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- 0:25Speaker 1: Great for Griddle today college offensive lineman. And that's what
- 0:29Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about on today's show. I'm going
- 0:32Speaker 1: to be bringing back our buddy, Tony Gerderman if Buckheadle
- 0:34Speaker 1: dot com to continue our series on the pre spring
- 0:36Speaker 1: depth charts for the Ohio State Buck Eyes and Tony.
- 0:40Speaker 1: This is the offensive line. It feels like we've been
- 0:43Speaker 1: every time we talk about them. We talk about seven
- 0:46Speaker 1: guys they feel pretty good about right now, and then
- 0:48Speaker 1: it's just a matter of who's going to sort of
- 0:50Speaker 1: fit where. And you could align these guys in about
- 0:55Speaker 1: six or seven different lineups and I go, yeah, sure,
- 0:58Speaker 1: I could see that, But I'm going to put you
- 1:00Speaker 1: on the spot here. Who is the starting left tackle
- 1:05Speaker 1: for the Ohio State Buckeyes right now? And who's the
- 1:09Speaker 1: second stringer.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Right now? I will say that it is Austin Ciriveld,
- 1:16Speaker 2: And then who is the second string guy? You know, Tom,
- 1:23Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we are out of time. It's been great
- 1:25Speaker 2: to be thank you for having me. I mean, you
- 1:29Speaker 2: look at the tackles, and I can't say it's Ian
- 1:32Speaker 2: Moore because I believe he and Austin Seerveld are going
- 1:35Speaker 2: to be your your two starting tackles. But that second
- 1:39Speaker 2: string left tackle, it could be Carter low it could
- 1:43Speaker 2: be Deontay Armstrong, it could be true true freshman, you know,
- 1:47Speaker 2: Sam Greer. At some point, you know, you get true
- 1:50Speaker 2: freshman Max Riley in there as well. And so I
- 1:54Speaker 2: think we'll just go ahead and say at this point
- 1:58Speaker 2: Carter Lowe is the number two left tackle right right now. Now.
- 2:03Speaker 2: That may change once I see something on March tenth, though.
- 2:08Speaker 1: And if we're going to do this the Jim Boleman way,
- 2:10Speaker 1: then the real second string left tackle, the guy who's
- 2:14Speaker 1: probably going to go in if the starting left tackle
- 2:17Speaker 1: gets hurt. Well, it's probably the other guy who's playing
- 2:21Speaker 1: right tackle, and then who's the backup right tackle in
- 2:24Speaker 1: that case, the second guy to go in at right tackle,
- 2:26Speaker 1: that's probably the guy who's starting.
- 2:27Speaker 2: At right guard.
- 2:28Speaker 1: But we'll get there. This is there's there's a lot
- 2:31Speaker 1: of different ways to put together an offensive line depth start.
- 2:34Speaker 1: We're doing it the real true you're only on there
- 2:38Speaker 1: once kind of way, not the Jim Bowman way. But
- 2:41Speaker 1: you know there are many there are many ways to
- 2:43Speaker 1: do this.
- 2:44Speaker 2: The video game way, right. You look at you chart
- 2:46Speaker 2: on the video game.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So. Yeah, So that's and I think there's
- 2:51Speaker 1: a perfectly it would be perfectly reasonable to say, actually
- 2:56Speaker 1: flip those two tackles and put Ian Moore at left
- 2:59Speaker 1: tackle and Austin Seervel at right tackle. I know, I don't.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I don't think there's a real strong lean one way
- 3:07Speaker 1: or the other just yet. This is all stuff they're
- 3:09Speaker 1: probably gonna be sorting out during spring ball.
- 3:13Speaker 2: I do think Ian Moore will be the starting left
- 3:15Speaker 2: tackle this season. But you asked me today, you already
- 3:22Speaker 2: gave the date.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Yeah, That's that's one of those things where there are
- 3:27Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of things that are going
- 3:29Speaker 1: to be tried this spring and we'll see how it
- 3:32Speaker 1: all goes. But yeah, if if you're asking me right now,
- 3:35Speaker 1: I would guess you have a decent chance of having
- 3:38Speaker 1: Ean Moore being your start starting left tackle for that
- 3:40Speaker 1: ball State starting left guard right now. That feels like
- 3:44Speaker 1: a little bit less of a mystery. Ohio State had
- 3:46Speaker 1: it the same starting left guard all of last season.
- 3:48Speaker 2: He's back.
- 3:49Speaker 1: But I'm assuming you are with me that Luke Montgomery
- 3:52Speaker 1: is left guard number one. Who is behind Luke Montgomery
- 3:56Speaker 1: at left guard?
- 3:57Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna assume it's the same guy that
- 3:59Speaker 2: was there last times and now was Jake Cook as
- 4:01Speaker 2: a true freshman making his way into the too deep,
- 4:04Speaker 2: so I expect him to be there as well. I
- 4:07Speaker 2: think the only thing that may alter that is the
- 4:11Speaker 2: amount of people vying for right guard, which we'll eventually
- 4:14Speaker 2: get to. But right now, if we're just piasting this out,
- 4:18Speaker 2: I will say Jake Cook as your number two left guard,
- 4:22Speaker 2: but reserving the right to change that once right guard
- 4:26Speaker 2: shakes out, and you see how whoever is the ninth
- 4:30Speaker 2: or the number nine or number ten offensive lineman or
- 4:34Speaker 2: whichever number you would need to get to. Basically, You're
- 4:37Speaker 2: gonna have a number of guys that can play left
- 4:39Speaker 2: guard if that happens. If something were to happen to
- 4:41Speaker 2: Luke Montgomery, your number six guy can play that position
- 4:47Speaker 2: or can play another position, and whoever that person is
- 4:51Speaker 2: being replaced it then can go play left guard. So
- 4:54Speaker 2: I'll say long anch or short time, which is what
- 4:57Speaker 2: you wanted, Jake Cook.
- 5:00Speaker 1: That's it. That's a reasonable, reasonable answer. Right guard is
- 5:03Speaker 1: gonna be the one where we have a long and
- 5:05Speaker 1: involved conversation and say about six different names. Center center
- 5:10Speaker 1: is probably a relatively straightforward one, but at least one
- 5:14Speaker 1: of the names we're gonna be talking about here is
- 5:16Speaker 1: probably also in the conversation at right guard.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Yeah, Carson Hinzman, you're a returning starter, Josh Badilla, you're
- 5:22Speaker 2: returning back up. Even though we saw Padia at right
- 5:25Speaker 2: guard a bunch last year. I think if something were
- 5:30Speaker 2: to happen to Carson, he would be the guy, even
- 5:33Speaker 2: though you know he may he may win the right
- 5:35Speaker 2: guard job, which we'll talk about. But that's again where
- 5:38Speaker 2: whoever is your best your second best center is you know,
- 5:42Speaker 2: your number two, even if they don't necessarily line up
- 5:45Speaker 2: there at times.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So that's This is the difference between when
- 5:50Speaker 1: the twos are in there and at practice and who
- 5:54Speaker 1: you know, if the number one center goes down in
- 5:56Speaker 1: a game, who is the second person to go in there.
- 5:59Speaker 1: There is a lot of times that is a different answer.
- 6:01Speaker 1: This is probably one of those years where that's the case.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Right guard. Okay, here we go. This is the only
- 6:07Speaker 1: spot where Ohio State technically is replacing a starter from
- 6:10Speaker 1: last year's team. And then and it's taker Shibola. He's
- 6:14Speaker 1: off to Kentucky. So what do you want to do here?
- 6:19Speaker 1: This is this is one where I thought, you know,
- 6:21Speaker 1: maybe there's some pun here to be made about buck
- 6:24Speaker 1: Eyes tomorrow morning and we have to just spell it
- 6:27Speaker 1: tom oh r oh morning because there's so many oars
- 6:31Speaker 1: here on the depth chart for the right guard spot.
- 6:34Speaker 1: This is one where I could I could see a
- 6:36Speaker 1: legitimate argument for maybe like three or four different guys.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Yeah, and on one of my depth charts that I
- 6:45Speaker 2: had there, I also had Austin Seerveld possibly there. Just
- 6:49Speaker 2: you know, all of these oars, right, because what if
- 6:52Speaker 2: the two best tackles end up being Ian Moore and
- 6:54Speaker 2: Philip Daniels, what are you not going to play Austin Siraveld, No,
- 6:57Speaker 2: you're going to play him. And so like right guard,
- 7:00Speaker 2: I had Josh Padilla or Austin Seerveld or Philip Daniels
- 7:05Speaker 2: or Ian Moore or Gabe Van Sickle. And then I
- 7:08Speaker 2: also said that those five would be a top half
- 7:11Speaker 2: of the Big ten offensive line. You know, by them,
- 7:14Speaker 2: you could you could put them at left tackle, left guard, center,
- 7:18Speaker 2: right guard, and right tackle and they'd be pretty darn good.
- 7:21Speaker 2: So choosing from from those guys, I think they're gonna
- 7:26Speaker 2: be okay. Now we heard Brian Day mentioned Philip Daniels
- 7:30Speaker 2: vying for that, but also Josh Padilla and Gabe Van
- 7:34Speaker 2: Sickle and even Jake Cook. So you've got a number
- 7:39Speaker 2: three or four guys there. I think it depends on
- 7:43Speaker 2: how Philip Daniels picks up the position, presuming that he
- 7:45Speaker 2: has fully moved there, or if this is just gonna
- 7:49Speaker 2: be one of those things where they tell us in
- 7:50Speaker 2: the spring, yeah, we're just moving guys around, we're just seeing,
- 7:52Speaker 2: we're just checking, we're just looking, or if he is
- 7:56Speaker 2: going to be fully moved there, because it feels like
- 7:58Speaker 2: you really need to be fully invested in in moving
- 8:01Speaker 2: on the offensive line. If you're going to be as
- 8:03Speaker 2: good as you need to be. So I do think
- 8:07Speaker 2: with his experience, in his tenacity, he's a pretty decent
- 8:12Speaker 2: bet to win that job. I have no clue whether
- 8:15Speaker 2: he's going to be number one to start in the
- 8:16Speaker 2: spring or what. I wonder what Tyler Bowen knows in
- 8:21Speaker 2: terms of, like, well does he know right now who's
- 8:24Speaker 2: going to be his first right guard, especially if you
- 8:27Speaker 2: still want Josh Pidia getting snaps at center. So you know,
- 8:32Speaker 2: I guess who would shock you the least.
- 8:36Speaker 1: I think I think Daniels would be the least surprising
- 8:42Speaker 1: starting right guard to me, just because I'm putting a
- 8:45Speaker 1: lot of that on Ryan Day's comments on the Coaching
- 8:49Speaker 1: Show a couple of weeks ago where he just kind
- 8:51Speaker 1: of matter of factly had him in that conversation at
- 8:54Speaker 1: right guard. And we know that he can play at
- 8:58Speaker 1: a you know, pretty so at big ten level, and
- 9:02Speaker 1: the whatever shortcomings people viewed in his game had a
- 9:06Speaker 1: lot to do with the quickness piece of being a
- 9:09Speaker 1: tackle rather than the size or the strength or the
- 9:13Speaker 1: mean streak that is required of being a guard. He
- 9:17Speaker 1: has the makeup of a guard, maybe even more so
- 9:20Speaker 1: than a tackle, So That feels like a very natural
- 9:24Speaker 1: move to me. But this is also you know, they
- 9:27Speaker 1: have the luxury of what we always say with the
- 9:29Speaker 1: offensive line, they're going to find their best five and
- 9:32Speaker 1: then they'll figure out where those guys fit. I think
- 9:35Speaker 1: among the top seven or eight. You could take almost
- 9:39Speaker 1: any combination of those and say, okay, make a starting
- 9:44Speaker 1: five out of this and have guys in logical position.
- 9:48Speaker 1: So let's go now to the right tackle spot. By
- 9:51Speaker 1: process of elimination. I think we know that Ian Moore
- 9:53Speaker 1: is going to be your starter there. Who do you
- 9:55Speaker 1: have behind Ian Moore?
- 9:58Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess you're probably talking about, you know,
- 10:04Speaker 2: Deontay More or Carter Low. I know we mentioned Carter
- 10:06Speaker 2: Low at left tackle. This becomes again your number three
- 10:10Speaker 2: overall tackle as your backup at both spots kind of thing.
- 10:14Speaker 2: So we'll see it, you know, is I guess maybe
- 10:17Speaker 2: you'll see the true freshman wherever they feel worse in
- 10:21Speaker 2: terms of like do they do they feel like, say
- 10:25Speaker 2: Carter Low, if he has the backup tackle, they want
- 10:27Speaker 2: to give him a good look. They feel good about that.
- 10:30Speaker 2: So you move a freshman or two over to right
- 10:32Speaker 2: tackle to compete with, say Deontay Armstrong in that position.
- 10:36Speaker 2: So you know, Armstrong, this is his third year now,
- 10:40Speaker 2: so he needs to This is about the time where
- 10:42Speaker 2: this needs to be a good spring for him and
- 10:45Speaker 2: he needs to show something. He needs to fend off
- 10:48Speaker 2: the freshman from behind him. So he's he's got to
- 10:51Speaker 2: This is a big, big spring for him as some
- 10:54Speaker 2: young players who are two years younger than he is
- 10:58Speaker 2: are looking to claim his spot.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Yeah, when we talk about the offensive lineman and guys
- 11:03Speaker 1: like Sam Greer, who's a fringy five star, who's i
- 11:07Speaker 1: think two spots out of being a five star or
- 11:09Speaker 1: something like that in two four sevens rankings, everyone wants
- 11:13Speaker 1: to kind of pencil him in as a second teamer.
- 11:15Speaker 1: And we always say, listen, offensive line, you'd never assume
- 11:19Speaker 1: a guy's gonna play as a freshman. We'll see you
- 11:22Speaker 1: any year, and in most cases, we'll see you in
- 11:24Speaker 1: two years. For Deontay Armstrong, all right, third years here,
- 11:27Speaker 1: let's let's see what it's uh, let's see what it's
- 11:30Speaker 1: looking like. We're gonna have probably a show coming up,
- 11:33Speaker 1: one of our usual pre spring shows, but which buck Eyes,
- 11:36Speaker 1: this is the biggest Spring four of anyone on the team,
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