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Ep 232 - Saints Changing Culture + USC Pro Day Recap · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: hashtag, you know, music, no intro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back another episode of the Saints Block Party podcast coming at you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a Friday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what's first of all?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Much love shout out to our dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris were recording live last streaming, woof internet just dropped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we just keep rolling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If this is what happens when we have stream out the gate, Chris with the $50 super chat, pre-shate you brother, much love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Saints bought party podcasts, presented it brought to you by precious works LLC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're recording on a Friday night talking about the saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like the entire, I guess you could say like the entire theme of this offseason so far in terms of reagency and things of, in terms of things getting going, is there's already, I think I saw there was 15, 20 people waiting for the live stream on a Friday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember since Ryan and I start this podcast when that has been the case,
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is your first time listening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are Saints Black Party podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My name is Adam and I am typically joined by my co-hosts, my pal, my friend my buddy Ryan aka wolf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just got back on right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just kept it going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have covered many things specifically for the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that there's a Friday night, and before we even started recording, there was like 20 people waiting for the last three if that doesn't tell you Like it's for and it's 10 p.m. central time if that doesn't tell you what this team is in like invested into the community of Saints fandom, I don't know what else will I don't know what else will
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just changing baby like I've been in the middle of March March, baby We had to see it on already slowed down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We already in like way three if we agency and niggas do Listen, we okay, then we'll get into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this episode we're gonna talk about
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[SPEAKER_01]: How essentially this offseason very much is about how the culture and Kevin Moore and what the team is doing is get towards changing the culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of the New Orleans Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to get into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about the press conferences and introductory press conferences for the free agents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about the USC Pro Day that took place yesterday that myself and our due Kevin was at, but I've been meaning to ask you this question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have a meaning to ask you in the podcast and I haven't been able to ask you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll Smith from the pursuit of happiness right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you two need a fresh cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also though, congrats to work for passing his certification today, my man was stressing stress and past that bitch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Past that book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your heart?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we can get you a job on airline, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't that be some shit, bro?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I passed out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Saints can't afford to be burned for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I mean, you saw what, um, what Gail Benson was paying her her assistant or what anyway, so this has just been on my mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess Target is quote unquote canceled, but like target pickup while mark pickup, whatever pick up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like in order ahead in the you not using for like target grocery stores and stuff like that, not normally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, we will pick up some stuff sometimes like yeah, I call it's like, you know, target we've done target a couple of times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about okay, so that what is the
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[SPEAKER_01]: etiquette for when you say you're on the way like what is like the time frame of when you hit that button when you're on the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like give me give me like minutes and tell you what I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I part in the in the reserves part and I go walk in there and go get my shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't sit there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I people sit there and hit the phone, hit the thing on the app or they've called a number of them to come out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't got time for all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's you're going to be sitting there waiting a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't got no time for this shit Well the reason I asked is me and Jay had this like so when I used to do target pickup Well my pickup whatever
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would, I would say I'm on the way when I left from like a home visit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like a home, the home visit could be like 45 minutes away and like an hour away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But because it says you're on the way, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, why would you do that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're always supposed to do that when you're like 15 minutes away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, since, oh, it doesn't, it doesn't, doesn't specify what you're saying you're on the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, on the way is on the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's just something that I have bad wanted to,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember when we first got little Wal-Marts, we could do the pickups and, you know, my first time trying it at a park, then I hit like, you know, I'll say, well, as we know deep was, I said that would do this to the get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Martin has the worst, the worst has some of the worst pick-up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, anyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my, let me, you know, I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now the theme I have really seen for this team, this offseason, free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a couple of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the big theme I've seen is changing the culture and the attitude of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of taking bandies off and walking away from the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing kind of both in the same off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I mean by that is that walking away from the past has a lot of like
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[SPEAKER_01]: walking away from like the the being under the shadow of Sean Peyton, which I'm Peyton had built.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could say how you could say what you want to say even during those years that Dennis Allen was the head coach it still just felt like he was like just trying to copy and pace maybe do some things a little different but still very much like even the personnel was very
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also under Dennis Island, the team had established a culture of Luzi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had been for renewal losers except like his first season, but other than that, like they didn't win a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I see this effort of getting players from winning teams and free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, so I went to Mario Davis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about Cam Jordan later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: y'all can come back if y'all want to come back, but if y'all don't come back, that price gotta be right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that price ain't right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We gotta do what we gotta do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know, and I saw a couple of things like on Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: when they when they really started to Mario Davis video and people are like, well, they could afford to Mario and it's like, it's not about if they could have afford it to Mario or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Mario Davis as great as a person that he is a 37 year old linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has done, he played incredible football for the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did a lot of team-friendly deals, but like, he's 37.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's this is his last payday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he deserves to get paid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is so fascinating to see this team try to transform itself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, we heard a lot during the pressures of like, wanted to come to New Orleans because of Tyler Schuck, which is, can you make, like, crazy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't that, ain't
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Shuck was on the downs and downs podcast with killin' downs and Josh got him down, Jordan downs and said, well crazy, that is how instantly insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the crazy thing is like he only played like a handful of game last season, 10 games like what the 10 games it felt like it was even less than that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: even like that truncated amount of games got noticed by free agents got noticed by draft prospects and the future looks completely different than it did like even a year ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unbelievable, it's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just crazy what just, and I wouldn't even call this a success because the same's for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They won't see games, it's not like they had, like a ton of success or anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's what we talked about, it was talking about, it's how it looks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody like to talk about that, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 99 and 99, when season D had, a couple years ago, they had like the easiest schedule like in the history of NFL, or whatever, one night games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, we watched that team, like that night when, like, didn't mean, but people were like, oh, it's not when nine wins, it's not when it's like, no, like nobody could really look at that team and be like, okay, they built it some more for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they're really cooking, they're really building some promise and over that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, like you didn't look at that team and be like, they were building something, but this team is tattered and beat up and lack of talent, they were, you could still see last
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, like this is all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a skeleton there that's something there that you could see that has some potential, you know, there's like a flower coming out to coming out the ground just a little piece of flowers like okay, I could see some potential right there and I think it's just it's just spread man is spread in the cross.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really amazing to see shout out the shop man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A-San.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A-10.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A-San.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the steakhouse with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wine and, uh, air decor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just looking like...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't really took over this team that quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you really just cooking to say, okay, this is my team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what you got to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that comes from him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just being an older guy, being more mature and just having that kind of option to just go ahead, okay, I'm, you know, I'm just going on it, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's infectious across the across everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kelly we're talking about that is personal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy who's been with, you know, it's with the Rams was with Buffalo, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will in teams he, Kelly said he's guy who saw what it's supposed to look like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what Kelly said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and that's like, that's a big thing for Kelly because right now we have a bunch of guys on the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that don't know what it's supposed to look like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they've been, it's from the D.A.
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[SPEAKER_00]: era, and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know what it's supposed to look like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's good to have guys like, David, that was commended.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's what it's supposed to look like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, we had guys like Cam and the Mario.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They knew what it was supposed to look like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, that time, time is moving on, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can turn the chapter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just got to, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was saying,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jack Hunter in the chat said suck just happy to be here almost don't win say car accidents no joke bro, I hope oh man, like Prince up, right yo, you okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shut up Jake bro Like old dude remember the titans bro like he got got got the radio And we're like one he puts his arms are like this That's Jack right now We just can't jack something that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even Jake said this in at the combine mentioning that Chris Bell from losing on it is wanting Chuck to get him on the squad Like Palatekin tell us, okay Do whatever you got to do to tell for our office to make sure I come play with you So the bills in another day in the building It's just though and I'm not beating a dead horse, but it's just like this one 80
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[SPEAKER_01]: from their car, like, it's just completely different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that stood out to me, you know, Travis HN, you could definitely tell like, he just wanted to be back in Louisiana and be back home so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, he even said, you know, the cheese was involved, the Broncos were involved, but as soon as like he got that call from the same, it was like, that was it, like, that was it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When they put the picture of Ryan right up, I thought that was David Edwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not think that was the damn point, but that was thick, thick, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot,
14:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But what were your overall just so I was the pressures were going on literally as you as C prote was happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was trying to keep up with the tweets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I went back and listened to a couple of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what are just your overall thoughts?
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[SPEAKER_01]: from the introductory presser, so they had Ryan Wright, David Edwards, and Noah Fants, yesterday, and then Travis Hans this morning, just thought when you heard the new additions to the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just, you know, the vibes were all positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As you would expect, I mean, you know, do sided big contracts, you know, it was good to see here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: David, that was just really good to listen to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He sounds like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: just your quintessential like, you know, offensive linemen like he's going to be that guy in the room and it's a young room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Eric McCoy, it is obviously a leader too, but you know, he think about Kevin Banks and for why I got a guy anyway, like, so it's good to have him up in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he talked about how he, you know, how he's excited to work with Kevin Banks, he talked about how, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he watched a good bit of the Saints preparing for the play of Jess, and his crossover tape, you know, Jess defense versus Saints offense, and he said he got to watch Tyler suck, and he was like, well, it was, it's too complete, like, all of now, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, you got to know this Kelvin Banks, also like, man, this is a little young stud right here, this boy's young, but he's talented and he's excited to play right next to him, and love card,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just hear that guy, just like I had just very in tune with what's going on, you know, uh, it was good and positive to hit it, you know, um, also, uh, kid, now it's got to hear him, you know, he just, I was right before that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just, you know, just, just sounds great man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds great, looks great, just look like, look like he's just gonna fit right in, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He talked about,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They came out with a more handsome, like, they would see always the feel for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but he looked like, he just looked like the Chad, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just looked like that guy, you know, but, oh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He, he, he talked about like, you know, coming up with the sense coming up, playing behind the Mario, all the stuff he just took in from the Mario Davis, the leadership, the community stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just repeated so many things that he, like he's just crazy to hit that, like he, because he ain't been with the Saints for years now, but he, yeah, he's a village that just recall all the stuff he learned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: from the Mario Davis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that just goes to show this high point like the Mario Davis was having him in the building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that just shows like it's a good, that's a good pick-up to get Helus, you know, when you're trying to move on from kind of that old, that's a new, Helus is kind of like a blender, too, because he didn't, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been with the Saints, he was drafted under, you know, Sean Payton and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, he's kind of bringing
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[SPEAKER_00]: to win like the highlight of the presser, specifically killing more, was he was as most of the times about the other comrades, particularly he was as a pointy question by a girl cat, you know, cat, no combative, all of a sudden, she just basically asked like, okay, like
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[SPEAKER_00]: what's to deal with with with of Camara like he's here part of the team like he's part of the team in twenty twenty six and it was a nine answer like it was you know the process is going to kind of let the process process process process process and I'm just like what's it like isn't the not like isn't the non answer the answer did I like I think I think about
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been at the combine twice now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is, I don't know if you ever watched the show a lot of me lie to me, like in terms of like, it was the, on Fox about like tells when people are like lying and I tell them truth, it was really good, very underrated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I've just picked up on a couple of like nuances that perfect example.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I asked a book,
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[SPEAKER_01]: a very pointed question to Chris Ballard about Michael Pippman Jr. And I said, you know, Michael Pippman Jr. about up on NFL Daily, you know, that he didn't know his future with the Colts were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so like, can you, you know, does my, you know, can you expand on Michael Pippman's Jr's future with the Colts?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He immediately started telling a story about Michael Pippman being a pilot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, nigga, like, what are you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't call it, like, it was purely hypothetical for Michael Pippman not to be in the Colts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: something happened similarly last year when I asked Mike McDonald a question about Gino Smith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he, like, so all that to say when the answer, sometimes even when the answer is a straight, like sometimes coaches or Gino's will tell you like, well, last straight TFA is where I just tell you exactly what it is and we saw that last day with Derek Carr, the Darryl Harz situation after the combat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that Kellen didn't,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Provided answer and he gave a non-answer was is so telling and I don't know for sure But I would say just from just being a logical person that the the chances of AK having a spot on this team Is like less than 50 and I'm not saying that potentially he's gonna get cut or he's gonna get traded You know, it could be that he just chooses to retire like that is you know You know right before it said that the day that HN got got signed so
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[SPEAKER_01]: With that said, and I don't think that they would, but if A.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: was the retired, and if somehow drew my love out to eight, when you do it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, that's so fascinating.
20:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so fascinating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause like, a lot of team build is wouldn't like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe like, okay, I'll just pay the guy at $13,000.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the run-in-back version of what the Falcons did with the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously not today degree, but it's very similar because you're investing a lot in a run-in-back position, which is important position, don't get me wrong, but it's still like a position where it's like, okay.
21:08
[SPEAKER_00]: when your team build, and that's not where you plan on spending like $26 million on a top 10 pick and $13 million, it's just a team of butt on a flip side.
21:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us, tell us, tell us, tell it, tell it, and the old one is looking better bro.
21:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And look, I mean, you could just, like, schematically, you could just start.
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You could just pound team with bro.
21:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Just pound team.
21:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it looked like, you know, maybe you're from now, you treated me a channel.
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you could, it's not like you just stuck like that.
21:44
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, we'll get to that if that happens.
21:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Kelli Morgan can't really lie, like he can't breath.
21:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Greg said, you know what I'm talking about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a struggle to lie which is like I guess a good trait like I was good that you're not a good liar like you know They but it's still funny to see Then you can't Just can't do lie like you just lie you could just say look he's on the contract.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I guess he just starts to just start sweating right and bro But yeah It's not looking like it just looking at some of the comments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know it just look like aka won't be here, bro
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like in the end, I get like the same friends, I really do get them, you know, even with Camjo and like, man, I would love for Cam to come back one of my favorite things at the same time, long time, same, life time, same, I would love him, like, to finish career here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's also, like, the flip side of his, well, like, these things really didn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rarely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rarely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They usually end injured.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or they're leaving to go to another team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just never is like with handshakes and usually it's better to come back or it can sound different to this stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you really see situations like with Drew Breeze, the way he was able to retire, rarely just with the Saints and you know, just leave apical be every tire, but it just kind of is what it is, man, like I'm for, like just moving on and turning chapters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm speaking of turning chapters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: put this question from the question from the chat and then get back to the cam Jordan piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I forgot can't you know it's even on the bucket team bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kendra can drive, I don't know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it is, it was an ACR, it was an ACR.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that would just talk about moving on from chapters, like that's a chapter, you guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's an easy chapter to move on to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Easy, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he, if he, if he, and he sounds old enough team and it looks great, like, great for that team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good feeling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in this, Jack Cuenterson, card, T-bone, another card.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was walking on the sidewalk and the car flew in my direction and ran.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Glory to God that there was a treat that took the hit with me standing five feet away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who sounds like some final destination type shit?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or who?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: glad you're okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: glad you're okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that sounds scary is shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about the campground thing because if you go to, and I said this last week, I think it was, I don't know, no, this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like if you like go to campground in social media, it is very like no calls, no texts, kind of like feeling disrespected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and this is what I can say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the Saints want prior to the draft, if they can, want to address adressure, corner back, potentially another tie-in, I know they would still like to add in joke who, maybe, you know, another tie-in that Kailimora has coached in the past was a corner, corner edge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like to address those, if they get, if it's the right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even Kellen said, like, there are still some players that for the agency that they would like to add.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not just pulling the center of my ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With adressure, it feels like they are wanting to go younger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's no shot at cam, but more explosive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they're able to go younger and more explosive, then they're willing to spend more money,
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[SPEAKER_01]: pressure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they bring cam back, I think they're in this position where it's like, we are okay having you back, but if you're coming back, like this, this is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we can do up to this much and I don't, I don't want to say like say like a super hard line in negotiations, but that line seems like it's a pretty
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[SPEAKER_01]: heart line that they're not wanting to cross.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I also think for Cam, it's been a little humbling for how things have played out in free agency with his market or potentially like, maybe like, lack thereof.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he feels disrespected.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Period, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I couldn't understand it from his perspective.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You, you, you, you, you coming up with 10 and a 10 and a half sex, you've been with the team, you attack a rear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, last year, you took kind of like a, what's called an opaque cut, but you allowed them, allowed some wiggle room to focus on the symptoms and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You earned the money back, but you had to earn it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you feel disrespectful because now you're coming to them and it's like, look, man, I have show loyalty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My loyalty has been there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, can't you show it to me now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, can you show me a little loyalty?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we know how the business goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no loyalty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no loyalty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Saints have been like loyal to a folk for a lot of, for a lot of times, for a lot of years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think now, and this is what happens like when you switch up, you know, you've been playing a loyalty game for years and now you switch up and now you want to be a, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You break hearts like that, even though it might be the smartest thing to do, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just to me from a team better standpoint, it makes sense from this to the dust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it just does, you know, like I know Cam looking at Cameron here, we're getting 60 minutes from the Steelers like that, and look at that, like we same draft class, they take care of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I understand that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But from the Steelers standpoint, like that's stupid, like that, 60 million.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a little care of here with these all the family, but I brought like y'all
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[SPEAKER_00]: saying they do the same thing with quarterback to keep on after him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rogers, you know, what are y'all doing, you know, so I'm happy to say it's so kind of just being true businessmen, you know, taking them a while and it's taking them long enough, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you also get the, how do I word it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think there are fans who are very much of like just bringing back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, and that's, like, bringing back, or like, like, you can afford and bring back, and it's like, you gotta be a, so you gotta be a smart team, like, and just in regards to just team building, like, you have to be a smart team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else from the pressers and Kellen, Kellen talking and having the presser, we want to head on before we jump into maybe like USC Pro Day in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nah, it didn't sit man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just interesting to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another thing that's interesting to be is just like we're seeing all these players, like veteran players that grew up,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Saints fans like grew up watching trees and like I grew up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember watching two trees and markets co-stained and you know Michael time is and all that is like Damn like we at that point now where veteran players grown up
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[SPEAKER_00]: watch to the face, breathe our oil.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's just a maze of the sea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Travis HM said that he, he wore nine, when he did some because, because it drew.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, let's take our break right here and after that we're going to come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Finish up frequency talk, go into U.S.E.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pro Day, I'm in talks and draft talk right after this break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's hilarious?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is something I've noticed with two teams, especially in the top 10, with the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the commanders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've, you know, there's still some things that they can do on the edges.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I think the things are still going to be active and try to add players prior to the draft next next month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they've done a really good job of feeling needs and must so that come draft day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could just go the
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[SPEAKER_01]: best player of bailout and I feel like specifically in the tight, the Titans have done it a bit as well, but the commanders, the Saints have just done that very much so in free agency and it's so funny because they pick right after each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be I and the same the same players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be fascinating, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But especially the Titans, the Titans went ham.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the
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[SPEAKER_00]: position to go best player, even the Browns, they sign like two big time offensive linemen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think three, they traded for offensive linemen, and signed two, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They traded for Howard, they signed Jenkins, and they signed another one that I'm, oh, they resigned to have evidence against.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they still need a love tackle, like you're still like a big knee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hoping that's still that pick in the draft at whatever they pick six or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you never know what those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's just a beauty of free agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like all those mock drafts we've been doing for months, it just straight out straight out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then you really start to see how to draft falls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like back, Jeremiah my love is like, man, say he did get to eight and then it says pass on like chief stages paid, get it walker and walker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, how far does he fall?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's like, man, the draft is just crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You think about it, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, and that's perfect segue for us to say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to join the St. Black Party podcast at our draft party next month in New Orleans, think we are up to,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, I think I said the last day to RSVP at the end of this month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to join us, the draft, and they are so fun because the rules that we set like no spoilers, shout out coal, black, no spoilers, like just everyone off their phone or just whatever, just that true feeling of like not knowing what's coming in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is such a fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Experienced, especially when you're around, you're like, crew, you're food, and food, and food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just don't join it, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Talking, talking, draft, and all of that wouldn't have just be dope, this was to just finally get a pick where we just all excited, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, every year, every year is just like,
35:38
[SPEAKER_01]: hemisphere said I think Sanker goes to be the slot corner black man to be the safety's no the safety read of the safety black man is debt or they make like there may be some
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[SPEAKER_01]: some like formations or some where they're all playing 360 set, but like thinkers not a slot corner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I said like they want a corner, like as much as we, this is not even like a need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a must, it's a need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And however they choose to address that is we'll wait and see, Jack Hunter said, do you think it's possible that the things go corner back at eight and kick someone to the Taylor position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If so, who do you think we move?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All I'll say Jack is stuff like that is like we discuss all like you're not
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[SPEAKER_01]: The draft tip bits like the best draft tip is you're going to get is in our discord.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can become a patron, be in our discord, or you two may be in our discord, or our prospect of the week episodes that our Patreon only or YouTube member only has all those draft tip bits, I promise you they do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Outward set, question item.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you have a lot of times you like to keep it organic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, 90 to 95% of the time,
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[SPEAKER_01]: do not seek out information.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't ask, but just, I don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the person that's my source is not just a source, like it's like a true friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't want it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never wanted to become a situation where it was like, oh, I'm just asking for information just to ask.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're like, true friendship there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would say like 99, I don't ask, it is, you know, so which I preached, I preached it because then we can share it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the things that we can share, I can't share, if I can't share it, I don't share it.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that the USC Pro Day yesterday speaking of the draft party like much love to Kevin much who had our first draft party that was in 2022, which was last time the thanks draft to the player that we were happy about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was me, you, Jay, Bree, and then Kevin and his brother popped up because they were in Vegas for the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They popped up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, Kevin has just been such like a OG, great supporter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was dope his shit for him to be able to join me at the USC Pro Day yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously the stars of the show, McIlliman, Jacobi Lane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't time the 40 because that's not what I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His second 40 was much better than his first, you know, you could read the reports.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was said that he was in between like the four point,
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[SPEAKER_01]: four, four, eight or like four, five, three, which it's 100% like accurate in terms of like his name speed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's what we predicted on the prospect of a week episode, but just seeing him go through, he was only going to initially run the 40 and then he went out there and did the passing trails and would have you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's speak about McCoy limit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, 20 pulling came out and said, put it out today that he sees it heart by him getting past the Rams at 13. Who was at the pro day?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Less knee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Haschown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at Nito, but me and Kevin saw him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was right in front of us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, last, and I even asked Kevin, like, all the other teams that were there because 20 points at all three teams were there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see anyone saying to relate it, but I believe 20 pulling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the fact that the GM of the rail, the GM, the GM of the rail is with the agency, the agency is happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, and he had come all the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was there a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the cut, bro, like, if you don't know how less needs looks, you would have no idea what less need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I look over the camera and I was like, Nick, that's less need, but oh, okay, noticing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Jake said to be fair to drive for him, I mean, still like, still impressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Jake said laser letter later on was 4.49 I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that feels right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just, you know, talking to him.
40:24
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a McCuy, lemon fan, you know, we've done the prospect of the week episode on our him, that's going to become readily available for everyone, like the truncated
40:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about him at Nazim, but he is just a player that this team, if he were to be drafted by the same, he could just open up things offensively in so many different ways.
40:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell you a player that has completely, from, from you being at the senior bulletin now, Magical, Jacobi Lane is going to be good in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is, he's going to be good in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has burned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has burned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, frame, whatever it is you don't like about him, the boy good, the boy is a good football player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got good take.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And every time he gets out there on the field, he looks good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he looked good at the combine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's just a strong, tall, big man, just a big dude, you know, big is.
41:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So like his frame is so weird because he's right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like so tall like he's taller than TJ Hushman's idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, who was who was at At the pro day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He went to USC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just so cool seeing him coaching up mentoring Jacobi Lane mentoring My Kyle Lemon Caleb Williams was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was it was a cool experience, but he was taller than TJ Hushman's idea and
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[SPEAKER_01]: but like his frame is so slender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like he has huge mits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's mits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's huge hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he just screams like a, you know, Kevin thinks that Caleb is going to ensure that the bear is draft him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to round round two, round three and that does he play with Caleb to the other?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it would just make so much sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're a McCuylamant fan, I do think yesterday helped him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, with with the 40 that he got an even quote unquote, how he acted at the scrum with all that nonsense, um, it's just going to be interesting and so fascinated to see where he goes in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yo, damn, the friend is not Berlin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come by, right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like down.
42:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Follow me, bro.
42:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Wherever you go, I will, I will be there.
42:46
[SPEAKER_01]: It's that baby face.
42:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what freaking the Kobe lane has a huge baby face.
42:53
[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny.
42:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Look because he's like easy use like you look at it, but then he got this little face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was cool man.
43:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they go work and I'm interested to see where McCy lemon ends up man.
43:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Is he going to end up like these where I receive as we see every year they come out just like him that or Uber productive
43:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Got great tape, all this stuff, but the vegetables are like, yeah, and then they end up going to a good as team.
43:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine if you went to the Rams?
43:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Not even at, would it pick 13?
43:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Third to, but whatever you went to the Rams like with the second first round, I'll tell you.
43:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm fighting, I'm fighting Toronto Airlines.
43:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I am, bro.
43:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Because listen, I'll tell you this, if they pass on him at eight, which they may.
43:50
[SPEAKER_01]: If you were to fall to like, and I told this to Kevin, if you were to fall to like 27, 28, I'm calling the teams to see if I can move back up
44:00
[SPEAKER_01]: like the New York Giants did last year to get Jackson Dart to draft McCuy limit.
44:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm not going to give him a future future first round pick for the end.
44:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we also talk about the deal that the Giants were able to do with, uh, no, within the Texans.
44:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't Texas.
44:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So the Texas to move up to get Jackson Dart was so, I get, I guess it chart-wise it made sense, but I was like, that's a steal of a deal.
44:30
[SPEAKER_01]: like that, like the Saints won't get deals like that.
44:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, no, no.
44:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was looking at, like, just some, just a drama chart and stuff like that.
44:39
[SPEAKER_00]: For us to move from 42 to like 31, 32.
44:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not bad at all, like it should not be bad, you know, it should cause like be turned forth to forth something like that, like it shouldn't cause much, um, now once you start moving into like the 20s, you know, cause they're going up, but, you know, if it's not for a quarterback,
45:06
[SPEAKER_00]: that decreases it a little bit.
45:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And it also depends on what the draft looks like.
45:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
45:12
[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of the drafts where a lot of players are kind of grouped together from the 20s down to the 50s.
45:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they all just kind of end this big cloud and it's just pick your poison.
45:25
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you like?
45:25
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you prefer?
45:27
[SPEAKER_00]: For Peter Woods, for Cooper, you just like, what are you like?
45:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what do you want?
45:32
[SPEAKER_00]: All those pairs are going to be there in that cup.
45:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be interesting if teams, you see teams moving around.
45:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And the things that they get looked to the happy, you know, whether that's Chris Bell, you know, Chris Bell, you know, sitting there, late first round, you want to go up and get him.
45:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the care because you just know come day two in the second round.
45:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And people like to say, oh, just wait.
45:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And well, I agree, like, I'm not trying to trade a bunch of pigs, but people like man, you know, just sit there for it too.
46:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And you'll be able to get a good wine receiver.
46:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be wine receivers now.
46:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, man, but I've seen too many years of that where it's like, yeah, we're going to just sit there and say, and then come day two, they just, it's coming off the board and they won't look at it.
46:18
[SPEAKER_01]: or you end up like what happened last year what, you know, this is what the third round about the vines training from the things for Isaac's test law.
46:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Test law, exactly.
46:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I kind of understand why Mickey does get the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
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[SPEAKER_00]: future first and all these future picks.
46:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially if it's 2027, you know, because everybody just trying to load up.
46:46
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, not for that.
46:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That draft will be a movie, bro.
46:51
[SPEAKER_01]: A movie.
46:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to ask you, and I'm not going to give too much away on this because we, it's, it's patron information, but just on the sense of McCoy lemon, Jordan Tyson, take.
47:05
[SPEAKER_01]: take lemons, size equation out of it, take Tyson's injury history out of it.
47:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think?
47:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Not for you as wolf.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think the Saints feel fits their offense better?
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can question.
47:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think of my go Tyson.
47:30
[SPEAKER_00]: think I'm a good Tyson, I don't know who I think they would, I just think they would be Tyson as more of a traditional, yeah, why receiver, that they could fit, you know.
47:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's, I don't know man, like, God damn, you just watched a tape, no, well, I'm like watched a tape, and it's no not going to Tyson, I think he guys, he got, like, he is really good at doing.
47:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to draft him.
47:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But man, I do think they would probably mean Tyson just purely on like a fit.
48:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I could be wrong.
48:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
48:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And like I don't really know what we're killing is looking for.
48:06
[SPEAKER_00]: But my gut tells me Tyson would fit that archetype more than my kind of limit would.
48:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so just going back to last year.
48:19
[SPEAKER_01]: based off the two hour receivers that we know and reported that, you know, if, if Tech McMillan had been there at nine, instead of, you know, with Kelvin Banks, Tech would have been the pick, right?
48:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:33
[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to drive Isaac Tasselau in the third round.
48:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not trying to be a size merchant, but just strictly going based off size, I would tend to lean, I think they would lean towards Jordan Tyson.
48:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
48:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing I wanted to add as we kind of just wrap this up and everything is just that I can't understate how crucial this draft is for the New Orleans saves because we talked about the beginning of this podcast episode, you know, changing the culture, you know, changing that identity of the team, winning culture.
49:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He signed HN, Ellis, David Edwards, traded for a punter.
49:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't hit the news that they re-sign, Dillon and Ray Dunn's who saw that was like, oh, something happened with the one?
49:29
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
49:31
[SPEAKER_01]: In terms of even if not a good depth sign in, it goes weird, it was a two-year deal, but whatever.
49:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But you had that on one hand, you have to be able to,
49:43
[SPEAKER_01]: add more young good players on the team for this rebuild to continue to head in the right direction because Yes, and I'm not trying to put this out there that they're going to, but if they like falter on this drive class, boy, bro, like that, they're like a such a critical junk.
50:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they've had so many bad dreams prior to last year.
50:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, we keep talking about how they're going to have so much cash space next year.
50:13
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I have to buy it a pay because they haven't drafted anybody worth the damn.
50:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
50:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
50:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a different occurs like, yeah, we're going to have their cash space, but you like, you got to fill it with actual good players.
50:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
50:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's hard to do in for agency as we see, you know, how just how quick players fly off the board for agency.
50:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so.
50:35
[SPEAKER_00]: This draft is crucial, but like, they got to be able to walk away from this draft with a couple of starters.
50:44
[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of starters, key contributors, will it be as good as last year?
50:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but they got what they got, apex, like, thank you, thank you for all that.
50:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Ain't no way, they kept it, they kept it last year, they kept it last year, they felt like unbelievable.
51:03
[SPEAKER_00]: That's unbelievable, they kept all of them, they ain't keeping all of them, they ain't keeping all of them.
51:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Ain't no way, fool me once, came with you, no, bro.
51:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, and I think you've seen it, and listen, we've talked about this as the season clothes in terms of what the, like, are the things going to be cautious of agency, like,
51:29
[SPEAKER_01]: probably at the behest of Kellin has been on like, in terms of conscious, in terms of the rebuild or overdrive, I would say it's closer to the overdrive, but it still done very cautiously.
51:42
[SPEAKER_01]: None of the contracts have void or ghost years.
51:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the only contract that you can maybe look at, I'm gonna be like, oh, it's probably the H&Cron track just because of, you know, what he got,
51:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man, like you want to come home, like I don't think you, you mess with that.
52:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But Jake brought up a good point.
52:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I think of the same to have three tight ends on the roster, assuming in joke who comes, I don't think women is as good of a fit.
52:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That for a patiently, it's going to medically make a lot of sense.
52:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if they're going
52:24
[SPEAKER_01]: which makes sense.
52:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Jackson, they have to add more young talent to fill the void of the loss of the vets otherwise depth is going to be an even bigger issue.
52:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
52:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you just got to get to the point where it won't be like,
52:41
[SPEAKER_00]: the commanders like they did with the draft of J. Davis and he just signed a bunch of these like old vets with all hit the rough to support always and it hit that first year like with J. Davis and hit they went all the way to the energy championship but it was like the next year it just crumbled you know I'm saying because kind of bunch of old hits man and now you say like a bunch of old vets and now you're going to get the emotional letter more he already out the dough he on the street you know I'm saying on the street
53:10
[SPEAKER_00]: You know a bunch of players like that, you know, if I'm in the hall these guys, so it's like, you They're doing the same to actually doing what I wanted them to do is like be like smart aggressive, you know, saying target aggression, cold get players and, you know, in the 20s, mid 20s, late 20s, you know,
53:29
[SPEAKER_00]: if you want to supplement get one or two 30 plus your guys then you're coming to give you a spark fine fine but just be smart about it you know what I'm saying and I think that's the approach they take and we can't join it's like yes you're up to have you back yeah you know but like we're not about to go all in with you know thirty seven year old it's a bit you know what you're not about to do that which is smart like this is part way to approach it is it is um
53:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else we wanted to kind of hit on.
54:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin said it's seeing him on the field, do was moving like a gazelle.
54:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming he's talking about, I don't know if you're talking about lemon or lame.
54:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, lame doesn't move like a gazelle.
54:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at gazelle and gazelle.
54:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anything else you want to hit on from this week?
54:21
[SPEAKER_00]: No, man, let's sit.
54:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, shout out to y'all for going to USC,
54:28
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we out shit.
54:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I just figured that a funny interaction happened.
54:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So after we went to, as we went to UC Pro Day, me and Kevin went to Hawkins house burgers best burger I've ever had.
54:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I need a bra.
54:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so tired.
54:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, talk about this shit.
54:44
[SPEAKER_00]: For us.
54:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, captain, burger, bra.
54:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, it is.
54:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And the funny the funny part is like you go there and it's it's called the house of burgers and it literally is a house right like there's no where to sit it's window you go in order yes there's a pickup window
55:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, we go, I would have my burger, burger fries, cool late, Kevin Orders, like just this one, trotty of burger that had less, I saw the picture burned on my parchment, they're strawberry and hot, like when he said he was an ordered, I was like, are you sure?
55:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was in fat saving him, I was just like, are you okay?
55:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So like we're waiting, it's like a 20, 30 minute wait to get your food.
55:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And she doesn't think it walks up to us.
55:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Sat, like, sagging heavy, rolling like the biggest blunt, like just like, just like, like, looking at rolling, we was just like overflowing that shit.
55:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes, what party?
55:50
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
55:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, it took me a while because like Kevin had the shirt on and I had the polo on and I was like, oh, oh, I was like, yeah, it's a podcast bro.
56:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about the saints.
56:05
[SPEAKER_01]: The saints.
56:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
56:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, brother, the football team.
56:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I did.
56:16
[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.
56:18
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we're at just two.
56:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin said, sat tight shit and then walked off into the void.
56:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Tight shit.
56:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much.
56:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But that was our day.
56:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It was hot as shit yesterday.
56:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it was fun to be out there.
56:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Either hit up the Ohio State Pro Day or the Arizona State Pro Day, but they have a shoe Pro Day on a 23rd.
56:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, and can I get out there?
56:57
[SPEAKER_00]: 23rd is a Monday.
56:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's tough.
57:00
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a tough day.
57:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, you know, laying out there with my to do his first pick on a week.
57:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to watch what we ever see was not smile.
57:09
[SPEAKER_00]: But my be there.
57:10
[SPEAKER_00]: My be there.
57:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They're corner.
57:11
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about it this weekend.
57:16
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
57:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But just we have 72 concurrent viewers, 309 views.
57:23
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57:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas whether you're an old like a OG listener or newer listener, viewer, whatever, as, and this is, I go back to this thing where like this notion that we, like we love to
57:46
[SPEAKER_01]: something that we enjoyed, like, people don't know how to run a business.
57:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So as, like, just the hope alone, not saying that has nothing to do with us, because we, like, we put our fucking, our work in as well, but that hope alone, like, the amount of patriots we've gotten this last, you know, two weeks, two and a half weeks, like, when the censor doing well or proceeded to be doing well, like, people like, you know what?
58:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me support these niggas, let me take it.
58:11
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58:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And we just keep, we just don't keep it rolling, man, like we'll see what happens.
58:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, I think there might be some, I know that the Saints has to think up their sleeve that they potentially want to do.
58:39
[SPEAKER_01]: happens or not.
58:40
[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll keep an eye out on that.
58:41
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back this weekend on Sunday morning for the prospect of the week episode for Montsour de Lane, quarterback or defensive back LSU.
58:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And then next week, we'll be back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At that point, next week, we'll be back at something like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back for sure with one episode next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if anything happens, thanks for related trade, free agency, what have you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got y'all covered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate y'all.