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Ottawa Senators 2026-27 Season Preview: Can They Survive Without Brady Tkachuk? · Jablam Sports Hockey

• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the scope, Mark.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank you.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: Great to be here for you.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: So, in after we talk about the tenders, we in printing now we'll be talking about captains, new captains in the NHL.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so let's get into the tens.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: So the centers kind of like backed up, barely made the playoffs last year.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: What needs to happen again this coming season without their captain, Brady Kutruck now gone, for them to make the playoffs?
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, last season was a bit of a bit of a blip, obviously, uh from the the previous season, uh, where they they made it uh probably in the last few weeks of the season, uh, made it to the playoffs.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: And uh this season um it was a little different.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: They got off to a slow start start, and that basically came down to literally goaltending.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um the goaltending just wasn't there last season, especially in the in the first half, and they got behind uh behind the eight ball early, and obviously their metrics showed that they probably had you know one of the worst uh save percentages, if not the worst, in the NHL last season over the first uh 40-50 games for sure.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: And they expected uh obviously uh obviously Linus Salmark um was away from the from the team uh for for a little while, and at that point also um he hadn't been playing uh up to his standards, and uh Levy Maryland had that great uh I guess three, four weeks the season prior.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_01: And they brought him in uh this year as they thought he could be a capable backup.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: And uh remember last season he had a one the previous season he had a 199 goals against average and nine twenty-something save percentage, and he had three shutouts in literally a three-week span, and they thought that uh he was ready to to take over that role as a backup.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_01: And uh unfortunately uh that certainly didn't pan out.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: It took a while for them to get on track, and also the other issue was the uh the penalty kill.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: The penalty kill was and was the worst in the NHL for the majority of the season.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: So that also hurt them.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't even the goal scoring, because they were still scoring at a normal pace, and they actually in the end, they actually um they defended very well actually despite their goaltending woes.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't even that part of it.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: So it literally came down to goaltending and the penalty kill.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: And uh at the end of the season, they got it all together and then lost, and then as you were, they they ran into uh the injury flight right at the end, and uh they lost obviously when they started the playoff, they lost the title club and Jake Sanderson and Thomas Chapot.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: So um they made it in into the playoffs despite those injuries uh in the last month of the season.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_01: So um this season itself is is um they're they're hoping obviously they'll have an injury preseason.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: Not everyone obviously that's probably near impossible, but if they if they can hold their own, get consistent goaltending, and uh obviously no major injuries on on the back end, I think they'll be okay.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: So do you believe Linus Arm Allmark can rebound and be the goalie he was prior to last season?
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_01: I I certainly believe so.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um with with Allmark, he um he has a benefit the benefit the benefit is his uh goalie, uh coach uh from when he was uh a teen and the mentor in Sweden has actually uh he helped him out.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, what when he was out of the lineup, he moved uh uh Mashey Swatch is his name, and he moved to Ottawa uh during the period of his recovery, and they helped him out on the ice and off the ice, and uh along with uh his coach Justin Peters, the center's goalie coach.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: And they've hired Mashe uh to be the goalie development coach uh this season uh on a full-time basis.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: So he's in Ottawa, and he uh I think Almerca has a buffer of having having Mashey here, and I think that will really help him a lot.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: So there's there's that, and also getting, I guess, some NHL uh backup in Samuel Eerson.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: Ericsson did not have a very good season last season.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think he ended okay, but first three quarters of the season, he just was sub was definitely was subpar for him.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: But he did appear in the Four Nations a year prior.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: He had some you know international experience, and uh the Sanders feel that with their goaltending structure, the way it is, with their coaching staff, they they're actually really high on him that he can do a bounce back.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: But in the end, they also have Person and Levi and Levy Maryland, and so they're hoping that that will solve the goaltending problem uh based on last year for consistency.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um I know they had left at Stuart Skinner and Connor Ingram at free agency, but um they elected to uh bring Erson in.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we'll see how that goes.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: So you wrote in a recent hot stove article that the arena and the team has changed quite a little bit there.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: What do Sense fans have to look forward to most going to games at the Canadian Tire Center?
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be um it's gonna be a little different.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think what the well, for people sitting on the second level, they got brand new seats.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't believe the seats have been changed since the building opened in uh what's it '96, I believe.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: So they got the Perell Center?
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, it's now the Canadian Tire Center.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: Perell Center, Scotia Bank, Canadian Tire Center, Palladium.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's a palladium at first.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, and uh yeah, I mean, there's that.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: There's the the Molson fan deck, which is not completed as of yet.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure if it's gonna be ready to for puck drop for the opening of the season.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: I know they're trying their best to do that.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: They've taken out, they've removed about 810 seats, I believe I was told, or 850 in the uh in the third level behind uh behind the rats.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's on the Zamboni entrance.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: And what it is, it's just gonna be something like uh Roger Skydome, really.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, I I think very so I think Washington Capitals are doing it.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_01: There's various things to do it.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: I know the Detroit Tigers have done it.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Camerica, I've been there myself, so I've seen it.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's literally a fan deck.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be probably high-top tables, you know, high-top chairs, tables, lounges, so like a lounge area, you know, and uh people can literally just buy a drink, hang out, talk to their buddies, and uh I think it's more of it's a relaxing way instead of sitting in your seat.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's just the modern way, you know, to watch a game and just be casual and just for people who like to have a good time and and hang out, and uh president's your leader basically actually yeah.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, now that people yeah, now that fans have to drive 45 minutes, now that you have a place where they can relax.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it's more president's your leader.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: He said the same thing.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, you know, you know, he goes, I don't relate to it, but he said, you know, my son they're in their 30s or whatever, and they just just like to, you know, hang out and chat and watch, and you don't have to be stapled to your seat.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I I guess that's the new way, right?
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I I think it'll be, you know, I think it's a good idea.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm sure it's gonna go over well.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's a general mission area, so I I think it's gonna go over well.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, as far as other changes, I think they're um obviously I wrote about the food, but I mean that's always there's gonna be four more food, um, different things available and uh available to the suites and to um the regular ones, the fans in the you know, uh the concessions.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: And uh what the senders have, they've introduced it a couple years ago, is they have grab and go locations.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: So you have uh locations where there's basically just security, and there might be uh someone there just just kind of watching and whatnot.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: But they literally have I've been in there myself, and uh I think there's it's either two or four.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember or recall exactly because I don't get to go around walk around the building all the time.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: But uh there's areas where you can actually literally go grab a beer out of the freezer, right?
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: For the tent.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um they have drinks, salads, you know, different potato chips, think you need snacks or whatever, but um now they're gonna be putting, I believe there's a they're calling it a protein chicken bowl, you know.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um and there's actually a dessert which I did try.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: It was called a Spores Parquet.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: It was actually really good.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I don't know if you're familiar with uh quench hydration.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's similar to like a Gatorade, maybe like a Gatorade.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean there's pop in there and like and beer, like beer, and there's like probably like um there's also like Mike's hard lemonade, that kind of stuff.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: And and you literally just grab it yourself, you scan it, and you just walk away.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's that old thing where you go into Walmart and look you grab all your stuff and you exit, looks like you're stealing.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's actually I think since it's that's being introduced, I think it's actually a really good idea for the you know, it isn't if you're just wanting to grab a drink or something simple.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's no lines, right?
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: Just walk in, walk out, you don't miss anything, you know.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: It it's just you know, it's quick, it's convenient.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's I think it's a good idea.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: Nice as well.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: So and also they're building obviously the auto charger moving to the the arena, and they're building a whole big complex down below just for them.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I actually can't wait to see that.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'll probably get to see that um in the next couple of weeks and see see where they're at on that heard a lot of good things about it, and uh they're actually really happy to share the arena.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: Also, obviously it gives them what 20 20 plus dates and whatnot with you know extra dates and then and um I think it's also you're gonna get a bigger draw.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the east end of Ottawa, the you might not get as many fans coming back from the east end unless it's on a weekend, but you might draw newer fans because they were on in the central part of the city, right?
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: So you're gonna get more fans from the west end or maybe just on the exterior of Ottawa, like Manitic Carlton plays Iron, that kind of thing.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: And you're gonna draw, you know, somewhat different fan base.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: So the potentials there, they ended up getting you know 13 to 15,000 um around the in the around the playoff time.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I think uh if they can get you know, if they can average over 10,000 plus, I mean it's it's a boon for the team, you know, or for the organization.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: So for the league, and obviously for this, you know, Michael Anline.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: So it everything, you know, I think it'll be a good thing uh for you know for the building in the community and the Ottawa community.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and hopefully that'll be better for the women's game too.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh let's touch base on a little future uh stuff, but our Tem Zoob and Drake Batherson, uh their contracts are gonna be up uh after this season.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: Any rumors about them getting signed?
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: What would their contracts look like?
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um obviously I think they will both get signed eventually.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, there's more of a push to sign uh Drake Batherson now.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um what I guess was reported, I think they were a part maybe on dollars, and I know I think maybe the senators possibly wanted a slightly lesser term, but I'm not I know I can't be confident on that.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: But what I did hear there obviously was and it makes sense, there's a bit of a dollar disagreement.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: But um the bottom line is you know, there's a it's not a deadline per se, but it's it's it's a soft deadline.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's the new C BA comes into effect on the 15th of September, and you lose that eight-year, yeah, but eight-year uh, you know, obviously the re-sign of the club drops to seven, and if you leave it drops to six.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: So there is that.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: So it basically I think there is some pressure, maybe a little bit to get done, because Drake really wanted to stay in Ottawa and he wanted an eight-year deal.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, if it is about money, it is what it is, because at this point in time, obviously, you know, with the salary caps, uh you know, it increased tremendously, and then the following year it's going up even higher.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, even though the salary structures you want to try to keep it, you know, in with what Jake Sanderson's making, Tim Spielfell is making, Dylan Kesler's making, you want to keep it around like eight million dollars, that's not gonna happen.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, I think Drake's asking for probably 10 million plus, and that's unfortunately, not unfortunately, but that's the way it is, good for him.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: But it's uh it is what it is, as they say.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um in today's NHL with the salary cap going up, you have to pay, you know, you're gonna end up paying, you know, increase uh exponentially for that.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I think I think there'll be an agreement before uh before the 15th.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um it'd be really nice if Summer's golf tournament is next uh Tuesday, and it'd be real nice to announce it there or something.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: But that'd be really cool.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: But uh we'll see.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: But I think something will get done definitely before that.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: I know training camps is 17th, I think the first day on the ice.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: So if it goes beyond that, I mean it comes down to seven years, what happens then?
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but I think it'll get done in the next uh in the next week.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: And for our Tim Zoob, I mean, he's what 3031.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um solid defender.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think right now, um, I believe he's making around five million dollars.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's definitely gonna get to uh I would think over six, maybe up upwards of seven.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um probably I'm guessing um on maybe uh like a five-year deal or something like in something like that.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean he's a steady player.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: He has battled some injuries, he plays hard a hard game, but those injuries he had are really like concussion, broken jaw, that kind of I mean it's not you're not injury prone, you know what I'm saying?
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's just these one-offs that unfortunately it happens just from you know, just from playing hard minutes and just you know and just being a solid uh you know a two-way defender.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: So they do need Arjun Zub.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's a solid player.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: He's a great complementary player, especially for Jake Sanderson.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he allows Jake Sanderson to do what he does, and Arson Sube is actually not bad with the puck himself.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's got a great shot and he's put up you know around 30 points, so he is uh worthy, I guess, of a deal, like in that I'm guessing a five-year, six and a half to seven million dollar range.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I think um I don't think they're looking at an eight-year deal with him, so I don't think there's a more much of a rush as as Drake to get something done.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: All right, time for some trending, trending, trending now.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: A couple of days ago, the Blues, St.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Louis Blues named Ford Robert Thomas as their 25th captain in team history.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't long ago.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: There were rumors that they were trying to trade him.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: So what's the thinking behind this now?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's a very good question.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is, it is.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think with uh their other captain leaving, Braven Shen, they dealt Jordan Cairo.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think they just want the flans relating to probably uh you know a player that's uh been there quite a few years.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's a solid player, he's an 80-point guy, 80 plus point guy.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: And uh they want to keep them happy and they want to keep the fans happy, I think.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: So that might be just not as much I would say for for Robert Thomas, but it's also you know wanting to keep their fan base happy after you know moving on from their from their captain.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't have a good season last year, and Jordan Cairo moved on.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: So I think it's it's rewarding your your best player, but it's also again keeping your fans happy, I believe.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and again, speaking of captains, Puck Empire posted that the auto defenders are looking to name either Thomas Bot, Timothy Tutzel, or Jake Standardson and there.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: But then in comes this past Robert Top post, oh of course we gotta keep in mind that the senders got their previous captain on his team now, the Florida Panthers.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: So what's going on with these antics Martin playing fun and games?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's just it's a nothing burger, really.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think people are kind of I know that it's Brad Marchand.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: There's people in Ottawa, I don't know if they were offended sort of thing, but it's like, yeah, it's it's Brad Marchand doing Brad Marchand things, I believe.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, he's having he's poking fun, he's poking the bear, and you know, people how people react, he likes to do those kind of things.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't I don't make a big deal about it.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think if you somewhat without him to just kind of laugh at all something himself, but as far as as the captain seat goes, um there's uh people have also spoken about Claude Rue here, but I think Claude Rue is obviously he's a veteran guy, he's he's been there done that obviously for the Philadelphia Flyers for what 10, 10, 11 years.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: And he's a veteran guy, probably has a year or two left in Yale on his career.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: So and he's like um basically captain in regards.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like everybody looks up to him and he's he's you know he's a focal point in the dress union, the veteran guy.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um for um as for me as much as a lot of people are tending to put Jake Sanderson at the forefront, I think just the per his personality and just he's a quiet guy and he's a solid guy, and he just I think he just likes to stay in his lane and he's he's a tremendous player and he may win a Norse one day, but um as Thomas Shabbat has been here through thick and thin, right, since uh 20 I think he was 2017, 2016 uh so he's been there, he's seen everything.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: And as as he even said himself, the I like the four-letter word, but he goes, I've seen some shit.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what he's you know, right?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: So he's he's but and the good and the thing about Tom Shallot, um he is bilingual, so that's one thing in the community.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: And um he's very well liked um in the dressing room.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: And the one thing he actually organ like a lot of people don't know outside of you know the team circle, but he's the one actually what I've been told who does all the a lot of organizing outside events, um that kind of thing, dinners, golf events, that all that kind of stuff.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um he does a lot of that, actually, and he he goes out of his way to do that, and uh which is really good.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: And the other thing about Tom Shabat, in all the years that I've that I've known him and spoken to him, this is one guy who's probably being extremely honest, you know, gaming game out even after a bad loss.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's one of the first guys that that uh ends up speaking, like you speak to, and uh like I say he's a brutally honest guy, but he'll tell you, you know, tell it like it is.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's that's important with the captain.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think um that he's also well, like I said, he's well liked.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: I repeat myself, but he was well liked in the room.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: And uh Travis Green, obviously, he calls him a warrior.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: This is uh a player whose pain threshold is is off the charts.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: I mean um so he's always unfortunately he's he's had some major injuries and he's done his best to play through them.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: And the way Travis Green explains, he goes, he he's probably one of the one player who like like everybody, like I said, nobody looks up to, but he's one player who'll just keep on going and it doesn't matter how he's feeling, and he's always wanting to get out on the ice, even if he's you know, if he's in a lot of pain, and uh just like I said, he's got Captain Paul, let's say.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so all signs look like they're gonna point to Tom Shabbat.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: I believe so.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's uh if I'm putting some money down, I think I would go with Tom Shabbat.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think we'll go back quickly, but Tim Stoosla, um you know, he's gonna be your 89 point guy.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's Ready to be the captain yet?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think he might eventually be the captain, you know, if Shabbat moves on or something like later on.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: But at this point in time, I would I think I would go with the veteran guy, um, like Thomas Shabbat over over Stuciless and Sanderson, to be honest.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm I'm sure they're both going to receive and be wearing A's regardless.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I think uh it'd be the right decision.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Before we go, uh just wanted to touch base on the last thing that just got uh posted.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: Was the auto senders do plan to air a video tribute for Brady Kachuk when he returned to the Canadian Tire Center on October 21st?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think the response is gonna be from the fans?
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was there when that question was asked by uh Bruce Garyok.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was like literally right across from him.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um but he uh I think yeah, it's it's kind of hard to say.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't think it's hard.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: I think there'll be some polite applause.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, the little, you know, a little bit uh, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: A little mixed.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't I think there might be some obviously some booing, but I think I don't know about the the video trip, but if there'll be there might be a handful of people sort of thing, like you know, obviously airing their you know their uh disagreements and or you know not being happy, but I think there'll be some polite applause.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: But in the game itself, I think he's gonna get you know booed every time he touches the puck sort of thing, every time he's on the ice.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: So I I think there's two different things there, but I think I mean I mean the senders obviously have to show some class in in the situation and and air video tribute.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: You can't just do uh you know, thank you, uh break for check sort of thing, and you know, you put your you know, you zoom in on the on the bench and show you on the screen, right?
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_01: So I I think it's it's right that they do that.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: How the fans react is another matter, but I think they have to to show the class and do that.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, like I said, I think he'll be boobed when he touches the puck, but maybe some polite applause.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: And the way everything went down just wasn't I guess I don't want to say right, but it wasn't it was kind of expected, but in the in the long run, um, it's better to know two years out than one year out.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: So they can plan way ahead.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: So that was, I mean, I think it was expected at some point, and like I said, the earlier it's done, the better it was.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um sounds like some of the players weren't happy about it, the way everything went down, and uh you know, it is what it is.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: And Brady moves on and gets to be with his brother, and he's happy, and I think in the in the long run, I think the centers uh will be will be fine from it.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um they got a bunch of draft picks, which is much needed because the cover was pretty bare.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: And uh they got a couple good picks out of it, and he also traded the ninth pick, which they got in a deal for William Eklund.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and he's underrated.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: So he's very underrated, he's a solid player, and he gives them something a unique, um gives them something unique that they haven't had, let's say.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they have it gives them Thunders weren't slow, but they weren't the fastest team, let's say.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um it gives them a speedy winger who's an above-average playmaker, which I think they they truly need.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: And he can score the odd goal, I think, because Pie's 18 goals, but who knows?
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe if he's playing with with Stutzler and Batterson, let's say, maybe upset to 20 plus.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I'm sure playing with, you know, if you play on the line, let's say well, you're lining up by besides Stutzler or Cousins, you're gonna you're gonna up your, you know, he's probably gonna be a s he's being a 50-point guy.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: I think he can probably be 60 plus next season.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, there'll be some improvement there.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I think they'll be well off for it.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think they'll lose.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um when losing Kachuk, you're gonna lose that attitude, I guess, that swagger.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: But I I but I don't know if you're gonna lose the the talent on the ice sort of thing.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think you like say you got a different dynamic.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not sure the centers are more of a four-line team regardless.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I I think they'll you know, they'll make it out, they'll make it uh come through uh fine.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: They make the playoffs, I'm not sure.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, everybody in tough division, Florida's probably gonna be healthy.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm wondering if Tampa's gonna drop a step, maybe.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure how the leaps are.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure they really, you know, they they made a couple good additions in Bob and uh Radish, but are they really improved?
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: I don't still think they don't have any awesome Matthews.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: I still think um they don't have players with him, so I mean it's gonna be interesting.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: Buffalo's improved, but maybe they take a step back.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's hard to question like the leaves.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: In in my opinion, I think they've improved, but again, when you make drastic changes, especially with hockey and how it's a family, a lot has to come together too.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's what it is.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, exactly.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: So there's that's a that's a big change there.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll see.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: Boston, Detroit.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think they'll be in the mix this year, and we'll see how it goes.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: It might be the same team's challenging, but uh it's gonna be an interesting season.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: It sure will be.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: Murray, thanks for joining me.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, uh thank you very much, Peter.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: Great to be here.
• 27:59
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• 28:08
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• 28:12
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