it's interesting and it once again reminds me of that scene from Independence Day, somebody come into the freak show.
42:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody needs to give us a deathbed compassion.
42:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's crazy.
42:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're all like it's the similarities are uncanny.
42:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, as the example major Edwin Leslie,
42:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He was interviewed several times and all I would say is that there he was sworn to secrecy.
42:37
[SPEAKER_01]: However, he did end up confirming to his two daughters and granddaughter that he in fact was part of the Roswell incident.
42:44
[SPEAKER_01]: While dying in a hospital in Dallas, Texas in 92, his granddaughter brought him a gift.
42:50
[SPEAKER_01]: While looking at it, he sighed and said, oh, the creatures.
43:04
[SPEAKER_01]: November of 1995, major Patrick Saunders sent out several books called The Truth About The UFO Crash at Roswell.
43:14
[SPEAKER_01]: to which he wrote in, here's the truth, and I still haven't told anybody anything.
43:20
[SPEAKER_01]: He did an uptelling close friends that they were, that they faced, they were faced with technology greater than ours and that we had no idea what their intentions might be.
43:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, exactly.
43:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that in itself would be enough
43:40
[SPEAKER_02]: to spark global panic, because it's proof that these things are real, it's proof that they are beyond our capabilities, and it almost proves that we don't know how to kill them, true, which is, which makes for the ultimate foe, yeah, I would agree with that.
44:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's another thing we
44:07
[SPEAKER_02]: is we're there because now now you've you've just uncovered an entire another another layer because you've got one person that said that being was walking around at the at the crash site you got another person that said it died on the table in Washington now you got multiple people saying that they saw live ones five years later.
44:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
44:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's reports, I think it's Los Alamos of Aliens working in underground labs with humans.
44:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So it can't, I mean, it can be, but based on the narrative that we were given, it can't be all the same from the same crash.
44:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You wouldn't, you wouldn't think so, no.
44:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Unless there was some sort of even deeper conspiracy, where
44:54
[SPEAKER_02]: some of these things weren't from the crash at all.
44:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them may have been biologics produced by the government, which we've heard people talk about, sit out to kind of like, I don't even know, even, even skew the narrative at that point.
45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the crash itself,
45:16
[SPEAKER_01]: What if it prompted the race of grace to make conversation with the government?
45:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's another thing I was going to say.
45:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I keep getting all these ideas in my head.
45:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Another thing that would have been, you know,
45:31
[SPEAKER_02]: mind-boggling if say say the UFO crash was a one-off.
45:35
[SPEAKER_02]: The first Roswell crash was a one-off thing and everybody's like oh shit these things are real.
45:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Then what if more started coming to recover their body?
45:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Because now you know that they have, obviously they're intelligent but they have intelligence they have intent.
45:51
[SPEAKER_02]: They know where they're if we are now, which we're not just a
46:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
46:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and like I said, they could they could look at it from two different standpoints there if they want to recover that bad.
46:08
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to come in and take it or they're going to land and create a dialogue because at the by all accounts we had one of my live.
46:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, right.
46:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
46:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So if they knew that and they wanted to do a recovery mission, there's only two ways you go about getting them back.
46:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You either go in and take them.
46:31
[SPEAKER_01]: where you go in and like negotiate for him.
46:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
46:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd say it's a strong possibility.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Saunders guy.
46:39
[SPEAKER_01]: He even apparently bragged about how well he covered up the paper trail associated with the clean up of Roswell.
46:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You have private Francis Cassidy who was an MP and said that he was assigned to guard the P3 hangar and said he's seen the bodies inside.
46:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Corporal Robert J. Lydia and his wife were watching a TV show about the Roswell incident and she asked, well dear, is it true?
47:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, well, I suppose it's time I should tell you I've been meaning to for a long time now.
47:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is true.
47:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all 100% true.
47:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He told his wife that one day he was grabbed a guard hanger p3 and then he waited for a chance to peek inside and when he did, he saw a wreckage and small bodies being prepared for shipment.
47:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Then there was a sergeant Homer G. Rollett and before passing in 1988, he told his son Larry that he was a part of the cleanup detail.
47:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Homer had seen everything and on the memory material, which was that
47:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, tin foil like that Kevin's shape, he described the actual ship, which was somewhat circular.
47:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He was also told, he also told a son that he saw three little people.
48:03
[SPEAKER_01]: They had large heads and at least one was alive.
48:06
[SPEAKER_01]: His father also told him that there were three sites.
48:09
[SPEAKER_01]: One was North Roswell and the other two were near Corona.
48:13
[SPEAKER_01]: He also ended up telling his daughter right
48:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I was at Roswell when they recovered the spaceship in 1947.
48:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I was involved, I saw it, it's all true.
48:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he apologized to her for not telling her sooner, but he was told to keep quiet.
48:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And one can assume he didn't want to risk the ride of the lives of his family and by revealing that secret.
48:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough, fair enough.
48:39
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a Master Sergeant Harry Telesco.
48:43
[SPEAKER_01]: and he had already passed when investigators got a home of his family, but his daughter said her father had spoken many years ago of seeing the wreckage and the little bodies there.
48:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And once again, he said one of them was alive.
48:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Then another person, private first class, James Sane, told family members the same thing.
49:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I was at the crash site and I saw little bodies.
49:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Sergeant Melvin E. Brown witnessed the landing on the moon and decided that was the time to tell his family the truth, to which the family didn't believe him.
49:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But he also warned not to tell anyone because he would be in trouble.
49:20
[SPEAKER_01]: On his deathbed, he spoke a lot about Roswell.
49:24
[SPEAKER_01]: He said over and over, it wasn't no damn weather balloon.
49:29
[SPEAKER_01]: The family actually refuses to discuss it any further to this day.
49:36
[SPEAKER_01]: However, his daughter did say she wanted people to know what her dad's dying words were.
49:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, I quote, it was approaching dusk when one other soldier and I were stationed in one of the ambulance trucks at the recovery site.
49:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything was being loaded onto the trucks and I couldn't understand why some of the trucks had
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[SPEAKER_01]: ice or something in them.
49:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not understand what they wanted to keep cold.
50:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Our orders were not to look under the canvas tarp in the back.
50:06
[SPEAKER_01]: The moment we had a chance I pulled back the covering there were bodies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Small bodies and they had big heads and slanted eyes.
50:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It was written in the book how the family still fears the government, if they say too much, which may mean there's a lot more to his story that will go to the grave.
50:30
[SPEAKER_01]: In September of 1989, a cancer ward nurse got to hear a confession from one of her patients.
50:36
[SPEAKER_01]: The nurse in question was Mary Ann Gardner.
50:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Now she could remember the name of the patient that confessed the story, but she definitely didn't forget what she said.
50:47
[SPEAKER_01]: She said the woman in the cancer ward didn't have any visitors.
50:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So naturally she was concerned for her.
50:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So Gardner spent as much time with this woman as she could.
50:56
[SPEAKER_01]: The woman in question would tell her stories about the crash spaceship and the little men she had seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She said what a lot has spoken about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They found a spaceship out in the desert and there were bodies on the ground.
51:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Little people with big heads and large eyes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Army had shown up and chased them away and said if you tell anyone about this, the government could always find you.
51:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is an interesting statement because of the time.
51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: They spoke like they had the same type of technology that we have today to make that bland statement of we are the government and we can find you wherever you go.
51:44
[SPEAKER_01]: are a little bit a little bit overconfident statement.
51:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I should say.
51:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, interesting, right?
51:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they say they got 50 years technological advance on anything that we, us little Johnny Q.
51:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Public, even get a morsel of, right?
52:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So the woman in the woman, she was one of the people that were referenced in an earlier episode.
52:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it was the second episode, I don't remember, but I talked about there being a third crash site and a group of archaeologists finding one of the crash sites.
52:19
[SPEAKER_01]: This woman that was laying in the cancer ward in a Florida hospital was one of those women.
52:30
[SPEAKER_01]: She said she was a part of a team that was out hunting rocks and looking for fossils.
52:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Even as this woman is laying on her deathbed talking about this, she was looking around as if she was frightened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were truly listening in on what she was saying in that very moment.
52:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It makes you wonder what more of the story people are leaving out because people like this woman and the cancer ward would tell people about it, then get to a certain point and be like, oh, I can't go any further.
52:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get in trouble or they're worse.
53:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that crazy?
53:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nuts, dude.
53:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You are dying, like you were in your last days on this earth and you're still afraid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that what you say could affect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming her family at this point.
53:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
53:23
[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
53:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Am I like that's god damn.
53:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
53:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So oddly enough, the investigators start looking
53:40
[SPEAKER_01]: they tried to get records from the hospital, which were denied, so they started looking through the archaeology records and in fact find some women that fit the description.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So they reached back out to Miss Gardner, the nurse that was taken care of her, right?
53:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, the nurse was listening to this woman.
54:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Or the, you know, they reached out to the nurse that had been listening to this woman and hanging out with her while she was on her death bed.
54:14
[SPEAKER_01]: The investigators would call several times and get no answer.
54:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So they ended up writing Ms. Gardner a letter with names and theories on whom this woman could be.
54:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And I assume sending her the list of names was to maybe spark her memory and be like, oh yeah, that's it.
54:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the lady.
54:36
[SPEAKER_01]: However, the letter was never returned or answered.
54:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Then later on, when they would call her number, they said a gentle man's voice would answer the phone and say you have the wrong number.
54:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So what happened to Ms. Gardner?
54:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
54:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
54:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Was the paranoid cancer patient right?
54:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And the government had been listening in the whole time somehow.
55:02
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man.
55:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And that by confessing her the story, and then Ms. Gardner moving forward and confessing it to the investigators.
55:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Clateral damage.
55:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, lateral damage.
55:13
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
55:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be in a position where I could be collateral damage.
55:18
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy, dude.
55:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So, everyone remembers your Sheriff George Wilcox.
55:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this event apparently left him fucked up over the years.
55:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And then his wife, before she passed away, told the granddaughter that after this event, he was shocked and never wanted to be a Sheriff again.
55:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, fuck this, I'm done.
55:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want this job.
55:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want anything to do with it.
55:51
[SPEAKER_01]: on George.
55:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But for George, once again, the military showed up and said, if you speak about this, we will kill you and your entire family.
56:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so cute.
56:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And like they just cut and drive for the sheriff.
56:07
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, listen, we're not sure you're going to shoot.
56:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
56:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You talk.
56:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone dies.
56:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Off said, copy that.
56:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But the granddaughter told investigators that someone
56:21
[SPEAKER_01]: he ended up going out there and found a massive scorched area on top of that.
56:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He saw four space beings.
56:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Their heads were large.
56:31
[SPEAKER_01]: They were suits like silk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the little men was alive.
56:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Then there was a Myers-Wani.
56:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a full-blooded command she Indian who piloted
56:49
[SPEAKER_01]: his crew referred to him as chief, but by 1947 he was a top tier security officer.
56:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He was stationed in Colorado in order to go to Roswell to oversee transport of top secret items.
57:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He was to go from Roswell to Fort Worth in a special B-29 flight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The item was to transport a large wooden crate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was supposed to sit in the bomb bay while transport took place.
57:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I also read that because these planes had a fly super low during this trip because the bay's weren't pressurized.
57:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So they didn't want the people in the bay to die of lack of oxygen, or possibly it damaged the bodies that were being transported.
57:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, in 1981, he saw a segment on the Roswell incident on the show in the search of, and his final year of life he decided to tell his family.
57:45
[SPEAKER_01]: The interviewed his daughter who told them this is what he said.
57:49
[SPEAKER_01]: The Roswell incident was true.
57:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He had flown with the alien bodies from Roswell New Mexico to Fort Worth, Texas.
57:57
[SPEAKER_01]: There were three sites.
57:59
[SPEAKER_01]: He said to the family that whatever you do, don't believe the government, it really happened.
58:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Now earlier I mentioned Colonel Marion in McGrawter, well this is his story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a part of the Air War College at Maxwell Field in Montgomery, Alabama.
58:18
[SPEAKER_01]: This class was filled with high-ranking officers, literally deemed to represent the best and brightest in their branches of military.
58:26
[SPEAKER_01]: This class was scheduled to last one year, from late July 1947 to early June in 1948.
58:33
[SPEAKER_01]: This class had been in session for months, and in early 1948, all the members were taken to write Patterson Air Force Base.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were told their opinion was desired and of the utmost importance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of these guys had no idea what they expect, and I'm sure they weren't counting on what they in love seeing.
58:54
[SPEAKER_01]: They were led into a room and told about the recovery of an extraterrestrial spaceship that crashed near the town of Roswell, New Mexico.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of the officers hadn't even been aware of the crash and were flat out startled when some of the wreckage was brought into the room.
59:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Now after everyone had the chance to examine the crash, they were taken into another room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There they were shown something that would haunt McGrotter for the rest of his life.
59:19
[SPEAKER_01]: McGrotter was on his deathbed 50 years later.
59:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The class was told that it was a survivor of the rush, Roswell crash.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said the creature was under five feet tall, human-like but with long arms, larger eyes, and oversized hairless head for its small frame, slip for a mouth, no nose, or ears, just small orifices, and in his mind he really related it to a small childlike creature.
59:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But when Grader said to his granddaughter that there was no doubt that it came from another
59:58
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
59:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So this whole war class was taking into two rooms.
1:00:05
[SPEAKER_01]: The first one, they got to look at the wreckage and the second one, they saw body.
1:00:13
[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be so fucking cool.
1:00:16
[SPEAKER_02]: That'd be so cool.
1:00:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I want, I, I want that shit to happen.
1:00:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be sent something that I see on my holy shit, that's an alien.
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
1:00:31
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a crashed UFO.
1:00:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Pfff, I can rad.
1:00:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So, other military people also had the same descriptions of aliens.
1:00:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Captain Oliver Henderson described the misreminding him of Casper the Ghost.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That's weird.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Major Jesse Marcell said they were white, rubbery figures.
1:00:55
[SPEAKER_01]: McGrotter described the live figure before him as squiggly.
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
1:01:02
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he said it's squiggly.
1:01:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Huh.
1:01:07
[SPEAKER_01]: McGrotter later learned that the military were conducting and then I need to read can't.
1:01:14
[SPEAKER_01]: when the war class was brought into the second room, they were face-to-face with a live alien, that's not a body.
1:01:20
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I thought, because you said it first, and then it was, yeah, I kind of fucked that up there.
1:01:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's my bad.
1:01:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Three, I mean, either end.
1:01:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, definitely, you fucked you up a little bit.
1:01:33
[SPEAKER_01]: The grater later learned that the military were conducting experiments on the alien, but it died in the process.
1:01:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So what's Steve?
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_01]: That's at least three different live alien accounts that we've heard.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a live one at this site, which could be attributed to any of the live ones other than that.
1:01:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
1:01:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But then there, one was alive in Washington where it died.
1:01:51
[SPEAKER_02]: One was alive here.
1:01:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
1:01:55
[SPEAKER_02]: They said one was alive in the basement.
1:01:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, right right right.
1:02:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was I think this is this account is that right as well If I remember correctly and it makes you wonder Yeah, they were taking the right and makes you wonder if there wasn't a live one on the one going to the Fort Worth base Very well could have been because yeah, because obviously he didn't tell the whole story either.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
1:02:23
[SPEAKER_02]: because that would have been Carl from Air Force Bayes back then I think I just looked it up.
1:02:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not Carl's anymore because I shut it down in 93.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's a joint naval reserve or something or other.
1:02:36
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, could have been alive on that one too.
1:02:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But we want to assume that.
1:02:41
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll just go by what the two got at least three accounts of them being alive in different spots.
1:02:47
[SPEAKER_02]: In different spots.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you can't have one die in Washington within the same week and then have one also alive in right years later.
1:02:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can't do that.
1:03:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So people have actually picked apart the Macrotor story with high claims of the class never existing.
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_01]: However, the investigators were able to find three separate documents that would prove otherwise.
1:03:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So nice try and they sayers.
1:03:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice try nerds.
1:03:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It states that our state's by name, Colonel Macrotor's name, and a class fucking photo.
1:03:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Which the photo is shown in the book.
1:03:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna end it.
1:03:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It's whatever you say about that.
1:03:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't shit, I'm gonna end it with this.
1:03:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a complete 180, but it's something that I've really respect.
1:03:43
[SPEAKER_01]: CIC Officer shared in caveat.
1:03:46
[SPEAKER_01]: A man who was involved with the project mogul coverup, he ran insanely heavy interference into the Roswell incident.
1:03:55
[SPEAKER_01]: This man, to the day he fucking died, never told the truth.
1:04:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He took his oath that serious.
1:04:03
[SPEAKER_01]: They even tried getting his son who was a fucking lawyer to go and get a sealed confession that would only be revealed after he had passed.
1:04:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Cabiot said, no, it's not happening, I'm not ready.
1:04:18
[SPEAKER_01]: They pointed out how he died with no metals, no awards, not one single acknowledgment of what he did in those years.
1:04:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's unfortunate because caveat did spend the ending years of basically being in a bubble as a son described it.
1:04:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I only had half of a father after that point.
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say, you know, my piece on caveat.
1:04:46
[SPEAKER_01]: in the book it describes are described a man that was afraid or intimidated and I would actually argue.
1:04:55
[SPEAKER_01]: caveat was a proud man, an honorable man, a convicted man, who wouldn't butch.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, the knowledge of his family possibly being heard is a motivating factor, but some men, some people, take their oath serious.
1:05:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people hold their words to the highest standard.
1:05:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe this was a part of caveat.
1:05:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he took his oath serious.
1:05:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He believed he was a part of something bigger and doing his job until the day he died.
1:05:32
[SPEAKER_01]: As much as I hate that he was concealing the truth, I absolutely love the fact.
1:05:39
[SPEAKER_01]: that even though this man knew, people from all walks, military civilian, they're all of the above, were blowing the whistle on Roswell and telling their truth.
1:05:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And this man, even knowing all of that, said nope, I ain't saying shit.
1:05:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking this to the grave, like I signed up to do.
1:06:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That ladies and gentlemen, I can very much respect, and I'll be willing to bet Steve, and I would be one of the very, very few that can respect the fact this man kept his word, kept his oath, and did his fucking job.
1:06:22
[SPEAKER_01]: think about that.
1:06:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how long.
1:06:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could be talking 20 40 60 years after the incident that dude kept his mouth shut.
1:06:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I can do it.
1:06:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't.
1:06:35
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no fucking way.
1:06:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be talking.
1:06:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Bubble looms.
1:06:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mean what I tell you.
1:06:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sorry college is put you in your family.
1:06:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Gravedanger.
1:06:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But.
1:06:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw aliens.
1:06:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I saw.
1:06:47
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that.
1:06:49
[SPEAKER_02]: That's hard ass.
1:06:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's I think it's fucking gangster man.
1:06:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I think like I said, you know back then there were dudes that their word was everything.
1:06:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say it's old head mentality.
1:06:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
1:07:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
1:07:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I admire those motherfuckers.
1:07:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I could not do it.
1:07:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd immediately be like, same.
1:07:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Kyle, I'm sending you, I'm sending you photographic evidence of aliens.
1:07:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:07:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And the military is probably going to kill us.
1:07:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sorry.
1:07:14
[SPEAKER_02]: But sorry about you.
1:07:15
[SPEAKER_02]: But hey, it's happening.
1:07:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:07:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I want to land on that because like I said, yeah, yeah.
1:07:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't know, like, I have a deep push, and it's, it's so contradictory to everything that we are, I was saying the same thing.
1:07:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, you, you can't help but admire some of those people.
1:07:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you got, like, think, you got to think of the way that he carried on his shoulders.
1:07:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:07:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's the same weight.
1:07:46
[SPEAKER_02]: that shattered some people's whole existence and do just set there just chewing on it.
1:07:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk just struck through it, took it and I'm sure I'm sure it weighed on him because man you know how you get you get caught up in a moment and you let something slip and you know what I mean so I get that whole like living in a bubble having half a dad shit because he's
1:08:09
[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, he is protecting his family because he don't want to let shit slip, because maybe that means that his kids get taken in bad things.
1:08:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But I had to say something about it.
1:08:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially if it was, especially if it was something life altering in a negative way, that these beings existing is a life altering event in a negative way.
1:08:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that sucks too.
1:08:40
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a crazy crazy crazy.
1:08:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying that was the case, but you could almost infer that to a certain extent about because some people just, some people just lost it, you know, after getting in there disappeared all kinds of shit like, be it be heavy.
1:08:57
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, it to me is just for Ad that he took it.
1:09:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
1:09:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He just took it on the chin and said, fuck it.
1:09:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm carrying it out.
1:09:06
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the military's like, hey, aliens are real if you tell anybody.
1:09:10
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to murder you and your whole family.
1:09:11
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, okay.
1:09:14
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we told you aliens are real.
1:09:15
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, all right.
1:09:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:09:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
1:09:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
1:09:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I was there, bro.
1:09:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I was there.
1:09:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's scary as hell.
1:09:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not telling me anything.
1:09:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:09:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that was awesome.
1:09:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So I want some serious.
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, I just want to shout it out again because I cannot give it.
1:09:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I give all credit to Thomas J. Kerry and Donald Arshmit.
1:09:38
[SPEAKER_01]: The book is witness to Roswell 75th Anniversary Edition on masking the government's biggest cover up by the book.
1:09:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I bought the book and the audiobook and I left out fucking tons of information.
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's so many more accounts in that book.
1:10:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It is fucking unreal.
1:10:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, if you, if you're a fan of it, I would highly recommend getting it.
1:10:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
1:10:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Steve's got the book too.
1:10:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So technically between the two of us, we've got a three fucking times.
1:10:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw some people in Spotify between the people crying about the ads saying that they were purchasing the book.
1:10:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yes, good.
1:10:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, it's worth it, it's worth it, just the, like I said, it is fucking unreal.
1:10:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's very least.
1:10:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very least.
1:10:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Just just know that you're supporting boots on the ground in the Pantheon.
1:10:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
1:10:37
[SPEAKER_02]: because you, you, we need that shit because the stuff that mainstream media's feeding us obviously, obviously is not real.
1:10:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have to support independent journalists who go out there, put in the work, put the boots on the ground, put the time in at the very least.
1:10:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not, I'm telling you like, they, they interviewed 600 people.
1:11:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know 600 people.
1:11:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, it's, it's nuts, dude.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nuts, like it's just so much fucking information is in that book.
1:11:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's unreal.
1:11:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It's unreal.
1:11:13
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, that was awesome.
1:11:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it, it was six series.
1:11:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It was good, man.
1:11:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.
1:11:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And only took a seven years to get to Roswell.
1:11:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Literally the biggest UFO incident and like like I said this book will help like it'll blow your mind and Like I've stated before in the show in regards to this Roswell case you you had no idea The scope the magnitude of Roswell.
1:11:41
[SPEAKER_01]: How big it actually was How well organized it actually was All the people involved is fucking crazy
1:11:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it does really, really paint a picture as to, on one hand, how they kind of fumbled it in the beginning, but on the other hand.
1:12:08
[SPEAKER_02]: how ready they are.
1:12:11
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
1:12:12
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a 47.
1:12:14
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a 47.
1:12:16
[SPEAKER_02]: It almost makes you wonder if it was all put to plan exactly how it wanted to go out.
1:12:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Go down.
1:12:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You almost think it had to.
1:12:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:12:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:12:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Almost like distracting that there was a UFO.
1:12:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Then we'll muddy the water and we'll go in there and take everything.
1:12:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not it's not it's not it is not but I love it.
1:12:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
1:12:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say And yeah, if you haven't listened to the other three by this point Stop being dumb.
1:12:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm great.
1:12:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Go do it now.
1:12:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You're behind Bon Able
1:12:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for hanging out with us.
1:12:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Hope everybody has a good Monday and I need to start doing this two and next week I wasn't gonna do a UFO episode because we just did four UFO episodes, but instead I did a UFO episode.
1:13:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and this episode
1:13:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Reminds me so much or Kyle, I'm so excited to do it.
1:13:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Fuck yeah.
1:13:12
[SPEAKER_02]: He's good to love it.
1:13:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you're gonna love it.
1:13:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Be sure to tune in next week.
1:13:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we meet again, stay safe, stay weird.
1:13:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And in the words of the chief, the beach 24-bomber.
1:13:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't trust the government.
1:13:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just don't do it.
1:13:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you have a deathbed confession, I don't two guys will listen to you.